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March 27, 2009
The war crimes debate in Israel
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An Israeli tank maneuvers during a deployment near the Israeli border with Gaza.
An Israeli tank maneuvers during a deployment near the Israeli border with Gaza.

Octavia Nasr
CNN Senior Middle East Editor
AC360° Contributor

It was meant to be a private meeting in which Israeli soldiers talked with military school graduates about what it was like to fight in Gaza. They talked openly - more openly than anyone expected - about their frustrations and experiences that they compared to crimes. Some critics have now called them war crimes that should be prosecuted.

It was an extraordinary meeting.

"At first the specified action was to go into a house. We were supposed to go in with an armored personnel carrier called an Achzarit [literally, Cruel] to burst through the lower door, to start shooting inside and then ... I call this murder ... in effect, we were supposed to go up floor by floor, and any person we identified – we were supposed to shoot. I initially asked myself: Where is the logic in this?

That's one of the statements from Israeli soldiers that that a leading Israeli newspaper, Ha’aretz, published under the headline “Shooting and Crying.”  The soldiers' names were changed to protect their identity. None claimed that they personally committed any excesses. But for many Israelis, their comments have been shocking.

One described an army commander ordering unarmed civilians "taken out" for no specific reason. Another story describes a woman and her two children being shot at when they took the wrong path.

Israel Defense Forces Chief Gabi Ashkenazi categorically denied that soldiers harmed Palestinians in cold blood. But the soldiers' testimonies made headlines in Israel and around the Arab world.

The response from the Israeli press varied. An article in the daily Yedioth Ahronoth by Daniel Edelson provided accounts from other soldiers rebutting the claims generally- but not addressing the specific allegations. He quotes one soldier saying, “It is true that in war morality can be interpreted in many different ways, and there are always a few idiots who act inappropriately, but most of the troops represented Israel honorably.”

It’s time to believe the war crimes allegations.” That's the headline of an edtiorial by Amira Hass, a prominent Palestinian affairs reporter for Ha’aretz. Hass questions why most Israelis reacted to the published allegations as if they’re hearing them for the first time. IDF Chief “Ashkenazi, like other Israelis, could have read the Red Cross' protest during the offensive, that the IDF prevented medical teams from reaching wounded Palestinians by shooting at them. He or his aides could have gone to the website set up by Israeli human rights organizations, which was full of reports and testimonies.”

Israeli human rights groups such as B’Tselem, known for their criticism of Israel’s activities in the Palestinian territories, called on the Israeli Attorney General to “Stop whitewashing suspected crimes in Gaza.

Hersch Goodman is an Israeli military affairs analyst. He told CNN he didn’t consider the testimonies reliable and didn’t think they would harm Israel’s image. He told us, "There is a huge difference between a soldier misbehaving or three soldiers misbehaving or even a company of soldiers misbehaving because they are in an environment of killing and shooting and […] a State misbehaving.”

“If soldiers misbehave as per the newspaper article, you put them on trial," Goodman said. "But if the army as an institution used forbidden weapons, if the army as an institution targeted medical personnel, if the army as an institution targeted medical facilities, these are charges or these are things that really Israel will have to work on defending.” It is unclear from the transcript Ha’aretz published whether the soldiers were alleging misconduct just by specific soldiers or also by the army itself.

In the view of Arab media, this is a case of we told so. Complaints of major human rights abuses during the Gaza offensive were a daily part of reporting by Arab networks such as Al-Jazeera and Al-Arabiya. Both networks deployed local reporters inside Gaza as well as in Israel and provided their audiences with daily reports from both sides of the conflict. Although they brought in Israeli officials as guests, their reporting was emotional and focused mainly on the suffering of Palestinians as a result of the incursion.

Now the focus is on the latest developments – Al-Jazeera hosted yesterday an official from the international organization Human Rights Watch to discuss his group’s latest report, which accuses Israel of “repeatedly firing white phosphorous shells over densely populated areas.”

The Israeli army says it will investigate, but says it only used phosphorous as a smokescreen – not a weapon.

On the Saudi-owned Al-Hayat newspaper, an editorial by legal analyst Mahmoud Mubarak condemns both Israel and Arab governments: “Israel should be condemned for its crimes in Gaza,” Mubarak wrote. “Arab governments should also be condemned for being silent.”

And then there are the political cartoons. On the Saudi-owned London-based Asharq Alawsat, a cartoon of an Israeli soldier pointing his finger to his head as if shooting himself in the head. The testimony of Israeli soldiers, it suggests, will prove most harmful to Israel.

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Annie Kate   March 27th, 2009 8:44 am ET

For a country whose people diligently remember the suffering the Germans inflicted on their sect in WW2 and the pogroms in other European countries before that, Israel is the last country in the world that would think would ever be associated with war crimes especially war crimes which sound remarkably similar to what they and their parents sufferer at the hands of the Nazis.

Whether it be one soldier or many soldiers who participated in these actions or officers who ordered the actions, it does reflect badly on Israel. While some will say that Israel cannot be compared to the unspeakable evils of the Nazis, 1 war crime against 1 person is 1 too many. I hope the UN will investigate the reported crimes as a unbiased mediator and submit their findings to the world at the UN. If Israel has a small problem or a large one, the problem should be resolved immediately and the promise of "never again" should be given by the state of Israel. IF Israel does not do this, the US should pull their support of Israel. As a citizen of the US I do not want to condone or support a nation who would commit acts such as these. .

Blake   March 27th, 2009 11:22 am ET

It's about time a major news network picked up on this story. It seems like every country in the world other than US has been talking about this for a long time now. Kudos CNN

Mari   March 27th, 2009 11:35 am ET

What Israel did to Gaza in its last attack was downright evil, no less so than what the Nazis did to the Jews in Europe! Shame on you, Israel!

Lior, Israel   March 27th, 2009 12:27 pm ET

And now we should talk about the war crimes of HAMAS : Over 180 Palestinian rockets strike Israel since ceasefire...

Michael "C" Lorton, Virginia   March 27th, 2009 1:30 pm ET

One can never justify war--only condemn it.

dennis   March 27th, 2009 1:32 pm ET

yes, the rocket attacks should definitely stop, but you don't want to start comparing numbers or talking about people shooting unarmed fisherman trying to earn a living or farmers being attacked in their fields.

randy perry   March 27th, 2009 2:03 pm ET

Lior, you seem to forget that is is Israel, that prevents the Palestinians from food, water, medical help, and have been under strict embargo. When the occuplier, has food, water, medical, and can live in freedom, while the occupied, have done, then Israel should expect a few rockets. Israel treatment of the Palestinians is very close the Nazi treatment of the Jews. "Think about That for one minute.

Blake   March 27th, 2009 3:42 pm ET

To bad only 1400 Palestinians were killed versus the 13 Israelis... only 3 being civilians and those are figures from Haaretz. Even if each of those rockets had killed 1 person.... the numbers would still be staggeringly shocking.

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