June 23rd, 2011
07:07 PM ET

AC360 Preview: Attorney explains Cindy Anthony testimony about chloroform

Editor’s note: Tune in to AC360° Thursday beginning at 10pm ET to watch Anderson Cooper’s interview with Mark Lippman.

(CNN) – An attorney for Casey Anthony’s parents rejected the suggestion Thursday that Cindy Anthony’s testimony in court contradicted earlier statements she’d made to authorities about Internet searches done on the Anthony family’s computer. And attorney Mark Lippman added that Cindy Anthony’s memory about the Web searching had become sharper in recent years because of a change in the medications she is taking for stress.

Testimony regarding Internet searches for chloroform, alcohol, and various key words relating to different types of bodily injury has been presented by the prosecution in Casey Anthony’s closely-watched murder trial – apparently in an effort to demonstrate that Casey Anthony premeditated the murder of her 2-year-old daughter Caylee.

But in testimony Thursday, Casey Anthony’s mother, Cindy, told the jury that she – not Casey – had done some of the Web searching used as evidence in the case against her daughter.

Related: I searched for chloroform on computer, Cindy Anthony testifies

“It does seem what she is saying now on the stand differs from what she told authorities a while back,” CNN’s Anderson Cooper said to Anthony family attorney Mark Lippman in an interview set to air Thursday on AC360°.

“Not necessarily,” responded Lippman, “if you listen to the questions very, very carefully that were asked and her answers.”

Lippman added that Cindy Anthony testified Thursday about searching online for information on chloroform, chlorophyll, and head injuries.

Asked by Cooper whether Cindy Anthony’s memory has changed, Lippman explained that his client’s memory has sharpened because of a change in the medications she has been taking to cope with stress.

“The medication she was originally under caused her to be lethargic, tired – just, in general, slower. And now they’ve changed the medication,” explained Lippman. “And her doctors have prescribed something that doesn’t affect her has much - doesn’t affect her memory or her ability to interact and be cognitive with any questions that are asked.”

Specifically asked by Cooper if Cindy Anthony’s memory has become sharper, Lippman responded, “In general, over time, memory does degrade but her memory has become sharper than what it was in 2009 because the medication has changed.”

In the interview, Lippman also went to great lengths to clarify remarks he made Wednesday on the record but off-camera to CNN’s Gary Tuchman.

Related: Parents don't believe Anthony's innocent, attorney says

Tune in to AC360° beginning at 10pm ET Thursday to watch more of the Lippman interview.

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  1. Melissa from Texas

    Also whats next??? Is Cindy going to toss George under the bus like her lying daughter?? Daughter like mother !

    June 24, 2011 at 12:08 am |
  2. Melissa from Texas

    Ive watched this case from the start, its pretty sad. A beautiful child killed. My opinions have changed several times for Cindy, it went from thinking she was a nut case like her daughter to after watching her first testimony and breaking down, i felt sorry for her. I actually thought she finally realized her daughter was a murderer, Then after watching her today.. it went back to my first opinion. I am a grandmother, very close to my grandchild. Sitting back watching Casey in court and her smirk reactions just really tear my skin. I dont know how her father hasnt smacked her face infront of the world. Any mother that wasnt guilty wouldnt be sitting there so calm and relaxed in court. This whole case is strange. But I definately think they need to call her on her claims and get her on purgery on the stand. Its funny she can remember everything else, but cant exactly remember this or that all of a sudden or she might have been at home.

    June 24, 2011 at 12:06 am |
  3. contessa

    Well, I must say it is no big surprise to hear that Cindy Anthony couldn't keep her stories straight either! As the old saying goes: The apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Casey lived in this household for her entire lifetime, until the last month or so before Caylee was killed!! We heard all kinds of stories from Cindy AND George when they were "looking" for little Caylee! It seems sooooo convenient to blame the "drugs" Cindy was taking back then!! Any person knows that powerful drugs such as valium, may indeed produce the inability to remember things, but it is VERY RARE for a person, after (3) years, to all of a sudden remember what was lost in memory! I could see completely different body language displayed by Cindy, today!! She definitely is trying to save her daughter from death!! Plain and Simple!! SOOOOO you LIE to do so, right??? I hope Cindy and George realize the general public are not as dumb as they might think. AND their attorney should also know that!! WE now see that neither of them are credible either. I would imagine in the next few days, brother Lee, will be back on the stand for more testimony, and he will also show us that he is another part of the dysfunctional family!! LIES, LIES, and more LIES!! This is how this family MUST function!
    God bless the soul of innocent little Caylee Anthony!! She never had the chance to live a normal life from the day she was born. At the very least she won't have to "learn" to be an expert LIAR! There are definitely no lies in Heaven!!

    June 23, 2011 at 11:57 pm |
  4. Gary

    I still want to know why George, an experienced retired detective would NOT immediately contact the authorities upon the smell of what he recognized as a dead body? This makes no sense! Was he trying to distance himelf from the investigation and if so, why? Then, he leaves and goes to work knowing the car has that "dead body" odor and it's his wife, Cindy who ends up calling 911. George not calling the local authorities when he smelled an odor that was very familiar to him as decompostion is incomprehensible. Another think I've wondered is with all of the area external cameras at gas stations, grocery stores, did any of the lead detectives inquire INITIALLY whether there was live camera footage of the time when Casey dropped off the car? Certainly if a camera existed it would have shown Casey and whether she was alone.

    June 23, 2011 at 11:43 pm |
  5. Lisa

    One other thing, I would bet my life the jurior's didn't buy her lies.people can see right thur her.so keep on telling it like it is Cindy and maybe you will end up in jail with that thing you call a daughter....................................

    June 23, 2011 at 11:39 pm |
  6. Michael

    Maybe Cindy's lawyer should reminder her of the definition of
    Perjury (noun) 1. Liar, Liar, pants on fire!

    June 23, 2011 at 11:34 pm |
  7. JW

    I would really like to know why Cindy Anthony do a computer search for how bamboo could affect a dog....there was no reason for her to research chlorophyll or chloraform, why would she search for a chemical before searching for the plant that she thought was poisoning the animal?? And if you noticed she slipped in the fact that sometimes she would come in and ask Casey if she could use the computer for a few minutes when Casey was on it....that was a surefire way to cover up the fact that she did not have an MySpace account at that time and her daughter did.....the chloraform searches were after or during some Myspace time! She was willing to lie to protect her daughter from the death penalty biut when asked if she did the search for HOW TO MAKE CHLORAFORM....she said that she did not look that up....perjury yes, taking all the heat...noway!! LIe just enought to stop lethal injection! I have followed this case from the very beginning and honestly...I don't know who to believe, I wonder if anyone really knows the truth about anything....very sad family.

    June 23, 2011 at 11:07 pm |
  8. dk

    Just this week on the view Barbara Walters and Joy were discussing how if it were their daughter they would get on the stand and lie for her to save her life. The other anchors disagreed. I wonder if Cindy was watching.

    June 23, 2011 at 10:54 pm |
  9. interesting81

    HOWEVER..Her parents said they would do anything to keep their daughter from getting the death penalty. So if Cindy makes the jury believe she did these searches it could exclude premeditation which would mean no death penalty.

    June 23, 2011 at 10:51 pm |
  10. Mary_Lakeland

    The prosecution needs to subpoena a witness from Cindy's company, and certainly if they could forensically find "tot moms" computer searches, they could check log-in records on Cindy's work PC. Payroll records need to be kept (7) years. I do know she claims they are not accurate, and I am sure that company is real pleased about that “national” announcement.
    Further the prosecution needs to locate the original owner(s) of the car, and subpoena them.
    If the searches were done in the same time frame, and Cindy only admits to some, how can that be?
    If records show there was a typed login and Cindy did not login, that also seems to be a problem.
    If she did not look up "How to make chloroform", and that was the search, why is this credible?
    God, this case has OJ written all over it after today..
    Why isn't anyone asking where she was going for (2) years when she was "working", and where was Caylee?

    June 23, 2011 at 10:36 pm |
  11. Scot from Iowa

    Cindy Anthony's does not believe her daughter is innocent, but her attorney has gone on the record that she does not want her daughter to get the death penalty. To get first degree murder it must show that it was pre-meditated. Moma is taking the hit for her daughter by lying and saying she was on the computer and typing chloroform.. hmmm how did she (Cindy) do this when she at work at the time that it was being typed on the home computer?

    June 23, 2011 at 10:32 pm |
  12. Pat Griffith

    I still think Casey A's folks were involved too.

    June 23, 2011 at 10:30 pm |
  13. Ruth

    Cindy is a nurse by profession and NO nurse would misspell chloroform.

    June 23, 2011 at 10:23 pm |
  14. Tei

    I don't know if Cindy lied or not but it does seem strange that neither side seemed to know that Cindy supposedly did the searches just recently.

    June 23, 2011 at 10:18 pm |
  15. Matt

    I bet Casey sleeps good tonight..

    June 23, 2011 at 10:17 pm |
  16. Tom

    I googled "chlorofil", came back "chlorophyll" and read the entire lengthly wikipedia article...no mention or link to chloroform...I fail to see the connection. Even the mis-spelling resulted in finding the correct spelling. Chloroform was not a recommended possible for the mis-spelled "chlorofil". She's lying..!!

    June 23, 2011 at 10:16 pm |
  17. abby

    Heifer dust. She's lying to protect Casey from the death penalty. Now we know where Casey learned to lie so well.

    June 23, 2011 at 9:55 pm |
  18. Gwenn Freitag

    Casey's parents have been allowed to be in the courtroom which other witnesses have not been able too.. Doesn't give them an advantage knowing where the prosecution and defense are going to alter their testimony if necessary.

    June 23, 2011 at 9:53 pm |
  19. donna

    He probably shouldn't have said that they would do "all they can" to keep her from getting the death penalty.

    June 23, 2011 at 9:51 pm |
  20. Annie Kate

    What Cindy Anthony says about herself doing the searches and why makes sense and it pretty well undermines the state's alleged evidence of premeditation. Before this revelation it was not clear that the computer was a family computer – it sounded like it was a Casey's computer solely and that she was the only one using it. However, a family computer would be used by various members of the family and there would not be much way to tell who did what searches unless the computer was set up to have an individual account for each person and they logged into their own accounts. Will be interesting to see what the prosecution does with this testimony.

    June 23, 2011 at 8:53 pm |
    • William

      I can completely agree with you Annie, except, her employer's time card statements show she was working at the time the searches were conducted. I think Cindy critically damaged her credibility today.

      June 23, 2011 at 10:16 pm |
    • Mary_Lakeland

      The computer had log in's for (2) people, and one was Casey. Cindy said, under oath, she did not log in. Sg=he did not even seem to know what that was about. The forensics originally showed that their was a typed in login.

      You cannot possibly be falling for this. I sure hope the jury is paying close attention.

      June 23, 2011 at 10:40 pm |
    • Corrie

      I don't think it undermines it at all. The key part of the cross-examination was when the prosecution asked specifically "Did you type in the Google search bar, 'HOW TO MAKE CHLOROFORM'", and her reply was NO. She may have mistakenly typed chloroform instead of chlorophyll, but that is ENTIRELY different from someone intentionally typing "How to make chloroform". (No one, and admittedly not Grandma, would type in "How to make chlorophyll"...it doesn't make sense). If someone, on that computer, typed in "How to make chloroform"...and then searched "Chloroform" 84 times, then clearly, it was not a typo. And if it wasn't Grandma, then it was either Casey or Grandpa.

      June 23, 2011 at 11:21 pm |
    • randy

      are you kidding? You don't suppose she is lying on behalf of her daughter do you? her explaination is so far fetched its laughable. Searching the internet for her dogs eating bamboo......pleeeeeezzzzz

      June 23, 2011 at 11:44 pm |
    • June S

      I tried typing chlorophorm: and other misspellings in Google similar to chlorophyl , and one of the choices suggested is "how to make chloroform", I Also recall one of the prosecution's witnesses talking about his software which pulled the history and he said that Google choices not selected by the user can appear in his software results, This really makes sense. Have lectured in plant toxicology, I think I get the drift of what she was trying to find out. No doubt with good legal advice, she only answered the specific question asked during the deposition and did not volunteer other info. Also she might have been on Klonopin, which can cause some brain fog. That is the drug mentioned by the toxicolgy expert, probably because it was available at the home. I don't see a lie in Cindy's testimony, only a big bo bo made during her deposition by the prosecution. Lets all hope no one ever examines our computers like this! To me the story should be on the reliability and interpretation of these forensic software programs, and what big brother could invent about us.

      June 23, 2011 at 11:59 pm |
  21. Danielle Inman-Bellofatto

    Anderson, how's this for democracy? Senator Greg Ball of New York does an interview stating he is voting no on marriage equality. He cites business not being able to discriminate against gays if weddings are made legal. They maybe forced to serve us they way they would any other citizen in this country. Then when he gets a flurry of comments of his facebook page, he immediately removes posts and blocks all those people who's rights he has failed in his duty to protect. Are we not allowed to speak and be heard. He is systematically silencing those who he is suppose to advocate for. PLEASE HELP, ANDERSON!! PLEASE!!!

    June 23, 2011 at 8:39 pm |
  22. Lori

    If we all thought the statement by the Anthony's attorney about them believeing she "was not innocent" was strange, it all makes sense today. KNOWING what she was going to say today, yesterday's statement was a set up to curb public outrage. It was a deliberate attempt to portray that if Cindy doesn't "believe she is innocent", why would she lie on the stand? "Gamesmanship" does not EVEN begin to come close to describing what is going on here.

    June 23, 2011 at 8:12 pm |
    • Joy

      What is your point? To point out people in the legal field and society play games is like pointing out water is wet. What is unique about this case? Do tell....

      June 23, 2011 at 11:58 pm |
  23. Nik in Texas

    Also....Cindy is a nurse–why would she need to "research on Google" alcohol, peroxide, injuries, etc.?? Then she claims they don't have access at her job to internet search sites. Well maybe so, but I am quite sure at a HOSPITAL where she works as a NURSE that they don't need to rely on GOOGLE to look up medical information....she can research on a medical database (assuming her ridiculous story is true, which we all know it is not!)

    June 23, 2011 at 7:48 pm |
    • Chartreuxe

      Agreed. I don't believe her, either. It would seem that she's lying to prevent her daughter getting the death penalty. It's somewhat understandable, I suppose, but I wouldn't lie under oath, not even to save my son.

      June 23, 2011 at 10:35 pm |
    • randy

      Agreed. This family is so sad. Willing to lie for their guilty daughter in spite of the murder of their grandchild. The whole family is disturbing.

      June 23, 2011 at 11:46 pm |
  24. Nik in Texas

    BALONEY!!! Cindy Anthony is just realizing that her psycho duaghter is about to be found guilty of murder and is NOW trying to cover for her! Shameful!! Where's the justice for sweet little Caylee who was discarded in the woods to rot like road kill?!!!!??!!?!!? Simply shameful.

    June 23, 2011 at 7:46 pm |
    • Chris

      Nik, you're not a parent, are you?

      Cindy Anthony has lost a beloved granddaughter. And she realizes that her testimony is liable to send her only daughter to the death penalty. Yes, she's lying; it's obvious. But it's also perfectly obvious that Cindy Anthony is in a spot that NO parent deserves or ever thinks in their worst nightmares of being in - that of sending their child to death.

      If it was YOUR child, would you be able to do that? And don't answer unless you actually HAVE a child, one that you've born, held, raised, cuddled - I've seen too many parents still love their children no matter what said children have done; don't claim YOU would do differently unless you've been in that spot. A child never stops BEING your child, no matter what she does. Having her daughter spend life in prison in punishment is better than a dead daughter; no amount of death penalty will ever bring Caylee back.

      I feel for Cindy, I really do. She & George turned their daughter in; that took courage & caring for Caylee. Now stop screaming because parents are acting like any normal, caring parent would.

      June 23, 2011 at 11:23 pm |
  25. Sheena

    I had been feeling so sorry for Cindy and George. After today's testimony from Cindy, I can see where Casey gets her lying abilities. Cindy is also very skilled as make up as you go, only Cindy can semi qualify her lies. I hope George is ready to be really grilled about his alleged child abuse, because his wife has just set him up for it. George still has my sympathy, but altogether the family is shifty and questionable. Oh, and Cindy, if you had told the truth, it would have been for your DECEASED GRANDDAUGHTER CAYCEE, REMEMBER HER? Casey deserves the death penalty, but she won't get it. And if she did, once Cindy and George went before the court and pleaded for her mercy, (because they are all that's left to stand up for Caylee and they would beg for mercy for her cold blooded murderer), yes the judge would most certainly have granted it. So now what's left, grandparents who supposedly loved Caylee but are not willing to tell the truth in court.

    June 23, 2011 at 7:41 pm |
    • Mary_Lakeland

      You are so right. How in the wide world can anyone protect the person who probably murdered their grand-daughter? Do they even get that a lot of Casey's searches seemed to deal with ending an adult's life?
      If she gets out she will get pregnant again and ruin another little child's life, in my opinion. I would be terrified to have her in my home.
      Wake up and concentrate on Lee and his family for Caylee's sake. Think of that beautiful child when you look at Casey, if you can.

      June 23, 2011 at 11:23 pm |

    what a crock i guess casey did learn to lie from her mama i hope george has more dignity and respect for the memory of caylee if not then dont cry over her anymore cause you really dont care and i hope the state has something in store for the Anthonys liars

    June 23, 2011 at 7:34 pm |
  27. Diane from Boca

    Bloods thicker then water. No I mean chloroform.

    June 23, 2011 at 7:31 pm |