For Jim Walsh:
Filling the reactors / or covering the rods with glass aggregate first, then sand, instead of soil and sand mixture may help to seal any structural damage or leaks in containment vessel. The melting point of glass is lower than that of the temp of the exposed fuel, which could result in liquid glass flowing towards and out of any fissures, cooling and solidifying as it does so. This could possibly seal or nearly seal the containment vessel an allow water to more easily maintain a safe level. Glass must be readily available at japanese recycling facilities.
Where are the robots?
Why do we have a problem with the rod ponds at the nuclear plants in Japan?
They need water to cover the rods.
People cannot get within one mile of the ponds!
So let’s get robots to drag a “bangalador” pipeline to the ponds.
Robot drags the pipe, oil riggers attach sections as it moves forward, that’s what they do.
When the robot reaches the pond it falls in taking the pipe with it.
On loss of life.
We have heard for years that this is what robots are all about!
Where are the robots. This is their time of glory.
Is Radiation cumulative ? I.E. If you receive 1/10 of a chest x ray does, is that determined hourly, daily, or yearly. IF daily, would logic dictate that in 10 days you would receive the same does as a complete x ray?
I wonder if it is not possible to erect tower cranes or large track cranes to remove material and apply water. surely some country can donate barges,cranes, pumps and generator sets? Guy Parsons
Recovery plans, well we are wrapped up in the disaster that we can not see through the trees. I am a decommissioning engineer, I have done about 30 to 40 estimates including TMI-2. The problem is no support from the countries with nuclear energy. I do not see anything, no barges of equipment since the land routes are clogged with debris. First things first, need electricity, and water. Well why haven't anyone thought of using tugboats pumps? Set up a barge with electrical generators, another with pumping equipment, run hoses up to the roof of the turbine building,set up stationary fire hose platforms on the roof, point nozzle to the spent fuel pool area, and pump water 24-7. Assuming the fire pump can deliver 200 gallons per minute, a typical spent fuel pool is about 300,000 gallons, it would take about 25 hours to fill. Assuming all the flow was going into the pool; however, we should consider 50% of the water get into the pool, w 50 hours it will take. I am sick of hearing all these so call experts that havent decommissioned a thing calling themselves experts. Get U.S Navy in there and help these exhausted TEPCO employees.
Best Case Senario- We Learn That No Matter How well we design things That Mother Nature is MORE than capable of Taking it out. & We do not use methods to produce energy that have the potential for sickening,killing thousands if not millions of people.If Japan's Nuclear plant can be damaged to the point it is now just think about other places in the world that do not have the safety standards Japan has.Had this earthquake hit in the Southern California Area Don't insult my intelligence & tell me The Nuclear plants would be fine.
Worst case Senario- We do not learn , We keep building Nuclear Plants & When Mother Nature strikes We can all stick our heads between our legs & Kiss our Behinds goodbye!
Ok. I understand the reasoning to try to save and contain these nuclear plants. However at this point is it unreasonable to "kill" them. Ie. Concrete pour...?
I don't understand why we haven't flown one of our small spy drones in to the reactor areas to see where the water levels are? Somebody needs to ask the question!
Is there a chance they could cool the rods down With CO2..after all it is as cold as dry ice
Anderson,can you get those there in Japan to think about using several big cranes into those reactors and hoist water lines or pipes to put water directly into those reactor,no missing it then
Why not use one/some of those concrete pumpers they use to push concrete up many feet/floors (usually to pour floors)in construction to push or force H2O into the reactors? I don't know the limit of these machines but also don't think that plain H2O is as heavy as concrete and may therefore increase it's reach. W/a camera attached to the end of the boom you could now see what's going on and where the H2O is needed and going to properly aim the stream.
Why not drop ice instead of water? It will fall straighter and on target, plus will be colder. For that matter why not sand? Something that will melt and over the hot radioactive rods?
I have an idea on how to save Japan from nuclear disaster. We put a glass dome (or use a stronger material) around the nuclear plants keeping radiation in. This way the nuclear radition will not travel any further. Also, this would allow time for the Japanese officials to devise a permanent plan to resolve this nuclear issue. Some may say that the dome would explode. However, this is better than letting the radiation levels increase and spread throughout Japan and the rest of the world. Thank you for your time and consideration. Please be safe.
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