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October 30, 2008
Joe the Plumber – A No Show!
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Dana Bash | BIO
CNN Political Correspondent

During my regular morning call to McCain headquarters to see what’s up for the day, an aide told me we would finally see Joe Wurzelbacher – Joe the Plumber – appear with John McCain.

McCain’s entire closing theme is based on Wurzelbacher’s curbside encounter with Barack Obama over taxes. But Joe’s never been to a McCain rally.

About halfway through McCain’s first speech in Defiance, Ohio, however, I realized Joe wasn’t there. I called the aide I had spoken with in the morning, who told me that in fact Joe wasn’t going to be there after all.

Unfortunately, no one told the candidate.

As I was hanging up the phone, McCain started to yell for Joe, who he thinks is in the crowd.

“Joe’s with us today. Joe, where are you?” McCain called the into the crowd, “Where’s Joe? Is Joe here with us today? Joe, I thought you were here today (pause) All right, well, you’re all Joe the plumber, so all of you stand up and say – I thank you.”

Ooops.

It was an awkward moment.

McCain aides called it a “miscommunication,” but once I got on the bus I called Wurzelbacher myself and asked him what really happened.

He told me that he had hoped to come to the morning rally, but that no one from McCain’s campaign ever called him back to confirm,

Bigger ooops.

He said he had heard McCain yelled for him and he wasn’t there, and Joe was “not happy about it.”

It turns out, as soon as camp McCain realized the error, they sent a car for Wurzelbacher and raced him to hook up with McCain’s bus caravan, which was making its way across Ohio.

Shortly after 2pm in a sunny, picturesque town square in Sandusky, Ohio, McCain was speaking to a crowd under a Gazebo and called Joe’s name.

This time, he answered.

He jumped on the stage, and the crowd went wild.

“All right guys, I didn’t prepare anything. The only thing I’ve been saying is just to get out and get informed. I mean really know what you’re talking about when you’re talking about it,” Wurzelbacher bellowed.

“Don’t take everyone’s opinions. I came to my own opinions by research. Get involved in the government. That way we can hold our politicians accountable and take back out government. It’s all ours.”

The only problem is that McCain started to speak before those of us in the press traveling with him got in…
and many of my colleagues in TV and print missed the joe moment.

Afterwards Joe worked the ropeline, shaking hands and signing autographs for voters there to see McCain.

And now Joe is doing something those of use in McCain’s traveling press corps haven’t been allowed to in months.

He’s riding the Straight Talk Express…as we followed behind.

By the next stop in Elyrie, Ohio, camp McCain seemed to have finally worked out the kinks. Joe finally, explicitly endorsed McCain.

“Vote for a real American,” he told the cheering crowd, “John McCain.”

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Susan   October 30th, 2008 5:03 pm ET

“Vote for a real American……..” That just about sums up McCain’s entire campaign. To suggest that some of us are UN-American because we happen to disagree with the few plans he’s even given is truly dishonorable and disrespectful of a large groups of Americans. I have a question for you: “Who is John McCain?” Enough hate, enough lies, enough economic woe!

Obama/Biden for America!

Susan in NC   October 30th, 2008 5:06 pm ET

Guess we’re all paying for Joe’s travels these days, huh? Joe the Plumber is a joke!

Mike, Lake Worth, FL.   October 30th, 2008 5:11 pm ET

Sat it ain’t so Joe. WHAT A JOKE! McCain pins his campaign on Joe”the frigging plumber”?!!!. Weak!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Roy   October 30th, 2008 5:13 pm ET

I wonder how much the are gonna pay him to do what he’s doing it’s beginning to turn into the circus be we’re all getting to see if for free.

Cindy   October 30th, 2008 5:16 pm ET

So, Joe didn’t show huh? That is too funny! But hey we all make mistakes. Funny though that every little thing McCain or Palin do is reported on yet Obama and Biden get a free pass. Biden has done gaffe after gaffe and I’m sure Obama’s had problems with that teleprompter he can’t go without. Yet we never hear these things in the media.

Cindy…Ga.

MPalalay (California)   October 30th, 2008 5:23 pm ET

“Vote for a real American,” he (Joe the Plumber) told the cheering crowd, “John McCain.”

All these “real” American…”Real America”…rhetorics emanating from the McCain-Palin camp, and now their latest follower, Joe the Plumber, sound like the makings of a very divisive and exclusionary administration if they are indeed voted to the White House. Are they implying that anyone “different from” and “differing with them” are simply “fake,” “not genuine,” “inferior,” and unqualified”…Americans?

How about talking about “real” votes come November 4? I just wonder if they will change their language then.

Tammy   October 30th, 2008 5:25 pm ET

Hasn’t ‘Joe the not-a-plumber’ used up his rediculous 15 minutes of fame?

This ‘Joe’ aka ‘Joe-I-don’t-pay-my-taxes’ is a complete utter joke. Joe should go home, go to work and pay his taxes!

OBAMA/BIDEN 08!

Brandon WA   October 30th, 2008 5:31 pm ET

I’d be interested in hearing where Joe The Plumber does his “research”, cause I’ve heard him say some idiotic things.

Joethecampaigner   October 30th, 2008 5:32 pm ET

What price did McCain paid to hire the plumber?

Jeff   October 30th, 2008 5:34 pm ET

Has anyone bothered telling Joe that, considering the extent to which his fears are skewed towards paying taxes, he’s campaigning for the wrong candidate? Buy the dream company or not, Slow Joe would get a better tax cut under Obama’s plan (when Joe asked the question about his fake plans that ‘caught Obama off guard’, he didn’t understand that the fake net value would be far under the mark where he, under Obama’s plan, would theoretically have had to pay a few hundred dollars, – that’s right Joe, only the portion that goes above the ‘Obama limit’ gets the higher tax rate – in other words, Joe needed to make a fake story about a much more expensive company, one that no one like him will ever be able to buy, an one whose owners would never be hurt by the most ‘liberal’ of taxes).
Or maybe a more simple path to the Joe problem would be to ask: has anyone bothered telling Slow Joe that the tax plan he’s supporting is already in place and has been for a number of years. It obviously hasn’t helped Joe buy that company, and from what I understand about his current situation, it hasn’t helped him at all. In other words, it’s not a question of convincing people that it’s a scam and won’t work, but rather that it DIDN’T work. One thing that it did do was aid the process by which we got burned into paying 700 billion to the same people to whom Bush/McCain did give/want to keep giving the bulk of the tax-break benefits. I’ve forgotten the estimates from years ago warning us of the cost of Bush’s plan, warnings that are real now. But I’ve seen reports by independent tax institutions for the McCain version: just a hair under 1.5 trillion. Isn’t 700 billion enough to give to these people?
But getting back to Joe, maybe he’s not so slow. Not long ago, I told myself that there’s no stretch of the imagination that could see Joe doing better under McCain’s plan than under Obama’s. I’ve suddenly realized that there are 2 ways, the first not really a stretch, the second a slight one, that Joe could join the McCain tax club: he could make campaign speeches for money or even run for office ; or, he could sue McCain for making a fool out of him by not telling him that Obama would be better for the real Slow Joe as well as the imaginary company-owning Joe.

kerri sengstaken   October 30th, 2008 5:35 pm ET

My husband and I have always been independent voters. We also own a successful business which puts us in the upper category that will pay more taxes under Obama’s plan. We are not rich, although we have lots of money flowing in— it just flows right back out to the 60 families that depend on us for jobs, insurance and 401k’s.

We actually thought that we might vote for McCain. Then the ridiculous antics created by the McCain campaign started—the choice of Palin, Joe the Plumber, the terrorist association crap……come on. Anyone with an education and a reasonable mind would doubt this man now.
We know he’s a good man—but now he shows that he is a weak man. He had us—-then he lost us. We will pay more taxes and happliy support someone more presidential. The US needs strong leadership and new ideas—-not old school politics.

Peter Wood   October 30th, 2008 5:38 pm ET

Joe is probably hiding from the IRS. Tax evader and moron #1!

Paul   October 30th, 2008 5:38 pm ET

Joe the Plumber is NOT a plumber. He is a crook who claims to be a plumber. He fails to pay his taxes.

Like McCain and that awful women Palin, he is a mess.

Keih in San Diego   October 30th, 2008 5:39 pm ET

7 minutes, 37 seconds of fame remaining.

Verow75   October 30th, 2008 5:39 pm ET

This is how he intends to run our country? With lots of Ooppsies? Hell no! I voted already, and I voted for change!

Jenna   October 30th, 2008 5:39 pm ET

Can someone please explain to me why this man, Joe the Plumber, continues to be relevant?

Adam   October 30th, 2008 5:39 pm ET

I don’t like this “vote for a real American” nonsense. Now Joe the Plumber is Joe McCarthy!

Ann   October 30th, 2008 5:40 pm ET

Is this for real? What a joke. Now the man who wants to be President of the USA is depending on a plumber to get him elected? Wow! Frightening! Go Obama…PLEASE!

Lisa   October 30th, 2008 5:40 pm ET

Sounds to me like Joe the Plumber had to be coached. Now, I can’t help but wonder if he was paid.

matt   October 30th, 2008 5:40 pm ET

“Vote for a real American,” he told the cheering crowd, “John McCain.”

argh disgusting, because if your name is Obama Hussain, or if you are anything other than white, then you are not a “real” American? – speaks of xenophobia/racism to me.

In my book (and apparently most Americans) Obama truly defends the values of the Real America more than McCain.

Troy Fugnitti   October 30th, 2008 5:41 pm ET

This seems more like a dog and pony show. I do like Joe’s comment about taking the government back. I think Americans should start holding there elected officials accountable for everything they do. If we don’t like what they are doing. VOTE them out. Truly a government for the people by the people.

Ken   October 30th, 2008 5:42 pm ET

This is ludicrous! Although I neither align myself with either party, I see more solutions coming from the Democratic Party than the Republican party during this presidential campaign. All I associate with McCain and Palin are negative attacks. Palin should have never been selected as his running mate.

I hope for the Republican Party’s sake that they change these strategies and start to look at solutions and talk about hope instead of fear because fear, is a deterrent for progress. And believe me, we cannot afford to fail to come up with innovative ideas or we will get left behind in the world.

Let’s go U.S.!
I am putting my bet on Barack Obama and Joe Biden!

Jack Berlin   October 30th, 2008 5:42 pm ET

If McCain can,t run a campain how do you think he can run a country ??

Carl Las Vegas Nevada   October 30th, 2008 5:42 pm ET

Well, Obviously communtication is not a strong suit for the McCain campaign.

You have to laugh…

Lorrie   October 30th, 2008 5:43 pm ET

Joe the “no-show”

Dina   October 30th, 2008 5:43 pm ET

Joe is doing what Sarah plans to do next. Ditch that old fellow!!!! He’s TIRED OLD and got THE SHAKES. Go home McCain twitch your toes spend that money and relax your nerves. Let a fresh face do what this country hunger for a NEW HORIZAN IS ABROAD. We can not afford another 4 years of lies, promises and let downs from a rich man. Who don’t understand what we middle class and below is going through, Im sorry. If Obama is not our next president AMERICA is in TROUBLE. Bush game over!!! We want a great future with our new president OBAMA. I know this and Joe the plummer knows that too. He had his moment, he used you McCain and Sarah will follow. Just wait til Wed. you will learn OLD MAID!

Jordan   October 30th, 2008 5:43 pm ET

haha, McCain is such a joke. Maybe next rally Joe (who isnt a plumber and who’s taxes wont go up under obama) will be calling Barack a Lier and a Terrorist.

Jack Berlin   October 30th, 2008 5:43 pm ET

PS tell Joe to pat his taxes

Amanda   October 30th, 2008 5:43 pm ET

I’m so sick and tired of this “real American” crap. For all his talk of “reaching across the aisle,” John McCain sure has allowed his VP and other surrogates take the lead in calling Obama (and in many cases his supporters) less American and less patriotic.

Annie Kate   October 30th, 2008 5:43 pm ET

If this wasn’t so ridiculous it would be funny. Is anyone running the show in McCain’s campaign?

Annie Kate
Birmingham AL

Gerardo Ramirez   October 30th, 2008 5:44 pm ET

You mean the McCain campaign forgot to coordinate with the Plumber’s publicist? Joe must have been busy working his country music CD and book deals!

Jamie   October 30th, 2008 5:44 pm ET

Is Joe the Plumber really like most average americans? I mean if he is going to be making more than $250,000 a year I think he is a heck of lot better off than average…

Es   October 30th, 2008 5:44 pm ET

This is so fitting. THERE IS NO JOE THE PLUMBER! ;)

JP   October 30th, 2008 5:44 pm ET

That’s the craziest thing I seen and heard from the so called Joe “the plumber.” He really can’t afford to buy a business that net profit exceeds $250,000 but thinks John McCain tax plan will benefit him. I believe he only make $48,000 or so and he and his family will benefit better under Barack’s tax plan. Talk about naive.

R.L.   October 30th, 2008 5:45 pm ET

Oooops! There goes the entire McCain campaign. The entire campaign was built on “Joe the plumber”. I guess Senator McCain was really upset that he didn’t get his morning “Joe” for his rally. Doh!

stan   October 30th, 2008 5:46 pm ET

I like it when they make McCain look like a goof ball.

Enough   October 30th, 2008 5:46 pm ET

What a joke! This man is not even a licensed plumber and ALL he is interested in his own personal gain. I don’t know of anyone on “Main Street” that has a publicist!! I am sick of tired of this guy and he doesn’t have a story that is appealing at all. Unlicensed plumber who owes back taxes to his county and who had no intention of buying a business since it was even for sale.

Gabriel   October 30th, 2008 5:46 pm ET

This is all way, WAY too surreal for me. Is he planning a 2012 run with Palin? Palin / Plumber 2012?

Joey Thomas   October 30th, 2008 5:47 pm ET

This guy is not a plumber, he is a plumbers helper, he does not carry a union card nor does he have the proper skills to be a plumber. He owes back taxes, he should worry about paying those, not to mention his child support, a dead beat father much like McCain was to his first children!!!

erica   October 30th, 2008 5:47 pm ET

I love anderson but this incident is so dumb i cant belive people are falling into this rap again a “REAL AMERICAN” what does that mean?

Heather   October 30th, 2008 5:48 pm ET

Thanks for giving us a behind the scenes look at this tripe I just wish the rest of the American population would refuse to be so easily manipulted

LaVerne Lewis   October 30th, 2008 5:48 pm ET

I guess folks in Ohio haven’t heard yet, Joe is NOT a real plummer. He’s paid by McShame and company. Makes $40K a year and doesn’t pay his taxes. Was that why the crowd cheered?

kristina   October 30th, 2008 5:48 pm ET

As opposed to the “unreal American?” Joe the Plumber gets a new name. How about Joe the Idiot? Obama 2008

james   October 30th, 2008 5:48 pm ET

What a pitty that McCain has to try to get someone like Joe to Endorse him to make his statement. McCain cant even stand on his own words and has to have someone like Joe stand up for him.. Way to go Joe, I think you had the message the first time, until you let McCaines goonies talk you into actually endorsing McCain.

Niko   October 30th, 2008 5:49 pm ET

Pleas can we leave Joe alone…! I had enough of this guy…

Presley   October 30th, 2008 5:49 pm ET

“I mean really know what you’re talking about when you’re talking about it”
OK Joe, the next time I need a “Real Plumber”, I’ll be sure to ask them if they are in fact a “Real Plumber”.
Aren’t his 15 minutes up yet? Haven’t we already established Joe is not in fact a plumber but a guy with a middle name of Joe?
And this is who McCain thinks is an amalgamation of Mr. Main Street, U.S.A.?
Please.

Hannah Stevens   October 30th, 2008 5:51 pm ET

Vote for more wars, staying in Iraq forever to keep those no-bid contracts going, more tax cuts for the rich and the oil companies, and nothing for the middle class. McCain wants to keep the bush legacy alive and you can help him do it if you vote for him. Just look how well he has run his campaign. Just look at the person he selected for VP after one 2 hour interview. You can have more people like that running our government….INTO THE GROUND.

The contrast is stark. McCain wants to fight, fight, fight!! Obama wants to bring us together.

Maggie   October 30th, 2008 5:51 pm ET

If you are running for President you shouldn’t need props. You should be able to talk about the issues yourself. Are you that insecure McCain that you need Joe the plummer.

Marine Vet   October 30th, 2008 5:51 pm ET

Vote for a “real” American???

What, because Barack is black and has a different political ideology than Joe, he’s not a “real” American??

I am so sick of this Bush Republican dividing of our great nation. I put my vote for Obama in the mail today and I only hope that he can heal the people of this country and stop the petty bickering and accusations.

Steve   October 30th, 2008 5:52 pm ET

What in the world does this idiot mean by “real American”? What is Senator Obama?

Jessica   October 30th, 2008 5:53 pm ET

Is this guy a bigot? “A Real American” what black people are not real Americans? Does that mean I am not a real American either.. because I have a tinge of color???? This Joe the Plunger needs to keep his mouth shut if he can’t say something uniting and not dividing!!!

Salam   October 30th, 2008 5:53 pm ET

The battle is over ready McCain should wait for another 4 years maybe

j stewart   October 30th, 2008 5:54 pm ET

Must be the blind leading the blind-a presidential candidate who is so out of touch with reality that he has a suppossed plumber who really isn’t, who wants to buy a 250k company that that is really a 100k company that he can’t afford anyway, who owes back taxes and has just hired a publicist to try and get him a book deal and a country music recording contracty and this is a “real person”. God help us to elect a Obama and send the rif raf packing.

Mir Kahn   October 30th, 2008 5:54 pm ET

Vote for a real American? Whats up with that? It’s not like Obama is a citizen of Israel or Palestine. Besides, the Pail chick seems more supportive of foreign governments and their interests instead of ours.

Joe is regurgitating what he hears on conservative, head in the sand, talk radio – that’s all he is capable of. Even if he had something prepared, I don’t think the McCain Brains would let him say anything.

NJF   October 30th, 2008 5:54 pm ET

It will be interesting to see how much Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin care about Joe the Plumber…Wendy the Waitress…Frank the Factory Worker or any other blue collar worker or lower middle class person after Tuesday (win or lose). Joe the Plumber has become a tool…He is a caricature of “conservative values” and I find it quite sad that a candidate for the U.S. Presidency relies so heavily on others (Gov. Palin…Joe) to articulate his values and beleifs.

Eric French   October 30th, 2008 5:55 pm ET

“Vote for a real American”. Yet another brainwashed hick who somehow believes that Obama’s not a “real American”. And people wonder why the rest of the first world laughs at us?

Chris Harris   October 30th, 2008 5:55 pm ET

Joe is not a plumber. At best he’s a plumbers helper. So John Mc, get it right, he’s Joe the Liar.

gina, toronto   October 30th, 2008 5:55 pm ET

wow, his 15-mins is still not done….

George   October 30th, 2008 5:57 pm ET

If this is any indication of how a McCain administration would run the country, Obama is right. It would be four more years of Bush if not worse!!!

Can someone please ask Joe the Plumber EXACTLY what does he mean by “Real American.” PLEASE PLEASE ask him which citizens are NOT “Real Americans” and what does it take to become a real American in his eyes.

jk   October 30th, 2008 5:58 pm ET

I dont understand why people get excited when they hear the name “joe the plumber” seriously is it just a big joke on John McCain’s part…

only in America can a plumber be recognized as a politician
In fact that is what is wrong with our country… the average joe is able to contribute to candidates polices and people go along with what a nobody has to say….where i come from.. you just cant instantly be made a hero, you have to earn it..

john mccain has the status as being a hero but it doesnt mean he has my vote

Katherine   October 30th, 2008 10:51 pm ET

Oh, please. This guy is milking his 15 minutes of fame for every nanosecond and the McCain campaign is totally exploiting him for whatever they can get out of it.

He’s not a licensed plumber and there was no way he could even dream about buying the company he worked for. He set out to bait Obama and now he’s an RNC celebrity as a result. He’s all they have. I say let them have him. They mocked Obama for his celebrity but they aren’t above using celebrity themselves.

McCain doesn’t care about American citizens. Campaign first. Country last.

JoeThomas   October 30th, 2008 10:53 pm ET

Well since there is Joe the plumber, Tito the builder, I’ve figured I’ll be JoeThomas the Electrical Engineer, although I still don’t make over $250,000 nor do I think Joe the plumber nor Tito the builder would ever be able to make that much.
Nevertheless, we as Americans we need to open our eyes and look to the future, Frankly, I don’t care who Obama associated with 40 years ago, nor do I care about McCaine service record, that was all in the past; we can’t change the past nor can anyone, but, this much I know… we all can change the present and make sure our future will not be like the last 8 years.
It is time we as Americans send a message to both political parties and let them know, that when you failed us…. we will stand together and NOT take it anymore.
Is Time for a Change,
It is time for us Americans to be what we were, and what we will be, the Strongest and the most United people in the World.

LYNN   October 30th, 2008 10:58 pm ET

So what did I hear on TV…Joe the plumber isn’t really a plumber but has an agent looking for jobs for him and he is tax evader, didn’t someone check up on him? Was he a plant like the woman who mumbled something about Obama being an
Arab & she couldn’t vote for him.

Ernestine   October 30th, 2008 10:59 pm ET

We as Americans don’t want 4 more years of Republicans pass the buck up and stepping on the middle class,seniors, healthcare,and education. McCain and his crew can’t tell people what we need to hear about improving the system that they have destroy ed they would rather try to discredited Obama will a lot of lies and some people would rather listen to these lies so that will have a reason to have for not voting for Obama because he is Black it is that simple. Wake up people if God says so it will happen. People needs to start using their brains and realize Obama is try to reach out to everyone and don’t but into that crap McCain is feeding you. Obama is not a Muslin and like Collin Powell said what if he was. McCain is the one who is doing and saying any and everything to try to win!

dwayne   October 30th, 2008 10:59 pm ET

A real American???? Just because someone doesn’t agree with you, makes them unamerican. That “my friend” is the problem. Tell me, exactly where do fake americans live. Joe, you are a joke….stick to plumbing…please!!!

Dennis Deloatch   October 30th, 2008 11:22 pm ET

Since “Joe the Plumber” is now campaigning with Sen. McClain, I think he and his family are entitled to the $150,000 wardrobe budget also. After looking at his attire today, I think he needs the the new wardrobe worse than Palin.

Tino   October 30th, 2008 11:25 pm ET

Does anyone know if there ids any truth to Joe the Plumber being related to Charles Keating of the Keating 5.

Velna Reid   October 30th, 2008 11:28 pm ET

Gee, is Joe the plumber going to have a job in the whie house if McCain wins? I am sick to death of Joe the the plumber, but even more so of Sara Palin.

I am a senior for Obama and will be devasted is he doens’t win. I have voted in many elections in my lifetime, but have never been as passionate as I am about this election.

harry   October 30th, 2008 11:36 pm ET

It’s just another example of McCain’s campaign going down the drain.

christina gaffney   October 30th, 2008 11:40 pm ET

joe the plumber isn’t doing too bad for himself, though i’d be inclined to remind us who watched from the beginning, obama didn’t apprach ‘joe’ he approached obama for his 15 minutes of fame. mccain further misled us by being the target factor for ‘joe’ by bringing him up in debate.
now i ask myself was he a plant from the beginning to confuse us who have heard nothing from the mccain camp except how obama’s plans won’t work instead of telling us his plans or how they would work?
all i know so far is 5000.00 dollar tax credit for medical. we already pay weekly insurance and 3000.00 deductible before insurance covers us, plus copays. under mccain’s plans we’re already worse off not better.
furthermore
personally i find being referred to as joe 6 pack quite offensive and joe the plumber didn’t improve my opinion. joe tax em might be more fitting .
christina (not joe’s mama} in pennsylvania

ann oakley   October 30th, 2008 11:45 pm ET

I don’t know why he would wan’t this so called plumber who really isn’t a plumber, dosen’t pay his taxes, or bills, He isn’t working that is for sure and he can’t show up to help the campamp. I think if I hear that name again I will scream.

Brandi-bottom of the boot   October 31st, 2008 12:08 am ET

the fact that they sent a car for him and took him with them following the mix up is rather disturbing. im a real american, i take that as a low blow to every american. they really need to stop saying it.

Alex   October 31st, 2008 12:14 am ET

Joe has a habit of no shows….like no plumber’s license, doesn’t pay his property taxes. This guy is a terrible representative of the people of our nation. Just another example of McCain’s inability to make the correct choices in his corner. Chosing Sarah Palin to be VP is like chosing a 1st year intern to perform brain surgery. I expected a far far better showing from McCain during this Presidential campaign.

johannes   October 31st, 2008 12:21 am ET

Became a citizen this week and voted 3 hours later. For the obvious choice.

Andrew   October 31st, 2008 12:24 am ET

I am very surprised that Joe the plumber is critical of Obama’s plan to spread the wealth. Joe the plumber does not strike me as someone who is very wealth, in fact, I understand that he doesnt actually have a plumbing license and has difficultly coming up with the $1200 he owes in back taxes. Yet, he is concerned about Obama spreading his wealth. What wealth may I ask? He should be happy about the concept of spreading wealth, perhaps he himself would benefit. Also, is Joe the plumber even regestered to vote?

Edna   October 31st, 2008 12:37 am ET

‘Real American” – there they go again suggesting that people who disagree with the Republican view of things as un-American. I can’t believe what I am hearing and seeing during this election. There is so much fear and hate mongering and so many ignorant people in a civilized and powerful nation.

Sherm in VA   October 31st, 2008 12:43 am ET

I feel sorry for the supporters who McCain compared to “Joe the Plumber”. If they are “Joe the Plumber”, that means they lie about buying a business, lie about their income, lie about being undecided, evade taxes, and lie about being a plumber.

Don’t call me “Joe the Plumber”.

Obama’s plans include a middle class tax cut, health insurance for more Americans, and early childhood education. These are the things that will help our country in the long term.

Akangbe   October 31st, 2008 12:48 am ET

Look at poor McCain useing Joe the plumber to avoid talikng about his plans that wont work

Mike McGuire   October 31st, 2008 12:57 am ET

A Real American … why doesn’t he say what he means, a real white American. He probably hates Obama because his Grandpa kicked a little Nazi ass in Patton’s Army …. hey Joe’s last name doesn’t sound real American … Hey Joe, let’s see your green card … oh my God your Canadian!

Matthew   October 31st, 2008 1:06 am ET

There are gaffes, and then there are total trainwrecks. The McCain/Palin campaign would be the latter.

The media doesn’t report little accidents and mishaps. They report tragedies and calamities. The McCain/Palin campaign would be the latter

Tom the Social Worker   October 31st, 2008 1:14 am ET

“Vote for a real American…”. This from someone who does not pay his taxes or obtain a license to practice his trade as an honest contractor would do. Wonder what his sources were for his research -Senator McCain’s website and Governor Palin?

Mel   October 31st, 2008 1:17 am ET

Can you please stop referring this Joe as a “symbol” of American workers? He doesn’t represent me! This Joe “The Plumber” is another Republican stunt, posed as an everyday Joe! I even realized this before some of you journalists found out he has no license as a plumber and his first name is not even Joe! The way he talked in his first interview, he sounded so biased I can’t believe you have played his game and keep playing it. I’m so irritated that you keep talking about him as if he is some kind of hero! (a Republican hero maybe) Please stop talking about him! He is no American hero! He is a right-wing dude!

adam   October 31st, 2008 1:18 am ET

LOL, dont even try to make up any excuses for this guy because there is NONE! McCain has poor communication and judgemnt. Its funny how the die hard repubs are willing to overlook so many HUGE mistakes mad by McCain and to try to distract from their mishaps by making up stories about obama and the democrats, sad, so sad!!!!!! Senator McCain uses a teleprompter too, but some would like to leave that out of their statements.

MsCherokee   October 31st, 2008 1:24 am ET

Joe don’t know who he is he gave a fake name to Obama, he owe taxes, and he not qualified to be a plumber. If I was this guy I wouldn’t throw stones while living in a glass house, the media has a way of getting all in your KOOL-AID, they’ll tell you what flavor it is, and if it sweet or not. Stupid Joe real stupid, now the IRS want their money, and they know where to find you. Joe here’s a hint stop going to McCain rallies the IRS is there looking for you.

Ken   October 31st, 2008 1:25 am ET

“Joe the Plumber” will live in infamy as one of the worst “political” frauds in the history of the United States of America.Joe needs to climb back into his cesspool and build a permanent shack to live in. He won’t smell any different.

Joe has an internationally demonstrated I. Q. of less than 60. (Hint:: Joe, you can look up the meaning of “I. Q.”on Google, assuming you can spell I.Q.).

Joe (if that’s you’re real name), do the world a favor. Climb back into your world of total ignorance and let people with a modicum of intelligence make suggestions on how to make this world a better place to live.

Aubrey Hill   October 31st, 2008 1:28 am ET

He can’t even show up to work as a “real plumber” of course he didn’t show up to the rally. I own a small business and make well over $250k a year. I am insulted to think that John McCain would use this non-plumber, no tax paying, non-business owner as a spokesperson for his campaign I am not voting Republican this year around I am voting for change!

nelson   October 31st, 2008 1:31 am ET

Gov. Palin winked at her father in the audience of the debate {GOOD FOR HER}, what magazines she reads {SO WHAT}, the cost of her clothes { YOU REALLY DON’T CARE}, she goes hunting, something her father taught her {MANY OF YOU ONLY WISH YOUR FATHERS HAD DONE SOMETHING WITH YOU}, her folksy talking style{AN AMERICAN TALKING TO THE EVERY DAY AMERICANS}, but she’s also the Governer of the state of Alaska, who’s accomplished something in her state that many Americans believe that her courage and spirit is remarkable, An American who believed in making a change for the better and has done so, that deep down in each and every one of us at the grass roots level can admire her for her strength,determination, and at this moment in time it took a women to show that it can be done. And me, just a Ret. Marine of 20 yrs.

Mark   October 31st, 2008 1:49 am ET

I’m with Cindy! I have a hard time respecting or trusting Obama after he kicked his campaign off on a lie-referring to his renegged upon agreement to use public financing. This campaign has been fully orchestrated and tilted by the overwhelming media use on Obama’s side. The public wants answers to difficult questions but we only get sound bytes. it seems for 600 million dollars he would have time to get into an indepth detailed account of his plans; but it just never comes… could it be the man has no plan past the rhetoric??

Trevor Marwood   October 31st, 2008 1:49 am ET

Cindy
The difference is they are talking to the media day after day about complicated issues and plans to help all americans Unlike Mr 994 out of class of 998 and the moronic moosehunter who can only talk to those with a simaler IQ of zero.I was under the impression Joe the Lie had been well and truly outed,But maybe the senile and the stupid have not realised that yet !!

Jennifer G   October 31st, 2008 2:05 am ET

I think that McCain might want to ask Americans “were is Obama getting all his pledges“? Supposedly from Donations that are 200.00 and less is he really trying to tell us that, that many people gave him over 100 million dollars in donations or is it foreign countries possible terrorist with online donations that want to see him in office

Jennifer G
Wa

Alex (Aliso Viejo, Ca)   October 31st, 2008 2:10 am ET

With the purest intentions, I do hope Sen McCain and Gov Palin enlist Joe the ‘pseudo” plumber to be part of their campaign and be placed on their payroll. The man as it is has gotten a lot of media exposure via RNC campaign. I can easily mistake him to be their Mascot or model. A talent fee should be in order. Are they paying for your travel expenses by any chance??? What do you think, Joe???

laura   October 31st, 2008 2:42 am ET

joe the plumber and sarah palin as star players of the mccain campaign. the mccain campaign has turned republicans into the party of idiots. who in their right minds would want to belong to a party led by such people?

Carolyn Bailey   October 31st, 2008 3:02 am ET

Joe and McCain both are jokes. McCain’s judgement is questionable. Just like he met Palin 2 times before making her his running mate. All he did was see a tape of Obama answering Joe the plumber’s question ( who this guy is not), and he has him join him on his campaign stumps. What a guy!! No wonder he’s losing. I guess this is what we have to look forward to if he get in the White House, erratic and wreckless behavior. What a joke. All I can do is keep praying to God, that it don’t happen.

Fay   October 31st, 2008 3:25 am ET

A want a be plumber didn’t show for the want a be pres, looking for the want a be vice pres. What a joke. You McCain people, don’t you read Fact Check and find out just how many lies the Republicans are telling? Get educated on the facts and get past color and vote for change.

Ruan Niemann   October 31st, 2008 3:33 am ET

i just have a question, why would anybody want an autograph from a guy like Joe the Plumber?

what would you do with it? would you put it up on your mantlepiece and stare at it?
would you try and sell it on E-bay? what for? who would pay for it?

why do we feed into the cult of instant celebrity like this?

what has Joe the Plumber ever done to deserve our attention, except pretend to be something he is not?

i’m sorry i just dont get it.

ralph   October 31st, 2008 4:34 am ET

The campaign certainly has had it’s problems.Like a gospel singer sing a wonderful religious song on the stage and the audience all waving signs that say they want Country First.

J.V.Hodgson   October 31st, 2008 4:35 am ET

If this guy is even remotely a symbol of the American dream, then god help us all. If he paid his taxes we would all be better off and if he cannot pay his current Republican taxes. How on gods earth in a credit crunch can even remotely hope to buy the business, to do which he would have to be a qualified plumber any way.
Bad Judgment from McCain, think so, and even more so when he does not turn up as expected.
With those kinds of irresponsibility, he will never achieve his American dream unless he votes for receiveng some of Obamas wealth spreading being given to him.
By the way, did McCain not realise that most Americans think plumbers are not reliable, and charge too much!!
Regards,
Hodgson.

AJ   October 31st, 2008 4:47 am ET

Mr. Wurzelbacher aka “Joe The Plummer” is a fabrication of a campaign that has struggled to work with a strategy and tactical plan of genuine sense of purpose for the American people.
I have the utmost respect for Senator McCain as a true American hero, but as we are all seeing as his campaign winds down in the final days of this election, Senator Barack Obama clearly appears to be the better presidential “fitting”.

Frederique   October 31st, 2008 4:57 am ET

And we’re supposed to vote for McCain because he knows how to “fix” things? Give me a break!!!
Wanting to be president very very very badly is not enough. McCain and his team have been incompetent from the start– choosing Sarah Palin to catch Hilary voters only reminded Americans (republican and democrats) how simplistic some republicans can be!!! The American people are sick of being treated like idiots. Haven’t the McCain people noticed? Smart republicans will vote for Obama. Well done McCain!

DannyCali   October 31st, 2008 5:29 am ET

Why John McSame and his VP keep sing same old song every day?
Anderson……please ask them do their any new IDEA to talk, because I’m so sick to listening only same old song about JOE no show.

Anne D'Amour   October 31st, 2008 6:15 am ET

If Joe was a real plumber, he would have been working yesterday. It seems he is just sitting around waiting for the Republican car to come and take him to a McCain or Palin rally. I think he should be called “Joe the Unemployed”. I can’t believe that reasonable people who are watching this circus could possibly go out and vote for John McCain. McCain is insulting the American people by using this “Joe the Plumber” ploy and by using the term “Real Americans”. All American citizens are “real” Americans. There are no “unreal” American citizens.

Bill M.   October 31st, 2008 6:58 am ET

It’s an old greek saying – a country gets the government it deserves. The choices are clear –

McCain / Palin:

Tough-talking, gun-toting, anti-choice, pseudo-secular, pro-cartel capitalism, anti-regulation, flip-flopping team of mavericks completely lost in the corn farm of their own rhetorics. They have failed in consistent messaging, organization, leadership, fund management and uniting their own party. They cannot elaborate their own statements without digressing with winks, smirks, shrugs or scorns.

Obama / Biden:

Articulate, intelligent, smart, meticulous, pro-choice, pro-regulation, pro-middle / working class, pro-science, pro-environment, visionary leaders. At every step they have showed restraint, composure, maturity, pro-acitveness. Their plans have the details which have not changed completely over with every passing week.

Its for Americans to realize who they identify or want to identify themselves with. Its not about any party allegiance anymore. Its about one’s own self… A ballot box is nothing but a mirror…. The world is keen to know who we Americans think we are.

Diane   October 31st, 2008 7:06 am ET

McCain says that Joe the Plummer is a metaphor of America. No, Joe is not. I pay my taxes. Joe does not. I am who I say I am. Joe is not! He is not!

Bruce Ellis   October 31st, 2008 7:09 am ET

I find it amazing that Joe the Plumber can be taken seriously when he calls anything “real”, even John McCain. Joe is not a “real’ plumber. He is not a “real” small businessman. His self interests come first, not the country. He seems to care more about “country and western” than country!
I am a real small businessman. I employ people. I pay my taxes, as does my corporation, unlike Joe. We offer company-paid full health care for our employees. I do believe that paying higher taxes for high wage earners is patriotic and “I have the scars to prove it” (just look at my tax returns). I own a company than generates well over $250,000 in revenue and do not believe my business taxes will be raised by Obama. Why not explain the difference between revenue and profit on the “no bias no bull” network. Quotes added for the benefit of John McCain. ;-) McCain’s tax plan will only allow the rich to get richer through continued outsourcing/off-shoring.

joanne   October 31st, 2008 7:11 am ET

I prefer Joe the Plumber to Joe foot in mouth, brain addled, Biden. Biden has been a Washington hanger-on for 35 years, done nothing except pal around with Ted Kennedy, and harass people who are called on to testify before the Senate. HIs shameful attacks on Clarence Thomas and General Petraeus, both men he isn’t fit to be in the same room with, are indicative of his only talent….being a bully when protected by other pols while show-boating on TV. BUT THE THING YOU SHOULD ALL BE TALKING ABOUT IS THE VINDICTIVE INVASION OF JOE’S FILES BY THE STATE OF OHIO. YOUR GUY’S HAVE STARTED A VENDETTA, WORTHY OF A POLICE STATE , AND YOU SEEM TO ACCEPT IT, ALL BECAUSE AN ORDINARY CITIZEN ASKED A SIMPLE QUESTION. THEY HAVE USED GOVERNMENT LACKEYS TO TRY TO PUNISH AND HUMILIATE HIM….AND YOU THINK IT IS JUST FINE. I CAN’T WAIT TO SEE WHAT THE DO NEXT…PROBABLY PUT HIM IN A CONCENTRATION CAMP TO BE RE-EDUCATED. I think it is fitting that Joe is a plumber because the Democratic Party has become a sewer.

Anna   October 31st, 2008 7:41 am ET

John McCain has shown one bad judgment after another. He seems confused, if not senile.

S.HAYES   October 31st, 2008 8:11 am ET

Some times i think that this guy is way off Q. he should just zip it and pay his back taxes like a real american. I don’t know how you become
a real american but Obama’s mother was white and his dad was black what’s more American than that. America the melting pot.

Charlie   October 31st, 2008 8:24 am ET

It seems that over 50% of us are not REAL Americans. How could we be if we’re not voting for McCain. It seams that everything that comes out of the mouth of a Republican is hate filled and divisive.

Considering how McCain and Palin hate the majority of this country, how will they deal with people and governments that REALLY are not Americans? It’s sad to see how those two have based their strategy on name calling and hate. It’s obvious that they have run out of ideas.

And Joe, what’s up with the “I want to buy a business thing?” I’ve got news for ya Joe, IT AIN’T gonna happen. First, have to have the ability to run a business. Which business school did you attend? Second, you have to have capital. How far are you behind on paying your taxes? Do you really think that you will earn $250,000 a year and therefore have to lay off your imaginary employees? I don’t think that you have to worry about President Obama’s plan to eliminate the existing tax break for the rich. Not in this life Joe.

Jeff   October 31st, 2008 9:12 am ET

I think JTP was never scheduled to show. It was just John McBush having a “senior moment” and now his campaign is trying to cover for him. Just think what kinda trouble his senior moments could get us into if he were elected! “Oh you said ‘Lunch is at Miss Bell’s Resturant….I thought you said ‘Launch the missiles at Russia’…my bad.”
If elected, not since FDR and Harry Truman would a vice-president have such a high probibility of becoming president than Sara Palin. McBush is 72, has had cancer, and looks like he can hardly stand up some days. Would this nation be satisfied having Caribou Barbie as President and Todd as first man? Stuffed moose heads hanging in the East room of the White House again and teen-age pregnancy and shot-gun weddings are now “family values.” Come on…She beat out Joe the Bartender (JTB) from Klondike Bob’s House of Crabs in the election for governor of a state with so few people it couldn’t staff Airforce One. Is she really capable of being President?

Eugene E. Crommett   October 31st, 2008 9:14 am ET

Senator McCain has followed an old Republican Tradition by calling on a plumber to help him.. Remember Nixon and Watergate? in 1971 Colson, Hunt and others were the “plumbers” who broke into the DNC headquarters at the Watergate complex and, as well, the offices of the Psychiatrist Ellsbery who had publicized the Pentagon Papers. Indeed, for dirty tricks and character assassination the Republicans have no equals.

Mike   October 31st, 2008 9:22 am ET

All I’ve seen the past few weeks is Obama staying on message…how he’s going to deal with the economic issues of the country, energy policy, social security, health care….and all I’ve seen McCain and Palin doing is attacking Obama. Nothing substantive coming out of either McCain or Palin’s mouth worth voting for. And McCain he’s for change?! If the same ol’ politics is what he is doing now, what kinda change is he going to bring to Washington? He’s been in Washington for 30+ years now and he says he’s for change? Well, it doesn’t take Joe the Plumber to figure out that if McCain has been in Washington that long and if Washington is so messed up, then McCain’s part of the problem, not part of the solution. If he hasn’t changed anything in 30 years, he isn’t going to do it in 4-8 years. A vote for Obama is a vote for change!

ross berg   October 31st, 2008 9:37 am ET

Another sad mini example of a campaign in complete disaray! I find myself feeling truly sorry for John McCain and for his and our sake I wish the election were over.

Just hope that most Americans will have the intelligence/ability to put it behind us ASAP and get united in our efforts to put the economy back on the right track??

It will be a first for me since I started voting in 1960 to be voting for a Democratic candidate as I shudder at the thought of Sara Palin sitting in the Oval office.

Jan   October 31st, 2008 10:16 am ET

Is Joe the Plumber a plant? A total scam? Here’s a guy who isn’t even a licensed plumber and who’s behind in his taxes and child support. He repeatedly insists he talk to Senator Obama and tells him he wants to buy his boss’ business but can’t because Sen. Obama would raise his taxes. He tells Sen. Obama that the (2 man) business would make over $250,000 creating a scenario where Sen. Obama would have to explain to him that his taxes would be raised a little and why. Then all of a sudden this guy is “Joe the Plumber”, the main theme of the Republican campaign, and Sen. Obama is a socialist who wants to spread the wealth around. Is the guy even employed? He always seems to either be at home or on the campaign trail so how would he have the money to buy an established business? Something isn’t right here and it sounds like a set up.

J in MI   October 31st, 2008 10:28 am ET

So, Barack isn’t a real American? Thanks for your insight “Joe the irrelevant stage prop!”

Rashelle   October 31st, 2008 10:59 am ET

Say it ain’t so Joe! =] I am a student in H.S. but i live in a family of Joe the Plumbers and Ron the Truckers. I am gulity of being a Mini-Joe the plumber in progress

Kim   October 31st, 2008 11:00 am ET

God bless o’l Joe ! He’s been investigated and the news is at his house and no telling what else he’s going through. Sounds like boot camp ! No ones perfect but he sure sounds like a cool American and way to go Joe ! They tried to make up a name to protect his privacy but that didn’t work ! Holly smokes on the river of Jordon and did he know what he was getting into ? An American with a voice and opinion about election 08 ? Joe’s not accused of hanging out with radical ,political people and has he been accused of going to a fund raiser for someone that was going to blow a police station up ? There is no telling what’s true and what’s not in all this. Rumors and mud flying attacks left and right but head straight down middle Joe and appreciate your go ! Has he hung out with someone trying to blow up the pentagon ? To suspect that of someone and not run the other way is not logical but who knows, if that’s true and go American middle class Joe !

Rachael   October 31st, 2008 11:15 am ET

So…

we go from a tragedy pic for VP…Sarah Palin…

to “some guy” (and I mean that) as a campaign platform.

That means we went from a VP we knew little about,
to a guy we, not only know, virtually nothing about, but also don’t
know where he fits into McCain’s cabinet!!!!!!!!!!

When our culture is fractured, our economy in crisis, global changes, both man-made and otherwise are pressing pervasively, it is nice to know that Sam (Joe) and Sarah are there…

At last, we could finally have an “intelligent person” in the White House…and I care little that he would be black, mixed, ivy-league, democrat, eats argula or steak burgers, etc…

But that we FINALLY REALIZE THE CRISIS IS BEST HANDLED BY INTELLIGENT PEOPLE. There are so many people at the top in every sector that are there, not because they are truly intelligent, but because they were most manipulative with the intelligence they had…and there is a difference, Joe, if you are out there in the crowd!

Susan K   October 31st, 2008 11:35 am ET

Joe the (Non)Plumber, Sarah the Moose killer and John the desperate, WOW! Sounds like a great team to me!

GO BARACK!!!!

WANDA   October 31st, 2008 11:40 am ET

Gimmick after gimmick after gimmick, can’t stick to the real issues for the life of his so called campaign. First, he all but killed the word “maverick” and now “Joe the Plumber” and this “Real American” crap. Everytime I hear those words I scream and turn the channel. Hurry up November 4th.

Rob   October 31st, 2008 12:17 pm ET

So last week, Sarah Palin complained about her public roll out by the McCain campaign, and no Joe the plumber is angry about his. Hmm.

Branden   October 31st, 2008 2:27 pm ET

how desparate can this campaign get? pretty sad when you need to rely on a plumber who isn’t there to inject energy in to your campaign. if i hear “joe the plumber” mentioned one more time, i’ll likely puke out of disgust. this is a serious election and mccain is treating it like a game with palin and the plumber serving as his mascots.

the john mccain of today is a pathetic shadow of what he once represented and stood for.

Marcia   October 31st, 2008 2:34 pm ET

I’m a real American and I’ve lived in small and large towns, in the East Coast and California. I’ve even lived outside the country. I’m a professional in the Silicon Valley.

No one area of our country has a lock on being Real Americans. Just because I don’t work with my hands doesn’t mean I’m not a Real American.

This topic and line of thinking is a ridiculous and insulting to any thinking person.

Also insulting is the endless parade of talking heads representing different parties on your news shows, speculation regarding polls and magic maps. I’ve been turning off CNN at a time I’d prefer to see real news reporting.

robin   October 31st, 2008 2:58 pm ET

For a REAL America, Vote Obama-Biden!

Paige   October 31st, 2008 3:02 pm ET

What a George Costanza moment. Actually, with Sarah Palin doing the Elaine thumb dance and Steve Schmidt flaking out as Kramer, does that make Joe the Plumber Jerry? or Neeewman?

Pamela Ealy   October 31st, 2008 3:09 pm ET

I think somebody forgot to tell John McCain that “Joe The Plumber” got a Country Music Deal and he doesn’t need him anymore. I guess he forgot to Vet another one!

Art M   October 31st, 2008 3:34 pm ET

I thought Joe the plumber worked 12 hrs per day, made dinner for his child, helped with homework went to bed and started all over again the next day.
WOW! Did he get a note from John Mc to miss work? Who is taking care of his child? How is he going to make his house payment ?much less buy himself a company. Is he on the McCain payroll. How about plane tickets? Babysitters?
I’m not surprised, if McCain wins look for Joe on the Supreme Court. Why not he picked Sarah Palin.

Ken   October 31st, 2008 6:04 pm ET

Utterly ridiculous. McCain Palin are grasping quite desperately as evidenced by this Joe “the plant” plumber. I almost embarrassed for them, but too excited about CHANGE coming to this country.

Scott   October 31st, 2008 6:50 pm ET

The sad thing about this whole issue is that “Joe” should have been someone that Obama won over to his side if he didn’t blunder his moment with “Joe” by talking about “distributing the wealth”.

It was one of the few actual mistakes that Obama has made in his nearly 2-year long campaign. Fortunately, I think he’s enough ahead that the issue can’t recruit enough “Joe”-like blockheads to vote, again, outside of their best interests.

Scott   October 31st, 2008 6:59 pm ET

The sad thing about this whole issue is that “Joe” should have been someone that Obama won over to his side if he didn’t blunder his moment with “Joe” by talking about “distributing the wealth”.

It was one of the few actual mistakes that Obama has made in his nearly 2-year long campaign. Fortunately, I think he’s enough ahead that the issue can’t recruit enough “Joes” to vote, again, outside of their best economic interests.

Lisa   October 31st, 2008 7:33 pm ET

You guys are all going to be crying on wednesday when the McCain Democrats deliver your Bradley effect.

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