LZ Granderson
Special to CNN
Far from flowing rainbow flags, the sound of Lady Gaga and, quite honestly, white people, stands a nightclub just outside of Wicker Park in Chicago, Illinois, by the name of The Prop House.
The line to get in usually stretches down the block, and unlike many of the clubs in Boystown and Andersonville, this one plays hip-hop and caters to men who may or may not openly identify as gay, but without question are black and proud.
And a good number of them are tired of hearing how the gay community is disappointed in President Obama, because they are not.
| Anna |
July 16th, 2009 12:13 pm ET It was high time someone said so. |
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| JGB |
July 16th, 2009 12:34 pm ET Gays are trying to be considered a minority.......just plain nuts. What does sexual preference have to do with anything? That's a private matter. Are we going to have to start hiring a certain number of gays? Maybe Obama should have appointed a Gay, Latina Woman! I don't want or need to know anyones sexual preference! |
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| Yadi |
July 16th, 2009 1:00 pm ET I am a wise latina..and I'm gay. I am proud of our President. But, enough talking about gay rights...let's see them. |
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| Isabel • Brazil • |
July 16th, 2009 1:30 pm ET I'm a fan of President Obama, but really on controversial issues such as: equal rights for homosexuals and abortion, in campaign he promises, but until now he's disappointed. All of you might ask why my interest if I am Brazilian and live in Brazil. But America, undoubtedly, sells conduct to world. Earlier this month was presented a project in Supreme Court (Brazil) for the recognition of the union between persons of the same sex as the family, and me as a sympathizer, I say that this will be an important victory. The fight for equal rights is long. I hope that the President is not silent in this case. |
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| HypnotiqOne |
July 16th, 2009 1:49 pm ET Ummm...I think LZ should have spoken to black gay activists in addition to men in the line at The Prop House for a more balanced opinion piece. There are Black gays who are very critical of Obama's LGBT stance. Seriously. |
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| Presley |
July 16th, 2009 2:04 pm ET @Anna:"So gay people give us a break, sexuality like religion should belong and stay private" If the only arguments against Gay rights, i.e. the same rights they had before outing themselves, are those tired arguments that always wind up becoming about "faith based" POV's, that right there should explain who really needs to be outed, Double Standard loving chauvinistic whiners who only exploit "faith" to forward selfish and oppressive ideals. |
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| Sabrina in Las Vegas |
July 16th, 2009 2:32 pm ET I have friends who are gay ( my manager) and others who are bi-sexual. It is there deal who they want to love. Be fine with yourself and don't cheat on your mate. I think society worry too much as if their sexual orientation will rub off onto them. Be strong enough to just be yourselves and and it doesn't matter. If they aren't harming anyone, who cares. Just state it so we know how you swing. |
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| Fay - California |
July 16th, 2009 2:36 pm ET I am still hopeful that President Obama will eventually make good on his campaign promises regarding gay rights but the pace has been frustratingly slow – if there is something he can do NOW to start the ball rolling, he should get on it, no excuses. In addition to that, racism by some in the gay community and the homophobia that plagues some in the black community need to be addressed before more progress can be made – the bottom line is that discrimination in any form is unacceptable. |
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| Deneshia, in Helena, AR |
July 16th, 2009 2:37 pm ET Why is there acceptable gay and abortion rights? This should all be illegal. What's going on in this world? People look around, this shouldn't be acceptable. I know there are numerous of problems in this world, but because of this, we can't even keep up or take the issues one step at a time. Some of us are accepting it, saying its ok as long as it isn't me, or they have nothing to do with me. Everything has something to do with everyone, the more we sit back and watch these things happen then altogether this country will fail and we all will fall together. |
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| Latishia LaVerne, Califonria |
July 16th, 2009 2:38 pm ET Miss Anna, Talk to the hand you do NOT reflect young black women. |
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| CAB |
July 16th, 2009 2:46 pm ET Gays – of whatever color are critical of Obama because they were foolish enough to believe a politician's promises when running for office. As a woman, who happens to be a lesbian I knew that Obama, like any other politican, would say whatever he needed to in order to get elected. He needed the gay vote back then. Not so much right now. I also laugh at the President's unwillingness to remove Don't Ask Don't Tell. As the Commander and Chief all he would need to do is say, we're doing away with it. Period. |
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| Michael Conan Doyle |
July 16th, 2009 2:59 pm ET As a 59 yr old Gay man & life long member of the Democratic Party whose name is on the "Wall of Tolerance" at the National Campaign for Tolerance Headquarters with induction papers signed by Rosa Parks I am forced to reply to LZ Granderson's opinions. Michael Conan Doyle, Akron, Ohio |
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| Dr Donna K Buechler |
July 16th, 2009 3:05 pm ET The author of this piece surely does not think that gays have only been discrinated against only 40 years. Stonewall represents when we said enough–like Rosa Parks. Discrimination is discrimnation & it is wrong. Arguing over who has been discrimnated against the longest or had the worst treatment does no good purpose for anyone. Gay is the new Black in the sense that we are now publicly fighing for our legal rights as citizens of the USA–a country that is suppose to rule by laws & not religion. Black discrimnation is worse because most Blacks can't hide that while many gays lived in the closet for hundreds of years. There were also more Black killings because there are probably more Blacks than their are Gays. Being murdered for being Black or being gay is still being murdered due to discrimnation. I'm not surprised that Black gays are happy with Obama–afterall, they are Black first & gay second. White gays don't have that bias therefore we are not uncomfortable saying Obama has not done enough. I think Hillary would have moved more quickly to get something substantial accomplished for gays. She certainly has within the State Department. |
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| Lianna |
July 16th, 2009 3:08 pm ET This piece entirely misses the point. Martin Luther King said, "A threat to justice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere." This is not about putting each group's sufferings on a weigh scale to see who has the right to complain more. We need to recognize that its the same seed of hate that causes someone to drag a black man behind a truck and for another to tie a gay man to a fence and beat him to his death. When will all disenfranchised folks realize that we have more in common than we do not? It's a shame. Bayard Rust was one of the primary organizers of the civil rights march – a black, gay man. We are all human beings and if anyones rights are infringed then we all suffer. Come on, people. This author needs to be refocused. |
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| Dee F |
July 16th, 2009 3:49 pm ET I found the article very enlightening but also not surprising. As a black person presently living in America, but not having been raised here, it amazes me each day how color conscious most persons are. I don't know when or if this will ever change but I have hope! |
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| Teresa, OH |
July 16th, 2009 3:55 pm ET Am I, the reader, supposed to feel sorry more for someone being gay or black? This article kind of confused me ( it dont take much). Of course, gay couples should have equal rights... who shouldnt? But, really, I dont need to know who you love or sleep with. You know who I think is in the closet about making sure these "rights" DONT get given too soon? Yes, I believe it's the gay folks. Why? The same reason as the straight folks. And to expect Prez Obama to fix everything that is wrong with society's view on homosexuality? oh, my. I would like to thank LZ for clearing something up for me that I have wondered re this statement: "Not to split hairs, but for most blacks, the n-word trumps the f-word" Everyone knows how I try to be so PC. |
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| Sharon,Daniel Island, South Carolina |
July 16th, 2009 5:06 pm ET Hear, Hear , |
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| Cambrian |
July 16th, 2009 5:15 pm ET No, it's worse to be gay. At least blacks can serve openly in the armed forces, and blacks can get married to each other(unless they're gay). And it seems to be okay to say anything you want about gays, but if you were to say the same things about blacks people would be all up in arms. It would help the civil rights cause if people like Jesse Jackson would fight for equal rights for ALL Americans, not just black Americans. That's what I believe in, equal rights for ALL Americans. |
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| Daniel Lock |
July 16th, 2009 5:17 pm ET I think it's irrational to placate the gay rights movement because their fight doesn't measure up to the 400 years of slavery and discrimination of black people. The rationale behind the gay rights movement is at the very essence derived from the civil rights movement, without one we would not have the other. The bravado associated with "too little, too late" is an association with repeating past mistakes. Why should we wait 400 years for progress? The plight of African Americans should be used as a barometer for all forms of discrimination, not just an independent movement unique to one people at one time. Equality is a fundamental right and impatience is not petulance. Impatience comes from the frustration of repeat mistakes and irrational logic that continues to plague or society. Gay is Gay, Black is Black, and Equality is for all. |
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| Ruby Coria LA., CA. |
July 16th, 2009 5:21 pm ET I'm not sure if I will vote for anyone, since we don't have equal rights, how dare our Government preach "Liberty, Freedom, & Justice for all" how dare them send my brother (U.S.M.C.) to fight for our "Rights, our Freedom," & so on. How can I believe in God?, if you say that your God Hates? How can I have sympathy for Blacks & Latinos & other minority's if they vote against "equal rights!" This is 2009, the world is about to end & we are pleading for rights? |
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