Maureen Miller
AC360° Writer
The man accused in the shooting death of abortion provider Dr. George Tiller has been charged with first-degree murder. Scott Roeder, 51, appeared in a Wichita, Kansas courtroom today via a video hookup from jail. Prosecutors revealed today they won't seek the death penalty "under the facts and circumstances that are known at this time." That's what District Attorney Nola Foulston told reporters.
Police say Roeder shot and killed Dr. Tillman Sunday morning at his church, where he was serving as an usher.
Tonight, we'll have all the angles on the case. Don't miss the 360° exclusive interview with Roeder's ex-wife. She says his anti-abortion rhetoric was so strong it scared her. We'll also speak with another abortion provider who was friends with Dr. Tillman. Is he worried he could also be targeted for death? And, we'll talk with a woman who chose not to get an abortion even though she was told her baby wouldn't live that long after birth.
We also have breaking news on Air France Flight 447. Brazilian authorities are reporting tonight they found debris from the jet in the Atlantic Ocean, but no survivors. We'll show you where.
We'll also take you to Little Rock, Arkansas where a man is accused of homegrown terrorism. According to investigators, the man killed one U.S. soldier and wounded another at a military center yesterday because he was angry over the treatment of Muslims. The suspect is a Muslim convert. He pled not guilty to the charges today in court.
Join us for these stories and more starting at 10pm ET.
See you then!
| Isabel, Brazil |
June 2nd, 2009 9:51 pm ET Hi, Maureen! Very sad not to have hope for survivors of Flight 447. It's very sad to know a little history of passengers. Some were working; others were a pleasure ... lives broken and families destroyed. The investigations of the accident will be with France, where the aircraft was registered, but Brazil will be responsible for the search for bodies and wreckage. Very good to know that the murderer of Dr. George Tiller has been charged with first-degree murder. He can to be with an unbalanced person. I wait more in a moment ... the show is almost starting! Thanks |
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| Nick D. Neighbour |
June 2nd, 2009 10:13 pm ET Let's not forget that, to some, Scott Roeder is a bloody HERO! |
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| Kathy |
June 2nd, 2009 10:20 pm ET The killing for Dr. Tiller will not help to promote the cause of the pro- life point of view, though I am a proponent of pro choice, violence of this nature will never convince anyone to change their point of view. Abortion will always be controversial, but it is rarely a 1st choice for most women and is a difficult decision. Many Pro-life believers will often say that they will help you if you have the baby, but when the "rubber hits the road" and the hard word begins, the help is never there. Abortion is a woman's right to choose and women will have them whether they are legal or not. |
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| jesse |
June 2nd, 2009 10:23 pm ET I am Pro-Life. And I have been active in pro-life activities. The killing of Dr. Tiller was uncall for and not what I stand for. I stand for life of the unborn and for the changing of hearts for those who believe in abortions. |
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| bill brady |
June 2nd, 2009 10:24 pm ET this guy is a nut and he killed a good man. |
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| bill mac leod |
June 2nd, 2009 10:25 pm ET I have no use for doctors nurses or women that have or assist in abortions Bill mac leod from Canada |
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| Terry e Akens |
June 2nd, 2009 10:29 pm ET Thank you Anderson for your interview technique and honesty to each person. I am so sorry for the death of Dr Tiller, but I am not sorry for what he had done to so many women who chose to end the life of their baby. |
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| Shari Harter |
June 2nd, 2009 10:30 pm ET Thank you for your interview of Diane Elder, the woman who at one point chose to complete the final 4 months of a pregnancy when it was known that the child would have many defects and would not survive. I am pro-choice, but I found her story compelling and heartfelt. I was touched by her reasoning - to let nature take its course and for her child to die a natural death, not at her hands. It required amazing strength of spirit for such a young woman, such as she was at the time, but clearly she took an intolerable pain and managed to turn it into a spiritual lesson for many, many people - millions more now due to your retelling. It's a good moral. Thanks! |
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| Daniel |
June 2nd, 2009 10:32 pm ET I really appreciate and commend the honesty of the Mother that just spoke to Anderson regarding her experience with her child. What a brave women. The comments she made shed the light into my heart and confirmed what I already knew in my heart that Nature should take the course not us Choosing to Kill A Live Baby. When we abort babies of any age or any stage of life we are playing GOD. The moment that the Sperm leaves a human to find the Egg of the women that is life. The sperm is alive because it moves and it is alive. How could you even think that its not life when it moves. I am very proud of her and her statements. You are so brave and I am so glad you got the chance to Hold your baby girl and give her a name. I hope that many women that just watched you will hear your daughters voice through your voice and will change their mind and try to give their unborn children the chance to LIVE and have a name. |
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| Wanda Jones |
June 2nd, 2009 10:33 pm ET This is sad on both sides. First you have compassion for the babies and you also have to except a woman's right to choose. This is a situation where there is no solution. The death of Dr Tillman is sad especially because it was done in church. The Right-wing are a bunch of terrriost. What was done to Dr Tillman was nothing but terrorism in the US. Even the rightwing network played a big part. They so much as advertised for Dr. Tillman's assination. |
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| Daniel |
June 2nd, 2009 10:33 pm ET No one has the right to take the life of any human. If this guy was against killing then why did he kill? |
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| Pat Ormsby |
June 2nd, 2009 10:34 pm ET Thank you for your discussion of this issue, and the inclusion of guests representing both sides of the issue. Around 1965 I believed I was pregnant and began looking for ways to get overseas to have an abortion because it wasn't legal here and I knew my family would never help me. Luckily, I either was not pregnant or miscarried very early, but I will never forget the desperation I felt, trapped by my own body! I do not want any woman to ever have to experience that horror. No man will ever be able to understand that entrapment. I have been prochoice since then, and will now work harder than ever to keep clinics open so that women have a choice. Thanks again for airing this critical issue at this sad time following the death of Dr. Tiller. |
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| Darla Abshire |
June 2nd, 2009 10:35 pm ET No one deserves to be shot in their own church, but what can one expect after taking the lives of so many? Babies are persons too and should not have their innocent lives shortened because someone thinks that they can take it upon themselves to play God. I was under the impression that Doctors save lives, not abort them. |
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| Sandra Hendershot |
June 2nd, 2009 10:37 pm ET I have not comment on if abortion is right or wrong. My problem is the doctors, who say they care so much about women and their rights. I would have more of a tendency to believe that, if they weren't making a million dollars, and up, each year. Sandra Hendershot, Palm Bay, Florida |
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| Audrey Papke |
June 2nd, 2009 10:38 pm ET My friend told me, crying and crying: she had three prior abortions, and she said it was different this time – so painful. It wasn't like the others. Such a distressed cry and memory of the event. She said she went back three times or so before the doctor would abort. I'm sure she said it happened in Alpena, MI. The baby, as she finally delivered one, . . . the baby she delivered is very normal. I would imagine what sounded like a late-term – that the baby was normal. It hurt. It hurt so bad. She cried so . . . Indescribable . . . one could feel her pain, and that she said there was something so different this time. Her three prior abortions not hurting so desparately. |
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| CC |
June 2nd, 2009 10:39 pm ET While my heart deeply goes out to the woman who spoke today who decided to bring her baby that had a serious defect to full term, I have lost a child before and the pain is unbearable, I think she is being hypocritical. After the child was born she made the "decision" to allow the baby to live or die naturally without letting the medical staff do what ever they could for the baby to survive. This was a personal decision that she made for which she has the absolute right. However, she should therefor not past judgement on other women decision, not everyone could have mentally/emotionally deal with seeing their baby die after birth and perhaps putting thier life at risk while doing so. The point is that this very serious issue is a personal decision for a woman to make. |
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| Mary Steele |
June 2nd, 2009 10:40 pm ET In response to the woman who said her baby, Angela's death was "painless". That was cruel to put that baby through that, I know what it feels like to struggle to breathe, I have asthma and there is nothing painless about it. Disgusted in Virginia! (Mary 757-887-6629) |
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| Cindy |
June 2nd, 2009 10:41 pm ET I was told 16 years ago my baby at 20 weeks had anencephaly which would not allow her to live once born. My doctor told me that "it was a nonviable pregnancy" and would not follow me through the pregnancy. I was basically told I had to abort my baby girl. I did and was devistated. It was the worst decision that I have ever made and it caused me to have a great depression. It took me 6 years to get over terminating my pregnancy. Me personally, I would never do it again. I wish I had continued like the woman tonight did. |
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| Sharon S |
June 2nd, 2009 10:53 pm ET Why Not the death penalty???? HE planned and shot and killed a man in cold blood! Yet this murdering hypocrite gets to live???? This was a Planned murder, so why NOT the death penalty? |
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| Veronica B |
June 2nd, 2009 11:02 pm ET I had an abortion at age 20 and the doctors were very cold, rough and rude. Abortion doctors only care about how much money they can make, they take no time to give you counsel or let you know about the consequences your body goes through. Not one girl in the whole clinic was happy, they were all crying before and after the experience. I deeply regret it and am an active pro-life activist. Abortion has to stop. |
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| Baimaro Kamara |
June 2nd, 2009 11:05 pm ET Hi Anderson I always enjoy your show every night especially when it comes to very sensitive topics such as the odeals that undocumented students do go through living in the shadows in America. |
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| Berell |
June 2nd, 2009 11:07 pm ET First Consider Who Laid The Standard For Whats Right And Whats Wrong You'll See A Correllation Between Ethics And Religion . If A Man Kills A Man Who Has Killed Numerous Of Times Who Is Less Guilty And By Who And What Standard |
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| Ginny |
June 2nd, 2009 11:07 pm ET Please, check your names. Dr. George Tiller (not Tillman) was a hero of women's rights. The government, AMA, clergy, media, all people of sound mind must pubically decry this horrific act of domestic terriorism. Abortion is part of women's reproductive health care, period. Abortion is not going to be available in this country. Why would any young physician choose this field of specialty? The anti-abortion fanantics know this and are successful in their sick thinking; via terrorizing patients, clinic workers, stalking and murdering the graying physicians; using their 501C 'pregnancy crisis centers through which tax payer's dollars are funneled. Why, after 36 years are we still fighting over a woman's uterus? Why don't the 'do-gooders' go to any nursing home and offer help, instead of spewing hate at ab clinics? It's really pretty simple, if you don't want an abortion, don't have one. What happened to 'do unto others' and 'judge not....It's simply not their objective. Fear is a powerful thing. |
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| june |
June 2nd, 2009 11:11 pm ET here we go again, another insanity plea give me a break, so easy to say your crazy come on people wake up |
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| RJ |
June 2nd, 2009 11:12 pm ET Cindy good for you as long as I`m not made responsible for your child! |
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| Lubu |
June 2nd, 2009 11:13 pm ET He is not christian terrorist right? |
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| Mike G |
June 2nd, 2009 11:16 pm ET Ironic, that this man will probably walk on an insanity plea. The laws 'protected' protected the baby killer and now it will have justice on this man. |
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| Brett |
June 2nd, 2009 11:16 pm ET This doctor choose an occupation where he put himself in danger- Just like a police officer it is a high-risk occupation and I'm sure he knew it. |
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| Blair Chafe |
June 2nd, 2009 11:16 pm ET Anderson, if you really want to inform us and be objective, then tell us – or get a medical professional to tell us – what late-term abortion actually entails. Show us some diagrams or something. Maybe it's not so bad. Or maybe it's completely shocking. But no one in the media wants to touch the actual details of what this procedure is. You claimed to want to be objective, just a moment ago. If you're hiding facts from us, you are not objective at all. Blair Chafe |
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| me |
June 2nd, 2009 11:20 pm ET No killing the doctors. |
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| homer |
June 2nd, 2009 11:20 pm ET How is it that Diane Elder can be interviewed without question and the statements she made about her birthing a child with a condition incompatible with life accepted without rebuttle?There is no proof that a newborn,even one with a fully functioning brain,can focus their eyes and make "eye contact" with anyone.How can she say that this infant,who was not given any pain medicine,died a "peaceful" natural death?How can she state that the infant did not suffer when admitting that she was awakened from sleep to witness the "labored breathing" the infant had before "lifting itself up" to take a last gasp before dying"What a lying hypocrite. |
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| lisa |
June 2nd, 2009 11:21 pm ET Too bad Scott's mother didn't have an abortion ! I know women who have had 6 or 7 abortions !!!! Sounds terrible, but it was their choice. Theses women were in their teens when this happened, and now are in their late 30's with children. The bottom line is, what ever the patient and Dr. decide is private !!! |
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| Stephanie |
June 2nd, 2009 11:22 pm ET The brutal killing of Dr. Tiller can only be defined as an act of religious TERRORISM. It important discourage further acts of terrorism by refuting the terrorist religious justification with the doctrine of the Christian church. This will passively remind the Christian Pro-life audience, that the actions of this terrorist are not the will of a Christian God but of a deranged psychopath. If these religious terrorist are Christian, then they must have read the 10 Commandments: “thou shall not kill”. There are no exceptions to follow, no complicated legal jargon, no condition given where taking the life of a fellow human being is permitted in the eyes of God. Now we jump forward to defining testament of the Christian faith, the gospels of the New Testament “The Good News”. To start in Matthew we discover The Beatitudes as Jesus gave us: “Blessed are the peacemakers for they are the sons of God” “Blessed are the merciful for they will obtain mercy” “Blessed are the pure of heart for they will see God” and we (as Christians could go on)…. Matthew 7:1 says “Judge not lest ye be judged”. Jesus taught us that only God can judge human action and that humans are called to live a life of kindness, peace, and forgiveness. Jesus also gave the Christians The Lord’s Prayer (the most important and commonly recited prayer for all Christian denominations) in which we ask God to “forgive us our sins as we forgive the sins of others”. There are countless other testaments to the importance of peace and mercy in the New Testament. If Christians disagree with abortion (a legal and private medical procedure) then they are called by the Christian Church to peacefully offer aid to the women who are faced with this unimaginably difficult decision and to pray for their strength. At the end of the day an abortion is a legal, private, and personal medical procedure to be between a woman, her doctor, and her God. Christians are not to judge these women or their doctors; judgment is to left up to God and God alone. It is a personal affront to all practicing Christians for these anti-abortion Terrorists to be referred to as Christians. They are cold blooded killers who have violated man’s law as well as God’s law. |
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| Walter |
June 2nd, 2009 11:23 pm ET I found the interview with Scott Roeder"s ex-wife to be amazing. Her bravery to speak on such candid matters gave me some perspective to understand how such a horrid incident could happen. My heart goes out to the Tiller family and all those whose lives are touched by this; especially Roeder's son. |
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| Zelda |
June 2nd, 2009 11:24 pm ET Murder is murder is murder. |
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| Todd Larsen |
June 2nd, 2009 11:25 pm ET I'm against abortion except for special circumstances. How tragic it is that someone who had the conviction to save unborn human lives would take a human life. In a way it is a hypocritical action on his part and my heart goes out to the family. Much unneeded suffering all the way around. I do not know how this issue can be resolved. From my point of view life is given by God and is therefore valuable. If we just happened to evolve by random chance and survival of the fittest how does one find value in human life. I believe it is a gift and not a right. If we receive our rights from our creator then they are endowed but if from the state, the state can take it away. Thanks |
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| Jim C |
June 2nd, 2009 11:25 pm ET It's is offensive to a pro-lifer like me when we are all lumped in with the killer of this late term abortion doctor, and blamming people like O'Reilley? Really??. It was a lunatic who did it.!! No different than any other murderer!! Why can't we just put the blame where it belongs! I hold NBC and other media outlets in the U.S. partly responsible for the murder of the soldier at the recruitment facility then. How 'bout that!?! MSNBC in particular did nothing under Bush but blame America for everything wrong in the universe! Not much outrage or even discussion about a Muslim slaying one of our bravest, but let's mourn and try to equate ALL anti-abortion people (most of us in America) are or incite killers!! Just more liberal driven lunacy. |
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| May Steele |
June 2nd, 2009 11:25 pm ET Dr. Tiller killed 60,000 babies- The accuded killed one! Who is the most guilty? Seems like an easy answer to me! |
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| Russ I, CA |
June 2nd, 2009 11:26 pm ET It is this simple, if Scott Roeder is a hero to many Americans then we can all understand why Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad, the Little Rock murderer of two American soldiers, is a hero to many Muslims. I see no difference between the two acts, both acts of religious zealots. Both are equal acts of terrorism; although the charges by prosecutors claerly show the bias as is CNNs news coverage. CNN talks of Mr. Roeder's possible "mental instability" as if it is his excuse and exonerates him, the religious far right, and anyone else who speaks favorably of his actions. There is a far right Christian movement in this country as deadly and dangerous as any Muslim religious zealot. We shall see if this comment is censored like my previous one. |
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| kara |
June 2nd, 2009 11:27 pm ET I was a patient of dr.tillers in dec of 08 and he was an amazing man and he touched my life and i think he was a great man for helping women like me that needed choices. My heart goes out to him his family and staff. |
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| Steph |
June 2nd, 2009 11:27 pm ET It has always concerned me when people are convinced they know what is best, right, or moral for others. Those are only decisions we can make for ourselves. Our opinions about abortion or our beliefs about God's intentions are strictly opinions. |
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| Patricia Humphrey |
June 2nd, 2009 11:27 pm ET I beg to differ with the doctor you had on about all of the late term abortions being due to a birth defect. My grandaughter who cannot have children of her own has adopted two children and on their record it is written by the birth mother the reason for giving the child up was that it was too late for a early abortion. The children are beautiful and perfectly healthy in every way. Had these women been able to get a late term abortion we would not have had these two beautiful children. It breads my heart to think that these two beautiful children came close to being in a trash can. |
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| Peter Bloch |
June 2nd, 2009 11:29 pm ET Thank you for bringing us Diane Elder. I am pro choice. And she and her husband made their choice. Her story is profoundly moving and I salute her strength and her humanity. |
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| xibo |
June 2nd, 2009 11:29 pm ET One of these time when an airliner crashes it will be determined that travel by air is not all it's cracked up to be. God bless each and every passanger that went down with this jet. It may be true that we all die at some point in our life but to die in this manner is beyond normal understanding. Nobody should have to die in such a way and I personally feel that the human race in general needs to backup, slow down, get real and put life in it's proper perspective. |
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| OC |
June 2nd, 2009 11:29 pm ET Only if you have had to make this very difficult decision should you have the right to have an opinion on this matter. |
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| John D. |
June 2nd, 2009 11:30 pm ET In a climate of hate and fear created by the conservative religious right surrounding the issues of abortion, how can we be surprised when something like this happens. |
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| Fern Wiensk |
June 2nd, 2009 11:30 pm ET Thank you so much for your interview with this wonderful human being: Diana. |
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| Pilar Carreon |
June 2nd, 2009 11:30 pm ET Iam impress with the interview of Anderson w/ Diane Elder.What she did is a noble deed and an outstanding example for all Christian women, I commend her and her family. |
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| Carol L. Cox |
June 2nd, 2009 11:31 pm ET This is in response to Daniel's message when he states that: "The moment that the Sperm leaves a human to find the Egg of the women that is life. The sperm is alive because it moves and it is alive. How could you even think that its not life when it moves." Well, Daniel, since you believe that life is the same as male sperm, perhaps we have been focusing on the wrong gender wih this life issue. Maybe we should pass a constitutional amendment stating that all males must wear protective condoms when they find themselves in the so called upright position carrying all that potential life around. But then again, the male gender would not put up with such intrusion into their personal lives. Perhaps the right of privacy would actually mean something to these males then. : |
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| Donna C |
June 2nd, 2009 11:31 pm ET Diane Elder, Your story was touching. May God bless you and keep you and your's. |
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| David |
June 2nd, 2009 11:31 pm ET I can't believe Diane Elder could get on your show and claim that her child did not suffer when she said that the baby had problems breathing. That is called suffering in the medical world. Though I applaud her for making the decision she did but don't claim that the baby did not suffer. |
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| Annie Kate |
June 2nd, 2009 11:31 pm ET I found Diane Elder's story very compelling and one of the best stories 360 has had on in a long time. She was so eloquent in telling her experience and she handled her situation with great courage. Thank you so much for having this woman on the show. |
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| Rosemarie Rung |
June 2nd, 2009 11:32 pm ET The interview with Diane Elder was the best interview ever. So many life messages that transcend the abortion debate. AC managed it expertly and I'll remember it (and learn from it) for years to come. |
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| Cris |
June 2nd, 2009 11:34 pm ET Yeah, that's a very touchy subject now, and I think that regarless of what his (or mine) were about abortion, taking someone's life to prove a point is rather senseless. Thanks! |
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| pat |
June 2nd, 2009 11:35 pm ET This man should be put to death... Why is it people who are so concern with life choose to kill. This lady you had on claiming she choose to keep her baby alive after 5 mos and knowing this child would not live. How selfish can you get?? This was about what she wanted not what was right for an innocent unborn baby. And how does she know this baby did not suffer....she dosen't. |
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| Laine |
June 2nd, 2009 11:36 pm ET Anderson, The Dr. you interviewed didn't even answerr your question about whether he only performs abortions on women whose lives or child's lives are in jeopardy. Shame on you! He sounded like a sleazy politician and you didn't even follow-up. Laine |
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| Kathy S |
June 2nd, 2009 11:36 pm ET What a beautiful story by Diane Elder. Though she and her family suffered, they chose life over death. I commend her for making that choice. |
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| eileen |
June 2nd, 2009 11:36 pm ET Thank you, CNN, for airing the interview of Diane Elder. |
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| Gillian |
June 2nd, 2009 11:37 pm ET The woman tonight who shared her story of NOT having a late term abortion was very moving. As was the woman yesterday who shared her story of having gone through with a late tem abortion because of fetal abnormalities. |
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| Dharris |
June 2nd, 2009 11:39 pm ET Although it is sad that tiller was shot, I can't get over the fact that someone who performs abortions, especially late term would have the nerve to show his face in God's house. And that he was shot on the name of religion is equally disturbing. Both men, both of whom were religious, must have forgotten "thou shalt not kill" |
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| Kristin |
June 2nd, 2009 11:39 pm ET For anyone who supports the killing of the physician, I ask you this. How can you possibly support what you condemned the physician for? In your mind, if the physician was a "murderer", then how is the accused any different? Such blatant self-serving hypocrisy. As I remember it, the commandment is "Thou shalt not kill". Period. |
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| Todd Larsen |
June 2nd, 2009 11:39 pm ET One more comment, I read another bloggers comment and it is interesting regarding a "woman's right to choose" who and where did she get this right from. I'm not trying to be antagonistic but there has to be an ideology behind that statement and I as of yet have not herd the reason for it. A little help. Thanks |
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| lewis |
June 2nd, 2009 11:42 pm ET God judges everyone God also gives everyone the right to choose the way they would go we all have to remember the women went to Dr. tilman for their own personal reasons just as we choose. some of us think their choice was wrong based of our own bible teachings. The man that shot and killed Dr. Timan did he help this situation was it worth hurting his son did he think about what his son will go through the rest of his life what about the wife and children of Dr. tilman. |
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| brandy |
June 2nd, 2009 11:43 pm ET My baby girl died at 32 weeks. i was devestated. she was my first child and my parents first grandchild. since my daughter had alrady died they had to induce my labor. that was more painfull for me then my c-section i had with my son. i would not wish yhis on my worst enemy. if there is anyway possible to save a family the horror of what we went through i hope that they are able to decice what is best for them. While i lay in my hospital bed at 4am on september 9th 2001 my blood pressure was through the roof i had to decide whether or not to have my daughter baptised. whether or not to have an autopsy and last of all make funeral arrangements. That was very hard i was very sick and if felt lke a bad dream that still to this day is not over. |
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| Matt |
June 2nd, 2009 11:43 pm ET I wonder if this guy is competent enough to even realize the nature of this crime, killing this doctor. First of all, does he even realize the history of boneyard abortions doctors used to perform? Second, let's say that abortion truly was abolished, late term anyway.... would it be better for two humans to die, or give the woman a chance to live? |
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| tmb |
June 2nd, 2009 11:43 pm ET I still can't understand how someone can be prolife and for death penalty. Are these people hypocrites or just don't know what is life. |
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| Drew S |
June 2nd, 2009 11:44 pm ET Dr.Tiller performed an Abortion on my girlfriend in 1990. It was very early in the pregnacy;however, it was a hard decision.I wasnt then and still am not a proponent of Abortion,but I belive that it still has to be the Womens choice. |
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| Gillian |
June 2nd, 2009 11:46 pm ET Maybe we should all be working toward creating a world where ALL children are wanted, loved and protected and abortion just becomes obsolete NOT illegal!! |
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| Luie |
June 2nd, 2009 11:47 pm ET Mr. Cooper, I think it was outstanding that you made the effort to show both sides of the late term abortion issue. It shows quality news reporting when any reporter goes the extra mile as you do always. The solution is evident, you just answered the question by showing both stories. The woman who chose not to have the baby and the woman who chose to have those precious 12 hours. The answer is choice, a woman's choice and that choice is between the woman and her beliefs. In a free country, how can the government choose for you? Outstanding report and thanks for doing a great job everyday! Luie |
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| mary |
June 2nd, 2009 11:47 pm ET I am a diabetic, and an OB/Gyne. As a resident, our hospital did abortions at 20 weeks when the fetus was not viable or when the woman's life is at risk. Prior to the procedure, each case was brought before a committee of clergy, ethicists, physicians and nurses and the woman had to interview with them. In other words, these procedures were only doneto save the women's life or because the fetus was not viable. As a severe diabetic who has children and uses birth control, if I became pregnant and the fetus was not viable I would not hesitate to discontinue the pregnancy so that I could live to take care of my other children. Pregnancy if very risky for many women and even birth control is not 100%. These decisions are not made easily and there needs to be a way to save the women's life if that is the decision that the family makes. Either way someone will possibly die, the prolife advocates need to realize they are choosing the fetuses life over the woman's. Also, OB/Gyne's do not make millions of dollars. Many times it is 1/10 of that after years and years of education. |
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| Carr |
June 2nd, 2009 11:49 pm ET i was amazed at the Mother that spoke tonight of having NATURE TAKE IT"S COURSE, whereas a few nights ago when a mother who's son had cancer said the same thing was not allowed to make that choice. The child was forced to take medical treatment, which many cancer patients say they would NOT choice for themselves. Pro-Choice does not mean Pro-Abortion. It means – 'I can't make the decision for you; It is your choice.' God works in many ways. I can not tell a mother to take the life of her baby or let it live whether the baby is in the womb or 13 years of age. My problem is the presentation of Pro-Choice. I do not believe in abortion, but I cannot tell anyone that abortion is not an option if the baby is going to be brain dead or un-loved. Please represent PRO-CHOICE as it is. People that are pro-choice actually are saying – LET GOD MAKE THE DECISION (maybe through the parent). It really is GOD's choice decided through the parent. If we instill the morales, which we have not, in the American society – Pro-Choice really is a good thing for the family and society as a whole. When you 'Display' parents that have babies that are destined to die on national TV, it is their choice to go through that pain and let the baby experience that pain. It may be the choice of other parents NOT to subject their child to such pain. lmc |
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| Elaine |
June 2nd, 2009 11:49 pm ET I have always liked the saying "If you are against abortion, don't have one.' Therein lies the dilemma. Those who do not believe in abortion are determined to force their beliefs on everyone else, and yes there is a faction that are Terrorists. I told my husband when Obama was elected that they would go right back to killing doctors.There are too many different situations involved with unwanted pregnancies to allow blanket regulation by government, as if government is more capable of making this choice than the individual woman. I personally experienced rape by a stranger at age 11, and my family doctor ensured that I was not pregnant, illegal at the time. All of you out there who are so pro life, I would like for you to have been the ones to look a 14 year old traumatized, Stockholm syndromed Elizabeth Smart , as an example only, in the eye and tell her and her parents that she had to have her rapist's baby. Later in life I had abnormal tests showing my third child at 18 weeks likely had spina bifida. For ten days until the tests came back and i found out she was fine, I agonized over this terrible choice. She is 20 now, but still the thought that the government, comprised mostly of men as are most of the Pro Life leaders, would insert itself into my life and take that decision away from me, as if i were morally or intellectually incapable of making such a decision, is just infuriating. Dr Tiller courageously helped women at the most difficult time in their lives. I pray for his family in this difficult time. |
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| Minnie Mouse |
June 2nd, 2009 11:49 pm ET Hi Anderson and America, i was thirteen when my drug addicted mother kicked me out onto the streets., i became a victim of human trafficking. I visited the health department almost everyday as my body was my only means of survival. I was young and ignorant and considered humans to be nothing more than walking talking masses of flesh. People had no feelings about hurting others and feelings never mattered. |
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| Marilyn H |
June 2nd, 2009 11:49 pm ET I just watched the interview with Diane Elder, and while my heart goes out to her on the loss of her child, I can't help but wonder why people need to embellish their stories with details that are completely ridiculous. She stated that when her infant was about to die her breathing became more faint, and "she sat up, and then fell back" and passed away. Well, if this newborn infant "sat up" then she truly was a medical marvel. Please don't insult my intelligence by exaggerating to the point of the ludicrous. It doesn't help your credibility at all. |
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| susan eros |
June 2nd, 2009 11:51 pm ET The woman that chose to have the deformed baby– it was all about |
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| Ryan |
June 2nd, 2009 11:51 pm ET Deciding to deliver a baby and knowing that it had no possible chance of surviving or living a normal life is cruel. People talk about courage, but it does not take courage to see a living being suffer and then say it was ok for it to die naturally. I am pro-choice and it was her decision to have it, but it should not glorified. |
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| Miguel |
June 2nd, 2009 11:54 pm ET People who believe Roeder should get the death penalty are bigger murdering hypocrites than a man who would kill to stop the killing of babies who do not yet have a voice and to whom this government affords no rights. |
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| Monique |
June 2nd, 2009 11:55 pm ET Nobody is allowed to take someone's life,that is the mistake here. |
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| Katherine |
June 2nd, 2009 11:56 pm ET I was so grateful to tune in and view the interview with Diane Elder– It meant so much to me to hear her personal story. I was also touched by how respectfully Anderson listened and allowed the time for her to completely tell her story. It is rare nowadays to see a news program that does not frantically dart from topic to topic as if there is no expectation that the viewers can hold their focus for longer than a few seconds. This is the kind of news reporting that will draw me back to this program. Thank you, Anderson. |
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| Teresa |
June 2nd, 2009 11:58 pm ET Diane Elder was very convincing of her painful path until she disclosed that the newborn infant "sat up" and took her last breathe before she expired. No newborn has the muscle strength to hold its head up– let alone sit up. I think Ms. Elder dramatized this a bit. The pro-life movement will stop at nothing to show that "life" constitutes anything that is created between two humans. Sometimes things go wrong and the dream does not develop. To make a woman bring a non-viable baby into this world is an irresponsible and cruel burden that should only be her Choice. Delivering her baby was Ms. Elder's choice! |
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| Holly |
June 3rd, 2009 12:03 am ET Sharon, I agree 100%! It was premeditated murder, pure and simple. Regarding the whole issue, it is not my right to tell anyone else what to do nor to pass judgment on their decision. Abortion is a medical procedure that is morally neutral. It a decision that is to be made among a woman, her doctor, and her god, higher power, whatever. No one is forcing anyone in the USA to have an abortion, but take away the option and you are forcing birth on women who may not be ready or able for it. The high and mighty rightists and the Vatican are both against birth control (to prevent pregnancy), and abortion (to terminate pregnancy). Sounds like they are talking out of both sides of their mouths to me. Finally, when you "moralists" are so quick to quote the Bible, remember this one, "Judgment is mine, sayeth the Lord." |
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| Diana |
June 3rd, 2009 12:05 am ET My first pregnancy was difficult and I almost died. My first child was born at six months when I went septic because of a simple infection. For months we prayed and were at the edge of human endurance. Every hour was either a defeat or a victory. My child survived with a few medical problems and challenges that we face daily. He is loved. |
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| Rob |
June 3rd, 2009 12:05 am ET I would like someone to please finish the sentence.....right to choose what? Women's right to choose what? I have no doubt that women who have abortions are confronting all sorts of varied issues, all of which are painful. But at what point do we really just talk about what is happening. We are destroying life. We can argue about the viability, medical resons, the use of abortion as birth control etc, but at the end of the day, a life is terminated. You cannot ever get around that. I guess we can't be suprised that in the true spirit of captalism, an industry rises to make billions annually in taking life. Women clearly have the right to choose. They have the right not to be victimized by an industry that does not care about their health or well being. They have a right to be shown an ultrasound so they can be fully informed as to what they are about to do. They have a right to be supported and helped. They just maybe, they would truly have the right to choose. And at some point we might just think about the little life, regardless of health, that might want a choice in the matter as well. If it's a girl, what about her right to choose...... |
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| Michael Schumann |
June 3rd, 2009 12:07 am ET I think this wacko should be charged with a Hate Crime. I see no sound reason that he is not eligible for a possible Death Penalty. As the man haunted Dr. Tiller's Clinic and attacked and killed in public in his Church, why are there no stalking charges? I generally oppose the Death penalty but his is a murder with special circumstances. I would call it an assassination, given its political aspect.. Supposedly Pro-life, this killer had no respect for life or law. |
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| Holly |
June 3rd, 2009 12:09 am ET CC, Both were tough decisions but thankfully, both women had the choice to make them. |
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| Donna Cox |
June 3rd, 2009 12:11 am ET I too was was touched by Diane's story of her choice to carry through to term a pregnancy with a child who was doomed for death. She was obviously very fortunate to be surrounded by a loving and supportive husband and extended family, as shown in the photos. It is unfortunate that all women are not blessed with that kind of strength and support. All too often, women who choose to terminate do so because they literally have no one. |
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| Yvonne M |
June 3rd, 2009 12:16 am ET I saw your story last night of the women who had to terminate her pregnacy due to a defect. I found some of her claim that the pro-lifer's are threating her, I found it untrue and just a big lie. I know women who have had a abortion and not for a good reason like she had. I would understand having to get a abortion for that reason. I myself when I was younger did have one and I haven't had anyone try to harress me! I'm sure it's just a way to blame the pro-lifers who want nothing more than to save lives. Every one deserves to live. One point she didn't touch on are those who do have a abortion, do live to regret it and you never forget! There is actually a support group–Silent no More Awareness. Many of these women have to get cancelling. That's something the government should look into: help fund this. I was pro-choice but now am pro-life. I would hope to get more involved to help women who have had an abortiion.Especially since there is such a large number and I agree with your comment above: It's such big money. A friend of mine who is from Kansas, had mentioned he was excommunicated from a luther church in Kansas. She's on tweiter and she has a video. Something to see–L-Republican. Her video is so accurate. The problem with Dr. Tiller I think he thought he was god. And to do this type of procedure –late term is so risky for the mother– I'm sure many women did not make it, because it's such a risky procedure. All in all, I don't condome this type of behavior and feel sorry for the tiller family. May god bless us all! Thank you for reporting this–I love seeing your show–Great Work! A Fan–Yvonne |
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| mary harris |
June 3rd, 2009 12:30 am ET I am very concerned about the people who reply to such blogs and items. English seems to be a second language, and the ability to discern the issues is minimal. I would recommend that they get coaching help in writing, use the spell check on their emails, and carefully consider what they write. Otherwise, I discount all, or most of all, of what has been written here. |
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| Pat |
June 3rd, 2009 12:31 am ET Dr. Tiller was a man of science and medicine. He performed late-term abortions for women who were pregnant with babies who would not survive or would die painful deaths after birth, he performed late-term abortions on girls as young as 11, rape victims, girls who may not have even started to menstruate, how would they know they were pregnant. Many don't realize the circumstances these women find themselves in – choosing to believe that doctors are just killing babies, and by golly, someone should put a stop to it. People who choose a late-term abortion do so in desperation, not as a means for birth control. Late-term abortions are rare and under most circumstances, medically warranted. The propaganda spread by Anti-abortion supporters would have the public believe that women are going in to have late term abortions because they "simply don't want the baby". Utter and complete nonsense. An emotional argument with little basis in fact, but the American public as a whole is prone to react emotionally rather than to use reason. It's why sensationalism in the media is so prevalent. I wonder if Nancy Grace spent any time covering Dr. Tillman's murder. Nothing steels my resolve more than to see clinics and doctors targeted because uneducated brainwashed fundamental wingnuts go off the deep end. I'm donating more money to Planned Parenthood. A woman's right to a medical procedure shouldn't be up for debate. If men were the ones who took on all the risks, this whole debate wouldn't even exist. Abortion should be rare, accessible, safe, and legal. Ever wonder why insurance companies will pay for Viagra and not pay for birth control? Me too. God bless our misogynistic country. |
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| JoyceH |
June 3rd, 2009 12:32 am ET Hey, is the definition of terrorism, 'when a Muslim kills someone'? Because I noticed that the word terrorism didn't show up on the show tonight until the coverage of the soldiers' shooting. Yes, that was certainly terrorism, but so was the doctor's assassination. It's about time we started calling the intimidation, threats, vandalism, and violence committed by anti-abortion extremists what it is – it is terrorism. |
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| hungry in the south |
June 3rd, 2009 12:35 am ET @Wanda Jones- your a class act. How is that "change" you voted for coming along?? |
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| Lynn |
June 3rd, 2009 12:41 am ET From Fr. Frank Pavone; Priests for Life: Some will listen to those in the pro-abortion movement who try to lay blame for violence on us and who, as one person wrote on my blog, think that saying "Abortion is murder" should be prosecuted because it leads to violence against abortionists. The Church teaches us that we have to look evil in the eye. John Paul II, in "The Gospel of Life", said that we have to call evil by its proper name. This is no time to shrink back from the reality of what is going on every day in abortion. Children are being killed, and the reason it continues is that too many of our fellow citizens are blind to it. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr, in his Letter from the Birmingham Jail, responded to criticisms that the civil rights activists were fomenting violence. No, he said. That's like saying the person who owns money is fomenting the activity of the robber. To expose the violence that is already occurring, to call it what it is, and to sound the alarm that it has to stop, is not to foment violence. The pro-life movement is a movement of non-violence. As Ghandi and Dr. King taught, and as we teach, non-violence is not passivity, and it is not obscurity. It is a force. It is a clear and strong response against violence, in whatever form that violence takes. Let the outcry against Tiller's murder be loud and clear. And let the outcry against the murders he committed – and that other abortionists commit - be loud and clear as well. * * * |
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| Ezigbo |
June 3rd, 2009 12:44 am ET There is a justification for every action taken by a person, but the killing of Dr. Tiller in its entirety is unjustifiable. I can't believe someone who claims to be championing the pro-life cause and claims Dr. Tiller is a murderer, will go out of his way to murder his supposedly 'muderer of children'. What have we learnt from legends like Abraham Lincoln, Mahatma Gandhi, Martin Lurther King, Robert F. Kennedy, etc.? Is this how we press our cause and ideologies? What message are we trying to pass on to the next generation? In a free world like ours, the hipocrisy (which can only be compared to that of the Pharisees in the Bible) is souring; we continually preach a thing and do the opposite. We should be able to respect other people's views and judgements because that's what democracy requires from us; and we ought to apply empathy positively in all our actions, knowing that our rights stop where that of another person begins. Afterall, as Albert Einstein posited, 'only a life lived for others is worth living. That's how we make our world a better place. I sincerely grieve with the family and friends of Dr. Tiller, who was simply acting based on his professional callings, and his patients who acted based on what they felt was best for their life and their family's. This murderer should be made to face the full force of the law, because he didn't respect the life of a fellow human being like him, nor the sanctity of the Church (where he committed his dastard act). For the Pro-Life and Pro-Choice views: proponents of both views to abortion should be allowed to comprehensively argue it out in a non-violent way, and the State should make it's decision by putting all likely situations into consideration; because it's what makes our policies and society healthy. Diversity has made our country what it is today, and since we believe in freedom, we should be allowed to practise it. |
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| Gregg |
June 3rd, 2009 12:46 am ET So you're saying we should kill the killer who killed the killer? |
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| CR in OK |
June 3rd, 2009 12:52 am ET The list of horrible fetal problems and maternal health risks in carrying to term is endless. Women do still die and almost die trying to give birth. So many women and their families are confronted with a nightmare and no good choices or options. The law and politicians must stay out of these issues and decisions. But our government could decrease abortions of "normal" but unwanted pregnancies by offering free permanent sterilization and all forms of contraception to those who want it, and mandating that insurance cover all forms of contraception. As an OBGYN in Oklahoma am continually surprised and appalled that even women with insurance often can't afford their contraceptive of choice. In this abortion "problem", the fertilized egg definitely comes first. Prevention of spermination will definitely reduce pregnancy termination... |
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| d.slayden |
June 3rd, 2009 12:53 am ET I read where dr. tiller's friend ,the dr in nebraska called the guy who killed dr tiller a terrorist...who's the terrorist here the guy murdering thousands of babies who are now being raised by angels in heaven or the guy who stood up for those helpless babies. dr tiller murdered babies all week long and the goes to church on sunday to be an usher...what a hypocrit |
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| Janine from PA. |
June 3rd, 2009 12:57 am ET People who are siding with this shooter should realize that they are siding with someone that his own family calls mentally ill. From what the ex wife has said this shooter did not even do much with his own son yet he thinks he has the right to murder doctors who have given medical services to a woman? Maybe he should have been a good father and husband instead of sticking his nose in where it doesn't belong and get himself help for his mental state. |
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| Mali |
June 3rd, 2009 1:12 am ET Dear Anderson, My son, Isaiah, was induced on 5/28/09 at 6 months old with trysome 18 by doctors recommendation. My husband and I made the decisoion for pre-mature delivery based on the research given to us by our genetic counselor and doctor for the sake of our son. Isaiah had an amphalocele of his liver and organs on the outer part of his abdomen as well as the trysome 18. |
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| Mark L. |
June 3rd, 2009 1:22 am ET Anderson, How about inviting on the parents of women who have died at abortion clinics getting an abortion? |
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| manny |
June 3rd, 2009 1:23 am ET abortion. the problem with america is that it doesn't ask of the ultimate autority of morality....GOD. whie you may get away with immorality within our adulterous and perverse generation, no one who kills innocent life will escape judgment from GOD. When america begins to agree with GOD then it will begin to remove iteselt from HIS judgments. NEVER will we experience blessings from God living in such a state of complete and utter sinfulness. God does not lie, only man does. Thus saith the LORD. Hear and obey HIM, or destroy yourself in sin. YOU CHOOSE. |
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| TLC |
June 3rd, 2009 1:29 am ET I have watched the dr who may take over the practice of Tiller. I personally was a patient at the young age of 19 who did NOT receive counseling in Tiller's office as portayed. In fact, Tiller and his nurse made my then spouse remove me from the basement due to screaming that he killed my babies. I learned as they were giving me anethesia and doing my sonogram, that I was infact carrying twins. I asked Tiller to stop and not to continue but woke up in the recovery area in the basement of the clinic screaming as noted above. Counseling for the mothers considering abortion consists of about 12-15 men and women placed in a large room watching a video. The money is collected and the patients are prepped for surgery. I miscarried one pregnancy following the procedure and had difficulties with my only child before I was forced to have a hystorectomy at age 27. I am aboslutely disheartened that the dr on your show tonight and the staff portray they care about women and their rights. That is absolutely NOT fact, the care they have has to do with the money that is earned by women who have little insight to this procedure. Counseling is not provided, a video is NOT counseling. I pray that very strict guidelines will be mandated to help women make the most appropriate decision in this effort as I am proof that Tiller and his staff did not allow me that opportunity at all and moved me out of the clinic before I was completely awake from anesthesia. I am sickened by the misrepresented information being relayed on Tiller's behalf. |
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| Eric |
June 3rd, 2009 1:29 am ET Dr. Tiller simply provided a choice for women. I am no for or against abortions and I personally would not want the person I got pregnant to get an abortion, but for others, it is their decision. I think people should worry about their own lives and not waste their energy on what other people do with theirs. What Roeder did was an extreme way to protest abortion, a way I view is much worse than performing abortions. My heart goes out to the Tiller family. |
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| kerth celestine |
June 3rd, 2009 1:29 am ET While I don't agree that the man should not kill have killed the doctor, I am not angry that he is dead. He have been killing kids, so I guess he knows how he feels. I will agree if its a life and death situation or if a child is severely damage, abortion is an option but some people have a last minute decisions after a relationship goes bad or just feel that's its their body and they can do what they want . Late term abortion is wrong. |
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| Theresa Rokusek |
June 3rd, 2009 1:30 am ET Abortion is the law in America. One may disagree, but it is the choice of the woman and her doctor, no one else. We would no more condone shooting married couples of different races, people voting whom we think should not have a say in our elections, etc. |
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| Linda S |
June 3rd, 2009 1:32 am ET I do not support the murder of this man. However I cannot be sorry that he is no longer able to murder innocent babies. I feel the difference between his murder and the murder of all those babies is that the babies were innocent and the doctor was himself a murderer. |
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| Cody |
June 3rd, 2009 1:36 am ET Anderson, thank you for having Diane Elder on the show. I believe there are many women that would decide to keep their babies, but its seldom reported. Thank you for showing the 360. |
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| km9038 |
June 3rd, 2009 1:38 am ET you have no idea what it is like to be pregnant with an unplanned pregnancy. a child unwanted and unable to be provided for is a catastrophe. it's a catastrophe to that child's heart when it's mother abandons s/he and the parent never recovers from an abortion. let's not forget the fathers that are the unsung respondents in the situation, too...who easily escape responsibility. They are often too loud in their "anti-abortion" songs when in-fact, truth be told-they are just as responsible but time must take it's course....for responsibility to catch up; if, it does. Many, had an abortion NOT taken place, would have no soap box to stand on. Bless those that make a choice that is hard but sometimes necessary, and THE RIGHT decision, in some circumstances. Let's remember that 70% of our inmates come from Foster Care-ie...unwanted pregnancies and families that can't take care of their children. Let's bless those women that helped pass Roe vs. Wade and pray it's not overturned for the rest of our lives because children that are wanted, are children that are raised healthy both physically, and mentally...because their mothers can love and provide for them. |
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| Ann |
June 3rd, 2009 1:40 am ET I think the phrase ' Pro Life or Pro Choice' needs to be changed to be more reflective of the truth and not so politically correct. The choices are 'Pro Life or Pro Death'. Simple as that. I'm tired of groups or governments hiding their true agenda behind watered down words. The Dr was killed becuase he was a killer. The only difference is he was allowed to kill Legally, as many babies as he cared to. His shooter does not have that same law given right, In the end, while I do not agree with the shooters actions, I do see that maybe there will be a few innocent babies constitutional rights protected. You know... to live! Lets just keep allowing women to be irrisponsible and get pregnant, and then say I have the right to choose. After they have already chosen! Sharon, as you state why not the death penalty for killing this doctor. Well why NOT the death penalty for the DR killing babies. Have you ever read what happens in late term abortions? THey allow the babie to crown, then make a slit into the top of the head with scissors and vaccuum the brains out. This way they can say it was born dead. How can anyone justify that as anything but murder. Horrific, painful, torturous, and terroristic are all appropriate adjectives here. This world is getting worse every day. If we did what was right for the precious little victims, we would have thrown the DR into jail for a trial and then the death penalty, and also given him torture for each child he has murdered! ITs no different then if someone snatches a child from its family and takes it out and murders it. Life is Life. Death is Death. I pray the good doctor will have to face each of his victims in judgment before he is sent straight to hell! |
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| Anonymous |
June 3rd, 2009 1:41 am ET I had an abortion two years ago. There is nothing easy about what goes on behind closed doors in abortion clinics. I try to put my mind at ease and forget about what went on that day, but it comes and goes in waves, unfortunately. I was too young then to have a baby. (Black and white of it.) It was not the right time for me. It was my own fault that I had unprotected sex, I am fully aware of that. I am also fully aware that to you what I chose that day is wrong. But you cannot judge a woman who gets this done. You simply cannot. You do not know what goes through a women's mind, a women's heart... a women's soul. |
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| Stefani |
June 3rd, 2009 1:43 am ET I can't say I've personally had to experience what Tiller's patient's have gone through, but I stood by my sisters side as she questioned whether she should abort her 20 week old baby which was dying inside of her or die with it. Tiller ultimetely saved my sister's life, and also saved her family which consisted of twin 3 year old boys. My heart goes out to the Tiller family. Somebody has to do what he did to save families like he did mine. If not him, then who? I truly feel that he knew what the consequences might eventually be. I know it may sound wrong, but I think he has his spot in heaven. It makes me sick to think that Roeder will live. As a citizen of Kansas, we now have to deal with the fact that we have BTK and the Tiller assassin live their days in our prisons on our dimes. |
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| Jolene in Albuquerque |
June 3rd, 2009 1:45 am ET What a wonderful interview, Anderson! I was deeply touched by Diane Elder's story and her decision to not cut her baby girl's life short. For the few hours that baby Angela lived outside of the womb she brought joy and love to so many, and she was able to be loved in return. Her life, though short, was indeed precious. What joy is there in abortion? |
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| Lori |
June 3rd, 2009 1:48 am ET It deeply saddens me to think that people would go to such great lengths to prove their 'own point'. The person who killed this man, or agree with his actions, are speaking from their biased religious views rather than from a Doctor's point of view, who may or may not have believed in god. What this man believed is besides the point; he was well within his legal rights to be doing what he was doing. After all, this man would not have had a job if it weren't for the individuals who sought him out. This man believed he was doing good, he was helping. He was not a killer. There is a big difference between what this doctor did for a living, and Roeder's successful calculated plot to take this mans life in cold blood. Roeder- you are the killer, you are the murderer. You are not a martyr or a hero. Things will go on as they are, but hopefully steps will be taken to protect people, like Dr Tillman, from religious psychopaths like you. |
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| Shannon W. |
June 3rd, 2009 1:54 am ET Dear Anderson, |
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| Diane |
June 3rd, 2009 1:57 am ET In response to Mary Steele...I am the woman on the show who gave birth to her baby and held her while she died. Angela was given a small amount of oxygen through a mask to ease her passing. While dying is never easy, her death was relatively painless compared to what it would have been like if she had been the victim of a late term abortion. In that scenario, she would have either been pulled apart, limb from limb, while still alive or burned alive with a saline solution. I could not let that happen to her. You say that you are disgusted with what I did but I would venture a guess that you have never seen what the victim of a late term abortion looks like. There are few images on earth that match the horror of it. |
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| Connie |
June 3rd, 2009 1:57 am ET I was very touched by Diane Elder's story. My heart goes out to her and her family. My first baby had Down Syndrome and died at 5 months of age. A few years later, a close friend had a baby with Trisomy 18 and another friend had an anacephalic baby. All of us chose the path that the Elder's did and just loved and cared for the babies. We accepted love and support from friends and family while nature took it's course. (My child is the only one of the three that had a chance at life, but his heart gave out despite medical care). While I personally believe this should be the preferred way to handle such a situation, I understand that not every woman can go through such an ordeal. As a 'moderate' pro-lifer, I cannot see the point in guilting a woman into having the baby in this situation. It's far better just to love and support the woman and her family. Trust me, it's a sad situation no matter how it's handled. |
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| Jolene in Albuquerque |
June 3rd, 2009 1:59 am ET to Mary in Virginia: are you saying that the abortion process is not disgusting and that a baby taking a gasp or two of air is disgusting? Now, THAT perspective is disgusting! |
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| Shanshan |
June 3rd, 2009 2:06 am ET anybody thought about the woman chose abortion did not dare to show her face on TV while the woman chose otherwise went on national TV with no problem. That paints the picture – one of the sides here is somewhat barbaric, so much that regular people are terrified... need we say more? |
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| Mark |
June 3rd, 2009 2:28 am ET Couldn't let Dr. Leroy Harrison Carhart get away with his comment that "abortion is about the heart" & his pin "listen to women." The women I hear are saying "abortion hurts them; hurts families." My wife had an abortion before we met & I have seen first hand her woundedness over these past 28 years. The guilt of a woman who has allowed her own child to be violently murdered leaves a devastating scar. Just Google Carhart's name & you will see the absolutely filthy clinic he & his wife ran. Apalling. Altered a patient chart on February 14, 1991 Engaged in telephone conversations during procedures in 1991 Refused to follow proper infection control procedures dealing with a patient with active tuberculosis June 14, 1991 Fell asleep injecting a patient June 14, 1991. The clinic administrator who first reported these allegations also alleged that Carhart left an abortion patient on the table to go outside and throw rocks at the procedure room window on October 23, 1990. This was when Carhart was doing abortions at Women's Medical Center of Nebraska. I know you love animals, Anderson. Read on. Carhart is NOT the "caring" Dr. of your interview with him.To present him as such is disingenuous and potentially harmful to viewers. Further, many partial birth abortions are induced lasting several days where the woman takes a drug & goes home to start the aborting process. Some end up bringing the dead baby back to the "clinic in a bag...having endured the horrific experience at home alone before their actual termination appointment. Selling of body parts is also a very profitable side business for these Drs. If it sounds disgusting; well it is and more. |
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| Julie |
June 3rd, 2009 2:29 am ET HI Anderson. I have always been pro-choice until more recently. Now I can see both sides of the issue clearly but I am leaning towards a pro-life stance. Maybe it was having children of my own that changed my mind, but I suddenly see that taking the life of a viable fetus is plain murder. And at that point, for me, no amount of discomfort or embarrassment on the part of the mother outweighs the child's right to life. I know that doctors perform these late abortions but I don't really understand how, as healers, they are able to rationalize the procedure of methodically killing a baby. I have yet to hear of a real case where the mother's life was truly at serious risk and the baby was unable to be delivered at all. How many are there? I loved the woman you had on your show, who allowed her daughter to grow and be born and live and die naturally 12 hours later. What a strong woman and an example to everyone, and what a treasured memory she has of those little eyes looking at the world. |
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| T S |
June 3rd, 2009 2:32 am ET Remember, those that think that a woman does not have a choice, you should be in the position to have to choose abortion or not. Nobody wants it, they HAVE to for many different reasons. May the men and women that think that a woman should come to term for any reason that is not healthy experience the same thing and then make their stand. Until, don't condemn another person's choice, Lord knows, there are so many bad men that impregnate women and women ddin't get a choice now did they. Not they when they did their wonders, so they think. Women have the right to end anything that was done to them without their choice, at the adversity of their health and their mental health. How dare anyone make some woman come to term for nine months with a monster in her belly. Why don't you men, come to terms with it???? Or mean women. The choice is that of the woman. Deal with it. |
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| Deborah |
June 3rd, 2009 2:35 am ET With all due respect to the mother who chose to deliver her child with Trisomy 18 which is incompatible with life, she made a choice to bring that child into the world so that it would die a natural death. I do not believe that the baby's 12 hours of very difficult life and her agonal death, as described by the mother's observation of the baby's last breaths, was less painful than an instantaneous death in utero by a physician who is experienced in terminating a pregnancy quickly and mercifully. The mother did "not want to have my baby die at my hands." She knew that the baby could not survive with the condition. She stated that when the baby was born, she and her family were happy. SHE wanted what happened to the baby to be "natural." SHE felt that the resolution was "a very good resolution." With all due respect to this mother who went through a very difficult situation, this was about the mother and father and family, and not necessarily about this unfortunate baby. "We felt clean ... when it was over." "We felt closure..." Again, this is about the mother and the family, and not about the baby. A quick in-utero termination may well have been less painful than delivery and 12 hours of distress and the final agonal death for this unfortunate baby. |
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| WNT |
June 3rd, 2009 2:36 am ET My wife and I had an an encephalic son who lived 13 hours. There was never any doubt in our minds as to whether our child would live or not. In our days X-rays were still part of the pre-birth procedure done 6 weeks prior to the expected delivery date. When I saw the A cousin to my wife, Dr. Peggy Honein, a pathologist working in fetal disorders I believe, works for the Atlantic Center for Disease Control She sent me illustrated literature which made us know that there was no way in which our child could have lived. No way! If a way has been developed to handle such cases now, I wonder whether anyone would choose to live the rest of life taking care of a child with a plastic or metal skull, if even that were a possible option. I suggest, Anderson that someone from the Center for Disease Control appear on your program to discuss the issue with you and to show photos or drawings of birth defects absolutely unimaginable. The child my wife and I brought into the world has never been anything but OUR child. When we talk about our children, he is always included as a member of our family. Always! Incidentally, our doctor delivered Henry in his office so that my wife would not be exposed to a hospital with healthy mothers and children at a time when she may not have been able to stand it. The doctor, a NON- CATHOLIC, baptized our child as it was being born. We are sure he is awaiting us wherever God has taken him. |
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| Rosy |
June 3rd, 2009 2:36 am ET Thank you for Diane Elder . . . what an amazing look and understanding of life. I held my baby girl as I watched the news and saw her spoke with tears streaming down my cheeks. Thank you for her story! |
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| Lawrence Saunders |
June 3rd, 2009 3:22 am ET Please help me to understand! I am a visitor from far away. You define death as the absense of a nature heart-beat and brain waives. Why do you not, (AT LEAST) use the same standard to define LIFE or ALIVE? That is what? 6-8 weeks? When a woman is murdered, (species suicide), while with-child, the husband was charged with 2 homicides. Yet you often argue it, (the life inside) not alive and with no right as a living being. You greave over the human who was shot in a religiouos gathering, as do we, and over each and every life! A religion that confesses that, "God hates the taking of INNOCENT LIFE" Yet, you honor not the religion you confess nor, greave for the 1.4235 million living humands that live inside their mothers, and who are destroyed every year. Dispite of your own evidence, (The Hard Truth & Silent Screams) which prove that these are living, feeling, humans, and that they suffer greatly during this most horrible death, you still persist on destroying them in these MOST BRUTAL ways. Yet ,too few in your society feel little or no pain, discrace for THEM. You speak of CHOICE; yes, it is yours to choose! Life or Death! Which will you choose??? Is it well, that your race should commit species suicide in so many ways and still consider yourself, sane, humane, and worthy of communion with the HOST OF HEAVENS??? |
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| Nameless |
June 3rd, 2009 3:29 am ET In response to Darla Abshire, who said,"Babies are persons too and should not have their innocent lives shortened because someone thinks that they can take it upon themselves to play God." I guess you're against things like antibiotics, life-support, and chemo, then, too, since technically that's man playing God. If you believe in natural birth, why not natural death too? Especially when the person is SUFFERING. I don't understand how pro-lifers can make the above argument and yet ignore the fact that extending life through artificial means is playing God just the same, on the opposite end of the spectrum – even when people are suffering from incurable, debilitating, painful, crippling, and fatal illnesses/diseases, etc. Since you're against abortion, do you believe in artificial life support? Don't get me wrong – I don't think abortion should be used as a form of birth control. And I'm not totally against medicine prolonging life and making it of a better quality (though I am against the medical system basing it's concerns mainly on profits...in other words, they make meds for "chronic" things instead of finding cures – which they are capable of doing and anyone who finds a cure is promptly silenced with threats – since chronic care is more profitable). I also think the right to die isn't something that should be taken lightly, either. It should not be done carelessly and without much consideration. Here is a story that should drive that point home to you: First, read up on Huntington's Disease: Next, read about Carol Carr and what she did for her sons in 2002, after they were incapacitated, in severe pain, and has lost all ability to function, BEGGING her to kill them (after she watched her husband and mother in law die the same horrific, tormenting death): I'm sure people will have vey opposing opinions on it, and I so wish I could find the television show I first saw her story on. It relates the story better than any article I've come across. That poor woman and her poor family. There was no hope at that time and her sons were suffering immensly, crying, and begging to die. To each their own opinion. I just think these kinds of matters get oversimplified. Peace to all. |
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| Nameless |
June 3rd, 2009 3:33 am ET edit to my post re:Darla Abshire's comments. My "Especially when the person is SUFFERING" comment in paragraph 2 was in error, I had went back and reworded/reorganized some points and neglected to remove that sentence, which clearly doesn't make sense there. That sentence was to be applied to Ms. Carr's situation. Peace. |
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| Olga |
June 3rd, 2009 5:59 am ET Currently, abortion is the most common medical procedure in the USA for women. Approximately 1.5 million U.S. women with unwanted pregnancies choose abortion each year. In fact, 43% of American women will have an abortion sometime in their lifetime. Does America want a society of forced pregnancies? Forced motherhood? Who exactly will take all those abandoned, unwanted, unloved infants? Does America want to be Romania circa 1966-1989? If abortion is made illegal, what will be done with these women that break the law? Should 1 million + women per year be sent for jail for having an abortion? How much time should they be in jail? Or should they be executed? What kind of punishment would the children who get pregnant and abort be subjected to? Abortion is not a crime, it is a way of life. Legal or not, good or bad. It simply is, around the world and across the span of time. It will not go away. So lets discuss ways to help women by providing quality medical, contraceptive and family planning services instead. In fact, if you want to see what happens when abortion is made LEGAL, review Romania statistics 1989 to 2006, abortions went from almost 1,000,000 to 149,000 per year. |
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| Helen |
June 3rd, 2009 6:26 am ET I wish everyone could understand how deeply and horribly abortion affects the lives of women and men who abort their babies. I believe that because abortion is legal there is incredible pressure to have an abortion to make the situation "Go Away". Anderson please talk to women who had abortions who suffer from the trauma of taking the life of their babies. This is something that is not explored enough. I would tell anyone "DONT EVER ABORT YOUR BABY!". Find a way to give it up for adoption and you will be happy to look at yourself in the mirror every day for the rest of your life. I wish that someone had stopped me from having an abortion. |
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| Guillermo Aguilar |
June 3rd, 2009 7:34 am ET Just a comment I'm not trying to confuse to any one, but I believe no body have any right to abort , a fetus from day's or week's no matter what is the woman right's in any case ! My question to any one, any Woman or Man should be responsible for request an abortion this massive action's can be prevented in most situation's ?, Yes or No.... |
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| Guillermo Aguilar |
June 3rd, 2009 7:54 am ET I'm not in favor for what this person did, the cuestion is when we going to stop living on the way we living we should be responsible for things like that happen, just look around in honest way we can't control our selfs when we get bery angry, mostly children pay for this kind of action's !...... |
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| Brigit |
June 3rd, 2009 8:31 am ET Sharon S, I agree...it's a total hypocrisy to claim to be against murder but to go out & murder a doctor who is providing legal medical care to his patients. I wouldn't want a penny of my tax money used to feed & house that murdering hypocrite in jail. I also find it disturbing that the anti abortion crowd fights so hard to "protect" life by denying women rights over their own bodies yet they support all the killings of war. So they believe that a cluster of cells not yet viable are more "sacred" than a live human being. I trust that some day, people will evolve to have more respect for women than the misogynistic attitude that is shown every time the topic of abortion comes up. |
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| ronvan |
June 3rd, 2009 9:11 am ET What bothers me the most is that BOTH sides really show no compashion or understanding for others. Their only concern is to use intimidation, rallies, and even threats of death, just because someone doesn't agree with them! And here I thought this was the land of the free where people make their own decisions. As far as this idiot that MURDERED another human being. The death penalty is appropriate but will not happen due to state law, so lock him up & throw the key away! For those of you that openly support this scum bucket I would charge you with complicity & lock you up also! |
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| Vicki |
June 3rd, 2009 9:18 am ET I am a women who has had an abortion and it was the best thing i could of ever done . I do NOT regret it in any way . The doctors and staff that do these procedures help women that have made this choice. I felt at that time I am not ready to be a mother and i do NOT feel comfortable giving my child away in adoption . I did what i think was my best choice and my boyfriend supported me all the way , WE decided that it was the best choice for US. The death of Dr. Tiller will be missed especailly with the GREAT work he did with US as women to choice when we are ready and when we are NOT ready to become a mother. DR.TILLER YOU WILL BE MISSSED. |
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| Gillian |
June 3rd, 2009 9:59 am ET The woman tonight who shared her story of NOT having a late term abortion was very moving. As was the woman yesterday who shared her story of having gone through with a late tem abortion because of fetal abnormalities. |
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| Melissa |
June 3rd, 2009 10:32 am ET bill mac leod is not representative of Canadians. Please don't think that he is. While Canada has its zealots, they are extremely rare. I would like to apoligize on behalf of all Canadians for that behavior as a born Albertan. As for the murder of the doctor, the person that murdered him is a despicable person and I wish they gave him the death penalty. After all, he saw fit to do the same to the doctor. Contrary to what zealots like to think, there is good reason for what he did. |
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| Holly |
June 3rd, 2009 3:43 pm ET Hey insurance companies: How about paying for birth control so unwanted pregnancies don't occur? You sure were quick to allow Viagra to be covered. Hey anti-choice people: How about stepping up to the plate and adopting or paying for all these children you seem to feel should be born regardless of the circumstances by which they were conceived? How about condemning the men who impregnated these women? I only know of one Immaculate Conception. Hey IRS: How about bestowing full dependency status for a fetus from the time of conception for tax purposes? That will sure help the economy! Hey America: It is a woman's body and her choice, and NO ONE has the right to tell her what she can and cannot choose to do with it. |
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| Harry |
June 4th, 2009 12:14 am ET The killing of Dr. Tiller is simply wrong. Yet the killing of the unborn is wrong as well. The violence against women, in the name of choice, is blindly accepted by many who are afraid to allow prenatal images and objective post-abortion impact research on women's physical and mental health to be objectively publicized. This cover-up is wrong. This civil war of values has shed too much blood already. May we at least take the step of requiring INFORMED CHOICE for mother's considering abortion. Could as much money be spent on caring for moms, babies, families as is spent on abortion? |
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