I'm sorry, but this simply smacks of irony. You say that Obama needs to listen as well as speak and then go on to say why your views are completely adamant an unchanging and why anybody who is opposed to them doesn't deserve to be "listened" to by you. Hypocrisy, anybody? Maybe you should take a step back and realize that some people appropriately realize that their religion shouldn't govern everybody else's lives.

This is a LAW that was past over 37 years ago! Why is this still up for discussion. The fact that an American Leader is pro-choice is simply siding with the law... Some people need to keep religion where it belongs.... in the church and at home. He was invited by a Catholic school after all.... Do they expect him to lie in his speech and act like a nearly 40 year old law in place to protect women should be repealed??? Thank whatever is up there I am Canadian!

Why don't people let the Prez speak and then make up thier minds whether or no they have a problem?

Ever read Freakonmics? Giving a woman the right to choose can significantly decrease crime rates in a community. When a woman chooses to abort an unwanted pregnancy, she is often choosing so because she does not have the means to support a child, emotionally or financially. Would you rather force someone to bring a child into this world that she cannot support or pay attention to, potentially creating a criminal or an abuser? That model is often the unstable environment, both for the mother and her entire family.

I would rather my tax dollars go to one abortion and counseling than to pay for a lifetime of welfare or crime from a person who is brought into this world to a family that doesn’t have the time or ability to care for a child.

Why does there have to be such dissention about religion?? And if religion is such a big deal, then why was Obama asked to speak in the first place?? People need to grow up. We can all learn from everyone else – that is why we are different. Embrace it and SHUT UP already!

I think Catholics need to understand that other opinions exist. Not every human thinks like them and sometimes a commencement speech can really only be a commencement speech.

Separation of church and state!

At first I thought, decline invite, it's not worth their drama, and he has more important things to do, Now my view is "How Disrepectful to the United States", Maybe he needs to go and do what he does best, "Teach us Mr President", Why did they invite him??????, they knew his views along with millions of others who are "Pro Choice", this has been settled already!!!!!! people put on your grown up pants, don't destroy this moment for the Graduates

Good words from a sound thinker. Thank you Chuck Donovan.

Regarding Jay Lush who sights the nearly 40 year old law legalizing abortion, perhaps he should consider another historical atrocity that took place in the form of slavery. Just because it was a law, didn't make it right. With respect to where religion should be kept, let us not forget how the founders of the United States allowed their religious practices to influence our founding documents, laws and institutions. Too often people confuse freedom of religion with freedom and abandonment from religion.

I can't imagine why anyone would even think that President Obama would give a graduation commencement speech about abortion or even mention it in his speech. How many past commencement speeches gave reference to abortion?? I can't think of the first one and mine sure as hell didn't! I think people don't have enough to do in their daily lives and that is why this has spiked such an interest. Are we, collectively as a country, so combative that we have to always argue something?? Honestly, I cannot even believe this is such a hot issue. People ought to be ashamed!

Notre Dame is a Catholic institution, and the liberal leadership of the College abandoned the core principles of protecting the Sanctity of Life by bestowing the President with an Honorary Law Degree. Whatever happened to preserving the values of the Church? It is a shame that Notre Dame would rather pander to politics, instead of sticking to principles.

The authors should focus their energies on prayers for the Notre Dame football which will need all the help it can get when it visits Ann Arbor!

What is it with some people who want religion to rule everything in their lives?
Rights for the unborn children are important but so is the womens right to choose.
I don`t think women do this decision about abortion lightly anyway. Let the President speak first and then express your own opinion, please !

Notre Dame has always been known in Catholic circles to be a liberal "Catholic" school. More power to the alum who manage to stay strong and conservative in spite of the place. Obama being honored there isn't a shocker but instead just another smear embarrassment to Roman Catholicism and all she stands for that is good in protecting our planet's most innocent and defenseless. With over 50% of the nation claiming to be pro-life, it might be worth listening to the majority voice. Then again, why should this president listen anymore than the last one did?

This isn't the President's fault...he accepted the invitation. This is Notre Dame's fault...they just should have never invited him. His approval of abortion, partial birth abortions and using tax money to perpetuate this is why he is not an acceptable speaker. Do I believe the invite should be rescinded....no....too late. Do I believe the invite was from a democratic religious person....yes...and when we have people in Christian Universities who put politics over their faith...that's a little creepy.

Give me a break! These polite platitudes do nothing more than pit Church against State. Yet the folks at Notre Dame darn well knew it and the only remaining factor to consider is what politican juice could Notre Dame receive by having extended the invitation in the first place. This is a no brainer!

Some of you still don't get it. This is not about Obama being invited to speak, this is about the school giving him an Honorary Law Degree. They wrote in into their laws a few years back. People who do not believe as they do are not eligible to recieve Honorary anythings. PLAIN AND SIMPLY.

I would think the fact that the President of our fine COUNTRY was willing to take the time and speak, at their Graduation ceremony, would be an honor. It's pretty obvious that somebody from Notre Dame wanted him to be there. We all have our own beliefs/opinions, in this country and the good old Catholics haven't been so Holier Then Thou themselves, of late.

I'm wishing President Obama a good weekend. God Bless You Mr. President and God Bless America

Shame on Notre Dame proclaimed as a Catholic school. Did they run out of speakers to let a pro-abortion president to speak at the graduation?

Can he really speak, I mean say something about how he feels about an issue... or is he simply going to read somelse's words from the teleprompter again?

I am just appalled at Notre Dame to invite our pro-abortion President to speak at their commencements – and give him an honorary law degree to boot! Catholicism and principles come first – at least they should at a Catholic college like Notre Dame. Shame on Father Jenkins and all the other University staff who had anything to do with this – they will answer to God.

As an Independent who voted for Barack Obama, due to horrid alternatives, it has always been disconcerting to continually see most members of the media give him a pass on important issues.

He objects wholeheartedly to the use of waterboarding when used on terrorists who helped kill thousands yet then argues in defense of abortion and partial birth abortion; huh? say what?

Save the terrorists some pain but take an unborn's life? rather odd.

Please, Mr. Bush spoke there... as have many others that believe in the ending of a life by the death penalty. Catholics in theory are against this as much as they are about abortion. Why not the outrcy when previous presidents, especially Bush, who allowed many deaths to be carried out by death sentences being approved.

Seperate what a government does from what our indiviual religions teach us. Mind you own store.

He will pass judgement in the end, NOT US!!

Amen ! Terry, good point, Texas is known and brags about leading the Nation on putting people to death, with Bush approval.(Another Story) The President has enough experience, and Educational background to give this speech!, they invited him him to give it, and now they're looking very silly with all this drama going all, people have the right to believe what they believe, while honoring and respecting the views of others

My niece is graduating from Notre Dame this weekend. And her parents, who are very conservative Catholics, and Notre Dame alum, are attending the graduation. They are planning on walking out in protest during Obama's speech. It is their right as Americans to protest any way they choose. However, he is the elected president of our nation and he deserves respect. I think my niece should be excited that such a significant figure will be speaking at her commencement. And I applaud that Obama is choosing to speak at an historically conservative university. As far as the honorary degree goes, I can guarantee you that many a Notre Dame graduate has been pro-choice and "liberal". I love our nation because we can think freely. Neither our government nor our churches can dictate our beliefs. It is possible to be a pro-choice catholic or a pro-life democrat. Its time we stopped thinking as members of politcal parties or members of a religion and just started thinking for ourselves.

President Obama's pro-choice stance does not necessarily equate to pro-abortion. No one is out there forcing anyone to make a choice to terminate their pregnancy. Perhaps if the Catholic Church was providing a more loving outreach and realistic options instead of demonizing such women who find themselves in less than ideal circumstances, said Christians wouldn't need to rely on the courts to cause a woman to birth her child. This is a serious cross for a woman to carry – please stop throwing rocks and consider displaying some grace.

It's Ironic that people who consider Pro-Choise as Pro-Abortion. That doesn't leave any room for discussion. Are people who are Pro-life, anti-Death? How do they justify war or Capital Punishment? Like..It's OK to kill people because you don't like them or you feel afraid of them? But if you're raped or a victim of incest, you can't have a choice? How many 'cubby holes' do the anti-abortion people have? Where do you get the 'right' to decide other peoples fates? Are you Gods? or more than 'godly'?

All the uproar about Pres. Obama speaking at Notre Dame is rediculous. The question I haven't seen asked on CNN or any other major network is "Why all the display of anger against Pres. Obama when former Pres. Clinton was also pro. Choice." I think it's more racial than it is about his view on abortion. The Catholic church is really showing how not to love or agree to disagree. They are really showing a double-standard!

I invite anyone who is in favor of honoring a pro abortion president to spend some time in front of an abortion clinic on an abortion day. You probably have driven past the clinic many times and never realized that innocent life was being sacrificed there. To honor a president who strongly promotes the killing of innocents at a Catholic university seems terribly wrong. Instead , Notre Dame should be speaking the truth in love to our president.

The protesters don't like a black man speaking there! thats all it is. They should be ashamed of themselves, but just like the KKK they rap up their uglyness in religion. They never protest a white president speaking!

How sad to see so many people screaming for their "right to choose death". And how sad to see a Catholic institution like this one, compromising the principals, of the people that has chosen to be part of it.
Every one that enrolls at Notre Dame knows it is a catholic university . . . or have lost our right to choose our beliefs?

Why didn't you folks wail and cry when pro-choice Condi spoke AND received an honorary PhD from ND?

You folks are disgusting opportunists.

Notre Dame asked Pres Obama to speak not the other way around.

For all you Christians out there: Jesus himself said that his Kingdom was no part of the world. When the people tried to make him King he withdrew to the mountains. Jesus didn't get involved in the "politic's" of his day. The government or "Kingdom" that you pray for in the Lord's Prayer is God's Kingdom (or government), not man's governments. If you believed in what you pray for you would look to God and his Kingdom to solve the problems, not man.

President Obama gave a thoughtful and inspiring speech at the Arizona State this week. The speech itself was a great lesson for the graduates and faculty. I am looking forward to his two speeches today. It is a shear joy to listen to what he says. it is amazing that so many talents reside in a single person. I hope the students at Notre Dame will keep their minds open and give President Obama a warm, hearty welcome and take full advantage of his presence. That is how religious and educated persons should behave. Thank you.

I do not think that Obama should have been invited (grave error in judgment on their part), but given the circumstances, he should have simply changed his mind about appearing there. Because of his anti-pro life and pro-gay stand, as well as many other issues, he will never be accepted by Notre Dame supporters. Her is nothing but a Marxist of the worst kind, i.e. one who devalues human life. We have seen this before in human history. Never nice!

Notre Dame is NOT a "state" institution, but a PRIVATE school, founded and funded by individuals whose values concerning life President Obama has stridently opposed. Of course, like all Americans, Obama is free to support his own views. But that a vociferous opponent of Catholic values would be INVITED to speak to the graduates on their special day is strange beyond words – and a sad reflection of the schizophrenic society we now inhabit.

Great letter. It's truly a shame that Obama is speaking at this school despite the school's heritage and beliefs. But then again... he's our President... despite our nation's heritage and beliefs. Sadly. If I were a graduate, the LAST person in the world I would want to give my commencement address would be Obama. Not everyone is in love with this man. Not everyone appreciates his bulldozing his liberal policies through in our nation, including policies that promote and further abortion. Sadly. But, Obama doesn't care about those at Notre Dame who are outraed ast his speaking there. He does what he wants and what is best for him. That's how he is, and I am counting down the days when he is out of office!!

Presumably all those protesting President Obama receiving an honorary degree will also be protesting any degrees that are awarded to undergraduate or graduate students at Notre Dame who have similar views to our President. Hypocrisy abounds here.

Cathi O i can't believe what you ended up with. All this about the President, and then you add such a disguisting comment. Kids do as they are taught, what does this have about ABORTION?

As a Catholic, I am disappointed in the shallow interpretation of the practice of the faith within the narrow confines of one social issue while ignoring others. The Catholicism I know takes a broader perspective regarding social and moral issues in relation our responsibility to the world community and the practice of Christ's teachings.
Pres. Bush used the pro life position to garner votes while ignoring broader social and moral issues(i.e. an immoral war in Iraq, refusing to deal with the real consequences of poverty, ignoring the consequences and loss of life due to millions not having access to healthcare.)The Holy Father even opposed some of the Bush Administration policies.Yet he was welcomed by pro-lifers as a pillar of morality.
Pres. Obama is coming from a broader moral and ethical position that mirrors the Church's position more closely. Perhaps,that is why Pope Benedict is silent on the ND issue and some clergy are also coming from a broader perspective. You cannot resolve abortion without addressing the broader issues that impact that decision.

Catholicism takes a broader perspective regarding social and moral issues in relation our responsibility to the world community and the practice of Christ's teachings.
Pres. Bush claimed a pro life position while ignoring broader social and moral issues(i.e. an immoral war in Iraq, refusing to deal with the real consequences of poverty, ignoring the consequences and loss of life due to millions not having access to healthcare.)The Holy Father even opposed some of the Bush Administration policies.
Pres. Obama is coming from a broader moral and ethical position that mirrors the Church's position more closely.
You cannot resolve abortion without addressing the broader issues that impact that decision.
Roe vs Wade can only be overturned by the Supreme Court and that requires a case that has the merit to challenge the ruling.

Mr. Obama, our President, is just going to give a commencement address to the graduating class, he's not going there to change the church's principals or beliefs. Isn't this the same religion that some of it's own priests has molested and sexually abused some of their own religion's alter boys and children? They've covered for some of the priest to avoid bad press, even though it is well known that it has happened. The Catholic church has perservered. I think they can withstand a speaker that does not always share their views. All religions have people that don't share all of their views, it one of the reasons we have freedom of speech, and freedom of religion. He believes in a woman's right to choose, it 's obvious with his own family that's not what he chose.

Dear Chuck and Teresa
Voiceless, are you kidding us all?
I suggest you carry out to the maximum possible two things:-
First your faith. I do not agree with you but will defend until death your right to pursue it to the fullest extent of your beliefs. I hope you can return the compliment.
What precisely is your definition of "civil rights"? Only those which your particular faith/ religion proscribes? If the answer isReligious conviction to the first part and yes to the second part then, with respect ,that becomes bigotry, because the Jews, muslims,protestants are all wrong in certain respects.
Equally as I understand "civil rights" they are granted to ALL the people. The point is, that even if you disagree ( with some civil rights) you can exercise your basic human right to behave as your religious persuasion demands meaning no abortions, not allowing the use of your stem cells, ex communicating gays etc etc.
Its called tolerance and Love thy neighbour.
You can and do "voice" your legislative desires, as do opposing groups, and must equally respect Notre Dame for unconditionally allowing President Obama's constitutional right to the same level of free speech as you have. He cannot legislate alone he has to have a congress agree. It's called checks and balances.
If there is aproblem here it is only Notre dame's timing.They should have waited a while, and then done what they have done repeatedly in the past.
Regards,
Hodgson.

The President did not invite himself to speak. If there is any party the pro life movement should be upset with, it would be the university instead of Obama. How rude to invite someone and then make such a big to do about his agreement to accept the invitation. Could it be that the university actually planned to use this situation to call attention to the abortion issue and attract more news coverage of their protests?

This has nothing to do with religion, race or politics. This has to do with what is right and what is wrong. Abortion is WRONG!

Two points: This is about inviting someone to speak at a commencement ceremony who has views 180 degrees from the principles upon which Notre Dame was founded. Would David Duke be invited to speak at a black college without outrage? I doubt it. It's all about principles.

Secondly, I would just like one answer from those who support abortion, particularly those who support it at any time during the nine month gestation period. Why is it that when a woman is pregnant and wants to be, she's having a baby. But when she doesn't want to be, it's not a sustainable life? It's either a child or it's not . It doesn't change because someone is unexpectedly pregnant. I'm all for a woman's right to choose. But she needs to make her choice before she has another life growing within her. I was in that situation in my early 20s, so I'm not standing on the outside of this subject throwing opinions that I've never dealt with myself.

to Tarja in Finland – what good is Christianity if you don't let Jesus rule your life? Would you be doing well to say from one side of your mouth, "I love Jesus" and from the other say, "I believe people have the right to kill their own babies"? That would be madness, would it not? Jesus said we could not eat from the table of God and from the table of demons.

Obama should never be invited to speak at any Catholic institution until he changes his views on abortion and embryonic stem cell research. What kind of message does this send to Catholics who do not understand that we are called to be pro-life? What kind of message does this send to non-Catholic Christians who don't know about Catholicism? What about the message it sends to non-Christians; we say we're pro-life but it doesn't matter if you don't want to be.

Some people say they don't understand the outrage- I'm wondering where all the outrage is.

To say that we should listen to what he says before deciding is hypocritical. Where are such people, heads in the sand? What President Obama does in encouraging a culture of death, taxpayer-funded no less, speaks so loud who can hear what he claims?

His actions and decisions say he's for death.

If the bi-laws of Nortre Dame are suppose to be adhered by anyone who speaks, why was Obama given a free pass to impose his thoughts and agenda on this graduating class. He has his right to his personal beliefs. But, he does not respect other faiths it is all an act to persude the citizens of the United States and both Political Parties that his method of leading will heal our Land. God help us all.

Still having a tough time figuring out how abortion is "choice" but waltzing 6,000,000 Jews into gas chambers is genocide and abortion is not genocide?

Obama...Kenyan for "murdering media created charlatan thug"!

Hey Obambi, have ya figured out that your European pals in the G-20 played you fr the fool you are? Where is all there support for Afghanistan? THAT is now YOUR WAR. Americans fightin for opium growers, warlords and Sharia Law. More Obama Tax Dollars well spent!

ND=Non-denominational. Or how about Notre Shame?
While pro-life can be identified as a Catholic position, certainly it is not only a Catholic issue. Moreover, identifying pro-life as a singularly religious position represents a distortion: this is a moral issue because abortion takes a human life. I don't need my faith to tell me killing a human being is wrong–my conscience does that.

Leishu, on the other hand, why should Christians take the back seat and let the left dictate what we do, or do not do with our religion??
People of faith are being downtrodden and if things keep going in this direction, we will not be able to worship in our own churches!!
Our country was founded as a result of people who were tired of being downtrodden because of their religious beliefs.
Guess wnat is happening again! Where do we move, to once more start over????? There are 2 sides to this. You have a right to your beliefs, and I to mine.
Why can't we each go our way with our own standards, and get along and not force our standards on the whole country???? Think about it.
I just want to be able to worship with my own beliefs, without being told I cannot , just as I am sure you do.
We are not trying to force our standards on anybody, but just want to preserve our beliefs.

Thanks for the article, CNN! As a person who took many years to come round to a pro-life position, I'm thrilled that there's so much discussion. It is not about whether something is legal! Slavery was legal before the Civil War. Rounding up and exterminating Jews was legal under Hitler. Is life in the womb human life to be protected? Religion says "Yes," but it is not just about religion. It is about a value – life – that elevates a society. Since when do we kill people because it is inconvenient, we are not emotionally ready for them, or we cannot afford them? Valuing life in the womb moves the choice question where it belongs – before sexual intimacy!

Sorry Terry not the same. The Church has defined abortion as intrinsically evil (always wrong). Although Pope John Paul II spoke against capitol punishment, and how it is carried out in the US could be argued as morally wrong, the Church allows for it in certain circumstances. The Church does not teach as you have claimed. Please read the Catechism of the Catholic Church.

If Norte Dame's bi-laws states; that a speaker, must adhere to
these rules including President Obama. tWhy was he given a free pass?

His disrespect for Human life and the incoccent unborn babies killed each day, is outrageous.

He has his right to his personal beliefs and choice of faith.

However, he does not respect the citizens of the United States of America, it is all an act from Obama. His intentions
and agenda are to persuade the House of Rpresentative and Senate that he will serve and heal our Land. God help us all!

This all started when the Roman Empire usurped the mantle of Christianity. Now all the modern denominations of Christianity are lead by false prophets. When I see a Priest, Minister, or Preacher on TV, I see a self serving false prophet trying to gain wealth and political power for themselves.These are the very forces that had Jesus tortured and killed to maintain their political and financial positions. How can someone be pro life and still support the death penalty, war, and torture? Most who claim to be Christians are just the followers of Anti Christian false prophets. They do not follow the teachings of Jesus. It is my opinion that there are very few true Christians on earth today. Mat 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. 2 Tim 4:3 For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. 2 Pet 2:2 [NIV] Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. Mat 7:15 -18 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

I pray for all those who are respectfully protesting Notre Dame's loss of Catholicity. May many more faithful Catholics and Christians have the courage to stand up and be counted!

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God bless America.... I have confidence that the God I choose to place my faith would not condone the taking of ANY life at ANY stage. Fetus or death row. The invite for President Obama could serve a positive outcome if Obama is willing to listen but he is a president with an agenda- is protecting life one of them? The school should have stood up for its own values and perhaps invited Obama to attend a national town hall or debate on campus versus honoring him. I support our country's leader with prayer and that is it. Obama is not the bail out so many in this country are aching for. We have shifted the morals and values of this country in a direction that eventually will need to be righted. "...if my people, who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face.. then I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land." 2 Chronicles 7:14 This indeed was word for an ancient country in ancient time, but just as fitting for today and for us. So Linda B from GA I agree with you God Bless America. Perhaps He will when we start to honor Him with our lives, our values and our laws.

Thank God, some Catholics remain firm in their resolve to defend human life from conception! It's very sad that more Christians are not so convicted!
Here's my theory. When God is banned, more and more, from our schools and society and His loving limits are no longer respected, the foundation for our Constitution is destroyed.
I realize there are those who will say our country was not founded on a Judeo-Christian base, but it was.
When God's law is no longer allowed to stabilize our lives, and we, obviously, need laws, whose laws, then, will take their place?
I believe it will be those who are the most powerful, determined, influential, who will force their notions of right and wrong upon the remainder of us. THAT should send chills up our spines! I believe that's what's taking place today and it's VERY serious!
We've seen the consequences of the godless, secular governments and it isn't pretty. Our founders didn't want the state to dictate that a person adhere to any given church, but they clearly, by their actions and words, did not intend for Americans to dismiss God from our society.
Even so, Notre Dame is a religious institution. Why should they adhere to the liberal ideology I understand is common in many secular institutions?
I'm glad to hear Norma McCorvey and Sandra Cano are showing their support for the pro-life effort at Notre Dame this weekend. They are the ladies who were USED to pass the laws allowing abortion and partial-birth abortion and, I understand, they are actively speaking out against these laws.

The issue here is the school has decided to give him an Honorary Law Degree to a person who is not in agreement with the Catholic Religion. The people who will be able to show their approval or disapproval will be the alumni and those who make donations to the school. They will be the ones to determine if ND will be a school with the true Catholic beliefs or one that is going to do what it wants and puts politics before religion.

It's not just abortion, but a man who staffs his cabinet with people who oppose basic Christian morality, who supports and promotes homosexuality and homosexual marriage, who supports hate crime legislation which will endanger honest Christian testimony, who is pushing so much legislation that undermines the basic foundations of a Christian society - for a school that claims to promote Christian values to invite such a man to speak on its campus - US president notwithstanding - is unconscionable, indefensible, and destructive to its own cause.

It used to be an honor to have an uncle who graduated from Notre Dame. However, with the current University President, it is no longer an honor. I'm just grateful that the Graduating Senior, who do not approve of Obama receiving an honorary degree, have been allowed to have an alternate ceremony. Their choice of a commencement speaker is Fr Frank Pavone, who has already given the commencement address at Ava Maria University and Christendom College this year. Obviously the students' choice of commencement speaker has been much more appropriate than Fr Jenkins' choice,

The unborn are innocent. To take the life of an innocent is the highest form of a hate crime. To punish those who have commited a crime is a just punishment. Many have become so desensitized by the evils in our society and know not the difference.
God is in control of the World and will allow people to have choices.
This is God's way of loving us. To agree with the Word of God, truth is born in us, this is eternal life.
Presidents, politics and all else will fail.
So keep your faith in the right fight students of truth at Notre Dame and press on to your higher calling in Christ Jesus. Amen

The contributions (or lack of them) to Notre Dame in the next several years will let Jenkins and the other liberals who invited Obama know loud and clear about what the conservatives think of their decision. By the way, the majority of contributions to universities and charities come from conservatives, not liberals!

There can be debate in good faith as to whether a particular case deserves the death penalty or as to what our policy should be in care for the poor. The churches teaching is clear in the catechism. However, there is no debate as to whether the unborn are deserving of Life, no debate at all. Liberals have to being to debate these topics with honesty and resist the urge to name call. Obama was asked to speak at ND so that a dialogue could take place. I heard no dialogue from Fr. Jenkins or Pres Obama. I guess Pres. Obama idea of compromise is just to kill a fewer number of unborn babies. The Donahue's analogy to slavery would be appropriate here – A liberal Democrats compromise in 1860 would be just to have fewer slaves.
If abortion, just as in slavery, is intrinsically evil, then no abortions should be allowed. There is no compromise on this.

WHOA! Talk about your culture of death. Hey Cathi how about culling out the old and sick next? The retarded (including yourself), the unemployed. What next Cath – the Jews???

Heil Cathi!

Quoting Cathi O

Ever read Freakonmics? Giving a woman the right to choose can significantly decrease crime rates in a community. When a woman chooses to abort an unwanted pregnancy, she is often choosing so because she does not have the means to support a child, emotionally or financially. Would you rather force someone to bring a child into this world that she cannot support or pay attention to, potentially creating a criminal or an abuser? That model is often the unstable environment, both for the mother and her entire family.

I would rather my tax dollars go to one abortion and counseling than to pay for a lifetime of welfare or crime from a person who is brought into this world to a family that doesn’t have the time or ability to care for a child.