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January 24th, 2011
09:43 PM ET

Rep. Bachmann Flunking History: Join the Live Chat

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Congresswoman Michele Bachmann is preparing for a rebuttal to Pres. Obama's State of the Union speech tomorrow night. She'll speak on behalf of the Tea Party caucus. But it's another speech she gave on Friday that has a lot of people talking, where she flubbed the facts on U.S. History. We're Keeping Them Honest. Plus, see why the folks behind the hit TV show "Mad Men" are being added to our 'RidicuList'.

Scroll down to join the live chat during the program. It's your chance to share your thoughts on tonight's headlines. Keep in mind, you have a better chance of having your comment get past our moderators if you follow our rules.

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soundoff (146 Responses)
  1. Steven in Denver

    If a Cooper' hawk is also known as a chicken hawk, maybe they should have Foghorn Leghorn lure it down.

    January 24, 2011 at 10:39 pm |
  2. Heather - Spokane, WA

    That poor hawk, hopefully they will get him out safely!

    January 24, 2011 at 10:38 pm |
  3. Kelly - PA

    Wait, what? no more Mad Men? Why???????

    January 24, 2011 at 10:38 pm |
  4. Jo Ann, Ohio

    @Anne-Marie, "The founding fathers will still be held to the standard of leaders no matter what century they were in."

    I disagree. The "standards" of the past are not the same as those of today. If that were true, women would have had the right to vote a long time ago and children would have also had rights.

    We cannot pretend to know what it was like back in the day of our founders so it is not fair to judge them by our 21st century standards.

    January 24, 2011 at 10:37 pm |
  5. lisal -canada

    that driving into oncoming traffic thing ... wow

    January 24, 2011 at 10:37 pm |
  6. lisal -canada

    perhaps rahm can do a "write-in" campaign ??

    January 24, 2011 at 10:36 pm |
  7. Gloria, Brooklyn, NY

    They are not taking that death penalty off the table.

    January 24, 2011 at 10:36 pm |
  8. BettyAnn, Nacogdoches,TX

    Call me Texan but sometimes the death penalty is not so bad when you compare to the crime.

    January 24, 2011 at 10:35 pm |
  9. Emily

    I can't see that trial staying in Arizona

    January 24, 2011 at 10:35 pm |
  10. CHARLIE

    @ Cindy.
    Even if that was how it was used they have forgotten that that was also the basis of millions of Irish Amercians being US citizens.
    (including my cousins and the Kennesy's ancestors)

    January 24, 2011 at 10:35 pm |
  11. Kaytee

    Aaron – Over all, Bachmann fails to recognize in her airbrushed speech that slavery, racism, sexism, ethnocentrism, etc. has been a part of our country from its founding to this very day.
    Let us not sugarcoat our history.

    Great point Aaron.

    January 24, 2011 at 10:35 pm |
  12. Jo Ann, Ohio

    @Emily, "I think that there are many who do care what Michele Bachmann has to say as she is a Congresswoman."

    Maybe I should have said no "sane" people care about what she says. I put her in the same category as Rep. Steve Cohen.

    January 24, 2011 at 10:33 pm |
  13. Mike, formerly from Syracuse

    I don't see why insanity should give someone a pass.

    January 24, 2011 at 10:33 pm |
  14. Heather - Spokane, WA

    Loughner will not be able to plea insanity and if he does, he and his lawyer will have a very hard time proving it due to the letters he wrote before the shooting saying that he was going to kill her

    January 24, 2011 at 10:33 pm |
  15. Megan Dresslar - Shoreline, WA

    I hope that Jared Loughner will stay in jail forever, I have heard Jared is not guilty, No, He will be found guilty shooting people to die.

    January 24, 2011 at 10:33 pm |
  16. Cindy

    Perhaps the insanity plea is outdated, if in fact it is, is because no one gives attention to the insane.

    January 24, 2011 at 10:33 pm |
  17. Anne-Marie

    @Joann
    The founding fathers will still be held to the standard of leaders no matter what century they were in. It doesn't make it ok and that is an excuse. And to the later comment: why are we not holding our politicians today to a higher standard. It doesn't make it ok that they all do it.

    January 24, 2011 at 10:32 pm |
  18. CHARLIE

    @ Ken Thanks.
    That was my recollection also, but I did not have the figures to hand.
    If true it would be an outrageous lie.
    Andersson Could you pin that down please.

    January 24, 2011 at 10:32 pm |
  19. Emily

    How many voters actually do research into what the politicians who are running say?
    With such easy access to information today, seems that people are doing less & less of it.

    January 24, 2011 at 10:31 pm |
  20. BettyAnn, Nacogdoches,TX

    Loughner is a nut job. Yep, he creeps me out.

    January 24, 2011 at 10:31 pm |
  21. BettyAnn, Nacogdoches,TX

    Great report about Gifford. God bless her.

    January 24, 2011 at 10:31 pm |
  22. Paula, Colorado

    Loughner's behavior is eerie.

    January 24, 2011 at 10:30 pm |
  23. Aaron

    @BettyAnn:

    Amen!

    January 24, 2011 at 10:29 pm |
  24. CHARLIE

    @ Matt
    That is the same logic that SCOTUS uses to-day to allow the wealthy to keep political control. SCOTUS contends that money is equivalent to speech and corporations are equivalent to people.
    That is patent nonsense but they are afraid the masses would disrupt things.

    January 24, 2011 at 10:29 pm |
  25. Cindy

    @Ken
    Susan Molinari was talking about unemployment and Paul was talking about jobs. They are really both talking about the same thing even if the numbers are not exactly correct.

    January 24, 2011 at 10:28 pm |
  26. Pat

    Anderson,

    Ms. Molanari is an ex politician for a reason-if she thinks the party in control is going to create jobs by competing with the countries that make everything now for the United States, she better get her head of the sand. People in this country won't and should not have to work for a bag of rice or peanuts either. There is no competing with low wages, and big profits.

    January 24, 2011 at 10:28 pm |
  27. Bev

    Shrivell should be indicted for Stalking and Slander.

    January 24, 2011 at 10:28 pm |
  28. BettyAnn, Nacogdoches,TX

    Isn't it sad when people become comsumed and obsessed with hate? What a waste.

    January 24, 2011 at 10:28 pm |
  29. Marie

    I think that if a person has the sanity to commit a crime, they have the sanity to pay for that crime in the same degree. There should NOT be a seperate legal code for people less sane than others. It is my opinion after a great deal of thought. The insanity plea is outdated. We need a deterrant from crime that works for all people.

    January 24, 2011 at 10:28 pm |
  30. Heather - Spokane, WA

    I will never understand the insanity of Andrew Shirvall

    January 24, 2011 at 10:28 pm |
  31. Aaron

    Nate, you are right. There requires a balance... which I read into your comments.
    We must understand the difference between the necessity of guns back in 1776 verses now.
    Undoubtedly though, we must admit, that "history repeats itself." And boy does it!

    January 24, 2011 at 10:27 pm |
  32. CHARLIE

    @ Linda
    But it is evidence of the founding father's lack of faith in democracy.
    To-days version of that is the SCOTUS contention that money is equivalent to speech. Thus weighting citizens political voice according to their weealth, rather than their skin color.

    January 24, 2011 at 10:25 pm |
  33. Gloria, Brooklyn, NY

    I am all for 1st amendment, but when it comes to the point of someone calling some else all out of their names, something is wrong with that. One is certainly not being very polite.

    January 24, 2011 at 10:25 pm |
  34. Megan Dresslar - Shoreline, WA

    Wow!!!!! What a shocking news I have heard from the book and Mr. Andrew Shrivell.

    January 24, 2011 at 10:25 pm |
  35. Helen

    What is with Andrew Shrivell and other like him attacking the LGBT community?! He needs to leave people alone especially that student who is from the University of Michigan that he harrassed. The student did not anything to him and despite that person is gay, the person is just being himself and making a difference in his community. Shrivell needs to be removed from the society and the public and need to be punished for his crimes. Political attribution and the first amendment (part of the Bill of Rights) is not going to protect you. People, stop covering up his lies, sheilding, and protecting him. Shame on you Shrivell and his advisers.

    January 24, 2011 at 10:24 pm |
  36. lisal -canada

    so would one profile mr shirvell and make a determination as to whether or not the man should be allowed to own a firearm? a concealed weapon? as part of his [previous] job for safety?

    January 24, 2011 at 10:24 pm |
  37. Sharon Hastings

    This remains such a bizarre story and I still don't understand why Mr. Cox supported and defended him. I do believe he was protecting him and it was a big risk to do so. Obviously it backfired on him.

    January 24, 2011 at 10:24 pm |
  38. Emily

    How did Andrew Shirvell get the position that he had with all this criminal active? What he was doing to Chris Armstrong was really outrageous.

    January 24, 2011 at 10:22 pm |
  39. Jo Ann, Ohio

    @Anne-Marie, "She thinks she can win people over just by saying what they want to hear and not the truth."

    Isn't that true of all politicians?

    January 24, 2011 at 10:22 pm |
  40. Ken

    Susan Molinari was wrong about the unemployment rate.

    It was 10.0% in Dec. 2009 (last reported before the 2010 State of the Union) and 9.7% in January 2010. It is 9.4% now.

    I'm sure she prepared that line in advance. Is she lying on purpose or just sloppy with fact-checking?

    January 24, 2011 at 10:22 pm |
  41. Aaron

    Linda, you are right. At the same time, we must also remember it is not as though once you went "north" (and this comes from a Yankee, myself), you just escaped racism.

    Over all, Bachmann fails to recognize in her airbrushed speech that slavery, racism, sexism, ethnocentrism, etc. has been a part of our country from its founding to this very day.

    Let us not sugarcoat our history.

    January 24, 2011 at 10:21 pm |
  42. Jo Ann, Ohio

    Bachman was wrong, but today we have the benefit of seeing slavery through 21st century eyes. The "founding fathers" did not have that advantage. If they had, maybe they would have done things differently.

    January 24, 2011 at 10:20 pm |
  43. james

    history buff in the making, a shame to spoil a good education, ps anderson press a little harder to keep them honest

    January 24, 2011 at 10:19 pm |
  44. Emily

    @Jo Ann,
    I think that there are many who do care what Michele Bachmann has to say as she is a Congresswoman. Palin and O'Donnell are not sitting in any seat, representing anyone.

    January 24, 2011 at 10:19 pm |
  45. Cindy

    CHARLIE,
    I think they want to deny right of citizenship when women come over the border just for that reason; next thing you know we have responsibility for the entire baby's family.

    January 24, 2011 at 10:19 pm |
  46. Catheirne Benson

    Anderson, please don't let your viewers think that all Minnesotans share Michele Bachman's interpretation of history. She is an embarassment to the state.

    January 24, 2011 at 10:19 pm |
  47. Nina

    Go Anderson... don't let him squeeze out of not being responsible for his behaviors!!!

    January 24, 2011 at 10:18 pm |
  48. Susan

    In-bloody-credible.

    Thank you, Paul, for your family's experience and perception.

    We really, really need some sort of real-time system to hold politicians accountable for their misstatements. This woman could say the founders ate babies for breakfast; who's to debunk her?

    January 24, 2011 at 10:18 pm |
  49. Anne-Marie

    Bachman obviously only cares about the group of people she is currently addressing. She thinks she can win people over just by saying what they want to hear and not the truth.

    January 24, 2011 at 10:18 pm |
  50. Linda

    And for the record, to correct @Helen's mistake above, Adams did not own slaves. (Neither Adams.) John and Abigail Adams were strongly opposed to slavery. It was other founding fathers (from the South) who owned slaves.

    January 24, 2011 at 10:17 pm |
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