Live Blog from the Anchor Desk 04/23/09
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When they feel adults can't help them in school that is child neglect.
Now that this is the second child suicide in two weeks the schools need to do something now! This is getting extremely serious
Again I speak:
The pain that is within us, follow us until to the end, some days more, other days less. This pain puts to the test our will to survive.
This issue is about the taunts-and the words that are used and the value judgements that go with them–that are so harmful. Folks need to pay attention to what goes on. I work in a school and see this and defend these kids every day. This is part of why kids dont feel safe at school.
you can't stop a human condition. we bully...the schools need to learn a different approach.
How many more innocent kids will be driven to suicide because of bullying–it is also very disturbing that being gay or the perception of being gay is seen so negatively by some in this country. Schools need to do more to educate kids AND parents–Jaheem's story is incredibly sad.
these suicides after relentless bullying are beyond disturbing. david made an interesting point in his blog about Jaheem's story – i pasted it below:
One expert told me how this is a wake up call that everyone should pay attention to. One study shows 65 percent of teens are bullied in a single year. Bullies have been around since there have been schools. My question is, “Why did we need a wake up call at all?”
The second tragic death of a child in the last month. We simply aren't doing enough, and this should serve as a huge wake-up call to schools across the country. Heartbreaking.
Dear, Lord! This is insane.
I wonder if exposure, which is the best teacher, is giving children the ideas to do these things.
@Dennis, Cheney is asking that the very evidence you want to see get declassified and made public.
Schools really need to have a zero tolerance policy when it comes to bullying...something has to be done...I don't care if it means suspending half the school if it save one young child's life then its worth it...
Oh god, why is this suicide of a child happening again? I hope those parents sue that school district for everything they are worth and more. It won't bring their boy back but maybe it will send a shiver through schools all over the country.
What an utter failure on the part of educators.
This waterboarding situation is something we needed to do. How many Americans will we lose before we realize this. We could play like all the terrorists, what fairs for them is never fair for all.
As for bullying in the schools:
We have a responsibility to teach some common sense morality to everyone & the place to do that is obviously in school.
Case in point: Bullying comes from a weakness of character and the feeling that one needs to push people below them in some way to assuage their inner doubts.
Kids should know that bullying and being able to think of other people as somehow being less than you is a sign of weakness. You can only show true strength by lifting up those around you on your shoulders and helping them move forward.
Stephen
Virginia Beach
If Bush and Cheney thought that what they were planning to do was not against the Geneva Conventions, why did they have their legal "team" rewrite the laws.
Anderson,
The argument that waterboarding is permissible because it may have been prevenative or productive, is weak and cognitively distorted!
Dr. Allen
The problem with the Geneva convention is that terrorist never signed them, so they dont have to abide by them.
I hope the 11 year old children being suicidal is not the beginning of the common....
I find it amazing how somewhere in the process we have forgotten about 9/11. The folks who want to see us dead have no rule book. It is an amazing time to live through. Let's see what happens next.
so sad that someone has to end up killing themselves because of bullying......that's why I turned to stand up....
Another boy?
It's so sad!
Society should learn from their mistakes.
When–When will we wake up to the effects and the HARM of bullying. Events like Columbine, VA Tech (while those individuals were not stable) if we continue to act as if bullying is normal, this WILL CONTINUE. Finally we are beginning to see the damage of taunts like "fag", "gay," etc. These are not just words and school personnel and parents need to pay attention!!!! Totally preventable and shame on us.
Now that they know Obama is in charge in the U.S. the Taliban has gained new confidence. Maybe this is part of the "challenge" Biden was talking about. Hillary Clinton can threaten all she wants, but the Talliban have no respect for women, they couldn't care less what she says.
It's true and quite proven lifestyle is a big factor to living long life. Ofcourse family and friends are essential too. 🙂
Milk and Honey are for healthier life.
I'd like to know who decided to remove Integrity from the Stars and Strips? Oh, it was Dick Cheney...my bad
@Anna, Abu Grag was not done as part of an interrogation. It was a loss of discipline in which poorly supervised soldiers took it on themselves to do what they did. They were prosecuted correctly.
Contrary to Carville tonight and Begala last night, we did not execute the seven Japanese officials because they participated in waterboarding. They were executed because they were responsible for the MURDER of thousands of civilians during WWII.
Carville and Begala need to stop taking a small piece from that trial and spinning it for their political argument.
Perhaps Carville and Begala need to review the facts a little closer when they have their nightly conference calls with Emanuel.
Loved the way Fareed explained the situation.....
Someone else asked a very relevant question in here.
Would you torture someone if your child's life depended on it??? It is easy for us to discuss this and judge. We were not there.
well if military in training go through these things then thats there choice to do so. but when its about interrogation then there has to be boundries. when that guy says that the military goes through this, thats cause they want them to be able to withstain those type of interrogations. sounds like vietcong treatment of torture by the usa.
Waterboarding should never be used? Even it it prevented an attack in Los Angeles? Tell that to the mother of a person blown up by terrorists. Remember people jumping to their death on 9/11? If we could have prevented that horror by torture I would have been all for it. We need to respect the human rights of innocent people who are potential victims.
I am confused as to why the Pakistani army does not know how to fight an insurgent war. They have been fighting in the mountains for years...didn't that teach the army how to use insurgent tactics?
I am most concerned with what is going on in Pakistant and pray that we do not have to help them too! We don't have enough military as it is now.
And it's obvious that the Taliban has all but declared that Pakistan is non muslim and therefore subject to further take over by them. Very, very scary.
If "honey" is the secret - I may live forever!
Anna, perfect point. Apparently it was torture enough for underlings to go to prison or be driven out of the military like that woman general was. Yet when lawyers in the White House, Cheney, and Rice knew about it and approved of it, that's OK!!! Once again, HYPOCRISY!
When al-qaeda kills people around the world by using all the insane means to destroy life, or decapitation of humans, they do not care about laws nor Geneva convention rules.
@Mike Syracuse, NY – The Supreme Court in 2006 said the Geneva Conventions also applied to the prisoners we captured.
What if the Bush administration had felt they needed information from a US citizen which would prevent a terrorist attack? They already demonstrated a willingness to break the law and eavesdrop on US citizens. If one takes their rationalization of torture to the logical conclusion, it would not be a far stretch to imagine that they could use torture domestically as well. And once that precedent was established, it would not be long before torture was used for politically motivated reasons. We are on a very dangerous and slippery slope. We must completely reverse course, and make sure this never happens again.
Heeey YALL! HAPPY THURSDAY!
What on earth is going on with these young children being bullied? And why are they killing themselves...? this is just bizzare
When–When will we wake up to the effects and the HARM
Fareed paints a disturbing picture. Can't they fly over and drop a few bombs on the Taliban? I guess that would be too easy.
If these guys were waterboarded 186 times and it is so terrible, why are they still functional enough to continue expressing their pride in killing Americans?
@Isabel, the necessity of defense, the extreme situation of the terrorist attacks does explain why the techniques were employed but do not justify the use of the extreme interrogation methods. As you said for a prisoner to be in fear for their life is terrible. The effects of making someone fearful for their own safety, esp someone at the mercy of a detention facility would undoubtedly be long lasting.
Faree-thank you for saying Pakistan is in denial! Finally someone can say it.
I agree with the other blogger-why is the ACLU in this?
So Iran is ignoring this new threat by the Taliban becuase they are too focused on India...It sounds like they need help but seem helpless.
I really don't think those photos should be released...we've seen the torture memos..enough is enough.
@Roseline
That's the point. Keep the population pointing fingers at each other and keep them confused, the story will blow over like eveything else. That's always been the point; keeping the masses confused.
People need to wake up and demand the truth, even if it isn't rosey.
It doesn't surprise me that the previous administration told us one thing regarding torture, yet did another. I think that all torture is wrong. We Americans are better than that. We should provide a better example for other countries to follow.
Hey Anderson.....I tried the crabcakes at the Oceana Grill today. They were GREAT!
And Megan,
Freedom is one of the most precious assets of life!
The Geneva Convention applied to ALL captives, plus it was the Bush administration that called Iraq a war. Sooooo, in other words, it is a war when it is politically needed to be called such and yet the people captured are now POWs. Boy Mike, surprised you didn't recognize hypocrisy because you have just proven to be one.