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February 16th, 2009
12:32 PM ET

The test of time

[cnn-photo-caption image=http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/images/02/16/art.bush1.gi.jpg caption="Historians have ranked Bush the seventh worst president."]

Steve Brusk
Senior National Editor

Perhaps former President George W. Bush can take solace from the example of Ulysses S. Grant.

The first historical ranking of Presidents has been released since Mr. Bush left office last month, and his initial score is not a kind one. The C-SPAN Historians Presidential Survey puts Bush in the bottom tier of Chief Executives, at #36, slightly ahead of Millard Fillmore.

But Bush has made it clear he wasn’t worried about the first judgments on his presidency. At his final White House news conference, he said “there is no such thing as short-term history.”

Saying, “I don’t think you can possibly get the full breadth of an administration until time has passed,” Bush said he believes the longer view will look more favorably on his handling of Iraq and the economy. The C-SPAN survey of 65 presidential historians ranked him #40 on the economy, ahead of only Herbert Hoover and survey bottom-dweller James Buchanan. His International Relations rating was #41.

Bush’s defenders often point to the example of Harry Truman, not popular as he left office but now judged the fifth greatest president in our history.

And the new survey shows how time can change perspectives. For better than 100 years, Grant has been considered one of the poorer presidents, a victim of corruption, poor relations with Congress and an ineffective record. In C-SPAN’s first survey of historians in 2000, Grant was ranked near the bottom at #33. But this time, Grant made the biggest jump, rising ten spots to #23.

New focus on his record after the Civil War, and even a bounce from all the attention on Abraham Lincoln may have helped Grant. (Lincoln was again at the top of the survey). Howard University historian Edna Greene Medford told C-SPAN’s Washington Journal that “Grant won the war for Lincoln” and that the totality of his career may be improving his presidential stature.

Ronald Reagan saw a slight improvement, but one that now puts him the top ten. He moved from #11 to #10. George H.W. Bush moved up two places, to #18.

Former President Bill Clinton, considered by many historians a tough commander in chief to judge, rose in the new survey from #21 to #15. George Mason University Scholar in Resident said on Washington Journal Clinton’s numbers show “it is difficult to get a fix on a President who has just left office, particularly if he is a polarizing figure.”

But not all recent presidents fared as well. Jimmy Carter dropped from #22 to #25. Rice University Historian Douglas Brinkley told C-SPAN controversy over Carter’s Middle East comments in recent years hurt his standing, and cost him points in the areas where he was rated the strongest.

And a president’s place in history doesn’t always improve with time. Many of the presidents judged poorly in their time remain near the bottom in the view of experts. A James Buchanan revision seems unlikely in any future surveys.

The view of history isn’t always perfect…with many judgments subjective and superficial matters even years later affecting perceptions. But in a world where instant analysis sometimes isn’t fast enough (one columnist last week even raised the question if President Obama’s presidency is already a failure amid the stimulus debate, less than 30 days in), there’s great benefit in stopping for a moment to reflect on the test of time.

Bush (43, that is, not 41) said as he left office the standard for history should be “did a president’s decisions have the impact that he thought they would, over time? Or how did this president compare to future presidents, given a set of circumstances that may be similar or not similar”?

Future surveys will help tell if Mr. Bush’s comparison is ever any kinder.

soundoff (94 Responses)
  1. lomprie koroma

    I don't need a pole to consider Bush as the worst prisident in history, cause i;ve already made up my mind due to the following reasons.

    1. stealing a general election
    2. Going to war under false pretences
    3. Killing million of people as a result of the war in iraq
    4. Torture
    5. Invasion of our privacy through wire tapping of millions of american.
    6. A fail economy policy.
    7. The most corrupt justic department in the history of this country.

    If anyone have a doubt on this facts, means you haven't been leaving in america for the past eight year.

    February 16, 2009 at 8:04 pm |
  2. jerry kasmauski

    As far as I,m concerned, the lies and disregard against the people of the U.S. should be enough to put this smirking loser in prison. He has destroyed us as a country, lost all respect from foreign countrys, Now we have to try to rebuild everything.

    February 16, 2009 at 8:01 pm |
  3. Joel Hoff

    George W. Bush did not create the current financial and economic crisis; its deep roots go back 30 years and have *many* contributors, including Bill Clinton. Clinton approved into law the elimination of the Glass-Steagall division between banks and investment banks, thus contributing to the deregulation of this industry. It is too soon to say whether Bush's actions were a net positive or negative in this crisis, but the problems would have eventually arisen for some president as our entire nation has been living on too much financial leverage for a a long time.

    Bush is unlikely to ever be regarded as a great president, but he was far from being one of the worst. Unfortunately, current perception is colored by the hyper-polarization of modern politics.

    February 16, 2009 at 7:58 pm |
  4. Borat

    Gotta love American justice system- when a criminal kills- he goes to jail for life. When a president kills, he's off the hook. All because of money. The corporate war mongering machine of America will allow any crime to pass as long as it makes them big bucks. So here we have it ladies and gentlemen- welcome to the machine, as Pink puts it.

    February 16, 2009 at 7:57 pm |
  5. Joe

    George W. Bush is by far the worst president in US history.

    February 16, 2009 at 7:48 pm |
  6. Lloyd Houston, TX

    While I was never fond of President George W. Bush, I do believe that history may view him more favorably than we do now. No single president or party can be assigned the blame for all our current woes.

    That being said, however, I believe that George W. Bush's legacy is inexorably tied to the war on terror and the U.S. post 9/11 actions. For better or worse, President Bush will be little remembered for anything he did between January 2000 and September 10, 2001.

    The democratic congress, however, will likely not fare any better in history than does President Bush. They fully supported the war in Iraq and generally voted with the President on all of his proposals. It is very hypocritical of them to now stand back and say what a terrible president he was.

    February 16, 2009 at 7:48 pm |
  7. BLOGGER

    Your right by 2549 he bill probably be the 10th worst president, but by then we will be on #200. He will rank higher then Gigior the geneticly
    modified dog who was elected in 2344.

    February 16, 2009 at 7:46 pm |
  8. CaseyJ - Palm Springs, CA

    A question for history experts: Is Bush the only President to invade and occupy a country?

    How did he ever get all the way up to #36 (from 44)? What is it that people don't get? I still can't decide whether I think Laura Bush is a saint or a fool.

    February 16, 2009 at 7:44 pm |
  9. Jane

    GEORGE BUSH IS THE BEST PRESIDENT WE HAVE EVER HAD OR EVER WILL HAVE. He did not have an affair with ann intern that everyone just looked over, he did not make oral sex acceptable – the Clintons are pathetic, Bill Clinton doing his thing and poor, old, Hillary trying her best to stay in the limelight. Of course, Democats would not like a president that was a Christian, had faith and lived by it. Obama has no faith at all or he could not possibly believe in abortion, same-sex marriage. He had no more experience in being president than did Sarah Palin. We would have been better off with her. She was not so arrogant as he is. George Bush was the best and people can't stand for other people to do what is right. But that is okay, God will take care of the Bushes, because they believe in him.

    February 16, 2009 at 7:44 pm |
  10. Steve in k.c.

    Dear Coop:

    I want to tell you a great story about some details of a list that I'm not going to show you. Painfull...really.

    February 16, 2009 at 7:43 pm |
  11. Charles

    George W. Bush is the worst president in history, bar none. He will never climb up from the bottom.

    February 16, 2009 at 7:42 pm |
  12. Bob

    Liberal historians will put what they believe, just as liberal news will put forth their agenda. A truer and more realistic poll is when people have had several years to digest the events that have transpired in perspective and more truth comes out and are declassified. I have disagreed with more things that Bush did than not but I also believe history will prove he wasn't a terrible President. Look at Grant and how he jumped 10 spots; the same will happen with Bush.

    February 16, 2009 at 7:40 pm |
  13. Gene

    People should really study our history – not just parrot the political nonsense so prevalent nowadays. Lincoln and FDR both did far more damage to the Constitution and the economies of their time than Bush did. Both were saved (politically, anyway) by wars, and, in Lincoln's case, a war he had no small part in bringing about.

    In addition, Lincoln, far from being a "great emancipator" – he freed no slaves in the Union, only used the slavery card as his last resort to breathe new political life into an increasingly unpopular war – a war, by the way, of highly dubious Constitutionality itself.

    February 16, 2009 at 7:39 pm |
  14. Stopwar

    George Walker Bush belongs in a cell, not a poll.

    February 16, 2009 at 7:39 pm |
  15. interesante

    I find it curious that we call certain presidents (Bush) war criminals, yet let presidents like Kennedy (who walked ass backwards into Bay of Pigs) and Jackson (slaughterer of natives and a raging racist) walk free.

    February 16, 2009 at 7:39 pm |
  16. Hoping to survive

    Bush #36 out of 44...I hate to think we've experienced worse Presidents than Bush Jr.!!!!!!

    We will be lucky to literally survive the damage Bush caused the world! The damage to the planet alone makes him the worst. Incredible to think Bush/Rove STOLE the 2000 election with the backdoor dealing in Florida. We would have had our duly elected Gore...exactly who we needed to steer us out of this environmental damage that has probably gone too far to recover from.

    The criminals from the Nixon administration had much to do with the crimes we are all suffering the aftermath of now. Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rove...they were all in the crooked Nixon administration along with Bush's administration. They drained the life blood out of the U.S., transfered the wealth from the middle class to very rich, tortured, falsified scientist reports on the planet's health with what I only can describe as evil.

    Bush WILL go further down in the ratings as the damage is shown over time...his name will be cursed for centuries to come.

    February 16, 2009 at 7:37 pm |
  17. john great grandson of civil war vet

    it is indeed too bad that the rankings only go this low. we should perhaps instead rank the 1000 or so leaders in western civ and see where in the 900s w ranks.

    the distinction between him and lo demas is that stupid and incompentent as he tho' they were, they did much less harm. in other words, they knew their limits and they did not punish the country for them.

    February 16, 2009 at 7:35 pm |
  18. Jesse in Maryland

    Bush's legacy will not be really settled for decades at least. The major components of his legacy are still being decided (Iraq, Afghanistan, etc.). No judgment of legacy will be possible until the outcome of these components is known. Those who claim to "know" his legacy now are playing politics, not engaging in the discipline of history.

    In terms of the economy and other major blunders, he hardly bears all the responsibilities. I would love to see a similar survey conducted regarding the best and worst Congresses in history. The Congress of Reid and Pelosi would likewise have to be ranked in the bottom five, if their consistently-lower-than-Bush's approval rating is any indication.

    Finally, I would also point out that Bush's ranking in the "Pursued Equal Justice For All" section is 24, right in the middle. He may have been a bad president in some areas (fiscal responsibility, for one example), but he certainly shone in others. Any fair-minded person would have to agree.

    February 16, 2009 at 7:28 pm |
  19. Steve M

    GW's reputation will only get worse, over time, as historians fully comprehend the long term negative effects of his presidency.
    Obama's term(s) will be an interesting contrast to say the least!

    February 16, 2009 at 7:26 pm |
  20. Cindy

    No doubt Carter was far worse than Bush.

    Enough said!

    February 16, 2009 at 7:26 pm |
  21. Anna Amed

    Bush is the worst President ever. He got Trillion $$ surplus and put us in not needed war. Killed more people than Saddam Hussain and made the world more unsafe. History will tell that he has made IRAN a super power in that region and may create bigger problem, including Third world war.
    He is suppose to pay back every penny he has taken from Great American people. Let him have a job in restaurant or Gas station.
    What a shame!!!!!!

    February 16, 2009 at 7:26 pm |
  22. Dave

    Bush is an idiot. It really gauls me to think we have to pay him a retirement when he is responsible for ruining so many other people's retirements. I don't think anyone in our history has done more damage to our Constitution and legal system than George W. He and all his cohorts deserve to be in jail.

    February 16, 2009 at 7:25 pm |
  23. Pablo

    It really is too early to judge the George W. Bush presidency. Hopefully, President Obama will help this process along by declassifying records on torture, domestic spying, the decision to invade Iraq, the response to Hurricane Katrina, the full role of Vice President Cheney in the fiasco of his boss's administration, the full role of the Congressional leadership, etc., that will transform the truth about these things from closely guarded state secret into documented fact.

    Once the full scope of what Dubya's did becomes known to history, i would be surprised if he didn't drop into the bottom 5 (or the bottom 2 for that matter) until (God forbid) someone worse comes along.

    I mean, once you've seen Dubya in action, ol' Ulysses S. Grant doesn't seem like such a bad president – in comparison....

    February 16, 2009 at 7:19 pm |
  24. Carol B.

    He'll always have a warm spot in the hearts of friends who received giant tax breaks.

    February 16, 2009 at 7:18 pm |
  25. Dave Majumdar

    Bush might rise in the rankings if, and only if, Iraq actually works out in the end with a positive outcome for us- but I think it'll go down as an unnecessary war fought for a small man's ego and the ideological ramblings of the extreme right wing. But there's still the matter of Bush managing to complete destroy the economy... so he'll come out with a net negative. Perhaps like he'll be remembered as America's Nero... plying the fiddle as the country burns. Hopefully, Obama will play the part of Vespasian who rescued Rome after Nero's disastrous reign.

    February 16, 2009 at 7:14 pm |
  26. Chris Ford

    I would judge primarily on how consequential the Leader was, and what of what he did has stood the test of time. Far less on scandal or applying today's morality to people like Andrew Jackson,,,

    The most consequential leader was Washington, the indispensible Leader. Who then showed just how indispensible he was by voluntarily stepping down, walking away from high power showing even the indispensible man must honor the indispensible system America had created for good governance..

    Lincoln? Without Lincoln? Well, we know that slavery had ended peacefully everywhere else in the Americas and the Caribbean by 1888, save for Haiti then Lincoln's war. Ended because it was uneconomical with farm mechanization, and because abolition had reached unstoppability by 1850. Without Lincoln, the general belief is that the US would have split without the equivalent of 20 million casualties suffered in todays population levels, 1/3rd of the country would not have been so wrecked it remained 10-15 years behind the rest of the country...and within 25 years, slavery would cease to be an issue, America would be a continental power that the Southern Confederacy would have to rejoin on mainly economic grounds to benefit as well (British cotton from India, Egypt, also from Russian Central Asia and French Africa was coming on line...and tobacco, peanuts, most other Souther crops were in growing global cultivation.

    If we look for other consequential Presidents of lasting, significant consquence of positive change they brought, on a Washington or FDR scale or slightly below them – we have Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, Polk, Cleveland, Chester Arthur, TDR. And after FDR, we have Truman, Eisenhower, LBJ, Nixon, Reagan, and even Clinton.

    On anyones list, the sheer amount of things Nixon and LBJ accomplished and made permanent should qualify them as "great" in the magnitude of lasting accomplishment and their positives outweighing their negatives. Reagan might actually slip if the economic collapse is partially tied to things 1st done under Reaganomics that caused systemic problems that blew up on us 20 years after he had made them part of America's, and the globes "standard economic policy".

    February 16, 2009 at 7:09 pm |
  27. Jim H

    I think it's very interesting that the bad presidents, like Fillmore and Buchanan, came at a time when there was a huge, festering crisis building, and they did nothing to get through it. Therefore, they made it worse. Lincoln is the greatest because he faced the crisis that others hid from.

    Bush, on the other hand, was so wrong-headed that he couldn't understand the crisis we were in, and his policies just made things worse. So, if the world IS made of Swiss cheese and tax cuts for billionaires, then W will show up as one of the greatest. However, any fool knows that's not what the world is made of.

    February 16, 2009 at 7:04 pm |
  28. Gene Penszynski from Vermont

    Gary Tallman said:
    "Let true historians take time to FAIRLY judge the late Bush administration, let the new administration have a chance to lead, and let a lot of these commenters on this blog GET A CLUE about their own history…"

    Spoken from the Ivory Tower of achedmia this sounds wonderful ... but you are missing some very important points here. The first being that we have a seriously flawed character here in G W Bush. First and Formost A person who refuses to admit mistakes. This is a very serious character flaw in ANY leader much less the President of the Worlds most powerful Nation. The FIRST Step in the process of problem solving lies in the ability to openly acknowledge that the problem exists even if YOU are at the center of that problem. At the very least G W Bush did not communicate this effectively to the American People and at the very worse he deliberately lied to the American People in order to save himself from admitting he ever made a mistake until it was way too late. Regardless of how his actions will be viewed in the future this most basic of character flaws will always be first and formost in any INTELLIGENT analysis of G W Bush. Regardless of which Phd. Historian claims to be his biographer decades down the road this man had a FATAL character flaw just as Richard M. Nixon had one. In many respects it is my judegement that G W Bush will most probably be judged in retrospect in a similar light as Richard M. Nixon after all is said and done. A pathetic self absorbed dogmatic personality with a paranoid tendancy to do extrodinarily CORRUPT and CRIMINAL ACTS in the name of some ultimate misguided righteousness.

    February 16, 2009 at 6:07 pm |
  29. Gene Penszynski from Vermont

    Gary Tallman said:
    "Let true historians take time to FAIRLY judge the late Bush administration, let the new administration have a chance to lead, and let a lot of these commenters on this blog GET A CLUE about their own history…"

    Spoken from the Ivory Tower of achedmia this sounds wonderful ... but you are missing some very important points here. The first being that we have a seriously flawed character here in G W Bush. First and Formost A person who refuses to admit mistakes. This is a very serious character flaw in ANY leader much less the President of the Worlds most powerful Nation. The FIRST Step in the process of problem solving lies in the ability to openly acknowledge that the problem exists even if YOU are at the center of that problem. At the very least G W Bush did not communicate this effectively to the American People and at the very worse he deliberately lied to the American People in order to save himself from admitting he ever made a mistake until it was way too late. Regardless of how his actions will be viewed in the future this most basic of character flaws will always be first and formost in any INTELLIGENT analysis of G W Bush. Regardless of which Phd. Historian claims to be his biographer decades down the road this man had a FATAL character flaw just as Richard M. Nixon had one. In many respects it is my judegement that G W Bush will most probably be judged in retrospect in a similar light as Richard M. Nixon after all is said and done. A pathetic self absorbed dogmatic personality with a paranoid tendancy to do extrodinarily CORRUPT and CRIMINAL ACTS in the name of some ultimate misguided righteousness.

    February 16, 2009 at 6:06 pm |
  30. JIM FALLBROOK CA

    I believe that George W. Bush outsourcing jobs to India didn't help. However Jimmy Carter's blunder in not supporting the Shah of Iran crippled our country. The budget deficits since 9/11 can be attributed to Carter. When a true liberal democrat like Eugene Mc Carthy calls Carter the worst president in history, it must be true I was there when Carter was president. He crippled the nation and definitely did not help the working and middle class. Carter was by far worse than George W. Bush.

    February 16, 2009 at 5:46 pm |
  31. Gary Tallman

    As a history major, and also a holder of a master's degree in journalism with historical methods (...yes, they do offer those...), I feel qualified to comment that to judge George W. Bush's tenure at this time in any way is a historical fallacy. Any historian with that claims a PhD in the field that renders a 'historical' judgement at this time should hang it up.
    As others have stated, it is ENTIRELY too soon to make any historical judgement whatsoever...will add two further comments...I voted for Barack Obama, but for him to (at least now) claim the mantle of Lincoln, and repudiate what the previous administration did in the name of securing the country is also a historical fallacy. Abraham Lincoln took extreme measures in the absence of the Congress, and suspended the writ of Habeas Corpus (to the point of publicly ignoring the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court). Franklin Roosevelt also took extaordinary measures to maintain stability and public order. BOTH had a fair amount of the measures they undertook assailed or struck down by the Supreme Court over time. The bottom line is that they did what they thought was prudent at the time to preserve the fabric of the Union, or the solvency of the U.S. economy. Let true historians take time to FAIRLY judge the late Bush administration, let the new administration have a chance to lead, and let a lot of these commenters on this blog GET A CLUE about their own history...

    February 16, 2009 at 5:24 pm |
  32. Bill Wattenberg

    What most surprises me about this survey is that while he ranks higher in a couple of the individual categories, LBJ is ranked lower overall than John Kennedy - though significantly not that much lower. JFK was hamstrung in his legislative efforts by the fact that most of the major congressional committees charged with considering his agenda were chaired by conservative Southerners adamantly opposed to his programs, such as federal aid to education, Medicare, and civil rights. To its great undoing, the Kennedy administration, not wanting Johnson to get the credit, essentially relegated him to the sidelines and simply refused to use him to break the hold Congress had on so many of the bills Kennedy sent up to the Hill.

    Additionally, as regards civil rights, JFK was throughout most of his administration bigger on the talk and symbolic gestures and little on the do, as the recent book "The Bystander" illustrates so well. "A little more profile and less courage," as Eleanor Roosevelt put it. Rather than seing it as a moral issue, as did Johnson, Kennedy was personally undetached and viewed it by how it affected U.S. foreign policy.

    After Kennedy's assassination, it was Johnson who got the core of the Kennedy program passed . Johnson's immense knowledge of the Congress and its personalities - he had been there since 1931 - plus a little 'Bourbon and branch water' after hours and 'knowing where the bodies were buried,' did the job. Let's also not forget that unlike Kennedy, LBJ simply refused to take "NO" for an answer.

    February 16, 2009 at 5:20 pm |
  33. Gene Penszynski from Vermont

    No doubt Jimmy Carter was a bad President even though he was a nice caring man. G W Bush was a terrible President and he is self serving stubborn dogmatic ego centric IDIOT of a RICH spoiled BRAT that outsourced our economic future to the COMMUNIST Chinese and SOCIAIST Indians. Thats enough in my book to at least put Jimmy Carter one rung higher on the totem pole !

    February 16, 2009 at 5:05 pm |
  34. Frank Shirley

    George W. Bush was by far the worst president ever. He created a failed economy. He went to war based on lies and thousands have died directly because of him. He is a crimnal at best.

    February 16, 2009 at 5:00 pm |
  35. Frank Shirley

    I guess he can not get any hire than number one. After all he did free the slaves even though he did not want to.

    God Bless
    Frank

    February 16, 2009 at 4:55 pm |
  36. JIM FALLBROOK CA

    The historians may have gotten it wrong. Jimmy Carter is the absolute worst president in history. He had a failed domestic and foreign policy. The domestic problems was having 21% mortgage rates sure didn't help the working class. unemployment was 14% and inflation 12%. He was a miserable failure one foreign policy by allowing a terrorists to overthrow the Shah of Iran. Here is a quote from MoonBattery May 2007 "The establishment of an Islamic terrorist regime in Iran that demonstrated to the world its ability to attack the US with impunity — Carter's main legacy — set in motion disastrous chains of events that include 9/11 and are still playing out." Liberal presidential demmocrat candidate Eugene McCarthy made this statement about Carter "Carter had quite simply abdicated the whole responsibility of the presidency while in office. He left the nation at the mercy of its enemies at home and abroad. He was quite simply the worst president we ever had." What this article says is That we are suffering the consequences of Carters Foreign policy blunders by spending Billions of dollars in the middle east. The budget deficits we currently have can be traced back to Jimmy Carter. I cannot believe the so called scholars would rate Carter better than George W Bush. I believe George W Bush could certainly be called a lousy president, for refusing to defend the border, for allowing entitlement spending to go completely out of control, and for conducting the war in Iraq Vietnam style instead of fighting to win. But in comparison with Carter, he comes off looking like George Washington.

    February 16, 2009 at 4:47 pm |
  37. Dennis

    So where's the damn list? What kind of bad journalism talks about the list of presidential rankings and then doesn't devote the less than 100 words it would take to give us the names in order of ranking?

    February 16, 2009 at 4:36 pm |
  38. Jersey

    Bla, bla, bla.

    Go watch the "W" movie will you.

    February 16, 2009 at 4:22 pm |
  39. Manny

    You mean to tell me that Jimmy Carter was not the absolute worst.
    You are all out of your minds.
    We will see where saviour Obama leads us.

    February 16, 2009 at 3:49 pm |
  40. Dan Stewart

    I think Bush should be pleased that he ranked #36. Unluckily for him time will only further lower his position in the rankings. He has been an unmitigated disaster on virtually ever front. If you look at the scores he received you'll find there is a lot of room for him to fall further:

    Moral Authority – ranked #36. Not sure how any President who was responsible for torture of prisoners and the deaths of tens of thousands of people has any moral authority at all.

    Pursued Equal Justice for All – ranked #24. Bushes politicization of the Justice department, the outrageous tax breaks to the richest 1% of Americans, his utter disregard for the lives of the inhabitants of New Orleans, illegal wiretaps and torture are massive stains on this measurement.

    History will continue to reflect badly on this shallow minded, arrogant clown of a man.

    February 16, 2009 at 3:42 pm |
  41. Larry L.

    History will be much kinder to the Bush years after they get the facts:

    A New York Times article published September 11, 2003 described an emerging crisis with Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae and partisan resistance to proposed enhanced oversight of these two entities:

    "The Bush administration today recommended.......a new agency would be created within the Treasury Department to assume supervision of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.......which together have issued more than $1.5 trillion in outstanding debt......."

    "These two entities - Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac - are not facing any kind of financial crisis,' said Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee. 'The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing."
    Bush tried to stop the housing collapse,which would have saved the banks,which would have stopped wall street from crashing,which means your 401K would still be worth something,and you wouldn't be laid off,and we wouldn't need this spending bill,etc.You want to thank your man,Barney Frank ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee.

    February 16, 2009 at 3:40 pm |
  42. Isabel Abreu, Brazil

    Out of sight, out of mind!

    In the Brazilian version: What the eyes don't see the heart doesn't feel!

    People tend to forget the bad things that lived. Self defense, since remind is suffering a little more.

    But the danger that lives therein, I already saw political hated, to pass a 'makeup', appear again, and people re-elect!

    Watch out, friends: once unscrupulous, always unscrupulous!

    February 16, 2009 at 3:35 pm |
  43. Miss Lead

    The only doubt I have is which of the two: Reagan or W was the dumbest one. “The great communicator” could not utter two coherent sentences without script. What can I say about W; every time he opens his mouth, confirms what everybody knows: he is a complete idiot. When future generations watch these two, they will wonder how on earth were hey elected, and RE-ELECTED.

    February 16, 2009 at 3:25 pm |
  44. Joe G. (From Illinois)

    Presidents blamed for this.. Presidents praised for that.. Makes you wonder whose game we are all playing? POWER, GREED AND SELF SERVING STUPIDITY. “Luckily life is above all that..Despite the fact that for some that’s all there is.”

    February 16, 2009 at 2:49 pm |
  45. Bruce Hoff

    Mr. Bush is sadly mistaken! People make judgments every day and opinions may never change. I hope he does better in retirement than I am; thanks to his leadership or lack there of.

    February 16, 2009 at 2:23 pm |
  46. JC-Los Angeles

    They should start a Bush League of Presidents with this dreadful one in charge of the acceptance committee.

    February 16, 2009 at 1:57 pm |
  47. River Christ

    I think history will show all the bad presdents we have had, as soon as the people start teaching the truth in school. Bush and alot of other are apart of What we did to the Native Americans and all other groups of people in america that have been treated with hate.They are part of the Problem because they did nothing to stop it.

    February 16, 2009 at 1:48 pm |
  48. Arachnae

    The C-SPAN Historians Presidential Survey puts Bush in the bottom tier of Chief Executives, at #36, slightly ahead of Millard Fillmore.

    This is a disservice... to Millard Fillmore.

    February 16, 2009 at 1:02 pm |
  49. Gene Penszynski from Vermont

    He deserves much more than the lowest rankings. He deserves to be incarcerated (if found Guilty) for crimes against the American People and Humanity. I can't wait for the CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS and TRIALS to begin.

    This man was either an ignorant buffoon or a willing participant in traitorous acts against the American People and Our Constitution. Either way he should be tried as a Criminal. His Stupidity and IIgnorance are no excuse.

    February 16, 2009 at 12:55 pm |
  50. earle,florida

    what an understatement,...

    February 16, 2009 at 12:44 pm |
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