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September 15th, 2011
10:15 PM ET

Caplan to Bachmann: Prove HPV claim

Editor's note: Arthur Caplan says he'll give $10,000 to charity if Michele Bachmann can produce her HPV victim.


Filed under: Raw Politics
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  1. Jass

    There is no better protection than first abstinence, then condoms.That's what condoms were invented for and they work great if you use them before the moment and read the direction properly prior to ever being near the need.

    September 16, 2011 at 7:59 pm |
  2. Jass

    All vaccines have a certain amount of side effects depending on the patient's individual responses to things such as the chemicals from which they are made from or preserved with. And this does not even include the situations where it was not stored properly with regard to refrigeration in transit or in the doctor's own refrigerator. There are also cases where too much live bacteria or virus is in the batch and causes the illness or death. If vaccines were ever 100% safe and effective, your doctor wouldn't have you sign that little disclosure statement with the words "hold harmless" prior to sending the nurse in with the shot. On most new patient forms for a change of medical offices,the intake papers will have some type of question regarding a history of reaction to any medicine or procedure. Once a reaction occurs,the possibility of another one to a different vaccine goes up , especially if the problem is with the chemical preservatives used or the medium used to incubate the virus or bacteria in, such as in an allergy to eggs. If Michelle wants to win this bet, she only needs to secure the test studies and check the results from the company or the FDA. If there were absolutely no reported problems, then doctor's won't have any problem signing the "hold responsible" paper she submits to them prior to vaccination. Its amazing how that little document can level the playing field for parents that have legitimate reservations concerning the safety of any vaccine or their particular unique family history of reactions to chemicals, etc.

    September 16, 2011 at 7:52 pm |
  3. Sue

    Thank you Arthur Caplan for calling Ms. Bachmann's irresponsibility out so loudly. Many of us parents agonize over these vaccines and worry about potential complications, but this was a totally irresponsible comment by Ms. Bachmann that purely shows she would say anything to knock out her opponents, she wontonly uses fear-mongering as a political tool, and you can't trust anything she says let alone trust her with any national decision-making. Shame, shame on you, Ms. Bachmann.

    September 16, 2011 at 3:56 pm |
  4. Courtney Stern

    I had the HPV Gardasil vaccine at 22 years old and it caused something called ADEM (acute disseminated ensephalomyolytis). I spent 9 days in a coma, 14 days on a ventilator and 28 days in the hospital fighting for my life. I was forced to relearn how to walk and write again. I still suffer with side effects. I want to share my story!!!

    September 16, 2011 at 2:14 pm |
  5. Ann Chappell

    If as a woman I could afford either the pap test annually or the vaccine which should I choose? remember the vaccine prevents only some cervical cancers. An annual visit will mean I would catch any cervical cancer early enough to treat it. I wonder how many woman will die because they think the vaccine has protected them from all cervical cancers and so stop having the annual test. Look at the numbers. How many woman who have a pap test every year die from cervical cancers caused by HPV?

    September 16, 2011 at 11:12 am |
  6. Michelle Turner

    My son got the HIB vaccine. He got the disease instead of the antibodies. For three years, no one found the infection in his head. My son has an MR diagnosis. I have before and after pictures. I lost my son in two weeks. Does this help your cause? We are college educated parents trying to tell our government and doctors that our children are getting hurt and we need help. My son now has no immune system and costs all of us = close to 1 million by the age of 18. He's 8 now.

    September 16, 2011 at 10:16 am |
  7. Greg & Debbie Mele

    Our daughter has been devastated with a diagnosis of severe POTS (Postural Orthastatic Tachycardia Syndrome), which is a form of Dysautonomia. There was no rhyme or reason for her developing this. It took many ER visits,a multitude of doctors and 2 different hospitals, to finally come to a conclusion what she had. A normal 15 year old with absolutley no health issues....until she receive her 2nd Cervarix shot! She started with the many of the symptoms that come along with POTS after her 1st shot, after the second shot, she "plummeted". Although not comfirmed, we as a family 110% believe her terrible condition, for which we have no definate cause and as of now there is no cure, to stem from her shots. She did not and will not receive the 3rd shot in the series. 'Right On' for Michele Bachmann! Just Google "Gardasil dangers United Kingdom" and you'll have the answer to Bachmann's statement...and put should lead Caplan to "wake up and smell the dangers here!"

    September 16, 2011 at 9:55 am |
  8. Ron77

    Ignorance? Sounds like Mr. Caplan is quite ignorant too. Or maybe naive. True, vaccines are needed but they are risks whether the FDA wants to release this information or not.

    The bottom line of the story regarding vaccines is that any parent should know how what a vaccine is made of, and be aware of the dangers. They are some! Informed people make responsible choices. Know what you're injecting in your children. As a parent, this is your duty.

    There's plenty of corruption in the vaccine world and lots of money to be made. Putting all your trust in what politicians, federal agencies and scientists (scientist are not omnipotent) is naive. They have many other motives to support mandatory vaccines than caring about the health of your child. Caring about he well-being of your child is your job, parent!

    Here's a hint. Look at the mandatory vaccines list in Europe compare to the US. There is something to worry about.

    September 16, 2011 at 7:53 am |
  9. Jim

    Ms Bachmann , prove it !

    September 16, 2011 at 7:53 am |