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October 8th, 2009
09:45 PM ET

Live Blog from the Anchor Desk 10/08/09

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Tonight, new signs that U.S. Congressman Charles Rangel, D-N.Y., could be headed for trouble. He’s accused of playing fast and loose with his own taxes. We’ll also take a closer look at why many gay Americans are disappointed in President Obama. Has he broken his promises on same-sex marriage, “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” and more? We’ve also been digging on a story that’s put a spotlight on an obscure subgenre of rap music called “Horrorcore.” It’s violent and steeped in grotesque imagery. But did it lead a young California man to murder four people?

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  1. Isabel Siaba, Brazil

    I have a young son. Such scenes frighten me! What discontent for a mother!

    October 8, 2009 at 10:50 pm |
  2. Jo Ann, North Royalton, Ohio

    The Insane Clown Posse has had a rep for awhile.

    October 8, 2009 at 10:50 pm |
  3. Cessy, Chicago IL

    sounds like this guy has been brewing anger for a long time now...

    October 8, 2009 at 10:49 pm |
  4. Emily

    "Psycho Sam"!!!!
    Did no one get this kid help?!?!!!

    He called Himself "Psycho Sam"?
    OMG! There is a Huge, Flashing Neon sign right there!!!!

    October 8, 2009 at 10:49 pm |
  5. Jacqueline

    If the FBI did that people would complain and claim it's Big Brother. It might help but some people wouldn't see it that way

    October 8, 2009 at 10:48 pm |
  6. Antonia-Oakland,California

    @Erica- This music is such a bad influence for the next generation to come. Hopefully in the near future this type of music would end!

    October 8, 2009 at 10:48 pm |
  7. Kelly - Harrisburg, PA

    Was the music just the medium he chose to share what was going on in his head? like his manifesto? Writing it is different than listening to it.

    Was he using drugs?

    October 8, 2009 at 10:48 pm |
  8. Michael

    Music is not what causes people to perform criminal acts. Psycho Sam must've been a psycho to start with. There is far worse music out there than horrorcore, but not all of the listeners commit criminal acts.

    October 8, 2009 at 10:48 pm |
  9. Michael Dick, MD

    The guy who took LSD and tried to fly thought about flying before he took acid. The guy who heard creepy music and killed someone is a sociopath and probably a paranoid schizophrenic who thought about it before he heard the creepy music.

    October 8, 2009 at 10:48 pm |
  10. Rafael Zamora, Fl

    Don't worry Erica the percentage of people that end up liking this music is very slim but coverage like this is not only opening eyes to those who need to know like parents such as yourself and I but also to those like our children.

    October 8, 2009 at 10:48 pm |
  11. Cessy, Chicago IL

    Anderson...what is going on in our world? people getting punished for telling the truth, teen violence and now we are rewarding more of Vick's negative behavior? and other disturbing things..I dont get it...

    October 8, 2009 at 10:48 pm |
  12. Chris Sosa - Boston, MA

    People often don't realize the difference between bands like Marilyn Manson (who use irony and "horrific" imagery to make an opposing social statement which is often not in fact at all violent) and horrorcore groups who wantonly promote/endorse violent behavior to disturbed teens.

    October 8, 2009 at 10:48 pm |
  13. Jo Ann, North Royalton, Ohio

    Gary can handle any story on any subject! This story is bizarre and troubling, but it is important to expose this trash.

    Great job (again) by Gary!

    October 8, 2009 at 10:47 pm |
  14. David, Indiana

    Hi Isabel, I missed you last night.

    I disagree with those kids in Chicago, they do need to contact police when they see a crime in progress, but what they have to say indicates police in Chicago need to build trust in communities affected by this violence. Is there a crime hotline that can be called?

    Though my first thought is that there is so much on the President's plate that it's not surprising that there has not be at this pt follow thru on don't ask don't tell, employment discrimination, acknowledgment of same sex unions, Cleve Jones is right the govt. does need to be prodded. Thos

    October 8, 2009 at 10:47 pm |
  15. Emily

    I'm sure that you are a very good mother Erica, and your son would never succumb to the lyrics of a song!

    I'd bet that this "murderer" that Anderson & Gary are talking about is lacking support in other ways in his life!! ...and I'm not a gambler!

    October 8, 2009 at 10:47 pm |
  16. starr, formerly known as vincent

    I forgot to say, thank you Gary Tuchman for another unusal story. Great reporting as always.

    October 8, 2009 at 10:47 pm |
  17. Shawn Hendricks - Fairplay, MD

    I wonder if the FBI could monitor the Internet for pre-murderous domestic psychos with the same tools they use to search for domestic and foreign terrorists.

    October 8, 2009 at 10:47 pm |
  18. Michael

    Instead of horror core music prompting people to murder, maybe it's just that some of those who are murderous are drawn to that type of music.

    October 8, 2009 at 10:47 pm |
  19. Jacqueline

    I don't think that it's horrible for people to listen to this form of music (though I don't know why you would want to) but if this kid was making up his own music he clearly had some sick fantasies in his head. Now I'm not saying that anyone with weird fantasies is a criminal: look and Stephen King, but why was this kid not noticed before he killed someone?

    October 8, 2009 at 10:46 pm |
  20. Maritza

    Is time to hold Obama accountable. Thanks for reporting on this Anderson

    October 8, 2009 at 10:46 pm |
  21. Mike, Syracuse, NY

    Remember when Alice Cooper was viewed as bad?

    October 8, 2009 at 10:45 pm |
  22. Jo Ann, North Royalton, Ohio

    I think crap like "Horrorcore" does attract troubled kids, but again it goes back to how these kids were raised.

    October 8, 2009 at 10:45 pm |
  23. Rick

    The whole murder thing is just nutz. There are twisted people in the world. Put him in jail for ever, give the death penalty, or hand him over to the next of kin and move on….

    October 8, 2009 at 10:45 pm |
  24. BettyAnn, Nacogdoches,TX

    Disappointed about Pres Obama and gay rights.
    About that murderer, I think anyone who lives on the dark side listens to dark messages and seeks them.

    October 8, 2009 at 10:45 pm |
  25. Tabitha

    Music doesn't make people do these horrible things. When people do this, it means there is already something very wrong with them. The music may push them the rest of the way, but there has to be something horrible already there.

    October 8, 2009 at 10:44 pm |
  26. Emily

    @ Lori from IL,
    Thanks for the info!
    I'll check that out later on! 🙂

    October 8, 2009 at 10:44 pm |
  27. ericacnn

    Such a disturbing story from Gary on "horror core". I hope my son never becomes a fan of this violent music.

    October 8, 2009 at 10:44 pm |
  28. Lori from IL

    Thought the segment with Clive Jones was very good. I think he has the right idea about rallying the "troops" and sending them back to their local congressmen/women and state governments to encourage action. Sounds like he has a well thought out plan of action - I wish him much success.

    October 8, 2009 at 10:43 pm |
  29. starr, formerly known as vincent

    Well, this type of music is new to me.

    The lyrics are really disgusting and disturbing. I think it is very possible that this music could have contributed to the murders.

    However, there has to be something else wrong with any individual who would carry out these horrrendous murders.

    October 8, 2009 at 10:43 pm |
  30. Chris Sosa - Boston, MA

    I actually am aware of horrorcore music. Mainstream acts such as Insane Clown Posse make a living out of it, but even more concerning are superstar acts like Eminem embracing the disturbing genre and propagating it to teens with radio airplay of these bands' more innocuous songs.

    October 8, 2009 at 10:43 pm |
  31. Cessy, Chicago IL

    Great report Mr. Tuchman!

    October 8, 2009 at 10:43 pm |
  32. Pippa

    Legally married just three weeks ago to my same sex partner, I am hopeful that we will obtain equal civil rights in our life time. For now we are legal in only 5 states, our own not included. But with each state that decides to stand on the side of love, our love matters that much more. Thanks Anderson, for covering our news too.

    October 8, 2009 at 10:43 pm |
  33. Ruth - Los Angeles

    first of all that "psycho sam" does not look like an average young man..he is the prime example of what is wrong with society today! This is what happens when people have nothing better to do! What the heck is Horrorcore anyways?! Again, people having too much time on their hands!! That's a shame that it's cost those people's lives!

    October 8, 2009 at 10:43 pm |
  34. Megan Dresslar - Shoreline, WA

    I am so sad for him, I am really shock what rapper was so hate, I don't like to hate people, That is not right for him to kill people and hater crime. I am glad he is right now in jail.

    October 8, 2009 at 10:42 pm |
  35. Emily, Farmville Va

    Music doesn't make anyone do anything. Something was seriously wrong with this kid before he killed anyone. Not only did he kill them, but he lived in the house with their decomposing bodies. That goes way beyond anything music could drive anyone to do. These murders have rocked my town and I don't think that music is to be blamed, the sicko that did it is.

    October 8, 2009 at 10:42 pm |
  36. Cessy, Chicago IL

    Glad to hear that this guys is behind bars...any info on this guys mental history? He's all smiles while handcuffed- this should give people a clue.

    October 8, 2009 at 10:42 pm |
  37. Osa

    Don't we have a more pressing issues,two war, the economic ,the time to take care of the issue will come

    October 8, 2009 at 10:41 pm |
  38. Emily

    OMG, another murderer....I don't think of a second that "the music made him do it"!!!

    There has to be other 'issues' that are far deeper with someone to go out and commit murder! It's not a simple as music. The answer is not that easy, that simplistic!

    October 8, 2009 at 10:41 pm |
  39. Casey Jones - Palm Springs, CA

    "Jesus Told Me To Do It,"....Great, another religious fanatic who thinks he's got a hot line to Jesus.

    October 8, 2009 at 10:41 pm |
  40. Danielle - Long Beach, CA

    Everyone says art imitates life until something bad happens then the art is the blame. Let's just face it this Psyco Sam character has a problem.

    Who in their right minds let's some stranger they met on the internet come stay at their home?

    October 8, 2009 at 10:41 pm |
  41. Rick

    Is it simply the word MARRAGE???? Do gay people care if it’s Marriage or a Civil Union? If it’s recognized as the same thing and offer same benefits/rights than move on to other more important issues.

    October 8, 2009 at 10:40 pm |
  42. Jacqueline

    I'm sure president Obama is getting around to it, frankly even with the house majority these are difficult things to pass, elections are coming up don't forget and the congressmen all have to get re-elected and some of them are in areas where people aren't so pro gay

    October 8, 2009 at 10:40 pm |
  43. Kelly - Harrisburg, PA

    Okay, I'm totally creeped out by that music... glad it stopped...

    October 8, 2009 at 10:40 pm |
  44. Jo Ann, North Royalton, Ohio

    Why is anyone surprised at "Horrorcore?" It is just the logical next step after hip-hop and gangsta rap. These trash "entertainers" always need to push the envelope even farther to get attention.

    October 8, 2009 at 10:40 pm |
  45. Jennifer

    Gay rights is one thing I have been disappointed in Obama on. Obviously, he has a balancing act to maintain with the right and he wouldn't want to step on too many toes at once. I expected him to repeal don't ask don't tell almost immediately, and the hate crime classification and equal employment are just obviously right.

    October 8, 2009 at 10:38 pm |
  46. gail

    Well it's not like he has nothing else to do. 2 wars,economy in the toilet,health care reform, middle east peace talks, Iran, North Korea, etc, but let's complain about where we fall in the line of what's on the President plate? I support equal rights, but All the folks that expect for the President to have solved their particular problems in 8 months time really irk me.

    October 8, 2009 at 10:37 pm |
  47. Emily

    DADT may not be the best policy that there is, however gays are able to serve in the Military if they don't say anything about their sexuality. NO one should be talking about their sex lives in the Military!!! Yous are fighting for your country. 'War is ugly!" ...not sexy.

    Obama has a lot of other things to do @ this very time. I don't think this issue is #1.

    As for gay marriage, why is that not a State issue?

    October 8, 2009 at 10:37 pm |
  48. starr, formerly known as vincent

    I agree with the gentleman who you are interviewing.

    He is absolutely right. It has been too long for Gays & Lesbians to gain their well deserved civil rights.

    The people work, pay their state and Federal Taxes. They follow all the laws. & Pres. Obama Did promise that he would change this very unfair situation.

    Gasy & Lesbian are human beings, just like us and deserve their civil rights under the law!

    October 8, 2009 at 10:36 pm |
  49. Cessy, Chicago IL

    Dont ask, Dont tell..what does this have to do with fighting for your country/ freedom?

    October 8, 2009 at 10:36 pm |
  50. Tabitha

    I do not believe in gay marriage, but I do think that 'don't ask, don't tell' is ridiculous. Anyone who wants to serve in the military should be able to do it. And they should not be discriminated against in the work place and violence against them should be a criminal act. That's just good sense.

    October 8, 2009 at 10:35 pm |
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