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Arizona's new immigration laws went into effect today and sparked protests that are still going on tonight. We'll have all the angles. Plus, Congressman Charlie Rangel can't make a deal to avoid a potentially embarrassing public trial. He's facing 13 ethics charges. We'll talk it over with CNN's Jeffrey Toobin and Gloria Borger.
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Rangel is a criminal. Just because others have done it doesn't make it right. What if we didn't report our income? What would happen to us?
On Rangel, so is he or is he not acting like a mob boss in NY?
I didn't think that U.S congressmen made enough money to have a villa in a yacht club in the Dominican Republic, plus a fancy office building, plus a fancy office, and other fancy things. Sounds like someone has been taking a few kickbacks here and there
Until I moved to Arizona, I really didn't understand the real scope of this problem. Illegal aliens can get better healthcare than I can, send their kids to school, receive food stamps...using money I am paying into the system and they are not. How is this right? If 13 million Canadians were in the country illegally, misusing our tax dollars, I'd have the same problem with them. It has nothing to do with skin color – that's simply an excuse, and one I'm pretty tired of hearing.
Nothing will happen to Rep. Rangel; the Democrats in Congress are afraid of the backlash from the Congressional Black Caucus, of which Rangel was a founder.
What are the other Democrats saying?
Who is speaking out, and who is staying silent?
Avoid the humiliation of a trial? Are you kidding me? He should stand trial like the rest of us would if we had broken the law.
Yes, illegals should be deported. But why should I, a US-naturalized mexican-born person, be subjected to possible detained, arrested, only because I happened to not have a driver's license with me while in AZ?
So what is wrong with the AZ is the possible harassing against legal Hispanics.
I'm glad that AZ actually has the galls to step up and attempt to take control of the immigration problem that we face. Does the federal Govt. not realize that with all the illegal aliens working in the states and not paying taxes or for their healthcare that it is damaging the American economy which in turn affects the amount of unemployment and the amount of jobs available for legal citizens that pay taxes. i mean come on.
Oh boy!!!!!! Not good news for me hear Charlie Rangel is big trouble now broke the rules, he didn't pay his taxes, What was he thinking??????? 13??????? Shame on him!!!! I am glad that he was kicked out his office......... YIKES!!!
Right Larry. But aren't the hispanics who are here leagally going to turn against Obama? The legal hispanics are the ones who can vote and they are footing the bill for the illegals too.
Immigration, I have been to over 50 countries and I do not know of any that do not require a passport or documentation and or visa for the time spent there. Why not in the USA?
Charly Rangel needs to be responsible for his behaviors
If someone breaks into your house, eats your food and relaxes on the couch, you call the police. you do this because they have broken the law, plain and simple. If someone is the country illegally they are breaking the law. Why wouldn't you want to protect your country the sameway you protect your house? This isn't about being in the U.S. legally, it's about being here illegally. You can't say breaking the law is O'k for 1 reason, but not the other.
80 years old!!! This is why we need term limits!!! They, both Rep. and Dem. need to retire just like the rest of us.
I'm going to Arizon next week to show my support of Gov Brewer and spend Money!!!!!!!!! Purposely holding a meeting in Arizona to show mysupport. I won't yell, scream, get arrested. I'll send some cold hard cash to support the economy. Go Gov Brewer. Go Sheriff Apraio
We have to be very careful with all of this state's rights stuff. Those who do not know their history are doomed to repeat it. We are going right back down that slippery slope with people screaming state's rights. That usually means we want to do something in our state that the rest of the country doesn't think is moral, you know, like slavery or Jim Crow.
With regard to the claims of racism let's be frank about something. The majority of illegal immigrants in Arizona are Mexican people. Are the authorities more likely to be checking blond haired, blue eyed, light skinned people as possible illegal immigrants ? The answer has to be no. They are going to be looking at people who look Mexican. That's not racism it's logic. Let's get all this emotional crap behind us and face the facts. If a green car is involved in a hit and run are the police going to go looking for red ones. Get real and stop whining.
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I'm here in the US legally, I'm a permanent resident [Green card holder], it cost me time and money but did it correctly, Some might be surprised but I do agree with enforce the law, not with racial profiling and this is the topic to be careful about.
Right on JoAnn of Ohio. Mexico needs to take care of their own people and quit criticizing the US.
I would support LEGAL identification so employers can examine prior to employment. If they hire illegals, FINE them $20,000. No more jobs much less illegals. How about not giving SS and social benefits to individuals that do not show LEGAL identification.
Now that's an embarrassing photo!
God bless Mr. Hernandez for not being afraid to speak the truth. I'm a latina living in deep south Texas (employed in the health care industry) and I, too, have witnessed too many instances of illegal aliens taking advantage of the system- it's down right wrong.
i'm a mexican-american viet-nam vet who says that it is wrong to punish these people. we have the people from viet nam. people that i fought. why is that they are not punished under this law ?
Love the pic of Rangel laying on the beach in the D.R. blahaha what a jerk!
Michael... lol
Charly Rangel needs to be responsible like the rest of Americans
SB1070 reminds me of the camera they put up at one of the main intersections to cut down on traffic accidents. One problem 90% of the tickets are coasting on a right hand turn w/o completely stopping. What a profit wind fall.
When the Federal government is unwilling to protect it's citizens, the state and local governments have the obligation to do so.
one point of the judges ruling should be clarified. She ruled that the police officers can not be required to ask for proof of citizenship – after someone is first stopped for another reason.
However, they are free to ask for proof of citizenship ... they are able to ask for it, but can not be required to ask for it.
One can see "profiling" as it is argued on your show relative to the Arizona Law every where, everyday. Example: Most states have a minimum age to purchase alcohol and the bartenders "card" and ask for identification proving age. Judgment is made because the person "appears" to be underage. Bartenders make this call and are hardly as well qualified to make such calls as say a Police Officer
Why would any citizen of this country not support Arizona in upholding the law! Hopefully Florida will follow suit as we have been suffering the same problem here for decades. Thank You Arizona!
Wow if this is racial profiling .. then what about "RANDOM" checks at flight gates @ Airport . I wonder why do I get pulled aside atleast once in 4 times I travel, after passing all security checks and before I board the plane....I suppose that is "RANDOM" not racial profiling 🙂
as an African American i feel i have felt racism in many forms but i have to wonder if we as a nation is really looking at this issue with jaded eyes because of the sins of our fathers this is a cut and dry issue legal and illegal. there is a major drug issue as well as a nation dealing with terrorism right at some point we have to accept the fact that there are some necessary evils.
Charlie Wrangell needs to step down.
Then again – so does Ensign and Vitter.
Illegal immigrates should follow the law to become legal. We have a huge unemployement rate for Americans. As an American tax payer I am already paying for legal Americans that are unemployed, uninsured, and on food stamps. We need to take care of our own before we take more financial burden for the illegal immigrates.
I am going to a "Support Arizona" rally this Sat. in PA. I have urged my congressmet to pass similar legislation. Profiling? You don't look for skunks in the canary's cage. If I'm pulled over, I have to show license, registration, and proof of insurance. I dobn't see a problem with asking for proof of citizenship.
My mom was born in Finland and my dad in .
Mexico. Both are naturalize citizens. My dad has been stopped for a traffic violation and asked if he spoke English. He does. My mom has been stopped and has never been asked if she speaks English. Why? She looks white and he does not. This happened years ago here in Tucson AZ- 1070 has potential flaws – it has potential racial. Profiling for an Anwerican citizen. No one wants criminals here so let's round up the criminals instead of wasting time and money.
It's too bad the Indigenous People, of which the Mexicans are a part of, didn't have immigration laws back in the days of "discovery and colonization", before the time of borders and now being considered by "other" immigrants as illegal aliens on lands their forefathers were able to pass freely over.
Supporters of Illegal Immigration often cite that we are a Nation
of laws.Then how come they are supporting people who broke the law?
It's time for Rangel to go!
I was in agreement with the Arizona Law until I saw a story today on CNN that showed someone that actually came here at the age of 3 and is now 23 with no legal status. That is a bit disturbing in the sense that he came at the age of three, how can we hold him accountable for coming illegally. I think there has to be a path for citizenship for people like that without a criminal record.
Anderson.. I will be trying to get a student visa to go to Arizona for my post Grad. And I would like to know how this will affect me!
Brianna & Janet
I agree with you. The focus seems to be on Hispanics (mainly because of Mexico being south of Arizona), but your point is well taken. There are illegal aliens of many nationalities all over the country, not just Hispanics. They (hispanics) may have a higher number of illegal aliens but other areas of the country (including Arizona) have many other groups as well. This immigration law is not just after Hispanics or Latinos.
I dont care what Charly Rangel did we need to let him off easy he deserves it let him spend the rest of his days without humiliation .
Some Puerto Ricans have been detained in the past few months to check their immigration status, and they are U.S. Citizens. Doesn't that scare the rest of the citizenry? It certainly does a lot of us U.S. Citizens, who are descendants of Hispanics, and live in Arizona. We shouldn't have to worry about being detained!
Yesterday you showed the "prisons" where illegal immigrants will be held. It didn't look like there was any place for the inmates to have any privacy, and sleeping on metal beds for 6 months doesn't seem humane. It looked a lot like a concentration camp to me, and this whole thing seems to be leading in that direction. The "sweeps" look totally inhumane. Maybe the police are starting with the Mexicans but it will spread to everyone soon. The police are being given too much power.
If they can't speak English, it isn't hard to figure out they are here illigally.
I'm hoping the state of Oregon does the same thing. I'm tired of paying taxes to educate their kids, pay for their health care, watch them send their money back to Mexico, take over our parks and on and on.
They even have the gall to insist we change the name of our streets and schools to Chavez.
@Terry What is the Alternative? The People will get fed up & go down to the Border armed & start shooting the drug dealers as they come into this Country ILLEGALLY Since The Government refuses to do its job & enforce the law
I live 30 miles from the Mexican border and teach some 15 miles from it. in New Mexico. It has become very frustrating watching illegals taking up space in our schools. Spanish speakers not willing to learn English. Hearing kids make negative comments about America and saying Mexico is better. People in the area will ask you if you speak Spanish and if you say no they ask you why not. I usually respond the last time I checked you entered my country.
eazy to solve this law that you must have a id or lic.. remake all to have citizenship on them and thier are germans , irish and on and on so not a color of skin thing.
Why not send all illegals by bus to Washington DC and drop them off in front of the Capital and they will soon agree with Arizona. Don't ship them back over the border. DC can pay their bills.