August 2nd, 2010
09:12 PM ET

Evening Buzz: Immigration and changing the constitution

Cate Vojdik
AC360° Writer

There’s new word tonight on just how much oil spilled into the Gulf of Mexico before BP capped its ruptured well last month. Scientists charged with determining the flow say that roughly 4.9 million barrels of oil have seeped into the Gulf. That’s slightly more than the previous estimate of 4.5 million gallons.

The amount is important because it will determine the fines that BP will ultimately face. We’ll have more on the new number and what it means tonight on 360.

We’ll also have the latest on BP’s effort to kill the broken Macondo well. There’s been another delay. A leak was discovered today as BP was preparing to conduct a final test before the so-called static kill begins. The test has been postponed until the leak is fixed. We’ll take a close look at what exactly BP plans to do to kill the well. It’s a two-pronged approach. If all goes well, mud and then cement will be blasted into the well casing from above and below. If this sounds familiar it should. We all remember the “top kill” that failed. But there are some differences this time around. Namely, oil is no longer gushing out of the well head. Tom Foreman will explain it all, including the risks.

Also tonight, the battle over illegal immigration has erupted into a fiery debate over changing the constitution.

Some Republicans, including Senator Lindsey Graham, John McCain, Jon Kyl, and Arizona State Senator Russell Pearce want to change the 14th amendment, which defines who is an American. Keeping them honest, are they wrong about the facts? And why are they pushing for a dramatic change in the constitution now, when before they supported far less severe reforms? We’ll look at these questions and more.

We’ll also have the latest on a manhunt underway tonight in Arizona following a prison break. Two fugitives are still at large. One felon who escaped the private prison Friday night was caught on Sunday. All three are convicted killers. Police believe a female accomplice is helping the fugitives. How did the convicts pull off their escape and how is the manhunt unfolding? That’s what we’ll be looking at tonight.

See you at 10 p.m. eastern.

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  1. dixiesaid2

    I agree wholeheartedly with Joan,and I can't believe there are those who wont to change our constitution.That just makes me mad! Our constitution has served us well and created the greatest nation on the planet.Illegals come here get pregnant,solely for the purpose of trying to make America look bad if we deport those who were born here.All though their parents are citizens of other countries and in my view their children are citizens of where their parents were born.We have people here in America who are poor,need food,shelter,jobs,medical care and their needs are not being met! I believe in reaching out a helping hand to others that is what God tells us to do.Changing our constitution that our men and boys have died to protect in order to serve those who have broken our laws by coming here illegally is like spitting in the face of our forefathers.Our president has shamed America by allowing the president of Mexico to stand here" in America" and belittle our country,"and apologize for America" I'm ashamed to call him our president!There's a good bit more I could say so I'll stop with "God help America" to turn to you and follow the laws of our land that you have blessed with your goodness.

    August 5, 2010 at 3:03 am |
  2. Joan Michel

    Instead of changing the constitution, or going after individuals, why not charge the criminal businesses that are hiring illegal aliens? Fine them $100,000 per illegal alien (or some amount they will notice, not an amount they can shrug off as 'the cost of doing business").
    These businesses are the elephant in the room – I have heard no senators or governors say anything about this – why are they allowing these criminal businesses to break the laws of their states? Breaking the law is breaking the law.

    August 3, 2010 at 10:09 am |
  3. Joan Michel

    Instead of changing the constitution (bad idea), or going after individuals, why not penalize those businesses that are hiring illegal aliens? After all, they are breaking the law by hiring people that are not citizens or have work permits. Fine them $100,000 (or some amount they will notice, not just an amount that they will write off as the 'cost of doing business') per illegal alien they hire. There must be lots of these businesses – they are the elephants in the room that no senators or governors are talking about – why are the senators & governors allowing these criminal businesses to operate in their states? Breaking the law is breaking the law – but I don't see any crackdown on these companies!

    August 3, 2010 at 10:01 am |
  4. David

    The reason the lower class is upset with the illegal immigration situation is that they are the easiest target!
    We should be blaming the Banks and other ruthless financial giants.
    Crooked politicians as well are to blame!
    There is going to be a class war unless the deep pockets that have all the $ spread that wealth and do something for the impoverished of this great nation.
    Until we fix the lopsided wealth we can do nothing about the other issues.
    People do not think correctly when they are starving!

    August 3, 2010 at 9:41 am |
  5. Liba

    If I'm a U.S. citizen and I happen to be in another country when I go into labor is my child not an American? Does my child automatically become a citizen of that country? Do the children of illegal aliens in the U.S. have dual citizenship?
    Please clarify the following: When the 14th amendment was written, what was their immigration policy at the time? Was there such a thing as illegal immigration then? If so, what did they say about their offspring's status?

    August 3, 2010 at 7:24 am |
  6. jean

    if any people are here illegally and are given amnesty and do not have to swear allegiance to be a citizen are they loyal to u s or where they came from ...and can the not being citizens picket this country to do what they want ..

    August 3, 2010 at 5:47 am |
  7. snl

    Again you show your bias, you have Russel pearce and Paul democrat on and let them argue briefly and then you bring on the supposed expert of all experts on the 14th amendment and he is the know all end all and that is that, I will bet you that there are a number of scholars from other schools that would argue the other side of the point, how could the forefathers foresee hundreds of thousands of mexicans coming accross the border and abusing are system, I don't think the foresaw telvision and the exploration of space either, The fact is you can go to any border hospital and you will see that mexicans are in fact coming accross the border and having babies for free and also getting the kids us citizenship and we are paying for it because the hospitals can not turn them away, be fair for once

    August 3, 2010 at 2:31 am |
  8. jim

    AC your bias is showing.
    You show pictures of illegals as farm workers, not as meat packers, construction workers, material handlers, medial support, hospitality workers– illegals are not picking lettuce in Omaha, Chicago, NY, Atlanta.

    How about a historian with a different view.

    August 3, 2010 at 2:22 am |
  9. Seth

    I am a legal alien waiting for a green card for the past 6 years and do not support birth right citizenzip. If 300,000 like me can wait years following due process and laws to earn the right to live here, why should there be a shortcut for illegals here illegally?

    Once the illegals follow process, get green card the right way, their kids will too.

    Why this shortcut for some who are here illegally?

    August 3, 2010 at 2:17 am |
  10. Jane Fontius

    Possibly a compromise to the "anchor baby" issue & 14th Amendment.
    Children born in the U.S. to non-citizens be given a provisional citizenship until age 18. At that time if the child has had good school attendance (problem with high school dropouts) and no police issues (problems with ethnic gangs, etc) then full citizenship would be granted.
    This would provide citizenship for a U.S. born child of immigrants while also requiring some simple requirements (other than place of birth) before achieving permanent citizenship & all the benefits that that affords.

    August 3, 2010 at 12:57 am |
  11. julie black

    As a illegal immigrat and a mother of two kids i wish they would do something about immigration, because one of my child was not born here but he was here from he was 9month old this is the only place he know . , so i want the goverment to do something.

    August 2, 2010 at 11:41 pm |
  12. Mba

    This is playing politics with fundaments of modern democracy. "Juris Soli" or the right derived from the soil is a fundament of US democracy, not a political opinion. If you question it, you might as well question the right of non-indians to consider themselves citizens of a legal State in North America. If it is Right by Allegiance at Birth and not a Right by Place of Birth, so, when will we change the law back to nobility rights? And decide who can be King and who cannot be? Do these politicians know what they are playing with?

    August 2, 2010 at 11:32 pm |
  13. Jesus Gallegos

    What are these Republicans coming to? Now they are trying to change the want to change the 14th amendment, which defines who is an American. Is that the best they have? Wow!... Disappointing, extremely disappointing...

    August 2, 2010 at 11:23 pm |
  14. concerned

    I am getting very frustrated at the intensity of the fight CNN and others are putting up for Immigration reform so that those votes will be available for some candidates. That is all this is about. People in Arizona have nothing against the people across the boarder and would help them just l like they would help anyone else. Making people out to be uncaring will backfire. This whole argument from the Federal Government will get people killed. Caring about people who need help is one trait the Americans have the most of. CNN is getting many angry where I live and many want a different news feed.

    Let's treat people who live just across the boarder just like everyone else in the world. Let's provide aid and solutions for them. Letting them come live amongst us as they wish is not the answer. There is going to be an explosive result if the government get's its way. Remember I said this.

    August 2, 2010 at 10:32 pm |
  15. Neal Evans

    This is America. It is my country. It a country based on customs, traditions and especially laws. Our fore fathers/mothers made the ultimate sacrifice for America to become a sovereign nation.
    Why do we allow a foreign country to dump 12,000,000,000+ of their under-educated, indigent citizens on the United States and expec t Americans to support them. Why don't we post signs on our border stating "Welcome to America the welfare state of Mexico". When we allowed the Mexican president to speak before Congress and lecture us about our immigration policy when he is actively dumping his social problems on America, we were dishonored. In our pursuit to be politically correct we've become socially paralyzed. America is a sovereign nation and repeated trespassing on our sovereign soil is a form of anarchy and those who disrespect our laws should be snagged, bagged and deported.

    August 2, 2010 at 10:27 pm |
  16. paul

    The senator is dead wrong about illegals taking jobs from citizens. Alot of the jobs they do most americans won't do.

    August 2, 2010 at 10:21 pm |

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