Roland S. Martin | Bio
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CNN Political Analyst
Can we just call white voters white voters?
OK, I’m not trying to be the race guy, but these labels are driving me nuts!
Earlier today CNN aired a piece on Joe Sixpack, and not a single African American, Hispanic or Asian was interviewed.
Now, do these groups drink six packs? Yep. But don’t we know that Palin isn’t talking to them? Yep. So why not just say it?
We even played a soundbite of Palin saying Joe Sixpack and hockey moms. Trust me, she’s not speaking to anyone who looks like me!
But there are other terms that have been thrown around by candidates, political strategists and the media, and no one wants to be honest as to who we are talking about.
Wal-mart moms. Soccer moms. NASCAR dads. Small town America.
Seriously. Read all of those phrases, and when you think of who candidates, political strategists and the media are talking about, who immediately comes to mind? I can tell you no one black, Hispanic or Asian!
So, can we just stop the nonsense and say, all at once – WHITE AMERICANS.
I just think it’s so obvious, but it as if we – the collective media – just doesn’t want to say it.
But to further explain the Joe Sixpack stuff, I saw an interview on American Morning with with Jackie and Dunlap, two redneck comedians. So essentially we’re going to two country white guys to define Joe Sixpack. Need we say anything more as to who Joe Sixpack is?
Now they were hilarious, and I love ‘em – got Larry the Cable Guy and Jeff Foxworthy on my iPod – but it’s as if the white elephant is in the room and we close our eyes and act like it’s not there.
See, if we’re discussing black, Hispanic and female voters, we just say, “black, Hispanic and female.” But we try to be cute and not say what we really mean.
Lastly, can someone tell me the last time you heard McCain or Palin say inner city? Maybe those aren’t the voters they care about.
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| Sonia Murrell |
October 8th, 2008 8:54 am ET Hi Roland, I have a concern about the tone this McCain/Palin campaign is taking, yesterday in Florida an person shouted “Kill Him” in response to Palin’s discription of Obama paling around with terrorist. I have not heard this addressed on the National news and I am afraid of where this rhetoric is headed. Here is the report from the Washington Monthy: “Also yesterday, Sarah Palin repeated one of her unusually stupid attacks, rehashing the nonsense that Obama “pals around” with terrorists. One man in the audience, responding to Palin’s smear, shouted, “Kill him!” Palin also did not comment on the remark.” |
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| Alex |
October 8th, 2008 8:57 am ET Roland, |
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| Praetorian, Ft. Myers |
October 8th, 2008 9:00 am ET Inner city? What color would that be? Why does color matter, sex, age, economic status? Frankly…I find the “lack of” trying to weave their message to: inner city, suburbs, mountains, valley’s, race, age, economic status, personal billiance—a big breath of fresh air. As a former lifelong Democrat–I’m now I’m and independent? A hard look at the Democratic Party–especially in this season–shows striations, in-fighting, power/message struggles caused by it’s attempt to segregate different segments of the population–and steer them left. Truly–it’s inability to look at all Americans as equal in the eyes of government and their elected representatives–is their Achille’s heel. I’ll be voting for McCain. Because he makes no attempt to wed himself to ideals that divide the nation among ethnic, racial, gender lines–instead continuoulsy refering to all Americans–and the blind equality of our constitution and bill of rights as his guiding principle of fairness, equity, freedom, and liberty. Thank God–he’s failed to divide–but instead prefers to unite. |
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| stephanie |
October 8th, 2008 9:01 am ET Senator McCain and Govenor Palin’s insidious slide into Hoover-style politics is more frightening than both the war in Iraq and the finacial crisis. Their campaign seems to be pining the good ol’ days of Jim Crow, perhaps just to win an election, but nonetheless inciting volence. A man in the crowd at a Palin rally shouted, “kill him,” when Palin began her standard association of Senator Obama with Ayers in her stump speech. Please, journalist of American, citizens, put a stop to this. We do not need an internal race, religion, and class war in the middle of the most challenging time this country has seen in a long while. We have come too far to slip back into this type of discourse and this type of intollerance. TELL THEM TO STOP! Expose the consequences of this type of strategy, if you can possibly call it that. Ask the McCain campaign to make their case for the highest office in the land on the issues, not by turning the clock back fifty years. |
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| Ken |
October 8th, 2008 9:05 am ET To think that Sarah Palin is only reaching out to white voters is political suicide. This article spins it that way to create some level of division that is not real. She did not win the Governorship of Alaska with just the white vote. You sir, are writing a racist article here. It is unfortunate for you to continue such negativitiy. One would think that someone as educated and successful as you would want to continue that success by writing something with more honesty and fairness. |
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| jenn |
October 8th, 2008 9:06 am ET she ain’t speaking to me either, i’m a WHITE AMERICAN and i can assure you, i am not “joe six-pack” |
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| wallster |
October 8th, 2008 9:11 am ET Exactly Roland. I am glad someone finally has the balls to say this in public media. Race is and should be irrelevant when you go to the polls to vote. The fact that this country puts so much emphasis on whether you are white/black/hispanic/ etc. really illustrates how civilized we really are. Couple that with reality television, some of these campaign ads, and NASCAR, you may begin to see and understand why so much of the world views us as a bunch of barbarians. |
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| Blaqman |
October 8th, 2008 9:15 am ET McCain is so racist. As he answered Oliver Clarks’ question he referred to Alan’s’ American Dream. Why would he not point Oliver’s American dream. Is it that Black people do not have a right to the American dream? He was condescending and racist. |
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| Bev, Town of Tonawanda, NY |
October 8th, 2008 9:19 am ET Dear Martin: I totally agree with you. I wish politicians would just talk straight and tell it like it is, but I know it won’t happen. I am a white, middle-age, middle-class female who dislikes all the labels being thrown at us, especially by the repugnant republicans. McCain and Palin care nothing about the inner cities, or the middle class for that matter. It’s always the rich. |
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| Carole |
October 8th, 2008 9:22 am ET Palin has promoted a view that America consists of hockey moms and joe 6-packs. I was under the impression that America was a diverse nation of people from all walks of life, with a far broader scope of interests and ideals not limited to watching hockey and drinking beer. It’s not only offensive, it shows the other side of small town mentality that nobody has discussed – the “we don’t like outsiders” crowd. I have no doubt she connects to hockey moms and six-packers, and that is unfortunate. |
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| TeresaInTN |
October 8th, 2008 9:23 am ET I agree, Mr. Martin. Call it like it is. The media will say “the black vote” or “the hispanic vote” all the time but there are so many labels for “the white vote” that I can’t keep up. McCain spews talk of reaching across the aisle and him being a maverick to his own party; however, I have not heard once how he will reach across the street to help “the middle class.” Or, maybe they don’t have middle class in the neighborhoods where he has his many residences? Maybe McCain’s idea of “the middle class” is someone who has four homes instead of nine? |
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| Cindy |
October 8th, 2008 9:27 am ET Roland, Cindy…Ga. |
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| christina |
October 8th, 2008 9:33 am ET Watching the news and bits of these rallies it really looks like kkk meetings. I am a white 32 year women and I can NOT believe what I hear “treason” “terrorist” and “kill em”! Why did Palin and McCain just keep talking? You can see that they heard the comments. And isn’t the media talking about this more? This is serious! I hate to say the race thing is an issue but Palin and McCain are coming off very racist. I have a couple friends who are black and republican, but after the past week they are voting for Obama. People are offended{we can read between the lines}. So Roland can you push this issue and make cnn talk about the hate rallies that are going on. My own granfather told me that these rallies look like the 60’s all over again. I cannot tell you how angry voters are about this. I live in Pittsburgh and we don’t like this at all! Please Roland keep this in the news. PENNSYLVANIA FOR OBAMA or should I say THAT ONE |
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| Pat |
October 8th, 2008 9:35 am ET All I can say to this article is “THANK YOU”. My sentiments exactly. I am an African American, though biracial (white/black) haven’t felt that the McCain camp is reaching groups of people other than White Americans. The media expresses that Obama is in the lead partly because of the economic situation and that people tend to sway Democrat during hard times. This is totally not the case. I am also not voting Obama because he is black. Palin came to California….Orange County which is considered to have many “wealthy” families…I was really hoping to hear or see inner city or something. It only confirmed more what the McCain camp stands for….the wealthy and the middle class and lower income can wait. I’m glad someone addressed Joe Six Pack cause honestly as an African American amd just as a person, I’d never heard this term before so I knew it had nothing to do with or at least very little to do with and address African Americans. And hockey moms….I have never seen a Black Hockey Mom son who plays hockey. Bottom line McCain camp has made a mistake and a costly one at that. |
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| Robert from Alabama |
October 8th, 2008 9:37 am ET Good article Roland |
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| Brian |
October 8th, 2008 9:45 am ET WHY is it OK for certain people to vote for Obama BECAUSE HE IS BLACK……. But it is not OK for certain people NOT to vote for him BECAUSE HE IS BLACK………… This is a 2 way street ….. like it or not, there are people in this country who just cant stand the thought of a BLACK man in the WHITE house……. They will only change when they want to, you are not going to change their minds with pissing and moaning about it. |
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| Kent, Illinois |
October 8th, 2008 9:47 am ET I used to be Joe six-pack, then I quit drinking. I agree with your story all the way. But Joe six-pack cares more about being able to pay his mortgage these days. I think he will choose to be helped by Obama over hating Obama. The labels definitely are used to disguise and not have to say out loud “white vote”. But, if the “minority vote” could come together and strong for Obama it really wouldn’t matter. Obama would win. Latinos need to understand that voting Obama in to the White House does so much for all the minority groups. Not to mention that Obama is the only candidate who cares about the minority vote. The hockey moms will vote for Obama even if their Joe six-packs don’t. My mom rarely votes the same as my dad. She is voting for Obama. Many NASCAR dads may not even vote this year. McCain is looking very bad. |
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| Greg |
October 8th, 2008 9:49 am ET Roland, I think you hit the nail in the head. It is the elephant standing in the corner in this campaign. I found it fascinating last night that hands down, the CNN focus group of undecided Ohio voters thought Obama won the debate. They thought he was more presidential, etc. etc.. They had nothing bad to say about Obama at all. The green and orange lines during the debate were highest when Obama was speaking. The twist came at the end when Solidad O’Brien asked the group who they would vote for for President and the majority said McCain! I think Solidad and the other commentators were taken aback by this. The question in this campaign is how many white voters (especially in Ohio, Florida, Virginia and North Carolina) will agree that Obama is the better candidate, more qualified, etc. but they are not ready to cast their vote for him because of his race. David Gergen touched on this last night and he is exactly right. I’m not sure that this factor can be accurately measured in the polls. There is a possibility that if McCain can pull within 3 or 4 percentage points come election day, the race will actually be a dead heat. Thanks for your great work. |
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| Ada Jean Harvey |
October 8th, 2008 9:54 am ET Hi, what happened to the guy ,who sugessted that instead of the bail out of the stock market, that the gov. give $250, thousand to every American who is 18 and over? The more I think about it, the more it feels good to me. I think the housing market would reverse. Bills would be paid. And I for one would be happy and so would you. I would pay my morgage off for one thing. |
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| Mike, NC |
October 8th, 2008 10:04 am ET Leave it up to you to pull the race card ONCE AGAIN Roland. Over half of your posts on this site are about whites being racist towards all other races, when your own web page is nothing more than an African American activist site that does nothing other than try to spread the word of a rise in black power across the nation. You are such a closed minded individual, anything that you don’t feel is about “including black people” or furthering african american strides in our country is racist. Do some homework. There are multiple black hockey players. Black people play and watch soccer. They shop at Wal-Mart (more black people shop there than whites here). Small town America is not just white people, contrary to your “almighty” belief. Wake up and see that it is people like YOU who create racism in our world by writing this GARBAGE to try to turn some heads and put your new best friend Obama in the white house. Not everyone is as ignorant or closed minded as you, and I hope they do their own homework and don’t take your bait. Get a clue people. |
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| pati mc., camp hill, pa |
October 8th, 2008 10:04 am ET Well Roland, hats off to you, it is about time that someone calls it like it is. I am a white American and if I am offended by the narrow-mindedness of comments such as you have pointed out above, I can well imagine how the rest of my brothers and sisters of ethnicity feel. And we thought that we had come so far? Not so much! I was horrified last evening when McCain called Senator Obama “that one over there”. HORRIFIED! There is NO TIME for this under any circumstances, let alone in a political debate. My God, what was he thinking? I have not been that disgusted since LBJ lifted his poor dog by the ears. Sure tells once and for all what we are dealing with. That mess in the White House is unconscionalble. Word! |
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| Terrence M.Pryor |
October 8th, 2008 10:07 am ET First of all I would like to start by saying I watch CNN because of their somewhat objective view on politics, but what I saw tonight was quite alarming. The post-debate analyzing is the best on all TV, however the comment Senior Analyst David Gergen spoke tonight was quite frankly “sickening”. For Mr. Gergen to state on national television that the polls may suggest that Sen.Obama’s “blackness” may indeed effect the accuracy margin of actual polls conducted was quite disgusting to me. Now, I understand today’s society especially in the media when everyone must scale across that fine high wire line like great exhibitionist of old and try to appear objective when actually they are anything but. This statement deeply disturbed me as an American that the very thing we find so despicable in the back of our minds in today’s society we continue to keep bringing it up….the “race” card. To follow up that statement with a Stanford University poll made it even worse. I may be a bit forgiving than other Americans in the case that I will continue to watch CNN with hopes that this type of blatant behavior does not repeat itself. The fact is that its just too sensitive of an area to interject into an election of this magnitude at this time. No, I’m not blind to the issue of racism in this country, nor do I allow that racism to dictate or influence my beliefs and values that I have been raised on. I am sure that Mr. Gergen understands the weight he carries as a respected analyst, but he must also carry that same weight evenly into that medium of television so many tune into everyday. |
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| Jim |
October 8th, 2008 10:15 am ET THANK YOU ROLAND! It’s about time someone called it like it is. the veiled racism of this wacky right wing woman is appalling. In selecting her, McCain shot himself in the foot. |
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| cynthia saxon |
October 8th, 2008 10:21 am ET Why does Sara Palin think that people want to be referred to as “joe six pack”? And,… “say it aint so joe”, Is this the kind of language we need comming from a united states representative? At one time, I might have considered voting for mccain. When I first saw her, I thought I was looking at a lady…, until she opened her mouth. |
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| nancie |
October 8th, 2008 10:25 am ET You go Roland! Please keep this issue in the media because I don’t see anyone else discussing it. It’s subtle and that makes it dangerous. I’m Asian American and I live and grew up in the inner city. I had never heard of “joe six pack” before Palin said it. I find it interesting that Palin was selected because she could rally the Republican base with her ultra conservative views, but she’s also suppose to represent the common everyday person. How is that possible? The Republican base and the common person are not very similar. Am I the only one who sees this discrepancy? |
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| Janis |
October 8th, 2008 10:27 am ET Thank you Roland for finally bringing this subject up. I think that Carol and Christina said everything that I would have said. I do think that you should make sure that CNN gives this subject more coverage. Palin and McCain are desparate to win by any means necessary and their hidden racial remarks do nothing to move this country forward. By the way, where are the people of color at the McCain and Palin rallies? Their rallies do not look like the America that I live in. |
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| Jan Gainer |
October 8th, 2008 10:29 am ET Wow! Thanks for the insight on this. As a 65 year old white woman, I didn’t think “Joe Sixpack” included me–nor does “hockey mom.” And, I don’t see it as any group I’d want to be a part of. It’s rather insulting even to the small group of people who might relate to those terms. I’ve thought of several songs that could be an introduction to Palin. “I’m a Red Neck Woman;” “Harper Valley PTA;” and probably “Pretty Woman.” Thanks for helping me read between the lines on this as related to race. |
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| Mike in NYC |
October 8th, 2008 10:30 am ET Let’s face it folks. Race matters. Always has. Always will. The thing is, it doesn’t just matter to Americans. Most of the world is “racist,” in the sense that they put their own kind first. And there’s nothing wrong with that. |
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| Rahni, Connecticut |
October 8th, 2008 10:41 am ET I’m an African-American woman of 45 years of age. I never ran into a joe sixpack or a hockey mom who were African-Americans. McCain replaced “You People” with “That One”. McCain is out of touch and he is a racist on man, Rahni, Connecticut |
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| Pat Combs |
October 8th, 2008 10:49 am ET I have realized from Day One that Sarah Palin’s selection as John McCain’s running mate was just a “desperate” PLOY to get Women’s votes! If Sarah is as intelligent as they want us to believe (because–afterall, she was mayor of Wasilla and is governor of Alaska) then, in her “quiet time”–perhaps just before she falls asleep at night–she KNOWS that she is BEING EXPLOITED! And the truly SAD thing is that these “Wal-mart moms, Soccer moms, and all of the other women she refers to and who talk about how much they “admire her” are CONDONING McCain’s EXPLOITATION OF PALIN! Come on women–get your head out of the sand! Are you–like McCain, so desperate for a Republican victory that you will allow one of us to be EXPLOITED like this? I guess so! We (women) HAVE come a long way, but we are taking a GIANT step backwards when you support exploitation of a woman by a man as McCain is exploiting Sarah Palin! I look at Sarah as she makes these speeches, slinging mud, making accusations, saying what she has been told to say. McCain is having her do the “dirty work.” Isn’t that suppose to be the “man’s job?” I see her as a “puppet” whose strings are being pulled by McCain and his camp! At this rate, Sarah Palin will not have one iota of self respect left by the end of this campaign! How sad! I just pray that the Wal-mart moms, Soccer moms, NASCAR dads, Small town America, and Joe Six Pack that Sarah Palin refers to repeatedly (and let’s not forget Jackie and Dunlap), will join me and put “Country First” by voting for the CHANGE that Barack Obama will bring! |
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| Kris in Kansas City |
October 8th, 2008 10:57 am ET Wow. I had never thought of that! But its true, isn’t it?!! Joe six-pack and hockey moms. White voters. I had heard one other peice on TV talk about ‘code words’ and just passed it off (apparently because I don’t know what code words to look for) but it is true! What an eye opener. And Thank you Roland for exposing this for what it is. PS. The entire staff was HOT last night after the the debates! John King Rocks! And David Gergen as always – the best. |
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| Linda B, Ga |
October 8th, 2008 11:00 am ET I’m White, a woman over 50 and don’t give a HOOT about what color this one is or isn’t. I’m voting for Barack Obama because he’s a breath of fresh air, with his thoughts and beliefs. I don’t care what happened to who or who they associated with, in the past. The Bible tells us to always LOOK FORWARD to keep Walking Ahead, not back. Have a GREAT DAY ALL and God Bless America |
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| Kim in NY |
October 8th, 2008 11:04 am ET Lastly, can someone tell me the last time you heard McCain or Palin say inner city? Maybe those aren’t the voters they care about. |
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| Anthony |
October 8th, 2008 11:17 am ET If it hasn’t been made pretty clear before that “McBush” is a racist, then last night’s debate should have made it crystal clear. In addition to the “THAT ONE” comment he made about Obama, an equally racist comment he made was when he answered a question by Oliver Clark who queried on how the bailout package was going to help the people having a difficult time. A portion of his answer was, “…But you know, one of the real catalysts, really the match that lit this fire was Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. I’ll bet you, you may never even have heard of them before this crisis…” How insulting is that? I guess in his limited line of thinking (SARCASM ALERT) there’s NO WAY that a black man can know anything about Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac because black people don’t actual buy homes and properties that require them to obtain loans and know about credit histories and FICO scores, etc. It’s exactly that kind of condescending and backwards thinking and ideology that “McBush” will bring to and perpetuate into the White House. |
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| suki |
October 8th, 2008 11:20 am ET Roland – you are dead on – I am in the South and when I walk out of my door every day I see all the colors of the rainbow – it doesn’t matter where I go – the supermarket, the drug store, the bank, etc. – I hear many languages being spoken – since this is the South we don’t have hockey but the fields of softball, baseball and football are also a rainbow of beautiful children’s smiling faces I personally don’t know any Joe six-packs since many here would rather have six pack abs McCain is pitiful because he is allowing Palin to go out on the trail and spew hatred and lies – the beauty of America is its diversity – it should be celebrated - |
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| patty |
October 8th, 2008 11:20 am ET Palin is just a Joke ! I think the only reason we listen to her speak is the shock she leaves behind when she is through. Send her Home , She needs some lessons in telling the truth and the fact that she is a mother is starting to scare me. Leaving for Italy – can not wait to her some international views on this Election. |
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| kindra |
October 8th, 2008 11:21 am ET I was at my son’s football game last night and it occurred to me that I was indeed a “football mom”. I am also a “basketball mom”. From those statements you might infer that I am Black. I am. But there were a lot of white people at that game also supporting their kids. I wonder how many Black kids are involved in hockey. Clearly Palin chose to describe mothers by a a sport that would allow us not to make a mistake on who she was reffering to when she says hockey moms. Why not just say White moms of America, otherwise why not just say sports moms if she didn’t mean it that way. I think it is very naive for many white people to say that race does not matter, and it only exist when we talk about it. In a perfect world it should not matter, but despite white america’s effort to sweep it under the rug, Black America knows that it is still an issue. I think that white people don’t want you to know just how racist a lot of them are so when asked by pollsters who they will vote for I think they lie about it. Especially if they are Democrats. How else could they explain not voting for Obama. I am afraid that when they get behind closed curtains they will vote their true selfs, and Obama will lose, despite having a double digit lead going into the vote. I guess then we will know that we really have not come that far from the racist 60’s as white americans have fooled themselves into believing. |
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| Maureen / Newman, California |
October 8th, 2008 11:30 am ET McCain and Palin are down in the polls and desperate. I am disgusted but not surprised that Palin did not contest the “kill him” rant from one ignorant admirerer of hers. This is very revealing of Palin’s values. The McCain and Palin campaign illustrates exactly why I have not trusted politicians in the past. They disgust me and continue to disgust me more and more daily. They are preying on the ignorant, narrowminded, uninformed Americans that will believe anything that is said without researching the facts on their own. They will get votes but they will not win the election. There are too many intelligent, informed, ethical voters to elect scums like McCain/Palin. Go Obama! |
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| Joe |
October 8th, 2008 11:34 am ET I am sickened by the fear and hatred drummed up by the Republican party. Where are the Christ-like members of members of the Religious Right in this campaign? It seems they are getting poised and ready to (falsely) push this into a religious Christian/Muslim battle as well. You know, Bill Maher was totally correct in his new movie RELIGULOUS. You should go see it. Its disturbing. |
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| Claudia, Houston, Tx |
October 8th, 2008 11:36 am ET Intelligent people, whether black or white, don’t refer to themselves as Joe Six Pack, they feel that’s derogatory. Joe Six Pack is described by the educated as someone who drinks beer all day and not too intelligent. I wouldn’t put this label on anyone but Palin has done it. |
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| Stevo |
October 8th, 2008 11:56 am ET Rolland, |
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| Arachnae |
October 8th, 2008 11:59 am ET Terrence @ 10:07 – what the…? Gergen wasn’t being racist, he was reporting that many people still are (and it’s true) and that a university study showed that Obama is losing possibly as much as six percent of the vote he would otherwise get because of his race. He mistated the premise a bit – he said ‘if he were white’ and the study actually said ‘if race were not a factor’. I took this to mean that the six percent is the difference between the number of people who will NOT vote for him because he is not white and the number of people who WILL vote for him because he is black. I further took this to mean the six percent did not include people who would never vote for the democratic candidate in any event. What is wrong with David Gergen pointing out that Obama is ahead in spite of an endemic six point handicap? |
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| Linda |
October 8th, 2008 12:02 pm ET I totally agree. I hate the references to Joe six-pack, soccer moms, NASCAR dads, etc.etc. I am an Asian female in her early twenties. What about me? |
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| Lisa from NC |
October 8th, 2008 12:04 pm ET Cindy.. thought so….. |
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| Mack, NC |
October 8th, 2008 12:05 pm ET Roland, I appreciate your unbiased views. As for McCain, he has direspected Obama in both debates, first one was when he would not even look at him, he stated that “HE COULD HEAR HIM”, and last night when he referenced him as “THAT ONE”. These are all racial undertones, just like on the job when you are passing one of your co-workers , and they either put their heads down, or look up in the ceiling , anything not to acknowledge you. |
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| Jan from Wood Dale IL |
October 8th, 2008 12:16 pm ET Are you equally offended when Obama uses the phrases “bamboozled”, “hoodwinked”, or “okie dokey”? For such a well educated man, why would Obama reduce himself to using such dated street slang? Maybe because he’s trying to appeal to one particulared audience, and it’s not the white middle-class. |
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| Murad M. Al-yasin |
October 8th, 2008 12:25 pm ET hi Roland. |
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| Muriel in PA |
October 8th, 2008 12:28 pm ET It is quite disturbing that race is even a consideration with the shape of the economy. It’s 2008 and not 1958…it’s time to get past this nonsense. Mr. Martin, unfortunately, you are correct in your opening statement and the race card is out in the open. How sad for Brian writing that “there are people in this country who just cant stand the thought of a BLACK man in the WHITE house and that you should stop pissing and moaning about it”….well, guess what Brian…..we aren’t, we are just asking that people be accepted for who they are and not what color their skin happens to be. It’s the people with the same mindset as you that have the problem. It seems that those of you should stop “pissing and moaning” and get over the fact that we, as a race of people, are just as educated, just as smart and just as qualified. Barack Obama has not once identified himself with any ‘group of people’ like Joe six pack or soccer moms…his only identification has been with the people of America. We are Americans…..not Black American or White American or Hispanic American….just American! |
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| Kent, Illinois |
October 8th, 2008 12:29 pm ET Race is not at the forefront of my decision for President. Thank GOD that I see the man and do not decide not to vote for him because of the color of his skin. This race is landsliding to the left and there isn’t much that can stop this force right now. The only thing that could help McCain would be another attack on US soil. People don’t want to hear that but it is true. If the wars we have created would escalate by the Republican President’s hand that could shift support to McCain also. Short of a catastrophe this election is over……………. Obama/Biden 08 |
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| Linda, Oregon |
October 8th, 2008 12:49 pm ET Dear Roland… |
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| Betty, Virginia |
October 8th, 2008 12:51 pm ET With all respect Roland, I don’t know that they really are referring to “white people”… they certainly aren’t including me. Maybe they are referring to “some white people” or “uneducated white people” or “white people who live in small towns” or “rednecks” but whatever they really mean doesn’t matter to me. It’s not inclusive of me (although I have been a republican for many many years) and despite the color of my skin (which is white) I’m voting for the person who is more like me… Barack Obama. Like me Obama believes in inclusion not exclusion. Like me he believes in the word “we” not “me”. Like me he believes to help another is to help all. So let Sarah rant about sixpacks, hockey moms, small town america, I’ll tune her out because she’s not talking to me. |
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| peggy, san diego,CA |
October 8th, 2008 1:30 pm ET I just find the “joe six-pack” a racial remark that is geared to suggest the blue-collar, uneducated, skin-head, KKK, red-neck and I am sick of hearing about it from her. She is insulting to the hard working, middle to low income Americans like me. Is there not enough alcohol and drug abuse in our society to go around due to stress and economic pressures? It is a social issue that needs funding for programs to help alleviate the epidemic. Not a club at the hockey rink! |
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| Nicole in Birmingham |
October 8th, 2008 1:32 pm ET Cindy in Ga. When was the last time you been in the “inner city” because there ain’t no black soccer moms where I stay. Now I am sure there are a sprinkle of black folks that live in the surburbs that are at a soccer game but lets be real. When Palin talks about “6 pack Joe” & “hockey moms” she ain’t talking about us colored folks. That is why 99% of black folks vote Democrat no matter if the person is black or white because they are the only Party that actually acknowledge we exist. Roland I hear but we all know that race will always matter in this great country! “THAT ONE 08″! |
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| pamela moreno |
October 8th, 2008 1:32 pm ET Roland , How unfortunate that for once, I have to agree with you. As much as we would like to think that we have a grip on racisim, it is still and always will be here in this great country. The difference is that we have just changed the terminology a bit. I live in Miami, Florida and as a White female who was born in this country, I am in the minority. (I have to correct you on one thing…it is not White American but it is simply Caucasian! How may times have I had to state my race and not once was there a box for White!) |
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| debi |
October 8th, 2008 1:33 pm ET Roland you are certainly right, glad your not afraid to talk about the race issues. |
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| Catherine, Houston |
October 8th, 2008 1:36 pm ET I know you are an educated guy, that’s why I’m always so disappointed when you are so divisive. Every ninth time you speak you bring up something interesting or smart, but those other eight times I just wonder if you realize how much you hurt your cause. |
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| Greg - Johnstown, Pa |
October 8th, 2008 1:39 pm ET All the hockey moms and Joe six packs couldnt put McCains campaign back together again. They are preaching to the choir each and everytime McCain/Palin open their mouths. There should be no shock that they are behind. If they made a hard decision to never say hockey mom, Joe 6 pack and maverick on the stump for the next month, they might see that by speaking to the people as fellow Americans, it might just go a long way to solving some of the campaigns problems with people on the fence. I dont put much faith in the CNN voter reaction graph that was at the bottom of the screen during the debates. However, there were times when McCain’s dialogue didnt register a thing from anyone, a flatline. Thats amazing. Obama always drew a reaction from the group. That says alot. Regardless of what he was saying, he got people thinking and reacting to him. David Gergen said there was no electircity in the debate, and he is mostly correct. But there is no denying Obama creates his own electricity whether you like his message or not while McCain just simply creates nothing in people who are on the fence toward him. |
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| JC- Los Angeles |
October 8th, 2008 1:51 pm ET It’s completely unacceptable to insert race into every discussion about the various campaigns. Most Americans, regardless of race, want our country turned around and may question whether either candidate is capable to accomplishing said change. When people mention Joe Six-Pack, most think of a white male; when people mention rap music, blacks come to mind; Olympic sprinters? most likely Jamaicans come to mid. To use race for political purposes is unacceptable; to frame a political issue in racial overtones is trite; please move on and try to become more than a one trick poney. |
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| Lisa from NC |
October 8th, 2008 1:53 pm ET If you go to a McCain /Palin rally, it is overwhelmingly white…just go to one and take a look. Sorry folks, there is just a racism issue at play here. There are 3 types of Republicans: folks who like to pretend that they have more than they really do, folks who are blatantly racist, and the very wealthy. |
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| Bill |
October 8th, 2008 1:56 pm ET I think what you mean is “misguided white voters”…or just “stupid people” |
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| Jay ky |
October 8th, 2008 2:00 pm ET Terrence- I understand your concern, but Roland is right to bring this issue up. Go back and read Greg’s comments posted at 9:49. I was glad to see I wasn’t the only person last night that was shocked when I realized, the “undecided” voters in Ohio said Barack won the debate, said every thing postive, but then, most of them said they won’t vote for him! The reporters were taken aback. |
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| adrian pay MD |
October 8th, 2008 2:11 pm ET Roland, i am an independent and have voted for George Bush Sr, John Kerry, Gore in the past. i was leaning towards McCain before 1.5 weeks ago but am now for Obama especially after McCain’s comment that he viewed health care as a “responsibility.” It is very easy for him to say that with his health insurance and rich wife since this present health care system is broken and i see it every day on the frontlines in texas as an internal medicine MD, primary care physician. health insurance coverage these days is becoming more restrictive and more about denial and shifting costs to the average american and the health insurance bobbleheads and their cronies call this americans becoming more “responsible” and accountable for their health care choices. Most unhealthy americans did not choose to be unhealthy or riddled with chronic and daily pain or diabetes and we need a system like OBama’s proposal that will take care of Americans and prevent such hardship on the average american. |
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| Shannon in Virginia |
October 8th, 2008 2:19 pm ET Roland, thanks for the common sense. Lets not forget the motto of the Commonwealth of Kentucky “UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL” |
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| K |
October 8th, 2008 2:35 pm ET Roland, While I agree with some of your comments I do also agree with some posts here that you do pull the race card quite often. If you don’t think about race all the time and rather competence or the person’s value and personality we ACTUALLY may move past this issue. I’m a minority Indian woman and I refuse..absolutely refuse to acknowledge racism. I will not consider it for myself or any other. I portray myself as a person who is fair and competent and I judge others likeways. For those who aren’t like that and WANT to look at my race and judge me, then I have no time for a person like them in my life. Trust me I will succeed without them! Every time Sarah Palin said “Joe six-pack” I felt like saying, “I’m sorry can we modify your statement a bit and include the Juan six-packs, Lee six-packs, Patel six packs etc…or lets just make it easier and say American six pack…or wait wait let me make it EVEN easier and just say AMERICAN” So called “leaders” like her scare the heck out of me, because instead of elevating us and leading us forward, she is determined to pull us down back in the mud and erase all the progress that we have made and can make in the future. With her in any leadership power scares me of the intolerant views she will be promoting, and what kind of place would that be for anybody that doesn’t fit her conventional image? |
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| Kristi-WA |
October 8th, 2008 2:39 pm ET I am a white female that lives in a town of 1,014 people. I thought “Joe six pack” was refuring to the beer drinking, white men of America. If you drink beer, Sarah is your girl. Should Joe Biden come out and say he is speaking to Joe micro brew? I need to e-mail SNL. |
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| Jeff in Los Angeles |
October 8th, 2008 2:50 pm ET Roland, you are right on this one. Look at the stark difference between the 2 conventions. The DNC had a mixture of all colors, races, creeds. The RNC had 99% white people, many of them old. I don’t know any Black hockey moms or Asian Joe 6-packs. |
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| Charmz |
October 8th, 2008 2:54 pm ET Hats off to you Roland and David Gergen (my fave) for taking on this issue, it is the big white elephant in the room; and thank you Greg for noticing what I also noticed with the focus group last night. I actually sent an email to AC360 asking them for some follow through. Why didn’t Soledad O’Brian ask the focus group to explain the huge discrepancy between their reaction to Obama as being a positive on most talking points when compared to McCain, but the majority would still vote for McCain if the election were held today. |
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| Kay |
October 8th, 2008 2:56 pm ET While I agree with some of your comments I do also agree with some posts here that you do pull the race card quite often. If you don’t think about race all the time and rather competence or the person’s value and personality we ACTUALLY may move past this issue. I’m a minority Indian woman and I refuse..absolutely refuse to acknowledge racism. I will not consider it for myself or any other. I portray myself as a person who is fair and competent and I judge others likeways. For those who aren’t like that and WANT to look at my race and judge me, then I have no time for a person like them in my life. Trust me I will succeed without them! Every time Sarah Palin said “Joe six-pack” I felt like saying, “I’m sorry can we modify your statement a bit and include the Juan six-packs, Lee six-packs, Patel six packs etc…or lets just make it easier and say American six pack…or wait wait let me make it EVEN easier and just say AMERICAN” So called “leaders” like her scare the heck out of me, because instead of elevating us and leading us forward, she is determined to pull us down back in the mud and erase all the progress that we have made and can make in the future. With her in any leadership power scares me of the intolerant views she will be promoting, and what kind of place would that be for anybody that doesn’t fit her conventional image? |
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| Jeff in Los Angeles |
October 8th, 2008 2:58 pm ET Just an add on to my last post. First that I am a white male, so you can see I have no racial bias in my first comments. Second, to Cindy in GA, he said HOCKEY moms, not SOCCER moms, big difference. |
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| BJ |
October 8th, 2008 2:58 pm ET Cindy, You are absolutely right. Race only matters to those blacks, like Martin, who are always playing the victim and want to continue to use it as a weapon against the white community in order to get what they want. |
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| Michelle, Texas |
October 8th, 2008 3:15 pm ET The republicans have reached an all time low and are turning this nation against each other: middle class vs upper class; patriots vs terriorists; military vs non-military. Have we forgotten so quickly about 911 that put all these differences aside and we all Americans? I strongly support Obama. However, I’m really afraid that with all the economic turmoil, this Presidential race could drag this country back into segregation mindsets if the McCain/Plain ticket makes it to office. If that happens, I’m moving to Canada or England where I m more willing to take my chances to start anew. |
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| Rich from Delaware |
October 8th, 2008 3:25 pm ET Roland has no problem admitting Sarah Paling is targeting white voters, yet he refuses to acknowledge that blacks are voting for Obama simply because he’s black. |
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| Darlene |
October 8th, 2008 3:30 pm ET Roland, I’m glad to see I’m not the only one who saw the KKK rallys that McCain and Palin hold. You should not be surprised when Palin’s husband Todd was a member of a group called The Alasken Independance Party. He was a member until 2002 and she recorded a speech for their convention last march. And Sarah got the blessing of her pastor Pastor Thomas Muthee who would be a Domestic Terrorist in his homeland of Kenya, where in 1999 he said a woman in the villiage was a witch and tried to run her out of town, really nice people they hang around with, huh?….But they can talk about Obama and something that happened 20 yrs ago. |
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| Ashu |
October 8th, 2008 3:32 pm ET If the six percent is the difference between a win and a loss then its important to get to those voters that think this way. |
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| Chris from PA |
October 8th, 2008 3:34 pm ET Roland, |
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| Mel |
October 8th, 2008 3:38 pm ET My husband and I love hearing Barack speak because we feel a sense of direction, mindfulness, thoughtfulness and even a calming aspect to his message. We are not ‘joe six packs’ or ‘hockey moms’! In fact, this is a very narrow group of people to appeal too, but McCain and Palin don’t understand that. In fact, it is a complete insult to us. We have real issues paying our mortgage and sending our kids to college and now healthcare issues. We are both 50 years old and we wonder if this is how people felt when they heard FDR speak his ‘fire-side’ chats during the depression and the years to come. We have a great deal of confidence in Barack and we can’t wait to see him win on November 4! I am sad to see that McCain and especially Palin can only come up with slinging lies against Barack. Is this the best they can do? Neither of them have any room to talk since their closets are hardy clean. Palin with the bridge to ‘no where’ and 3 miles of road costing taxpayers 24 million dollars, the lawsuits in Wasilla for a recreation center that has a ‘lean’ on it, her association with a questionable church and her husbands activities with questionable groups. McCain with the Keating Five. Who are they fooling? They need to stop the craziness and get to the real issues. Unfortunately they are only tactical thinkers without a strategy or plan. Shame on them! |
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| Ashu |
October 8th, 2008 3:40 pm ET If it comes down to race against Obama then I would protest against such nonsense. |
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| Bruce |
October 8th, 2008 3:43 pm ET I agree with you Rolland. If Obama were not black he would be at least 20 points ahead in the race. In spite of the secret racists, McCain is such a joke and Palin an idot, the american people want a change. I’m voting for the man. I grew up in the deep south, am a 62 year old white male and I care about my country. I’ll admit I would never vote for someone like Jesse Jackson, but Obama is different and people need to see that difference. He has a very compelling story and will lead this county instead of the current Texas cowboy (I now live in Texas) and his sidekick McCain. I found Palin very offensive even before she went off the deep end with all the negatives and untruths. As most of you remember the Republician convention, several comments were make about you were hard pressed to find a delegate with anything other than white skin, but what bother me the most, the majority of the delagates had incomes over $250,000, the group McCain wants to give a tax cut to. |
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| Larry Masterson |
October 8th, 2008 3:52 pm ET Roland, I suppose creating code words for other ethnic groups wouldn’t solve the problem for you. The media wouldn’t touch Old English Tyrell, Sake-san or the Tequila Bandito with a ten foot pole. Joe Six Pack is not just about hiding the obvious albedo implicit in that term. It highlights a serious division in the White population that this campaign has exacerbated. It shows that the McCain campaign has already written off the Cabernet and Chardonnay Caucasians. The Ayers smear is proof of the pudding. Is Obama accused of “palling around” with contemporary problem children like Mummia. No, it’s a lily-white “terrorist”, “shamefully” rehabilitated by a pack of urban liberal elitists. This time around Willie Horton is white. |
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| Bill S. / Pittsburgh |
October 8th, 2008 3:52 pm ET Race is a huge issue in this election. The latest polls show that over 97% of all black voters support Barack Obama. Voting for a candidate based on race is no different than voting against one. I am still undecided and basing my decision on the issues and facts as well as my personal beliefs. I will weigh these factors against those of each candidate and choose the one that represents me. I can only hope everyone else does the same. But, I do not believe that everyone voting for McCain is a bigot the way it has been implied. |
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| Elaine |
October 8th, 2008 4:00 pm ET I watched the debate last night. I am neither Democrat nor Republican. I am one of those darn Independents. I was absolutely floored by the blatant condescension displayed by McCain, not only to his opponent, but also to the audience. I do not know how many times he said “my friends”. My thought was ” You do not even know me, we are not friends”. How can a Washington that is so out of touch with the average American, one who does NOT have 12 homes and millions, call me his friend? |
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| Johnette Taylor |
October 8th, 2008 4:10 pm ET Roland, |
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| Dan from Virginia |
October 8th, 2008 4:11 pm ET Rahni in Conn. calls McCain a racist for using the term “That one”? I use that term all the time talking about other whites, so it’s not the racist term you are trying to make it out to be. Remember just a few short months ago, Obama refered to his own grandmother as a “Typical white woman”! I wonder if Rahni was just as offended by that comment or if her accusations of racism are selective. Personaly I would consider “typical white woman” more of a racist comment than “That one” |
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| Lisa from NC |
October 8th, 2008 4:14 pm ET Carole and Christina |
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| Sharon from Indy |
October 8th, 2008 4:36 pm ET Roland: Living in Mississippi for 6 months this past year, I realized that the mentality of the white versus the black debate didn’t end after the Civil War or the Civil Rights Movement. There are still unofficial black and white gas stations, unofficial black and white neighborhoods and unofficial black and white schools. To say otherwise, it is just naive. Anyway, the Joe six-pack is an unofficial way to reach the stupor of hot-headed, un-motivated angry white men and women. When angry, blame someone else; when cornered, start swinging; when facing job loss, blame the unions; when taxes are high, blame the minorities. Just pull up your boot straps! Joe Six-Pack doesn’t have a clue. |
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| Betty Ann, Nacogdoches,TX |
October 8th, 2008 4:38 pm ET Hi Roland, |
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| Betty |
October 8th, 2008 4:46 pm ET I was a Dem,but not now after the way the DNC has been so corrupt,I believe McCAin is the best for our president because at least we can trust him with our country and know we will at least be safe,if Obama gets in I’m not sure any of us will be very safe because he wants us to be a socialized country,listen to his health plan,the way he wants to do taxes,and for gods sake he knows nothing about the militay or the war,if we listen to him we will all get killed,I have several members in the military and my husband was in the secret service and they all say we can not let Obama in because he would be very bad for the military and this country-Thank god most all of the military is for McCain. |
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| Rosie |
October 8th, 2008 5:06 pm ET P.S. Rowland, I also think that all news stations need to stand up and not support such dangerous coverage of Palin. They also need to address McCain’s racist behavior along with his poor VP pick. On the debate last night, Obama attempted to shake his hand and McCain walked away and failed to extend his hand. Now, is that the type of behavior that you would want your children to display. McCain is so childish and old but immature. SAD!!! Can you imagine him in the White House with these behavioral issues? His behavior would keep us at war. I mean it. We would STAY AT WAR!! I am also sick of his POW story, you know i am a veteran but I don’t go around begging for recognition. You serve and do it with honor and when it is over it is OVER!! MOVE ON! |
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| Ann - San Diego, CA |
October 8th, 2008 5:25 pm ET Yeah..that sounds just about right. The campaigns could go with more ambiguity and call everyone “Americans”. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again – ENOUGH with the cute stuff. Particularly on the McCain/Palin side. I know, it’s supposed to be refreshing and “energize” the base, but we already have a president who fumbles during his speeches/interviews; coincidentally, he also winks too! I actually like Palin and I think she makes a great local politician, but I can’t take her seriously anymore. Americans need reassurance that we will have competent leaders this January 20, 2009 interested in restoring credibility to Americas reputation. I don’t think overusing the terms “maverick”, “joe six-pack”, and “soccer-mom” are doing American’s any justice. The whole McCain campaign has become somewhat irresponsible and chose the wrong timing to do so. Moreover, the cute, folksy, white-talk demonstrates Palin’s lack of experience when it comes to relating to every type of voter. Thanks for pointing it out Roland. |
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| Megan |
October 8th, 2008 5:30 pm ET I feel the race card started, not with the McCain camp, but Obama’s. |
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| BRUCE, ST PAUL MN |
October 8th, 2008 6:00 pm ET Roland, I am white and 56. I am voting for a pathway to healthcare and energy policy, a step towards education and sensible tax policy. I am worried about the economy and the future. The Black, Hispanic, Asian, and Arab people that I know are all concerned about the exact same things. Race does not really divide us in this election unless we choose to let it. The Republican campaign and the press do use code words, including “risky” and questions ike “do we really know Obama?” Trying to turn Obama into a scary guy is a direct appeal to ignorance and fear. It seems like a pretty narrow demographic . Is there anyone running that campaign? |
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| Susan (Anaheim, CA) |
October 8th, 2008 6:02 pm ET I would love to see the day that we are all just Americans, no labels about ethnicity or about what part of the country we live in. Just as it doesn’t matter what color our eyes are, how wonderful it would be if we all thought of each other as Americans and not by any other standard. Pretty sure it won’t happen in my lifetime, but maybe if everyone put forth an effort to stop using all the labels that divide us and just called us all Americans, it could happen someday. Maybe it could start with you. You have exposure to so many people that if you called other people for doing it and stopped doing it yourself, maybe we could speed up this much needed change. |
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| Susan |
October 8th, 2008 6:11 pm ET As much as I disapprove of Sarah Palin as a VP choice and McCain as a president, and am so turned off by their sleazy smear tactics, I don’t think Joe Six Pack symbolizes white voters to them, and if it does then they do many of us white voters an insult for I am not one of them (Palin/McCain, nor a Joe 6 pack nor a hockey mom, nor a Republican, and I am a strong Obama supporter). I think the whole Joe 6 pack comment, which if you noticed came after she was made to look uneducated and uninformed, if not a bit stupid by her interviews, so I think she was more trying to get the vote of people who know they wouldn’t get into to Harvard like Obama, or be lawyer like him and Biden, but that might be a housewife or a military man, or a joe 6 pack working a 40 hour a week blue collar job. I think she understimates those people for they still want smart educated people running the country, even if they don’t understand the economy or know much about Sunni vs Shia, they sure want our President to know that stuff so he/she runs our country properly. To me, she was saying okay so I am uneducationed, uninformed and a little bit like the Tina Fey impersonation, but that makes me like the majority of Americans that don’t go to Harvard, that don’t stay up reading magazines but kick back with a 6 pack and watch TV… and yes they want a drink with that person but after Bush lets hope that demographic doesn’t want them to run our country! |
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| Rich from Delaware |
October 8th, 2008 6:15 pm ET Race only matters when Obama is trailing in the polls. When he’s ahead, no one…not even Roland questions the black voters who are simply voting for Obama because he’s black…and there are more out there than Roland wants to admit. But when he trails in a poll, all of a sudden people like Roland question’ How big of a factor is race” |
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| anthony |
October 8th, 2008 6:17 pm ET why is it that some people out there are mad because blacks are voting for oboma ho happens to be a dem 90 percent. and calling it raciest. blacks have been voting for white people 90 percent of the time that happen to be dems. well all ways vote dem. what have the GOP dun for me. by the way I am a 25 year old black man that did my part in the united states marine corp. and fought as a grunt in afganistan. I have put country first. and I am going to do it again my voting for oboma. not because he is black. but because of what he stands for. |
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| jm |
October 8th, 2008 7:21 pm ET If you dont want to be the race guy, then stop being racist. I read articles stating that people who dont plan to vote for him are racist And I hear that if he doesn’t win its bc whites are racist and wont pull the lever for a black man once they’re in the privacy of the voting booth. For someone who is supposed to transcend race, Obama certainly seems content to allow people like you to use it to your full advantage. I hate to break it to you, Roland, but white people don’t care if Obama is black, they care that hes completely unqualified to run this great country of ours. None of the white people I know care if someone is white, black or purple; but it sure seems like you care about skin color, especially if you can use the race card to make people feel bad for not supporting your cause. If anything, the media won’t call black voters black for fear of being LABELED racist. And I’m quite certain that McCain/Palin aren’t mentioning the inner city voters b/c they’re not even bothering to target them; they’re smart enough to know that most inner city people are voting for Obama. Why? Because hes black; it sure isnt because hes qualified. |
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| Annie Kate |
October 8th, 2008 7:24 pm ET On the post debate show last night one of the commentators said that racial issues would probably reduce Obama’s votes by 6% – how was that number arrived at? That really disturbs this white voter. That would mean that Obama to have a real lead in the race will have to maintain a percentage lead of over 6% plus the margin of error. So with this in mind is this still the close race it was? Does Obama really have a commanding lead now? And if he does, why? Annie Kate |
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| Lorraine Demara |
October 8th, 2008 7:29 pm ET Please Stop and think for a minute ready here goes repeat after me |
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| Sarah, Indiana |
October 8th, 2008 7:34 pm ET OK, first of all, I am a white woman who lives in a small town in Indiana and yes, we sometimes have a six pack around our house. Supposedly I am exactly who Palin/McCain stand for. Let me tell you right now I am NOT who they represent. I am voting for Obama because he has a plan for this country to get us out of this mess that electing the last “Joe six pack” got us into. Personally, the fact that Sarah Palin likes to point out that Barack “isn’t like us” , like that’s a BAD thing is scary. I want someone who’s not like us…I want someone smarter than the “average Joe” running the country. Maybe I’m crazy but my biggest fear is that people will ignore what Obama stands for because they can’t get past what he looks like. If this happens, it will be a tragedy and I can’t imagine what will happen to this country if McCain/Palin are in the white house. |
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| Marie |
October 8th, 2008 8:06 pm ET Rich from Delaware, Obama is white and black, so how can blacks play the race card or cast a racist vote. You obvious hav’nt been around black people before. Blacks are not ignorant. They helped build this country. It’s people like you, Sarah Paling and John MCcain who will finish tearing this country down, and when that happens, there will be no place to run or hide. |
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