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December 16th, 2013
09:48 PM ET

Does judge's ruling against NSA exonerate Edward Snowden?

A judge ruled today that the NSA program that can collect phone records on each and every call that Americans make is likely unconstitutional. It's a program that was a top secret until Edward Snowden revealed it. Could this mean Snowden now deserves amnesty? Anderson discussed this with investigative journalist Glenn Greenwald and Senior Legal Analyst Jeffrey Toobin.


Filed under: Edward Snowden • Glenn Greenwald • Jeffrey Toobin • NSA
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  1. Abby Gilmore

    I note no one is willing to call Cameron on his missing data equivalent to Nixon's missing minutes of tape.

    Is that because Cameron can exercise more power over the court system than we can? This nation's press greedily consumed and regurgitated horrific lies posed to them by UK tabloid press so same tabloids could republish in the UKwithout legal jeopardy. Essentially, WE reported their slander so they could pursue it themselves. The McCann's horrible mistreatment by the press was a focus of the Leveson Inquiry, and this suggests our press is legally capable of confronting Cameron about this spooky vanishing content so the UK press may also address it. But will we help out Mother if the press can help it? I note the US press dismissed stories revealing the corruption of the UK press and settlements over continuing intrusions into the McCann's lives. We only picked up when they police recently suggested the child had been abducted as the parents had insisted.

    Well, Anderson, will we? My bet is the US press isn't American anymore. Go back to sleep, VanWinkles. We're British, again. You didn't miss anything but an experimental dream.

    Come on, Anderson, give us a go. "Does David Cameron have a Nixonian dilemma? Who squished the content out of his email in Rebekah Brooks' BlackBerry? Can't they tell?" In my opinion, it sounded just like him.

    Basically, I'm sufferig from a misrust of law enforcement, the government and the press. The branches of government seem completely out of balancing whack, too. Do you agree, Anderson? then why not stick your thunb on the scale and give us a Dick Nixon = David Cameron moment? I'd really like to think that was just a rogue, but the last one turned out to be a fabrication of police AND their suspects.

    December 18, 2013 at 11:51 am |
  2. Darrell W

    Toobin is either a Obama supporter and/or an idiot. He says Snowden should have gone to the Inspector General or Congress with his information. That would have gone nowhere. Case in point: Fast and Furious and Benghazi. Over 100 cases have been filed challenging Obama's eligibility and yet not one case has been permitted to go to trial even when it has been proven that he provided the American public with two forged birth certificates and a forged Selective Service registration. To this day we do not know if Obama is eligible to be president. We don't even know who his parents are, when he was born, or where he was born. Get real! And no, I am not a Snowden supporter. I do not know the facts of his case.

    December 18, 2013 at 11:32 am |
  3. Abby Gilmore

    By far, the best Brit entertainment is the Leveson Inquiry. Select the Evidence tab and negotiate the alpha list for your intended target. Then either read their transcripts or note the date and time of day so you may select the hearing tab, then month and the correct date. They roll a lot of blue screen, but you can click through to the good stuff.

    Wanna see four former PMs and the present one inform the court about their relationships with the press? Or how about a former reporter out for some payback? Paul McMullen was enfuego, trying to beat the pecking Mr. Jay to the punch. Jay warned him off incriminating himself several times, but he was hellbent to make plan the daily life of a tabloid fop.

    How about the Lords of Fleet Street bush beating? Think Mr,. Murdoch is a piece of work? Meet Mr. Dacre of the Daily Hate Mail. Even the judge couldn't persuade him to retract his defamation of Hugh Grant. Oh, yeah, there are loads of celebs, too. But Steve Coogan's written testimony is quite eloquent.

    So, when you get tired of waiting for Netflix to deliver your next comedy of manners, stop by Judge Leveson's shady rest and listen to the mockingbirds sing. I just adore Mr. Jay, even if he's gay. Stay away from Thomas!!

    December 18, 2013 at 11:14 am |
  4. Abby Gilmore

    This is what comes of watching too much Brit TV. Blame Masterpiece.

    Poirot and I, we have this thing. The grey cells cannot dismiss oddity. Especially when it fits a pattern! One ringy dingy...two ringing dingies! I think the UK is about to greet their Nixonian moment. Why don't we sock it to them? We carried all that slanderous illegal McCann "news" for them to republish legally. Let's return the favor.

    December 18, 2013 at 10:48 am |
  5. Abby Gilmore

    Yes, I'm sayng the UK Hacking Scandal and this major global hack are connected.

    The UK Terror Unit concluded they would sit on evidence of 4000 hacking victims rather than pursue them through the system because to do so would reveal to terrorists their interworkings with the numerous telephony companies which at that time had not even been twisted into pseudo-legality in the US or the UK. Alexander made a clear explanation of the intricacy of this dance on 60 Minutes.

    Did the UK police allow 4000 victims to suffer intrusions of privacy publicly exposed AND the anxiety of not knowing who intruded just to cover their own extra-legal activities with telephony providers? People's families fell apart and several lost jobs being considered suspect wrongly. What OTHER crimes have been allowed to go uninvestigated because the coppers wanted to cover their own bums?

    December 18, 2013 at 10:33 am |
  6. Abby Gilmore

    Yup, I'm suggesting David Cameron has some missing minutes of data. Who concealed them? And don't blame it on the secretary, this time. Maybe the Home Secretary, but leave the plebs out of it!

    December 18, 2013 at 10:22 am |
  7. Abby Gilmore

    Has NSA figured out who compressed the content out of David Cameron's email in Rebekah Brooks' BlackBerry, yet?

    Brooks told the Leveson Inquiry that her work BB failed to image Cameron's email's content. She told the judge it was "compressed." See her transcript at their site covered in the first six pages. She could not explain to the court how that happened, but the devise was in police custody for three weeks prior to this imaging failure in August of 2011.

    But I thought GCHQ told NSA that THEY cracked the BlackBerry's compression technology in NOVEMBER of 2011. Did someone beat them to the punchbowl?

    Cameron knows we know he knows he has this imaging problem, but law in the UK prevents anyone from discussing evidence or defendants in a trial until over. And this devise seems not to be part of Brooks' perversion of justice case although it suggests evidence tampering, so I think it is being further suppressed by national security devices.

    Maybe that contentless email was just a Temproa metadata file of its former self, but the fact of its sending and its emptiness suggest this is a problem better meant for inquiry. Several months ago, I did read a man in his late 50s had been arrested for altering the performance of computing device, but that was all. They are very tight lipped in the UK. No Court TV for THEM! They cannot possibly entertain this evidence publicly, but we can!! We're AMERICANS!

    This sounds like some pretty sophisticated evidence tampering to me. I learned at Leveson that folks knew folks who could perform inquiries for them that were extra-legal, but owing to their former jobs in law enforcement they seemed to easily get away with it. Please tell me this was just a rogue BB squisher, because I'm not up for the UK's Dick Nixon, not yet. I wanna finish Downton.

    December 18, 2013 at 10:07 am |
  8. Abby Gilmore

    Of the 72 plus reporters and government officials in the UK arrested for exchanging money for stolen documents, several were released from arrest because the UK court determined the value of the reveal to the Public Interest was more significant than the harm done their standards. These were reveals of government wrongdoing.

    Toobin sounds like all the others who are covering for NSA and their Congressional clowns. They still insist they've done nothing wrong. But if that is the case, why is Feinstein pushing a bill to codify all this illegality surrounding bulk data grabs? Why?

    December 18, 2013 at 9:47 am |
  9. anup singh

    the snowden-saga has made the biggest dent in the so-called greatest country's image who has done just the opposite in trusting friends,respecting human-right as the 12th dec.arrest of indian diplomate in newyork & the subsequent strip-searching as if she was a criminal.the worst that she was hand-cuffed in her children's school.i am sure that ultimately US has to come clean on this admitting the wrong doing in this case,it really troubles me that ur show has not bothered to report this & may i ask why anderson because it would have shown the US guv in a difficult spot but i am a regular viewer of ur program me & i am sure u can take this case on the line of ur Keeping them honest.i hope u would think over it & do the right thing to report truth.thank you.good luck.

    December 17, 2013 at 10:43 pm |

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