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January 15th, 2014
12:08 AM ET

Hostin: 'No one wants to talk about that baby'

Marlise Munoz was declared brain-dead while pregnant with her second child after apparently suffering a blood clot in her lung. Her husband and parents asked the hospital to remove her from life support; they say that’s what she would want. But hospital officials have refused, saying their hands are tied by Texas law. Now the family is asking a judge to intervene. Christiane Amanpour, Dan Savage, Margaret Hoover, and Sunny Hostin discuss the case.

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  1. Joe Sark

    The usual Pro-Choice argument for abortion is that although the fetus is a genetically unique human organism, it is only a POTENTIAL person until it is born. As such it has rights (which are recognized in various states fetacide laws which penalize people that kill fetuses inside pregnant women). But those rights of the fetus are OVERRIDDEN by the rights of the mother, who is a WHOLE person, and not a potential person.

    As Anna S. pointed out, once the mother is dead, she is no longer a person, and thus has no rights. Therefore the only rights left are those of the fetus, who should be assisted in continuing to develop. If one must, we could think of the mother's body as a high tech incubator. It is NOT disrespectful to use her body in this fashion, as the good that is being done (saving a human life) is well worth it.

    While I can believe that the mother stated she did not wish to be kept alive artificially, I cannot for the life of me imagine any mother who, faced with this hard choice, would not want her body used to keep alive the baby that she lovingly wanted, conceived and nourished up to that point.

    January 21, 2014 at 5:46 pm |
    • CorneliusT

      God rendered his decision in November. Just FYI. Women make horrible incubators when they're dead. The baby went without oxygen as long as the mother did.

      January 26, 2014 at 4:42 pm |
    • kybo61

      Sorry, it's NOT a baby until it exits the mother's body and starts screaming. Nope. Until that moment in time it is a FETUS and is not a separate life from the mother. Never has been, never will be. Medical fact.

      February 13, 2014 at 6:40 pm |
  2. Anna Suchecki

    Any person who's life can be would want to be saved. People pray for that everyday. If the mother is a corpse then it is not hurting her to keep this baby alive. Just because it was her wish to be taken off does not mean that this baby should be left to die. People wait for organs, get organs and their families pray that they survive and be saved. Do all the people who lived because they were saved by an organ donation should have been with God too? I don't think so. They are extremely grateful that their life was saved. If it was me carrying my baby I would want him/her to live.

    January 18, 2014 at 4:46 pm |
    • Liz

      Anna, there are many people who do *not* wished to be saved, contrary to whatever you believe. You may, but there are quite a number of individuals with DNR (Do Not Resuscitate) orders or living wills that ask for extraordinary measures, i.e. life support, not be used in the event of an accident. Furthermore, if you read any reports that weren't on pseud-news channels, you would have known that the fetus was developing abnormally. The lower extremities were under-developed, the skull was distended by hydrocephalus, and they believed there was also a heart defect. Just because the mother's body is being kept alive does not mean that an IV and feeding tube are enough to maintain life, especially after the mom was deprived of oxygen after an embolism. The husband reported that his wife's limbs were becoming stiff and he was unable to hold her hand, much like rigor mortis, and that was how he knew she was dead. How sad is it to torment this woman and her family to incubate a child who may live in agony for its entire life? Remember that MERCY is a Christian value as well - and there is no greater mercy than letting someone go when it's time.

      January 27, 2014 at 2:13 am |
  3. Holly Simone

    I wish to comment on the tragic story of Marlise Munoz, and the misguided idea that forcing a dead woman to produce offspring is not just morbid, it's against all of the things so-called Christians believe. LET THE BABY GO HOME WITH ITS MOTHER! If you believe in God then stop arguing about earthly matters and simply let the Lord take care of these two lives. Nature has dictated that it was the time for Marlise's body to fall away. It naturally follows that with her body goes the other life being created. I wish Christians would remember that any infant not brought into this world will STILL be alive, just not here. It's as though everyone who says there is a God really has no belief at all. Pray, and show compassion for those left behind and say good-by . . . Holly Simone

    January 16, 2014 at 10:53 pm |
    • Liz

      I'm glad someone around here has some sense and empathy. I think people have confused the pain of loss with something to be avoided at all costs, which is why there is such conflict about taking this mother off of life support. Babies are precious, but as someone with serious birth defects, I think the anomalies the doctors saw in the scans more than justify letting mother and baby go. Obviously trying to grow a child in a body that is already trying to shut down results in terrible developmental problems, and while it's sad, they should really be allowed to have peace. The baby will be more at comfort with mom in the hereafter than suffering on Earth because we tried to play God.

      January 27, 2014 at 2:18 am |

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