Tonight on AC360°, watch more of Anderson's exclusive interview with Zimmerman juror B37. The juror tells Anderson she believes Trayvon Martin played a role in his own death.
She says, "When George confronted him, he could have walked away and gone home. He didn't have to do whatever he did and come back and be in a fight."
Tune in for part two of the interview at 8 and 11 p.m. ET.
Update: Four of the six jurors issued a joint statement Tuesday night saying that Juror B37’s interview with CNN does not reflect their opinions. "The death of a teenager weighed heavily on our hearts, but in the end we did what the law required us to do," the statement said in a request for privacy.
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I wonder if Juror B37 would advise HER teenage son, if she had one, to head for home and lead a possible drug addict directly there, with all the dangers this entailed, rather than do what Trayvon Martin did? Personally I have no doubt the decision was racially motivated.
I have a question for the jurors "HOW COULD THEY VOTE NOT GUILTY?"
Trayvon was walking in a public area...nobody observed him climbing somebody's wall or breaking a door/window.... Zimmerman had no right to question him in any way!!!
I hope the jurors that were chosen were littler more wiser since I am questioning their common sense...if they have an ounce of conscience remaining,... I hope they feel and live little guiltier for the rest of their life.
With all the violence going on because of the Zimmerman verdict, what's next.. women getting assulted too?
B37 did not do her duty as a citizen. She did her duty as a business woman. In "my heart" I know she was thinking book sells when she was in the jury room.
Anderson, I believe, out of all the network/cable hosts trying to make sense of this tragedy, you would be the one to not fan the fire but I'm starting to believe I'm wrong. I'm not going to go through the entire transcript of this trial because all of you "journalists" have it. I ask you to do one thing...listen to the 911 non-emergency tape and let's go from there; Who asked GZ what TM's race was...911, was there not multiple burglaries in that neighborhood...yes. who asked when George said TM was running, "Did you see which way he went"...911. Who said ok when the 911 operator said not to follow...GZ. Who had 3 plus minutes to go 330' to get home based on the phone call records...TM. NBC started this bull sh*t, and you, as well as everyone else keeps fanning it. You should all be embarrassed starting with Sunny and NG. Why don't you guys talk about the facts instead of the generalizations? This is another trial where the media doesn't like the verdict and now targets the defendant as well as the jurors. You all should be proud! Can't wait to hear what comes out of your next staff meeting. 24 hour news...
Thank you, Anderson Cooper, for bringing this discussion to the people!
Fearing for one's life is subjective. It is unjustifiable for anyone, other than a Police Officer, to be able to hide behind the "Stand Your Ground" law especially after provoking an incident then shooting an unarmed person because a fight ensues.
George Zimmerman would have been better off going to jail. As it stands now, he has to live in fear the rest of his life, no one will hire him, his family name has been tarnished. Maybe he can become a bounty hunter since he likes to shoot unarmed people.
AC, it is my understanding that any defendant is innocent until proven guilty. This so-called expert panel seems to have forgotten that. The burden was on the state to prove that Zimmerman committed a crime beyond a reasonable doubt. I'm an investigator, and based on the evidence and testimony that I saw, not only did the prosecution not prove that, they actually did more to prove his innocence, and I believe that any truly objective person would agree. The sad truth, and I'm surprised that more journalists are not posing this scenario to pundits, is that the same people supporting Trayvon Martin in this case would assuredly be praising self-defense laws and cheering in the streets today had the roles been reversed.
I was a juror in a Florida Stand Your Ground case. The black defendant was found not guilty for killing his white friend. We the jury felt he had no choice when his friend attempted to kill or cause bodily harm with a tire iron. The defendant shot his friend twice while the deceased swung the tire iron toward the defendants head. All this nonsense over a money dispute. No one is threatening the defendant for his actions. Nor should they!!!
You want to prevent a similar incident like this from happening again? Teach your children not to punch someone in the face to prove your manliness.
I've always questioned why Zimmerman would be screaming for help when he had the gun?!?! As far as I know, I have not heard any individual ask this question?
Thank you for your show tonight. I am a white women and feel so sad I wanted to cry that African Americans have to tell there children not to run in public and have to speak with there children in a way that white people never have to even think about. How enlightening to know and how sad. I feel like we all need to see each other as humans and fellow Americans with all the rights to live a life of peace and not fear. Keep the conversation going and keep pushing for everyone in every community to see each other as one, not a particular race. Also keep talking about having our laws change in every state to be more fare to ALL our citizens and children. I am so sad but happy that this is being put front and center to make everyone think!
Listening to juror B37 got me thinking why would neurosurgeons ask a group of 6 spectators decide the fate of patient? let the professional police do what they do best, lawyers and diligent judges do what they took their oath to do. Pooled ignorance is no way to deliver justice!!
I have watched the trial and all the after late night shows discussing the trail from day one. I would like to see a show that has high school and college kids represented so that they may share their thoughts at their level. We have not heard from them and I think they really want to be heard and in a session such as yours.... I look forward to seeing it soon Mr Cooper... Love your show..
Both me and my wife signed the petition to justice department made by NAACP – we feel so much for Trayvon Martin – it was very un-necessary death as AG said – yet the killer gets the luxury afforded to him by this jury to walk away and kill another teenager if GZ fees the same – It is true. The verdict has basically convicted the victim in this case. We strongly fee that justice failed on Trayvon Martin – it is a clear miscarriage of justice/travesty of justice
Outlawing an Americans ability to defend himself automatically makes him prey for outlaws. Stop burying your heads in the sand and face the truth... there are millions of lawfull gun owners alive and well protecting themselves and their families and neighbors. George and Trayvon should have BOTH walked away!!
Anderson Cooper's show was a joke. Not a single guest from the Zimmerman defense side of the fence, not even a single guest willing to challenge the premise that without exception American society and the American justice system is racist. Cooper didn't raise a finger to object when his guests repeated told the lie that the Zimmerman jury was "all white". Not a single mention was made of the fact that Zimmerman was beaten by Martin and the only eyewitness has Martin doing a ground-and-pound on Zimmerman. Cooper is a joke as a journalist and the panel was filled with nothing but scammers out to make a buck off the African American community.
1 – i cant believe he was found innocent.
2 – racial profiling was used – by both (although the media is only talking about one side)
I agree with Matt's comment above. Also, great town hall Anderson. Excellent journalism.
You think bringing opinions in that all agree with each other is a great way of advancing the racial issues in our country. You are a fool! Over 70% of the African American children are born to a single parent. Could that be part of the problem in the African American communities with more crimes? It's tough to raise a child with 2 parents let alone 1 mother and no father. There are African Americans who speak to this however they never reach your program or the national media... because it's a difficult issue that puts responsbility on people in America. God forbid Americans have responsiblity in today's age. The greatest gerneration would just shake their heads in disgust at us now. And that is only ONE of the issues that should be discussed however people are labelled as raciest if they even mention such a thing... so no you will never make this situation better because you really don't want to have an HONEST DEBATE!
Concerning the "stand your Ground" law discussion in the Race and the Justice System segment, someone on your panel stated "how can someone even write a law [that can be applied this way] ". The answer is: your Legislators. They write these laws and unfortunately they have no expertise or education in the law nor do the majority of Legislators care to educate themselves as to the unintended consequences or collateral damage of the laws they pass. Organizing a protest is good. Organizing your vote is even better.
Wow...what a show, moving, compelling, and full of truth. Kudo's to the entire panel.
People of color need to stop begging for the impossible.
It will never be about race in the psyche of most whites no matter what so stop trying ...as of this verdict it's official, coon hunting season just be first or be dead you know the history, people of color around the world are no longer accepting this treatment from whites so why should we
I just wanted to say that the show tonight with the Town Hall on Race and Justice in America is the best television show I have seen on race EVER!! Kudos to AC 360 for getting together such great and talented individuals to talk about race in America. Thank you!!!!
Mark is speaking to the truth ! I really appreciate Mark's open and very confident views how race is infiltrated into the justice system – how can we expect justice when the system that is there to protect you goes out and discriminates against you- for you being what you are ?
People carrying a gun should be trained in such a way that, if they are in a situation like the one GZ found himself, the first reflex should be to shoot at the feet or just in the air as a warning shot; and not in the chest. A gun should first be used as a deterrent and only later, if at all, to kill. Carrying a gun gives you an unfair advantage, and that should not be abused.
George Zimmerman was only indicted AFTER the Martins and Civil Rights personalities demanded that he be indicted. The police had decided not to do so. They got their indictment. That's all they said they wanted. In fact, they got a trial with talented representation and a jury of their peers. The jury that their lawyers helped to impanel decided the verdict on the basis of the evidence presented to them. Now they're saying the system failed them because they didn't like the verdict they received. It did exactly what it was supposed to do. I have not patience for those who say the system didn't work because they didn't like the verdict.
Can someone ask the female prosecutor what she thinks about the Zimmerman verdict compared to the African American female she prosecuted and was given 20 years in prison!?
Your panelist is patently wrong. That juror called Trayvon and George by their names. She needs to go back and watch the interview. This is the kind of selective reporting that helps to perpetuate racism in America today.
She is more favorable to accept the statements of GZ( despite his acute and apparent inconsistencies) but clear in her mind to view Jeantel as not a credible witness. She even acknowledges that George fabricated some – in her own words she utters the word "fabricated ". She said she went into Jury room with her mind settled as not guilty – no question being biased ! This is the reason many countries have banned jury system as it has its own flaws which leads to travesty / miscarriage of justice as in this case !
Do you not feel that guns in the USA are a major part of this tragedy? As a Canadian I don't understand a civilian walking around armed.
I live in Chicago and I am utterly outraged by the fact this is national story with national coverage while on average there are 40 shooting murders in Chicago PER MONTH. Where are all of you outraged about the murder statistics coming out of Chicago??!! And why are those not covered nationally??!! Over the 4th of July weekend, Chicago reported ONLY 70 shootings and 16 deaths, they were happy about this as it was down by 20 shootings from last year! The rest of the nation can react to what its been fed, we in Chicago are dumbfounded as we are trying to react to what happens EVERY DAY
Or, dare I suggest make it illegal for anyone but law enforcement to carry guns! Works just fine in Canada
Tuesday 7/15 episode of AC360 was racist in its disrespect for the individual and the assumption that only black people can judge other black people. If that is the case, then we might as well have a segregated society. I am black and want / deserve respect from whites. This show discounts the respect I have earned.
I agree 300% the jury was biased – she is sorry for both 0one man dead and the other inconvenienced – clear bias ! I applaud Mark , there is no way the jury decision was void of race – the jury woman on interview clearly testifies to her true feelings !
I just read an article about all the shootings and killings in Chicago during the Zimmerman trial. What about all these?
The guy saying that a juror is supposed to think of the victim as a son, Im guessing this guy has know clue of what a jurors job is. They are to be impartial, they are to judge the evidence only. The juror told you race never came up. Why dont you believe it. All this talk about race is you all media trying to make news thats not there. Move on. There are other things to talk about.
"a frank conversation on race"
Really? Featuring Trayvon's family lawyer, the prosecution, and pretty much everyone that is only arguing one side. I guess by 'frank' conversation they meant 'one sided'.
I hate when people say 'frank' conversation on race but NEVER touch the ACTUAL touchy topics. Like how Zimmerman's neighborhood was constantly burglarized by black youths, so it wasn't just profiling out of pure hatred. It was profiling out of experience (IF there was any profiling). If you want to have a frank conversation, why not bring that up?
This isn't a conversation, it's a one-sided discussion that doesn't bother bringing up touchy topics and real issues. When the audience applaueded the introduction of the prosecutor I shut my tv off cause I knew the audience already knew its allegiance.
if g zimmerman is the one yelling on the 911 tape,he must also be going for his gun at the same time, who yells for help when he is about to shoot somebody, i am having a hard time beliveing g. zimmerman,
In all honesty, the more I hear #jurorB37 talk the more I become sick. It is blatantly clear that she is completely ignorant of the world around her and the cross-cultural experiences that she does not comprehend. She has absolutely no respect, solidarity, empathy, and humility for "the other." JurorB37 was so gullible. I think her "gullibleness" was do to her being a victim of her own narrow subjectivity. She profiled Trayvon Martin's friend Rachel Jeantel calling her "uneducated" and incapable to speak. She felt "sorry for her." She focused more on who she is and disregarded the importance in what she was saying. She had more compassion for #GeorgeZimmerman (a grown man who is MMA trained and carrying a gun) who admitted he killed a 17 year old kid simply walking home from the store -> #TrayvonMartin. Ridiculous! This is a poor reflection of what a jury/juror should be. Jury's should be inclusive. This is a mockery of justice! Another thing! News journalist and reporters. PLEASE stop asking white people and the juror(s) what is racism and what are racial acts. How can they credibly answer a question about a topic they will never experience? Our country needs to stop being naive and conveniently in denial about race, racial relations, and injustices in our "justice system." Our society needs to humble itself and recognize that our country's history produced negative consequences and solidarity and LISTENING instead of judging ones we do not understand will start the healing process.
I was disappointed with the panel of four men who criticized the juror who took her job seriously, examined the evidence and frankly, got it absolutely right. This was not a race case and I hope George Zimmerman successfully sues NBC for initially doctoring and editing the original 911 call from Zimmerman to make it appear as though it was a race issue. Now we have rioting in the streets because people in this country are deliberately misled and many apparently have poorly developed critical thinking skills and lack inclination to investigate facts. I am becoming less and less willing to even listen to most media outlets because of the dishonesty and efforts to promote a liberal agenda and protect the current administration. The only reason I know what really happened in Benghazi was due to the journalistic integfrity of precious few reporters like Catherine Herridge. I am only interested in fact based reporting at this point. That juror who shared her experience deserved to be defended. Thanks for reading.
This case is over. Stop regurgitating it; you are doing nothing but inciting racial hatred by repeating it over and over all day. Do you know how many people are murdered in the U.S. each day? Do you know what is happening in this world?
You are supposed to be a News Network.
Well where is the first video showing by the surveillance camera, while George Zimmerman walk into the police station. He was clean. no blood on his clothe, the police was looking for any injuries in his head. Can we get that video again. The only video showing now on TV is the cover up of what seemed as" injured" . Can u show that video again.
George Zimmerman should have never gotten out of the car. The only reason he did was because of the 9MM weapon he had on him. That weapon gave him the courage to be a tough guy. And, by the way, Juror B37 acts as if George Zimmerman was her long, lost best friend. She acts as if Trayvon Martin was the person on trial and he has been convicted of his own murder. I'm disgusted by this whole, sad chapter in our nation's history.
Right now, I am so happy to not be an American! Having followed the trial closely and listened to prosecution and defence debates...you as a country should be doing MUCH reflection. And, as for Juror b37- I can only shake my head in disgust. But I'm just a Caucasian mother of two boys who even as hard working young men in their twenties, wear hoodies and love Skittles.
I think that CNN should host a cross-cultural communication course that will educate Americans about the history, differences and similarities of all ethnic groups in America.
Just a thought! Could the scream for help on the 911 tape that the jurors assumed to be George Zimmerman's orchestrated by him while he was wrestling with Treyvon Martin; due to the fact that he knew his intent was to hurt him and if he sounded like he was under duress it would be justified that he was defending himself?
I think its sad how the jury is did not consider Trayvon's right to defend himself. He was followed by a George, a man he did not know. He had every right to be there as George. Trayvon was pursued by a stranger. He had a right to defend himself.
Also, there has been so much attention on Trayvon being on top during the fight. Being on top does not make someone the aggressor, it just means that person has superior fighting skills. It really means George started a confrontation with a person who was better at defending himself. Once her was into the brawl, he was overwhelmed and was afraid because he was over matched. That is why you do not start confrontations, you never how it will end.
Trayvon defended himself from a guy who followed and confronted him. He was afraid for himself and did his best to survive what coiuld have been a mugger or worse. Technically, he could be looked at as harassing Trayvon.
Jurors had a duty to look at both sides and they did not. They looked at George's side and took to stance that Trayvon was the aggressor and looked at it from that point the entire time. George may have feared for his life but if he was not the aggressor and pursued after being told not to, he would not have been in a situation. Whether he wanted to do good honestly is not the point. Good intentions do not clear you of killing someone.
You want to prevent a similar incident like this from happening again? Make it illegal for anyone other than a cop to follow someone if they are carrying a gun. You can carry a gun or you can follow someone but you can't do both. And should you injure or kill someone after committing this crime, the penalties would be even stiffer.
Zimmerman had every right to be where he was, especially since the 911 dispatcher repeatedly requested a description of the suspicious person they were discussing as well as his location. Martin approached Zimmerman out of the darkness and confronted him, "sucker punched" him, pinned him on the ground, pummeling him and pounding his head on the cement repeatedly. This is all corroborated during the trial. Things would have turned out differently, however, if Martin was driving a car and/or possessed a gun of his own.
I think the problem with a law like this is how to define "following someone." I could be minding my own business and going in the same direction as you, but you may feel like I'm following you, and you would be wrong.
Matt..... use common sense first and foremost. Zimmerman was WRONG for getting out of his vehicle when the 911 dispatch asked him not to follow Mr. Martin. In any good or bad situation; it takes 2 to tango.... Have respect for our DEMOCRACY (the jurors) and all I can say is "CAN WE ALL JUST GET ALONG"
Matt - I posted above you and read your posting. Neighborhood "watchmen" should only carry tazer guns .... NOT REAL GUNS. Trayvon would still be here today if George Zimmerman was armed with a tazer gun. Also, the 911 operator must change their procedures to INSTRUCTING neighborhood watchmen to NOT FOLLOW ... and THEN keep repeating this instruction over and over ... instead of asking questions (like which way is he heading or what is the name of the street he is on) Your idea simply is not feasible since our police forces are presently being "cut back" and expecting a police response to a simple "suspicious person" report just would not be top priority in most cases. Response time would be too long.
I agree. Armed civilians are not cops and should not act as such. Laws addressing this would help.
Also, i find myself wondering, remember when the O.J.verdict was read, the black community celebrated. One of their own got off. I don't understand the double standard. Only whites can be racist? Because they are black they cant be racist? Is that really whats happening here?
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