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December 21st, 2009
09:55 PM ET

Live Blog from the Anchor Desk 12/21/09

Tonight, we're keeping them honest on Capitol Hill. See what deals Democratic leaders made to get the Senate health care reform bill passed early this morning. It's your tax dollars. Plus, up close, the mysterious death of actress Brittany Murphy.

Want to know what else we're covering? Read EVENING BUZZ.

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  1. Emily

    Murphy's health sounds like it was a real issue!

    Diabetes is an awful disease! ...the side effects, there are so many of them...not sure what if she had Type1 or 2 ....

    don't know much about her....hope she can Rest In Peace! @>–

    December 21, 2009 at 10:54 pm |
  2. starr, formerly known as vincent

    I think accusing women of getting preganat to avoid service, is akin to calling women "cowards" in the face of war.

    I Do Not beleive that women casually get pregnant to avoid service. Having a child is a big deal-most mothers' do not take this decision lightly!

    December 21, 2009 at 10:53 pm |
  3. Gerry

    People shouldn't be upset that Reid did a deal to get this heathcare bill passed, they should be upset by the fact he actually had to do it because of the obstructionism of the gop.

    In my mind, considering how many people this bill will help, Reid should be viewed as a hero and all voters should remember what the GOP did to try to make this bill fail.

    December 21, 2009 at 10:53 pm |
  4. Isabel Siaba

    This is so sad!! And we lost artists adorable!

    December 21, 2009 at 10:53 pm |
  5. Emily

    @Danielle, & Casey Jones,

    It's not often that Jack Gray is seen!

    This should be good...the Best & Worse of 2009!

    I wonder if they are going to do one for the dec...decade too! I can barely type!

    December 21, 2009 at 10:51 pm |
  6. Teena

    @ Lori

    Lori,

    Judge Pinto and 3 seperate psycholgists confirmed that Sean is being emotionally and psychologically abused. It is a clear cut case of parental alienation and a very bad enviornment for Sean. Not just my opinion but professional opinion. He needs to be out of there ASAP. And let me ask you (not sure if you have kids), If this was your nightmare and your child was taken illegally from you. Would you just sit back and leave him? I think not

    December 21, 2009 at 10:51 pm |
  7. Molly

    What if you get pregnant before deployment?

    December 21, 2009 at 10:51 pm |
  8. Brandon

    @David if you were ever in the Military then you would know there is quite a bit someone could get in trouble for...not saying this would go all the way to Court Marshall...

    December 21, 2009 at 10:50 pm |
  9. Joseph

    @ Mike from Syracuse
    But you might not always be able to avoid getting a sunburn either... a situation might force you to be out in the sun when your sunscreen has run out. Likewise things can go wrong even with protection. Shouldn't one take human error canto account? And it's ridiculous the idea that anyone would think women would get pregnant to get out of service.

    December 21, 2009 at 10:50 pm |
  10. Emily

    Best of , Worse of 2009 looks interesting!

    I was talking w/friends on weekend; not only is it difficult to believe that 2009 is almost over, but the fact that we are at the end of the decade too!

    I still recall all the 'Y2K' talk; it seems like only a few years back...not 10!

    Wow, Jack G. is in this! 🙂

    December 21, 2009 at 10:49 pm |
  11. David, Indiana

    Hi Randi Kaye.

    Nope that's just crazy, you can't prosecute someone for getting pregnant or having consensual sex. Or court martial. The military has to work around that.

    December 21, 2009 at 10:49 pm |
  12. Isabel Siaba

    Jack Gray is just amazing!!!! 🙂

    December 21, 2009 at 10:49 pm |
  13. Isabel Siaba

    @starr, formerly known as vincent

    Both sides say they have tried several meetings and were not answered. I do not know.

    December 21, 2009 at 10:49 pm |
  14. Isabel Siaba

    @ Emily

    The Bianchi (mother's family) is a family known and successful in Brazil, and the family of Sean's step-father (João Paulo Lins e Silva) .... Lins e Silva is a traditional family of lawyers in Brazil, but I hope that justice is done and that the best is decided for the boy!.

    December 21, 2009 at 10:47 pm |
  15. Casey Jones - Palm Springs, CA

    OMG It's Jack Gray!!!! I've never seen him before!

    December 21, 2009 at 10:46 pm |
  16. Danielle - Long Beach, CA

    Look at Jack Gray – I love him!!

    December 21, 2009 at 10:46 pm |
  17. Brandon

    Pretty simple...you're there to do a Job, you're in the military...you sign away many of your rights to receive in return certain pay, benefits, and allowances. Don't have sex while you are on deployment...if you have sex then know what the consequences could be if you happen to become pregnant. I was in the Navy and it was frowned upon if a woman got pregnant in the middle of a deployment. Lucky for them the typical Navy deployment is 6 months at a time, and they hit port visits so there are ways to lie your way out of what you did on the ship.

    December 21, 2009 at 10:46 pm |
  18. Lori

    Interesting story about pregnancy in the military.

    December 21, 2009 at 10:46 pm |
  19. Mike, formerly from Syracuse

    Many women DO try to get pregnant to avoid deployment. In the first gulf war ships with women in the crew had an explosion of pregnancies before and during deployment.

    December 21, 2009 at 10:44 pm |
  20. Casey Jones - Palm Springs, CA

    "If your own action or inaction takes you out of the fight you have harmed the war effort."

    This makes sense although considering the length and the repeated number of times people serve, I'm not certain it's terribly pragmatic.

    December 21, 2009 at 10:44 pm |
  21. Teena

    Just watched the segment on David Goldman and I am completely disgusted.

    Why on earth would David allow his son to stay with kidnapping child abusers for one more day?! And Tostes has his facts ALL wrong.

    Sean WAS kidnapped. His mother said she was going on VACATION and NEVER came back!

    The Brazilian family never tried to "negotiate" until now when they see they are losing. They wouldn't even let Sean talk to David. And the idea of negotiating with these people is absurd anyway! They kidnapped his son! Not much to "negotiate"!

    Tostes tried to act like the "kind" lawyer representing the "kind" Brazilian family. He failed to mention that he has been slandering David from day one and has threatened David if he doesn't agree to Tostes terms.

    This entire thing makes me sick. Sean has a loving father with whom he belongs. Instead these money hungry mongruls are more worried about themselves than to do the right thing. Not to mention they are CRIMINALS and are breaking an INTERNATIONAL LAW! This is NOT a custody case. It is a child abduction case!

    December 21, 2009 at 10:44 pm |
  22. starr, formerly known as vincent

    @Erica

    Thank you so much for having a panel on this recent ruling re: pregnancy.

    This "order" is primarily aimed at women! I don't think tracking down the father will be easy or taken seriously. Also, sexual abuse in the armed forces is also a Big issue.

    This most certainly an issue of privacy & constitutional as well!
    Thanks again for the most excellent panel discussion.

    December 21, 2009 at 10:44 pm |
  23. Molly

    I think it's ridiculous to court marshall a woman for getting pregnant. The Roman Catholic faith prohibits most forms of birth control. If a soldier belongs to that faith , is she supposed to set her beliefs aside when enlisted?

    December 21, 2009 at 10:43 pm |
  24. sue

    Regarding David Goldman and Brazil; I sure wish you would have asked the family's attorney why they would not (as documented in court papers) allow David to see his son for over 4 years? And why they send back letters and presents? Brazil needs to comply with the Hague Convention, there are no negotiations with kidnappers! The mother is dead, the boy needs to be returned to his father....shame on Brazil!

    December 21, 2009 at 10:43 pm |
  25. Susie

    I truly hope the Chief Justice in Brazil does the right thing tomorrow. All other claims/arguments are irrelevant. This 9 year old has a father who loves him and they should be together. David and his family will do everything it takes to make the transition go well - with lots of love and patience.

    December 21, 2009 at 10:43 pm |
  26. Megan Dresslar - Shoreline, WA

    Wow!! Ms Cooper was 107 yrs old, My heart goes to her family and friends, She was so sweet person first time vote for President Obama.

    Brittany Murphy was my favorite actress, My heart goes to her husband Simon and friends.
    What skill for former president Putin took Judo so quickly arts!!! He is really good karate!! I never have take class Judo before.

    December 21, 2009 at 10:43 pm |
  27. Mike, formerly from Syracuse

    There are many rights that a member of the military voluntarily waive. The sunburn case is an example I was given when I first entered the military. If your own action or inaction takes you out of the fight you have harmed the war effort.

    December 21, 2009 at 10:42 pm |
  28. Wally

    Some things are worth paying for. For example the state of Hawaii pays the most for health care then any other state where as states like Louisana and Alabama pay the least. The life expectancy in the state of Hawaii is 80 years old where as Alabama and Louisana the life expectancy is a 74 years old.

    I don't know about the southern Red (neck) states but living more then a half a decade longer would be some thing I would pay for.

    December 21, 2009 at 10:42 pm |
  29. Emily

    @ Mike, formerly from Syracuse,

    "How much will this cost?" ....that is a 2-prong question (@least);
    now, and in the future!

    December 21, 2009 at 10:42 pm |
  30. Alexis

    Tostes makes me sick!! What a horrible human being. Sean needs to be returned to his father. I can't believe Brazil is dragging this out. Sean was KIDNAPPED!!! David shouldn't negotiate (or sit down to be poisioned at Christmas dinner) with the kidnappers! I hope Sean is on his way home tommorow.

    December 21, 2009 at 10:42 pm |
  31. Casey Jones - Palm Springs, CA

    If we can't even deal with people serving in our military as openly gay and lesbian (which doesn't make any difference to begin with), how could we possible deal with "mainstream" service people having sex?

    December 21, 2009 at 10:42 pm |
  32. starr, formerly known as vincent

    @David Gergen, thank you for joining us on the blog.

    Yes, many of us are upset at the "back-room" dealing. I have to say that Sen. Reid's remark did Not help the publics' opinion of the way this bill was voted in (even thoughit is common WA DC politics)

    Yes, you are right about Erica sitting in....she Always does a great job in AC's abscence!

    December 21, 2009 at 10:40 pm |
  33. Emily

    @ Mike, formerly from Syracuse,

    "The 7 senators who sold their votes need to be voted out."

    Perhaps by the time that the final bill comes out, at least one of them will re-develop a bit of a conscience!

    btw,
    what do you think of this law that is now in the Military?

    December 21, 2009 at 10:39 pm |
  34. Mike, formerly from Syracuse

    @Erica, yes it is legal under military law to take action against a pregnant soldier. If a woman is deployed to a war zone she has no 'right' to take herself out of action through an avoidable event, i.e. pregnancy. Her first obligation is to her fellow soldiers, and not to desert them.

    December 21, 2009 at 10:39 pm |
  35. Isabel Siaba

    @David, Indiana

    I do not believe they will reach an agreement, but I hope that they can have some dialogue in favor of Sean and be together at Christmas would be great!

    December 21, 2009 at 10:39 pm |
  36. Tina H.

    I support the key components of this bill. What I cannot support are all the extra stuff that we have to pay for to specific states, Nebraska, Vermont, etc... just so that we can "buy" their votes. I am so angry with all these special deals that were made just so we as a nation can do the right thing for this nation. And as for the Republicans Senators-they have been totally ridiculous and unbelievable. throughout this process. Elementary students conduct themselves with more dignity than they have! And to think I used to be a Republican-what was I thinking! There is seriously something wrong with this whole process! What can we, the people, do to change this craziness?

    December 21, 2009 at 10:37 pm |
  37. Isabel Siaba

    @ Erica

    I liked very much to listen to the lawyer of Brazilian family to speak in a American TV because it was the first time I saw someone speaking on behalf of Brazilian grandparents in the U.S.. That's just .... listen to both sides!

    December 21, 2009 at 10:37 pm |
  38. Isabel Siaba

    The lawyer is quite right .... This is not a war between two countries, but the custody of a child.

    The father has rights, but the maternal grandparents aren't enemies!

    December 21, 2009 at 10:36 pm |
  39. Lori

    David Gergen, Yes, Erica is doing a great job. I am furious about all of the deal making with health care reform.

    December 21, 2009 at 10:36 pm |
  40. NYC-Gerard

    Note that neither bill actually provides *insurance* for the many Americans covered under big-business' "self-insured" plans. They are *protected* but not *insured*. It's a big difference.

    Consider the healthy 24 year old who works for a large corporation and uses no health care. For that employee nothing goes into the shared pool, since the employer is "self-insured". This just:
    – shifts costs from big business to individuals and small business
    – removes any sense of actually investing against future needs
    – provides an incentive for large corporations to be biased toward younger, presumed healthier, staff

    Here again, big business gets a pass on self-insurance, while individuals and small business have *penalties* in the legislation if *they* try to self-insure!

    December 21, 2009 at 10:36 pm |
  41. Joseph

    @Everyone: Sometimes one must accept a few maggots if the rest of the meat is good. One has to be pragmatic and while one should hold onto one's ideals one cannot be too idealistic. One can work to make the world purer but one should not expect it to be pure. Sometimes we must get our hands dirty to see progress, even though we'd rather remain immaculate. We need to look ahead and see whether this has a high work out in the long term. As for the Goldman case why not ask the child what he wants? Admittedly children are not always known for being consistent, but this is about the boy first- ask him who he wants to be with,

    December 21, 2009 at 10:36 pm |
  42. Elena

    What´s this Brazilian lawyer for the family doing on TV playing victim? The Judges ruled there was an abduction and the kids is being mentally abused. The family has pulled the rug from under Mr. Goldman over and over. They also said he could only visit his son if he gave up his parental rights. I hope he brings Sean home for the holidays. Mr. Goldman, please do not accept this dinner invitation, it´s a trap.

    December 21, 2009 at 10:36 pm |
  43. Rich

    Why can't our State Department help David get Sean back, it's the right thing to do and would show the U.S. still has some clout. Or do we?

    December 21, 2009 at 10:35 pm |
  44. Megan Dresslar - Shoreline, WA

    Lori,
    Brazilians and U.S. will not involved right now, Only way up to judge to stay in Brazil or bring Sean home in New Jersey, They willing to negation what they want to do for Sean for best.

    December 21, 2009 at 10:35 pm |
  45. Lori

    The decision should be in the best interest of the child. I would like to know if both sides offer the child a family atmosphere and opportunities to reach his potential. These are difficult decisions and none of the adults get what they want. All have to agree to work together in the best interest of the child. With the distance between New Jersey and Brazil and other aspects of the story, this is even more challenging

    December 21, 2009 at 10:34 pm |
  46. Wally

    This bill will eliminate unfair practices by the insurance companies. It will create insurance pools for small business so they can have the advantages of Big Business. It will set a limit on the amount of your insurance goes to administrative costs.

    When Bush was in office he passed his medicare privatization bill and it didn't improve healthcare at all.

    If they were voting for a big 1.3 trillion dollar tax cut to the rich the Republicans would vote on it in a second.

    December 21, 2009 at 10:33 pm |
  47. Emily

    @Nancy,

    I don't think that David Goldman has much choice in the matter!
    If I were him, I'd want to stay there, until after Christmas, I Sean could not leave before as I would be worried that they would take Sean somewhere else!
    With all the road blocks that David has faced.....what a nightmare!

    December 21, 2009 at 10:33 pm |
  48. Rebecca

    People who are down on this health care bill obviously have never been without it. It might not be perfect yet, but we need to start with something and can continue to work on tweaking it so it works for everybody.

    December 21, 2009 at 10:33 pm |
  49. Casey Jones - Palm Springs, CA

    This whole child custody ordeal just infuriates me. Makes me wonder what the story would be if the gender roles were reversed. Let's face it, there is a lot of (free flowing) corruption and favors south of the border and all the way to the tip of South America (similar to Italy and Russia, to name a few).

    December 21, 2009 at 10:32 pm |
  50. Alain

    For the love of your children and your Country you all have to unite to make health care free! It has to be done now! If your governement needs help in working out the kinks there are other Country's that would gladly help! Private industries are after profit and your gouvernement has the duty to protect the people against such thefts! If people pay minimal amounts on medication they will spend it somewhere else ! People all around the world work in health care and still have strong unions! You need to do it now so ask for help if you need to but it is the responsability of your goverment protect the wallet and the health of it's people!

    Alain Pelletier
    Québec

    December 21, 2009 at 10:32 pm |
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