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July 22nd, 2009
10:53 AM ET

Obama birth issue is nutty

As soon as then-Sen. Obama entered the presidential race, 'he has had to endure the so-called flag-waving American patriots who think they are the arbiters of what's right for the country,' Martin writes.

As soon as then-Sen. Obama entered the presidential race, 'he has had to endure the so-called flag-waving American patriots who think they are the arbiters of what's right for the country,' Martin writes.

Roland S. Martin
CNN Contributor

The YouTube video of an out-of-control woman yelling and screaming at Republican Congressman Mike Castle's town hall meeting in Delaware, demanding to see the birth certificate of President Barack Obama, is utterly hilarious.

To watch others cheer her insanity, and then boo the congressman who says the president is an American, shows you that we have a serious problem with mental illness in this country.

The nut jobs that continue to promote this story are wacky, right-wing radio and TV talk shows hosts and no-credibility bloggers. They have latched onto this story like bloodsucking leeches, and actually want us to believe this story has legs.

Last week, in a suit filed by perennial presidential loser, Alan Keyes, they even tried to claim a court victory after a federal district judge in California asked to listen to the merits of their case. I'm sure he simply wanted to see for himself how delusional they are.

From the moment President Obama entered the race, he has had to endure the so-called flag-waving American patriots who think they are the arbiters of what's right for the country. What cracks me up is that in order to justify their loony beliefs, they say, "The president could just end this once and for all by producing the birth certificate."

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  1. Steve S

    Our constitution is being Usurped. Show me the real BC and i will be quiet .. until then he is a phony and should be taken out of office.

    July 23, 2009 at 8:38 am |
  2. Dulcie - Denver

    This whole argument is profoundly stupid. President Obama could have been born on the freaking moon! It doesn't matter. His mother was an American which confers citizenship upon her son, no matter where he was born.

    My father was also born in Hawaii and some have been unsure if Hawaii was a state at the time. It ultimately doesn't matter because he was born to an American mother.

    July 23, 2009 at 8:21 am |
  3. Tyler M.

    Utterly rediculous. That's all I have to say.

    July 23, 2009 at 6:40 am |
  4. American in UK

    This is a stupid story and get over people! He's not going to get thrown out of the White House now.

    July 23, 2009 at 5:04 am |
  5. Gilby-HI

    I just figured why President Obama is such a nice shade of brown.

    July 22, 2009 at 9:06 pm |
  6. Dominic

    Why didn't anyone raise this question of birth certificate when he was in the Senate?, and why should Radio Talk guys like Lue Doubs try to instigate idiots by raising such issues. This has some racial connotations.

    July 22, 2009 at 7:43 pm |
  7. Faz Khan

    good grief it's amazing how ill-informed people can be. His birth certificate's authenticity has already been independently proven. You'd know that if you bother to READ THE WHOLE ARTICLE. For the love of god/satan/whatever you fancy, do you all expect him to hold a press conference holding up the original document for all to see his Birth Certificate is indeed authentic. That's just absurd.

    Are people really that dumb to think that John McCain and Hilary Clinton's campaign people didn't already look in to the issue? That they'd let any chance at making the road to being the top dog in the world slip by like that? But then again the whole moon landing thing was faked too so who knows...right?

    July 22, 2009 at 7:28 pm |
  8. Cindy H - Ontario Canada

    When is he going to start dealing with U.S matters? enough about slavery already..get over it!

    July 22, 2009 at 7:22 pm |
  9. Tanya Travis

    If the birthers are sticklers for the constitution where were they when we lost our right to privacy and habeas corpus?

    July 22, 2009 at 7:05 pm |
  10. kaye diarra

    Yes, it is nutty and the whole world is watching this nonsense. Ten steps forward and a thousand steps backwards.

    July 22, 2009 at 6:59 pm |
  11. Kenneth Warren

    Is CNN the new FOX news channel? Ask fair and unbalanced Lou Dobbs, about his Obama birth issues.

    July 22, 2009 at 6:52 pm |
  12. Donna Wood, Lil' Tennessee

    Yes, this issue is nutty! And if you want to go in that direction people, what about Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger? Can anyone honestly say that he is a natural born citizen? Why don't we all just get deep down and stupid on this issue! Because it is utterly stupid! Right now, I am deeply ashamed to call some of you "fellow Americans"!

    Donna Wood
    Lexington, Tennessee

    July 22, 2009 at 6:36 pm |
  13. Dwayne

    This is absolutely absurd!!! Both of my sons were born in Hawaii, on the island of Oahu, in the county of Honolulu. Their birth certificates are the same as our President. Does this mean that they are not U.S. citizens??? This is an issue to take up with the state of Hawaii. Throughout the U.S. and it's territories, birth certificates are different, however recognized as birth certificates just the same.

    July 22, 2009 at 5:17 pm |
  14. Susan

    Come on, guys, you know as well as the general public that according to student loan records, our President qualified for international student aid for a good part of his education. At one time I recruited international students. It is unfair that good citizens who were born in this country and are asking for proof of the birth certificate from this President are being rediculed and suggested to have mental problems. You know yourselves that the last 100 days Obama has been extremely radical on many fronts. i.e., why have we made ourselves indebted to China? Talk about nutty! Anyone with a loyalty to our nation and its history would never consider promoting this. May we never come to the place that those who ask for proof and documentation over a major concern are termed radical and nutty. Your network is blessed to be watch worldwide. We see you when we travel Overseas. Please, refrain from ridiculing good people. Thanks, Susan

    July 22, 2009 at 4:44 pm |
  15. durox

    you're right; the best way to deal with this type of illness, is to ignore it... afterall, stupidity has no cure.

    July 22, 2009 at 4:31 pm |
  16. RLWellman

    Did you know you only have to live in Hawaii for a few months to apply for a birth certificate!

    July 22, 2009 at 4:18 pm |
  17. Arachnae

    Tammy, Houma, LA: What are you so afraid of anyway if this document is found?

    FOUND? it was never lost. This insistence on ignoring reality is why you and your fellow denialists are being characterized as nutjobs – because you are.

    July 22, 2009 at 3:31 pm |
  18. chelsea

    Well Tammy, the document has been "found" as well as reviewed by numerous officials. Upholding the Constitution is NOT the issue that these people have with Obama; as we have seen people will come up with anything to try to smear his name. Why don't these people just say what their REAL problem is?? I would also like to know just how you think he is "screwing America over"?...Certainly no one could screw us over more than the past 8 years...

    July 22, 2009 at 2:52 pm |
  19. Tammy, Houma, LA

    Good to know that people who want to make sure the Constitution was followed are "nut jobs". What are you so afraid of anyway if this document is found? Do those people really have a case? You sound pretty defensive to me, sort of like a three-year old caught in the cookie jar trying to excuse the wrong behavior. Prove the Constitution was followed and put it to rest. But don't degrade those who want to be sure the person screwing America over right now is legitimately able to do that. Really, this is the worst piece of persuasive writing I've seen in a long time. My high school freshmen have done a better job. And CNN allows itself to lower the standards by publishing this dribble because...

    July 22, 2009 at 2:25 pm |
  20. JC- Los Angeles

    It's pathetic and downright troubling for America, years after Dr. King spoke, to still be framing issues around color rather than the content of ones character.

    If Barack Obama couldn't make a dent in the black on black crime in is own hometown, how is he going to clean up America?

    It's time to stop segregating and demand accountability of all.

    July 22, 2009 at 2:22 pm |
  21. Sandi Schuchardt

    This issue has caused me to rethink a lot of my friendships. The emails I have received over the past year regarding this topic have gone from semi-humorous Photoshop pictures to down right preposterous conspiracy theories. It’s hard for me to imagine that there are people (actual friends) who believe that President Obama is a Muslim terrorist whose ultimate goal is to create a socialist government. All I can do is shake my head and hope that they have taken their meds for the day.

    July 22, 2009 at 2:19 pm |
  22. Tanya Travis

    Now that Lou Dobbs has stoked the fire in main stream media via CNN with this Obama birth obsession, I am alarmed. Why is he legitimized by CNN? Why does CNN risk this loss of the moderates who are very hungry for old fashion Walter Cronkite news. Send Lou Dobbs to Fox News where he belongs, where rumour and spin are the threat to decency and democracy in America. Save your reputation as providing news that is relevant to our lives; climate change science, the energy conservation strategies we all need to implement, and the details of healthcare reform.

    July 22, 2009 at 2:05 pm |
  23. Derek

    The absurdity of the contsant refrain from the likes of Ms. De Marco and others that President Obama should, "just produc[e] the document." just goes to show how inane this argument truly is. The truth of the matter is, President Obama's birth certificate is on file with the Hawaii State Department of Health and has been certified to be the original document (with all appropriate seals and stamps).

    High-resolution scans of President Obama's birth certificate can even be found on the non-partisian website FactCheck.org.

    The fact that this is still even being talked about is utterly ridiculous.

    July 22, 2009 at 1:52 pm |
  24. Rickster

    Hey Roland Martin:

    And you, are the only arbiter of this United States of America?

    You speak with such sarcasm and only prove how ignorant the mass of Obama voters really were. You "believed" in change. You voted with your hearts...Emotional and politically ignorant.

    There are a multitude of issues you would like to bypass...For starters, try on the transparency issue that we were promised. Yeah, really transparent government here.

    He is pushing like a Chicago politician. But you can overlook that and a dozen other campaign promises that he made and did not keep. You can overlook the $12 Trillion dollar spending like he and the Pelosi are drunk.

    Your world is so clean and simple and your "hope" lifestyle so easy to see. You obviously have never owned a business. You communicate like the one sided, closed minded person you really are.

    When the facts of what is happening are not good enough to talk about...You liberal "hope" people just slide away and refuse to talk about the facts.

    I live in the South and search for people who are willing to defend the socializing of our country that is being attempted. NO takers yet, because the facts are against your party and the facts are on the side of men and women who have had real life experiences and know how the system really works.

    I conclude on this issue. No amount of name calling and sarcasm will lend credibility to your opinions when those opinions on in opposite position of the facts of what has happened and what is going to happen if we allow our government to stay on this socialist agenda course.

    You simply sound politically ignorant and lack real life experiences.

    July 22, 2009 at 1:18 pm |
  25. Dave S, Tinley Park, IL

    He already posted his birth certificate on his website before the election, so get over it. It's absolutely pathetic that some small minded people (all 'close to God', I'm sure), are gullible enough to fall for another lame attempt at wasting their time with this garbage. Tea-bag party, anyone?

    July 22, 2009 at 1:11 pm |
  26. Heather,ca

    I never ever thought I would agree with you on anything, but on this Roland I do. This is beyond nutty. Not only is it truly rediculious, its a waste of time and energy. There are so many other pressing issues that could be debated about regarding Pres Obama. I guess a popular one is his choice of jeans. That is bording nutty I guess. Or perhaps his love of the teleprompter when speaking. His birth certificate is a waste of time. The fact it has been the subject of conversation on CNN and others is a real waste of time. People are suffering all over the country and you have nutjobs who somehow have the time to flip out over a non issue. Its just plain dumb. These people need to get a life and a job. They seem to have plenty of free time to focus on stupid stuff like this.

    July 22, 2009 at 1:01 pm |
  27. Pat

    As much hoopla as there was during the campaign, if there were anything to find out about a bogus birth certificate, it would have been! The news researchers would have turned over every rock under which a false birth certificate might have been found. That is the reason I don't think there is anything to the rumor that President Obama is not a US citizen. After looking at the frenzy surrounding every little bit of information they could dig up about Michael Jackson, they would have sniffed out this nasty bit about the birth certificate long ago!

    July 22, 2009 at 12:33 pm |
  28. Chantal

    Please peole. Are you all gone mad? There are numerous important problems we need to solve in the country. Stop the rumor mill. We need to nip this one in the you know where very quickly and put it to bed and move on.

    July 22, 2009 at 12:30 pm |
  29. Vickie

    Obama's birth certificate HAS been produced, reviewed, scrutinized, checked for a raised seal, re-checked, shown on TV, and posted on-line for anyone with Internet access to review.

    What else do these fools want the man to do?
    It has been established that Obama IS a US citizen!

    PLEASE, LETS GET BACK TO THE ISSUES!

    July 22, 2009 at 12:27 pm |
  30. Melissa

    Angela, please stop. The issue here is the people who are STILL trying to claim this idiotic "Obama isn't an American citizen" crap. Lets adress that, huh? Obama shouldn't have to silence his critics, because his document has already been looked at by officials, and others, and deemed valid. Enough is enough. This childish garbage has got to stop.

    July 22, 2009 at 12:19 pm |
  31. Arachnae

    Angela – what part of 'it has been proved' don't you understand?

    From Factcheck.org as quoted in the full article that you clearly didn't read: "FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false."

    July 22, 2009 at 12:16 pm |
  32. joyce dolan

    A copy of Obama's birth certificate is on FactCheck.org. I printed it
    out at last November. Don't we think Hillary would have found out
    if it was a fake? Hawaii state law forbids the release of birth or marriage certificates to anyone but the persons named in the documents or their immediate relatives. Why doesn't this story
    die down?

    July 22, 2009 at 11:51 am |
  33. Clark

    The rule of law includes (especially) the Constitution. This issue was a non-starter for me until recently when .... the President could have simply produced the proof of where he was born ... when the Army major claimed to be a consciencious objector and refused to deploy until the President produced proof of citizenship and therefor prove the legitimacy of his claim to the Presidency.

    BUT, to my great surprise the government decided to cancel the major's deployment orders. Now, I am beginning to ponder this issue because something is beginning to smell.

    July 22, 2009 at 11:48 am |
  34. Cindy

    Why Roland is it so nutty that people want to see a real birth certificate of the man in charge of our country and what goes on in it? You better bet your sweet butt if it was a Rep that seemed fishy that the dems would be screaming to the top of their lungs for a real one. All Obama has to do is show his real birth certificate with a seal on it and this will be over with. But he won't.

    Cindy..Ga.

    July 22, 2009 at 11:42 am |
  35. Terry, TX

    Yes....I agree....Obama needs to furnish the long form official birth certificate from Hawaii....not the short one that he showed.
    This would silence everybody.

    Frankly, I believe he was born in Hawaii....I believe he doesn't want Americans to know what religion his mother put down......because back then your religion was listed. Five dollars his mother, who only married Muslims, put down Islam. She would not have been allowed to put anything else.
    I believe this is the same reason we don't have access to his college transcripts.....religion was listed on transcripts back then. It's possible we have elected a defacto Muslim president.

    July 22, 2009 at 11:26 am |
  36. Angela De Marco

    While there may be hysteria out there, please remember that the Constituition of the United States states clearly that the President must be a natural born citizen. So while you may think it is loony etc, the document upon which we base our laws in this country is very clear. Show the "nut-job right wingers" that they are wrong. The president is on TV every day. Surely he can take one of those days to silence all his critics regarding his birth status by just producing the document. Not alot to ask considering what he is asking the American people to pay to support his policies.

    July 22, 2009 at 11:04 am |