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March 20th, 2008
02:55 PM ET

Gergen: How Hillary grabs the nomination

Hillary Clinton's detour yesterday to Michigan reflects a clear understanding within her campaign that much could hinge upon what happens there in coming hours. If the Democratic state legislature leaves for a two-week vacation this afternoon without resolving to hold a make-up primary, her chances of wresting the nomination from Barack Obama could diminish sharply.

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Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Hillary Clinton holds a 'Solutions for America' event in Detroit, Michigan. Clinton came to Detroit to attempt to generate support for a Michigan democratic primary do-over.

It has been apparent for some time that Clinton's best strategy – perhaps her only strategy – is to win lop-sidedly in Pennsylvania, then rack up a string of late victories in North Carolina, Indiana, West Virginia, and Kentucky so that she could argue that while still behind in pledged delegates, she had won the second half of the season and the two candidates were basically tied.

She could then plausibly look to re-dos in Florida and Michigan as an "overtime" and with victories there (almost certain in Florida, likely in Michigan), she would be in a reasonable position to persuade superdelegates (and the party) that she is more electable.

But take Florida and Michigan off the table and the Clinton game plan becomes much more difficult.

Even if she were to win all of the states above, the lack of new votes in Florida and Michigan would mean the campaign would end with Obama still ahead in delegates, states, and total votes.

For Obama supporters, it would then seem very unfair for Democratic bigwigs to strip him of the crown.  Indeed, in light of the controversy over Reverend Wright, as Chuck Todd of NBC argued yesterday, African-Americans might read such a move as Democrats trying to protect their white vote – an interpretation that could shatter the party.

That's why Clinton is trying so hard to keep prospects alive in Michigan – and even Florida. And why she is stepping up pressure on Obama by blaming him if they don't take place. Efforts to blame him over the Florida fiasco seem entirely misplaced: The opprobrium belongs to Charlie Crist and the Republican legislature and remember, too, that both Clinton and Obama supporters in Congress and the state legislature didn't like the re-do plan. In Michigan, it was a Democratic governor who supports Clinton who signed on to the early primary and helped to create this mess. Clinton can hardly claim clean hands here, either.

This is getting down in the weeds, but if you are a political junkie, bear with me for a moment. Even though her own supporters helped to create the Michigan mess, Clinton does have a good argument that Obama partisans are dragging their feet on a re-do there. But the Obama people have a legitimate rebuttal that people who voted for the GOP candidates earlier this year should not be banned from voting in a re-do in Michigan – that is only fair. If the Clinton folks would drop the ban, Obama folks should support the re-do – or face appropriate fire for standing in the way.

If at the end of the day, the re-dos disappear in Michigan and Florida, Clinton still has one hope – and not a very appealing one for anybody: That because of the Reverend Wright affair, the bottom completely drops out for Obama and he loses big not only in places like Pennsylvania and Indiana but also in North Carolina, where he has been ahead.  That is a scenario that would bring shutters to much of the country that has a more elevated view of what America is all about.

Personally, I just don't think it will happen that way but there are others who disagree with me. We shall see. We are learning a lot in this campaign not only about the candidates but about ourselves. 

– David Gergen, CNN Senior Political Analyst

Program note: Watch David Gergen share his analysis with Anderson Cooper on tonight's 360° at 10p ET


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  1. Ted in Chicago

    David

    Outstanding and balanced

    That is why as I understand you have worked in various capacities for both Dems and Reps – conservatives and liberals -

    Your moderate common sense voice is a great one

    David for President??

    March 20, 2008 at 6:07 pm |
  2. Ted

    How do you count pouplar vote or deligate with out FL & MI.

    March 20, 2008 at 6:07 pm |
  3. Cheryl Leake

    Get a grip. Religous indoctrination is real in every church. Anyone who attends and thinks that they were immune to the sermon of the day is sadly mistaken. This is a real issue. You can't claim to be a product of your ancestry and then disavow that you were marked by it adversely or not, when it is plastered in the media.

    And that fact alone proves Hillary's point that simply being First Lady had to make her more able to run with the BIG DOGS. She has seen the results of every decision that was made by Pres. Clinton and knows the ins and outs of the players as well as McCain.

    Change is about how to do it not just wanting it. Everyone should remember the many times a congress would not get behind Pres. Clinton because it was a republican congress. Do we want a situation where OBAMA has ticked off everyone he needs to work with?

    Let's hope the superdelegates get it right pledges or not.

    March 20, 2008 at 6:06 pm |
  4. ProJ

    This election has truly made the colors of so called Americans shine through. I have read and seen so much of the "undercover" rascism find life through blogs and other media outlets and yet the question still remains.... Is America ready for a new wave of politics? Quite frankly, America is not because America won't confront the root of it's culture. We won't judge our ownselves, but yet we are so arrogant and haughty that we judge others by rules we fail to live by. America is failing and in more ways than one. Yet, we want to categorize somebody's remarks as racist when I have seen more bigots fly free on all the major stations everyday of the week with no refrain. Interesting but not new.

    March 20, 2008 at 6:04 pm |
  5. DB in Texas

    If we are going to hold candidates accountable for who they associate with I say we hold Hillary accountable for standing by a lying, philandering husband who dragged our country through our most embarrassing times.

    We don't need the Clintons and their sense of entitlement back in the WH. IMHO

    March 20, 2008 at 6:04 pm |
  6. Steve

    The party obviously has to make accommodation for delegates from Mich. and Florida. It is a bedrock principle that the millions of votes in those two states be counted. How they are counted is the real debate here.

    In my humble opinion (no name calling), Howard Dean is out of touch with the factors which will help the Demos win in November. The party itself has to reach a solution that enfranchises those voters. Period.

    David, I think there are so many pitfalls for the Demos at this point that it will be a miracle if the party doesn't self-destruct. What will Obama supporters do if he is not nominated? Is that a reason to just hand the nomination to him on a platter even though he looks like a loser in Penn., as well as falling in the national poll just released (that trend needs to be watched of course), and was soundly defeated in every state, but Texas (where it was close) and Ill., that the party needs to carry to win in November?

    Leave it to the Demos (my party) to screw up what should be a cakewalk to the presidency this cycle.

    March 20, 2008 at 6:03 pm |
  7. Sharon

    Hey Joe,

    Will you – and everyone else who keeps assuming that women are too stupid to think to vote for someone based on their qualifications rather than their sex, and that blacks are too stupid to vote for someone based on their qualifications rather than their color – stop with this narrow mindedness. PLEASE give us all some credit for intelligence.

    March 20, 2008 at 6:03 pm |
  8. afra

    it is obvious that reality and therefore thruth is in the eye of the beholder. It is also true that the American people have a problem with people who speak the truth or else it would not be a nation of hypocrits.The whole world knows the Clintons lie every time they open their mouths but it sounds good to some Americans who cant see further than their own nose. And there are many. Everytime they have a chance to have someone smart and decent lead and guide them they choose the criminals. Like last time and the time before......it looks like those folks have no clue of what is happening and when the moment of truth hits them in the face they blame: the blacks, the whites, the yellows , the Muslims, etc etc etc.....,why dont you start educating yourselves and clean up your backyards first!

    March 20, 2008 at 6:02 pm |
  9. Angela, Miami , FL

    Hillary will not grab the nomination, she will earn it if she is treated fairly.

    But since she is not, and my vote doesn't count in FL, we and she will be left to dry.

    Cheer up McCain, I will vote for you if Obama is the nominee.

    March 20, 2008 at 6:02 pm |
  10. Sean

    also...
    to add to mr. sam's comments from earlier.
    why arent you defending Hillary the same way?
    she is taking heat for the geraldine ferraro fiasco.
    ALSO...Rev. Wright is still Obama's pastor. he is just no longer working on the campaign.
    Gee, people are such hyprocrites.

    March 20, 2008 at 6:01 pm |
  11. Joy

    Hillary Clinton believes that the end justifies the means. She apparently has no values, she just wants to win by any means necessary. I think this is a strong indication of the kind of president she would be, but if the voters are paying attention, I don't think we'll have to worry about that.
    The DNC had a legal right to set the rules for primaries. The courts have refused to insert themselves in such matters. For the future, party leaders in each state have a choice. They can either follow the rules or accept the consequences of their actions. In this case, the consequences were spelled out ahead of time. IfFlorida and Michigan voters have been disenfranchised, then they have only their respective party leadership to blame. As I see it, the only possible compromise would be to seat the delegates and split them right down the middle or possibly seat them in the same proportion of delegates already pledged to each candidate.

    March 20, 2008 at 6:01 pm |
  12. Bill in Georgia

    Shutters or shudders?

    If Clinton is chosen as the nominee despite Obama's pledged delegate lead (which he will have even if MI and FL are rerun), then the black base - which typically has voted 90% for the Dem. nominee in the general election - will not support Clinton. Plain and simple, that will doom her in every swing state and will put states like California into play. It could be a McCain landslide.

    If Obama is the nominee, he might have the skills and acumen to rebuid bridges to enough white and female voters, esp. if he chooses a white woman for VP, to be competitive in the fall.

    For those who think the Obama "scandals" are too big, just imagine if the Republican machine has the chance to go after the Clintons again.

    March 20, 2008 at 6:01 pm |
  13. Ted

    Obama might win the nomination obviously he have the lead however excluding Florida and Michigan Vote will come back to bite him on the general election.
    For Obama I would say take your chances and have Michigan and Florida to revote.

    March 20, 2008 at 6:00 pm |
  14. WILLIS

    WE HAVE NO STANDARDS IN THE COUNTRY ANY MORE - WE DON'T HOLD LOCAL POLTICIANS ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR MISTAKES AND ARE SO QUICK TO POINT THE FINGER AT OTHER PEOPLE!

    THE PROBLEM IS NOT WITH THE DNC, OR OBAMA - THE PROBLEM IS WITH FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN LOCAL POLITICANS AND CLINTON. HILLARY KEEPS STIRRING THIS POT BECAUSE SHE WANTS THE DELEGATES.

    FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN DID NOT PLAY BY THE RULES AND NOW WANT THE RULES CHANGED TO ACCOMMODATE THEM!

    NO WAY! IT IS WHAT IT IS - SEE YOU IN FOUR YEARS!

    March 20, 2008 at 6:00 pm |
  15. Bob

    Watching this from afar, this is VERY scary. The Republicans can see a way to destroy the Democratic Party, at the same time as their surrogates foment resentment and hatred. At the same time the American economy is sinking like a stone.n
    No wonder Barack said "not this time".

    March 20, 2008 at 6:00 pm |
  16. Oscar Collins

    David: I am very worried about what will happen if Obama wins the delegate count, popular vote, and most states, and then the supers come in and hand the nomination to Clinton. I think there is a potential for riots especially seeing as we are in a recession and this primary has ignited anger between the candidates supporters.

    The media should also take some of the blame... the reporters are really lazy these days. You have just played the Wright clips over and over and over and over. Not one of the reporters bothered to research the whole sermons to determine what was said before and after. What great sermons he has made, or even interviewed the man. You have also allowed some really racial remarks get printed on the blogs that made me feel ill when I read them. Mark my words... the democratic party will take years to recover. And Hilary may get the nomination but her career will be over. She will be despised for her dirty tactics.

    March 20, 2008 at 5:59 pm |
  17. Jan, Las Vegas, NV

    And just what "elevated view" over other Americans do you snobs think you have exactly. Geez! How condescending. Looks like you've been hanging around Obama too much, but of course we all knew you were so it's no surprise he's rubbed off on you.

    March 20, 2008 at 5:59 pm |
  18. Sean

    It would cripple the Dems if they don't hold a redo. They will have a major say in who picks the Dem. nominee. I think whoever is the Dem. nominee will be Pres. (which is good) I would PREFER Hillary because Obama is liar, a hypocrite, and a big cheat. Hillary is all of those things. But at least she is willing to admit her shortcomings. According to the senator from Illinois-he, himself, is infallible and free from error. Ha. Biggest joke EVER

    March 20, 2008 at 5:59 pm |
  19. Maria

    Based on what I've heard, the fact the Florida and Michigan will not have a re-vote, does NOT mean that their delegates are not going to be seated in some agreed upon distribution.

    There's no disenfranchising here if those delegates still get seated, only not by a totally new re-vote. It is really the leaders who broke the rules who risked disenfranchising their own constituents.

    As far as who should be the nominee, if this isn't decided on the basis of who has the most delegates in the end, there will be no basis or rule to stand by if something similar were to occur in the future.

    March 20, 2008 at 5:59 pm |
  20. rbrannan

    SAM
    Obama keeps referring to Pastor Wright as his 'former' Pastor but Pastor Wright only officially retires/becomes the 'former' pastor of Trinity Church at the end of this month. Obama is being politically strategic, like everything else he does, by referring to Pastor Wright with the past tense word, 'former', as a way of creating distance from him in the public eye.

    March 20, 2008 at 5:58 pm |
  21. Chris

    What's really disturbing is Hillary's willingness to do anything to win. It says a lot about her character and how she'll govern. I don't think I want someone this pathologically tied up in their own success running the country.

    March 20, 2008 at 5:58 pm |
  22. Paul Sullivan

    As a long time supporter of your rationale and reason, I must depart from you on this issue. It is enextricably clear that If Hillary were Obama and Obama were Hillary, this would not even be an argument. The only reason that the news media even considers anyone second in popular, delegate and number of States is perhaps more rooted in America's past racial discretions than sound sixth-grade mathematics, even children can count. Hillary Clinton is holding out towards a near impossible mathematical certainty, which is bizaar considering how many intelligent people she has on her staff. She has chosen to stay on this course of "Burn The Capital" until there will be nothing left but for the Republicans this November. It is CLEAR to all of us Hillary, that before you let Obama get the presidency you will hand it over to a member of an opposing party. This is a total lack of Grace and Nobility.

    March 20, 2008 at 5:57 pm |
  23. dani

    David,

    I remember when you worked for Bill Clinton. But in your CNN analysis, you favor Barack. When you're teaching over at Harvard's Kennedy's School of Govt, please keep it neutral.

    The problem with the Wright remarks is that Barack sought out that church and stayed with that church, knowing the hate rhetoric. He did so for political purposes to make a name for himself in the community and in the Ill. state legislator.

    But what is even more disturbing than not leaving (20 years!), is we see how this has influenced his wife Michelle who is extremely controversial (more so than Hillary who was hated by the Right Wing Majority because she was a career woman from an Ivy League school) and because of Michelle's past remarks.

    On a last note, bringing his children into this hateful environment and his remarks about a loving white grandmother to make his comparison, especially when she was making a stereotypical comment and then saying he "cringed", but he was so unemotional about what he heard from Wright is to me, very disturbing. He is unfit for the office of the President of the United States.

    March 20, 2008 at 5:57 pm |
  24. lets move on

    Can we all just get along please. Hillary will do ANYTHING to win it's a different in a real fight, and playing dirty that called CHEATING!!! I don't agree with alot of things my pastor says, but Im not about to leave because I love everybody at my church not just the pastor but everybody in there they are considered my family.

    Obama is wanting to unite the country look at all the young white, black, and hispanic voters that are turning out in BIG numbers please this is going to be the best President ever and I do believe he will change the country, and bring a very sucessful Dems party more stronger.

    March 20, 2008 at 5:56 pm |
  25. Lynda from Texas

    David, Hillary will do anything to win, including to stooping to any action she does to get two states who chose to not abide by the rules of the DNC votes counted, especially Michigan where Obama was not even on the ticket. Her actions are not to get the Michigan and Florida voters their rights – she would not do it this if she were ahead – but to better her chances to steal the nomination from Mr. Obama.

    Above and beyond that, the Wright affair – while the Reverend's words are deplorable – do not change the man who is Barack Obama – Obama did not and never has stated or held those beliefs, so stop the guilt by association. If you do choose to go by guilt by association – Hillary has a lot of guilt gained through her association with Bill Clinton and his many fiascos and less than honest political and business dealings.

    March 20, 2008 at 5:56 pm |
  26. Jennifer

    It will be a huge backward step if Clinton grabs or steals the nomination. Didn't the Clinton campaign play the race card just before the South Carolina primaries? Call me a cynic, but I don't think it is mere coincidence that the furore that has erupted over Wright's sermon (preached some time ago) is headline news now, as Clinton campaigns in Pennsylvania.
    I am a 61 year old white female who no longer supports Clinton, and whose respect and admiration for Obama increases daily.

    March 20, 2008 at 5:55 pm |
  27. Sabina

    We can "re-do" Michigan and Florida??

    If we could....then can we "re-do" the last 7+ years?

    Rules are the rules and you knew about them and signed off on them Hillary!!

    March 20, 2008 at 5:55 pm |
  28. Jake Townsen

    If people understood why moving to the beginning of a primary season is so valuable then maybe they would realize that it was Hillary's plan to influence the election early with easy wins for name recognition before anybody had a chance to get to know Obama. Even though the delegates would not count, they probably believed the wins would have a pyschological effect on the race. When Obama rolled right through the legitimate contests they felt they could move it again to the end (closer to where they were) and make the final call. Who gives these guys the right to play games with the rules, while every other state abides by them. If we let them do it, in four years, the entire electorate is going to try and be at the beginning and the end! What kind of precedent are we setting here. It seems like the Gov of FL is trying to get Hillary elected any way he can. And then run with McCain as VP. Go figure...

    March 20, 2008 at 5:55 pm |
  29. Sharon

    If Hillary steals the nomination without having the pledged delegates or the popular vote and you were a Obama supporter would you then vote for her in the general election. I don't think so. I rather see McCain as president that a thief.

    March 20, 2008 at 5:55 pm |
  30. Micheal

    Frankly, am chocked how we can judge the actions of one man onto another. The comments that Rev Wright made where outrageous and as a white American male I was offended. However, I don`t blame Obama for it.
    For me it all boils down to, weather we want the same old tried politics, with the same old promises and same old tactics. Destroying instead of building, dividing instead of uniting, or do we want something different.

    I for one will not cast my vote to have more of what we already have today. An economy that is on the brink of recession, a war that has taken over 5000 American Lives and cost us nearly a trillion dollars.
    The truth of the matter is when that phone rings, I can`t bear to have Monica Lewinsky at the end of it. We have had a Clinton, we have had a Bush, let someone else have a try.

    Micheal, London Uk

    March 20, 2008 at 5:54 pm |
  31. FRANCIS O

    It is quite interesting to see a lot of Americans rivel in the same old path of scandal and pull him down tactics when dealing with their politicians. One would think that with the economic and other pertinent issues confronting the country, the average citizen will learn to focus more on these issues that affect their lives and that of the future generation.

    The pains inflicted by the present administration on the majority of Americans cannot be over-emphasised and despite the fact that the Bush administration had pursued the wrong path from the onset, Americans still opted to vote for him to continue in office for another four years. They will rather reject John Kerry because the Republican party succeeded in drumming it into their heads that he was a flip-flop and the effects of that error is being felt by most Americans today.

    There is no perfect candidate out there and Americans should learn to focus on using what they have at a given time to get the best that the country can have....this is how the country attained its lofty status before now. This country needs a change that the world can believe in, a change that can get people all over the world to respect and love America like they used to. In my opinion, Obama happens to be the only candidate who can provide this at the moment. If America lose this opportunity only because his pastor goofed, then it is safe to conclude that the time has come for the super power status to move elsewhere.

    March 20, 2008 at 5:52 pm |
  32. Lorna

    I am a Clinton supporter who would love to see my candidate win but, I recognize that a seating of the delegates as they stand in both Michigan and Florida would be unfair and wrong. The states KNEW and had agreed upon the rules for this primary year. I really wish Hillary would stop hounding the DNC, it is not their fault. She ought to start hounding Granholm (G-MI) and Crist (G-MI) for allowing this catastrophe to happen to begin with. The blame and focus is being placed upon the wrong people. I don't want to see my candidate win unfairly just for the "W," I want to see her win with honor and fairness. Friends, thats the American way.

    March 20, 2008 at 5:52 pm |
  33. JB

    Stupidty does not become the American people. WE elect the president. 'We the people' have the power. Someone leading in ALL the categories should be the nominee. If the Dems have a brokered convention, they will end up with a consensus candidate like George McGovern and we all know what will happen there. If Obama leads after PA, Hillary needs to drop out and support him. There is no reason to drag it out. Save the money for the General Election. McCain can be defeated if the Dems are united. There is a chance to make history and it should not be stunted or marginalized.

    March 20, 2008 at 5:50 pm |
  34. Bry

    you make me sick..Jen in Cal....just because Obama is friends with someone doesnt mean that he has to agree with them...i'am sure you got friends that said something that you didnt like...did you stop being friends with them doubtful.....Obama is a way better choice for President...and if you deny that because of his Pastor..then i really feel sorry for you...

    March 20, 2008 at 5:49 pm |
  35. rbrannan

    If everyone thinks Hillary is being petty about Michigan and Florida needing a do-over so these 2 states (which agreed do favor her) votes and delegates can count, then let's even out the supposed pettiness and take out of the equation the 2 largest states that Obama has won and not let them count for anything. Let's see how petty Obama and his supporters find that. With Michigan/Florida removed from the equation, AND Obama's wins in his 2 biggest states (what Illinois and Wisconsin?)out of the equatiion, what would be the Clinton/Obama's status right now regarding number of votes/delegates. Any mathematician researchers out there?

    March 20, 2008 at 5:49 pm |
  36. Joy

    As a Canadian who has been watching most of the US news channel and listening to their radio programs, i find David Gergen as one of the most objective American on air. I dont care whether it is Obama or Clinton that becomes the nominee but i think all rational American should think about the last part of Obama's message and also the last part of David's message "We are learning a lot in this campaign not only about the candidates but about ourselves"

    This is a generational opportunity for Americans to fundamentally shift the discourse about race relation. During the Iraq war the French refer to the US as a bully without a brain. Can American rise up and discuss the issue of race at an intellectual level or do they lack capacity for such level of intelligence.
    Goodluck America.

    March 20, 2008 at 5:49 pm |
  37. Roger

    NEWSFLASH FOLKS!! Regardless of which candidate you want to win the nomination, if Florida and Michigan are not seated in the convention, then John McCain easily wins the general election. This year really has proven how stupid democrats can be. I am beginning to believe the republican pundits when they say the DNC is a dysfucntional party!!! As a poster previously stated, we don't seat Florida and Michigan we play right in to the Republicans hands.

    March 20, 2008 at 5:48 pm |
  38. John

    It is a shame that Obama basically doesn't care about the voters. Obama preveneted the re-vote of MI. If he didn't like Hillary's plan he could have offered another plan but no, he turn the page on MI. He is doing because he know MI votes could hurt him. In the process he is destoring the democratic party. Obama needs to step down.

    March 20, 2008 at 5:48 pm |
  39. RonM

    It's funny how the focus of racial overtones is now all over Obama. Didn't Hillary have an advisor that recently made racist comments? Yes she did.
    America, we need to relize that Obama and Hillary did not say these remarks, they came from someone else in their camps and they were both denounced by the candidates. So basically we as Americans need to drop the racial debate.

    March 20, 2008 at 5:47 pm |
  40. Fyd

    What a bad loser Hillary is! She didn't care for Michigan voters a couple of months ago and now, she is making noise about this Florida-Michigan issue. How can we trust Hillary who flipflops all the time on issues and rules. This is about our future?

    Win or lose with dignity, Hillary!

    March 20, 2008 at 5:47 pm |
  41. dave

    David,

    I wish Clintons can listen to you. Perhaps they don't belive in math, they rather belive in miracle as Hucklebee? Or, perhaps their campaign staff just can not admit it's over and their career in politics is also over? Clintons should think hard about their legacy and reputation.

    Please, Mr. and Mrs. Clinton, do not let those who sabotaged your campaigns sabotage the chance of democrats.

    March 20, 2008 at 5:47 pm |
  42. Matt

    Obama needs to start acting the same way he preaches. All the votes in this country should count. You can not belong to the "wind party" and play as the wind flows. Rules don't mean anything. After all he argues against all previous rules made by the old establishment. Why is he scared of re-vote. If he looses then he should not become president. Doesn't his action remind us of playing the old politics? Rest assured that if the Florida and Michigan votes don't count, and he wins the primaries, people in other states will make sure he loses in November. I like Obama and his ideas, but don't start acting like Bush. What is it to say that he is not an agent of Republicans and he is not put in to make sure Republicans win in November.

    March 20, 2008 at 5:43 pm |
  43. Suzanne

    It is beyond me how anyone can think the press has been easy on Obama lately. Hillary is getting a free ride, even though she's a power-hungry liar. It will be truly a shame if we let the chance for Obama to be president slip by. He is a brilliant, REAL, and capable leader. GO OBAMA!!

    March 20, 2008 at 5:43 pm |
  44. Fred

    Isn't it interesting that with the release of Hillary's White House information, we learn that both Bill and Hillary were 100% for NAFTA!! Now she wants the American public to believe the exact opposite. Where I come from that is called, "a bald face lie." Do we really want another 4 years of "lying and denying" in Washington??

    March 20, 2008 at 5:43 pm |
  45. Tangerine

    Bel-

    I completely agree with you. Anyone who still thinks the media is in favor of Obama must be both blind and deaf... They have done a 180 so fast, to what I believe to be extreme overcompensation as to not be seen as sexist.

    March 20, 2008 at 5:42 pm |
  46. Alex Hirsch

    Jen in Cali- You are not much different than those "looped quotes of the pastor" . Go on Youtube abd watch Obam's philly speech. I have never heard anything said with more conviction and heart ever in the annlas of our history. This man is the real deal. I was a Hillary supporter and a McCain admirer but they dont come close to OBAMA. God Bless America.

    Alex

    March 20, 2008 at 5:42 pm |
  47. Brian, Ohio

    The news keeps making Obama culprit of this deal not working out.

    However, its Hillary... The fact that she won last time was a fallacy because he wasn't on the ballot, and barack lost to her getting a decent percent with a higher percent undecided. Now in this new election, Hillary's camp does not want to let those people vote again in the revote.

    She is blasting Obama saying he doesn't want voices heard, when in fact he just wants ALL voices heard.

    March 20, 2008 at 5:41 pm |
  48. Shawn

    I find it very difficult to swallow that the clinton campaign is stating that the reason michigan votes wont be counted is the fault of Obama. He has clearly stated that he will go along with the DNC's decision, so why not instead of saying what is Obama afraid of, they should be telling the DNC to make a decision since it was their decision to strip these states of their delegates. It's not Obama's responsibility, and the truth is that after campaigning in these two states the percentages will remain the same. Obama will be in the lead and clinton will need super delegates to name her the nominee, she is the one dragging her feet and ignoring the popular vote, delegate count, and telling America that John McCain is the strongest candidate.

    March 20, 2008 at 5:41 pm |
  49. Nii David

    Wow, they have managed to paint this man Obama so bad that most Americans have forgotten about the real issues facing this country.

    It is only in America that what your pastor says and believes mean a lot more to people than what you yourself say and do. The news media can keep on playing the Reverend Wright's 30-second snippet while patriotic American soldiers die in a foolish war in Iraq. The economy is in a mega mess, the Asians are taking over American technology. Education is spiralling downward. Yet, all that Americans can concern themselves with is the same old racist intolerance that has plagued this country for centuries.

    Obama is the best hope America has now.

    March 20, 2008 at 5:40 pm |
  50. Jacque

    I agree with you friends who predict Hillary will win BIG in the remaining elections. If the press had done their job and reported on Obama's preacher problems several months ago, he never would have made it past Super Tuesday! Democrats would never have elected Barak "Bad Judgement" Obama as our candidate if we new about his 20 year affiliation with Rev. Wright.

    If Obama wins the nomination, I (along with several million other conservative democrats) will vote Republican in the presidential election. Obama will never get elected President of the "United Sates Of America" now that we know what kind of judgement he really has!

    This is NOT about RACE and I resent him PLAYING THE RACE CARD to justify his extreeeeeemly bad judgement!

    March 20, 2008 at 5:39 pm |
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