August 31st, 2009
09:11 PM ET

Evening Buzz: Inside Jaycee Dugard’s secret backyard prison

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Cate Vojdik
AC360° Writer

We’re keeping a close eye on a fast-moving California wildfire that’s threatening thousands of homes and businesses outside Los Angeles—and has trapped five people who ignored evacuation orders. They’re stuck in a canyon surrounded by walls of flames. The blaze, which broke out last week, nearly doubled in size overnight. Two firefighters died battling it. We’ll have the latest tonight.

We now have a much clearer picture of what the last 18 years have been like for Jaycee Dugard, the young woman who was found last week 18 years after her kidnapping. Investigators are combing the secret backyard compound where Dugard was allegedly forced to live–and where she apparently gave birth to the two daughters her captor fathered. We’ll show you what investigators found inside the squalid makeshift compound of tents and sheds.

We’ll also hear from people who came into contact with Jaycee Dugard during her captivity. It turns out she wasn’t entirely isolated. She apparently helped Phillip Garrido run his printing business. Why didn’t outsiders suspect anything was wrong? What was their impression of the young woman? We’ll try to answer those questions tonight.

We’ve also learned that investigators are looking into whether other young victims may have fallen prey to Garrido. A short time ago, authorities said that they found a bone fragment on a neighbor’s property that Garrido allegedly used. The fragment is being tested to determine if the bone is human. Meantime, the search for more evidence continues with cadaver dogs. We’ll cover all of these angles tonight.

Plus, we’ll take a close look at the bold allegation that Britain brokered the release of the Pan Am Flight 103 bomber as part of a secret trade deal with Libya. The Times of London says it has a letter that provides proof. Tonight we’re keeping them honest.

Swine flu is also in our mix tonight. Many college campuses are already reporting outbreaks of the H1N1 virus. The University of Kansas has hundreds of suspected cases. We’ll show you what’s being done to contain the spread on that campus. Chief Medical Correspondent Sanjay Gupta will also answer your questions.

See you at 10 p.m. eastern.

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  1. Kay Stein

    I wonder... will Jaycee and her children ever be able to live a normal life. Will they ever be able to cope in a real world? 18 years is a long time but I assume Jaycee remembers her life before this crazy person stole her life from her. But what about her children. This is their father and this is the only life they have ever had. Everyone needs to pray for these three girls.

    August 31, 2009 at 11:37 pm |
  2. Yvette

    Can we see inside Garrido's house?
    Where were the girls born, and do they what is going on, and that father is a rapest?
    We pray for Jaycee and her girls and that they have a healthy wonderful life.

    August 31, 2009 at 11:35 pm |
  3. James

    I am a former Parole officer from Nevada. I supervised parolees under intensive supervision and residential confinement conditions with ankle monitors. I had sex offenders and murders on my caseload. The rule of thumb when you make a home visit to these types of parolee residence you go through the house and outling property in checking to see if there are any violations of the subject parole conditions each time you visit.. The parole agent should have done a better job years ago. I do not buy the comments that the parole agent could not see. It was simple he never looked. Our job on the streets is to look into these cases more throughly because of the criminal history of these serious offenders can never be discounted at any stage of the supervision.

    August 31, 2009 at 11:34 pm |
  4. Jim Bones

    Iwith all this girl has been through and her two girls being this mans biological children. if he owns the house and property, wouldnt her daughters get ownership of everything soon as he is convicted so they can sell it to pay for some of whatever longterm treatment they most likely will need.

    August 31, 2009 at 11:33 pm |
  5. M Howe

    The media is causing more damage to these children. I can't believe the media including Anderson Cooper is continuously saying that this girl was RAPED for 18 years. While media is cashing in on the sad sick situation of these poor victims, does anyone have enough moral fiber to say I will not victimize these people any further. RAPE is a violent word and action. Why don't these people consider the effect on these children to hear that their father continuously raped their mother. What about the effect on Jaycee to constantly hear that she was RAPED for 18 years.
    If this is what happened to Jaycee then maybe just maybe the media might want to stop RAPING her and her children and let them heal.
    Its a given that this man and his wife should be put away forever but should Jaycee and her children be persecuted, humiliated and sold out by the media in the name of Journalism and RATINGS. And please don't say it is in the good for these victims.

    August 31, 2009 at 11:31 pm |
  6. Ramona

    Re: Ms. Molino(former business client of Garrido) –Did she think that Jaycee was a daughter of the Garridos?

    Also, does she know whether or not Jaycee called Garrido "Dad" ?

    Does she know how Jaycee's daughters referred to Garrido?

    August 31, 2009 at 11:29 pm |
  7. Malinda - Everett, WA

    It must be remembered that Jaycee was under complete control and learned to cope in complete fear. Once control is established a simple tapping much like clicker training in a dog can keep her under control. With 2 captors it is very easy to establish a good guy bad guy
    routine. It's going to be tough to recover but she is tough or she would not have survived.

    August 31, 2009 at 11:26 pm |
  8. Mariam

    How did the children feel to see their mother living in a tent and their father living in a house? Where did the children sleep?

    August 31, 2009 at 11:26 pm |
  9. Patricia Plummer

    First of all, where are the birth certificates for the two little children fathered by the monster? where were they born? which hospital? And under what name? Blindness in our societies legal force is caused by nothing less then wisdom. Or should I relay a mesg. of blindness to there are too many to account for!!!

    August 31, 2009 at 11:23 pm |
  10. grace

    This woman you interviewed appears to be misdirected. She does seem to be defending Garrido Or should I say deflecting the attention away from this atrocity committed by this man who, in my opinion, should receive NO mercy, No understanding, only the worst punishment allowed by the law. Water-boarding would not be good enough.

    August 31, 2009 at 11:22 pm |
  11. Mariam

    Did she received Medical care while pregnant?

    August 31, 2009 at 11:21 pm |
  12. David Snyder

    I am completely disgusted that Anderson Cooper, whom I considered to be the last remaining legitimate newsman at CNN would allow, let alone interview, anyone who would possbile stand up for the sick, demeted, animal, Phillip Garrido. There is really only one place for Garrido and that is to spend eternity in hell!

    August 31, 2009 at 11:20 pm |
  13. Dy Wolpert

    Anderson, I treat Traumatized patients at Rader Programs. This girl needs lots of help. Please help her get the right treatment. It could be equally traumatizing to force this girl back to her family. The girl needs somone safe. The girl may view all people unsafe.

    Dy Wolpert, APRN, NP, CNS
    Rader Programs

    August 31, 2009 at 11:19 pm |
  14. Stefanie

    This horrible story that is unfolding w/ jaycee is on belief! Why was this man released after just 11 years serve for the first kidnapping? He should of stay the full 50 years. If he would of then these poor girls wouldnt of suffered! I wish the best for jaycee and her family. I wish this man and women to get the max in prison.

    August 31, 2009 at 11:19 pm |
  15. John Rodriguez

    How could Jaycee give birth to the two girls in such living conditions
    without being exposed?

    How were they educated without the authorities consenting to home
    schooling or did they attend public or private schools?

    I am sure that there is so much more to be revealed!

    August 31, 2009 at 11:18 pm |
  16. Jan Tidwell

    Dear AC: Please don't forget about the Baskin children who were abducted and brainwashed by their own grandparents back in the late 1980's from Murfreesboro, Tn and were found in Feb. 2009. These children's mother's parents were suppose to return the kids to their parents, but instead ran off with them , telling tales saying that their own daugher and her minster husband were Satanic worshipers (not true). No one has talked about this. Have the children (now adults ) seen their parents? This was on Unsolved Mysteries along time ago long before there was much cable tv , before AC360. These 2 kids were brainwashed by their own grandparents.... Jan Nashville ,TN

    August 31, 2009 at 11:17 pm |
  17. Dy Wolpert

    Anderson Cooper,

    I treat aduilts who have suffered from severe and pervasive traumas like incest, molestations, and torture. To understand how the little girl lives disavowing the painful circumstances one would have to understand the ability of a childs imagination. Jacyee may have went into her head hiding from the painful molestation/ rapes by creating an alternate selfstate called "alter personalities". Basically the "real little girl named Jaycee" hides as an 11 year old little girl inside her head and lives on the outside as the name the kidnapper gave her. The personality that now lives as a woman will disavow any problem living a normal liffe believing her reality to be what the kidnapper wants. Look up Dissociative Identity Disorder – may explain the perceptions of normalcy that everyone saw as she lived in the community.


    Dy Wolpert, APRN, NP, CNS

    August 31, 2009 at 11:15 pm |
  18. Robin Parkinson

    it's hard to listen to this ordeal. your's is the first discussion i've heard. I don't get it. would we be better off not knowing about this?

    August 31, 2009 at 11:12 pm |
  19. Sharon

    What role did the wife of Phillip Garrido play in all of this?

    August 31, 2009 at 11:10 pm |
  20. Stephanie

    An 11 year old girl was kidnapped, raped repeatedly year after year, gave birth to two children while still a minor and no one understands how the neighbours/authorities knew nothing or worse DID nothing. When 11 year old girls are forced into "marriage" raped and give birth to children while still minors WE are the neighbours who know about it and yet continue to do nothing. The only difference is the compounds in Utah (etc) are not derilict tents in a dirty backyard with one crazy beast to focus all our rage on. Do we continue to forget the other girls going thru the same thing as Jaycee Dugard did, RIGHT NOW in FLDS compounds – WE are the neighbours shown on tv, living our lives as other scared little girls cry silently.

    August 31, 2009 at 11:09 pm |
  21. Visitor

    The parole officer who appeared is not revealing the complete truth to the public or he is very naive. I live behind a sex offender's home just like that girl. Each time the officer's visit it is a very brief in and out thing as if it is a bother. I have motioned to them several times as they were pulling out of the driveway and they just ignore me. I have directly contacted the sheriff's dept. and I recieve the same treatement. Reality is officer's are paid to keep their mouth's shut so they can do whatever. This sex offender is a multiple offender who served no time in jail, is an active alcoholic, hangs around this one little girl, is gone all night all the time as he pleases, and has at least a dozen firearms displayed in his home. What is wrong with the authorities that they allow this to continue. I do not buy the excuse they are too busy to protect children and who says it has to be a child? The system regarding sex offenders needs to be revamped more than our health care system. I watch the so called customers of this animal speak as if they did not know anything but I would be watching them as well. Notice they are all young men? I don't believe them.

    August 31, 2009 at 11:04 pm |
  22. Patricia Berkoben

    I can understand how someone can be kidnapped and could be hid out for years.
    My Daughter bought a house in Paradice, Ca. and food came up missing... from all of the familys sleeping bags to pots, pans, heaters and food galore.
    There was total histeria in the house hold. All kinds of things were stolen.
    Come to find out when she moved there was a guy cleaning out the basement in the house for the realstate office . There on the lawn were the gurls dirty sleeping bags , the new pots and pans I bought her for Christmas and a heater and also all kinds of canned goods and other food they had taken.
    There were at least three guys living there ... the kids saw them and zap they would be gone. The police were even called and there was two guys in their motor home (not knowing my Granddaughter stayed home from school that day) There is a feild behind the house a the police saw them there and did nothing. They were able to see what was going on and see in the bathroom and bedrooms. When the worker showed my daughter she called the police and they wouldn't even come to look at it.
    Some police are not there to help people and there are others that are worth their weight in gold.
    Places like this need to be chcked and the people that buy the place need to be checked. There are a lot of sex affenders around there.

    August 31, 2009 at 11:03 pm |
  23. glenda Sue

    08-31-09 2009 1050 pm ET
    Understanding the magnitude of this life shattering event will never be ours as a society, but can we all learn from it? Blame and responsibility ripple outward and we have to consciously ask out loud can this never ever happen again? Can we help? Can we love enough to help healing take place? God alone sees all and knows all can we avail ourselves to devine wisdom and vision so that this world can be a better place or are we destined to slowly self destruct?

    August 31, 2009 at 11:01 pm |
  24. kevin

    Jaycee had children at age 14,as a minor, who signed the consent form when she gave birth? And when she gave birth the second time, that in itself, at that age, I find a little unusual and certainly would have sparked my interest??????

    August 31, 2009 at 10:48 pm |
  25. Dianna Alexander

    First of all, I want to say "Alissa" (Jaycee) keep your head up! Jaycee was able to survive a tragic event that lasted 18 years of her life. The Garrido's have done this young woman a cruel injustice by stripping her of a healthy life. Anyone that is capable of doing such an inhumane act deserves the maximum penalty of the law. Then with the leud act Garrido had committed a few years earlier before the abduction of Jaycee should not unnoticed. It is obvious that something is not clicking correctly within this individual.

    August 31, 2009 at 10:47 pm |
  26. clint

    maybe she was just waiting for the right time and place to to turn him in, and it sounds like to me she did it. she wanted a place to be safe and for her girls to be safe as well, God Bless her

    August 31, 2009 at 10:42 pm |
  27. Sally Brown

    Did Jaycee have a medical person to deliver her children

    August 31, 2009 at 10:40 pm |
  28. Bonnie

    That is something I hadn't thought of as a reason for her loyalty (if you will) to that monster which I agree totally

    August 31, 2009 at 10:39 pm |
  29. George Onmonya Daniel

    The whole thing is a bizzare. This kind of terrible crime is not common in Nigeria. I really feel sorry for her father and mother and for her children. It is a heart broken story, but we should be glad she survived.

    August 31, 2009 at 10:35 pm |
  30. Jaime Beard

    I take exception to this Molina woman who seems to be defending this kidnapper and rapist. Just becaues he has a big house? And the young girls seem to be clean and well dressed?? These are not Antioch values. Why was this woman willing to overlook the strange behavior that was so obvious to the Berkeley police? There is a claim of racial discrimination against the Antioch Police Department by many new residents of this city. Is it possible that this woman – who called herself a VICTIM during your story – was too self absorbed in her own victimhood to empathize with three white girls who have been raped and victimized themselves? This is a problem in Antioch that you should be looking at.

    August 31, 2009 at 10:34 pm |
  31. David

    I think that it was wrong of the guy for doing this as well as the children for not alerting outside people. If it was me I would have ran no matter what. aren't I right?

    August 31, 2009 at 10:32 pm |
  32. carolyn

    Jaycee and her children have a long road to recovery from the sick and twisted mind that controlled thier lives. I am quick to assume his molestations extended to the small children as well. May God stay close give these three the strength needed to grow.

    August 31, 2009 at 10:31 pm |
  33. Lois M. Wilson

    Two police officers were suspicious, but how did they come in contact with him to start with?

    August 31, 2009 at 10:30 pm |
  34. Lois M. Wilson

    How did he get caught, I don't believe he walked in and turned himself in unless, he knew they were on to him.

    August 31, 2009 at 10:29 pm |
  35. Joan Neal

    Their is so much forcus on Phillip, his wife is as guilty, why not mention her on the news. How long has he been married to his wife?

    This story is so upsetting, I fear for every little girl, blond hair blue or brown eyes. I cannot sleep, angry angry. If some high official daughter is kidnapped then I bet the laws will changed. Sex offender's do not change. Their has to be stricker laws for these people.

    Thank you

    August 31, 2009 at 10:28 pm |
  36. Deb

    Jaycee's story makes my stomach hurt every time I think about it. Every detail of this story is gut-wrenching and totally unbelievable if not for the pictures and reports.

    How many other women or children are out there like this poor woman and her children.....Please law enforcement and child protective services...do your job and find them!! Neighbors, report suspicious behavior and then follow up to be sure your report has been acted upon!!

    August 31, 2009 at 10:26 pm |
  37. barb

    This man is a dispicable piece of human trash. He should never see the light of day again. Anyone who interviews him is only helping his sick mind.

    August 31, 2009 at 10:20 pm |
  38. Susan Alexander

    I have a question. What kind of prenatal care did Jaycee receive and where did she deliver her babies? I really hope and pray that this young woman and her children will receive the love and support they need to heal from this horrifying injustice.

    August 31, 2009 at 10:19 pm |
  39. Debra Kay

    Thank God for Anderson Cooper for keepin it real! Thanks for interviewing that last woman you had on there in a way that showed she wasn't defending that man and woman who abducted that young girl.

    August 31, 2009 at 10:17 pm |
  40. Kendall in Virginia

    Just wondering what the wife's roll was in this despicable situation. How long have they been married? How screwed up is she? As bad as her husband evidently.

    August 31, 2009 at 10:17 pm |
  41. Debra Kay

    Good Grief, that woman is minimizing what that NUT done. I'm glad she re canted on defending him, because that was exactly what she was saying in the beginning.

    August 31, 2009 at 10:16 pm |
  42. holly

    anderson cooper is hot

    August 31, 2009 at 10:16 pm |
  43. Patricia Sutherland

    will we here from jaycee herself or the daughters in this horrific situation and what is the wife of this monster saying

    August 31, 2009 at 10:16 pm |
  44. Shelly

    Why is no one asking about Garrido's wife and her part in all this?

    And even I know that Garrido probably used the girls as leverage against Jaycee and that's why he took them everywhere.

    August 31, 2009 at 10:13 pm |
  45. Betty

    I would like to know about the wife of this animal, what part did she play in this?

    August 31, 2009 at 10:10 pm |
  46. Al Zanca

    This is an unbelievable story but what I want to know is who delivered the children when they were born ?

    August 31, 2009 at 10:10 pm |
  47. sue maloney

    At a town hall meeting on health care in Petaluma CA. Press should cover these more people are very upset. Both sides. Press needs to really see what is going on. This country is Very divided.

    August 31, 2009 at 9:49 pm |
  48. Eugenia - San Francisco

    my god, who is the woman on the live feed, i can't hear but I feel like someone needs to hold her or comfort her.

    August 31, 2009 at 9:02 pm |
  49. sharon, sydney, ns

    Re: the people stuck in the fire: I hope they are ok, but I don't get why they didn't go. If the officials say "Get out of Dodge", then you get out of Dodge. Is it the possiblitly of looting? Heck, they could rob my house blind, as long as my family and I were safe. Did they think "oh, it won't touch us"? Mother Nature" decides how any kind of storm or fire will pan out, no one can predict it. It's a shame they didn't listen to the warning.

    August 31, 2009 at 8:55 pm |
  50. Annie Kate

    Looking forward to the segments on Jaycee and her 18 years as captive of that man. I have been wondering what she was told that kept her from leaving. I'm sure some of the reason she stayed was her children – it would be harder to escape with them in tow and I doubt she would leave them.

    August 31, 2009 at 8:35 pm |
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