Live Blog from the Anchor Desk 11/23/09
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Tonight on 360°, could a government panel's guidelines influence the law over what would be covered in the Senate health care reform bill? We're keeping them honest on Capitol Hill. Plus, former Vice President Dick Cheney speaks out against the 9/11 terror trials in New York. And, a bank robbery suspect is arrested by cops. And wait till you see what was caught on tape as he was handcuffed.
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Good evening,
"Who's more popular Sarah Palin or Barack Obama? Is this high school?
Yikes! What a question! Where is the substance or relevance to the days issues?
4 in 10, or fully a third a misdiagnosed? That is staggering. Do all of those people fully recover? to think of that someone hearing everything, understanding it, but hard to show comprehension, but it's there. And medical science is always advancing undestanding.
I almost can't believe veterans end up homeless, for that to happen to them after their service is heartrending. Roy Foster's program is truly a godsend.
It does not matter when this started.... it needs to be stopped. Women, especially breast cancer surviors, need to let Washington know that this is WRONG for all American women. I am a breast cancer survivor. In my early 40's, I had a digital mammogram that detected DCIS (early/noninvasive breast cancer)... Had I not had a mammogram, my prognosis and treatment would have been much more costly in every way... emotionally, physically, financially, etc... Think about your wives, mothers, daughters.... I am already worried for my daughter and YOURS!
sara palin is only getting more popular because of the MEDIA. IF the Media in America would NOT spot light her, so much, she would just fade away....
I loved the bit about the Veteran taking care of the homeless vets. There is so much going on in our country and around the world that we just don't know about. And this is a story of one of those happenings. Thanks for bringing it out...it was great !
I think that you should focus on the science and facts rather than try to stir emotional issues. The data reported in the study are what is relevant. If there is no difference in the death rate of women from breast cancer with or without mammograms, perhaps the real conclusion is that mammograms are not as good a diagnostic test as they are made out to be. This would suggest that it would be better to consider the facts and issues of breast cancer trreatment rather than flame emotional fires. I was very disappointed with Dr. Healy. She seems to have lost any scientific credibility and surrendered her judgement to political emotion
@Nancy in Denver
You are so right about auditing bills, testing, procedures, etc.
I worked for over 10 yrs. as a Nurse/Medical Consultant for Ins. Co.s and that was part of my job.
Very large sums of money were saved due to this auditing and teaching claims handlers and billing people how to audit too (or refer to the case to a consultant).
You are also right about the amt. of jobs this would create. I have written to the President and my Sen.s and Rep. about this.
@Mike, formerly from Syracuse Now I don't argue that...I'm just saying nobody will need to be sent to GITMO
Um. It's getting lonely out here~
So, GOBBLE GOBBLE GOBBLE = simply translated is Good Night!
This story is really interesting. I saw something similar on a previous episode of House in 2009. It's called 'Locked In'. The patient was awake but couldn't communicate. In that episode, they ended up using a computer interface to discover that he's awake. Pretty cool indeed.
Thank goodness Jeff Toobin is there to debunk the hysteria about the trials for the 9-11 bombers. As he said, this is a chance to show that the US is a nation of laws, and that we have nothing to fear by giving anyone–whoever they are and regardless of what they are accused of–a fair trial. There is nothing to fear by providing justice. Its when we fail to do so, that we should be afraid.
Yes, the ladies of 360 are taking over 🙂
@Brandon, if a verdict of not guilty will be ignored, then let's save the money and just execute them. There is no doubt of their guilt.
Hi Erica, you look good in the "chair" and Rand-Kaye is a terrific compliment.
This medical story is really frightening.
In nursing school we were instructed to always speak to people who were in comas as they well could be concious and hear you.
I used to tell coma patients the local and national news, sports, family messages etc.
I never had anyone wake up but due to this story, i'm glad i did what i did.
I was participating in pet therapy and my dog made a man in a vegetative state respond. Very moving.
I find it very telling that those conservatives who strut their patriotism and pride in American ideals have so little confidence that the American justice system will work
That is an amazing story! Always good info from Dr.Gupta!
@Susan Spaulding It's fair for Randi Kaye to hold Secy. Sebelius accountable for a panel convened by HHS. I do believe panel member do have extensive medical and public health qualifications though as far as I can tell there is indeed not Oncologist or Radiologist on the panel now. I think the panel comes together and has done so for almost a couple decades now.
Pt about route of appeal is important. How would military tribunals do that? Pres and Attorney Gen. seeming to guarantee a conviction could be compromising. I feel challenges at this pt aren't so much political football but are thrusts back and forth in earnest.
Erica,
As a health care provider, i must say that the best thing our congress can do to stem the cost of health care is to eliminate the advertisements from drug companies and to make the current health insurers more accountable for our health. The cost of health care lies in the hands of insurance companies and drug companies. Did you know that the United States and New Zealand are the only two countries in the WORLD that allow drug companies to advertise like they do. Also, with all of the insurance companies trying to maximize their profits, they have become the ones who tell doctors and patients what can be used for everyone. Why go to medical school if an insurance company is going to tell you what you can write? That is where health care reform needs to focus!! Please share this. I am on the front lines of health care and these points are of most concern for all of us. The only problem is that drug companies and insurances own our senators and representatives. Change is desperately needed!! Thanks
P.S. Cialis has given a porcelain tub bad name.
I don't think the trials will be in NYC unless the terrorists want them to be. It would be too easy to argue that an impartial jury can't be seated in NYC.
Erica, thank you so much for filling in for Anderson. You did a terrific job with the Gloria Steinem interview, and I think you're a top-notch anchor and love to see you in the chair when AC can't be there. You're the best.
Hi everyone,
Happy Thanksgiving week!
Love,
Mindy
@Anne Toronto, Canada
Well stated!!
@Mike, formerly from Syracuse are you serious...they already said they regardless of the verdict they won't go free.....
Hi, everyone – better late than never!
The validity of our entire system of justice cannot be applied selectively just because the defendant is full of venom. So what if these 9/11 defendants want to rant about the US. Aren't we better than that? It's just precious that Cheney weighs in on this... just precious.
We have wasted loads of tax $ and reputation holding these criminals at Gitmo. They should be tried as fast as we arrest them in civilian or military courts either open or closed court in chambers. We have done it before with great success. Britain, Spain among other countries try them in civilian courts. Why make them feel special? We are doing exactly what they want to feel. Kill their ego by trying them as normal criminals and move on to the next chapter!
If any of them go free Holder and Obama belong in GITMO.
Aww Erica we have missed you! Good to see Randi Kaye too!
Did it ever dawn on anybody that by continuing to drag this whole trial issue on and on and on (thank you Deck Cheney) that we're doing a dis-service to the families and friends of those who died on 9/11? How utterly selfish.
Even if they are said to be not guilty, it's been said that they will not be set free.
All medical tests and procedures should be reviewed for effectiveness–with the goal of achieving better medical outcomes. When controversial recommendations are made, a process needs to be put in place to bring subject matter experts to the table to agree on any formal recommendations. The panel serves an important role to initiate the discussion, but the decision shouldn't end there on controversial issues.
My mom was diagnosed with breast cancer and died at age 34. That was in the 60s before mammograms. I was 10 years old. There was no history of cancer in the family. One of my co workers is battling breast cancer at this moment and she is under 40. Thank goodness she has health insurance . That alone makes me question the so called data this study is based on. It is clear that this report has nothing to do
with saving lives just saving the insurance companies money.
@Jeffrey Tobin, these terrorists could have their say on the witness stand in a military tribunal too. The rules for evidence are less severe in military tribunals, and security can be maintained for secrets.
I am tired of hearing from Mr. Cheney. He and his boss had 7 yrs. to take care of this problem their way....they Didn't.
So Mr. Cheney should stay out of this administration's plans to Deal with the problems that He & Bush left behind unsolved.
I have very mixed feelings about a "trial" especially in NYC, But these issues need to be resolved somehow and Soon.
If Wars are between countries, which country are we at war with?
The USPSTF has been around for 25 years, this task force has many recommendations, from Alcohol abuse to vision screening. CNN is not correct in its reporting on the USPSTF breast cancer screening recommendations. Why is CNN making the breast cancer screening recommendations more important than any other recommendation provided by the USPSTF for the past 25 years? Science has been the guide behind these recommendations, not politics or cost! Breast Cancer screening has become marketable and profitable, so it is a shame that these recommendations (Breast Cancer Screening) are being used by misinformed news organizations (CNN) and politicians. Women need to talk with their physicians about the harm and benefit of having mammograms and keep misinformed news organizations and politicians out of science based recommendations.
I'm glad I don't live in NYC. I think those trials will be a circus. I wonder what secrets will be exposed.
Holding a civilian trial for an act of war is just asking for trouble.
Recommendations as to the effectiveness of particular medical tests, drugs, or procedures is not the "beginning" of health care rationing–rationing has always been done by the insurance companies. The question is whether it is better to have rationing imposed by persons looking primarily at effectiveness or by an insurance cmpany that evaluates cost as being as equally or more important than results and that also has a profit motive in the resulting decision.
Ms Healy makes a good pt, if the US is leading in treating and diagnosing cancer then possibly that part of healthcare is working well.
Ok yes, there is a minefield sort of as you and Tom Foreman are discussing. But if you strip the legislation down to the increases in medicaid and medicare accessibility that are there I think in all the dem versions of this, and requiring ins companies to insure people w/ preexisting conditions you have something where both parties can come together.
Some incredibly lucky Rhodes scholars.
England healthcare system rocks, man the doctor even come to your home and you do not pay out of pocket, since it's single payer, and it came out of taxes. We have a total mess here in the U.S.! Someone even come out and cooks, and cleans for you, and does your laundry for you and baby sit too! We are so far behind the time with that sorry argument of socialism. Almost every thing in the U.S. is socialism, like the police, the U.S. military, Fire department, Roads, Bridges, Snow Removal and many many other. We all pay for those services out of our taxes, and guess what that is socialism!
Are we stepping back in time? This is a human right that should be covered thru our ins health reform!I have a Mother and two Sisters who are alive today because of early detection! Go find something else to cut back on! What are you afraid of ? That we won't need your high priced cancer drugs! I am sickened by the thought of this sick idea!
One of the problems in government is that they don't designate enough funding to audit programs & task forces that they set up. I'm an accountant and it blows my mind how irresponsible this is, private businesses would not survive if they operated in this manner. Medicare is a mess because they are not audited for errors, they could create a lot of jobs by hiring the necessary auditors and overseers as they do in private business and they would save billions.
I’m sick and tired of the Republicans they should live this country because in my opinion they do not care about the citizen of this country, we need a PUBLIC OPTION this will make the insurance company’s comparative we are so close to get it done but they just looking for all kind of excuses I’m done with them and they way they think,
It sounds like the movie "Awake".
Scary to know that you can hear them but not respond...locked in.
I hope non of those people said anything bad around him...he will know.
Question
Health care bill. You have pointed out problems with the bill that is in congress now. You have said that certain things are not covered in this new bill. My question to you is the people in congress have health coverage now because of the federal jobs. Are the congress men and women covered under the federal insurance program ? If the new health insurance coverage is not the same or better then the federal employees then all federal coverage should be terminated, until a comprise is reached. After all the tax payers are footing the bill now.
Shannon,
This report took 16moths to compile. How was it constituted by Obama? Truth be told.
breast cancer is better detected with ultra sound, and if a cancer is detected through mamogram, an ultra sound is done. in other countries like england that have public heathcare only use ultrasounds. i refuse to get a mamogram, for 2 reasons the barbaric tratment and the fact that it gets alot of false negitives. well we are only women, we are use to abuse by men. as far as i am concerned the medical community is against wellness, they dont make money if u are well
Tisk tisk Mr.Sanperv