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September 12th, 2008
04:18 PM ET

The Obama-Palin dream ticket

Ruben Navarette
Columnist San Diego Union-Tribune

On the excitement meter, the winning ticket is clear: Obama-Palin.

For months, Democrats have swooned over a political celebrity who doesn't fit the profile of past presidents.

Though a great communicator loaded with charisma, he has little Washington experience, as you might expect from an outsider who promises change. And because change frightens people, he brings out the naysayers, some of whom resort to racism to attack his character.

Now, Republicans are swooning over a political celebrity who doesn't fit the profile of past vice presidents. Though a great communicator loaded with charisma, she has little Washington experience, as you might expect from an outsider who promises change. And because change frightens people, she brings out the naysayers, some of whom resort to sexism to attack her character.

A new poll finds that Barack Obama and Sarah Palin are, for their respective tickets, to quote Reggie Jackson, the straw that stirs the drink. With most polls showing the race tied, it looks like half the country is rooting for Obama and the other half is rooting for Palin. Joe Biden and John McCain are just along for the ride.

A CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll found that, if Americans could cast separate votes for president and vice president, "Obama-Palin" would win. Palin would wallop Biden, 53 percent to 44 percent.

Obama would beat McCain, 49 percent to 48 percent, which falls within the poll's margin of error. Some will call this simply a case of Americans reacting positively to something new and different - in this case, an African-American seeking to become president, and a woman vying for vice president.

Personally, I think there is more to it. I think many Americans know enough to understand how difficult it was for a Barack Obama or a Sarah Palin to get this far. If they don't, they're learning every time their candidate gets muddied. And, because they see Obama and Palin as underdogs, they'd like to see him - or her - succeed.

This historic race has made Americans realize how tired they were of the white male monopoly on party tickets. In the history of this country, only once have we strayed from the model of two white males running on major party tickets. Geraldine Ferraro's vice presidential bid in 1984 is the sole exception.

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  1. Darryl - Florida

    McCain/Palin vote will ensure us that we will be in the same state of emergency. Bush with ALL his experience could not fix America. So why not try something different... VOTE O'BAMA / BIDEN 08... WE NEED CHANGE..

    September 15, 2008 at 10:03 am |
  2. Alex

    Amid all the political rhetoric and "historical" value of this election, almost everyone has forgotten that what is REALLY at stake in this election. It is and always has been whether it will be the Republicans or Democrats who win the White House. Obama and Palin are merely the vehicles to achieve this all important "victory" and any secondary successes ( the first African American or first female to achieve the Vice Presidency) is nothing more than "icing on the cake." But you can bet those at the top of both parties haven't forgotten their goal for achieving that power while the average citizen gets lost in all the poliitical rhetoric and choosing sides in arguments debating the issues. Sad when you think about it mostly because the average citizen only seeks a better life while the wealthy and priviledged seek to maintain their strangle hold on power.

    September 15, 2008 at 8:48 am |
  3. Rahni, Connecticut

    Palin is not a Hillary Clinton and believe me she is a nightmare not a dream. Obama is smart and experience to run the white house. Unfortunately, we had a great deal of so-called experience presidents unfortunately, they ran the united states of american into the ground and that excludes President Clinton. This time around, I'm going to try something new. It's time for a Change from the regular norm.

    Rahni, Connecticut

    September 15, 2008 at 7:27 am |
  4. Idil

    I am baffled by the turn of events. The coverage of the race has turned into a grand circus show. Palin comes into the mix, the media is trying to find information on her, folks that know there are inconsistencies to be found there panic and call the media elite and bias, but ironically they even admit all the attention and coverage of the governor has increased her popularity. In all honesty I don't think the digging into her record is bias, if anything I feel that the media is not covering the other side and is enamoured with this new player. Case in point, how much have we heard about what Biden has said to respond to Palin? Not much, we usually see Obama's replies and then commentators say "why is Obama even engaging her?" And then another 2 hours of coverage spent on the apperant "she is getting into Obama's head" theory. What? Are you guys serious? The truth is Biden is speaking out and pointing out those inconsistencies, he is simply not getting any air play. The media is not elitist but simply after the newer story, after all they have to pay some bills and need something interesting to alure viewers. And as a woman.....all this talk about sexiest coverage, the hypocracy blows my mind. Signs all over displaying "hot VP" at the republican convention are the double standard. I applaud the republican VP for not hiding her femininity, being strong minded and not apologizing for it, but she is not going to get my vote because of that. The issues is what I am interested in, not the popularity contest winner. And finally, for all those that say Matt Damon was wrong in making the famous comments about the disney movie. Why are we dancing around this. If I am to elect someone to run this great country, I do want someone that is smarter then the average guy, that has seen the world and can use the understanding that comes from living abroad to good use. That is not to say that we look down on small-town folks. You need someone with a wide range of qualities, and I believe among them should be a certain element of experience with exposure to the world. Why is that considered elitest. Wanting the best of us, the one that not only has leadership experience and qualities, but is also most cultured should not be looked down on. Quite frankly among the four candidates 3 have this quality and 1 does not, that alone should be reason enough for her readiness to be questioned. This has nothing to do with her gender, and it is unfortunate that among all the other qualified female republicans, she was chosen for such an important position. And media folks, stop asking her if she can handle the job... being a mother and all. That is sexiest. I don't care how many kids she has, obviously if she said yes, it means she weighted her personal responsibility and has a plan on how to make it work. We should not be second guessing her!

    September 15, 2008 at 3:45 am |
  5. Alan D Kern

    Thomas Friedman called it like it is on CNN's Fareed Zakaria Hour on 9/14..."John McCain ...The Bridge to the 19th Century!" If I were Barack Obama I would endorse this message every minute of every hour of every day until the election.

    September 15, 2008 at 3:08 am |
  6. Sharon Hanson

    Obama and Biden – please, America, vote for our future and the future of our children. Obama and Biden!!

    I'm 61 years olds and have never been more frightened of any election when I think what our world become with McCain and Palin.

    September 15, 2008 at 12:08 am |
  7. Brad Poulos

    I call BS on this...Two years ago PELOSI announced a comprehensive Democratic plan to reduce fuel prices and American dependence on foreign oil. Since then fuel prices have risen at a rate greater that any time in history. And she refuses to allow a vote in the house when almost 80% Americans want an up or down vote on energy issues.

    Party-line programs and policies are not the answer. It never has been.

    Palin/Obama would not work any more than Pelosi/Cheney or Obama/Hillary. EGO and PARTY LOYALTY over the interest of Americans is the problem.

    Twenty years ago the media would have played the role of relatively unbiased moderator of the BS factor from campaigns. Today, the media we depend upon for NEWS has selected their candidate and report a ONE SIDED editorial perspective. Most Americans don't bother to find out what the implications are from each candidate's plans.

    THE STAKES ARE TOO HIGH FOR IRRESPONSIBLE REPORTING

    September 14, 2008 at 11:22 pm |
  8. Teresa

    Obama/Biden are our only hope to take the economy reins away from short-sighted Republican chaos. After weeks of bank and investment company failures, we just this moment learn that Lehman will file bankruptcy tonight before the markets open, Bank of American will step in to buy Merrill Lynch for half of it worth just a few months ago, and AIG (one of the nation's largest insurance companies) is seeking tens of billions of dollars in emergency federal aid to prevent its failure. This is a repeat of the Saving and Loans disaster, which Republicans (and particularly the Keating 5, including John McCain) help orchestrate through their irresponsible economic policies. Republicans love to create false economic wealth through inflated values and overextended credit and deficit spending. It's all just fake money and they love it, but their inside buddies strip the value out before the rest of us get a clue. Big surprise that after 9/11 and the fallout in the financial markets, the Republicans did everything they could (in concert with the conserative judges and agency appointees who refused to enforce existing laws) to juice the housing market. They (particularly former HUD head, now senator Mel Martinez (R)) encouraged brokers' kick-backs, fraudulent fees, loan churning, and other predatory lending practices to get those numbers up and keep driving the housing market. The fraud and excess has been so massive and has been the underpinning for all the other false economic "growth" under Bush that it is not surprising that the house of cards comes tumbling down. Be assured that the CEO's got out early and with hundreds of millions in value cashed in before the rest of us had any hint of this. This is what happends when the corrupt (White House) lead the corrupt (conservative appointees and the Republican controlled senate and house for most of Bush's 8 years. This is the Republican economic policy – take as much as you can as fast as you can while regulators and enforcers look the other way. This is the ultimate in corporate welfare as the taxpayers take the hit, whether the government bails them out directly or not. If you don't want another 1929, you have one choice: Obama/Biden.

    September 14, 2008 at 11:08 pm |
  9. Sonja

    A few words...One who shoots animals from a plane is not a 'hunter', but a "killer", and real 'hunters' know the difference.
    It is almost laughable, Palin's idiology of abstinence, no birth control and so called "pro-life", when there are millions of children in foster care, in this country alone. There are countless couples and singles looking to adopt, yet are on waiting lists for years for chilldren in OTHER countries because the literal costs are extravagant to say the least, not to mention the prerequisite predudices of age, race, gender and means of every country, especially ours.
    Shame on the ignorance, when faced with truth and reality.
    This planet (the collective "WE"), is absolutely topped off with warmongers who's words spin all but the truth under a facade of strength and a veil of commonality, that is no more than bravado and manipulation of the perceived ignorance of everyone else!
    "We" NEED peacemakers in this world we share, who's strength is not only measured in action, but in the lines of integrity that are NOT crossed, as an individual as well as for the greater good. It is 'our' itegrity as a whole that is at stake.
    I am a forty two year old, white female, who is a professional, an 'auntie', a C.A.S.A. volunteer and an avid Obama supporter.
    I echo the resentment of being lumped into some fabricated 'group' who 'would be' a McCain suppoter. I DO, and WILL vote on the issues and see our country as precious, as well as part of the greater whole of this planet.
    It is ignorance, that fails to see the ploy of putting a female up there for the votes. Most women can identify with her? REALLY?!
    McCain is no leader, and Palin is no Hilary.
    We are a divided country and a divided world, and I am scared...but I am ultimately hopeful, for all whom I love.

    September 14, 2008 at 10:34 pm |
  10. flo

    hey i would like if you would ask america just who mccain is speaking to whe he states obama will raise your taxes. just who in america is the "your" its ceertainly not me and not 85% of ammerica for that fact. if americans vote mccain in office then we get what we deserve.
    americand biggest problems is we will believe anything as long as there is a fairy tale ending attached to it thats how we got in this war mess, jobs mess, housing mess, etc... we can be told any horror sorry as long as we are promised a happy ending how sad

    September 14, 2008 at 10:00 pm |
  11. Leo from Del Rio

    Let's face it: Obama is a novelty and the attraction to him, in part, is because he is a novelty. Let's also accept the fact that McCain "out-noveltied" the Democrat's ticket. Nothing more, nothing less for both parties. The question remains: does the novelty fit better at the top of the ticket or the bottom? Additionally, considering McCains age and medical history, is there a difference between the top and bottom of that ticket?

    September 14, 2008 at 9:50 pm |
  12. RJ

    I don't know about you, but I'm concerned if John McCain is elected President. He's so far out of touch, it scares me. I just cannot imagine this guy, with his policies, turning our economy around. His generation has had the chance. Please? Let's move on because I cannot afford four more years. It's not a slogan. It's my reality.

    I don't want to engage in another war. Russia is back in Georgia, Israel is on edge, China holds our national debt in its banks and is driving the cost of resources up on the open market, border security is a major issue with Mexico where drugs, weapons, and human traffic is out of control, American businesses waving our flag at their headquarters are hiring more foreign workers than ever and expect us to continue buying their products and services, Iran and North Korea want to go nuclear, Pakistan doesn't want our troops on their soil, Afghanistan has not delivered Bin Laden even though he's in their country, the American dream has been deferred as homes plunge over 50% in value by no fault of the homeowner, fuel prices spike in an instant even though we have adequate supplies, food prices have skyrocketed beginning with corn used for Ethanol, everyone wants "green" energy but who can really afford it by today's measure, our economy is in a state of borderline recession-depression although the government will not admit it, the Treasury is bailing out banks as the FDIC takes them over and we're being bombarded with hurricanes and tropical storms.

    We have not begun to address the shrinking middle class, the growing poor, teen pregnancy, social security, expensive and inadequate healthcare that causes bankruptcies, veterans benefits, HIV, diabetes, cancer, mental illness and so much more.

    America has become DISORGANIZED and Republicans want a third try. Are you kidding me?

    Thanks, but no thanks!

    September 14, 2008 at 7:23 pm |
  13. MaryAnn

    Sue, people like lampe and the others don't want to see the truth. They see what they want to see as we witnessed when Bush was elected the 2nd time. We all knew he was not a good president but America voted him in again.
    I don't get it either. McCaine-Palin are not the better candidates, but sometimes America put their blinders on and make terrible decisions. Let's hope that America will choose the Obama-Biden ticket. All we can do is choose in our hearts who is the most competent team to take care of our country and care about all Americans and not certain interest groups. Believe me Bush, Cheney, Karl Rove, and even McCain are filthy rich in comparison to 8 years ago. There is a reason.
    The war....Colin Powell told Bush if you break it, you own it. Bush did not take heed and look where we are. Those young men and women who lost there lives or disabled from the injuries not to mention the mental issues they have incurred. People open your eyes, let's clean up the white house elect OBAMA-BIDEN. Let's not have regrets electing McCain-Palin....LET'S WAKE UP AND DO THE RIGHT THING.

    September 14, 2008 at 6:56 pm |
  14. Rob [Welcome Community Organizers]

    Cindy,

    Do yourself a favor and drive to the worst neighborhood in your state. Forget the fear factor and start from scratch with absolutely no resources to develop a plan, motivate poor and those who have given up on themselves, work tirelessly to turn the community around. Even mayors, governors, and Presidents don't do that.

    Sen. Obama has. So, your point regarding experience is just a sound-bite you heard on the evening news. Comb his record and see for yourself why this candidate has emerged from the crowd as the leader of the Democratic Party.

    It's easy to sit back and make criticism until you've had to do the work. If you make a difference in a community where jobs have been lost, the infrastructure is dilapidated, the hopes and dreams of the people are just live another day, you will quickly realize that a community organizer does far more for far less than any politician in Washington.

    In fact, if Washington were filled with this type of thinking, we would not be in Iraq. We would have never supported Bin Laden against Russia, we would not have an oil, job, housing, healthcare, social security, racial, sexist, homophobic society.

    If Mother Theresa were running for office, would you question her experience? Look in the mirror and ask yourself if you, too, have been consumed by racism because that is what this is all about.

    September 14, 2008 at 6:47 pm |
  15. erik

    What nobody is pointing out is the simple image the McCain ticket is running and banking on. We are electing Mom & Dad to run the US with Sarah Palin playing the simple stay at home frugal mom roll balancing the books taking care of the kids and McCain will be out there bringing home the bacon and protecting the family from evil. It works for the Low-info voter because it makes sense and is safe. We don't need another mom and dad we need representatives & leaders whose actions surpass their own "personal" understanding and experience.

    September 14, 2008 at 5:47 pm |
  16. Ner

    Remember her "Executive experience?" She's right on track with that; her current "experience" is with the state and federal investigations. She's well versed in the "executive" aspect, taking the position of Executive Privilege so she does not have to produce evidence of State of Alaska e-mails and other records pertinent to the allegations. Does this sound familiar (Bush, Cheney, et.al). She's R to the core! Watch out!

    September 14, 2008 at 4:41 pm |
  17. stick2u208

    Obama is a smooth talker but his talk is the same crap a drunk gives a woman in a bar room. Women are not stupid. We no longer have to guess what he thinks of us. He trashed Hillary. For that matter He trashes Sarah. Obviously womens issues are not the matter here. He never even considered Hillary. Were sick of the media trashing women Senators and women Governors. Lets vote for a female VP. To hell with the librials lets vote for a woman. Hell has no fury like a woman scorned B.Hussein is going to feel some heat!

    September 14, 2008 at 4:27 pm |
  18. stick2u208

    B.Hussein Obama doesn't give a breath about women issues. He had 15 million reasons to choose Hillary. So why didn't he select Hillary? He chooses an old school typical male for our VP. I?m sick and tired of the denial the feminist blow hard excuses. They don?t speak for me. If women issues mattered at all to Obama he would have at least vetted her. No he just trash us; and where was Opera, Rossie, the View, or anyone like Nancy Pelosi, or any of the other of the liberal women. I say let's send Obama him 15 million reasons to rethink his positions. It's time to make a woman VP

    September 14, 2008 at 4:21 pm |
  19. jr jr

    i think the obama/biden ticket is just fine as it is.. even suggesting 'palin' alongside him makes me feel all weird. so let's all just 'simmah down now'. sara palin should NOT be let anywhere near the white house or be 'next in line' for anything other than possibly another 4-year governorship of alaska. each of us who feels this way (or their own version of this way) needs to NOT let up on stomping for the obama ticket. that may be the only hope we have to save us from economic destruction (to mention only one topic...) under mccain and his shortsightedness. i do agree with the the one comment above that stated something to the effect that it doesn't really matter who or which one gets elected... this is somewhat true sadly but not something to allow you to sit back and just watch what happens. participate! also we need to come outside ourselves a bit in our thinking and see how we will be 'seen' by the global community. please, not another stiff smirky good ol' boy. obama is who we need for our future.

    September 14, 2008 at 3:18 pm |
  20. Fran

    I must say Sarah Palin seens to be a true American!! At least she did not attend a church (for 20 years) where the pastor preached "down with whitie), "God damned America" and America deserved 9/11. That tells me something about the character of Obama. I say God bless Sarah Palin and her family.

    September 14, 2008 at 3:13 pm |
  21. Frances

    I am offended as an american, that the democratic nominee is calling himself an african american. According to reports I've heard he only spent one month with his father, when he was ten. Raised by AMERICANS.

    September 14, 2008 at 1:39 pm |
  22. natty

    i cannot understand after eight years of total mess how people can go with Mcain/Palin ticket ? Mcain is 90% with Bush. This message needs to go the people more seriously. Nobody can save this country if we miss to choose the right person this time becoz we are in such a huge mess thanks to the leadership of Geroge Bush.

    September 14, 2008 at 1:08 pm |
  23. Sohail

    The more I know about Sarah Pallin the closer she appears more like George Bush than John Macain I dont think any one can name three significant issues on which she is diffrent George Bush.

    September 14, 2008 at 12:07 pm |
  24. sharon huntley

    Anderson – this ticket would be like oil and water. Barack refuses to resort to lies and Sarah Palin supports all of the lies being told about her.....bridge to nowhere, trip to Iraq, pork barrel spending. The McCain/Palin ticket is the sleeziest ticket in the history of a presidential race. Wake up America.....she has the I.Q. level of George Bush.

    September 14, 2008 at 10:54 am |
  25. Jeremy

    To Ms. Brenda Harris...
    If you would like to get your point across about wanting a black president, don't be so descriminatory with your words. Yes Obama is black, but he is also white. Let me ask you this, you mentioned the fact that he is white in your comment, but does the news mention this. Does he endorse it. No!!! the only endorsement is his muslim heritage and his wifes radical black behavior. What exacatly did she mean by the way, when she said, " I'll take care of that when we get in there" when asked about moving into the "White House" and how she felt about it, if Obama were to be elected. In my opinion America is not ready for a black president, and most cerainly not one of Obama's stature. He talks at the American public, not to them. Listen to his speeches, does he actually provide any sort of solution to the problems that he says he will fix? When I watched his speech at the Democratic National Convention I heard him say one thing, that he believes that a one armed man can build a car in 5 minutes. He says what people want to hear and provides no source of problem solving. And let me ask you this, Ms. Harris, if it is such an outstanding possession for him to be half white, to help us along if you will, then why does that not ever come up...?

    September 14, 2008 at 4:45 am |
  26. tony

    Please all this talk about experience is a distraction.
    George Bush has a lot of experience first as governor of Texas and then 4 years as president with a majority in the house and look where we are now.
    Please people stop this experience thing. look at George Bush and you will see that it is baseless.
    Vision and management of ideas and inspiring the intellect of America to create new things an to build new bussiness that is what America needs now and not a fighter and a divider

    September 13, 2008 at 2:59 pm |
  27. MW / Calif

    I agree with you Sue in MA. You know what they say . . . ignorance is bliss. And unfortunately, ignorance is the reason that we have had 8 years of hell.

    September 13, 2008 at 2:49 pm |
  28. keith

    Want to see what obama has in store for us; just check out Public Allies.

    September 13, 2008 at 12:55 pm |
  29. keith

    I thought that interpretation of the constitution was useful if you were going on the Supreme Court.

    September 13, 2008 at 12:52 pm |
  30. Marcia-Phoenix, AZ

    An Obama\Palin ticket. Nah! Talk about the dumbing down of America. If Republican voters are can be foolish enough to buy into the Sarah Pailn "reality show" they lack good common sense. Is Palin the Republican presidential candidate, or McCain? The issues are what is important, not Palin canned rhetoric speeches. When will we hear how the Republicans are going to fix this mess they have gotten this country into? Never! The answer is clear. It will be more of the same old GOP brand of politics.

    September 13, 2008 at 11:24 am |
  31. Greg

    Bill Clinton/Colin Powell couldnt turn this country around, so does it really matter which of these horrendous tickets actually wins? Paralelling this to a sports draft , all 4 candidates are late round picks or undraftable at best. Even if you threw them all into a meat grinder, you would be hard pressed to get a single solid candidate as result, which is why stories such as this one have surfaced.

    September 13, 2008 at 10:18 am |
  32. Claudia in Virginia Beach

    I loved reading everyone's posts and reading so many intelligent comments! I support Obama but have kept an open mind about the other candidates...until McCain selected Palin as his running mate. As as US citizen, I find his choice irresponsible and am left with the opinion that his future choices (if elected) would be just as irresponsible. I am disappointed that much of our election coverage is geared toward the reality TV mentality when it needs to be about the issues. The debates should make it obvious that Palin is severely lacking the knowledge and good judgment to be our Vice President. I hope the GOP viewers will take the debates seriously instead of playing it off as her being attacked. Cast your vote based on issues – not race, gender or popularity.

    September 13, 2008 at 8:47 am |
  33. Pat

    Anderson, I think the majority of Americans would agree that the McCain/Palin ticket has gone beyond all common sense and reason.
    I feel quite confident most Americans would agree the only reason Palin is on the ticket is for Hillary votes. Further, I'm sure the majority would agree she has no qualifications for the position and no matter which they spin it, this couldn't possibly equate with their noble Platform, Country First. In fact, McCain by appointing Palin has given Americans the opposite, Country Last by possibly putting Americans under a Commander who is not even close to being able to handle the position. Her interview has more than made that clear, coupled by her lack of qualitications, political, intenational experience, and warped views on social issues.

    September 13, 2008 at 8:35 am |
  34. Gene Penszynski From Vermont

    P.S. Maybe just maybe the REAL dream ticket should be Obama and BILL Clinton in this Alice in Wonderland world unreality TV.

    September 13, 2008 at 8:11 am |
  35. Gene Penszynski From Vermont

    Gary,
    I agree with you but it isn't only the media. They have been merely seduced to act as messengers over the last eight years for dogma propogated by the likes of Karl Rove and company into nudging the media in this direction. Just look at those press conferences and staged events of the Bush administration. If this were the 1970's Cheney would be in jail for his complicity with Haliburton and I am certain G W Bush would have been impeached long ago for getting us inot a war using forged documents and ot right lies. What HAVE we become ? The G W Bush adminstration seems to have just dumbed down the entire nation to the point where American Idol and NASCAR rule all of our decision making processes. It's almost as if the American Eagle and Constituion have been replaced by the fat guy with the big belly and the hard hat with the two beer can on each side and a loud and resounding BURP as symbols of
    America !

    My God in lieu of the disasters this administration has caused over the last eight years I'd give anything to even have Bill Clinton back in the White House. Affairs with White House pages and all ! Remember back in those 'good ole days' we were not engaged in a meaningless war and we actually had Budget Surpluses and a resonable foreign policy with internation respect for our people and our government !

    September 13, 2008 at 7:59 am |
  36. Linda

    Americans it is very sad that even when the whole world is watching you, you still want to go ahead and elect into office people who have demonstrated that they can lie straight in your faces! With Mccain/palin ticket you will be the laughing stock of the world, your economy will crumble like never before, your children will die in countless wars and innocent civilians in other nations will be killed ruthlessly. Give us a break! Am so glad not to be an american!

    September 13, 2008 at 4:55 am |
  37. J. Ray Bakersfield, CA

    Obama Palin ticket, never! Palin has been in government for less then 2 years and a mayor of 7000 people for 6 years and she is already caught up in scandal and misused of power, she lies and stretches the truth, a typical politician. People forget Obama is know fool. He has attended Columbia University and was the top of his class at Harvard Law School. He has experience poverty helped the those in need as a community organizer and struggled to pay his tuition. Palin has a degree in journalism. Obama Palin never well I guess it could work only if Palin was VP she could learn somethings from Obama but the risk of something happening to Obama and Palin taking over is not worth it.

    September 13, 2008 at 4:07 am |
  38. Camina T. in Arroyo Grande CA

    Palin and Obama have suffered because of their color or gender? I think not much. There are people who have suffered much much more. The people who have and do suffer more because of their color and gender are not in the Presidental race. They are busy fighting for their lives or they have given up fighting. Palin does not represent women but a woman herself. Obama likewise represents himself not all African Americans. This is as it should be. A male female ticket full of color of course would be a fine thing for America. But I do notice the senior white guy claims to have the most historic civic leadership experience. Well duh. Women couldn't vote till 1920 and African Americans couldn't vote till more recently. This is your point maybe? Progress may not be linear always however. Palin seems like an explosion of the glass ceiling to me not someone who has really struggled her way through. Didn't Clinton suffer more? Obama also has gotten through the other ceiling with style and not alot of bruises. Obama however speaks to the underdog much more than Palin.

    September 13, 2008 at 2:37 am |
  39. Thandi Zulu

    I think some media: they talk more about Obama than Sara, Obama was interviewed so many times he did not say that, he need to go and talk care of family. If she is ready day one to rule she should be ready to get interview day one. Its OK to say bad things about Obama, but nobody should say anything about Sara. We need a president who can handle anything.
    Media are saying Obama will not agree, when he is wrong , Sara did not agree about the bridge to where, about her speeches about the issue was not true.
    Americans, If you want Bush to be in the White house ,for 8 more years, vote for McCain. Bush will still control White house , if McCain is President , that's what nobody has not thought of it!
    Hilary is very good VP ,but the moment she was going to be VP they were going to dig all the bad things about her. They have nothing to dig on Obama new VP. May be there is somethings Obama did not want to pop up for Hilary. I think he saved her respect. They may be nothing but since people will be people, we do not know what they could have said if Hilary was VP.

    September 13, 2008 at 2:20 am |
  40. Colin

    Personally I find Palin to be a media stunt, a distraction from anything of substance. Obama is new to the scene but he has real significant and different ideas that are well thought out. Palin, well she has a nack for towing the party line. That isn't really what I want in a leader these days. Like others have said it is beyond my comprehension how anyone could vote for McCain/Palin. That to me would be like saying yes please I want this country completely and utterly destroyed, lets leave nothing left of it. Obama is no saint and I don't buy his message of change but I guess to me he is a great deal better than the insanity of the republican ticket although the fact that these are our only two real choices is sad, very sad indeed.

    September 13, 2008 at 1:51 am |
  41. Gary

    When are the news moguls going to realize that they have an obligation to public service that should at least match the stated commitment of our presidential candidates?
    Palin is sensational! That sells news. But, just exactly who do the media serve? What ever happened to the need for an informed electorate? Is anybody else tired of the news media’s complicity in selling the cult of personality?
    Do you job! People need to hear about the issues!

    September 13, 2008 at 1:43 am |
  42. Sue, Billerica, MA

    Dear moderators here,

    Do you allow people like the poster lampe to insult other posters and tell them to grow up and try to push their religion and agenda on us as individuals here. I have no problem with that but I thought we were here to give our opinions and not attack those of others but since you allowed his post AT me... I assume you will allow my reply below:

    Dear lampe,

    Thank you for feeling the need to address my OPINION and point out how wrong I am. But I beg to differ, you are poorly lacking in facts for Obama is not going to help terrorists nor does he want to destroy white people, his mother and grandparents that brought him up, probably most of his COLUMBIAN and HARVARD professors, colleagues in the Senate are white and they all respect and admire him and see him as a patriot american and good man. Your bigotry is obnoxious, and your using GOD as a weapon, as I fear may be the ilk of Palin is so unAmerican and against all this country really stands for (read up on what the founding fathers really thought, especially Jefferson, Franklin, Adams etc etc for they were for separation of church and state and were not as religous as you might think for they saw what religious intolerance was doing in the world.. you know the world the likes of you and Palin want to bring back to America and make us as bad as the terrorists with intolerance and delusiosn of doing the will of God etc etc.. You grow up for obvously you are still in some stage of juvenline religious delusions of fairy tales that I believed when I was young and ignorant too but education is a wonderful thing... try it!

    September 13, 2008 at 1:41 am |
  43. Sue, Billerica, MA

    Dear lampe,

    Thank you for feeling the need to address my OPINION and point out how wrong I am. But I beg to differ, you are poorly lacking in facts for Obama is not going to help terrorists nor does he want to destroy white people, his mother and grandparents that brought him up, probably most of his COLUMBIAN and HARVARD professors, colleagues in the Senate are white and they all respect and admire him and see him as a patriot american and good man. Your bigotry is obnoxious, and your using GOD as a weapon, as I fear may be the ilk of Palin is so unAmerican and against all this country really stands for (read up on what the founding fathers really thought, especially Jefferson, Franklin, Adams etc etc for they were for separation of church and state and were not as religous as you might think for they saw what religious intolerance was doing in the world.. you know the world the likes of you and Palin want to bring back to America and make us as bad as the terrorists with intolerance and delusiosn of doing the will of God etc etc.. You grow up for obvously you are still in some stage of juvenline religious delusions of fairy tales that I believed when I was young and ignorant too but education is a wonderful thing... try it!

    September 13, 2008 at 1:40 am |
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