March 12th, 2010
09:45 PM ET

Pharmaceutical Fraud: Join the Live Chat

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Tonight on 360°, a brazen case of health care fraud at the world's largest pharmaceutical company. If a person had done what this company did, they would have locked him up and thrown away the key, but as you'll see that didn't happen. They got special treatment. Plus, more of Anderson's interview with Chaz Bono, who used to be Chastity. He explains why he made the transformation from female to male.

Scroll down to join the live chat during the program. It's your chance to share your thoughts on tonight's headlines. Keep in mind, you have a better chance of having your comment get past our moderators if you follow our rules.

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soundoff (222 Responses)
  1. Karoline, Los Angeles

    And I know their parents love them on some level, but sometimes the parents are trapped in the lifestyle. Or their parents are in prison, or work 2-3 jobs, or die.

    March 12, 2010 at 10:43 pm |
  2. dp

    Pharmacia along with Upjohn were companies actually acquired and responsible for discovery and development of Bextra. Wouldn't it be justice for Pfizer to shore up the horrible medical plans for the retirees from the acquired companies? How about $11,000/yr single person no medical problems and getting closer to catastrophic coverage with eacch passing year's reduction in benefits?

    March 12, 2010 at 10:43 pm |
  3. starr, formerly known as vincent


    Thanks for the info on the side effects the higher than recommended doses were. I figured that there had to be some damage as a result of misuse of this medication.

    March 12, 2010 at 10:42 pm |
  4. Vivian - Montreal

    Oh Psycho! over 100 picts of women +kids...wow!

    March 12, 2010 at 10:42 pm |
  5. Larry

    I hope that Father Boyle knows when he needs to step aside and not embrace the power he currently holds.

    March 12, 2010 at 10:42 pm |
  6. Pamela

    Pfizer is in Canada too. This is just one corporation ...The consumer has the ability to stop all these abuses. Just buy good food.... oh yes... if there is still crop rotation..

    March 12, 2010 at 10:42 pm |
  7. Harry

    RE Pfizer and fraud – as a former via laid-off employee, I can tell you that the environment at Pfizer has changed. The impact of this "event" was significant. They have taken away all sales-reps financial incentives and have put sales materials on computers so they can track it and control it, just to mention some major issues. They have basically turned their salespeople into nicely dressed up UPS/FEDEX delivery people. Dropping samples and smiling. Medications are an interesting subject. Just remember this, if you don't like the way they do business, you don't have to take their meds.

    March 12, 2010 at 10:42 pm |
  8. Nancy in Oregon

    Karoline, I imagine they have. Still might do. It would not be the first time.

    March 12, 2010 at 10:41 pm |
  9. Nicole from the Netherlands

    Seen documentary´s on `america´s hardest prisons. Gangs and more gangs and violence.
    What good work!!
    Hope! What a man, this father!
    Thanks for this Anderson!

    March 12, 2010 at 10:41 pm |
  10. Karoline, Los Angeles

    Sheen is correct. They are unloved and lost young people. So true.

    March 12, 2010 at 10:41 pm |
  11. Megan Dresslar - Shoreline, WA

    This is Hollenbeck touch my heart, I think Father Boyle is absolutely right, It is very interesting to me, I am also against gangs on the street... I felt not safe from gangs, it is very danger. Martin Sheen is best actor and most important man!

    March 12, 2010 at 10:40 pm |
  12. Gloria, Brooklyn, NY

    May God be with all of us who are making a change for the better!

    March 12, 2010 at 10:40 pm |
  13. Sharon Hastings

    Thank you for bringing the hopeful side of the Hollenbeck story.

    March 12, 2010 at 10:40 pm |
  14. Emily

    @Vivian, yes, it's too bad that many of their parents have been shot & killed too!

    March 12, 2010 at 10:39 pm |
  15. Debra A Pendergast

    Why do they call it healthcare? Don't they mean "wealthcare"
    The healthcare industry is littered with this type of greed. The truth is while we die .......they get rich.

    March 12, 2010 at 10:39 pm |
  16. Daniel Sater

    If I commit a criminal act, I don't get a fine, I go to jail. We need to change our laws giving corporations the legal status as any citizen. Fines are the problem. Management should be prosecuted and if found guilty, go to jail.

    Our laws should make them responsible for the actions of, in this instance, the sales team. If one does something it;s his fault. If they all do it the CEO, and President should be at fault.

    That would stop this nonsense.

    March 12, 2010 at 10:39 pm |
  17. Karoline, Los Angeles

    I wonder if some gang members have tried to hurt or kill Father Boyle?

    March 12, 2010 at 10:39 pm |
  18. Teagan

    Wait, I watch AC360 like very night, but this is the first time I have "chatted" about it. Do the same people talk every night? Because this is kinda funnnn!

    March 12, 2010 at 10:38 pm |
  19. Jo Ann, North Royalton, Ohio

    @Emily, I am so glad to see that Father Boyle is still hanging in there. They certainly need him and he is making a difference. I hope Anderson continues to follow his progress.

    March 12, 2010 at 10:38 pm |
  20. Emily

    @Joshua, from ON, Canada,

    Lol, I noticed your post there. I saw that the Canadian $ is doing quite well.

    March 12, 2010 at 10:38 pm |
  21. LisaL -Canada

    sometimes when people appear to let other people take advantage of them, it really is more of a passive attitude and observing how people act – this is what i see in rev greg.

    "a true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good."

    March 12, 2010 at 10:38 pm |
  22. marieme

    regarding pfizer'fraud case, i believe the government should fine them 10 to 15 billion dollars instead of 2 billions. It may perhaps make a difference in how they adhere to FDA regulations...

    March 12, 2010 at 10:37 pm |
  23. Nancy in Oregon

    Forgiveness instead of revenge...boy, couldn't the world use that mantra?! All of us, at some point, can use it.

    March 12, 2010 at 10:37 pm |
  24. Kim- Ohio

    What a great program for these people trying to turn their lives around. Rev Boyle is a true hero!!!

    March 12, 2010 at 10:37 pm |
  25. Karoline, Los Angeles

    Moya is clearly an intelligent man. It breaks my heart that he's not done more with his intelligence. And why didn't he use his brain? The causes are so many and so intertwined with the society where he grew up.

    People say it's all up to individual choice. That's baloney.

    March 12, 2010 at 10:37 pm |
  26. Christine - Houston, Texas

    I totally agree. I think the drug commercials do more harm than good.
    People see a commercial for some medication on tv and say "Hey. I need that drug," when they probably don't.

    March 12, 2010 at 10:37 pm |
  27. sylvia

    As always,,,it's all about the money! !

    March 12, 2010 at 10:37 pm |
  28. Vivian - Montreal

    It's too bad that a Rev. has to clean up the neighbourhood instead of the parents raising their children properly.

    March 12, 2010 at 10:37 pm |
  29. starr, formerly known as vincent

    God bless Father Boyle! You have to love this man and what he has done!

    Anderson, thank you again for your follow up on such an important issue.

    Forgiveness instead of revenge....something to really think about.

    March 12, 2010 at 10:37 pm |
  30. Margo Roman

    Drug companies as well as dog food companies control veterinary medical colleges and this control needs to end to allow freedom of information to be given to students and those receiving treatment at the facilities. The drug companies have more than their foot in the door at medical schools they have a huge influence on many faculty and what informations is given to students and patients.
    The drug companies even have their hand in the law schools.
    Please do a story on this. I am happy to give you more information

    March 12, 2010 at 10:37 pm |
  31. Ron in NC

    The party of NO wants less government intervention, more corporate freedom and less interference with the private sector.
    So why are we complaining we are getting what we are told is the best situation for capitalism and corporate America.
    Fine them, why? The price of their drugs just go up faster. Let them fail because their drugs will be sold and made by other (hopefully ) more honest companies that will see what the real penalties can be.

    March 12, 2010 at 10:36 pm |
  32. Karen, MN

    The ex-gang members look so bad, but they seem to have big hearts under the hard shell.

    March 12, 2010 at 10:36 pm |
  33. Emily

    Father Boyle is SO Inspirational 🙂

    Moya has been shot an average of every 5yrs! He's very lucky to be alive. It's good to see him like this now, rather than 5yrs ago.

    March 12, 2010 at 10:36 pm |
  34. Randy

    Starr- the drug caused a higher risk of stroke and heart attack, as well as a risk of a fatal skin reaction.

    March 12, 2010 at 10:36 pm |
  35. Nancy in Oregon

    I'm late tonight....but what an interesting thought, 'giving away' one's advantage vs being taken advantage of. Father Boyle is a rare man.

    March 12, 2010 at 10:35 pm |
  36. Diane

    This Pfizer thing is another abomination in the health care system and more attention needs to be brought out about how big drug companies are making the cost of medication stay high. They are the chief ones that don't want health care reform. We need to be able to buy cheaper meds from Canada. thank you.

    March 12, 2010 at 10:35 pm |
  37. David McGuerty

    In schools, how do we now:
    -Teach ethics and law when the golden rule is "be too big to foil"?
    -Teach economics when the golden rule is "be too big to fail"?

    It seems this country's main products now are fraud and deception....smoke and mirrors...

    This clearly marks the end of a great empire.

    March 12, 2010 at 10:34 pm |
  38. Larry

    Pharmaceutical companies need profits not only for recouping the $$ they put into R&D but also to work on 'orphan' drugs; those drugs which are specific to illnesses which affect a very small percentage of the population.

    March 12, 2010 at 10:34 pm |
  39. John

    Don't forget that doctors can, and do, prescribe drugs outside of labeling. Many of these uses fall within the "usual standards of care". Why would a surgeon prescribe Bextra. Because patients want narcotics, not ibuprofen. Bextra offered them another option. Was anyone truly hurt. How many patients got relief from Bextra. Perhaps it worked better than other pain medicines. Did you research that? Someone said that if you or I had done this, we would have been thrown in jail. Let's be real hear, I got screwed out of more money last week on a lousy car repair, than anyone lost on a prescription for Bextra. We all lose more money to cell phone providers for their lousy service, crafty billing, and deceptive promises than anyone lost on Bextra. . If you have enough money, even murder is beatable in this country.

    March 12, 2010 at 10:34 pm |
  40. Linda, East End LI

    In my opinion, all drug TV commercials should be dropped/banned.

    Cigarette & Alcohol commercials were.

    March 12, 2010 at 10:33 pm |
  41. Maria t

    Finally! Thank you for showing just a taste of the kind of fraud that the pharma industry has been perpetrating against the public with impunity for many years. Please do more! This is a HUGE part of true healthcare reform.

    March 12, 2010 at 10:33 pm |
  42. Joshua, from ON, Canada

    ABSOLUTELY lol get your medications from Canada, we could always use the business 🙂 although I think that the government would have a serious problems with the loss of money. Remember, they tax almost every step of the production, and distribution process.

    March 12, 2010 at 10:33 pm |
  43. David, Indiana

    2-3B is a significant penalty. I'm sorry can someone please tell me how pfizer reps were illegally promoting drugs didn't catch that

    I don't understand the shell corporations.

    March 12, 2010 at 10:32 pm |
  44. Vivian - Montreal

    @ Emily
    "lady killer' dude is very creepy!

    March 12, 2010 at 10:32 pm |
  45. Megan Dresslar - Shoreline, WA

    Drew Griffin is absolutely right against this companies., That was so fraud pharmacy who are not telling truth people, they are crooked or fool people.... Thanks Drew, Keep Them Honest!

    March 12, 2010 at 10:32 pm |
  46. Joan Schneider

    Since the recent Supreme COurt rulling(that corporations have free spech like people) – then I believe they should be treated like poeple. Anderson, you or I would be in the big house by now had we done what they have done!!!

    March 12, 2010 at 10:32 pm |
  47. starr, formerly known as vincent

    Maybe i missed it. Were ANY patients hurt from these high does of the medication?

    March 12, 2010 at 10:32 pm |
  48. Emily

    That "wall of silence" is just nuts!
    Somehow that has to come to an end.

    March 12, 2010 at 10:32 pm |
  49. Chidori

    Power corrupt, the love of money is the root of all evil.
    The more thing change the more they stay the same.
    Just remember you reap what you sow.
    They will be exposed someday for their crimes.

    March 12, 2010 at 10:32 pm |
  50. Dulcie - Denver

    The Pfizer case is disgusting, but it's business as usual for big companies in the United States. Sad, but true. I know it sounds incredibly jaded, but I learned at a really young age that the rich and powerful virtually never have to pay for their wrongs. For every Bernie Madoff, there are hundreds of other crooks out there

    March 12, 2010 at 10:31 pm |
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