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July 17th, 2013
12:38 AM ET

Crump: Juror did not understand Trayvon Martin

Martin family attorney Benjamin Crump reacts to juror B37's comments that race was not a factor in their verdict.

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  1. DaveinIL

    Understanding TM had no bearing on whether the evidence showed that GZ acted in self defense. Inless you somehow believe that TM was not beating on GZ and all the physical evidence mas manufactured by the police.

    July 29, 2013 at 6:38 pm |
  2. al m.

    The attempts to characterize this tragic incident as an essentially racist one are misguided.
    It is only a matter of logic and common sense to "profile" an African-American teenager walking around the neighborhood at night if the majority of criminal acts in that neighborhood have been committed by perpetrators who fit that "profile."
    In order to eliminate the tendency to suspect these young men, we have to find ways to cut down on criminal behavior by young black men. If I learned that Asian-looking old men in business suits had been breaking into homes in my area, I would be suspicious of any Asian-looking old man in a business suit who might be walking around the neighborhood. Profiling purely on the basis of race is wrong, but profiling on the basis of descriptions of past perpetrators is inevitable and sensible.

    I also believe, however, that it was very unwise for Mr. Zimmerman to be "patrolling" the neighborhood with a gun without a clearly recognizable uniform, including a shirt, cap and badge, and without solid training as to the limitations and methods of his interactions with suspicious individuals. Signs should have been posted stating that a "neighborhood-watch person" was present in the area.

    The unfortunate interaction that fateful night, between Trayvon Martin and George Zimmerman, each suspicious of the other, produced a very sad tragedy, and I am extremely sorry for the Martin family's loss. It is certainly also a devestating event for Mr. Zimmerman and an upsetting and difficult one for the nation.

    July 24, 2013 at 6:38 pm |
    • Alex

      An interesting comment. Why would patrolling in a "recognizable uniform" be any better? I suppose that anyone who wishes to can pick up something that looks like a "recognizable uniform" – ask the Afghan National Army (and our troops) whether someone wearing even a "recognizable friendly uniform" is by default trustworthy.

      On a different issue, the profiling issue has been repeatedly brought up, but I'll raise the question of whether you can accurately distinguish the color of the skin of someone in the dark wearing a hoodie. I'll bet I wouldn't be able to and that I too would be concerned about such an individual walking through my neighborhood. I know that I always feel unsafe when visiting "the big city" (I grew up in one, had my run ins with the locally most "troublesome" minority – stereotypes exist for a reason – and am happy to say I get to live in small town USA nowadays).

      July 25, 2013 at 3:58 pm |
    • Sean

      You were pretty logical up until you mentioned patrolling with a gun and wearing a uniform. Maybe you missed all this at the trail, but Zimmerman was not out on patrol. He was in his truck going to Target when he saw someone suspicious. The fact that he was legally carrying a gun and not wearing a uniform are complete non-sequiturs.

      August 12, 2013 at 4:10 pm |
  3. Chris H

    It dosent matter if George was rite or wrong thank the people who say we can't have gun control.. that would mean taking away are 2nd amendment rights to bear arms to protect ourself. which way do you want it?

    July 23, 2013 at 7:15 am |
  4. Vic

    Where are Trayvon's friends, teachers, and other folks besides his parents and thier lawyers. It makes me wonder why they were not asked to speak at the trial. I am not saying Trayvon was a bad kid but where are his friends now and why are they not speaking out? In my opinion the state did not want them because of what would have came out in the trial. And I still do not understand why Trayvon did not run home....there is no way GZ would have caught him. By the time GZ got out of his vehicle Trayvon would have been home (100 yards from his home). Finally, where is Trayvon's step-mother who took care of him for about 9 years?

    July 19, 2013 at 8:46 am |
    • Rebecca

      They could not bring that information into the trial without allowing the bad information about Trayvon to be entered as well. Smart decision. Trayvon had a history of trouble and it would have been brought in, so better to leave it out hoping for some identification with a 17 year old "child." Either way, they could not take the risk of having info about "who Trayvon really was" show up.

      July 28, 2013 at 1:01 am |
  5. Christine

    A sad day when a child cannot go to the store for a drink and candy. Bottom line: Trayvon went to the store and never came home and George Zimmerman in responsible for that. If George Zimmerman had never been armed, never followed Trayvon and never approached Trayvon, Trayvon would not have died. My sympathy to the Trayvon's family.

    July 18, 2013 at 11:39 pm |
    • Rick

      If GZ had not been armed he'd probably the one dead since TM was bashing his head on the concrete. I love all the people saying "If"... this trial is over and done. agree with the verdict or disagree it doesn't matter. they had their day in court and it went Mr. Zimmerman's way. Sadly enough a life was lost and we'll never know the true story.

      July 20, 2013 at 11:41 am |
    • Rebecca

      "a sad day when a child cannot go to the store for candy." Cornuts.

      July 28, 2013 at 1:07 am |
  6. george sanchez jr

    It's my opinion that if T. Martin had not confronted zimmerman and just continured to go home that there would not have been a fight. As an teacher , I would like to know if T. Martins parents were providing private counseling for Trayvon because I understand that he had been suspended from school for smoking Marijuana. What had the parents done to break him of the drug habit. Wm Glasser the writer of Reality and Choice Therapy states that persons that are unsuccessful in full filling their needs to Love, and to be loved and who do not feel worthy of themselves deny the world around them and deny the rules of society and could use counseling therapy.

    July 18, 2013 at 2:08 pm |
  7. Millie Sosa

    Crump says that jury did not understand Trayvon. No, but his parents did and they knew he was a troubled child and that he was in trouble in Miami. Shame on them for putting this blame on George. Trayvon brought this on by himself and his actions. We MUST be able to defend ourselves. George had no other alternative ~ no one wanted to get involved. It is very sad, but putting all this blame on George is the real tragedy.

    July 17, 2013 at 4:04 pm |
    • Fred

      George had no other alternative? How about not following someone who is not committing a crime. Zimmerman was the only one of the two with a prior arrest and Trayvon is the bad guy? Southern Justice at it's best!

      July 18, 2013 at 1:59 pm |
      • jason

        if the officer had done his job and actually reported the stolen items FOUND IN TRAYVONS backpack, Trayvon would most likely be in a juvenile facility and not have been out casing homes, i mean buying candy and tea for his little brother (who is in fact no relation to him whatsoever).

        July 26, 2013 at 1:27 pm |
  8. Sam Majmudar

    Just provide guns to everyone to protect from everyone.
    The gun was available, mr. Zimmerman panicked and rest is ....let everybody have a gun so we can protect us from everybody. Let us assume we are always in a sound state of mind when comes to the use of gun!!!!

    July 17, 2013 at 1:50 pm |
  9. Elizabeth Larson

    I find it inappropriate for people to judge the juror for saying "They" when referring to Treyvon and Rachel when they were having a conversation. Not to blame Anderson, but when he asked the question, he referred to them as they. Sometimes I think we are over sensitive to some things. She was about how they related to each other and the language that they use. Their language was not something she connected to and some things she had never heard before. She did speak of their environment. I still think she could use the word their. She was not talking about the black culture, she was talking about Treyvon and Rachel. Will you please address this on one of your shows?

    Thanks,
    Elizabeth

    July 17, 2013 at 10:52 am |
  10. Fabian Falconett

    G. Zimmerman did not identified himself as a neighborhood watch person and should had told Martin he was armed and inquire why he was there, concerned about strangers in the area, juror b37 also said it was extremely late, wrong it was 7:15 pm, also I don't know how long it takes for blood to dry up, but by looking at the trails of the dried blood in back of head, your head must be facing down, and by looking at the cuts the do not look like threatening, the prosecution did a poor job, but G. Zimmerman inconsistencies were not contested.

    July 17, 2013 at 3:04 am |
    • Elizabeth H

      The blood trailed downward – that happened after he stood up. Trayvon did not give GZ a chance to say anything he just came at him punching, surprising GZ, knocking him to the ground, straddling him and punching without cause. GZ screamed for help, but no one wanted to tackle the big scary guy wearing a hoodie!!! I would have reacted the same way GZ did. Trayvon had his weapons, his fist and the hard sidewalk and acted violantly to stop GZ, because he was up to no good and was caught looking into people's homes, while pretending to just be walking home. Yeah – right verdict, smart jury.

      July 18, 2013 at 6:25 pm |
      • Chris

        What a story. Ive seen michael bay movies with more believable plots. What is harder to believe, the truth, or that a scrawny kid with no martial arts training beat up the adult man that did have training? That a side walk has ever been used to murder anyone ever? Or that the vigilante with prior runins with the law didn't profile martin, stalk him, corner him, and pick a fight?

        July 19, 2013 at 4:00 am |
        • cheri

          That "scrawny kid" was 6'1 and 175lbs. And yes Chris, apparently it is hard to believe the truth.

          July 24, 2013 at 4:42 pm |
          • GeorgeB

            According to the autopsy report, Martin was 5'11" and 158 lbs,which still doesn't seem scrawny to me.

            August 5, 2013 at 9:37 pm |
  11. Jacob P.

    So, Ben Crump wanted the juror to look past the evidence and turn to emotion to come to a different conclusion. Fortunately, that is not how are justice system works and thank God she did not succumb to emotion.

    July 17, 2013 at 1:01 am |
    • Brandon

      Yes, basically. He knew he couldn't win the case based on the evidence. Crump comes off like the racist here.

      August 7, 2013 at 6:39 pm |

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