Rep. Bachmann Flunking History: Join the Live Chat
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Congresswoman Michele Bachmann is preparing for a rebuttal to Pres. Obama's State of the Union speech tomorrow night. She'll speak on behalf of the Tea Party caucus. But it's another speech she gave on Friday that has a lot of people talking, where she flubbed the facts on U.S. History. We're Keeping Them Honest. Plus, see why the folks behind the hit TV show "Mad Men" are being added to our 'RidicuList'.
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If a Cooper' hawk is also known as a chicken hawk, maybe they should have Foghorn Leghorn lure it down.
That poor hawk, hopefully they will get him out safely!
Wait, what? no more Mad Men? Why???????
@Anne-Marie, "The founding fathers will still be held to the standard of leaders no matter what century they were in."
I disagree. The "standards" of the past are not the same as those of today. If that were true, women would have had the right to vote a long time ago and children would have also had rights.
We cannot pretend to know what it was like back in the day of our founders so it is not fair to judge them by our 21st century standards.
that driving into oncoming traffic thing ... wow
perhaps rahm can do a "write-in" campaign ??
They are not taking that death penalty off the table.
Call me Texan but sometimes the death penalty is not so bad when you compare to the crime.
I can't see that trial staying in Arizona
@ Cindy.
Even if that was how it was used they have forgotten that that was also the basis of millions of Irish Amercians being US citizens.
(including my cousins and the Kennesy's ancestors)
Aaron – Over all, Bachmann fails to recognize in her airbrushed speech that slavery, racism, sexism, ethnocentrism, etc. has been a part of our country from its founding to this very day.
Let us not sugarcoat our history.
Great point Aaron.
@Emily, "I think that there are many who do care what Michele Bachmann has to say as she is a Congresswoman."
Maybe I should have said no "sane" people care about what she says. I put her in the same category as Rep. Steve Cohen.
I don't see why insanity should give someone a pass.
Loughner will not be able to plea insanity and if he does, he and his lawyer will have a very hard time proving it due to the letters he wrote before the shooting saying that he was going to kill her
I hope that Jared Loughner will stay in jail forever, I have heard Jared is not guilty, No, He will be found guilty shooting people to die.
Perhaps the insanity plea is outdated, if in fact it is, is because no one gives attention to the insane.
@Joann
The founding fathers will still be held to the standard of leaders no matter what century they were in. It doesn't make it ok and that is an excuse. And to the later comment: why are we not holding our politicians today to a higher standard. It doesn't make it ok that they all do it.
@ Ken Thanks.
That was my recollection also, but I did not have the figures to hand.
If true it would be an outrageous lie.
Andersson Could you pin that down please.
How many voters actually do research into what the politicians who are running say?
With such easy access to information today, seems that people are doing less & less of it.
Loughner is a nut job. Yep, he creeps me out.
Great report about Gifford. God bless her.
Loughner's behavior is eerie.
@BettyAnn:
Amen!
@ Matt
That is the same logic that SCOTUS uses to-day to allow the wealthy to keep political control. SCOTUS contends that money is equivalent to speech and corporations are equivalent to people.
That is patent nonsense but they are afraid the masses would disrupt things.
@Ken
Susan Molinari was talking about unemployment and Paul was talking about jobs. They are really both talking about the same thing even if the numbers are not exactly correct.
Anderson,
Ms. Molanari is an ex politician for a reason-if she thinks the party in control is going to create jobs by competing with the countries that make everything now for the United States, she better get her head of the sand. People in this country won't and should not have to work for a bag of rice or peanuts either. There is no competing with low wages, and big profits.
Shrivell should be indicted for Stalking and Slander.
Isn't it sad when people become comsumed and obsessed with hate? What a waste.
I think that if a person has the sanity to commit a crime, they have the sanity to pay for that crime in the same degree. There should NOT be a seperate legal code for people less sane than others. It is my opinion after a great deal of thought. The insanity plea is outdated. We need a deterrant from crime that works for all people.
I will never understand the insanity of Andrew Shirvall
Nate, you are right. There requires a balance... which I read into your comments.
We must understand the difference between the necessity of guns back in 1776 verses now.
Undoubtedly though, we must admit, that "history repeats itself." And boy does it!
@ Linda
But it is evidence of the founding father's lack of faith in democracy.
To-days version of that is the SCOTUS contention that money is equivalent to speech. Thus weighting citizens political voice according to their weealth, rather than their skin color.
I am all for 1st amendment, but when it comes to the point of someone calling some else all out of their names, something is wrong with that. One is certainly not being very polite.
Wow!!!!! What a shocking news I have heard from the book and Mr. Andrew Shrivell.
What is with Andrew Shrivell and other like him attacking the LGBT community?! He needs to leave people alone especially that student who is from the University of Michigan that he harrassed. The student did not anything to him and despite that person is gay, the person is just being himself and making a difference in his community. Shrivell needs to be removed from the society and the public and need to be punished for his crimes. Political attribution and the first amendment (part of the Bill of Rights) is not going to protect you. People, stop covering up his lies, sheilding, and protecting him. Shame on you Shrivell and his advisers.
so would one profile mr shirvell and make a determination as to whether or not the man should be allowed to own a firearm? a concealed weapon? as part of his [previous] job for safety?
This remains such a bizarre story and I still don't understand why Mr. Cox supported and defended him. I do believe he was protecting him and it was a big risk to do so. Obviously it backfired on him.
How did Andrew Shirvell get the position that he had with all this criminal active? What he was doing to Chris Armstrong was really outrageous.
@Anne-Marie, "She thinks she can win people over just by saying what they want to hear and not the truth."
Isn't that true of all politicians?
Susan Molinari was wrong about the unemployment rate.
It was 10.0% in Dec. 2009 (last reported before the 2010 State of the Union) and 9.7% in January 2010. It is 9.4% now.
I'm sure she prepared that line in advance. Is she lying on purpose or just sloppy with fact-checking?
Linda, you are right. At the same time, we must also remember it is not as though once you went "north" (and this comes from a Yankee, myself), you just escaped racism.
Over all, Bachmann fails to recognize in her airbrushed speech that slavery, racism, sexism, ethnocentrism, etc. has been a part of our country from its founding to this very day.
Let us not sugarcoat our history.
Bachman was wrong, but today we have the benefit of seeing slavery through 21st century eyes. The "founding fathers" did not have that advantage. If they had, maybe they would have done things differently.
history buff in the making, a shame to spoil a good education, ps anderson press a little harder to keep them honest
@Jo Ann,
I think that there are many who do care what Michele Bachmann has to say as she is a Congresswoman. Palin and O'Donnell are not sitting in any seat, representing anyone.
CHARLIE,
I think they want to deny right of citizenship when women come over the border just for that reason; next thing you know we have responsibility for the entire baby's family.
Anderson, please don't let your viewers think that all Minnesotans share Michele Bachman's interpretation of history. She is an embarassment to the state.
Go Anderson... don't let him squeeze out of not being responsible for his behaviors!!!
In-bloody-credible.
Thank you, Paul, for your family's experience and perception.
We really, really need some sort of real-time system to hold politicians accountable for their misstatements. This woman could say the founders ate babies for breakfast; who's to debunk her?
Bachman obviously only cares about the group of people she is currently addressing. She thinks she can win people over just by saying what they want to hear and not the truth.
And for the record, to correct @Helen's mistake above, Adams did not own slaves. (Neither Adams.) John and Abigail Adams were strongly opposed to slavery. It was other founding fathers (from the South) who owned slaves.