October 3rd, 2008
05:35 PM ET

What the Palin-Biden debate really told us

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Carl Bernstein
AC360° Contributor

Who won the Palin-Biden debate? Barack Obama, I suspect.

Who was the big loser? In an historic fortnight that had already underscored his erratic nature, John McCain.

The fact that Palin was able to string her sentences together last night – which she couldn’t manage to do in her unscripted interviews with Katie Couric - shows only how low McCain has strapped his presidential quest.

Sarah Palin’s task was an impossible one: to demonstrate that she is ready to be president of the United States. McCain put her in that impossible position; and her performance — all prep and no depth — demonstrated the bind he has put himself in.

Yes, he “energized the base” with his Hail Mary pick of Palin as a running mate. But he also demonstrated cynical disregard for the requirement of stable governance were he to be elected president, and then - through his incapacitation or death - Palin be called upon to exercise the powers of the presidency.

Just how scary a notion that is went on full display last night: She appeared to lack any semblance of the requisite depth, knowledge, or sense of history we should expect in a president or vice president; then she sought to excuse it by saying, “I’ve only been at this for five weeks.”

Yes, she could wink, she could tell Biden, “Say it ain’t so, Joe, there you go again,” and she could remind us again and again that she is a hockey Mom from the land of Joe-Six-pack (as if Western Republicans don’t swill Pinot Grigio with the rest of the country at their fund-raisers). She seemed incapable of thinking through the American condition and responding to it except by scripted answers, theatrical gestures, and tested buzzwords — and by announcing at the outset that she would decide which questions from the moderator to answer and which to ignore.

Yet Biden’s performance (deeply knowledgeable, sensible, and generally responsive to the questions) was perhaps the best evidence that - considered non-ideologically, but rather on judgment and temperament — Obama may be ready to be president, and McCain — who ought to be ready — is not.

Time after time, Biden had to tell Palin what John McCain’s real record is - as instance after instance - she misrepresented it (or misunderstood the legislative process), repeated easy slogans and bromides and, for the most part perhaps, offended the intelligence of voters who are not already die-hard, ideological proponents of right-wing Republicanism, creationism, or simplistic solutions to tough problems.

“Maverick,” “Maverick,” “Maverick,” she kept repeating about John McCain and herself. Perhaps Biden’s best moment in the best night of his career as a candidate (and I have heard him at his awful worst — i.e., being his own worst enemy) came when he challenged McCain’s constant claim to the Maverick title.

The tactical and intellectual deficiencies of the McCain campaign have been best analyzed by conservative and Republican commentators, and even politicians. George Will, Charles Krauthammer, Peggy Noonan, Chuck Hagel, come quickly to mind. (Hence, Krauthammer, following last night’s debate: “You can't blame McCain. In an election in which all the fundamentals are working for the opposition, he feels he has to keep throwing long in order to keep hope alive. Nonetheless, his frenetic improvisation has perversely [for him] framed the rookie challenger favorably as calm, steady and cool.”)

As a former White House (Republican) chief of staff said to me, “Palin is evidence of desperation; she is an embarrassment.” That is the bottom line. (I generally check in with Republicans — not Democrats - to assess how the McCain campaign is doing.) He noted, “She wasn’t vetted, really; it’s an open secret in Washington, but the details of the negligence are better known to Republicans than Democrats.” That doesn’t mean she doesn’t have a future in the Republican galaxy, lacks star power, or couldn’t be a fine Secretary of the Interior in a McCain administration.

It’s too bad. Earlier in his career, until the presidency finally seemed within his grasp, McCain had demonstrated a real willingness to seriously and thoughtfully take on both his party and the Washington establishment when he thought they were wrong — albeit mostly on one issue: pork, an issue he has been heroic on.

But his real opportunity to show independence of his party’s reigning dogma and cultural-warrior-infantry was in his choice of a vice presidential running mate. Instead, McCain, who has lectured us about duty, honor, country first, has left many independent-minded voters who might want to vote for him at an impossible, dangerous impasse: an unprepared vice presidential candidate running on a ticket with the oldest presidential nominee in history — a 72-year-old with four cancer surgeries and medical records he has ordered sealed.

Conventional wisdom has almost always held (JFK-LBJ being a notable exception) that a presidential nominee’s choice of vice president makes no difference in the outcome of the election.

This time it is likely to be determinate, because it tells us so much not only about Sarah Palin, but also John McCain’s state of mind today, and the promise that his political career once held and now appears to have been left behind.

Filed under: Barack Obama • Carl Bernstein • Joe Biden • John McCain • Raw Politics • Sarah Palin
soundoff (115 Responses)
  1. Martie

    Right on, Carl. For Linda in Michigan – unfortunately, for the rest of us this IS like stereotypical high school – where attractive has always counted for more than intelligence. Were Palin a plain woman, I guarantee you she would still be a hockey mom in Alaska. Any woman in her mid 40's who cannot put together a coherent sentence unless it is practiced or scripted should not be considered a viable candidate for the second highest office in the land.

    October 3, 2008 at 9:03 pm |
  2. martin

    Very good article. Gov Palin to me still did not understand the questions given to her. Until 2 or 3 questions later she went back to the question. She is very knowledgable about energy, she has to be because she lives in Alaska! Also doesn't her husband in the oil industry?? Everyone set the bar very low for her so I don't think she could get any lower unless she was doing the limbo. And for analyst commenting that she did well because she looked at the camera to talk to America come on now she had that training when she was in beauty pageants!!

    October 3, 2008 at 9:03 pm |
  3. Beth.......GA

    Carl – McCain released his medical records for 4 hours only and then released so many pages of detail that no one could reveiw them all in that amount of time.

    And Cindy .... GA is on here every time I come to look. Makes me wonder if she is a normal human with a life or a McCain operative. And I write this admitting to what I am doing on Friday night!!

    October 3, 2008 at 9:01 pm |
  4. larry

    Told us that its not an obama/biden ticket but an obama ticket, joe is just along for the ride.

    October 3, 2008 at 8:56 pm |
  5. Melanie Henderson

    When will CNN change its name to DNN, being the Democratic News Network. Mr. Biden has been in power for 36 years and during this time the US has gone form 24% reliance on foreign oil to 70% now. While Wall Street abdicated its “corporate governance” this past decade, GM and Ford failed to see the future, Mr. Biden has been an abject failure for not being part of any major Energy Legislation for 36 years, which is 12 years longer than Sarah’s running mate. Too bad Carl feels that Sarah cannot measure against the slick senator of one of the nations smallest states.

    October 3, 2008 at 8:53 pm |
  6. sam

    palin should be ashamed of herself, instead of debating like a woman who know what she wants, she is here defending her literacy,i believe its a joke. let her ask mrs clinton how its done.but on a seriouse note this is america, the most powerful nation in the world,and this nonsence is happening here its a big shame.McCain we hold you responsible for endangering our lives because you might not be here to see the outcome of your selfishness.

    October 3, 2008 at 8:47 pm |
  7. Debra

    One of the more insightful review of the debate on the web. Due to all the buzz surrounding the Palin/McCaine/Obama, I hadn't followed much of what Biden was about. After the debate, I was very impressed by him and my stance on voting the Democratic ticket has solidified. Much has been said and written about Palin and I won't repeat, but I am really bugged about her continual comments about "Todd and I." She said it in the debate and mentioned it several times this morning when she talked about "Todd and her" going to Michigan when McCain decided to bail out. It there is one thing I hate about girlfriends is when they bring up their "old man" in a discussion especially when it is about making decisions or their work!! This debate is about how she will be VP for the US.

    October 3, 2008 at 8:45 pm |
  8. Mike O'Brien

    Sometimes, I believe that Sarah Palin lives in a 'fastasy world'. When 'reality' sets in, today, tomorrow or a week from now.., with Thursday nights 'debate' and previous 'interviews'.., Sarah Palin is "not" ready to be Vice-President or President. Sarah Palin is way over her head and 'out of her league'. Senator Joe Biden, Charles Gibson and Katie Couric proved that. The best thing for the Democratic Party is Sarah Palin. Mike in Montana

    October 3, 2008 at 8:42 pm |
  9. Candace Grube

    Biden was Superior to Palin in every area of the debate. Sarah Palin exceeded expectations – However the bar was so low it didn't take much for her to exceed expectations. Joe Biden showed tremendous restraint when Gov. Palin kept trying to answer all questions with the same answer.

    She can really deliver a memorized line that someone has written for her. She chokes however with simple questions from voters. Tonight she moved around the questions and dodged providing answers bringing everything back to energy. Folksy is fine if you are qualified and I don't feel Sarah is qualified to be the VP and certainly not the President.

    I am getting tired of just hearing the buzz words from Palin – She has no substance.

    As a side note: Palin is against the banning of automatic weapons and assault rifles. Now that may have no bearing and virtually no consequence in the rural backwoods of Mayberry where they hunt moose – But – It has tremendous bearing and significant consequences and impact in East L.A, or the South side of Chicago, or the Inner City of Detroit , or in Miami or any other major city.

    She's Folksy which can be sweet but that's wearing very thin and it's making me Diabetic. Sarah has no street smarts and I don't trust her instincts. She's not ready.

    It seems that John McCain wanted to choose a woman and it was an unbelievable lapse in judgement to think that we just wanted any woman. It's disappointing as there are several women qualified to be the VP right now that could have been chosen.

    I guess John McCain thought unknown and moldable would be more
    Advantageous – Wrong Call John.

    October 3, 2008 at 8:18 pm |
  10. Sandra

    CNN – Please post some of my comments!! I spend alot of time trying to respond and can't ever get through!!! Thank you!!

    October 3, 2008 at 8:14 pm |
  11. Alex

    Hey Carl...quit being so brutally honest. McCain played his hand with the cards he could come up with. When you think about it, he was ALMOST successful. Then came the economic "surprise" and his twin did him in. I seem to remember McCain saying something about a promise to veto every "pork-barrel" bill that crossed his desk. Well he got his chance even without being at "his desk." So much for honesty, intergrity and doing the right thing. Plain and simple John...you are just like your twin brother GWB!

    October 3, 2008 at 8:12 pm |
  12. ssmith

    Biden is old Washington; he's had 20-something years to "change" things.
    Biden not only lost the debate but he comes across as a career politician. Not good.

    October 3, 2008 at 8:08 pm |
  13. msnola60

    I feel McCain should have informed Sarah Palin in the first beginning of the running that she may be considered. This way, she may have been able to gather a little knowledge about what is going on in the world, not just Alaska. She is NOT prepared for the second most important position in the United States. If she ignored questions being asked her durning the debate and proceeded to do her own questioning and answering...what would she do in the White House..ignore important issues presented and go with what is important to her?

    They were polite to her last night. The questions were easy..I could have answered better than she did. She (to me) is not taking this position serious AT ALL. She is getty and acts as if "Gee this is fun" attitude. She doesn't even bring the maturity, professional attitude or demeanor needed for such a very important job. She and McCain do not agree on certain things, but she feels that once she gets into the White House..who needs him. She will make her own changes is the impression I received from her last night, when she said Vice Presidents need more power. This lady is scary. I am a women and we all have heard the saying..."He may not have everything I want, but ..I can change him. This is how Palin is looking at McCain. All she wants to do is get into office.

    October 3, 2008 at 8:05 pm |
  14. keith fallbrook ca.

    One more comment:
    I also want to know why when Palin said last night that both her and McCain were Mavericks, that seemed to make it okay for her to not agree with everything Senator McCain likes, but because Obama and Biden are not considered Mavericks (at least they don't call themselves by that self inflating eogitistic name) it wasn't okay for them to disagree every now and again.
    like the very word maverick gives you automatic rights to go against your party lines just because you feel like it.

    October 3, 2008 at 7:53 pm |
  15. Linda/Michigan

    Palin won hands down. Biden had at least 10 facts wrong and he's been around for over 30 years. It shouldn't be too hard to memorize Obama's record because he hasn't any.
    Why all the ridicule of Palin? Afraid she going to be the winning formula for McCain? It's typical that alot of women are so catty because they resent her accomplishments. It's like high school again. Most women who knock other women suffer from low self-esteem. Get over it.

    October 3, 2008 at 7:49 pm |
  16. Sandra

    Biden is a seasoned, polished politician in Washington for many years. How does this represent "Change"?

    Palin is a down to earth real person who runs a state. She is for the people. She has an 80% approval rating with the people she works for.

    It's ok if you are for Obama/Biden, but you don't have to get personal and nasty. I won't vote for Obama based on the issues.

    October 3, 2008 at 7:48 pm |
  17. keith fallbrook ca.

    I wonder what debate people who still like Palin were watching, the fact of the matter is is that she didn't answer about half the questions, and when she didn't know something she went and tried to bring the conversation back to energy. As a matter of fact it seems to me that she contradicted herself even in the same line, on one side she said she fought against the oil companies in Alaska, then on the other side she said we need to drill.
    The one other thing, personnally I think it should be off limits, are comments made during debates trying to win your parties nomination for President. I'm sure Biden said that Obama wasn't ready to lead he was trying to be President himself, what else is he going to say, OH Obama would be a great President, BUT vote for me anyway. So philosophies can change, like being traded from one team to another, your loyalties are to the team then you get traded and most times you play twice as hard against the team you were traded from. Not exactly the same in this case between parties but I'm sure that Biden and Obama sat down and worked out their issues.

    October 3, 2008 at 7:45 pm |
  18. Sharon from Indy

    I agree that Senator John McCain's selection for vice president partner, Governor Sarah Palin, was an act of desperation. But even more, I believe it was an act of rebellion by McCain.

    With his version of maverick mentality, he selected Palin as a "shove it" attitude toward the GOP. In some way, the American people would also like to say those words to Congress and President Bush.

    In the end, the remainder of the presidential campaign will be watching John McCain and Sarah Palin self-destruct as the GOP candidates. All Senator Barak Obama has to do is wait, calmly wait.

    October 3, 2008 at 7:28 pm |
  19. Margaret of Tallahassee, Florida

    I think we have had enough cheerleaders(Bush college years), (Palin high school)and don't need another four years of cheerleadering 'leaders.' Some low key, scholarly, intellectual diplomacy would be more beneficial for America. And that's with a 'wink' and nod back at ya.!

    October 3, 2008 at 7:28 pm |
  20. Mike

    Did anyone notice that Governor Palin mispronounced both "Eye-Rack" and "Nuculer" what seemed like an infinite number of times in last night's debate? After 8 years of uneducated banter and mispronunciations, haven't we had enough stupid talk? Is it too much to expect our leaders to correctly articulate the name of a country where we spend $10.3 billion per month or to have a vice presidential candidate, whose strength is supposed to be energy, to be able to say "nuclear?" Is this the example we want to set for our children? Haven't we had enough?
    Shouldn't we give a couple of intellectuals a shot at it this time?
    You betcha!

    October 3, 2008 at 7:12 pm |
  21. jimmy

    Can't Wait to see Saturday Night Live...

    October 3, 2008 at 7:07 pm |
  22. Papasan

    Palin's performance was nothing more than a feeble swipe at fooling the American Public. Uneducated hillbilly doesn't go over well in my world Sarah. PATHETIC! John McCain needs to have his head examined quickly, and one of his advisors should be kind enough to tell him he has shown us the depth of stupidity his campaign will go to win the White House...

    October 3, 2008 at 7:06 pm |
  23. Curliss

    Yes she can ! Yes she can!

    Palin keep telling the truth. Tell them about McCains tax and health plan that will benefit them up to 2018. Keep telling them that a "white flag of surrender" in Iraq will bring down america both miltarily and financially. The world will no longer see america as a source of strength. Keep telling them, that its the same old insiders that are running for President, but yet, there is one ticket with an outsider that can bring perspective and realness to one of those tickets. Change we can believe in!

    McCain / Palin 2008/16!

    October 3, 2008 at 6:45 pm |
  24. LondonMcgee

    Sarah Palin reminds me of the pretty girl running for vice president of the student body …. In this global day and age she is dangerously out of her political and intellectual range.........someone should inform her, she’s not in the tundra anymore.

    October 3, 2008 at 6:36 pm |
  25. Teresa Carlsbad, New Mexico

    Sure Governor Palin exceeded expectations...but when the expectaions are at rock bottom, how difficult is that? I think that Senator Biden did excellent and it made me proud of our democratic ticket. I thought that Governor Palin was very condecending, not only to Senators Biden and Obama, but to the American people. I am tired of hearing the "hockey mom" comment come out of her mouth. I resent the Joe Six Pack comment as well, and I am a woman. There is more to our middle class culture than being a hockey mom and having a beer drinking husband... I have read many comments comments on the blogs from women who hope Sarah Palin runs for president in 2012. Are you people serious? Sure, lets put someone in office that can insult anyone's intelligence. Palin in a national government position, either as vice president or president surely would be the 2012 armageddon predicted by Nostradamus.

    October 3, 2008 at 6:25 pm |
  26. Thomas

    Thank you for years of great work in regards to factual journalism.
    Your right about Palin being ready for a position as Secretary of the Interior .
    James Watt in heels.

    October 3, 2008 at 6:20 pm |
  27. Jeff in Los Angeles

    Cindy from Ga...you need to stop running the same old Repub talking points. They are getting old. You have a mind, you should use it sometime instead of repeating what the party leaders have told you.

    October 3, 2008 at 6:05 pm |
  28. sherry

    Thank you for clearly stating the truth. Every time a commentator on TV makes excuses for Palin and treats her as a serious candidate, the effect is to further enable the corruption of our political process.

    October 3, 2008 at 5:55 pm |
  29. Janice

    Great article ..... you nailed it on the head ..... I am a woman and Sarah Palin should be embarassing every woman out there right now. McCain could have chosen from a number of extemely intelligent, experienced Republican women – his decision making should surely be called into question. Anyone who debates keeps to the format – she couldn't keep to the format because she couldn't answer the questions and that's the bottom line!

    October 3, 2008 at 5:50 pm |
  30. callie

    I have a new word to add to the college drinking games–instead of wall street and maverick –how about "also". I want to count up Palin's also's. I debated . It is a stalling tactic. I don't want my VP to be" folksy". Putin,"rearing his ugly head" may not get her regional cuteness.

    October 3, 2008 at 5:50 pm |
  31. David

    I am outraged with Gov. Palin's use of the phase "Joe Six Pack" to describe the average Joe. As the next potential president, and the wife of a man with a DUI arrest, I would think that Gov. Palin would chose a better phase to be homesy wink wink....Perhaps she is not aware of the over 12,000 americans killed each year by drunken drivers. Of course she is not promoting drinking and driving, but what is she promoting with the term "Joe Six Pack" wink wink...

    October 3, 2008 at 5:47 pm |
  32. Barbara - Las Vegas, NV

    Carl – You hit it right on the nose!

    I said it five years ago, when W was running for re-election, that McCain sold his soul to Bush/Cheney/Rove. I believe that is the only way that he would have campaigned for Bush. In exchange for his support, they promised their support in 2008. Little did he know that would be a useless promise.

    The old John McCain, the man with the strength to stand on his own, the man whose loyalty to his own party has been questioned (to the point that it was rumored he would switch parties), has been MIA during this election. The Republican base isn't his base, but he needs to appeal to them so much that he desperately chose Sarah Palin as his running-mate. That isn't "maverick". That's plain idiotic.

    Unfortunately, she does appeal to the ultra-conservative, ultra-religious Republican. They won't be swayed by her lack of experience or lack of independent thought. John McCain could have chosen my dog as his running-mate and, as long as he spouts the Republican doctrine, he would get their vote.

    For those people that think that the VP nominee isn't running for president, think again. Who do you think will be president if something happens to John McCain? I can't envision Sarah Palin in negotiations with other world leaders. She might be required to answer a question with a complete sentence. And get their names correct. And find their countries on a map.

    October 3, 2008 at 5:44 pm |
  33. Betty

    Joe was great and he will be a wonderful VP. As for Barbie Palin, I found her totally offensive. The little wink wink and hair flicking is something I expect from Jesicca Simpson not a VP candidate. The woman is a complete moron and McCain is a fool for picking her.

    October 3, 2008 at 5:43 pm |
  34. dave murrow

    Thanks for the great analysis. McCain really is throwing long, just like when he ditched his wife for the scion of a wealthy beer distributor. Or when he wet-started his jet on the deck of a carrier. Or when he 'suspended' his campaign in order to 'help' with the financial crisis.

    He is a contrary, hotheaded, ornery son-of-a-gun, but one thing he is not is a maverick. His record shows him closer to the 'most conservative (#8)' than Obama is to the 'most liberal.'

    In the same way that W tried to finish the war of his father, McCain is still trying to win the war of his father, Vietnam.

    October 3, 2008 at 5:43 pm |
  35. Lissa E

    Carl Bernstein

    Exactly....I think you nailed the analysis. She was full of fluff and theatrics. Call me crazy, but I need more than that in a Vice President.

    October 3, 2008 at 5:40 pm |
  36. Fleet Ghost

    Gov. Sarah Palin's performance is the female version of Jeff Foxworthy's highly successful "you might be a redneck if" act, especially the dumber than a 5th grader wink, wink, thumb's up yours gotcha she adds for emphasis. People are eating up this shtick. It fits what they're thinking right now. Up against the three-headed dog of government in Washington she goes. As for the maverick, I'll stick in the saddle with Obama/Biden steady is as steady does, rather than 8 more years of the Texas maverick throwing me, cutting & running with the money.

    October 3, 2008 at 5:38 pm |
  37. mark watkins

    Last night I kept hearing the term "marverick" used by Gov. Palin as it has been used excessively by the McCain campaign. When I was growing up, a "Maverick" was the '72 Ford we had sitting out in the driveway. That car was the true lemon that lived up to its nickname "Fix Or Repair Daily".
    So that is the feeling i get from a possible McCain/Palin administration......... fix or repair daily!

    October 3, 2008 at 5:33 pm |
  38. Melanie

    Way to go people! People who voted Bush and Cheney in...give yourselves a pat on the back. Now lets see if you make the same mistake again. How about voting McCain and Palin in? God Help us if you do! When I look at McCain, I see another 4 more years of Bush. Hey, McCain is Bush' long lost brother O.O

    October 3, 2008 at 5:29 pm |
  39. Melanie

    It is very very CLEAR that Biden won hands down in the debate. If you call not answering, dodging questions ok, then people would say Palin won the debate. o.O

    October 3, 2008 at 4:55 pm |
  40. Kelly Van Tuyl

    Great article and you hit it right on the nose!

    October 3, 2008 at 4:54 pm |
  41. Sue, Victor, NY

    Exactly! I was stunned at otherwise intelligent human beings thought that Sarah Palin did well last night just because she didn't stutter too much and there were no extended silences from her. She was robotic, and the winking and folksiness-I was embarassed for her. John McCain has shown stunningly poor judgement by choosing her as his runningmate. She had no idea what the duties of the Vice President were!

    October 3, 2008 at 4:54 pm |
  42. JayDee

    What was most pathetic about this media coverage of the debate is she called people wrong names, don't know who we are fighting and she didn't fully answer the questions and you people just let it ride. If it had been Biden making those mistakes you would have rode it into the ground.

    October 3, 2008 at 4:53 pm |
  43. alan

    Carl was wrong to say that Sen. McCain sealed his medical records. FactCheck.com showed that he released all records (over 1000 pages) while Obama only provide a few pages of his. Carl, are you sure you got the facts right? Or you are trying to mislead people?

    October 3, 2008 at 4:52 pm |
  44. Melanie

    I believe Biden did a remarkable job, true leadership and full of knowledge. He answered and then some. As for Palin, I think she has a big heart but that's not enough to help run a country. Just by watching her and McCain, I think they are both on different pages about alot of things. McCain is about greed and not what is best for the america people. All he loves is military subjects, the rest he's out of touch with. I think if Palin jumped rope and went over to the Obama team, that would be a force to be reckened with. Obama, Biden and Palin. But in saying that, she is not qualified to take on such a big task just yet, more so since McCain has had so many cancers and the age he is at the moment, he could drop dead after elected and then what? Palin would become President and OMG GoD help us. No that makes no sense sorry. NO way in HELL! I may as well run to become VP or President. That's what it has come down too. Lets pull people off the street and have them run the country. o.O

    October 3, 2008 at 4:52 pm |
  45. Shocked&Awed

    Choosing Sarah Palin for the possible presidency was an act of insanity. Totally understandable, considering the who was the "decider". Go lock yourself in a dark closet for 5 years and see how sane you are when you get out.

    October 3, 2008 at 4:52 pm |
  46. Paul T

    Very insightful disection of the debate. Palin, at times, was condescending in attitude, made a few major gaffes even in her non-answers. First and foremost arguing about McKeirnan's statements regarding Afganistan (and worse calling him McClelland!). Second gaffe was accusing Joe Biden of not being able to relate to the women who must think of their families' welfare, etc. Was she not paying attention when they ran Biden's biography in Denver? Third gaffe: It appeared she either doesn't understand the meaning of Achilles Heel, or she is egotistcal enough as to allude she has no weaknesses.

    October 3, 2008 at 4:51 pm |
  47. jamie

    I can not believe what a joke this really is. Palin should have offended many female voters last night. Her winks and head bobs lead me to think that the hair twirl was next. Was it just me? I lose respect for any woman who would jump the Clinton ship and go towards this text book , thats what this country is looking for, Vp pick. I am outraged!

    Jamie H.

    October 3, 2008 at 4:49 pm |
  48. Lilibeth

    I forgot to say one other thing. I was bothered by the winking and "nucular"...

    Enough said.

    October 3, 2008 at 4:47 pm |
  49. Cindy

    Once again another liberal being ridiculous! As I recall Sarah is not running for president for one. And secondly if you want to talk scary, just look at the top of the dem ticket. There is someone with no experience what so ever who would take the reigns all by his lonesome on day one. That Carl, is scary. Maybe you ought to open your eyes and see the light.

    And Biden, who you praise as bring so great and experienced, told many lies last night. If he is SO great and going to be one for change then you'd think he'd be different than the other politicians. But NOPE...exactly the same...lies and all.

    And yeah the liberal media would think that Biden won since they are all in Obama's pocket.


    October 3, 2008 at 4:47 pm |
  50. Lilibeth

    Carl, everything you said here is right on. Thanks for telling us like it is.

    October 3, 2008 at 4:44 pm |
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