September 19th, 2008
08:30 AM ET

John McCain and the lying game

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Joe Klein
AC360° Contributor
TIME Columnist

Politics has always been lousy with blather and chicanery. But there are rules and traditions too. In the early weeks of the general-election campaign, a consensus has grown in the political community — a consensus that ranges from practitioners like Karl Rove to commentators like, well, me — that John McCain has allowed his campaign to slip the normal bounds of political propriety.

The situation has gotten so intense that we in the media have slipped our normal rules as well. Usually when a candidate tells something less than the truth, we mince words. We use euphemisms like mendacity and inaccuracy ... or, as the Associated Press put it, "McCain's claims skirt facts."

But increasing numbers of otherwise sober observers, even such august institutions as the New York Times editorial board, are calling John McCain a liar. You might well ask, What has McCain done to deserve this? What unwritten rules did he break? Are his transgressions of degree or of kind?

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  1. Larry Donohue

    Negative ads can be negative but true, or can be negative and false.

    You should make this point rather than just quoting the percent of negative ads.

    If the 74% of Obama's are mostly true and the less percent of McCains have a large component of false, that should be the story.

    You have a powerful podium but that comes with the responsibility to clarify the stories. Keepin them honest has to be more than a slogan.

    September 19, 2008 at 4:19 pm |
  2. Maggie

    If you are going to write about lies, include yourself and CNN in your story. Why don't you write about Obama's lies, Obama's half truths and Obama's misleading, downright LYING ads. Obama linking McCain to Limbaugh and misquoting Limbaugh to begin with, are downright lies. Where's the BIG story CNN? McCain has never been his party's favorite son due to his stance on immigration yet you see fit not to air this. CNN has no credibility and much less you!

    September 19, 2008 at 4:02 pm |
  3. Claudia, Houston, Tx

    John McCain's credibility and mental state is questionable. He tells a lie and then tells another lie to lie his way out of a lie. We've been told lies by Bush for the last 8 years and along comes McCain trying to play us all stupid again. Really if you stop and think about it, McCain plays Americans for stupid because Bush got 2 terms.

    September 19, 2008 at 3:58 pm |
  4. Brian

    The simple Republican response to their candidates lying always turns out to be the that the Democrats are worse. I have one question to ask you: "Prove it!"

    I grew up a strong Republican supporter. I plan to vote for Obama. Why? Lies. I am tired of them. America deserves better. If you don't like where the ship is going, fire the captain, don't reward him. The Republicans have good principles, but they have gotten out of line. They need to stop talking and start delivering, only then will I vote for another Republican.

    Sure in the past 20 years the Democrats have made inaccurate comments as well, but a vast majority of true inaccuracies were not for character defamation.

    God, I hate responding to these, but we need to hold our representatives responsible for their acts. "The other guy is worse" is simply a lame child's excuse... Grow Up!

    September 19, 2008 at 3:50 pm |
  5. Joyce T.

    Regardless of what McCain says, his behavior speaks volumes. He has a history of supporting Bush and we don't need any more of that. It doesn't help to try to distance himself from it. We already know. He says that the American people are his greatest concern and yet he selects a running mate for her "appeal" rather than for her ability to lead this country if he should die while in office, which is a real possibility. Is it a lie that he cares about this country when he is willing to sacrafice our country's future leadership by selecting a running mate who was selected strictly to help him win? This is typical Republican politics and the ploys of big business – satisfy the short term goals while sacraficing the future good. Haven't we seen enough of this? We need someone who is looking forward past the election. Obama selected a running mate who could be president in his absence. This is an important issue. McCain could win the election and should be become ill or die, leave the American people with nothing. Tell the truth John! You just want to win regardless of how it affects the American people in the future.

    September 19, 2008 at 3:47 pm |
  6. Catawungus

    Definitions: Negative ads are ads that blast your opponent. Positive ads are ones that tout your qualifications.

    Lies are a whole nutha ball of weasels.
    Negative ads are annoying but effective.

    Lies, on the other hand, are morally wrong, abhorrent and speak to the true character of the person running them.

    When a candidate goes to LIES we need to count that really hard.
    Media has balled both Lies and Negatives into the same count. Very misleading. We need to remember (or learn) how to think for ourselves.

    September 19, 2008 at 3:31 pm |
  7. Terri

    Once again McCain jumps to give another speech filled with half truths regarding the economy.
    What is so Maverick about this behavior?
    It sounds like more of the same from the past 8 years!!

    September 19, 2008 at 3:20 pm |
  8. Dave S, Tinley Park, IL

    Oh Cindy, couldnt you come up with your own words rather than spouting that tired cliche of 'left wing liberal'? Wow–so clever. Problem is you can't see the hypocrisy of the party you so righteously (yeah right) cling to. Who burned it into your mind that you HAVE to always vote republican't instead of what makes sense? I bet you still think Bush is a great president. Let Palin be honest about her kid's drug problems and her past affair instead of hiding behind her perfect family facade–then maybe she'd earn some respect. As for McCain, I have no doubt he's got his own opinions, but is selling himself out to appeal to the gullible.

    September 19, 2008 at 3:13 pm |
  9. gadissa

    I think Senator McCain did a lot of good things, but it is time for him to retire and enjoy the rest of his life. White house is not a good place to retire. White house is where he has to work 12 hours a day.

    September 19, 2008 at 3:06 pm |
  10. Kristi in KC missouri

    Has anyone noticed John McCain's makeover? Ithink he must've bought Sarah Palin's tanning bed!

    September 19, 2008 at 2:47 pm |
  11. Jeremy Long

    The sad truth of all of this is that to the true Republicans do not care how their candidates win, just as long as they win. True Republicans are so scared of a Democrat winning, especially a black Democrat that they will go to all time lows, to ensure that McBush wins.

    September 19, 2008 at 2:39 pm |
  12. seah

    There is no candidate that has lied more than Obama.

    he has lied about his family, each and every one of his friends numerious times. He lied about hearing Rev Wright. to name a few.

    The only thing is the media never called him on any of them.

    The media did not drag them all out into the headlines.

    So with your headlines on this, Shows how Bias the media is. wnen you do this.

    I dare you to and Put all Obama lies in the head lines, it might take you a week or two to get them all run.

    Obama Lied Maliciously, intentionally Straight Faced knowing he was Boldly telling lies. The man had no remorse and no apology when caught. The media left them all slide by.

    So when you talk of lies, start with the over 100 on record of Obama blantant lies.

    September 19, 2008 at 2:17 pm |
  13. Greg Hodges

    Well I don`t want my first E-Mail to sound over the top, but as a 52 year old Canadian it has been infuriating to see what has happened to our neighbours to the south over the last 30 years, due to the insane abuse of power wrought by the Republicans. Starting with the Imperial President (Reagan) to the idiocy of the Bush/Cheney gang that couldn`t shoot straight; is it any wonder the mighty U.S.A. is in complete disarray these days. Of course McCain is lying, how else to keep the American public from laying waste to the Republicans in Nov. ,as they so dearly deserve! Whatever honour McCain may have had in the past is being sacrificed in the win at all cost Republican creed. Shame on the media for being bullied into silence!

    September 19, 2008 at 2:04 pm |
  14. Alex

    Well Joe, the title of your article shows your lack of objectivity and who you support. You may not support John McCain and take pleasure in pointing out his faults and discrepanices. But guess what......OBAMA has the same qualities and pulls the same garbage. But the media gets to play score-keeper and depending on which side you support, so goes the score. I guess it wouldn't do any good to ask you what YOU have the score at.

    September 19, 2008 at 1:50 pm |
  15. Madeline

    Are you forgetting that Obama is also doing negative ads that are blatantly false? How about the new ad linking McCain to the Rush Limbaugh immigration controversy? Both sides are guilty of inaccurate negative ads. It's unfair to criticize one campaign while letting the other get away with it.

    September 19, 2008 at 1:47 pm |
  16. Ryan Field

    They both lie, McCain and Obama. It's part of the game. Just ask where Obama's birth certificate is and see what you'll get. Or ask him where he was all those years while Rev. Wright was preaching racist sermons. "Ah, well...ah, ah, ah...I never heard anything racist there."

    But I love the way Donald Trump endorsed McCain, after he supported Hillary Clinton for so long. It's like they are all coming out of the closet now. I'll bet there will be plenty more, too.

    September 19, 2008 at 1:40 pm |
  17. Lesley

    So true. I couldn't believe AC360 last night. They seem to be supporting McCain/Palin and giving them every courtesy while painting the Obama/Biden ticket in an unfavorable light. If I wanted this type of coverage, I would have tuned into Fox News where I know what to expect. What's up with Candy Crowley and John King these days? I am very disappointed in CNN.

    September 19, 2008 at 1:36 pm |
  18. judy

    McCain and Palin both lie in their speeches and ads . I feel that the press does not do enough to report this blantant lying and does not press their campaign on this issue. They don't know how to talk about issues , so they put up a smoke screen with the same old canned speeches full of deception. I feel like I am being brainwashed and oh yes, I do know that McCain has been tortured-Haven't we all heard enough of this. My Uncle is MIA from WW II and I don't constantly talk about it. ENOUGH ALREADY

    Ya think that Palin and her Husband have something to hide? If this were Obama, the press would be all over this issue.

    September 19, 2008 at 1:32 pm |
  19. Presley

    First rule of Mud Slinging Club, don't talk about Mud Slinging Club.

    As an "observer" who's only profit is not ratings but a PRESIDENT, even I can spot the fact that McCain is not the same candidate he was a few months ago, same goes for Obama whom I am supporting, but McCain's transformation is just more obvious.
    Both do not seem comfortable with the direction in which their respective parties have steered the campaigning. McCain's win at all costs newly adopted attitude is just plain toxic to the whole of it.
    It embitters even more those who's disposition was not level to begin with and it's prescriptive dosing of inflammatory chest thumping just demeans any genuine intention McCain once promoted.
    Obama, while not innocent, has not veered as far as his opponent.

    Consistency is a big deal to someone like me and while I carry no delusion that either candidate will "fix" our country, I find Obama's resolve and actions more sensible. And his empowering affect.

    Ask not what our country can do for us, ask now what can we do to facilitate an amicable and participatory atmosphere for all Americans.
    Feeling left out just doesn't cut it anymore.

    September 19, 2008 at 1:29 pm |
  20. samuel

    In my mind this has been one of the biggest jokes in politics McCain and Paline give me a break. The only reason he is as close to Obama is that obama is black. So I say to this racise country get use to it.

    September 19, 2008 at 1:24 pm |
  21. Sandy, Arkansas

    The fact that I even read this is why such things are written. We need the candidate who have BOTH twisted or exagerated the truth to stop talking about their opponent and what they did or didn't do and tell the American people what they will do and how they will do it. We need the media to stop their slanted and attack journalism and find a few positives (if there are any) to write or talk about. We, the American people, have enough negatives in our lives right now and we need to be able to have "change" or "reform" tactics and plans given that will bring some hope for positives..."reform" we can believe in and "change" we can benefit from. Most people understand that America is not in good health financially. We have overspent, overindulged, feed the greediness of big business at the expense of the middle class, and created an economy that is broken and a working class citizenship who feel like they are rats in the wheel....just running and running as fast as they can and never getting anywhere. I do remember when America was the greates nation and we have the ability to still be that nation...we need good leadership and teamwork. The party system is not working. We need to be for each other – not against.

    September 19, 2008 at 1:09 pm |
  22. Gary Chandler in Canada

    A News Reporter could become famous by questioning McCain on the Kerry – McCain – bipartisan – Committee.
    Why is McCain NOT bragging about it every day?
    You could get him to take a swing at you and / or storm off in HUFF.
    Putting Kerry and McCain in charge of that Committee was like putting Clemens and Bonds in charge of investigating steroid use. It was such a CONFLICT OF INTEREST!!!
    WHAT did they seal from your eyes, the World's eyes?

    September 19, 2008 at 1:08 pm |
  23. Betty, Virginia

    I don't recognize John McCain or what he stands for anymore. I have been a liberal republican for years but this year, I'm a conservative 50 year old woman democrat. Hey Senator John Government Deregulation McCain... give it up... I just don't believe what you say anymore. By the way, can I assume you'll be supporting Palin not having to account for her actions since she's now on your team... clean up Washington misuse of power unless it's in your best interest?

    If it looks like a pig in lipstick and it squeaks like a pig in lipstick... well, McCain what color are you wearing these days?

    September 19, 2008 at 12:33 pm |
  24. Maureen/CA

    I could not agree more with Joe. I look forward to all of the debates. McCain and Palin are like High School bullies spreading lies about Obama and Biden behind their backs. But every bully eventually gets confronted and exposed for who they really are and what they really stand for. This exposure will happen during the debates.

    September 19, 2008 at 12:25 pm |
  25. WIllie W

    I agree with this report. John McCain has run a DIrty Campaign of untruthful and disparaging remarks on his opponent! He couldn't even tell the truth about the dire state the economy is in! He camoflaged that too! It just proves that McSame is still the pockets of Bush and Cheney and completely out of touch with America and it's people! He is a disgrace! His Slogan Country First couldn't be more deceptive!

    Just how has he put his country first. His POW service can only carry his Patriotism so far and it's more than run it's course to the point of sacriligious against the thousands of other military members he dismissed and has not even shown a shred of compassion for whilst VETOING every single bill that came before Congress for Veteran's Pensions, Medical Care, and adequate hospitals to receive the same!

    He is so much like Bush and Cheney I only wonder if he's truly not worse than both of them put together! They have all shared in Taking their Nation DOWN to it's Lowest In Decades! And they WILL NOT GET MY VOTE EVER!

    They don't know the meaning of Democracy as they live by Corruption and Indifference to ALL that are not lining their pockets or complimenting their self serving ideals achieved by any dispicable vehicle available! They are not even worth the disgust I feel for them or the contempt imbued by every Nation around the World just on the mention of their names! NICE JOB BOYS !

    September 19, 2008 at 12:19 pm |
  26. Kent Fitzsimmons,Kewanee, IL

    I am shocked at to what degree this once honorable man has gone in his reach for power. You see an obviously wrong commercial about Obama and afterwards you see McCain approving of the message. Truly shameful for this man that I really, really liked 20 yrs ago. He would never have approved of those messages then. I guess time and the search for power will change a man. That's not the change I need. Absolutely nothing will change this Independent's vote this time. Iwill be voting for real change..........the correct change.

    Obama/Biden 08

    September 19, 2008 at 12:11 pm |
  27. Melissa, Los Angeles

    Wonderful article. I've watched some YouTube clips about McCain only allowing reporters and doctors to look over 1,000 pages of his medical records in 3 hours. There was even a small clip of Dr. Gupta talking about it. No electronic device was allowed inside for the viewing and the concern was his melanoma cancer and how it comes back usually in about 10 years after it's been treated. It's now the 8th year since he was treated so there's concern to what his medical records show now. With the prospect of Palin becoming President if the cancer comes back during McCain's term – I can't even think of voting for McCain.

    September 19, 2008 at 12:10 pm |
  28. Dan Stewart

    This is hardly a surprise is it? McCain the self described "Maverick" threw away his Maverick credentials and went with the traditional Republican campaign strategy of lies, fabrication and smear.
    He called Jerry Falwell and co "agents of intolerance" before embracing the Evangelical faction of the Republican party. He pushed for massive deregulation of industry before now calling for regulation. He claimed he'd run an above board and fair campaign before recruiting Steve Schmidt and embarking down the road of Rovian smear and lies. He claimed he'd support Row vs Wade before saying he'd repeal it. He said he wouldn't support the Bush tax cuts before chaning his mind and saying he'd support them. He said he'd put country first and recruited the utterly inexperienced and hugely partisan Sarah Palin.
    Basically what we are seeing is a man who is willing to throw away his beliefs in order to be elected and in order to support this he has had to lie to cover these huge flip flops.

    September 19, 2008 at 11:55 am |
  29. snort

    What is obama goning to say when we are attacked again? WE DESERVED IT!!! He's said it before, his wife has said it and so has his preacher! We can fix ourselves as long as we are safe and not attacked again. His speaches all seem middle of the road now, but you know who he really is

    September 19, 2008 at 11:52 am |
  30. Laurie

    Ouch !!! unfortunately this article is all true....side note...very well said !!

    September 19, 2008 at 11:38 am |
  31. Lisa

    Well said!
    Tad Williams is quoted as saying,"We tell lies when we are afraid...afraid of what we don't know, afraid of what others will think, afraid of what will be found out about us. But every time we tell a lie, the thing that we fear grows stronger." I find this quote very appropriate. I have been surprised that McCain would sink to such depths in this campaign. He not only is running a campaign full of unnecessary sleaze but has shown a recklessness in his decision making. I think one thing that surprises me more than other things, is his weak grasp on foreign affairs as evidenced by his comments about Spain yesterday. He actually has had many incorrect statements about foreign issues in the past year (any American can fact check his statements), and this really shakes one's confidence. Palin surely isn't going to provide any intellectual support and understanding in the area of foreign affairs. Is anyone else worried about this man's cognitive functioning? He has had such bizarre and unsteady presentations/comments that I worry he is cognitively challenged. I think Palin is just plain dishonest. She is an opportunist and will smile and say what she thinks will get her what she wants. I don't know which is worse...cognitively challenged or "honesty" challenged.
    I also feel that they don't connect with middle class and poor americans.in terms of financial struggles. I don't think McCain has a clue what is like to sit up at night and worry about how to feed his children. Do you think he knows what it is like to deal with foreclosure? The man didn't even know how many houses he has! I know for a fact the Obama knows struggle. He lived it growing up, and I feel that he connects with me on this point. He gets it because he lived it!!
    Yes, the McCain of 2000 is no more. He just doesn't get it!! I shudder to think about McCain/Palin (and "The First Dude) near the White House. We don't need 4 more years of "out of touch".

    September 19, 2008 at 11:38 am |
  32. hongli

    John McCain is a seventy-two year old pathological liar and a disgusting old,arrogant human being.SHAME ON THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.

    September 19, 2008 at 11:23 am |
  33. Paul

    I don't see why this lying game should surprise anyone. It has been the republican way for decades. It has always been their practice to distort the truth, and outright lie in order to get into office. And this is the how the country has to suffer for it. With all this turmoil in the financial markets. Americans, open your eyes!!!!!!!!. For God sakes!!!!! this is the only chance we will have to make some real change in this country. Don't be fooled by all the lies, the political tricks. And please don't be fooled by an old man, who should be past his midlife crisis. Who shouldn't need what appears to be a covergirl on his ticket. in order to try to sway votes just because of her looks. Cause frankly, that's all she has. She simply doesn't bring any true washington experience, or knowledge to the table. Give Obama a chance, He certainly can't make it any worse than it is right now. The Republican Party is to blame for all this mess!!!!! Open your eyes!!!!! Should there really be any question about what this country should do come Nov 4th. When you are spending 10 billion dollars a month in another country, for a war that should not have ever happened, How long do you think this country can stay afloat. Come on!!!!!! Republican policies and their main issues have only succeeded in doing one thing. Allowing those rich and well to do Republicans the chance to keep their wealth. So unless you middle-class Republicans, who have decided to back four more years, have made so kind of deal with these elite rich Rep(s) to pull you out of the hole that you are in. WHATCHA GONNA DO!!!!!!!!!!!

    September 19, 2008 at 11:20 am |
  34. J from DC

    McCain wants to fire Christopher Cox, the chairman of the Securities and Exchange Committee. However, McCain's economic advisor is Phil Gramm. The man who created policies, which has contributed greatly to this recent Economic Meltdown. Yet, McCain has not even fired him from his own campaign. Unbelievable! Maverick or Mouse.

    September 19, 2008 at 11:10 am |
  35. Marlon

    John McCain has done what was done to him back in 2004 and what other Republicans have done and what Karl Rove has advised many to do, that is be as sleazy you can be to ruin the character of your opponent. It doesn't matter if it's true or not because stupid will believe anything without checking the facts.

    Face it! Americans are stupid and shallow. The same people that were stupid enough to vote Bush in for his second term are the same people who will be stupid enough vote for McCain/Palin. These people will vote for someone who uses sleazy tactics and think the country will be so much better off when that person becomes president.

    America is a place where you have to be old, rich and white to be president. Correction. You can be old, rich, white and dumb and be president.

    September 19, 2008 at 11:07 am |
  36. Lorie Ann, Buellton, California

    Well Mr Klein, It's obvious you won't be voting for McCain. I think both candidates, their camps, and many of their supporters should look into the mirror. Lies, half truths, gossip and hearsay have engulfed this election. Perhaps it's always been that way, but with 24 hr news, the internet and the kitchen sink thrown in the mix, this election has me nearly burnt out with all the hateful things that have become the conversation now-a-days.

    Lorie Ann, Buellton, Calif.

    September 19, 2008 at 11:04 am |
  37. Troy

    Every body says that Obama doesn't have what it takes to be a leader, no experience, etc.

    I very first choice he made showing his leadership abilities is picking Biden as VP. He could have taken the easy way out by picking Hillary but he didn't.

    September 19, 2008 at 10:50 am |
  38. Dan

    Do you think or believe Barack Obama hasn't been dishonest or lied?
    It is right in front of you and you choose not to see it or report it truthfully.
    Put the facts side by side and not just report on one man or the other.
    Expose the lying on both side but do it with class and honesty. The reporting on Barack Obama lies has been far less and coved over due to concerns of a racial backlash. I don't care about the color of a person just true equality facts and leadership. Everyone talks about equality in this country but no one wants to walk that walk in fear of being branded a name by one race or the other.
    We are all Americans no matter what and we share a great nation. I guess in the end that God is the only one who will ever see us all as truly equal and blind to color.

    September 19, 2008 at 10:45 am |
  39. Rhonda

    McCain and Palin have both demonstrated that honest and integrity are not characteristics that either possesses. That coupled with their individual and collective lack of judgment, whining, ongoing cries of sexism and the "whoa is me" reaction to direct questioning have all given the American people a clear glimpse of what a McCain-Palin White House would look like. The American people deserve better. Obama-Biden is the only REAL choice in this election!

    September 19, 2008 at 10:34 am |
  40. suki

    Mr Klein – It is up to the media to continue to point out the lies being told by the campaigns – many people hear something once and believe it to be true – the only way that the truth comes out is if the media continues to point out the lies and repeating the information often enough until it sinks in –

    September 19, 2008 at 10:17 am |
  41. Keith

    Joe, you left out the Spanish language ad put out by obama that is notonly negative but dangerous.

    September 19, 2008 at 10:12 am |
  42. Angela

    Yes or no questions are easy to answer. If you can't answer these, you are hiding something!

    September 19, 2008 at 10:11 am |
  43. Diana

    Come on, if someone is doing just that (lying) why not call him a liar?!

    September 19, 2008 at 10:02 am |
  44. Annie Kate

    Just last night 360 had 2 segments on negative ads in the campaign and Obama currently is in the lead on those. So I don't think Obama is much cleaner than McCain on the half-truths, lies, and insults. You mentioned the "lipstick on a pig" remark and how McCain's campaign took it as an insult against Palin – well I heard the remark in context when it was replayed on 360 and I heard the audience's reaction and it seemed fairly evident that the crowd at least thought Obama was targeting Palin on it and Obama did nothing to dispel that notion.

    Both candidates promised at the beginning of this race to run a dignified honorable campaign. Obama said it was old politics and it would not be in his campaign. McCain in the primaries ran a very honorable campaign against his fellow Republicans. In the general election though neither has kept their word. I don't know who threw down first but its been unending ever since and its been both sides doing it. If this is "new politics" then I'm sorry but I can't tell the difference between it and the old politics.

    Annie Kate
    Birmingham AL

    September 19, 2008 at 9:58 am |
  45. Akili-Atlanta,GA

    I am watching lies fall out of his mouth as I write. He actually just said that Americans need to know in advance when trouble is coming. HELLO! That would require REGULATION! The very thing he has worked against his whole careeer. Remember his whole "less government" theme? Since he talks about so much "growing the military"...I fear that as the gap between rich & poor grows, only the uber rich will be able to afford college, while the rest of us can look forward to joining the military in order to get a paycheck!

    September 19, 2008 at 9:27 am |
  46. Reggie Duncan Raleigh NC

    Mccain always lies to pull the wool over the American people's eyes.
    Palin, I don't trust her. Now that the RNC is over, her luster is getting dull now. She makes me nervous because she is trying to stop the Troopergate scandal. Mccain has called for the head of the SEC to be fired. Just one guy? Why not everyone on the SEC board or whatever. I just don't trust Mccain/Palin. They just sound like they are saying what the rich people want to say. I haven't heard what they will do for the middle-class.

    September 19, 2008 at 9:24 am |
  47. Dorothy

    We already have 2 lying people in the White House. Why would we elect 2 more liars? McCain and Palin are lying through their teeth every time they open their mouths. I don't think McBush-Cain and McBush-Palin are mavericks. I think they are rogues. They both seem to switch their rhetoric every day, depending on what is happening at the time. Flip-flop, flip-flop, flip-flop.

    September 19, 2008 at 9:24 am |
  48. Jacquie NY

    The sad part is that the American public does not seem bothered by this. The Republican machine has done a great job at slandering the liberal media – and the public are buying into it. Regrettably, I think Karl Rove's comments were intentionally made to pretend to distance McCain from the current administration. As an independent woman, I am saddened by the response to MCCain and Palin – they will do anything to win and to push forward their ideology. Let's hope common sense pravails in November.

    September 19, 2008 at 9:23 am |
  49. Jerry Gadson

    McCain and Palin talk a lot about her coming to "change Washington". But with her, her husband, and aides refusing to cooperate with an investigation that was already in progress before she became a national figue, following the same Bush/Cheney spirit, it looks like Washington has changed her before she has even gotten there.

    September 19, 2008 at 9:02 am |
  50. Cindy

    Well another left wing liberal at it again.

    Why not tell the truth Joe. Obama lies as much or more than McCain. Isn't he the one that has spent more money on negative ads that have all been proven by fact check to be totally untrue and stretched fabrications or misquotes? There is a very long list of them. He is as dirty and deceitful as every other politician. He is nothing new or is doing nothing new. Come on...tell the truth! Once again your liberalism is clouding your judgment.


    September 19, 2008 at 8:41 am |
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