Comments on: In California, justice and 'marriage' prevail http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/26/in-california-justice-and-marriage-prevail/ Tue, 22 Dec 2009 04:00:12 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Mark - San Francisco http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/26/in-california-justice-and-marriage-prevail/comment-page-2/#comment-726042 Mark - San Francisco Wed, 27 May 2009 02:07:37 +0000 http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/?p=39286#comment-726042 As a GBM (Gay Black Male) i'm really worried about todays ruling. I understand how important it is to have civil rights, my parents had to fight for theirs. I think its funny, here I am 40 yrs later still fighting. But what really worries me is, a "majority" vote can take away my rights. Gays had the right to marry before novemeber 4, 2008, that right is now gone. I think as AMERICANS, we should all be really concernced. This is a very sad day in the state of CA and our country. As a GBM (Gay Black Male) i'm really worried about todays ruling. I understand how important it is to have civil rights, my parents had to fight for theirs. I think its funny, here I am 40 yrs later still fighting.

But what really worries me is, a "majority" vote can take away my rights. Gays had the right to marry before novemeber 4, 2008, that right is now gone. I think as AMERICANS, we should all be really concernced.

This is a very sad day in the state of CA and our country.

]]> By: Vince Mendoza http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/26/in-california-justice-and-marriage-prevail/comment-page-2/#comment-725885 Vince Mendoza Wed, 27 May 2009 01:20:45 +0000 http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/?p=39286#comment-725885 I can't believe this is the same court that ruled in favor of gay marriage 1 year ago, and today voted overwhelmingly to keep the Gay-Marriage ban in place.. While i am content it was not a complete loss, i still am angered by the ruling. Marriage is a right that should be granted to all! not just a selected few.. It should not be allowed for a person to vote on another's fundamental right to marriage I can't believe this is the same court that ruled in favor of gay marriage 1 year ago, and today voted overwhelmingly to keep the Gay-Marriage ban in place.. While i am content it was not a complete loss, i still am angered by the ruling. Marriage is a right that should be granted to all! not just a selected few.. It should not be allowed for a person to vote on another's fundamental right to marriage

]]> By: Susan, gay in Texas http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/26/in-california-justice-and-marriage-prevail/comment-page-2/#comment-725849 Susan, gay in Texas Wed, 27 May 2009 00:56:24 +0000 http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/?p=39286#comment-725849 I am so outraged about the failure of this country to protect my rights. The Boston Tea Party had it right, But this time all gay people should refuse to pay taxes. If we don't get equal rights, then by golly we shouldn't pay taxes!!!!!! I am so outraged about the failure of this country to protect my rights. The Boston Tea Party had it right, But this time all gay people should refuse to pay taxes. If we don't get equal rights, then by golly we shouldn't pay taxes!!!!!!

]]> By: Helen http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/26/in-california-justice-and-marriage-prevail/comment-page-2/#comment-725847 Helen Wed, 27 May 2009 00:54:15 +0000 http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/?p=39286#comment-725847 This is an unjust ruling for not only for the gay community but to those, including myself, who support gay marriage and equality. The majority ruling of six judges in CA's court turned down a path that will to provide basic civil rights for gays that any other couple have in that state. I am a Christian and I won't vote for a law that will discriminate a certain "type" of people just because they are a minority who are not "same" as us. Prop8 is promoting discrimination. CA's ruling will inevitably bring shame to those who supported the proposition in the future. This is an unjust ruling for not only for the gay community but to those, including myself, who support gay marriage and equality. The majority ruling of six judges in CA's court turned down a path that will to provide basic civil rights for gays that any other couple have in that state. I am a Christian and I won't vote for a law that will discriminate a certain "type" of people just because they are a minority who are not "same" as us. Prop8 is promoting discrimination. CA's ruling will inevitably bring shame to those who supported the proposition in the future.

]]> By: Sarah,San Jose, CA http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/26/in-california-justice-and-marriage-prevail/comment-page-2/#comment-725842 Sarah,San Jose, CA Wed, 27 May 2009 00:52:50 +0000 http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/?p=39286#comment-725842 Do people really think that people choose to be gay and not born gay in the world we live in. It would be crazy if the law of the world was saying that people could only love people of the same sex, I'm sure that hetrosexuals would find this impossible to do. This is what is expected of the gay community it's unnatural for them to fall in love with the opposite sex. Do people really think that people choose to be gay and not born gay in the world we live in.
It would be crazy if the law of the world was saying that people could only love people of the same sex, I'm sure that hetrosexuals would find this impossible to do. This is what is expected of the gay community it's unnatural for them to fall in love with the opposite sex.

]]> By: Glen http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/26/in-california-justice-and-marriage-prevail/comment-page-2/#comment-725830 Glen Wed, 27 May 2009 00:44:38 +0000 http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/?p=39286#comment-725830 Once the word "America" symbolized the hope of the world. A beacon of freedom, liberty and justice that served as a model for all civilized nations. Now, thanks to those know all of Christs words and nothing of his spirit, the USA has fallen behind formerly fascist Spain and South Africa (less than 15 years after apartheid). Shame. Once the word "America" symbolized the hope of the world. A beacon of freedom, liberty and justice that served as a model for all civilized nations. Now, thanks to those know all of Christs words and nothing of his spirit, the USA has fallen behind formerly fascist Spain and South Africa (less than 15 years after apartheid). Shame.

]]> By: Niki http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/26/in-california-justice-and-marriage-prevail/comment-page-2/#comment-725816 Niki Wed, 27 May 2009 00:35:24 +0000 http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/?p=39286#comment-725816 “laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind as that becomes more developed [and] enlightened.” -Thomas Jefferson One day equality for every American will come. Oppression of a group of people is unconstitutional. Where is our separation of Church and State? Wake up California! “laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind as that becomes more developed [and] enlightened.” -Thomas Jefferson

One day equality for every American will come. Oppression of a group of people is unconstitutional. Where is our separation of Church and State?
Wake up California!

]]> By: Gina http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/26/in-california-justice-and-marriage-prevail/comment-page-1/#comment-725813 Gina Wed, 27 May 2009 00:34:38 +0000 http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/?p=39286#comment-725813 The definition of bigotry works both ways. Pro or con this issue. Those that do no like the outcome of today's decision label ALL Christians and those with religious faith as the enemy. Trying to find scapegoats, I am sure, is tiring. I find that to be bigotry as well. Unfortunately, the groups today are turning into the very behavior they so hate. Maybe if you didn't turn nasty and become children stomping your feet a viable conversation could take place. As it stands now you are the angry mob sad to say. I'm not ashamed of being a native of this state no matter what the outcome of a decision. If you want to vilify California then either move out or stay where you are. It's a no brainer there is it? The definition of bigotry works both ways. Pro or con this issue. Those that do no like the outcome of today's decision label ALL Christians and those with religious faith as the enemy. Trying to find scapegoats, I am sure, is tiring. I find that to be bigotry as well. Unfortunately, the groups today are turning into the very behavior they so hate. Maybe if you didn't turn nasty and become children stomping your feet a viable conversation could take place. As it stands now you are the angry mob sad to say. I'm not ashamed of being a native of this state no matter what the outcome of a decision. If you want to vilify California then either move out or stay where you are. It's a no brainer there is it?

]]> By: Alexandra http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/26/in-california-justice-and-marriage-prevail/comment-page-1/#comment-725780 Alexandra Wed, 27 May 2009 00:19:53 +0000 http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/?p=39286#comment-725780 "...the effort to overturn Proposition 8 “strikes directly at the heart of California’s system of government.” " If the people of California had voted for segregation in elementary schools, would the court have voted to uphold the decision? I think not. Just because a small majority in a select pool of voters is afraid of change doesn't mean the CA supreme court should bow to their heads to this ignorant little group. Yes on Prop 8 voters should enjoy the moment; it's not going to last. Let's just watch New York. "...the effort to overturn Proposition 8 “strikes directly at the heart of California’s system of government.” "

If the people of California had voted for segregation in elementary schools, would the court have voted to uphold the decision?

I think not.

Just because a small majority in a select pool of voters is afraid of change doesn't mean the CA supreme court should bow to their heads to this ignorant little group. Yes on Prop 8 voters should enjoy the moment; it's not going to last.

Let's just watch New York.

]]> By: Lisa in CA http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/26/in-california-justice-and-marriage-prevail/comment-page-1/#comment-725774 Lisa in CA Wed, 27 May 2009 00:18:31 +0000 http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/?p=39286#comment-725774 For goodness sake, the ruling today had nothing to do with gay marriage but whether proposition 8 was an admendment or a revision to the state constitution. If it had been ruled a revision, it would have been overturned. Then those in favor of prop 8 would be screaming about how the Court is overruling the "will of the people". In the next election, there will be an amendment to the state constitution invalidating/overturning/(pick your term) Prop 8. California is used to leading the way. It will not tolerate being left behind. And seriously, if God does not make mistakes and creates man in His image, do you think maybe he created homosexuals possibly on purpose. If we aren't willing to stop overpopulating the Earth, maybe He will force us to. Just something to consider ... For goodness sake, the ruling today had nothing to do with gay marriage but whether proposition 8 was an admendment or a revision to the state constitution. If it had been ruled a revision, it would have been overturned. Then those in favor of prop 8 would be screaming about how the Court is overruling the "will of the people". In the next election, there will be an amendment to the state constitution invalidating/overturning/(pick your term) Prop 8. California is used to leading the way. It will not tolerate being left behind.

And seriously, if God does not make mistakes and creates man in His image, do you think maybe he created homosexuals possibly on purpose. If we aren't willing to stop overpopulating the Earth, maybe He will force us to. Just something to consider ...

]]> By: Richardlew http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/26/in-california-justice-and-marriage-prevail/comment-page-1/#comment-725755 Richardlew Wed, 27 May 2009 00:08:13 +0000 http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/?p=39286#comment-725755 Anderson Thank you for Twittering me @ (lew7rch) and informing me of what NOW CALIF. has done.Well here we go again. At one time in our lives Calif. use to be the leaders and the inventors of new trends, and the other 49 soon caught on, with a copy of what was started in Calif. Today though it seems that Calif is behind the times, Losing a base of new inventions... Sad that now the leaders or maybe not sad that NOW Calif. has to play catch-up with the rest of the Country. They use God for everything that needs to be done in Calif... Well did they ever think that maybe they are having so many problems in Calif. because God is not pleased with what they are doing in his name? Something to think about, Maybe now God is ignoring them in Calif. because they used his name in vain...SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT ! Anderson Thank you for Twittering me @ (lew7rch) and informing me of what NOW CALIF. has done.Well here we go again. At one time in our lives Calif. use to be the leaders and the inventors of new trends, and the other 49 soon caught on, with a copy of what was started in Calif. Today though it seems that Calif is behind the times, Losing a base of new inventions... Sad that now the leaders or maybe not sad that NOW Calif. has to play catch-up with the rest of the Country. They use God for everything that needs to be done in Calif... Well did they ever think that maybe they are having so many problems in Calif. because God is not pleased with what they are doing in his name? Something to think about, Maybe now God is ignoring them in Calif. because they used his name in vain...SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT !

]]> By: yero69 http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/26/in-california-justice-and-marriage-prevail/comment-page-1/#comment-725733 yero69 Wed, 27 May 2009 00:02:26 +0000 http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/?p=39286#comment-725733 How is this an example of justice in denying peoples the right to participate in a social institution because of some fairytale. The myth of heterosexual supremacy, in the 'Land of the Free', liberty is conditional. This is another example in the 60's African Americans stood up for their rights and overcome. Now it will be that LGBTIQS communities will stand up and overcome the ignorance of institutional discrimination. yero69 How is this an example of justice in denying peoples the right to participate in a social institution because of some fairytale. The myth of heterosexual supremacy, in the 'Land of the Free', liberty is conditional. This is another example in the 60's African Americans stood up for their rights and overcome. Now it will be that LGBTIQS communities will stand up and overcome the ignorance of institutional discrimination.

yero69

]]> By: JT http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/26/in-california-justice-and-marriage-prevail/comment-page-1/#comment-725717 JT Tue, 26 May 2009 23:56:55 +0000 http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/?p=39286#comment-725717 This Perkins guy is obviously delusional. He thinks we are surrendering? When hell freezes over Perkie! We'll already preparing our next step, and next year, YOU will be surrendering, when Prop 8 is overturned by MORE than 7 million people. What a moron. This Perkins guy is obviously delusional. He thinks we are surrendering? When hell freezes over Perkie! We'll already preparing our next step, and next year, YOU will be surrendering, when Prop 8 is overturned by MORE than 7 million people. What a moron.

]]> By: Rob http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/26/in-california-justice-and-marriage-prevail/comment-page-1/#comment-725704 Rob Tue, 26 May 2009 23:53:50 +0000 http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/?p=39286#comment-725704 I am gay, am a catholic & i know for a fact not just by faith tha God does love me. Love thy neighbour as you would love yourself, yet all those who claim to believe in God are enticing hate into their hearts and their community. It amazes me that love being the one thing that has existed since the beginning of humanity is being controlled and shut out in such a manner. ...the Lord said "do not use my name in vain"... This is what you anti-gay christians are doing, Jesus was not an american citizen and he was not an American law maker, he was God's son & an expression of his love for us, black/white/gay/straight/whatever... Peace I am gay, am a catholic & i know for a fact not just by faith tha God does love me. Love thy neighbour as you would love yourself, yet all those who claim to believe in God are enticing hate into their hearts and their community. It amazes me that love being the one thing that has existed since the beginning of humanity is being controlled and shut out in such a manner. ...the Lord said "do not use my name in vain"... This is what you anti-gay christians are doing, Jesus was not an american citizen and he was not an American law maker, he was God's son & an expression of his love for us, black/white/gay/straight/whatever... Peace

]]> By: christine http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/26/in-california-justice-and-marriage-prevail/comment-page-1/#comment-725678 christine Tue, 26 May 2009 23:47:00 +0000 http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/?p=39286#comment-725678 I agreed marriage is between a man and woman. Quite simple. I agreed marriage is between a man and woman. Quite simple.

]]> By: anonymous http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/26/in-california-justice-and-marriage-prevail/comment-page-1/#comment-725610 anonymous Tue, 26 May 2009 23:24:47 +0000 http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/?p=39286#comment-725610 Everyone has a right to their opinion, but since I know that God is real, and I know what the Bible clearly says, I know that being gay is wrong. I am not one to go around with signs and yelling at gay people. I mean God does say to love your brother and do not spread hate. You can be gay if you want, it does not affect me, but why do you have to treat it like you are being victimized because you are not given the right to be legally married. You can go have your little ceremonies and wouldn't that mean just as much. Everyone has a right to their opinion, but since I know that God is real, and I know what the Bible clearly says, I know that being gay is wrong. I am not one to go around with signs and yelling at gay people. I mean God does say to love your brother and do not spread hate. You can be gay if you want, it does not affect me, but why do you have to treat it like you are being victimized because you are not given the right to be legally married. You can go have your little ceremonies and wouldn't that mean just as much.

]]> By: Mari http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/26/in-california-justice-and-marriage-prevail/comment-page-1/#comment-725550 Mari Tue, 26 May 2009 23:06:42 +0000 http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/?p=39286#comment-725550 @ JIM........... I am a Christian, and I dare you to find ONE WORD that JESUS said against Gay people. IF GOD really condemns homosexuality, and it is REALLY the abomination you claim it is....... then WHY does JESUS not say ONE WORD condemning Gay people?? Instead IF you read the New Testament, you read JESUS asking us to.... "Love one another....." and asking us (you, also) to NOT JUDGE! @ JIM........... I am a Christian, and I dare you to find ONE WORD that JESUS said against Gay people.

IF GOD really condemns homosexuality, and it is REALLY the abomination you claim it is....... then WHY does JESUS not say ONE WORD condemning Gay people??

Instead IF you read the New Testament, you read JESUS asking us to....

"Love one another....." and asking us (you, also) to NOT JUDGE!

]]> By: Carlos D. Wilson http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/26/in-california-justice-and-marriage-prevail/comment-page-1/#comment-725519 Carlos D. Wilson Tue, 26 May 2009 22:58:40 +0000 http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/?p=39286#comment-725519 So far the coverage on CNN has missed the most impressive part of the stopry on the ruling today. San Francisco police arrested 150 -200 marriage supporters/protesters after the ruling at the corner of Van ness and Grove. It was a huge show of the refusal (rightly i think) of the gay community to acceot this as the final response. I hope you'll pick up the rest of the story before Anderson comes on! So far the coverage on CNN has missed the most impressive part of the stopry on the ruling today. San Francisco police arrested 150 -200 marriage supporters/protesters after the ruling at the corner of Van ness and Grove. It was a huge show of the refusal (rightly i think) of the gay community to acceot this as the final response. I hope you'll pick up the rest of the story before Anderson comes on!

]]> By: Teresa, OH http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/26/in-california-justice-and-marriage-prevail/comment-page-1/#comment-725473 Teresa, OH Tue, 26 May 2009 22:49:31 +0000 http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/?p=39286#comment-725473 I wonder when "gays" will realize they are actually arguing with themselves? : ) I wonder when "gays" will realize they are actually arguing with themselves? : )

]]> By: GBrax http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/26/in-california-justice-and-marriage-prevail/comment-page-1/#comment-725460 GBrax Tue, 26 May 2009 22:46:55 +0000 http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/?p=39286#comment-725460 It's a Human Right not a Religious Rite! It's a Human Right not a Religious Rite!

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