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July 10th, 2009
10:30 PM ET

Her only crime was the veil

Octavia Nasr
AC360° Contributor
CNN Senior Mideast Affairs Editor

Marwa is already dubbed the “Hijab Martyr.” Many believe she was murdered because she’s Muslim and wears her religion on her head in a Hijab, the Muslim head cover. Her heinous cold-blooded murder in a Germany courtroom has sent shockwaves across the Middle East and now it is spreading across the world.

Marwa was 31 and three months pregnant, when she appeared at a Dresden courtroom to testify against a man who had already been convicted of verbally attacking her by calling her a “terrorist” at a playground with her 3-year-old son. Instead of justice, Marwa and her family were met by a tragic fate.

On July 1st, in the Dresden courtroom, the same man identified only as Alex M. stabbed her 18 times in front of her son and husband. As her husband tried to defend her, he got his share of the stabbing and he was shot by a police officer who mistook him for the assailant. Marwa later died in the hospital. Her husband is still in critical condition.

Two Egyptian researchers at Dresden University, Mohammed Ahmed Khalif and Magdi Khalil, told CNN that on that fateful day, their trust in Germany was shattered.

"We have fear about our family here, about our children” said Khalif. He said he is disappointed by what he believes is a muted response by the German public and its politicians.

Khalil agrees with Khalif. He adds that some people in Germany could possibly harbor an anti-Muslim sentiment. He suggested twisting this around to see how people would react to the same story. “What do you think if we have an Egyptian guy who kills a German woman in a court? What do you think would happen,” he asked.

Germany’s government spokesperson Thomas Steg stressed that, “In Germany we cannot tolerate, right wing extremism, hatred of foreigners nor Islamophobia."

For many in Egypt and across the Middle East, this response came late and wasn’t enough.

Egyptians mourned the death of Marwa with shock and outrage. As it is customary in the Middle East when someone dies young, the 31-year-old pregnant mother was buried in a procession fit for a bride, while across the nation people continue to take to the streets in sympathy.

Underneath the sadness of mourning, anger is brewing at what people in the Middle East call a hate crime. They are moved by news reports of how Marwa died.

Many have taken to the streets, waving banners that call her stabbing death a hate crime and that it’s racially motivated. They say Marwa was killed because she's Muslim and wore the Muslim headscarf.

When they felt their calls for justice were going unnoticed, Egyptians along with other Arabs and supporters from around the world, took to the Internet, which has become the voice for the voiceless in the Middle East region.

On Twitter, they asked for sympathizers to spread the message that a life was lost and they want the world to pay attention.

They accused the media of failing to highlight the murder.

They criticized Europe in general and Germany in particular for becoming increasingly extreme towards minorities, especially Muslims.

And on Facebook, they asked for justice; calling for the harshest possible sentence for the assailant and an apology from Germany. They created pages where people can pay homage to a woman who has now become known simply as the "Martyr of the Hijab."


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soundoff (274 Responses)
  1. JoN

    The loss of any life is terrible, and we should each mourn when violence and hatred win over tolerance and peace. We should all be equally outraged at the loss of any life.
    Where is the outrage for the Germans who were killed in Yemen? Where is the outrage for the Christian man who was killed in Mauritania because of his faith?
    No, the murder of Marwa is tragic and the result of an extremist who live in every country.
    Every time something is perpretrated against a Muslim, we can't go painting the west or a country as anti-Muslim. This certainly exists, but their freedoms in the west FAR surpass the freedoms other religions have in the Middle East.
    Let's be fair in mourning ALL life that is lost. Let's be fair in where real anti-religious attitudes really exist.

    July 11, 2009 at 10:02 am |
  2. CreaturesOfGod

    May she and the soul within her rest in peace... This coward, full of arrogance, pride and hatred, that a Muslim woman should stand up to him, had no answer to a woman's courage except to kill her. But its more important that people not let him succeed in his aim. And that aim was to cause confusion and to intimidate. No one has the right to label Germany or any other European nation on account of the crime of one person. Undoubtedly there are many others like him all over the world. And I say no one, Muslim or otherwise, should acquiesce to any such fear and intimidation. This woman showed us by her life and death, showed us the proper way to deal with such fear and intimidation. She showed us in the most beautiful and humane way, that such tyrants should be confronted in every part of society, whether it be the courtroom, park, or playground.

    July 11, 2009 at 9:23 am |
  3. Sickened

    "This sad story shows that extremism is not limited to Muslims."

    That says it all. Limited to Muslims? Have you looked at the actions of the western nations over the last 100 years? Terrorism is too mild a word. Muslims will believe that his was intentional. How could a Germany court room not have prevented a stabbing of 18 times? THen shot her husband? I can't get through security in a German airport if I have a sliver of metal on me. Muslims are second class citizens, worse, as this "not limited to Muslims" comment shows. And what do you get when you systematically oppress a people? A holocaust, or a revolution. Get ready Europe, for one of them.

    July 11, 2009 at 9:21 am |
  4. Greg

    And how did the cop "mistake" the husband for the bad guy with the knife? Something stinks in Germany.

    July 11, 2009 at 9:10 am |
  5. Thiagan

    This is a terrible crime. A terrible criminal act. I believe it is absurd to link this crime in a German court to either any religion or any other terrorist or criminal act. The German Government should thoroughly investigate this crime and meet out a just punishment prescribed by the law. A thorough investigation into the cause of this terrible crime should be investigated and an educational process to prevent such crimes should be instituted immediately. Since this crime was committed in a formal German courtroom a mechanism should be set in place to compensate this family fully. However inadequate that may seem.

    July 11, 2009 at 9:05 am |
  6. willy

    I am appalled not just by the profound trajedy of this murder but also by the extreme ignorance and hatred being displayed by comentators on this page. Transferring blame and anger over this murder to the Muslim world is wrong and detracts from the calousness and tragedy of this act. It deprives the victim and her family of their innocence and suggests that their faith makes them somehow at fault.

    Obviously everybody is entitled to their opinions and thankfully have the right to express them. But spewing hatred against an entire religion on the false notion that it is responsible for all the world's males/issues, is irresponsible and naive.

    July 11, 2009 at 8:54 am |
  7. Steven ong

    Its time that the Muslim wakes up to the truth about fairness and justice. They are not ashame at all of the open and continueous crime against their own ,like the suicide bombing of their innocent children and women in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan or the honour killings of women in their own countries. Many more crimes against Muslim women are committed daily and yet the Muslim men are dead silent. They treat their women like a slave. But would voiced out sometimes violently at first hint of crime against a Muslim woman outside their countries. . Its time that the Muslim sturdy and understand what is fairness and justice as stated according to the International declaration of human rights. Muslims needs to open up and live according to internationally accepted norms.

    July 11, 2009 at 8:51 am |
  8. Nikola

    Fact: she was only wearing her headscarf (like my grandmother would) and not a burkha.

    Fact: she did not come to Germany to exploit the social system, her husband was a researcher scheduled to defend his PhD this month.

    Fact: there was almost no public outcry and reaction, although media reported the case.

    Fact: the guards shot her husband on reflex, mistaking him for an attacker only because of his skin colour.

    Fact: the rasist scum who killed her was able somehow to bring a knife into the courtroom.

    Based on all this, many people (mainly courthouse personnel) made unforgivable mistakes, and the lunatic who did this must go in jail and remain there till he rots.

    BUT: Muslims (and especially women) are better of in Germany and enjoy more basic human rights than in many Muslim countries. So this is an isolated case of a lunatic scum and messed up security. No more, no less. My sympathy goes to the poor family.

    I am shocked by many racist statement I read above.

    July 11, 2009 at 8:42 am |
  9. Zaki from Belguim

    I was reading all comments & feel really sorry for that woman and her family. I feel more sorry for the peoples who lost there mind and compere this story with the related stories ,were happened in the past.We as a Humanbeing ,Openminded and living in modern world have big responsiablitie's to fight terrorism & racism.Please don,t mistake,fighting terrorism does,t means fighting muslims .Because in every religion we have exteremists .Most of the muslim's who lift there countries & choose living in Europe or U.S ,are self religion victum's. As a muslim i believe that wearing Veil dose,t have any connection with the religion, but it is a big tradition of Arab's & middle east muslim countries, that we should to respect it .We should to stop religion war & learn to use soft words ,espicially in this tragidy.

    July 11, 2009 at 8:39 am |
  10. R. James

    There are now over 50 million muslims in western Europe now, not because the people wanted them but because our corrupt EU Gov´t is forcing them on us. Then when one European person reacts with a violent response to this invasion, we are called "evil haters". I have lived in three EU Nations now – Spain, Holland, and Austria. In all three I see millions of muslims. Many abuse the social system and even practice polygamy with 4 wives and 15 children – all on social welfare. When is Egypt going to take millions of white people and pay for their welfare? Never! This violence against non-European invaders is just beginning!

    July 11, 2009 at 8:37 am |
  11. Bakari

    RIP to the mother and child, it sucks the child didn't get to see the light of day. But in a sense I'm happy that baby doesn't get to see the ugly monster called RACISM that will never die in this pathetic world. I wish I can hug her husband and give him my sympathy for standing up for his wife. I'm sure everyone in this forum would do the same for their loved ones.

    July 11, 2009 at 8:18 am |
  12. Hanif Chauhan

    Angela, you base your comments on hearsay. I bet you never studied Quran but are commenting like an expert. I am a muslim and I am proud to say that Quran proclaims that "murder of any person is the murder of humanity". Also it is never ever mandatory for any muslim , the systematic slaying of non-muslims. Of all the muslims around the world, hardly one per cent can be labeled terrorists or extremists or fundamentalists. Hot headed blood thirsty morons are found in every religion, doesn't mean we should condemn the whole group.

    July 11, 2009 at 8:17 am |
  13. SD

    Just like the thousands who have been killed in 11/9 and the others in London and across Europe, there have been thousands of Muslims killed by Muslim extremists in Iraq, Jordan and Egypt. Extremists use the name of Islam but have created their own war against anyone who does not follow them. Murders of foreigners in Jordan and Egypt in the name of religion have always recieved outcrys from officials, the media and the people. However, what you hear about in the West are the extremists who condone such acts.

    The hundreds or even thousands of ignorant extremists don't speak on behalf of the millions of Muslims who have befreinded non-Muslims and opened up their contries and their homes for them. As Muslims, we are suffering as much as you from the wave of extremists – don't let your own extremists take over or allow them to represent you.

    July 11, 2009 at 8:05 am |
  14. Ali

    It is by no means a racist crime. However, we do not have the right to condemn the entire German people for the crime of an individual. Furthermore, why do people in the Muslim world keep silent when an aid worker is killed whether in Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan or Africa? Aren’t those killed human beings as well?
    Racism occurs on both sides of the Mediterranean, and until we learn to accept and respect each other, such incidents will continue to happen.
    Last but not least, I am Muslim, and I am sorry to say that we as Muslims need to learn how to tolerate and respect others before we ask others to tolerate and respect us.

    July 11, 2009 at 7:43 am |
  15. ahmed

    Dear Wills(espically),
    If we stay in our countries because we are musilms...please remov the millions of europeans and americans from our countries. guess they can't leave cause they feed their children from our MUSLIM money.

    July 11, 2009 at 7:42 am |
  16. Jenni

    A bit different when the boot is on the other foot isn't it!
    Tell your brothers to stop killing Westerners and you might even get a tiny little bit of sympathy.
    In the meantime suck it up like the rest of us infidel nonbelievers have to.

    July 11, 2009 at 7:37 am |
  17. Edward

    In 2000, I visited the World Trade Center, and I ate at a Kabob place inside of it. To this day, I don't know whether Ahmed (the owner of the place and a very pleasant guy) has lived or died in the attacks. I do know that few dozen Muslims died in those attacks.
    Nothing can justify terrorism, and to this day, more Muslims have died and suffered because of it than non Muslims. Be it in Egypt, Pakistan, Afghanistan or elsewhere. Also, Many potential attacks have been uncovered by oridnary Muslim citizens, which in itself saved lives.
    Two wrongs don't make a right. Many conservative radio talk shows in this country incite and advocate extremism against Muslims, and if something isn't done about that, it won't be long before we have a new wave of extreme or terrorist attacks against them.
    It's time for wisdom to prevail. That crime was tragic, and could've been avoided.

    July 11, 2009 at 7:28 am |
  18. Mel

    It is a terrible thing that happened in Germany. We should all unite to stamp out racial and religious hatemongering, which is very common not only in Europe and America, but in the Muslim world itself!
    I think it is necessary to issue a warning to anybody going from America or Germany to Muslim countries, specifically Egypt, to avoid going there at all, or at least, to be prepared if you have to go. If Muslims kill people over what the Pope said or over some cartoons, imagine what they will do after this!

    July 11, 2009 at 7:06 am |
  19. Aurangzeb Khan, Pakistan

    I seem to recall that in Iraq these past months and few years that a number of women were murdered who ventured out in public and on the streets without wearing the Hijab or were considered "immodestly dressed".

    Like the people are busy setting up pages of tribute to this Egyptian lady who was muredered in Dresden, may I sugest that someone or someones also take the troublke to set up website pages and e-Shrines devoted to these poor unfortunate Iraqi women whom I call "Non-Hijab Martyrs"?

    July 11, 2009 at 7:00 am |
  20. Nabhan

    Yeah, so I have a question... where on Earth, under it or in space do people who claim that the Quran tells Muslims to kill non-muslims get that garbage?!?!?!

    First of all, Muslims do not consider Christians and Jews to be infidels. Never in the Quran are they called infidels, they are referred to as "People of the Book" and us Muslims are commanded to treat them as friends (yeah, big surprise).

    "Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians, whoever believes in Allah and the Last day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord, and there is no fear for them, nor shall they grieve" Al Baqara, Verse 62

    "and nearest among them in love to the believers wilt thou find those who say, "We are Christians": because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant." Al Maeda, Verse 82

    So please do not just throw blind accusations without doing proper research... because this is exactly what fundamentalists do.

    The fact that Marwa was killed for her religious beliefs is a mini-holocaust-like hate crime that is just as disgusting.

    Please, start making decisions without your televisions; Because, despite the fact that information is one click away, the world's ignorance has become encyclopedic.

    July 11, 2009 at 6:56 am |
  21. Jing

    It's not their fault to be Muslim. They didn't and cannot choose where to be born. Not all Muslim are terrorists. Please be fair to those pacifist but happens to be Muslim.

    July 11, 2009 at 6:42 am |
  22. Adam

    What this story represents is humans at their worst. If a European is killed by Muslim extremists, Europeans express outrage at Muslims, but are silent when a European extremist kills a Muslim.

    If Muslim extremists kill a European, Muslims are silent.

    Talk a look at yourself... which side are you on? If you are Muslim, have you openly protested against the extremists in your world. If you are European, have you done the same against your extremists?

    Why don't the moderate people in both groups express outrage at the extremists in whatever form they come? Extremists are the problem. They only want what they want and they will kill to get it. Don't be manipulated. Fight extremists of any form and this world will be a better place.

    July 11, 2009 at 6:41 am |
  23. Bart

    Muslim, Christian, Jew, Hindu, who cares. The fact that another innocent person was taken away from this world should be the key point here. We as a world need to stop assimilating people by religion and think of others as equals, then we can come together and tear down the walls of those that force us to react like animals, as we see in the news everyday. The fact that a muslim wears a head scarf is irrelevant, the fact that the fanatic religion side, wants to change the society of my home country, is distressing. Now, going the other way is where we lose track. Their are not to many muslim countries where you can have a church over the next corner from a mosque, and there is no Muslim country where woman have to wear a scarf, that allow foreign woman not to do so...... So a lot of the arguments above are justified on the side of Democratic people. Remember the oldest saying "When in Rome, do as the Romans do" maybe there is more to this...............

    July 11, 2009 at 6:34 am |
  24. Tahir Razvi

    Some people will justify it that they kill Germans in Yemen so big deal if a Muslim woman is killed by German man, How can we all be so cruel to compare killings and justifies it happily. We humans are becoming Yahoo's described by Jonathan Swift in Gulliver’s Travels as a race of wild beings who are half beast and half man, and who have none of the finer instincts of (even) beasts.

    July 11, 2009 at 6:34 am |
  25. amina

    It is highly unfortunate we find ourselves in this situation. Every person that habours hate of any sort will produce children that they inadvertently teaches same to. It is very strange that the hijab that covers up a muslim woman is now a sign of terror. so many cultures have clothing articles that identifies them, most of which have long histories and bear meaning recognised by people who wear them. The Quran preaches peace and says every creature has a right to this world. Nobody can dictate what religion the other person practices, for the Almighty alone knows who worships him. I feel sorry for the German man for he knew no better and may this show others that the threat is within them. May God give her son and husband the strength to bear the loss.

    July 11, 2009 at 6:32 am |
  26. SC

    There are plenty of messed up people around. Like it or not, they exist. Punishment should be carried on to the perpetrator irrespective of ethinicity. On what ground this statement comes from "They criticized Europe in general and Germany in particular for becoming increasingly extreme towards minorities, especially Muslims."? The more this issue is highlighted on ethinicity ground it will only increase and aggreviate the level of unrest btw these two world. This will only be beneficial to the rise of extremist on both sides and in the long run it will be of no beneficial to anyone this is the main objective of extremist – Justice should be served on the ground that she is being murdered.

    July 11, 2009 at 6:27 am |
  27. hiky

    When things like this happen people end up drowning the real issue with some non related and superficial non issues.
    To stab a person 18 times takes at least 18 to 20 seconds. Was this maniac alone in this courtroom with the couple? Was the maniac not scanned with all those funny gadgets used for metal detectors?
    We should be talking about a possible connivance with the security personnel to allow this SOB into a courtroom with a knife. Give me a break here. You mean to tell me the world froze for those 20 seconds or more that made it possible for him to stab the poor woman 18 times and even went ahead to harm the husband.

    July 11, 2009 at 6:14 am |
  28. tinaye hove

    What ignorance to compare the death of a woman stabbed to death in what should be the safest place in a country to terrorists attacking london or non-muslims. Your ignorance is a far cry from the questions that you should be asking,

    how did he get a knife in the court room
    how did a police officer mistake the husband as the attacker.

    This woman was one of the good people the kind of person every religion and race needs, somebody who just wanted to get on with her life and stood up for her values without demanding anything but respect for her beliefs, don't make about politics or terrorists, let us mourn what has happened and realize that we are lost as people until we start to realize that we must rise above the chaos rather than sink below it and fuel it.

    July 11, 2009 at 6:14 am |
  29. Anne

    Somehow, I am, as a woman, expected to be covered and weiled when visiting some muslim country, regardless for this being against my religious beliefs. And, respecting their culture, I do cover up.

    Why is it so difficult to respect Western civilisation culture standards by muslims? Why do they come there and keep to their standards, and request us to obey their standards in their country? So their stadards should be obeyed everywhere and by everyone, and West can keep theirs at their home only, and then only if it doesn't bother anyone else visiting?
    Somehow I am lost in trying to undrestand.

    July 11, 2009 at 6:12 am |
  30. Frank

    I have not read any opinion pieces on CNN expressing consternation at the numerous Muslim victims of Islamic barbarity – the women who are stoned, the girls who have their genitals sliced off, who are forcibly married to men two or three times their age, or who are victims of "honour killings" because they have non-Muslim boyfriends or have adopted "un-Islamic" dress or behaviour. The human rights abuses that occur on a daily basis in Muslim lands are too numerous to count.
    The typical Western "liberal" commentator, as in this case, only gets upset when the perpetrator can be clearly identified as a non-Muslim. Then he joins in the outcry – equally selective – that rings through the Muslim world.

    July 11, 2009 at 6:09 am |
  31. Greg

    This comment is for Angela, who posted on July 10th,

    "The killing of one Muslim woman in Germany was committed by a hateful individual, whereas the slaughter of Christians, Jews and other non-Muslims by Muslims is SYSTEMATIC, because it is mandated by the Koran and the hatemongering Islamic clerics. Islam is NOT compatible with democracy and western values."

    Please point out to me where in the "Koran" it is "mandated" that Muslims kill Christians, Jews and other non-Muslims ... I must have missed that part.

    As a "westerner" who converted to Islam because of its promise of peace, I think you should get a clue ... Read the Q'uran before speaking about it ...

    July 11, 2009 at 6:00 am |
  32. Johan

    Bizarrely the cries of foul from the Muslim world over one murdered woman stand in stark contrast to the hundreds of muslims who have just been killed in riots in China. Is there a rational explanation why the death of one human being by a criminal is so contentious but the slaughter of islamic chinese citizens is not? How many Muslims died in Iraq during the same period? This is a stark reminder of the selective reaction of the muslim world to allegations of abuse of their faith. For a European country to dare to allow the publication of contentious cartoons brings the house down, for governments to slaughter hundreds of Muslims in far corners of the world does not receive a mention. Shameless hyporcrisy.

    July 11, 2009 at 5:58 am |
  33. remie

    killing of christians in Egypt, sudan, Nigeria,yemen and in some other places are carried out by muslims,and mostly the radicals and extremist among them,,, but does that really justify the killing of this innocent pregnant woman,,,,and the so called( mistaken)shooting of her husband,,, by the highly trained, sophisticated german police?,,,well, to me it just seems babaric and cruel,,,nevertheless it isnt a surprice the perpetrator of this evil knew quite well that he would be pampered by his government,, no matter matter what,so that gave him the audacity,anyway if he doesnt get gis deserved punishment, from the govenment.... Gods´will always be there no matter how long,,,alas that isnt what my bible teaches me,,

    July 11, 2009 at 5:57 am |
  34. anon

    jigalong,

    I think women exposing their curves like a meat market is just ridiculous and should be banned.

    What say about that, you narrow-minded hindrance to peace? The world consists of a lot of people, nothing makes you more equal than the rest.

    July 11, 2009 at 5:47 am |
  35. schaufling

    It's a sad and tragic incident, but saying that all Germans, Germany, Europe and the whole world are full of hatred against the Muslim community...Well, that's VERY exaggerated. Especially when there were one or two "honor killings" in Germany the past month. So, Muslim fathers and brothers killing their daughters and sisters respectively is okay? Maybe one should think about that, too.

    July 11, 2009 at 5:46 am |
  36. anon

    Quoting Wills:

    "Stay in a Muslim country if you want to look and act like a Muslim. Your insistance to maintain your visible religious beliefs are now stirring up trouble everywhere."

    Have you been in a Muslim country? Do you know that the trouble that's being stirred up is HUGELY in Muslim countries too? Do you know that in places like pakistan and egypt it's becoming hard to wear a hijab even there?

    I wonder what's stirring up problems then? Probably the ones who started the hate propaganda that produces mindless hate like yours... probably partly your own "insistance to maintain" secularism. People so incapable of understanding another point of view are the reason there is no peace or justice today.

    July 11, 2009 at 5:44 am |
  37. qayla

    where is the outcry from muslims who kill their women in so called honour killings. It happens all over their world.Young women killed for the flimiest reasons by their own men folk. How are these women avenged.I think muslims should do alot of soulsearching before accusing anyone.

    July 11, 2009 at 5:39 am |
  38. Reality

    The world will soon be divided into religions. If muslims are not happy in non muslim countries, why do they migrate there in the first place?

    July 11, 2009 at 5:36 am |
  39. Reality

    The world will soon be divided into religions. If muslims are not happy in non muslim countries, why do migrate there in the first place?

    July 11, 2009 at 5:36 am |
  40. Feliz

    This is a wrong of one man to one woman not a nation nor a religion. Period! This had often happened in the past when a lunatic kills a person...we know of many in history...there are lunatics and there are victims. I sympathise with the family. YEs what happened is truly sad. But, the fact that this woman wears a hijab does not make her nor Islam a target. Can someone tell me why the life of this woman is more valuable than the thousands that die at the hands of suicide bombers in the name of Islam. Perhaps someones just wants another excuse to take to the streets

    July 11, 2009 at 5:32 am |
  41. Peter

    The fact that this man was in a court, being prosecuted for a crime against his victim already shows that he indeed was a disturbed man. Things like this do happen, regardless of race, religion or country. Disturbed people live all over the world, and accusing Germany as a whole for racism on behalf of one madman is nuts.

    I really feel for the family that was shattered this way and I wish them the best in the future. Lets hope that the extremists dont try and make this poor woman into an excuse for killing more people.

    July 11, 2009 at 5:30 am |
  42. Thomas

    As Germany as well as most other parts of Western Europe are flooded with so called migrants from the arab world who basically seek out to abuse the western welfare system and live on local taxpayer´s money it is only understandable that the majority of Europeans are no longer willing to tolerate such kind of migration.

    I can only hope that this incident in Dresden is sparking an exodus of muslims from Europe. Unfortunately I fear it won´t as it is still so much easier to live on welfare in our countries than to rely on one´s own hands´work in muslim countries.

    I wonder by the way what would happen if suddenly Europeans would migrate in big numbers to countries such as egypt, not adopt to their lifestyle, with migrating women walking around with NO headscarfs, probably short skirts due to warm weather etc. If u ever think of leaving ur country, try to ADJUST to the lifestyle of the country that´s taking u in! In Europe people are so tired and annoyed by all those headscarfs around them, it is truly time for a ban on those medieval traditions.

    July 11, 2009 at 5:27 am |
  43. tbile

    firstly i would like to express my utter revulsion at this racist and natzi crime. there are far too many who believe it is normal or even ok, the killing of the mother and her unborn child can only e avenged by beheading the murderer.

    for the record i dont hold extremist view, i believe the response fits the crimei am appaled at all the replies who think its "ok".

    July 11, 2009 at 5:22 am |
  44. Ray u r an IDIOT

    seriously Ray, I really wish that god put you in this family's shoes , maybe you would feel and understand what it really means when such a thing happens.

    July 11, 2009 at 5:18 am |
  45. Christoph

    Please note: the man who stabbed Marwa was from Russia. Why isn't that mentioned?

    July 11, 2009 at 5:14 am |
  46. German liberal dude

    What a bunch of hypocrates.

    A Western drawes some funny pictures.. the Muslim World cries out and demands his death. Some idiot German right wing extremist (Yes, we still got those and we are fighting them but so do all other Western countries) stabs a woman who happens to be Muslim and the Muslim World is in an outrage.

    But... Muslims blow up other Muslims, Americans, Europeans, whoever ..and there is no outcry. Muslim behead other Muslims, even young children and babies... and there is no outcry.

    This makes me sick.

    You people want justice? Start cleaning up your own frontyard!
    You simply can not demand rights that you you are not willing to give to others ...unless you learn that lesson you will always stay behind and have other people harvest the fruits of the 21st century.

    July 11, 2009 at 5:09 am |
  47. Zain ul abidin

    The comment section really shows the mentality which caused this crime.

    Western media including CNN is to be blamed for this. Notice how the reporter said 'what protesters call as a hate crime'. Why reporter bluntly called it a hate crime?

    most western are making justification of the crime which shows general mentality in west.

    Hearing it makes me sick.

    July 11, 2009 at 4:53 am |
  48. Kiki

    Totally agree with Ray Jackson! Why should west feel sorry about her?!

    PS: Know I shouldn't but I had a laugh reading this news... Her husband was shot because he was mistaken for the assailant! LOL

    July 11, 2009 at 4:47 am |
  49. EgyMuslim

    First, being a well traveled Egyptian Muslim I would like to say that not all Germans are like that at all, however, the German Government is definitely guilty of doing much too little much too late. Also, while the hatred for Muslims has existed secretly in Europe for along time, it is the European Governments and the American Government that allowed it to surface and become an almost acceptable sentiment after 9/11 under the guise of freedom of speech and freedom of the press.
    Finally, for those who keep saying Egyptian Muslims persecute Copts (Egyptian Christians) Kindly stop spreading nonsense. There is NO persecution of Copts in Egypt. They are a minority and suffer nothing more than feeling they are a minority. Now on the other hand, consider what their equals do to Muslim minorities in Bosnia, Sarajevo and Chechnya. These 3 locations are also of the Eastern Orthodox Faith just like the Egyptian Copts and we all know what happened there.
    May Allah grant Marwa his eternal paradise.

    July 11, 2009 at 4:41 am |
  50. Peter

    Stop calling Ray names, he has a right to his opinion and feelings! Just as soon as someone does not "feel" like some of you, he/she is bombarded with insults. ("Christian, Republican, Mississippian", etc.)

    I partially agree with him, except I am extremely sorry for anyone that is killed for any reason. The hijab is getting to be areal eyesore in Europe. It should be left behind...Turkey did the right thing. Not allowed in government institutions, although it is a Muslim nation.
    Muslims have not endeared themselves in Europe. Remember the death orders that were put out on Rushdie, the threats and rampages over the jokes in Denmark, the murder of Van Gogh in Holland, just to name a few ? I don't see any Muslims protesting when they kill Germans. Do you?
    We can go on and on on about how Muslims have invaded and are abusing the social system in Europe, kind of like Illegals here. I have relatives in Salzburg, Austria. They can't leave their townhouse because the Muslims spit at them and call them names. Everywhere you look in the lands Muslims occupy there is extreme poverty, except in oil rich Saudi. Why?? Because they don't work ! Let a Muslim be "insulted" by an Infidel and all hell brakes lose, they are all out in the streets ranting, raving and shooting, shouting threats. You see the new clips..
    From what I understand the woman told this German to move in the park, so she could get by with her son for him to play, he got angry mad and called her a terrorist. She took him to court and he went berserk. The German court system is lax, they do not have the death penalty, nor do they give such lengthy sentences for murder as they do in the USA. There was no reason to shackle this guy at that point, he had not been arrested for calling her a name. He was just supposed to appear in court. This will get worse in Europe. The Europeans are losing patience with the Muslims because they generally don't conform to the laws of the land. They are dragging their traditions with them, like the hijab and the burka. England allows them to marry more than one wife ?! Why would there be a different law for Muslims? Muslims must either conform or move back to their mother country, there will be many clashes. The Chinese thought they were immune and look at it now, it has only started. The Koran and the hate mongering mullahs demand it !

    July 11, 2009 at 4:29 am |
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