.
April 2nd, 2008
04:51 PM ET

Obama Superdelegate: Dean’s plan to seat Florida delegates won’t work

Editor's note: Jason Rae is a Democratic superdelegate from Wisconsin and has pledged his support to Sen. Barack Obama. He agreed to blog for 360° about his experiences.

ALT TEXT

I was glad to see the joint statement today by the DNC and the Florida Democratic Party over the seating of the Florida delegation to the Democratic National Convention. Governor Dean deserves to be applauded for his continuing efforts to make sure that the voters of Florida are heard and represented.

However, I want to urge caution to Governor Dean and the rest of the Florida delegation. The statement says: “We are all committed to doing everything we can to ensure that a Florida delegation is seated in Denver.” The only thing that can be done though is to allow for a revote of some sort, be it through a primary or a party-run caucus. Anything short of that, such as seating the delegations as is, and we open the floodgates for an even messier nomination process in 2012...

The DNC clearly established rules regarding when states could begin holding their nominating contests. That date was February 5. Florida submitted a plan to hold an event on January 29, several days before the window opens. The Florida Democratic Party was given an opportunity to change their event, but refused to do so back in January. They knew the consequences of their actions and I believe it is imperative that we stick by those consequences. Anything short of redoing the vote gives every other state the opportunity to break the DNC rules in 2012 and make the claim, “Well Florida got away with it, so why can’t we?”

Again, I want to thank Governor Dean for his continuing work on this effort. Florida is a crucial state, and we should continue working on this issue. But, at the same time, we need to remember that they did knowingly violate the rules and regulations that were laid out to them. I hope we continue working on this effort, but to me, the only acceptable solution is holding a new nominating contest in Florida.

– Jason Rae, Democratic Superdelegate

Comments to the 360° blog are moderated. What does that mean?


Filed under: Jason Rae • Raw Politics
soundoff (94 Responses)
  1. Christy

    Anderson what I dont understand is why the emdia and people are saying that Florida's votes and delegates shouldn't stand 1.7 million voters voted in Florida and there were 2 candidates Nobody campaigned poeple made their mind up so wht is undemocratic about that scenario Michigan is different not all 3 candidates were on the ballot Why can't the media explain the differences between the 2 states Also do we not believe that voters with the amount of national media weren"t able to make their minds up with the candidates campaigning What sort of democracy do we believe we have?

    April 2, 2008 at 10:44 pm |
  2. Diane

    I'm getting really sick of hearing about the delegates of Michigan and Florida. They broke the rules knowing full well what the consequences would be. Now everybody is wah wah about it. Let them go to the convetion, but their votes should not count. Another thing that ticks me off is Clinton's remarks about how she is winning the "big" states. So what. There are 50 states in this country, so what if you win a few. Do the rest of us not count? Apparently not according to Hilary Clinton. If we don't count, why should Michigan and Florida. Deal with it Sen. Clinton.

    April 2, 2008 at 10:44 pm |
  3. Simon...Fla

    As a middle aged, married, male longtime South Fla. resident lets be clear about how many feel here about using the February primary results to allocate delegates to either candidate based on whats was advertised and sold here as a "does not count" for ANY democratic candidate.

    There was strong disappointment and even some anger expressed at the time, but we accepted the penalty that resulted from both democratic and republican poltical representatives who decided to forgo our right to participate in the process... just like ALL the candidates did, and we proceeded to vote on the homestead exemption referendum and not focus on the primary candidates..

    What many of us did not realize at the time until the polls closed was that the Clinton machine had been working to promote voting for Hillary, that had been long established and working here for years..not Hillary herself, but her "machine". technically allowing her to say she abided by the rules while her machine promoted the very disenfranchisement of those of us who had no interest in voting for her, but would have definitely voted for another of the candidates if we thought it would have had any value...

    It was shocking to see an organized and televised victory party for Hillary on the very evening of voting by Rep. Wasserman-Shultz and others in Ft. Lauderdale in which Hillary flew in and grabbed the victory trophy for a contest that was not suppose to not exist..

    From my perspective, this is just another "trick" offered up by a Clinton Machine"

    To see "Wasserman_Shultz" talk now about how concerned she is over" My" vote is just infuriating...and confirms only stronger my feelings that it is "Time for a Change" in our politics...

    April 2, 2008 at 10:41 pm |
  4. Michael

    I personally know Anderson and am quite frankly, extremely disappointed with the way he has handled the coverage of this election process. For someone who seems to care about issues and human rights, he has shown a complete lack of judgment, fairness and concern for the millions of american viewers who watch his show. I am sad to say that he is no better than Al Jeezera, at painting an accurate picture of what is going on in our country and in this election.

    I openly believe that Hillary Clinton is by far the better candidate, whether she ducked bullets or not, she WAS in Bosnia in 1996, and in Ireland and China making connections, relationships with foreign countries. Additionally, she was in the White House for 8 years – she knows the routine – what's expected of the "first family", and she has a clear record of voting in the US Senate for 8 years.

    DUE TO THE UNBELIEVABLE UNFAIR CRUCIFICTION OF THIS WOMAN, and the glorification of an unknown man... I could not ever vote for him (Obama) in good conscience. We live in a democracy and thus, all have the freedom to choose who we vote for in this election. If CNN and MSNBC and other media outlets try to SELL YOU/MARKET YOU the "buying into Obama" should they tip this election more in his favor... if you are a democrat or republican or independent... don't just vote for your party because the media tells you too. If Obama STEALS this nomination with the gross and irresponsible help of the media (ANDERSON COOPER 360), and you don't like him... DON'T VOTE FOR HIM. Send a message to washington and Anderson cooper and everybody else who wants to manipulate you just like Al Jazeera... VOTE FOR MC CAIN or write in your candidate's choice.

    Your voice is NEVER wasted when it expresses your beliefs. Neither is your vote. Vote your mind - not Anderson Cooper's.

    April 2, 2008 at 10:32 pm |
  5. Carol

    It is ironic that the DNC is blocking the voters being heard in Florida and Michigan. This is the DEMOCRATIC National Party, not the Disingenuous Nazi Party: Florida and Michigan usually get hurricaned by super delegates like Dean who "call" the nomination before the PEOPLE even get a chance to vote in the Primary. All this nonsense about "breaking the rules" (6 days early? come on!) and "chaos in 2012" sounds like the sermons given by my fifth grade social studies teacher who raved against the commie Viet Cong in 1966. We are all adults here and these are reasonable exceptions. For heaven's sake, the DNC is not infallible! And this election is NOT PRIMARY SCHOOL! (Even a teen-ager can figure that Obama was clued in to the DNC's plan to play hardball, so he didn't put his name on the ballot: Obama openly says in his book that he experimented with drugs! Does this sound like a guy who "plays by the rules"? I want someone with real integrity to serve as our President: Hillary has proven herself. AND she does not need a past or with illogic and fanatical "reasoning" about AIDS, the twin towers, and "white people". AMEN. Welcome Michigan and Florida delegates and SEAT them! Their intentions were good: they only wanted their votes to actually COUNT !

    April 2, 2008 at 10:32 pm |
  6. Justin Carter

    Why is no one talking about how completely idiotic this whole things is? Dean needs to step down. He goes off about Florida and Michigan "breaking the rules."

    IT'S ONLY A ONE WEEK DIFFERENCE PEOPLE! It's absolutely ludicrous to disenfranchise MILLIONS over a primary held only SEVEN days early!

    Come on, Howard Dean, wake up or you'll lose the November election for the Democrats.

    April 2, 2008 at 10:30 pm |
  7. Andy Wilson NY-voting Expat

    Jason – what is messy is that the state party aparatus cannot be rewarded for their own mismanagment – yet the DNC bears partial guilt for allowing this train wreck to occur. Given that voting then, now or when they were supposed to vote, circumstances are not and cannot be the same, there is no 'fair' way to conduct a re-vote. The only 'blind' approach is to split the count 50/50 with each remaining candidate: that will seat the delegation. Yet, many will call foul no matter how the delegation is configured. I think this is the lesser of all evils. Then the delegation can still participate in being invigorated for the General Election and sit on platform committees. I think this is important to state party organization for the GE.

    April 2, 2008 at 10:23 pm |
  8. Adriene, NC

    I think that it would be a good suggestion to divide the FL. and MI. votes between Sen. Obama and Sen. Clinton. I think that the damage to the democratic party in these two states has caused an upset and nothing more than a split will amend some of the voters votes in November. The American people know who will be the next president of the US, and that is Sen. Obama. Sen. Obama is a candiate that we can trust, who stands in the gap for the American people, a man who really wants to see to it that this country is turned around in a positive way. I was for Sen. Clinton until I heard Sen. Obama speak about changing problems with healthcare and that he has a plan to make sure that every American can afford to get it, and changing the pre-exsiting polices that insurance companies carry. He's plan made me want to listen more to what he was talking about. I'd like to say to Sen. Obama, keep fighting, because this is a battle that I know you have already won.

    April 2, 2008 at 10:20 pm |
  9. Ramone Diaz, Venezuela

    Well I just wonder if all the people who works in CNN, except Lou Dobbs, are Obama supporters? To me it looks like all of them hate Hillary an love Obama. Not fair at all I think. But hey, It's just my personal opinion

    April 2, 2008 at 10:19 pm |
  10. Michael

    There was already a vote in Florida and think that it should count. Only if absolutely necessary, should there be another state-wide election. To punish the voters for the sins of the gov't officials who moved the date... would be a huge mistake. We all know that it's in Obama's favor to try for a new vote in Florida and NO VOTE in Michigan. But is that thinking the kind that befits the so-called "great unifier" or "new politician"? It seems obvious that it's simply an old-school political strategy of winning ...or worse... "the do anything to get elected" plan that Obama and media likes to accuse Senator Clinton of.

    Obama needs to step up to the plate here. Florida's vote should count
    and Michigan should have a revote. PERIOD.

    April 2, 2008 at 10:15 pm |
  11. David

    Hillary's supporters are getting desperate – just like the lady herself.

    Quite simply, the voters of Florida and Michigan are not the people yelling for a revote. It is Hillary's campaign and supporters. The people of Florida and Michigan should rightly blame their local election officials for this mess, and vote them out.

    Hillary signed a pledge that she would not campaign in Florida or Michigan and that the votes would not count. She didnt argue about it when she signed the pledge.

    Her negative ratings are going up considerably, to the point where her whole family has become the pariah of the Democratic party. She is destroying any political future for herself and is completely unelectable now.

    Can you imagine if Hillary had been nominated and gone up against the Republican attack machine? It's a good thing the electorate got a chance to see how a Clinton behaves when the chips are down. Not a pretty sight.

    April 2, 2008 at 10:14 pm |
  12. Christine

    Florida should be seated as is beacuse more than a million people voted, and both were on the ballot. For those who say they would have voted but thought it wouldn't count, I say too bad. In some local elections I don't vote because they do what they want anyway and I really can't complain after the fact, can I?

    April 2, 2008 at 10:07 pm |
  13. luvero

    As a Florida voter I understand my primary vote will not be counted because the primary violated DNC rules. I think that inflexibility punishes the electorate to serve the party – hey, isn't that backward? – But I am willing to accept that the rules are the rules just as soon as the same people touting them stop trying to invent new guidelines for the superdelegates. Superdelegated are being pressured to commit by July 1 and to make their votes match with the popular vote, both of which are the antithesis of the purpose and rules for the superdelegates who are meant to be independent and vote as they see fit, with no July 1 deadline.
    If the DNC wants to stick to one rule on the priamry, they should stick to all rules, even when they don't play ion favor of their anointed son Obama. And the DNC should think long and hard about steering this nomination to him. If he is nominated, McCain is the next president.

    April 2, 2008 at 9:56 pm |
  14. Marcia, Pennsylvania

    I heard the Republicans have been finding more dirt on Obama and can't wait to use it. Should he be elected as the Democratic Nominee, he will have a steep uphill battle for the presidency. They will twist his campaign around to their advantage. And I don't believe he'll make it to the top of that hill.

    Hillary is more electable than Obama.

    April 2, 2008 at 9:55 pm |
  15. David

    FL and Michigan needs to be counted- without the two states neither Obama nor Clinton can say they won the popular or delegate vote. Even though Obama looks like a great candidate do the American people really know what he stands for? A question I think needs more scrutiny. What did Obama mean when he said I don’t want them to be ‘Punished with a baby” when he was talking about our children-I believe a baby is a blessing. Can you do some research on that?

    April 2, 2008 at 9:51 pm |
  16. McGee, The OC

    Rules are rules . . . yeah, right ! Political rules were made from the get-go to be rewritten. The DNC has chained it'sself to a sinking ship and the time has come to cut a link and swim free or sink . The well meaning voters of Florida and Michigan broke no rules at all, yet they are actually the ones being penelized. Perhaps the all knowing, yet rubber stamping, super delegates should be hither known more appropriately as the " stuper delegates ".

    April 2, 2008 at 9:36 pm |
  17. Ron

    The issue of seating the delegates falls solely with the voters of Florida. They need to invest in overhauling their election process. They were not able to get it done in 2004 and now botched again. How can we accept any election results coming from poorly organized process?

    April 2, 2008 at 9:31 pm |
  18. George F Sweetwater, Florida

    I can't believe that Obama won't let a revote happen? He will regret that decision from what I hear down here if he wins the Nomination. He better just take a chance at losing a revote down here instead of just leaving us out or doing the 50-50 crap that is just as good as leaving us out. Obama's people were down here pushing to have this revote killed and we aren't forgetting that.

    April 2, 2008 at 9:29 pm |
  19. Paul Daniel Ft. Myers Florida

    Dude. Im a Democrat but just because the "Democratic Party" says they "broke the rules" doesn't mean anything to the people. Who the hell is Howard Dean or anyone who wants to disenfranchise 2 of the largest states in the union. The argument is not about what the state parties did. It is about people's vote counting. It's simple, people have the right to vote, it was taken away by Howard Deans incompetent ass. Iowa and New Hampshire shouldn't have the first votes locked down. Why in the hell does it matter when they voted??? This is just an argument for the Obama camp and has nothing to do with what really matters and that is that the people in Michigan and Florida deserve to have their vote counted and that vote to be represented fully at the convention. This "rules" argument is ridiculous and if Obama wins without a revote, I'll cast my vote for Nader or McCain. Obama holding the ball doesn't see like "a new kind of politics" Actually its more like "the worst kind of politics.

    April 2, 2008 at 9:21 pm |
  20. Gina

    Hello Anderson, And thank you Jason, you are so smart. Im a middle age women that has good judgment however I depend on my 20 and 25 year old children for advice in todays world. Thats why I and spent so much money on collage. people say age and experience need to be the main factor to be president on day one. The only way to know is to be president. Even thats not enough looking at the last seven years. Some of us older people are full of fear and you kids today are so wise. We need a change. Barack Obama will change the world! Anderson I think you are fair. you report what is true. And people know this in their harts. I think God is giving people ears to hear and eyes to see, they cant fight that, its in there soul. keep reporting what you know to be true. And tell Mr. Lou D to chill. He needs to get a job at Fox news.

    April 2, 2008 at 9:19 pm |
  21. Gordon Boaz, AL

    Man.....why on earth would you chose Obama over Hillary. I know the media tells you subliminally that he is a messiah but he's just another politician with a media bias helping him. The story of this campaign is not that Obama was winning, but that Hillary was this close despite the media picking favorites. Aren't you gay also? Doesn't Hillary have more gay support for some reason? Oh thats right, Rev. Meeks is on Obama campaign and he hates gay people. Hope you don't have a super delegate meeting and have to sit next to that guy. Put down the Kool Aid Jason!

    April 2, 2008 at 9:13 pm |
  22. Annie Kate

    I'm sure the voters themselves had no say in when the original primary was scheduled yet they are the ones being told their votes don't count. IF it was a republican state government making the decision perhaps the GOP should pay for the revote since their actions directly disenfranchised the Democrats. A revote is needed and it shouldn't matter whether Obama or Clinton want it or not. Those people deserve their chance to voice their choice as well as the rest of us.

    For the Election in 2012 both parties need to go by popular vote. This delegate mess is too reminiscent of the Electoral College mess in 2000 that cost Gore the White House. And while we are at it we should do a constitutional amendment to take the Electoral College out of the process too – popular vote, the will of the voters, should be the only thing that decides the election.

    Annie Kate
    Birmingham AL

    April 2, 2008 at 9:13 pm |
  23. Sherwood M.

    Does Jason really think we care what he thinks? He cautions Mr. Dean...give us a break, this kid still has snot running down his nose, and just because he or his family is plugged in and connected he is gaining stardom, getting his 15 minutes of fame as a Super Delegate.

    Here's a CLUE Jason...Florida did vote, OBAMA LOST. Let the vote stand, and seat the delegates based on that vote, or see a LOT OF DEMOCRATS like myself turn our back on the party and toss our support behind McCain.

    You and Mr. Dean and some other Democratic cigar chompers might want to throw the election to Obama, but you do so at the parties risk...this year, the average joe blow white man's voice and vote will decide the election, and Senator Obama's attempts to steal the nomination are about to SHATTER the Democratic Party.

    April 2, 2008 at 9:00 pm |
  24. Glenn from Washington

    Superdelegates beware – This is what's really going on behind the scenes: Don’t you see what Clinton is really doing? She is trying to prolong this process in order to destroy any chance of the Democrats taking the White house in 2008. She knows she will not be the nominee of the party. The only thing she can do is destroy the party now and run again in 2012. With Obama losing to McCain; Hillary will have a clear shot into the next Presidential Election in 2012

    April 2, 2008 at 8:55 pm |
  25. Al

    OK... simple solution to the super delegate dilema. The number of delegates that are needed to win the democratic nomination is 2024.
    This number is 1/2 of the total delegates available counting all of the primaries including Michigan and Florida. If you're not counting the 366 delegate from Michigan and Florida, just subtract 183 delegates from the 2024 number needed to win the nomination. This will make the number needed to win the nomination 1841.
    Make sense?

    April 2, 2008 at 8:50 pm |
  26. Manuel Bravo

    It is interesting to hear the contradictions in Hillary Clinton's position that all votes should be counted. She decried the intervention of the Supreme Court in the Florida 2000 election case, but she advocates that super delagates should select the democratic nominee without regards to the national primary elections results.

    It is clear that Ms. Clinton can not overtake Mr. Obama in the total popular votes nor in the total number of pledged delegates. Ms. Clinton's ethical position is such that if the is to be ethically consisten, then the super delegates should vote for Obama and not overturn the national vote, but she wants the contrary, she wants the superdelegates to overide the popular will and select her as the Democratic Nominee. This is highly hipocritical of her. She is only interested in her own pursuit of power and not the natinal interest or the will of the people.

    Manuel

    April 2, 2008 at 8:30 pm |
  27. Susan

    I have a real problem with the whole Florida thing. Hillary has bashed Obama for weeks now telling the Florida voters that Obama is responsible for their votes not being counted. What a bold faced lie! Listen to her earlier in the campaign saying that FL would not count because they broke the rules. Now that it would be a clear advantage to her, she wants their votes counted and the delegates awarded accordingly. Even if they split them evenly, whats to say that the 50% awarded to Obama couldn't change their votes in the second round of the convention to endorse their "savior" and "great protector" Hillary thereby stealing another election. Florida is just riddled with problems and questionable tactics when it comes to elections. They broke the rules! Whatever is decided has to be binding and fair and equal to both candidates.

    April 2, 2008 at 8:22 pm |
  28. April in Texas

    Pretty smart for being such a young man, no wonder he is a super delegate. I agree those that broke the rules should be held accountable. As I can tell those in florida mainly voted for a local bill regarding a tax of some sort and they KNEW ahead of time the canidate vote wouldnt count. To cry foul after the fact and to allow Florida and Michigan to have the deciding factor in this election is unreasonable as that is why they moved up the voting date to begin with. For a revote that would be rewarding them for disregarding the rules. As I was told as a child cheaters never win and winners never cheat.

    Obama 08

    To those that support Hillary.. CNN actually has a fair share of Hillary supporters althugh most of them happen to work during the day or morning hours. A main Hillary supporter is James Carville and he has been on AC 360 several times.. Hope that helps you guys and gals some.

    April 2, 2008 at 8:11 pm |
  29. David

    I think the rest of the country should secede from the Union leaving Florida all alone.

    We can call ourselves USA Version 2.

    April 2, 2008 at 8:01 pm |
  30. Lisa of Florida

    I’ve meticulous been watching this election. Hillary has been playing a serious game of switch-a-roo. Hillary has been downing Obama, for keeping Floridians and Michigans, like myself from voting. Her husband said chill out let the voters decide. Yet, she has said basically if she doesn’t win she’ll take it all the way to the DNC. Ultimately, disenfranchising 100’s of millions of voters. This number game is pathetic. I voted in Florida, but most of my family did not, because we all thought our vote did not count. I tried to encourage my family to vote (I know Hillary) but they didn’t. I, and most Floridians understood that our votes weren’t being counted and we aren’t discouraged. If our elected officials broke the rules, we aren’t children and we won’t die, we’ll get even. We will vote out those officials next term. The number of Republicans that voted, were almost equal to the Democrats in Florida; that’s a first for this 2008 election. Everywhere else Democrats out voted at least 2 to 1. This vote can’t stand!

    April 2, 2008 at 7:08 pm |
  31. becky

    i think hillary got her votes fair and sqare in flordia and they should be given to her and obama pulled his name off of michigan and you got the votes and thats obama fault,tell him to quit winning and move on down the ,to quote yes we can!

    April 2, 2008 at 7:08 pm |
  32. Yvonne

    Obama has won 15 Primaries and 15 Caucuses=30 states
    Hillary has won 12 Primaries and 2 Caucuses=14 states
    (This does not include Michigan and Florida)

    I find it weird and scary that we cannot tell who the winner is. Whats going on?
    The Primaries are not government run. Its a private election of a company sponsoring someone to represent them. The DNC has the right to choose a candidate with or without the publics opinion. They choose to open it to the public to decide because we are a democracy. The people have spoken, lets move on. The people spoke in Iowa when Hillary came in third. The people spoke on February 5th when Obama won more states. The Republicans have their man, let us select ours. All this about Florida and Michigan having their say is nonsense. They can have their say in the general. Its time to start the debates against John McCain. Obama will win in November with a sweeping victory.

    April 2, 2008 at 7:06 pm |
  33. tricia

    I can not imagine how the primary would be if we all voted on one day. I think the debates are a good thing. I have an idea. What about 10 states at a time vote on the primary. Chunk them according to location. Take the map and make a grid. One month for each block on the grid. After five months tally up the votes and we have a winner. One year start in the west, the next election start in the east. It would also save a little jet fuel. Talk about a cross country race!

    April 2, 2008 at 7:06 pm |
  34. Lilibeth

    Hi Jason, I agree with what you said. I would also add that anything the DNC will come up with to try to fix this whole mess will just be a band-aid. It will not solve the real problem, and that is the current nomination/primary/caucus process does not work. It needs to be re-looked at and revamped so that it works for the entire country and doesn't cause the turmoil that we've already seen.

    Lilibeth
    Edmonds, Washington

    April 2, 2008 at 6:44 pm |
  35. Ham

    What is it with Florida and voting...
    Of course one year it's very important... and now it's not?

    HYPOCRACY 08

    April 2, 2008 at 6:43 pm |
  36. Jan from Wood Dale, IL

    If the DNC set the rules with the date of Feb. 5th, then how come Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina votes count? They all held their nominating contests BEFORE Feb. 5th.

    April 2, 2008 at 6:39 pm |
  37. tricia

    Paris, it could be that there is nothing positive to say about them!!!

    April 2, 2008 at 6:37 pm |
  38. Merc

    Oops–I meant Joseph, not Jason.

    Also, I'd like to clarify a bit–I'm not arguing for any one solution over another. I think that, if there is a way for this to be resolved properly, it will take people much smarter than I am.

    April 2, 2008 at 6:34 pm |
  39. tricia

    You Hillary fans are funny, I have friends that think CNN stands for Clinton News Network. You must have been in a coma the two weeks that CNN showed clips of Obama's preacher 24 hours a day. How is that bias. Speaking of bias, what about Hillary suppose to be gunfire. I only heard that once. I DO NOT think Michigan and Florida should be seated. They knew before, enough said.

    April 2, 2008 at 6:33 pm |
  40. Merc

    While I understand where Jason is coming from, his reasoning actually turns out completely unfair.

    It is true that they only have their state politicians to blame. However, these are disenfranchised voters who happen to be Democrats. If the politicians that supported the move in the first place happen to be Republicans (as is the purported case in Florida), the chance that the voters who are paying the consequences voted for the politicians is pretty slim, and you'd basically be punishing the wrong people.

    In a sense, you have GOP voters and politicians effectively silencing their native Democrats in the Primary. Since the Republican party as already set the precedent of seating half the allotted Republican delegates when a state "cheats," this can become a bit of a strategical tool: if you're willing to give up half your voice, you can make sure the Democrat next door to you has none at all.

    The reason states clamor to move up their primaries is the inherent unfairness of staggered primaries in the first place. Nobody knows when the race will be "called," but the earlier you are in the schedule, the more likely it is that your vote will count. If even time zones can cause a problem in the general election, how can the staggered primaries not cause a problem?

    April 2, 2008 at 6:31 pm |
  41. jim in pennsylvania

    i agree both states need to be seated some way- but the real truth is that rules are rules and the voters of both states can remember to get all the politicians out of office that allowed this to happen in the first place.
    i was a clinton supporter until two weeks ago and when i found out she has run her campaign on mostly made up ideas and things she is telling the voters here in pennsylvania is downright ludricrist.. what she says she wil do would not even get the support of a vote in the senate let alone the house.
    i wish other supporters of hilary would take a second look before the april 22 primary in pa. i am sure glad i did.
    the sniper gunfire in bosnia is what got me to start paying attention here in pennsylvania
    thank you

    April 2, 2008 at 6:30 pm |
  42. EJ - Ohio

    Dean is probably wondering "Why did I take this stupid job to begin with?"

    April 2, 2008 at 6:30 pm |
  43. Taj

    Jason, I am for Obama. I like his approach to everything he stands for. I used to like Hillary but with all the circus & games she played or playing, I will only vote for her if she wins on a good margin. I will not vote Republican. Screw Florida & Michigan. Obama's camp is not stupid, they need to enforce their terms to their benefi. A 50-50 split is Ok with me. No Redo.

    April 2, 2008 at 6:28 pm |
  44. Carolyn

    I can began to understand the pressure that Howard Dean is under in trying to make sure that the Floridians have their voices heard. However, the rules are the rules. In each decision that we make, there are consequences. They decided to knowingly disregard those rules. Now, they want the DNC to make concessions for the consequences that they brought on themselves? I would have to agree that it would be a mess in 2012. There is way that other states would not want to try the same scenario if Florida and Michigan get away with it.

    April 2, 2008 at 6:00 pm |
  45. Lisa

    Let's hope by 2012 there are new rules in place to begin with - such as a National Primary Day where all states vote on the same day, or a 1 or 2 month process where all states vote within that time frame.

    Jason, really your participation is greatly appreciated but there is some history that relates to why so many states moved up their primaries - and that has to do with NOT having our votes matter where the nominee is concerned. But you would not understand having never voted before.

    The best thing this particular primary season has done is to shed light on the idiotic rules that control the nominating process. The Super Delegates need to be disbanded; the primary "season" needs to be shortened. And this is something that needs to be done with both the DNC and RNC.

    Florida and Michigan "broke the rules" as you put because they wanted their votes to count. And now you want to penalize them for that. They have already been penalized for many primary seasons prior to this when the nominee was all but decided by the time it was their turn to vote. Sometimes exceptions to the rules need to be made.

    If one plays by the rules and still loses enough times, they will break the rules ... and then it must be examined why this occurred so that positive changes can be made for future ... in this case in time for 2012 election cycle.

    April 2, 2008 at 5:41 pm |
  46. Cindy

    Jason,
    I am with you on that they should have followed the rules to begin with. But instead of a revote I think to get rid of this whole issue that Dean should just halve the delegates between the both of them and be done with it. The cost of a revote will be way too much and who will pay for it?

    And you are right also that if they get a revote now then in the coming years this will always be brought up when ever any little problem about voting arises. So we need to stick with the plan and do as the rules stated.

    Cynthia, Covington, Ga.

    April 2, 2008 at 5:35 pm |
  47. Paris

    Although I don’t think CNN will post this I’m going to write it anyway.
    Isn’t that interesting that the only contacts CNN has are mainly with Obama people.
    Is that because CNN is not trusted by the other two candidates.
    Or maybe it’s the fact that they are so BIAS that they only try to obtain Obama allies to correspond with.
    How could it be that in the past 4 months CNN had nothing positive to report on Hillary or McCain.

    April 2, 2008 at 5:25 pm |
  48. Marg

    Anderson it is so unfair to Hillary 's supporters who listen to CNN. The spectators holds such bias comments against Hillary. As a Hillary supporter we need someone to speak for us. I asking you to be fair and try to understand how it feels not to have a voice or someone to speak for you.

    April 2, 2008 at 5:20 pm |
  49. Sarah

    I am so so sick of the superdelegates! I am sorry, but the whole idea flies in the face of our Constitution!

    April 2, 2008 at 5:13 pm |
  50. Joseph Kowalski, North Huntingdon, PA

    You're right, Jason. Allowing Florida and Michigan to be seated as they are would lead to complete chaos in 2012, with each state trying to get the jump on the others by scheduling earlier and earlier primaries.

    However, I disagree about a re-vote. Both Florida and Michigan knew the consequences of moving their primary. If the voters of Florida and Michigan feel disenfranchised, they have only their own state politicians to blame, and they should exact political revenge by voting out every state politician, Democrat and Republican, who supported the primary move.

    April 2, 2008 at 5:03 pm |
1 2