Brewer vetoes Arizona's 'birther' bill: Join the Live Chat
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Tonight on AC360°, Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer, a Republican, has vetoed her nation's first-in-the-nation "birther" bill. And, the ugly offspring of bigotry and birtherism from Southern California.
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Thanks Claire..."Stereotyping is its own form of bigotry and should really be avoided."
Sometimes we need to be reminded.
On the race issue...I don't believe this woman missed the racist symbolism of the email she forwarded. The fact that she found it funny is quite telling of her bias. That being said, not all Republicans are racist. And obviously some Christians are misguided. Stereotyping is its own form of bigotry and should really be avoided.
My gosh, a monkey? That is unforgivable. It doesn't matter how much these conservatives hate his policy. The president is a symbol of America, and deserves respect.
If they don't like Obama's policies or political stances, they can argue against them all they want. They should not try to get attention or rally themselves by degrading his image like that.
There is a limit to how far a joke can go. Most political cartoons, caricatures, and SNL impressions don't cross that line. Davenport's email does, and it is unforgivable.
Cool documentary and very important. Now, on to other monumental examples of how big business (and governments) are destroying the planet (thank you, Japan and your nuclear power mess).
The story of the brown pelican 895 by HBO is wonderful, that so many took concern in life in all forms. What is sad is this pelican and all who were saved return to still oil stained nesting sites.
If i am not wrong, according to the Bible God want us to treat the animals right. Must love the documetary.
Sorry, I meant "far right,"..."The far left of the party has"
Hmmm Must see the documentary 🙂
"I'm not even worried about terrorist as much as i'm about our republicans."
This is really interesting. The far left of the party has, unfortunately, painted the GOP into a very dark picture, by frequently pursuing mean, belittling behavior aimed at and promoting hate toward others. The problem is that the GOP will support this for the sheer benefit of gaining numbers. "Hate" is part of the foundation for terrorism.
I don't understand how these people can keep saying that there is no birth certificate. It HAS been presented and authenticated. And, what could possibly make them think, with all the opposition he had in both parties, that no one could prove the certificate a fraud? Really? If that's the case, why do we have illegal immigrants at all? If it's that easy, why don't they just print up some fake certificates and get legal?
Anyway hope people dont rush to a conclusion that all details written down in his book are lies. He must have done sth very good that received recognition.
Give me a break, how could someone say, that Ms Davenport didn't understand the dept of her statement. SHE DID. And then claim to be a christian in the same breathe. I think the whole GOP way of thinking is racist. I'm not even worried about terrorist as much as i'm about our republicans.
His book is classified as fiction or non-fiction?
Yes, NON-fiction should be exactly that: NOT made up!
My God! It sounds pretty bad. Maybe people believe him so much that no fact check was done.
Exactly Merl, Ohio. It has been shown and accepted.
If this story is true, this guy is horrible! You don't lie about helping kids and providing schools for poor kids like this.
The prerequisition for running for president is to show proof of being born in the U.S. before a canidate can even run. Like all other presidents, this proof of birth was shown before he could run for office, like all other presidents before him. With him being in office, his proof has already been accepted.
If some of the stories and even SCHOOLs are fiction, it is pretty bad. Hope they are not.
I'm disgusted with the remark about her being an "imperfect christian". I'm not a religious person and I would never forward an e-mail like that. I find her apology's hollow and I think she should be fired.
Most racists claim to be "Christians". Most of the segrationist groups of the past were community leaers, christians, and even religious leaders. They were some of your biggest bigots.
Anderson,
This white woman that sent a racist email portraying the President of the United State and of the free world as a Monkey is extremely despicable and trouble. It is despicable for the fact that she claims to be a Christian butlacks the basic Christian belief that all men are created by God. It is troubling for an elected official to habor such deep racist feelings. Her apology is nonsense. She is a matured adult, expected to know better. She should resign whatever position she hold immediately. She should be branded as a racist and barred from holding any public office. This is outrageous to say the least. It is an abuse of "Freedom of Speech". She insulted the Presidency of the United States of America.
Thank you.
I actually kind of wanted the bill to pass and for it to later be contested in front of the supreme court. My hope was that the bill would pass, everyone would learn that Obama is in fact a natural born citizen of this country and the birther nonsense would end. Thinking about it, it probably wouldn't even matter if Obama did provide his long form Birth certificate. The next theory would be that it's a fake, no matter how many officials back the document's authenticity. The birth issue has nothing to do with whether or not he was actually born here. It has to do with his difference. He is the first natural born citizen elected to become president and then bombarded with requests for proof that he's a real citizen. Why didn't all past president's get asked the same thing? Perhaps because they were all of Euro descent and had Euro names??
@Tony, how can you say that? His birth certificate has been shown on numerous occasions on various television stations. Does it need to be on display somewhere so everyone can go see it to prove it's real?
I am very pleased with Gov. Brewer's decision in this matter. Clearly, President Obama was born in Hawaii. Also, given the history of white people in this country, it can't be viewed any other way than racist for such a bill to exist in the first place. If I were John McCain, I'd be concerned that these so-called "conservatives" in America were really voting against Obama's race in 2008 and not for McCain's policies.
Honestly, cant believe Gadhafi is still ok there while NATO is there.
Wow, I can see how relieved all the Obama supporters are that he won't be forced to show something that you know he doesn't have.
I agree the actions of the lady were very wrong. However, could Solidad be any less objective than she was in that story?
😀 Not confident in the European Union? Hmmm Tough!
I don't know what I am more offended by...the email or Christian being used to describe her.
It seems mowdays people can do or say anything they want and expect an apology to make it all okay. 50 yrs from now, Pres. Obama will still be famous and remembered as a great leader. Ms. Davenport on the other hand will not be remembered and if she is, I think racist idiot will be the description.
@Kaytee 10:10 hmmm well, i dont think so. But in the case mentioned, it is true.
The EU wants to send troops? They better not ask us!
to poster john: no, the "key" here is that this woman is a representative of "the people", not an average person who is not in the public eye. that excuse just doesn't fly...
@ Kaytee, "When someone starts off by saying....
I agree with you whole heartedly. Seen it myself.
This is blatantly racist and offensive, and I do not understand how she could not understand. One can have black friends and still be racist.
If it was not intentionally racist, why didn't she depict him as a polar bear
or a grey wolf.
Richard Dawkins would be pleased though.
Circumcision records? I never heard that part of the bill. How does THAT make you a natural born American citizen?
When someone starts off by saying "but I have black friends" they are about to give a pitiful excuse for being racist.
She is only apologizing because she was caught being racist!
OMG! The Christian card? I'm so sick of this mess with people and those who try to excuse racism.
Who has not sent/forwarded an e-mail that may be considered by others in bad taste? Key here is what every person considers to be in what sort of taste.
i keep hearing how she's a christian...if she were truly a christian, she'd have deleted that email, not forwarded it.
Just another "Christian" comment!!! I dislike apologies (actions)it's the actions of a person that count! She is a bigot and she knew exactly what she was doing!
@Dulcie, I agree!
Good evening everyone. I can't believe that email or that "fine Christian" or not, she didn't understand the underlying message. No defense.
Hi Solidad. Hi Everyone. Good evening.
How could she have NOT understood the racism in that picture?
I'm getting *very* tired of these Non-apologic apologies from GOP types. A 'good Christian Lady' would never pass on something so offensive.
The Christian Right needs to come clean.
Evening AC360
Oh jeez! How horrible! That is not a joke! How dare that woman do that!
Happy Monday, everyone. Good for Jan Brewer!!!