July 10th, 2009
10:30 PM ET

Her only crime was the veil

Octavia Nasr
AC360° Contributor
CNN Senior Mideast Affairs Editor

Marwa is already dubbed the “Hijab Martyr.” Many believe she was murdered because she’s Muslim and wears her religion on her head in a Hijab, the Muslim head cover. Her heinous cold-blooded murder in a Germany courtroom has sent shockwaves across the Middle East and now it is spreading across the world.

Marwa was 31 and three months pregnant, when she appeared at a Dresden courtroom to testify against a man who had already been convicted of verbally attacking her by calling her a “terrorist” at a playground with her 3-year-old son. Instead of justice, Marwa and her family were met by a tragic fate.

On July 1st, in the Dresden courtroom, the same man identified only as Alex M. stabbed her 18 times in front of her son and husband. As her husband tried to defend her, he got his share of the stabbing and he was shot by a police officer who mistook him for the assailant. Marwa later died in the hospital. Her husband is still in critical condition.

Two Egyptian researchers at Dresden University, Mohammed Ahmed Khalif and Magdi Khalil, told CNN that on that fateful day, their trust in Germany was shattered.

"We have fear about our family here, about our children” said Khalif. He said he is disappointed by what he believes is a muted response by the German public and its politicians.

Khalil agrees with Khalif. He adds that some people in Germany could possibly harbor an anti-Muslim sentiment. He suggested twisting this around to see how people would react to the same story. “What do you think if we have an Egyptian guy who kills a German woman in a court? What do you think would happen,” he asked.

Germany’s government spokesperson Thomas Steg stressed that, “In Germany we cannot tolerate, right wing extremism, hatred of foreigners nor Islamophobia."

For many in Egypt and across the Middle East, this response came late and wasn’t enough.

Egyptians mourned the death of Marwa with shock and outrage. As it is customary in the Middle East when someone dies young, the 31-year-old pregnant mother was buried in a procession fit for a bride, while across the nation people continue to take to the streets in sympathy.

Underneath the sadness of mourning, anger is brewing at what people in the Middle East call a hate crime. They are moved by news reports of how Marwa died.

Many have taken to the streets, waving banners that call her stabbing death a hate crime and that it’s racially motivated. They say Marwa was killed because she's Muslim and wore the Muslim headscarf.

When they felt their calls for justice were going unnoticed, Egyptians along with other Arabs and supporters from around the world, took to the Internet, which has become the voice for the voiceless in the Middle East region.

On Twitter, they asked for sympathizers to spread the message that a life was lost and they want the world to pay attention.

They accused the media of failing to highlight the murder.

They criticized Europe in general and Germany in particular for becoming increasingly extreme towards minorities, especially Muslims.

And on Facebook, they asked for justice; calling for the harshest possible sentence for the assailant and an apology from Germany. They created pages where people can pay homage to a woman who has now become known simply as the "Martyr of the Hijab."

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soundoff (274 Responses)
  1. Carol

    This mother-to-be was relying, as we do, on the rule of law. She was killed in a courtroom where she, like we, would expect the rule of law to prevail and justice, not murder, to be done.

    The outcry on Marwa's behalf has to do with the perceived failure of Germany to value Marwa's life, the perceived racism behind that failure, and complacency at the fact that murder took place in a courtroom

    Magdi Khalil's question is one everyone should be asking - and answering: “What do you think if we have an Egyptian guy who kills a German woman in a court? What do you think would happen?”

    Asa is right: Islam does not call for violence and murder. And the tragic death of Marwa has nothing whatsoever to do with terrorism. As for Ray, well...don't expect this non-Muslim to bust out crying should someone unjustly commit violence on your person.

    July 10, 2009 at 7:19 pm |
  2. NiMH

    In the meantime, a Paris court just convicted a gang leader of the brutal 2006 killing of a young man prosecutors said was targeted because he was Jewish. Youssouf Fofana, 28, was one of 27 people on trial in the kidnapping, torture and murder of Ilan Halimi, who was 23 years old. Halimi was found naked, handcuffed and covered with burn marks near railroad tracks in the Essonne region south of Paris on Feb. 13, 2006. He died on the way to the hospital after being held captive for more than three weeks. A month after the start of the trial, Fofana admitted to having stabbed and set fire to Halimi, pouring flammable liquid over him and setting it alight.

    July 10, 2009 at 7:16 pm |
  3. Nora

    Vanessa, she was there cuz her husband got a grant to to study genetic engineering. they had a 3 year old boy and she was 3 months pregnant,

    July 10, 2009 at 7:13 pm |
  4. jigalong

    Germany, France and Italy should not allow Muslims in their countries, they create chaos and ill will. I think women covering their heads is just ridiculous and should be banned.

    July 10, 2009 at 7:12 pm |
  5. Caral

    Germany, and many other European countries, are reproducing at a rate of 1.1 approx, the "newcomers" – muslim immigrants – are reproducing at a MUCH larger rate. Literally there is the possibility of the native western civilization being overtaken within a few generations. While most Germans- or other Europeans – would never take to violence against muslims, and would also never condone it, I do know that there is beginning to be a groundswell of feeling against allowing any more immigration. The assimilation just has not taken place. I look for more strained relations among my homeland countries of Germany and France, unfortunately.

    Isa – the Koran says to take the sword to the neck of any who will not bend their knee to Mohammed. Of course most who follow the faith do not take this literally. But, to deny what the fundamentalists are responding to is not the answer. We must face facts, embrace the majority of moderate Muslims and work with them...but never turn a blind eye to the latent possibility of violence by those in the minority who sincerely believe they are doing Allah's bidding.

    July 10, 2009 at 7:12 pm |
  6. AustinDude

    This is disgusting. A woman is stabbed to death in front of her husband and young child. We should all be crying, Ray, whena tragedy like this unfolds, regardless of the person's nationaility, race or religion.

    This happened in a courtroom??? Where was the security at the courthouse to:
    a) prevent the accused from carrying a weapon (kind of a basic thing)?
    b) stop an attack in progress. She was stabbed 18 times??? Why was only the husband trying to stop the attack?

    These are the angles I am interested in, regardless of the person's religion. I feel for this family.

    July 10, 2009 at 7:11 pm |
  7. Mohammed.

    Ray killing a pregnant person and a Muslim Sister who wears the hijab is like killing mother theresa or Mary the mother of Jesus peace be upon him. The whole world today suffered, especially the West, it has lost its moral place. After a court room she was stabbed. The grovernment failed, The German filled.
    Don't worry about Muslims, worry about God no deed goes unpunished. And this also should be a message to Muslims everywhere the hijab is a symbol of pride. France, Turkey, Iran, and China. Wake up. Wake up. The clash of civilizations has begun and peace just died.

    July 10, 2009 at 7:10 pm |
  8. Nora

    3,000 Muslims were killed in the world trade center.

    July 10, 2009 at 7:08 pm |
  9. Jon - Austin, TX

    Ray: You are an idiot, and a moron, and a racist!!

    I don't care if this woman was muslim, black, white, brown, blue, or from Mars! She was 3 months pregnant and playing in a park with her 3 year old son! For ANYONE to brutally murder her in that way, IN A COURT OF LAW!!... and in front of her own children and family, is an absolute outrage!!

    We so easily forget that there were indeed MANY Muslims, and people of all faiths from all over the world, who were VERY outraged on 9/12... There was a tremendous amount of sympathy for the US in the days and weeks just after 9/11. We forget because the Bush administration squandered all of that good will in an unnecessary, unprovoked, probably illegal, and utterly mismanaged war in Iraq.

    Where was your outrage on April 19, 1995 - The day Tim McVeigh - A good old American white boy - brutally murdered 168 American's in Oklahoma City?

    This kind of stupidity - The idiot in Germany, the idiot in Yemen, and yes, the idiot in Jackson, MS - will only end when we ALL realize that all people from all parts of the world have far more in common with each other than we have differences.

    Can we all just STOP THE STUPIDITY???

    July 10, 2009 at 7:07 pm |
  10. Bertram Halbert

    Maybe its no coincidence that Ray is from Jackson, MS. Of course Mississippi was without question the worst place for Blacks post Civil War and during the modern Civil Rights era.

    Its a tradgedy what happened to this woman. This is a fact irrespective of her ethinicity or the ethinicities of those posting about it.

    July 10, 2009 at 7:06 pm |
  11. Claire M.

    This is a heinous crime, irrespective of who committed it. People fear or are uncomfortable with differences. And some teach their children to hate people who are different. This is one reason I strongly support public eduction. Children from all cultures and walks of life become accustomed to being around others who are from different cultures and they have an opportunity to learn not to fear or hate. It doesn't help that Islam is going through its own form of dark ages at the moment on the world stage. I imagine if the Spanish Inquisition were occurring now, there would be a lot of anti-Christian sentiment similar to the anti-Muslim sentiment we all know exists.

    July 10, 2009 at 7:05 pm |
  12. draconianmeasures

    Lori...how do you get from one to many?

    July 10, 2009 at 7:05 pm |
  13. dmc - US

    That is a terrible thing to say!! You are saying this poor woman and her unborn child, who did not live in Yemen, did not fly a plane on 9/11, has not blown up anyone with a roadside bomb was killed and because she was a member of the Muslim culture she deserved to die. WOW!!!

    In that case Blacks can blame White Americans who brought Africans to America against their will and sold and beat into slavery when a black man kills a white pregnant woman, they can say " Whites are getting what they put out in the universe on this one".

    You sound racist and should really be ashamed of yourself!!

    July 10, 2009 at 7:04 pm |
  14. Zane

    Hey Ray, are you comparing Germany to Yemen? That's like comparing NY to MS. You kinda expect more from Germany, especially when you can go to jail just for denying the holocaust. FYI, the muslim world is more afraid of extremism than the west, and are constantly foiling plots of terrorism there, sometimes they're too late. Let's not lose sight of the death of an innocent pregnant woman and her fetus. Remember her when you go to church Sunday.

    July 10, 2009 at 7:03 pm |
  15. dn

    right , just like all those drones with " pin-point " accuracy killing scores of old, young , non-combants almost daily . Or untold million plus in the last 8 yrs .
    And what has the US put out in the universe ? , add a couple million to that from Viet Namn , and where ever our greed has taken us , you and people like you are the problem , with little or no ideas as to the solution.

    July 10, 2009 at 7:02 pm |
  16. Michelle

    Ray –

    To put it lightly...you're an idiot. Muslim terrorists killing Germans in an act of terror is NOT the same. Were the Germans killed innocent? Yes. Was Marwa innocent? YES. She was specifically targeted BECAUSE she was Muslim IN AN ACT OF TERROR BY A GERMAN CITIZEN. Muslim terrorists are EXTREMISTS...what about that don't you get?! There are all sorts of extremists out there...Christian and Muslim alike. Do you think the Rev. Jim Jones wasn't a Christian extremist? Or Ted Kaczynski a domestic terrorist who could easily be identified as a Christian? But true Christians would say that he could NOT be a Christian due to his acts...and Muslims will argue that middle-eastern terrorists can not be TRUE Muslims due to their acts.

    Until people like you start realizing that the Islamic religion is NOT the cause of the problem, there will continue to be problems. Duh. Acts of anti-Americanism are based solely on the position that everyone in America feels and acts the same way that you do – that it is ONE set of beliefs AGAINST the other.

    You obviously have a skewed view on the Islamic religion...probably based on something you heard Bill O'Reilly say in his efforts for "fair and balanced news". Seriously, stop harboring YOUR radical views and the world will be a much better place. Thank you.

    July 10, 2009 at 7:02 pm |
  17. Allen N Wollscheidt

    As long as Islam continues to aspire to violent, forcible expansion and violent POLITICAL activism - including the control of the state and acts of internal and international terrorism, the wearing of the veil constitutes a deadly taunt to everyone not a muslim.

    I will not say that she deserved what she got but rather that she got what she could and should have anticipated.

    Of course, the perp[etrator is a murderer and deserves full punishment under the laws of Germany.

    July 10, 2009 at 7:02 pm |
  18. P. Bayless

    Indeed they did not cry with us in fact muslim women were seen dancing on the roofs of apt bldgs in New Jersy on 9/11. Bread cast on the waters comes back to you and there is such a back lash building in the rest of the world where those of us who are not violent are appalled and disgusted by the behavior we see. To the sort who will take any of them out as quick as look at them. From the dirty death look I got from a little old muslim woman at the icecream store because I was in front of her in line (I'm an old lady too by the way), to 9/11 they just arent nice people. I never had any feelings about muslims before 9/11. But now I have to ask does anyone besides me wonder why we still consider the Saudies to be our friends. Hello?? They arent nor are the North Koreans nor are Chinese. Wake up folks. Oh and by the way we are being invaded from the South has any one noticed that??? Neither of the mothers of the New Years babies born in Dallas could speak English and were both illegals.

    July 10, 2009 at 7:01 pm |
  19. Fifi

    A whole lot of foreigners have been slaughtered in Egypt – the shooting of the Greek bus tour group in Cairo & the massacre of dozens of tourists in the King's Valley, the bombings on the Red Sea come to mind (not to mention dozens more terror acts outside of Egypt on embassies, barracks, 9/11 etc). I don't recall Egyptians taking to the street in outrage over these hate crimes. That does not make this killing ok but the Muslim world needs to consider why even non-racist, open-minded people might feel some conflict about the Islamic world. I certainly have considered the reasons why many Muslims are not fond of the West – there are many legit reasons. It works both ways.

    July 10, 2009 at 7:01 pm |
  20. sean

    "He suggested twisting this around to see how people would react to the same story. “What do you think if we have an Egyptian guy who kills a German woman in a court? What do you think would happen,” he asked"

    Kahil can just do a little reseach for his answer. In 1998 I was inside a Cairo museum when an Muslim Egyptian fire-bombed a German tour bus parked outside killing more than a dozen Germans. News about it was hard to come by, but the only Egyptian response I heard was they claimed he was insane. Not sure if there was a German demonstrations over it to compare and contrast to this.

    July 10, 2009 at 6:59 pm |
  21. Wills

    I agree with Ray. It's time the Muslims understand they are putting themselves at risk and a disadvantage. I deplore this crime but it is fact and not going to go away any time soon. Stay in a Muslim country if you want to look and act like a Muslim. Your insistance to maintain your visible religious beliefs are now stirring up trouble everywhere.

    July 10, 2009 at 6:59 pm |
  22. T

    Why shouldn't we cry over the death of this innocent woman. When thousands have died in search of WMD's and none were found, but innocent Muslims paid with thier lives, girls were raped, and still no WMD's were found, then why shoud us,Muslims not cry over the unnecssary loss of this life!

    July 10, 2009 at 6:58 pm |
  23. Gina

    Ray, I understand your concern, but it's much easier said than done. Going out and protesting every single injustice in this world is impossible. You have to choose your battles. It's a much easier battle when the sides are clear and you know which one you're on.

    I think when 9/11 happened (and with other similar cases), Muslims were in utter shock that other "Muslims" carried that out. Many of them inititally wanted to believe that it was some American/Israeli consipiracy. No one wants to be associated with that kind of terrorism, including the vast majority of Muslims. It's sad and confusing to know that your "own people" can do something like that and coming up with a clear, simple, cohesive, response is more difficult. All the Muslims I have come into contact with (which have been thousands since I lived and traveled around the middle east) have been as distraught by these attacks (9/11, london, etc) as non Muslims. However, expressing those sentiments on a large scale in Muslim countries publicly requires a lot more work.

    July 10, 2009 at 6:58 pm |
  24. kate

    You sound sad and pathetic. How does that make her death excusable?

    July 10, 2009 at 6:57 pm |
  25. Mike

    Jackson's logic is errily Bin Ladin-esq.

    If I am not mistaken, Bin Ladin claimed that America "got what she had coming to her" because she starved hundereds of thousands of brown skinned Muslim children in Iraq and supported a European settler state's illegal occupation of Middle Eastern land...

    July 10, 2009 at 6:57 pm |
  26. Eric Henninger

    While this was a tragic incident, it was also a very isolated incident.
    If the Egyptian public wants to get upset about systematic injustice, they should look to how Copts are treated in their own country.

    July 10, 2009 at 6:57 pm |
  27. Xanadu

    THis is indeed sad and unfortunate and I feel badly for her and her family.

    What about all the muslim women who are regularly stoned to death by other muslims if they get RAPED?!!! Where is the Muslim outcry over that?

    July 10, 2009 at 6:56 pm |
  28. Mark

    Sorry Ray, you got that all twisted. Muslims won't dry out for the death of non-Muslims, just as we don't cry out for the death of Muslims. However everyone should. We should all cry out at the death of anyone who falls to the hands of intolerance and injustice. You go around saying that Muslims are only getting what they put out, and you will only create a self-fullfilling profecy. Americans will get back what they have put out. Just like dropping a poor kid into prison for doing drugs creates gansters, placing those that were at one time innocent of crimes into Gauntanamo, has turned them into monsters that we can't let loose. We need to stop this downward spiral and get over it. All life is dear, no matter who's it is.

    July 10, 2009 at 6:55 pm |
  29. A Edwards

    I am a 2nd generation American. My heritage is German. I am Roman Catholic. I have been married for 21 years to the same man. Many might say, “Oh, conservative” but I believe that everyone has the right to their own religion, opinion, heritage and sexual orientation, perhaps that makes me a “covert liberal”.

    How as a global community can we allow violence based on hate and bigotry to continue? Have our wars not taught us anything? Are we destined as a people to relive our past mistakes over and over again? I had hoped Germany, and yes the rest of the world, would take this useless killing to UNITE, instead all that we have been shown is that you will be judged and it isn’t necessarily on whether or not you broke the law but on how you “wear” your faith or what your heritage might or might not be.

    I will pray for her child – for him to find peace – in a world where peace doesn’t seem to matter anymore.

    July 10, 2009 at 6:55 pm |

    Ray I wanna see what you would do if someone killed your PREGNANT wife infront of you. Do you think before you talk.

    July 10, 2009 at 6:54 pm |
  31. Fred

    Ray, you are as guilty of hate crimes as those who pull the trigger.

    July 10, 2009 at 6:52 pm |
  32. Isa

    She was killed in a court room because she accused someone of calling her a terrorist. You don't judge individuals for the actions of other individuals, only because they share the same religion. Muslims were upset at the actions of others who call themselves "Muslims", maybe not upset enough to cry (but I'm sure some cried). After all, there is nothing in Islam that calls for violence and murder, check by yourself.

    July 10, 2009 at 6:52 pm |
  33. jimmadison

    On the same page where I clicked on this, there was a link to a story about a Florida church with a sign out front stating "Islam is of the Devil".

    When people sow hatred, that's what we'll reap.

    What disturbs me deeply is that most of these hatemongers are doing so in the name of Christ.

    Ray – Jackson, you have forgotten your history. There was an outcry against the 9-11 terrorists from the Muslim community around the world. It wasn't until we started claiming we were fighting a holy war against Islam and invading their countries that the voices of the moderate Muslims were drowned out by the radicals.

    July 10, 2009 at 6:52 pm |
  34. LW

    The killer should be punished according to Germany's laws. Since the crime happened in a courtroom in front of witnesses, there's really no doubt as to his guilt. He should not be punished any more or less because of the victim, but should be sentenced the same as other murderers who committed multiple murders of mother and child.

    July 10, 2009 at 6:50 pm |
  35. angela

    Coptic Christians have been persecuted by the majority Muslims in Egypt for centuries. Innocent Christians are being slaughtered by Muslims in the Philippines, Indonesia, Nigeria and the Sudan. Innocent Buddhists are being beheaded by Muslims in southern Thailand. Hindus are murdered regularly by Muslims in India and Pakistan. Centuries ago in Iran, Zoroastrians thrived; now, only a few thousands are left because of killings by Muslims. Let's not forget the slaughter of infidels in 9/11, London, Madrid, Bali and other places.The killing of one Muslim woman in Germany was committed by a hateful individual, whereas the slaughter of Christians, Jews and other non-Muslims by Muslims is SYSTEMATIC, because it is mandated by the Koran and the hatemongering Islamic clerics. Islam is NOT compatible with democracy and western values. If Muslims want respect from non-Muslims, they have to renounce all the violent passages in the Koran and other Islamic texts and adapt to the customs of their host western/democratic countries. For the time being, I have little sympathy for them.

    July 10, 2009 at 6:49 pm |
  36. Lea - Minneapolis, MN

    The fact that you have no sympathy for an innocent woman and unborn child is astounding. You can't group an entire race, religion or nationality together based on the actions of a few. I for one am a non-Muslim that thinks this was a horrific crime and I truly feel for her family and what effect this will have on her remaining child.

    July 10, 2009 at 6:49 pm |
  37. anonymous

    It is so sad to read comments like the one posted by Ray. "Muslims are getting what they put out into the universe" is such a disgusting thing to say. The moral of this story is that a woman was killed, her husband is in critical condition, and now what about her son? There is no justice in killing ANYONE, and comments like this only take us backward, to a place of separation and darkness.

    July 10, 2009 at 6:47 pm |
  38. Kaylee Marie

    This is so sad, especially because this poor woman was murdered while pregnant, and in front of her 3 year old. That child must be scarred for life.

    July 10, 2009 at 6:46 pm |
  39. Deb Manabe

    Oh Ray! It's people like you that make the world go down!!! Come out of the cave you've been living in and open your mind and eyes and stop being such an idiot!

    July 10, 2009 at 6:45 pm |
  40. Megan - Chicago, IL

    This is just a tragedy. So many messed up people in the world.

    July 10, 2009 at 6:45 pm |
  41. TJ

    That is the most ridiculous and ignorant response I've ever seen! One death doesn't make another right.

    July 10, 2009 at 6:44 pm |
  42. Bob

    Remember, Islam is the largest religion in the world. It may be convienant to lump terrorists in with those of the Muslim faith but thats ignorant. Most muslims dont "put out" the negative karma you are referring to and the majority of them are not fundamentalists.

    July 10, 2009 at 6:43 pm |
  43. Not Ray

    Ray, you are a complete PUTZ. This woman was targeting NO ONE. She was targeted because she practices a peaceful, non-violent religion. You can't possible be so idiotic to think that extreme muslims are the majority? Well maybe you are. Too sad. Killing someone for their religion goes against everything America stands for. I'm guessing you are a conservative American. I would think you would stand against things that violate the ideals of this nation. I am sorry that i come from the same great nation that spawned you.

    July 10, 2009 at 6:41 pm |
  44. alex

    thumps up..completley agree

    July 10, 2009 at 6:39 pm |
  45. Ahmad

    Thank you for giving this story some recognition. The failure to do so in a world where the media typically sensationalizes violent crime would serve only to keep people in the dark about the real danger that even the most peaceful Muslims face because of the growing disdain towards them.

    July 10, 2009 at 6:39 pm |
  46. Vanessa

    So why didn't she just stay in her home country??? The muslims, in Europe, need to assimilate or not come. The reason they do is because they are there to suck the social system dry.

    July 10, 2009 at 6:39 pm |
  47. richard h. levenson

    To condemn all of Germany because one person from the formerly Communist part of Germany acts like a monster - that's ridiculous. Besides, Muslims in Egypt have persecuted and killed minorities over and over - foreigners (including tourists), Egyptian Coptic Christians, Jews (before they were chased out). I remember an Egyptian who murdered a bunch of Israeli tourists and was hailed as a hero by many Egyptians. And let's not forget next door, Sudanese Arab persecution and mass murder of Black Sudanese. To say that this one disgusting incident, condemned by the German government, has victimized all Egyptians is just another example of how some people will grab any chance to bash the West.

    July 10, 2009 at 6:37 pm |
  48. Gina

    This sad story shows that extremism is not limited to Muslims. Where are the outcries against Christianity or Athiesm or whatever the murderer's religion was? If it was the other way around, there would be numerous comments on how "barbaric" or "violent" Islam is, as I've seen on similar articles where the perpetrator happened to be Muslim. Yet all i see here is shameful silence with no comments.

    The reality is that the vast majority of crime in this world is not committed by Muslims. As sad as this story is, I hope her murder won't be in vain and will teach people that hate and misguided beliefs can exist among anyone of any faith. I hope people remember Marwa, her unborn child, and her brave, loving, husband, before they utter or think of an Islamophobic comment. May they rest in peace.

    July 10, 2009 at 6:36 pm |
  49. Lori

    That is terrible. I think the hatred for Muslims in much of Europe today is similar to how they felt towards the Jews pre-World War II. I have a European friend who tells me Americans are close-minded and uptight, but from the looks of things, many Europeans are not any too open-minded or tolerant.

    July 10, 2009 at 6:34 pm |
  50. Ray - Jackson, MS

    Weren't some Germans just killed by muslim terrorrist in Yemen and there was not out cry from the muslim world now was there? If they weren't German they were from another European country. There was no out cry from the Muslim world on 9/11. There was no out cry from the Muslim worl when London was attacked. Don't expect non-Muslims to bust out crying over this woman. Muslims are getting what they put out in the universe on this one.

    July 10, 2009 at 6:32 pm |
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