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May 18th, 2009
03:49 PM ET

Pots and Kettles

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Tanya M. Acker
AC360° Contributor
Attorney

A “hag,” is how one conservative commentator described Speaker Pelosi, as he discussed the current controversy over “what she knew and when she knew it” with respect to the CIA’s interrogation techniques.

Really? A “hag”?

The issue of whether the Speaker is a hypocrite has very little to do with whether the interrogation techniques at issue are illegal – but fine. If you want to go down the road of discussing who may or may not be a hypocrite in Washington I think that people on both sides of the aisle would welcome that debate.

But must we really indulge the sexism and misogyny? Just as many conservatives have found a way to criticize President Obama without resorting to racist and other hateful rhetoric, one certainly can have a debate about the Speaker’s good faith without the silly references to “Botox” and facelifts.

(And, by the way, it might be a bit more understandable if those engaging in these attacks could themselves boast of possessing a George Clooney/Clive Owen/Brad Pitt/Daniel Craig aesthetic. But methinks they do not. Indeed, what is the male version of a hag? A balding pot-bellied ass? And as between pharmaceuticals, one might wonder if Botox is preferable to Oxycontin).

Come now, gentlemen.

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soundoff (19 Responses)
  1. Art

    I don't think we should go that route either, but in the same breath, there all guilty. Alot of people knew and did nothing. Another fine example of integrity from washington.

    May 19, 2009 at 5:51 am |
  2. ANDY

    THE QUESTION; WAS N.P. BRIEFED OF WATERBOARDING BY THE CIA IN 2003? (REGARDLESS OF BEING ILLEGAL OR NOT)ACCORDING TO CIA DIRECTOR L.P. YES.. N.P. SAYS NO.. WHO'S LYING??

    May 19, 2009 at 2:50 am |
  3. cari machet ismaeel

    ac why so plastic head with gergen on this issue? have you and gergen become one big white guy? you seems to be trying to stab at pelosi with your questions of gergen – try watching rachel madow and keith olberman for some helpful hints on reality and tips on how to take off the plastic head you are wearing – i can't watch your show anymore – the only thing real on it is erica hill maybe there is some way i can just watch her parts

    May 19, 2009 at 2:43 am |
  4. Bill in Dallas

    LAC: Listening to you tonight confirms that the Republican have again won the media to their side in this controversy regarding Speaker Pelosi. She stands by her statement that she was not briefed on torture but only it was being studied. Former Senator Bob Graham said that the CIA had him being briefed on dates he says he did not attend the briefings. Senator Rockafeller also has been a victim of false CIA information. Even Paneta says it is up to the Congress to decide. There is no smoking gun, but the press has really piled on the Speaker and allowed the issue of torture which was implimented by Republicans to go unanswered. Given to two sins I would rather be on the side of being confused about a briefing than to be the party that implimented the torture in violation to US and international law. Where is your indignation to this? When did Congressman Boshner first know about torture and what did he and his colleagues do about it? That gets lost. Hypocracy; is practiced by both politicians and the new media. The media got the Iraq war wrong and did not do their job and they are about to let that happen again. AC you get everything but the point and you all have a hard time getting to it.

    May 19, 2009 at 2:32 am |
  5. Jim

    The Comentator was being mild – as you cannot say or print what some of us think 😉

    May 19, 2009 at 12:35 am |
  6. Michelle - St Augustine, FL

    Republicans are using the Rowe handbook to the tee. The Republicans need to ask why Saxby Chamblis and Randy Hoekstral were not asked if they knew about the interogation techniques. They too were on the same commitee as Pelosi. They too recieved the same briefing as she did but you dont see them asking for their head. It is the Republican master diversion. They want to devert the public away from the true Problem. Torture happened on Bush's watch, 9/11 happened on Bush's watch, and Bush fabricated intelligence to start the Iraq war. Republicans dont want to be reminded that they too are part of this problem. But true to their attitude they dont want to be part of the solution.

    May 18, 2009 at 11:40 pm |
  7. Fred J. Pace

    A.C., How about someone asking Congressman Boehner if he
    was aware that the detainee's were being tortured. When did he become aware that torture was being used. If he endorsed the torture of the detainee's. If he didn't endorse the torturing of detainees what did he do about it? Mr Boehner should be questioning George W. Bush , Dick Cheyney. The torture was the choice of the previous admin.

    May 18, 2009 at 10:36 pm |
  8. Jim Wright

    Has no sense of reality, lived in California to long.

    May 18, 2009 at 9:47 pm |
  9. Lampe

    I guess you could say that's as bad ad Axelrod comparing Ms. California to a dog. I mean you are offended by both RIGHT?

    May 18, 2009 at 9:20 pm |
  10. Sallie

    Why is it that no one on the media has said anything about Dennie Hastert, the Speaker of the House in 2002? Why would all breifing about torture (ie waterboarding) reside with the minority party (at the time) and not the Speaker? Why is there all this colleccctive media water carrying for the GOP? This is just the kind of media elephant stampede that led us away from really investigating the Bush administration for all the lies that were told.

    May 18, 2009 at 9:12 pm |
  11. Annie Kate

    Congress not only doesn't do the work they are elected to do but they sit around and call each other names like the children on a middle school playground. They need to act like the grown ups they say they are and get back to work. And at least one person owes Speaker Pelosi an apology.

    May 18, 2009 at 8:09 pm |
  12. Gary

    I would not call Pelosi a hag I would call her a person with mental health needs . She apparently has unexplained hatred for the former president and those who kept our country safe. It is amazing that her constituents re-elected her with these mental health issues.

    May 18, 2009 at 7:54 pm |
  13. naqib

    You're right... much like tea baggers, pigs, sweetie... we need to be a little more respectful... even if she is a hag.

    As far as who did what... if you knew... and let it go... you are a wrong as Manson... who never actually killed anyone... or went in the house... but knew full well what was going on.

    Many nazi's didn't make the call.. but did look the other way. Not that this is in that realm... but the ignorance plea is BS... EVERYONE who knew and didn't complain walked right down that road with Cheney... PERIOD

    May 18, 2009 at 7:50 pm |
  14. Nephesh Amarcusa

    Did Pelosi get caught with her hand in the cookie jar or has she been telling who all has been in the jar ? Yes I believe that she should lose here position if she cannot prove that the CIA had lied about torture practices. She is third in line as head of the country and should govern with more confidence in herself and position. That being said, no one is above the law. All people involved in deceiving the American public, and our allies by making a mockery of the United States code of conduct need to be ousted for their participation. However, I do not believe Pelosi should resigned or be removed without pulling the root of out of this pasture of lies first.
    I am pretty sure that "We The People" will not here any truth come out of this but, we can regain some confidence in our government and constitution if those in power are treated and dealt with as equals under the law.

    May 18, 2009 at 6:33 pm |
  15. Nephesh Amarcusa

    Did Pelosi get caught with her hand in the cookie jar or has she been telling who all has been in the jar ? Yes I believe that she should lose here position if she cannot prove that the CIA had lied about torture practices. She is third in line as head of the country and should govern with more confidence in herself and position. That being said, no one is above the law. All people involved in deceiving the American public, and our allies by making a mockery of the United State code of conduct need to be ousted for their participation. However, I do not believe Pelosi should resigned or be removed without pulling the root of out of this pasture of lies first.
    I am pretty sure that "We The People" will not here any truth come out of this but, we can regain some confidence in our government and constitution if those in power are treated and dealt with as equals under the law.

    May 18, 2009 at 6:30 pm |
  16. Tim Gibson

    A hag is a wizened old woman often seen as malevolent, a female demon. Perhaps in this sense hag would be the term to use in representation of Pelosi.

    She has sounded like a donkey in the barnyard and her sounds must have merit of proof to claim her song. As a registered donkey myself I do not enjoy the occupation or the work of Pelosi. I find that her conduct leaves a taste in my mouth left better untasted. She is framing the truth that all was well with the torture menu, that all fell into support of either directly or indirectly and that all must be held to account for their actions. No one is above the law and no one should be allowed the freedom from the evil they bring upon the people they aspire to protect and serve.

    May 18, 2009 at 6:01 pm |
  17. Michelle Johnson, Lomita, CA

    Thank you for writing this, Ms. Acker; your words mirror my thoughts exactly. Pelosi has become a handy target for woman-hating politicians to spew their venom. Conservatives en masse are attacking her when many people in both parties are at fault. Why is the president letting her take all the heat without supporting her, and why are women's rights groups so silent? Nancy Pelosi, Miss California under attack as women–is this becoming a trend??

    May 18, 2009 at 5:43 pm |
  18. Terry, TX

    Really Tanya...this is CNN who presents articles from the Huffington Post. The hate spew rag. Why even write about it when you dish out the same thing about Republicans. The hypocrisy is your writing...and Speaker Pelosi is just a liar...in her own words....get over it.
    You should be listed as a Democrat AC360 contributor.

    May 18, 2009 at 5:42 pm |
  19. Lisa in CA

    Haven't you learned? The "rules" don't apply to them; and lest you use the "rules" on them, they cry 'foul'.

    May 18, 2009 at 5:21 pm |