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April 14th, 2008
01:52 PM ET

David Gergen: Slouching towards the fall

Pope Benedict XVI

For the first time since this long, dramatic campaign began, people are asking me whether we are heading into a fall with yet another set of disappointing candidates.  Sadly, these past few weeks seems to have diminished all of them. 
 
"Are we really going to have to choose between candidates who can't lead us out of the mess we are in?" asked a major business figure this weekend - and this from a Republican stalwart!  From conversations over the past few days, I am finding that there are some serious, influential Republicans who are grumbling about John McCain's domestic policies, especially on the economy.  Some were appalled by his swerve last week on mortgage foreclosures.  Not only did he turn on a dime away from a position he took only a couple of weeks ago, but his new ideas seem to inject the government directly into administering who is a deserving homeowner and who is not - a position that is anathema to most free marketeers.  Will he provide sound stewardship of the economy?  That is a question we may hear more often in days ahead.
 
But if McCain is prompting some questions, that is nothing compared to what is happening to diminish the candidates on the Democratic side.  Clearly, Barack Obama stumbled in his comments and before the wrong audience when he rambled on about church goers and gun owners in small towns across the Midwest.  It's not that what he said is actually wrong; historians have often said, for example, that people enduring hard times often find their religious faith to be even more important. But the way Obama said it - and perhaps even the fact that he said it at all - could easily give offense in rural America.  He was smart to acknowledge it right away, and he was smart to get Senator Bob Casey of Pennsylvania out on television yesterday in his defense. 
 
One wonders, even so, whether Hillary Clinton hasn't gone too far in the way she has unleashed a relentless barrage of attacks against him in the days since. 

Sure, she has managed to make an issue of it, and she has managed to cut off coverage of her own problems (Bosnia, Mark Penn, etc.).  But she is doing it in a way that can leave deep scars.  There used to be a standard in campaigns that if you are running against someone in your own party, you can attack an opponent's positions but not his person.  Remember Reagan's 11th Commandment?  Last night in the Compassion Forum on CNN  - where she might have calmed things down - Clinton once again slashed away at Obama personally, calling him elitist, out of touch, and patronizing.  Not surprisingly, she is deeply annoying and antagonizing his supporters (people she may need one day).  And she is fueling their suspicion that out of fierce ambition, she is trying to make him unelectable this fall so that she can win in 2012.
 
It's not clear what genius in the Democratic party created a four-week break between the last primary and Pennsylvania.  But it hasn't served to do the Democrats any favors.    

– David Gergen, CNN Sr. Political AnalystClick here for more blogs from the 360° team

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  1. Amy O'Flaherty

    I'm a Democat and an avid Obama supporter who doesn't understand the hype surrounding his recent comments.

    I would like to note that Senator Clinton is an embarassment. She and Bill are shameless and will stop at nothing to further themselves. They're liars and cheaters. I'm not surprised that Hillary wants to make Obama unelectable so she can have it in 2012. She doesn't care about the good of the party....only the good of herself.

    April 14, 2008 at 7:11 pm |
  2. Tom in Oregon

    Obama spoke the truth about bitterness. The negative reaction about that true shows how difficult it is for a candidate to speak frankly about sensitive discussions.

    Hillary of course shows her true nature by pouncing all over Obama making it a personal attack. You Hillary supporters want a person in the whitehouse who will simply inflame her adversaries in the world? That is not presidential. That is not a leader. That is simply what George W Bush has done for 7 years. If you aren't sick of the same old tactics by American presidents, then elect Hillary or McCain. If you are sick and tired and think that perhaps quite possibly we could have a new start, then vote for Obama.

    April 14, 2008 at 7:09 pm |
  3. June in Canada

    Has Hillary gone too far? Hmm, let me think, Is the Pope a Catholic? However she still has time to sink even lower into the cesspool she has created and I'm sure she will. It brings back the phrase,It's about winning stupid!

    April 14, 2008 at 7:08 pm |
  4. Melissa M

    One wonders if Hillary has gone too far?? Are you serious? Did you listen to Obama's angry rant in response to her comments? Obama claims to be for uniting the country, for opening dialogue, yet when someone critisizes him, he resorts to angry name calling." While we ignorant folk are "clinging to guns and religion" because of our bitterness and broken souls, he's out calling Hillary names, laughing at her (very disrespectful) and was quoted saying "She's talking like she's Annie Oakley! Hillary Clinton's out there like she's on the duck blind every Sunday, [like] she's packin' a six shooter!" That's a very undignified quote – why hasn't anyone called him on it?

    April 14, 2008 at 7:07 pm |
  5. John, Seattle WA

    Hillary's campaign reminds me of the campaign Bush ran against Kerry. Still not sure how Bush got re-elected...oh yes, the exit polls said people where voting because of Bush's religious belief...Interesting.

    But in her defense she is now saying that after helping pass NAFTA, and supporting NAFTA for two decades, making hundreds of thousands of dollars due to NAFTA, she will now "fix" NAFTA...

    You go girl

    April 14, 2008 at 7:06 pm |
  6. Cyrus

    Just wanted to follow up on PARIS'S comment toward Senator Obama ! First on what Senator Obama said about His Grand Mother . In this case, the word TIPICAL was best suited, because of what she said to made him CRINGED ! He LOVE is Granmother, as much as you and I Love our Granmothers. Second, how closely have you been following this Primary ? Not closely enough, if so you would'nt be calling Senator Obama a BITTER person ! Third are you saying hillary is Honest ?

    April 14, 2008 at 7:01 pm |
  7. Carmen

    Eddie that is racist. If you like the Repulican or Clinton's in the White House again then hey vote for them. But I think you would say to yourself down the line that you should have listen to Obama.

    April 14, 2008 at 7:00 pm |
  8. ralph tyler

    With regard to Obama, rural America shouldn't be so sensitive. They are going to have other things to worry about, so they should unknot their shorts and elect someone who will lead them. That would be Obama.

    April 14, 2008 at 7:00 pm |
  9. Dana Johnson Kensington Maryland

    People who view themselves as fighters make everything into a fight. Part of our culture glorifies people getting the crap beat out of them. If she wants to fight so much let her go mud wrestling or something like that. We don't need that kind of person trying to solve problems in a country with many sorts of people with diverse needs and beliefs. There are a lot of different ways to be a violent person. Hillary choses verbal violence , but it is still violence. She reminds me of the mean girl in High School

    April 14, 2008 at 6:59 pm |
  10. geri

    Obama says what he wants to then after someone brings it to light he stumbles around with an excuse and says "what I really meant to say". He's a bit of fluff and yes I do believe he is an elitist.

    April 14, 2008 at 6:59 pm |
  11. Bart

    STOP IT PEOPLE!
    Democratic party is not a mess. It goes through the tougher times – that's it. This bickering will last maybe two more weeks. After NC there will be just one. Then, the voters will stand united to change this country, to stop the war and to show the world what we are capable as a nation. Our best times are ahead.

    April 14, 2008 at 6:57 pm |
  12. maria

    seems to me hillary is doing and saying anything she can to create an opening for herself. i used to support her but she strikes me now as someone whose primary value is winning, above all else. it stinks. we need our democratic candidates to forge a new way, now more than ever. even with the best and the brightest i'm not sure we can find a way out of the hell we've created for ourselves.

    April 14, 2008 at 6:54 pm |
  13. Jennifer

    I find it amazing that Hillary can call out OBAMA as an Elitist when the man clearly isn't as rich as she has been all her life.
    IN her AD she brags on her families summer cottage, how many people in 1950 had the resources to to have a summer cottage.
    She made 109 million dollars. If it wasn't for Barack's books he wouldn't have made what he did.
    Yes he went to an Ivy league school , but so did she.
    But unlike Barack she was NEVER raised by a single mother who had to help support them on FOOD STAMPS,and died at an early age.
    Barack is a man who had to be determined to get where he is today, HILLARY has always had a carpet placed at her feet.
    I used to like the Clinton's until I seen them now for what they are,which are opportunistic that think they are entitled to the presidency , now which candidate is arrogant,patronizing,condescinding,and ELITIST.
    Certainly not OBAMA, and this WHITE BITTER PENNSYLVANIA WILL NEVER VOTE FOR HILLARY LYING CLINTON, or BOMB BOMB BOMB IRAN JOHN McCAIN.

    April 14, 2008 at 6:49 pm |
  14. Jill Erb

    Gina from Lancaster said it all! We are fed up in Harleysville too. Hillary is taking Primary Elections to a new and dangerous direction for the Democratic Party.

    April 14, 2008 at 6:47 pm |
  15. Bob in Sacramento

    Now Obama is calling Hillary "Annie Oakley. " Let's see, how do the words to the from "Annie Get Your Gun" go? "Folks are dumb where I come from, they ain't had any learning. Still they're happy as can be, doin what comes naturally." It sounds like a slur against rural folks to me. it sound elitist to me. Thanks Barack for revealing more about how you really feel.

    April 14, 2008 at 6:46 pm |
  16. jay

    Obama is on my tv with a supporter paid ad as we speak. I wonder if it was paid for by his San Francisco performance to the wealthy for campaign contributions so he could convince the bitter blue-collar small town folks to vote for him. We all can stereotype them now thanks to Obama identifying them as those who cling to their guns and religion because of their bitterness.

    The only problem with this drive-by psychoanalysis is that it's wrong. I was raised by the blue collar workers Obama described. They held their faith to be important when these small Pennsylvania mill towns were prosperous as they do now. Their religion comforts them and inspires them in good times and bad. Obama had no right to prejudge their spirituality or the reason for it. As far as the guns are concerned the same can be said. The guns used for hunting have been around from the days of these prosperous small towns and remain around currently. Now though, many hunters are foraging to put food on the tables because times have become much worse.

    You can slice, dice, and spin this any way you want Obama should never have talked strategy as one HAVE to other HAVES about HAVE-NOTS 2000 miles away. If he wanted to say these things about Pennslyvanians (which he continues defending) than he should have said these things to Pennsylvanians.

    April 14, 2008 at 6:45 pm |
  17. Sandy

    Here is why I think Hillary has to stay in the race. I HAVE CHANGED MY MIND! Yes, I believed that Obama, the change candidate, was fresh and new and exciting and offered hope. I don't believe that any more. I am now scared to death!! We have received so many signs, from Michelle's comments to his relationship with a known terrorist, his relationship with Reverend Wright, the list goes on. He may just be inexperienced or he may have an agenda. I don't want to find out. I will vote for anyone but him. I believe that Hillary has to stay in this thing because as Obama gets tougher questions, tougher audiences and more scrutiny, he is tripping all over himself. I do not want to vote for Hillary or McCain but I will have to pick one of them. I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR OBAMA. I HAVE CHANGED MY MIND!!!!

    April 14, 2008 at 6:44 pm |
  18. Juanita

    Great article David. Hillery just dosen't get it. She is the one out of touch or she just dosen't care. Every time the party gets on track she finds a way to derail it. She is the one who is bitter. She will tear down the party rather than run a clean campaign. She just dosen't have it in her. She is not Bill. If she can't win on her own merits, it appears that she will result to gutter politics just to keep herself going.. What is wrong with her. After seeing this behavior over and over again, I wouldn't trust her in the White House even if she were to win. She needs to clean up her act. After all, she is a lady, isn't she? The new ads from the Clinton campaign are disgusting. Once again, she's off message and on the attack.

    April 14, 2008 at 6:42 pm |
  19. Mark - Pa

    If I'm not mistaken Sen Obama was expressing some of the views and emotions he came across while visiting the small town of Pa.
    Some folks who are NOT from Pa will have no idea how it was and now is and the promises we've heard over n over again!
    Sen. Obama is on point when he made his statement (including the silly bitter word).
    Its rather interesting to see how politicians spin a word and how the supporters so blindly follow!
    Seems they choose their candidate based on who can blow more smoke or put on a better show rather than the issues!
    I understand what Sen. Obama is saying and it speaks volume that behind closed doors he was sending the message of changing Washington to bring about change that even small towns can benifit from!
    He is a man of his word!

    April 14, 2008 at 6:41 pm |
  20. Jacob

    I am bitter and I grew up in a deeply religious, gun happy small town, I too shot guns with my grandpa and guess what... I'M VOTING FOR OBAMA!

    Anyone but McCain or McClinton.

    April 14, 2008 at 6:38 pm |
  21. mitchell martin

    clinton is a 'fighter'.we haven't the time for 'fighting',if we're going to change the direction,we're heading in.she is politics of the past,as well as mccain.we need change,which requires unity,and accepting the 'truth',even when it's not good.obama has brought most of the new voters into this race,and taken many of her backers into the fold,as well as independents,'bitter' about the last 25 years of grid-locked government.clinton is losing supporters every day,with her negative tactics.she is why i registered independent the other day,and donated to obama's campaign.it's refreshing to see a politician,not afraid to tell the truth.

    April 14, 2008 at 6:36 pm |
  22. Susan Hirschy

    Wow David-
    Fierce ambition on the part of Clinton? Isn't that a requisite for all presidential candidates? Your editorial sounded just like so much of what we see lately in the media, or shall I say Obamamedia? He and the pundits constantly attack Hillary Clinton's character, motives, ambition and make general Clinton comments about what amazing politicians they are, but it never sounds flattering. Get a grip and some intestinal fortitude. A lot is on the line with this election and it should be something the candidates are fighting for.

    April 14, 2008 at 6:33 pm |
  23. Patricia

    Obama manages to work through the media's dissection of his words (this time with the full-time help of the Clintons).

    Does the country really want another 8 years of the Clintons? They have to know that she will run her presidency the same way that her husband ran it. Even the commentators agree on that -if people are listening to them.

    NAFTA did begin the process of outsourcing. People who got jobs, lost them shortly after Cllinton's presidency, but the process was started when he was in office. Expect the same thing again.

    I find it rather appauling at how the media and others are trying to peg Obama into a certain kind of candidate – elitist, a Dukakis, a Gore. I don't understand what that means. Gore actually did win.

    My prayer is that people will make up their own minds about their candidate. Not from what the media is saying.

    The Democratic candidate will have more of the conservative votes than ever before. They will have more Black votes than ever before.

    April 14, 2008 at 6:31 pm |
  24. Jen B.

    Hillary has gone too far in her negative attacks, she seems fixated on fighting, instead of having grown-up debates on the issues with her colleague and rival. Her scorched earth tactics are not admirable, her blind ambition ugly, she lost my vote a long time ago.

    April 14, 2008 at 6:30 pm |
  25. Ross

    Obama spoke the truth. People are fedup and frustrated with Washington and politicians who lie to them because they want their vote. After the election is over these same politicians forget about them and sign trade deals like NAFTA and try to pass CAFTA.

    Hillary is far more unelectable than Obama. If Hillary were the nominee, the republicans would say she was for NAFTA before she was against it. They would also use her Bosnia lies against her. They would play Bill and Hillary’s lies back to back and make McCain look like the change candidate. In the past few months alone the Clintons have given the republicans a lot to attack them with.

    PENNSYLVANIA PLEASE DON'T VOTE FOR HILLARY. She does not care about you at all. Bill and Hillary owe so many special interests that it's comical that she would suggest that Obama is out of touch. Her husband and chief strategist could not even wait until after the election to start taking money from people like the Colombian government for passage of another dangerous trade deal.

    April 14, 2008 at 6:29 pm |
  26. JT

    I think it's a given that if Obama says anything that America has not heard from an African American before, let alone one running for president, he's going to have to "explain" and "opologize". As for Hillary she would drown her twin to be president.

    April 14, 2008 at 6:29 pm |
  27. James

    David,

    Obama wasn't rambling on about the truth this country is facing. I watched the forum and he simply put that people are upset with the current administration and mishandling of our government. No one but Obama seem to stand by what he has been saying in his campaign about the economy and welfare of others and about our childrens future. I am bitter too because of all the high gas prices and increase in groceries tax. If every low paying working class citizen was given at least $50 grand we would be a little bit okay. As long as the wrong people run this country and doesn't have a vision the U.S. is always going to get worse. It gotta get worst before its better. So Obama is alright with me and I had thought Hiliary would want whats best for this country rather than used dirty tricks to win an election. We need to work together not fight each other. Rich vs Poor in a fight. The Poor would win, we have nothing to lose.

    April 14, 2008 at 6:28 pm |
  28. steve

    How funny it is to see a Democrat, Hillary, bark and bark about protecting the second amendment!!! This world is just funny at this point....

    Simply an example of Hillary taking any stance she must, in order to win. Obama clearly 'misspoke'.. one of Hillary's claims...when she flat out lies.

    April 14, 2008 at 6:25 pm |
  29. Eddie

    It's obamas true colors. This is what he thinks

    April 14, 2008 at 6:03 pm |
  30. Arthur G

    Folks, read the definition of bitter. Obama is running on a platform of change. Change from what the government is today. If you are happy with high gas prices, happy with jobs shipped to low income countries, then you are not bitter. Also not watching or reading the news that country is being sold right under you in the form of government bonds to China and Mid East countries. How long will you be happy paying high gas prices to foreign countries and having your taxes go to pay interest on bonds sold to foreign countries before helping pay our own social security bills?

    bitter on the Web:

    acrimonious: marked by strong resentment or cynicism;

    expressive of severe grief or regret; "shed bitter tears"
    proceeding from or exhibiting great hostility or animosity; "a bitter struggle"; "bitter enemies"

    bitterness: the property of having a harsh unpleasant taste

    April 14, 2008 at 5:53 pm |
  31. jimmy vekmen

    David Gergen politically savvy analyst saw Obama's condescending
    anr insensitive remarks on small town folks of America. If Hillary is making the point all over Pennsylvania. She wants it to ring all across America., Rural America is the backbone of our country. it's the farmers. the service workers, teachers, middle class. they are not like the aloof and Obama-like aloof and arrogant rich.

    April 14, 2008 at 5:48 pm |
  32. Sabina

    cheers! to Daniel Materu, a thinker! You are so, so right.

    David,
    "One wonders...whether Hillary Clinton hasn’t gone too far" ?

    I have stopped wondering, IT IS CLEAR she has lost all my respect.

    scw.

    April 14, 2008 at 5:42 pm |
  33. Judi Smith

    I do not think she has gone overboard about Obama at all! He would have jumped all over she if she had stated what he said, as he has been extremely cruel to her now it is finally her turn to react to him. He can be very mean spirtied towards her just as the media has mostly been until lately because I think that people are finally realizeing that she WILL be our next president..Sincerely, Judi Smith

    April 14, 2008 at 5:18 pm |
  34. Cathy

    I am not a Hillary Clinton supporter, however as things have progressed I had come to believe that she had a right to remain a participant in this process but to honorably run for the nomination based on her own strengths and attributes, not by trashing her opponent. I saw many of the news blips over the weekend and by yesterday had felt she was overplaying her hand regarding Barack Obama's comments. After all, while the two democrats are opponents, in the big picture they are on the same team. In my view, her attacks had become personal, questioning her opponent's integrity. Throughout her Bosnia crisis, I never heard Barack Obama so much as mention the issue.

    My sense is that what we have seen from Sen. Clinton over the past few days may backfire. As of late, I have wondered whether the voters in these upcoming contest will use their voice and ultimately their vote to send a message about the tone of her campaign. There is another article on this website which notes she was jeered by a crowd today in PA because their interest was in hearing about issues that effect their lives. I also wonder whether the remaining unpledged superdelegates and perhaps even some of her pledged superdelegates might ultimately throw their support behind Barack Obama if this continues because I do believe it is hurting the party and the American people who deserve better from their elected officials, especially in trying times such as these.

    Thanks for the great piece!

    April 14, 2008 at 5:18 pm |
  35. Paris

    OK, now if Hilary is distorting Obama’s bitterness comments.
    I like to know what you call what Obama did with John McCain 100 years comment.
    Was that not distortion? CNN why didn’t notice that?
    CNN why didn’t you scrutinized Obama’s attack on McCain?
    Shame on CNN for being bias.

    April 14, 2008 at 3:45 pm |
  36. Michael, CA

    Hillary is in the wrong here, and she is doing her self and her party a great disservice. Moreover, I’m wondering if former VP Al Gore has taken offence to Sen. Clinton’s personal slam on him during the Compassion Forum last night; as she said he “did not understand, relate to, or respect” the common American voter. I think these comments should be addressed.

    April 14, 2008 at 3:43 pm |
  37. Jim

    HRC's hammering of a non-issue – people are bitter, is already starting to blow up in her face. This fained outrage over a statement that is eerily similar to a point that President Clinton made is the height of audacity. However, the point that her scorched earth tactics are hurting both her and BHO is well-made.

    If she wins PA by wide enough margin to keep slugging on then silly time will move into "shamelessly ridiculous", bash anyone and everyone, time at Camp HRC. Her trashing of Al Gore and John Kerry by reference last night can not help with the DNC insiders she is so desperately courting. Not only will her and Barack be suffering mortal wounds, the entire party will be blooded by the time the IN Primary rolls around.

    Just a note: BHO has more time as an elected office than HRC – he is only "inexperienced", compared to her, in running a nuclear campaign. If national experience is the bar, she loses to McCain.

    April 14, 2008 at 3:40 pm |
  38. Paris

    Obama can believe what he believes, that is not the issue.
    The issue is him misleading the public and not being honest bout it.
    The bitterness of this man is undeniable.
    How many more evidence do we need? This bitterness is reflected in his judgment and choices he makes.
    Listen to his mentor, Listen to this wife, Listen to his comments about his ground mother and now this.
    The pattern is undeniable.

    April 14, 2008 at 3:32 pm |
  39. mary

    Great article David. The Democratic party is such a mess.
    I have reached the point where there is nobody who I can or will vote for when the General Election finally comes around.

    April 14, 2008 at 3:30 pm |
  40. Joseph Kowalski, North Huntingdon, PA

    Rural America shouldn't be offended by what Obama said. He is voicing the thoughts that are in their own heads. I live in Pennsylvania near Pittsburgh and I can tell you there are a lot of bitter people in this area. It's not that we're living in desperation without hope. But we are totally disillusioned with both political parties and the political dynasties which have ruled the United States for the past 20 years.

    Nothing has changed for the small towns which are slowly dying because all of their jobs were outsourced. And as these towns slowly die, the top 1% of this nation continue to get richer expanding the gap between rich and poor to it's largest separation in history.

    For the past 20 years of promises from both Republicans and Democrats, nothing has changed. Yes, that does tend to make people have a bitter taste for politicians and their disingenuous campaign promises.

    April 14, 2008 at 3:16 pm |
  41. Slater

    I agree. None of these clowns are qualified to get us out of the Bush mess. It makes me cringe to think of what will happen, but here are some of my nightmares:

    McCain's first day in office he appoints a republican Supreme Court Judge that seals the reversal of Roe v. Wade;

    Clinton misses that 3:30 a.m. phone call and the Chinese invade and subject us to slavery to pay back our trillions of dollars in debt;

    Obama is seen twirling and scooting in his office chair because he has no idea what running the country looks like, so he waits in bored anticipation for training from the Clinton administration.

    April 14, 2008 at 3:11 pm |
  42. Donna R.

    I do not see how Senator Clinton's comments, on this issue, as attacking. She was speaking up for what she and others see as troubling. I feel that some people would have found her at fault if she had said nothing at all. Obama's apologies are late coming, first he said he wasn't backing down from his comments, but as this thing became a huge negative issue on his campaign he now wants to change what he actually said. As these misspoken words continue to come out, Obama is coming off as no different than any one else from Washington. Barack Obama is now so much on the defensive he will continue to show who he truly is and his campaign will fall apart.

    April 14, 2008 at 3:11 pm |
  43. angie tn

    i'm glad obama said what he said because it's true and for americans to harp on this like hawks on mice is foul..the ones wth money are the one saying he was wrong for saying what he said but US POOR FOLKS say it's true...i am bitter ticked off and tired of being tired. i'm tired of trying to stretch my dollar (which by the way is worth 15 cent) i'm glad we have someone out there stateing truths because the other is disallusion or telling folks what they want to hear at that moment..when you get stuck in a rock an a hard place then come and tell me you're not bitter, mad, upset.,praying,crying..and if i happen to get comments from this blog, no i'm not on welfare.... had to put that in there cause some of ya'll will think i was and they are the only ones who should feel this way right?????????

    April 14, 2008 at 3:10 pm |
  44. CHARLENE PORTSMOUTH ,VA

    obama true colors are showing.. i hope it know to late to undo what we started.

    April 14, 2008 at 3:04 pm |
  45. Gina - Lancaster, PA

    I am a working professional in Pennsylvania, my husband a blue collar worker. Although we are not "bitter", we were also not offended by this comment and knew what Obama was trying to say. He meant that people are fed up with the direction that this country is going and how Washington has handled the issues effecting us (Gas prices, Iraq, jobs being outsourced, etc...) so they are holding on to what is near and dear to them. This statement is true and it's time for CHANGE!

    If you know anything at all about Obama's life, you would know is the farthest thing from an elitist, so for Hillary to call him that... multiple times, shows that she would go to any lengths to win. Some of us here in PA are also fed up with the way the Clinton campaign and it's supporters try to twist everything.

    David Gergen is right – she has gone too far and she is leaving deep scars. I used to think that we had 2 good candidates. If she does somehow win this nomination, I really don't know that I could pull that lever for her after the last couple months of seeing what she is capable of.

    April 14, 2008 at 2:56 pm |
  46. Jeanne

    Ironic that in the "Compassion Forum" Senator Clinton showed so little for her fellow Democrat, with whom she agrees on so many policy issues. It has become so clear that Hillary would prefer to pull the Democratic house down rather than have someone other than herself win. I am afraid that the value that seems most prevalent in Senator Clinton's repertoire is self-interest. Like former President Clinton, Mrs. Clinton is very intelligent and can give voice to the 'right' values when there is no impact on her personally. When either of them feels threatened in a personal way, their other values disappear, and the only visible value is self interest.

    Another trait that seems high on Clinton's value list seems to be "fighting". She earlier stated that she likes it when campaigns become a fight, and she repeatedly reminds us that she's a fighter.
    Apparently some voters find this appealing. I, personally, am tired of constant fighting, in foreign policy, and between the parties in Congress. Her campaign in the last two months has brought up all the memories of the years of fighting in the Clinton administration; so much could have been accomplished if President Clinton had just admitted his mistakes and let the country move on to solve some of the unsolved problems, many that still plague us today. Instead, he (and she) chose to fight, to bring the country to the point of impeachment, rather than admit a mistake. As Carl Bernstein wrote in his blog on this site, another Clinton administration is starting to bring up visions of another four years of conflict. Her insistence on fighting her fellow Democrat, no matter what the cost, to him, herself or the country is appalling.

    I am a 60 year old, white female, who should be a Hillary constituent. I am not; I strongly support Senator Obama as someone who might provide an end to 16 years of intense conflicts, and focus on ways to unite our country, not divide it. I used to think that if Senator Clinton were the nominee, I could vote for her. I now conclude I certainly can not.

    April 14, 2008 at 2:41 pm |
  47. Daniel Materu

    When it comes to the blame game and taking responsibility for their remarks, I think Obama's record proves supreme. Time and time again, Obama is challenged by the public concerning his comments and he does not distant himself from them, rather he is quick to reiterate in a more articulate fashion.
    The previous post [Eileen] refers to him as an "inexperienced politician". If this is the type of person the writer perceives him as, then Obama must be who he says he is. Non-traditional politician, post partisan uniter! An experienced politician is exactly what has brought Washington to it's current state.

    April 14, 2008 at 2:30 pm |
  48. Wis

    They need to talk to about the issues. That's what the American people care about and that's the way to win the Whitehouse.

    April 14, 2008 at 2:17 pm |
  49. Andy

    The truth is the candidate that wins the Presidency has a connection with all Americans now and knows the best Solutions for the critical problems. This should be about the Human condition of all Americans and the best solutions for the country today.

    The truth is the candidates should not be running against media sound bites or who can bring out all the mistakes. This country is in such a serious crisis now that talking about Party, Race, or Gender only sets this country back and does not move us into the very Best for all Americans.

    The discussion for the next President needs to be about connecting to the Human condition of all Americans now and have the best possible Solutions for resolving the country problems today.

    April 14, 2008 at 2:09 pm |
  50. eileen

    I am glad that Obama is showing his true colors!! His comment about pennsilvanian's, just show you he is one more politician!! he's inexperienced.

    Media, keep asking him questions & keep interviewing him .
    Obama, keep talking Obama so that everyone can see that you are just another inexperienced politician.

    Him mocking of Hillary and him trying to say "shame Hillary", just proves his bad tacktics. Obama don't blame others for your mistakes, be a man.

    April 14, 2008 at 2:03 pm |
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