March 26th, 2008
10:14 AM ET

Bernstein: Hillary Clinton: Truth or Consequences

Hillary Clinton has many admirable qualities, but candor and openness and transparency and a commitment to well-established fact have not been notable among them.  The indisputable elements of  her Bosnian adventure affirm (again) the reluctant conclusion I reached in the final chapter of A Woman In Charge, my biography of her published last June:   

Hillary Clinton

“Since her Arkansas years [I wrote], Hillary Rodham Clinton has always had a difficult relationship with the truth... [J]udged against the facts, she has often chosen to obfuscate, omit, and avoid.  It is an understatement by now that she has been known to apprehend truths about herself and the events of her life that others do not exactly share. " [italics added] 

As I noted: 

“Almost always, something holds her back from telling the whole story, as if she doesn’t trust the reader, listener, friend, interviewer, constituent—or perhaps herself—to understand the true significance of events…”

The Bosnian episode is a watershed event, because it indelibly brings to mind so many examples of this tendency– from the White House years and, worse, from Hillary Clinton’s take-no-prisoners presidential campaign. Her record as a public person is replete with “misstatements” and elisions and retracted and redacted and revoked assertions...     

When the facts surrounding such characteristic episodes finally get sorted out - usually long after they have been challenged - the  mysteries and contradictions are often dealt with by Hillary Clinton and her apparat in a blizzard of footnotes, addenda, revision, and disingenuous re-explanation: as occurred in regard to the draconian secrecy she imposed on her health-care task force (and its failed efforts in 1993-94); explanations of what could have been dutifully acknowledged, and deserved to be dismissed as a minor conflict of interest - once and for all - in Whitewater; or her recent Michigan-Florida migration from acceptance of the DNC’s refusal to recognize those states’ convention delegations (when it looked like she had the nomination sewn up) to her re-evaluation of  the matter as a grave denial of basic human rights, after she fell impossibly behind in the delegate count.
The latest episode - the sniper fire she so vividly remembered and described in chilling detail to buttress her claims of  foreign policy “experience” - like the peace she didn’t bring to Northern Ireland, recalls another famous instance of faulty recollection during a crucial period in her odyssey.On January 15, 1995, she had just published her book, It Takes a Village, intended to herald a redemptive “come back” after the ravages of health care; Whitewater; the Travel Office firings she had ordered (but denied ordering); the disastrous staffing of the White House by the First Lady, not the President - all among   the egregious errors  that had led  to the election of the Newt Gingrich Congress in 1994.On her book tour, she was asked on National Public Radio about the re-emergence of dormant Whitewater questions that week, when the so-called “missing billing records” had been found. Hillary stated with unequivocal certainty that she had consistently made public all the relevant documents related to Whitewater, including “every document we had,” to the editors of the New York Times before the newspaper’s original Whitewater story ran during Bill Clinton’s 1992 presidential campaign.    

Even her closest aides - as in the case of the Bosnian episode18 years later - could not imagine what possessed her to say such a thing.  It was simply not true, as her lawyers and the editors of the Times (like CBS in the latest instance) recognized, leading to huge stories about her latest twisting of the facts. “Oh my God, we didn’t,” said Susan Thomasas, Hillary’s great friend, who was left to explain to the White House lawyers exactly how Hillary’s aides had carefully cherry-picked documents accessed for the Times in the presidential campaign.  The White House was forced - once again - to acknowledge the first lady had been ‘mistaken;” her book tour was overwhelmed by the matter, and Times’ columnist  Bill Safire that month coined the memorable characterization of Hillary Clinton as “a congenital liar.”

“Hillary values context; she does see the big picture. Hers, in fact, is not the mind of a conventional politician,”  I wrote in A Woman In Charge. “But when it comes to herself, she sees with something less than candor and lucidity. She sees, like so many others, what she wants to see.”

The book concludes with this paragraph:

“As Hillary has continued to speak from the protective shell of her own making, and packaged herself for the widest possible consumption, she has misrepresented not just facts but often her essential self.  Great politicians have always been marked by the consistency of their core beliefs, their strength of character in advocacy, and the self-knowledge that informs bold leadership. Almost always, Hillary has stood for good things. Yet there is a disconnect between her convictions and her words and actions. This is where Hillary disappoints. But the jury remains out. She still has time to prove her case, to effectuate those things that make her special, not fear them or camouflage them. We would all be the better for it, because what lies within may have the potential to change the world, if only a little.”

The jury - armed with definitive evidence like the CBS tape of  Hillary Clinton’s Bosnian adventure - seems on the verge of returning a negative verdict on her candidacy.   

– Carl Bernstein, 360° Contributor Editor's note: Read other blogs from the 360° team of contributors at cnn.com/360

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  1. larry loebig

    Obama embellished his conception - Hillary embellished her trip to Bosnia .... Does anyone care about the economy or getting us out of Iraq?

    March 26, 2008 at 1:42 pm |
  2. Dada

    Just wondering if anybody else thought it a bit "un-American" to have two families run this FREE democracy for more than two decades?

    To the latest Hillary "mis-speak", I was shocked. Not because she said it but because it finally made me realize that her reality is truly her own. Scaringly similiar to our current President. Doesn't it remind you of Captain Ahab of the Moby Dick lore? "Stick your harpoon in the prize and tie yourself to the cause – let them pry it from my dead dry skeleton! – There she blows!!!" Like Bush is tied to this war, so she seems tied to her own reality. Sad I think.

    I was shocked also to hear her comments about Obama and his FORMER pastor. I would have thought that of all people Hillary would understand the difficult and some times painful challenge of hanging on to someone you love, even if their words and/or deeds cause you public embarrassment and political harm. And yes, last time I checked spouses were "chosen" not inherited or appointed, and divorce is still legal in all 50 states, but she "chose" to stay with her hubby even after impeachment. I admired her strength and seemingly forgiving heart to stay with her choice and her family (cause I do like me some Billy), but now wonder how she could so quickly forget when it comes to showing empathy towards others caught in the same storm of others actions. At a minimum I thought she might remain silent and differing on the issues. At best she could have offered her support and made major points by pointing out her own courage stand against similar scrutiny. My granny used to tell me all the time – "boy, be careful not to throw rocks at folks when your house is made of glass."

    I just HOPE that we are all collectively able to still make some sense out of this mess enough to elect someone who at least gives us a chance to bring Change, the Troops Home, good care for our families, and a chance to acquire and stay in a home, and most of all restore HOPE to our young people that they again can be safe, and VIEWED proudly by our allies and yes, even those we don't agree with or look like. I guess even us baby boomers are not too old to still dream, or have the Audacity to HOPE.

    peace and prosperity to us all – God please Bless the USA

    March 26, 2008 at 1:41 pm |
  3. Chip

    It should come as no surprise that Hillary would lie, it seems to be a trait all politicians have and the Clinton's are the best at it. Yet she seems to forget he got in front of the whole world and lied to the American people about sex, so maybe lying about sniper fire is no big deal. However, should be asked to forget Foster, Travelgate, Whitewater, billing records, health care reform and so many others where the facts are fuzzy? with all her baggage (and Bill is part of it) how she can make the comments she did about Baracks preacher is scary. Do we really want someone who has such a problem with memory (or is just a born liar) answering that phone ay 3:00 AM?
    I think not.

    March 26, 2008 at 1:41 pm |
  4. allxdreamer

    Can't you Obama supporters do better than this? What about Wright saying the U.S. infected ppl in Africa with Aids? Does that make a bit of sense? The U.S. gives millions of dollars to Africa to fight aids, why would we infect them and then give them money to treat and fight aids? How incredible is that? And Obama listened to this for 20 years. Obama supporters are just looking for any little thing to put down on Hillary. But you have never seen Hillary in a KENYON ISLAM RITUAL OUTFIT?

    In every speech I have seen Obama make, he lies in everyone of them. First he said he wasn't present during Wright's sermons then on another speech he said he was present. Lies, Lies, and more lies to cover up those lies. And then CNN has the nerve to report this factitious article.

    March 26, 2008 at 1:41 pm |
  5. TJ

    UTICA - When the Rev. William Procanick put his hand on the Bible during his sex-abuse trial in Oneida County Court earlier this year, he swore to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
    But as the former Clinton pastor was sentenced Friday to three years in prison for inappropriately touching a 7-year-old girl at his home last March, Judge Michael L. Dwyer said Procanick sacrificed his honesty the day he testified.
    "As a minister of God, you got on the stand and you lied," Dwyer told Procanick, the 54-year-old former pastor of Resurrection Assembly of God church on Kirkland Avenue.
    A jury found Procanick guilty Jan. 22 of first-degree sexual abuse and endangering the welfare of a child.

    March 26, 2008 at 1:41 pm |
  6. Richard Donin

    i have tried, unsuccessfully, to leave a comment and been shifted to "Word Press" and told I've already left a comment...Is this how CNN truly works?

    Due to Ms. Clinton's statements, tactics, and choice of campaign staff, I can only conclude that she is purposefully attempting to split the Democratic Party thereby allowing John McCain to win the Presidency. All this in front of a background of the Bush Administration's record low popularity, an economy in recession, increasing job losses, a highly unpopular war, dismal consumer confidence, and global warming. Is Ms. Clinton truly willing to destroy "her" party or is it that the two party system Americans have come to "believe" in is actually closer to the Wizard Of Oz with a one party ruling elite having two marketing arms using the names of Democratic and Republican?

    March 26, 2008 at 1:41 pm |
  7. Cammi317

    She did not forget what happened in Bosnia, SHE SIMPLY FORGOT THAT THE MEDIA WAS THERE TAPING. You don't forget whether or not you were under sniper fire when you were visiting another country. I doubt Hillary Clinton as First Lady or otherwise has had many times (if any) that she was under the fire of snipers. There is no way she would forget the when and where. She didn't just say it in the context of a speech, she affirmed it in an interview afterwards. When she was questioned about it afterwards that should have been her cue to come clean about having "misspoken", but instead she affirmed her absurd tale.

    On another note, you people vowing to vote for McCain if your candidate does not win the nomination are idiots. Either you are a Democrat that supports the political views of the party or you are not. A True Democrat would not leave our troops in Iraq for another 100 years just for spite. You people act like these candidates are the new coming of God. Get a grip.

    March 26, 2008 at 1:41 pm |
  8. John B.

    Hillary Clinton is a liar!!! I broke my arm when I was 13. I am now 47. I broke my arm 34 years ago. How did Hillary forget that she was being shot at? Being shot at,it is much more traumatic than breaking an arm. A person that is in their right mine would never forget if they had been shot at.

    March 26, 2008 at 1:41 pm |
  9. Joe

    For those of you saying "whats the big deal" and "lets focus on real issues" I see your point, but have to differ. The reason that this is "real" is that Hillary Clinton made it so. She is the one who has been consistently and repeatedly hurling accusations at Obama that he is not sufficiently experienced on the world stage to effectively function as president. the centerpiece of her candidacy is the vast experience that she draws upon as her own. Of all the experiences in her 35 years, she chose this incident (as she "remembered" it) to repeat at least 4 times in the last week as the main example of her foreign policy experience. a patently ridiculous argument to make anyway. either way, this "running and ducking from incoming sniper fire" was either a figment of her imagination or a flat out lie. The fact that she needed to rely on an incident that didn't actually exist in making the argument that she is vastly more qualified than her opponent leads to the very reasonable conclusion that her claims of such experience aren't sufficiently based in reality.

    March 26, 2008 at 1:41 pm |


    March 26, 2008 at 1:40 pm |
  11. Brandon

    Reading through these comments honestly has me worried about the state of our country and the mental capacity of the common American.

    Why are the Clinton supporters so bitter towards Obama? Some of these comments try and paint him with devil-like qualities. Last time I checked, Clinton was the one to start lobbing bombs over the fence. Obama has been on the defensive since Day 1. Also, Clinton supporters are quick to point out people AROUND Obama with somewhat questionable characteristics. But the issue here with Clinton directly relates to her personality and attributes as a leader. Embellishing the truth or flat out lying (whatever you want to call it) and doing so on a constant basis is a serious issue when thinking of an individual running for a leadership position (let alone THE leadership position). Little 'misstatements' like this call into question a majority of what she says to the public and general media. How can you take any of her stories to heart knowing she might be BS'ing you? This is the same old political game that is plaguing Washington and consenquently keeping hte distance between the American people and those who make decisions for them. I for one am tired of the lies and lack of transparency. This is one of many reasons Obama gives me hope for our future.

    And speaking of 'our' future, I think Democrats really need to stop this bickering and focus on whats important, which is taking over the White House, bringing our troops home and focusing hard on the economic situation we have on our hands. Do an Obama-Clinton ticket....whatever it takes! All this bickering has made Dems put their blinders on. Open your eyes people! Stay the path!

    March 26, 2008 at 1:40 pm |
  12. kaz


    March 26, 2008 at 1:40 pm |
  13. Stephen S. from Wisconsin

    I'm very tired of politics as usual in our country. Can't we all just get along. I had been somewhat ambivalent about who would be selected to represent the Democratic Party in the upcoming Presidential election. However, after the last few weeks of nasty comments and responses by the candidates and their respective campaigns, I am convinced that Senator Clinton has been accurately portrayed as lacking in sufficient moral character to tell things as they truly are.

    I am sick of being lied to. I am sick of having a leader who is willing to do the wrong thing (torture) to TRY to get the right result (torture gets bad intelligence). Where were the weapons of mass destruction? Where was Saddam Hussein's ties to Al Queda?

    The United States of America is supposed to stand for TRUTH and JUSTICE. That is the American way.

    I vote against liars and I vote against torture.

    I vote for Obama.

    March 26, 2008 at 1:40 pm |
  14. Allan R

    At first glance this does seem like the kind of crap that gets in the way of “the real issues”.

    On the other hand, it is one more thing on the list of things that suggests Hillary is a HABITUAL LIAR. Habitual Liars start out telling little white lies. Sometimes they lie to themselves to justify their own or other’s actions (for instance with an unfaithful marriage?!?) and sometimes it’s to cover their own rear.

    Then the lies get bigger. Then the person starts confusing or blending fact and fiction and eventually, they’ve got no idea what’s a truth or lie and further, they actually believe their lies are real, true stories. I’ve seen this first hand with my own father with his infidelity (and likely other things) and the first thing I though as I saw this story on Glenn Beck was my parents marriage, the Clinton’s marriage, and the striking behavioral similarities between the lying and the actions when caught.

    So at second glance you have to ask yourself if a habitual liar should be in the White House. Sure, all politicians are liars. But still.

    March 26, 2008 at 1:40 pm |
  15. Isaac

    The only thing that is clear reading these comments is how divided the democratic party has become. Obama supporters see pure evil in Hillary, Clinton supporters pure evil in Obama. It is all so over the top and I believe driven by a news media that favors sound bite over context, and reporting opinion as fact.

    I have my candidate preference but it is pointless airing it here. I just wonder if either Obama or Clinton has any hope to win in November!

    March 26, 2008 at 1:40 pm |
  16. Colby

    dear Hillary supporters,

    after showing amazing leadership qualities in sticking with her lying cheating husband, hillary has proven herself to also be a lying, cheating politician. if i 'misspeak' at a meeting during work, i can get fired. if i am 'foggy' on what happened during my business trips, i am crucified. she is a LOSER. she stuck with wild bill long enough to sneak her way into politics and got elected on the pity card. now she wants to get elected on the woman card?? any feminist who casts a vote strictly based on sex is a moron and should move to canada. who do you want answering the phone at 3 in the morning, someone with experience at having tea parties with other politicians wives. or someone who will lie about the purpose of the call??? either way, vote for hillary!! please stop plaguing this country with the idea that a majority of the incompetent idiots that exist here will actually vote her back into the white house. The only credit I will ever give her is her reluctancy to quit, hence destroying the democrats chance at regaining the white house. great job hill, you're a true american. John McCain will dominate.


    Colby, NJ

    March 26, 2008 at 1:40 pm |
  17. David

    Hmmm...to paraphrase her husband, I guess it depends on what the definition of "sniper fire" is.

    March 26, 2008 at 1:39 pm |
  18. Marc Shaw

    It's really too bad. A woman President could be very good for this country. I think of Golda Meir, Indira Gahndi and Margeret Thatcher, women of backbone and principle and a strong leadership during difficult times in their nations. Hillary is just too dishonest. She has obfuscated or covered the truth so often, we will never know if what she is telling us is true or not.

    March 26, 2008 at 1:39 pm |
  19. CR

    This article is so true! I completely agree with Steve – she is power hungry all she wants is to get to the White House no matter what and that is why she stayed with her husband – tell me what woman in her right mind would stay with someone who humiliated her in front of the entire world after. I am all for a woman president as I am sure many Americans are, but not Hillary. I rather have a woman president that knows what she is doing, doesn't embarrass herself by flat out lying on National T.V., has some class and some sense of dignity. If Hillary wins the nomination the White House stays with the Republicans and I am not sure that is a bad thing considering that she would be the alternative. Go Obama – now there is a man with integrity!

    March 26, 2008 at 1:39 pm |
  20. Gill in Italy

    American people choose your next president wisely. Your choice will CHANGE the future of the world!

    Do you really feel as though you can trust a president who is economical with the truth and prone to fantasy. This is dangerous for all of us.

    Please don't vote for another Clinton, especially one who is as two faced as Hillary. All the troubles that Bush has stirred up have been bad enough.

    Obama may not be super experienced or perfect but he is the best option.

    March 26, 2008 at 1:39 pm |
  21. Cal

    Hillary does, This Above All Else, To Thine Own Self Be True..... mean anything?

    March 26, 2008 at 1:39 pm |
  22. VINNY

    I said stop posting good things about that guy, and bad things about this hard working great hearted woman. Otherwise I will teach you a lesson . Understand?

    March 26, 2008 at 1:39 pm |
  23. D. Smith

    The press has its own credibility problems when it concerns the Clintons. A case in point is the oft repeated "draconian secrecy she imposed on her health-care task force." Really? Five-hundred people on a task force in Washington and there was secrecy? Actually there was a story about what happened in the task force meetings after every meeting. Some secrecy.

    The press makes such a big deal about not having the Whitewater records (as Mr. Bernstein does now) when they wanted them. That's because after microscopic scrutiny of these records by all the major newspapers, and a special prosecutor ($60M worth), nothing of substance was discovered. So they bash the Clintons for not releasing records that would constitute the "smoking gun."

    March 26, 2008 at 1:39 pm |
  24. Larry in Danbury CT

    Several ardent Hillary Clinton supporters here have shrugged off her perpetuating lie (or misspeak) about Bosnia as really no big deal. That may or may not be the case. I don't really care about her fictitious sniper fire or Obama's officious minister.

    What is of real consequence here is Hillary Clinton's recklessness. She knowingly told this story over and over and over again....fully aware that the media (and two celebrities) had been along for that now-famous tarmac walk. In the Internet and Information Age, it's mind boggling that someone with her intelligence could possess such reckless disregard for the truth and common sense. Instead, she blundered along thinking none of the media witnesses would replay video footage affirming that she and her daughter were NOT under sniper fire....or anything remotely like that.

    Does anyone believe that the Secret Service would have allowed the First Lady and First Daughter to get off the plane (much less land) if the area wasn't secure? Apparently, Hillary doesn't credit the media or the American Public for knowing better.

    March 26, 2008 at 1:39 pm |
  25. Chris J.

    Baggage, baggage and more baggage; that is what the Clintons bring to the table. In no other nation on Earth is Obama's story even possible....well in no other nation on Earth could a pair like the Clintons lead us to so much disgrace and then somehow convince us to give them the same power to abuse again.



    OBAMA 08

    March 26, 2008 at 1:39 pm |
  26. Debbie - Philly

    I am a die-hard Hillary supporter who would vote for McCain instead of Obama, but even I can admit that she lied. There really is no other way to look at what she said. However, that does not mean I am not sick and tired of Carl Bernstein and his obsession with Hillary. It's reached such a point now that I simply turn the TV when I see him. As far as character, all of them have flaws. It is part of what makes us human. They are trying to become the most powerful person in our nation. Do you honestly believe they are not all liers?

    March 26, 2008 at 1:38 pm |
  27. Burt

    HiIllary did not lie about not knowing an Un-Patriotic Pastor; Hillary did not lie about Rezko; Hillary is a patriot and she shall win the nomination and the Presdiency. Don't confuse mis-speaking because of her exgaustion with a 20year old Pastor lie! All of you who are commenting negatively about her should be ashamed of yourselves. It seems that you prefer empty rhetoric to hard work. Dream on then, DREAM ON!

    March 26, 2008 at 1:38 pm |
  28. prabha

    I have not come across any person but Carl Bernstein who hates Hillary so much. Every time, even when other people are discussing different subjects, he brings up Hillary's topic and tries to put her down always. I usually do not write like this , but this is unthinkable. I am surprised to see a christain to hate other person so much. I hope God will do the justice.

    March 26, 2008 at 1:38 pm |
  29. caligirl

    interesting piece. the jury will return a negative verdict on clinton's campaign precisely because that's what she has so vigorously sown: a sea of relentless, vindictive, undermining, underestimating (the amerian voters), dismissive (blacks and latinos) negativity. there really is no other verdict that can be reached at this point. why on EARTH anyone who is paying attention would be willing to support her candidacy is beyond my comprehension. her behaviour and that of her surrogates serves as a special highlight of what americans so desperately need to move away from right now. we need to be able to respect our leadership, trust our leadership. we need to be able to held our collective heads high. we could NEVER do that with this particular "woman in charge". it's time for a change.

    March 26, 2008 at 1:38 pm |
  30. greg

    This is for Allxdreamer.
    I just read your comment's on hill the truth does not matter, And all that the other side has been hoping for is coming true please vote for Mcain or not at all.And like i have said let's go Hillery and Bill your plan to destory the democratic party is right on so keep it up.

    And by the way i"am a child of liberal uionist who saw the light and realize that it is the democrats that hold you down and take away your money . SO HILLERY AND BILL LET THE DESTORING BEGAIN.

    March 26, 2008 at 1:38 pm |
  31. Emmanuel

    Hillary said if it were her, Rev Wright would not be her pastor. I thought Rev Wright is Obama's former pastor. Those the word former means he is no longer his pastor? I think we deserve the truth at all times and not distractions based on another persons co,,ents. Rev Wright is not running for president. Hillary Clinton and Barak Obama are. My vote will be for the one who is honest and truthful to us. Right now, that means Obama.

    March 26, 2008 at 1:38 pm |
  32. VINNY

    stop posting continuously constant negative articles about her and nice ones about that guy- hes clearly a bigger liar and more of a politician. i will teach you a lesson if this trend continues. understand?

    March 26, 2008 at 1:38 pm |
  33. william lin

    Must suck to be a politician. Not only does the media pick through every sentence that you said. They even pick through every sentence of what your supports say. Nobody on earth can claim a clean slate if you do that.

    I think the media is responsible for going overboard with this for all the candidates, I know sensationalism sells papers but you have to give a balanced view of things.

    March 26, 2008 at 1:37 pm |
  34. R. Campbell

    Why haven't we heard much about the story of Clinton's former pastor Rev. William Procanick being sentenced to prison last Friday for sexually assaulting a 7 year-old girl? Again and again we are hearing that Obama is responsible for the actions of his pastor, but no media station is holding Clinton to that same standard. Why is that?

    March 26, 2008 at 1:37 pm |
  35. Chris , Ga

    If you read some of the comments that are left on here. You see it is alright to lie. That is the problem. The leaders we elect think it is ok to lie. As long as it fits in their plan. The Clintons have lied for years an got away with it. . The congress and senate leaders have lied to us for years. Both parties lie. The main question is why we put up with it. We should make the government tell the truth. An if caught in a lie. They should be fired at that moment. Not when there term is over. No, this is not a perfect world. But we should get tired of elected people lying. Lets see, in the past 50 years it has cost us 2 wars we should have not got into. The rise in taxes, the government going farther in debt. People expecting the government bailing them out of problems they caused themself. The lost of some of our freedoms. Interfering into other nations internal problems.

    We do not put up with our children lying to us. So lets put a stop of saying it does not matter when someone lied. It has no effect on us. Well it does. So Hillary lie is just as bad as your child lying to you.

    So lets start telling the government that we are not going to stand for the lies anymore, no matter how little they are. An a white lie or half truth is a lie.

    March 26, 2008 at 1:37 pm |
  36. Rick

    "Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive". I'm afraid her insatiable hunger for the presidency and her ruthless ambition have done Hillary in this time around. Good intentions, even good policies, are not enough. America needs honesty and character for a change in the White House and only Barack Obama fits that bill. The only real question now is whether Hillary is prepared to bring down the whole party to set herself up for another try 1n 2012. Let's hope not.

    March 26, 2008 at 1:37 pm |
  37. Tricia in NYC

    HOW do some of these so-called comments get posted? They are supposed to related to the article right?

    March 26, 2008 at 1:37 pm |
  38. Mistruth = Lie

    You think she's lying now? Just wait until you hear the lies she'll spill when under oath as a defendant in the Paul vs Clinton case regarding inconsistencies in her 2000 Senate campaign funding.

    March 26, 2008 at 1:37 pm |
  39. hello

    This all media people became Rich and Republican after they got this bi tax break from Bush.
    they don't want democrat to win white house.

    March 26, 2008 at 1:36 pm |
  40. Johny

    We dont need a lier as a candidante let alone as president!!!
    Let Obama speak z speech
    He is the one who can stand and express z US av Amerika

    Obama 08

    March 26, 2008 at 1:36 pm |
  41. Debbie

    I keep reading posts that Obama lied about being at the sermon. Is there video that I haven't seen, like the video of Hillary strolling the tarmac in Bosnia?

    March 26, 2008 at 1:36 pm |
  42. Demi T.

    Thank you for this thoughtful piece. I am sure a President Obama would make some mistakes, but I am equally sure he will elevate our country from lies and this power-hungry desperateness to win at all costs. I was not only disgusted with the Bosnia "embellishment" but how Hillary attacked Wright to try to defray the bad press... This kind of politics brings all of us down.

    Mostly, I just want this primary over so we can move on...

    March 26, 2008 at 1:36 pm |
  43. JT

    This all speaks to character. There are numerous accounts of both Clintons character issues. I for one am not ready to go down that path with them again. There are no depths too low for them to go to win. It also amazes me how people want to disregard blatant lies (NAFTA, Bosnia, Whitewater) in forming an opinion on who they want to be President. Are these qualities you want in the person serving in the highest office of the United States? Maybe none of the candidates are without flaws, but I find it very difficult to support dishonesty.

    March 26, 2008 at 1:36 pm |
  44. Ron

    I am fed up with lies from the current Republican administration, the way the war has been handled and the way the economy has been handled. I've always believed it's not just the President in office, but the administration behind the President that makes the decisions. The failed policies of the Republican Bush administration are the reasons we are where we are today. One year ago, I said there is no way a Republican will be elected as the next President of this great nation. Today, after hearing the news comments and reading all the negative comments being thrown around for undecided voters to read and hear, I say there is no way a Democrate will be elected as the next President. Republicans are jubiant over the negative comments against Hillary and Barack because it insures we can look forward to four more years of the same failed policies from another Republican administration.

    March 26, 2008 at 1:36 pm |
  45. John Frattali

    To Cindy, it does matter, if she lies about this what else is she going to lie about. Can't trust her.

    John, Saugus CA

    March 26, 2008 at 1:36 pm |
  46. Victoria

    Wow. Hillary a liar. Who'da thunk it? Everyone recalls her stellar handling of the young 20-something-year-old intern who was being shamefully used by her husband.

    Let's see. Her first response: "A vast right-wing conspiracy." Then she and her hubby tried publicly vilified this young girl, calling her a "husband-stalker" and eluding to her being "mentally unbalanced."

    Afterward, when we all found out that it was the hubby who had lied, do you think Mrs. Clinton had the character and temerity to state that her husband's use of such a young, misguided girl spoke volumes about the role of "power" in sexual harassment in the work place?

    Nah. She just skulked away – comfortable in the knowledge that again her cheating and lying husband had admitted his tawdry sick relationship to the American public after nearly 1.5 years of investigations, hearings, etc.

    And now – when an MSNBC journalist hints that maybe her campaign is "using" her own daughter in the manner that a pimp does a whore – she yells, stamps her feet and demands the man be fired.

    Where was that indignation when her husband led this country down a disgusting path – wasting gobs of taxpayers' money – merely because he would not and could not admit the truth. Oh. Guess she, being someone of a similar nature, just understands.

    Where is this woman's character?

    March 26, 2008 at 1:36 pm |
  47. matt

    What's funny is all of the rationalizing that is going on between these two peoples' supporters. They are both completely incapable of doing the job required of the President. On one hand you have a man with TWO YEARS experience in politics who claims he wants change in Washington. Then he aligns himself with Ted Kennedy. How is this going to bring about change? I am less concerned with his pastors remarks than his own use of the term typical white person in reference to his own grandmother. His past has been a muddled mess of half answered questions in the first place. The red flags are there; people just need to take off the blinders.

    As for Hillary, she has literally no true experience in politics at all. Being married to the President doesn't mean you are capable of the job. If I were married to a surgeon I seriously doubt I would be a great candidate to perform an operation on someone. She has not been forthright about anything she was ever questioned on. Whitewater was a reality. Her husband was IMPEACHED for his lies under oath. Futhermore, how anyone can stomach her bitter attacking personality is beyond amazing. She has fabricated more stories about everthing in her life than any other public figure i've ever seen. P.S. Hillary was in favor of both the war in Iraq and in N.A.F.T.A. then lied about her support of both.

    March 26, 2008 at 1:36 pm |
  48. Donna R.

    It is time that the American people have all the information we can on Senator Obama. We know to little of this man to allow him to represent us in the highest office that this country has, without finding out all the facts. When the Reverend Wright issue came to light, I thought that we were finally going to learn what this man is really about. And yet as soon as he gave a speech on race the media put the issue on the shelf, and nothing more was learned as to how this man really feels about this country and the people in it. There are strong questions to his trust worthiness, after first telling the American public that he was not there on the “days” that the things about Rev. Wright were said in the media And yet in his speech he admitted that he had been in the church on other times when the pastor would say such controversial things. Speech’s are a gathering of words that bring a story together, any claim could be made. We need to know why he stayed with a church that has such strong feelings toward the white American people, and if he truly feels as the church has been teaching. His statement a couple days after the speech, to justify his statement about his grandmother, about his grandmother being a “typical white person” gives us some views into Senator Obama’s thinking of this country. I find it fascinating how the media bombards Hillary Clinton, when she misspoke about her trip to Bosnia. I could see doing this if she had lied about even going there. But to make such a big deal about how she remembered something that happened over 10 years ago, is petty. She was in Bosnia when it was dangerous, she was surrounded by troops in one of the clips CNN has shown. We need to know the facts that would personally affect us when one of these candidates enter the White House. Their views on this country will affect how they interact with us and with other countries.

    March 26, 2008 at 1:36 pm |
  49. Kurtis

    They call her a liar. And what can they point to. Nothing but a mistake she made about her visit to Bosnia. A place that WAS a war zone at the time, a visit the DID require her to wear a bullet proof vest. So bullets didn't zoom in over her head. I never said they did.

    What else? They didn't release some Whitewater documents? Give it a rest already. Ken Starr investigated that matter to death, and all he came up with is the President lied about sex. If there was a document release problem, he should have charged Hillary with obstruction. But he didn't. Why? Because she did nothing wrong, and hid nothing.

    GOOD GOD, IS THIS ALL YOU HAVE??? Instead of quoting from a reporters book (which has no evidence to support it), and reinforcing the lies and innuendo republicans have thrown out there over the years (also with no evidence), why don't you give it a rest already? Enlightened voters see through the anti-Hillary rhetoric from the press and her opponents as exactly what it is: much ado about nothing.

    March 26, 2008 at 1:36 pm |
  50. Cee

    If she cannot be honest or entirely straightforward about the small things, how can we expect her to be candid as President? I am not decided – I may vote McCain or Obama, but my primary goal is to vote for the most honest, straightforward candidate.

    March 26, 2008 at 1:36 pm |
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