August 13th, 2009
05:50 PM ET

Evening Buzz: Beyond all that shouting

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Suvro Banerji
AC360° Intern

For the past couple of weeks, we have seen so many ordinary Americans aggravated by the health care reform bill. We have shown you the protests and the frustration during the town hall meetings. Tonight, though, we will look beyond all that anger and instead, directly reach out to those who frankly aren’t happy. Is this really about health care reform or something else? Uncovering America, Tom Foreman talks with some of the protestors.

The Tea Party Express is organizing more than 30 rallies across the country, opposing the President's reform plans. Mark Williams, one of the key players of the campaign will join us to tell us what he’s trying to accomplish.

Also tonight, we look at Citigroup, a recipient of a massive bailout money under the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) reportedly asking to write a bonus check for a $100 million dollars to a single employee. But didn't the Obama administration put restrictions on executive compensation earlier this year? Ali Velshi has the details in tonight’s your money, your future report.

Plus, new video of the mid-air collision over New York’s Hudson River offer stunning new perspective on the accident.

And we will show you a tragic story of a man who suffered an irreparable loss. A Palestine doctor lost three of his daughters and his niece in an Israeli shelling attack. But Dr. Izzeldin Abuelaish is not filled with hate.. He’s appealing for peace between Israelis and Palestinians. Christiane Amanpour has his story in tonight’s 360° Dispatch. Dr. Abuelaish also joins us to talk about his foundation, ‘Daughters for Life” and his message to Israelis and Palestinians who feel violence is the only way to resolve the conflict.

All these stories and much more tonight on 360° at 10pm ET. See you then!

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  1. Bruce

    I keep hearing all the negative feedback about health care reform. The accusations of government bureaucrats are going to run the health care system are not accurate. Currently the health care insurance companies are being run by bureaucrats with MBA degrees and they do not want to change anything so they can keep their profit margins up.

    The President wants to change the system we have and it seem those inside the current system will do anything they can to prevent change from happening. Can you say they want to keep ripping off the country with no regulations just like Wall street and the banks did.

    Those in the health care field in general just want to make money.

    It took an act of Congress to force the health care companies to change the cap they put on mental health hospitalization. Why was it in place? Because they could not maintain a profit on insuring people with mental health issues who sometimes need to be hospitalized for more than 30 days in a year. I know I have had to deal with all of these issues. Some of these like Bipolar disorder are caused by chemical imbalances just like diabetes. They just result in a mental health issue instead of physical symptoms.

    Why is America the only industrialized nation in the world the only country that does not have a universal health care system. Because the health care insurance companies are making money off the system the way it is and they do not want anything changed. With all these groups opposing health care when are we going to find out who is financing them. I would not be surprised if the money trail goes back to the insurance companies and backers of the Republican party who want to cloud the issue so they can maintain the status quo. Wake up America please.

    August 14, 2009 at 10:36 am |
  2. Geoff (pronounced Jeff) Kempster

    I live in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada and like many Canadians, I wonder what all of the fuss is about in your country. I suggest that Americans consider the following questions calmly and rationally:

    1) If you don't trust the Government to run a national health care system for you, who do you trust? Those who, legitimately enough, are in business first and foremost to make money or someone who needs your support to stay in office? Has business always done the right thing? If so, why the bailouts?

    2) What do you gain by pointing fingers at other countries' health care systems when your own system is the most expensive per person in the world without being anywhere near the best in the world despite the fact that American health care professionals are indeed second to none? Maybe a purely American solution to get the best out of the tremendous talent in your country for everybody without bankrupting anybody is the way to go. Whatever you choose, make sure that it works for everyone by monitoring it in a multipartisan way. Everyone, rich or poor, is eventually going to die. Keeping people alive and well as long as possible is the surest way to get the most out of productive members of society. Money and politics should have little to do with it.

    3) What will happen if all you do is to obstruct necessary change? Watch your economy fall apart? Undermine the competive position of all of your import/export businesses? Convince the rest of the free world that America is such a political basket case that it should be shunned? Effectively ignore the very real problems of those Americans less fortunate than you? How will these outcomes help you or your country? Perhaps you should broaden your focus a little. After all, there is nothing etched in stone that says the U.S. has to be Number One, is there? Or is this view just a smug habit?

    August 14, 2009 at 8:16 am |
  3. Tammie R Guilford

    I'm so sick of southern white people who lost or did not vote for Obama show how racist and stupid are country is, no wonder everybody hates us!! AND as for Palin being president I'm born and raised in alaska and I would not vote for her if my country depended on it!! I am ashamed to be an american and and a black american at that. We are hypocrites and we deserve what we get from other nations! We are are still looking at color! Don't fool yourself this is not about healthcare it's about BLACK and RACISITS WHITES BOTTOM LINE!!!!!! I HATE THE SOUTH!!!!!!

    August 14, 2009 at 5:27 am |
  4. tony

    The problems the Dems have is that the major news organizations are either in bed with the conservative loonitic fringe, or they are afraid of them. When Dan Rather didn't check his source good enough all media outlets went into a feeding frenzy. That was big news. When Sarah Palin, Newt, Grassley, Limbaugh, Beck, and Hannity tell their lies over & over (despite how easily they can be de-bunked) to drum up hatred THAT'S NEWS TOO, and that's much worse than anything Rather did. So for the good of this country these lieing loonitics must be called out, held responsibe, and ostrasized by any journalist who gives a crap about integrety in your profession. So why the hell don't you candyasses start doing your job so "WE THE PEOPLE" can trust what we see or hear on tv or radio is true, the way it used to be..

    August 14, 2009 at 4:43 am |
  5. Imsadd

    Arland as an informed citizen of the USA you are probably aware that obama used the comparison of fed ex and ups and how they are doing so well against the us post office, does that tell you how well health care by the govnt will be run?

    August 14, 2009 at 3:46 am |
  6. Vivian

    I just want a question answered. Just one that will be answered by someone who knows what they are talking about.

    Will American citizens living outside the US who are 65 years old have some coverage under Medicare that they are denied where they live now? Not many can afford flying to the US to get procedures performed.

    CNN may use my email address to answer this question. There are over 1 million Americans with homes outside the US and that number is growing fast. So, no BS please. We need to know. And, no, most of us are not dishonest, so that answer is unacceptable.

    August 14, 2009 at 3:23 am |
  7. Arland

    I read a comment from Denise which compared the "likely" problems of health care with the US postal service and it's competitors UPS and FEDEX. She asked if we would like health care to be comparable to the US postal service which is continually having problems compared to FEDEX and UPS. I would like to ask Denise to try to send a letter across the country via FEDEX or UPS for $0.42. Seriously, do people even think before they write this crap?

    August 14, 2009 at 3:07 am |
  8. dallen

    What is the problem as long as their is life on this planet health care is needed.

    This bill will create on going jobs in the health care industry and many other industries will benefit. Everybody deserves to be healthy.

    Several years ago we didn't have health insurance my wife had a spot on the tip of her middle toe. The spot started out about the size of the period on a keyboard.

    I took her to the hospital, reduced clinic and the free clinic for many months.

    With out insurance this is what we got , advise from the hospital but no real treatment and occasional pills. We got pills from the reduced clinic and pills from the free clinic never any real treatment.

    This is what my wife got , a toe amputated, then a below the knee amputation and staff infection that almost took her life.

    Better health care makes better healthier americans at any costs. it's as simple as that.

    August 14, 2009 at 2:51 am |
  9. SS

    I have a friend who has been dealing with a medical problem now for 21 years. The System has taken all of his money.

    Now is Father passed one year ago leaving him everything he has in his Will. Now lawyers and his fathers ex wife of 10 years divorce have him in court and are trying to take everything from him.

    I guess wills and beneficiarys mean nothing in this country anymore either.

    He could use the money his father left him for healthcare.

    August 14, 2009 at 2:48 am |
  10. Imsadd

    Dee, look at what your hero has spent in his 8 months in office, nobody has won, we have all lost

    August 14, 2009 at 2:43 am |
  11. Tranese C.

    concerning healthcare: firstly, why is it that when President Bush was lying to us about WAR and spending billions a day, or week (aprx.) no one wanted to say a word to him, or about him? Now we have a President that wants to help people and provide healthcare for those some 47 million who DO NOT have healthcare, and all people can say is that he wants us to live in a 'socialist society'. The red scare, use fear to drive and control people. And as for the government controling everything: IF President Barack had not given monies to these companies that experts said if they had toppled our economy would have been worse off, then what? He would have been credited for not doing anything. But now that he tried to help and give these companies (which I do not agree with fully) money he is the bad guy and wants the governemnt to own everything!!?? People, wake up. Use your brains. Think for yourselves. And don't continue to be forcefed 'truth', which really is not truth when forced down.

    August 14, 2009 at 2:42 am |
  12. Gary Ryan

    What happened to government of the people;by the people;and for the people ? All of the democrats ,including the president and Nancy Pelosi
    and Mr.Reid seem to be bent on destroying this country.If they allow citi- group to give one hundred million dollars to Mr.Hall for a job well done
    they should be so ashamed on letting that happen that the country should expect their resignations tomorrow.keep it up;the government is not listening to the people.
    the brits didn't listen a long time ago .the world saw what happened..we the people are so disillusioned and being lied to that the American revolution could happen again.This is a democracy and not a dictatorship.that hundred million could be spent to benefit the entire country and not for the benefit one man.

    August 14, 2009 at 2:40 am |
  13. E C Joseph

    After the cold war America helped Russia.Now Russia is not having
    all the problems America is having.Democracy is at work in America.All the fringe whackoos are allowed to spew their venom either as talk show hosts or at these town hall meetings and demonstrations.
    Obama should quit like Palin did and let the Rush Limbaugh's and all the conservatives that allowed Bush to sink the country take over.There are too many greedy people in America....companies are laying off employees while others want to pay out big bonuses.
    Let Russia or China take over the country,that is the only way out of this mess.Putin might be the best leader available for America.Siberia might florish with all his detractors working together there.

    August 14, 2009 at 2:39 am |
  14. Ileana Mendez

    I think that the whole fear of socialism is just a foolish idea. Many countries have this system and its nothing close to socialism. I feel that nothing is going to be able to get resolved because the government has not been able to show that what they are doing is effective.

    August 14, 2009 at 2:32 am |
  15. john

    For the first time I saw you realize that the Tea Party people are real people. Thank you. Why are people Angry. Tell the people you are going to cut medicare by half a trillion dollars but yet give them better care.Promise us change but sign a stimulus bill into law without reading it only to find out later on all the waste in it. I can go on but my biggest problem with all of this is if I disagree with the President I am now a racist. This has been fueled by CNN. I try to get all views by watching fox, cnn, msnbc, cnbc. I watch 4-5 hours of news a day and I believe I am pretty well informed.Don`t try to marinalize citizens in this country and promote talking down to us. The american people are smarter than you think. One last thing. The new phrase for telling a lie is to misspeak. Wait til your own kids use that against you.

    August 14, 2009 at 2:27 am |
  16. saman

    I have been following the recent Health Care Issue and all the protests that is following after. What is most apparent in this whole scenario is the tug of war ensuing between the democrats and the republicans. When will we think of ourselves as a nation collectively and not some elementary school kids squabbling around. Its high time to think about this issue.

    August 14, 2009 at 2:23 am |
  17. Susan

    Why do you keep showing the same negative, angry crowds at these town hall meetings..every night? These people do not represent the United States of America. They are a small minority. There does not seem to be anyone but white people at these meetings...I am white also, by the way. There is no representation of the majority of our country. They only care about there own lousy healthcare plan. (The same lousy plan that I have.)

    Why not do some informative reporting beyond these meetings...provide facts....like who is pouring money into the negative advertising against change. Explain what Medicare is...a goverment run program. Especially to those who don't want the government meddeling in their healthcare. Start naming Republicans and Democrats who are closley tied to the industry and why they are against changing out healthcare system. Spell out the plan in clear terms, instead of focusing on these ridiculous meetings. Keep us "informed" with facts and stop giving these right wing extemists a place to grandstand. Stop giving them attention, they are not helping our country....look at the escalation of extremist groups.

    August 14, 2009 at 2:21 am |
  18. Tina

    I liken the healthcare bailout issue to a shoplifter. If the shoplifter steals from Walmart & is not caught, the replacement costs are passed down to consumer. This is exactly what's happening now in USA from people who cannot afford to pay for their healthcare – but it's at double price, because there is no equity or regulation on the billing process. Consumers end up paying anyway, at a higherprice. At least with Healthcare Reform, brings it all to the forefront for us to determine how it will be distributed and regulated. In the end, the doctor's foot the bill for their insurance, but the doctor will pass the buck down to us.

    August 14, 2009 at 2:02 am |
  19. Tina

    We'll continue paying the high price of healthcare, even if we do nothing! Think about it people! If an immigrant, homeless person goes into the hospital for general health care and has no other coverage. If this non-paying person is not going to pay their bill, the doctor's will get a tax write-off from their insurance company. The cost gets passed back to us again, because we pay for the doctor's liability insurance! If a welfare, medicare, medicaid person gets healthcare, we pay for it anyway! And to make it all worse – the people who don't have any insurance or other health coverage, the hospital will double bill them! So we end up paying for the double bill! There needs to be more reform and regulation by the government. We've seen where the greedy corporations and insurance agencies and corporate criminals have ran rampant w/o regulation. we're still paying the price for their greed!

    August 14, 2009 at 1:40 am |
  20. Henry

    Frankly, no amount of legislation is going to do anything about reforming the health care system in this country until steps are taken to stop the obscene price gouging by the entire industry.
    Their ridiculous profiteering is the root cause of the entire 'crisis'.
    If gas stations had the same profit margin as the pharmacuetical companies, we would have been paying over $1000 per gallon of gas for many years.
    In 1993, one of our local hospitals was charging $16 for a Band Aid brand bandage – $16 dollars for a Band-Aid! In 1993! God knows what they are charging now.
    Why should heatlth insurance cost you more than the mortgage on your home?
    We don't need the crowd in Washington to come up with a way to pay for more of this kind of extortion – we need them to put an end to it and demand that costs are brought back down to a reasonable level.
    It is long past time to demand that this extortion be stopped.

    August 14, 2009 at 1:27 am |
  21. RLWellman

    Liberals, you are the minority and you are not going to make the majority of American citizens accept this Health Care Reform Bill the way it is written. You can cry all you want, but the majority is speaking and being heard at these town hall meetings.

    You are calling these people stupid and ignorant by saying they don't really understand what is going on. It is you who don't really know what's going on. These people are the back bone of America.

    We need reform, but not at the expense of the Government running it. They can help lowering cost of the existing health care. They can also cut cost by sending the illegal alliens back where they come, which will save the health care industry billions per year.

    August 14, 2009 at 1:09 am |
  22. Richard S. Harman

    President Obama is a good, kind man who is trying to support humanitarian health care reform. He does not seem to have realized how cold-blooded his Right Wing opposition is and how desperately determined they are to take back power from him and from the people who support him..

    It causes me great pain to see officials leading with their chins at the hijacked "Town Halls" where sloganeering has stolen the cameras, reasonable voices are shouted down, and intimidation is rankly implied if not actually present. Fear and threat of violence contribute nothing to the plight of those without health care in America. Are these opposition tactics not shameful?

    I ask all good, kind people to unite behind the President and give Congress a chance to deliberate carefully and work out a wise bill. Democrats must take responsibility for what they do, so lt them do it. I also urge the President's political advisers to implement at once more effective methods of advocacy for this worthy cause.. Has our side no experts in PR?

    August 14, 2009 at 12:56 am |
  23. kim

    Where have the Republican's been all this time? I know trying to start a war that we didn't really need and now they want to oppose somethng that could help many Americans. They have let our previous President lie to our faces, but here you have a man who is trying to do something to help many Americans. Why don't the Republican's come up with something better if they think they can do it because they can't. They can not profit if every one is being helped. I am not trying to be a racist or anything, but when you really look at the majority of the people who are opposing the healthcare it is White America. They talk about obesity and other health issues in this country, so ok if you do not want healthcare reform then put the money where people can be helped. Maybe we need to try and use some techniques of other countries. If the government does not do something about healthcare then who will not the insurance companies, not the doctors and not the pharmarcitical comapnies. This bill can help so many people between the ages of 20-65. People like me regular old Joe Blow people who may not have a job or out of work temporarly. Then if i am out of work that means that I don't have healthcare. Stop complaning and start working together. Give the man a chance to do something for the people other than take them to WAR.

    August 14, 2009 at 12:49 am |
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