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September 20th, 2013
01:13 AM ET

The Pope's message

Pope Francis is surprising some, but not others with his first in-depth interview. The Pope saying the church he leads must end its obsession with abortion, contraception and homosexuality or risk falling like a "house of cards." Andrew Sullivan shares his very personal feelings about the Pope's message. Father Thomas Reese, senior analyst for the National Catholic Reporter joins the discussion.
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