Comments on: Gay marriage: more to come? http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/08/04/gay-marriage-more-to-come/ Tue, 22 Dec 2009 04:00:12 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: kp http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/08/04/gay-marriage-more-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-549643 kp Sun, 01 Feb 2009 22:55:41 +0000 http://cnnac360.wordpress.com/?p=4183#comment-549643 I am only a high schooler and yet I can't belive that I have more common sense than the 40 plus year olds who have put HUMAN RIGHTS on the ballot! Hasn't history taught us enough? Are we honestly that stupid? I am only a high schooler and yet I can't belive that I have more common sense than the 40 plus year olds who have put HUMAN RIGHTS on the ballot! Hasn't history taught us enough? Are we honestly that stupid?

]]> By: KSuzanne http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/08/04/gay-marriage-more-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-270942 KSuzanne Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:22:17 +0000 http://cnnac360.wordpress.com/?p=4183#comment-270942 Tammy of LA ....thank you for speaking truth! I am deeply sorry about your young cousin...BUT I am grateful you shared the story with all of us...we must grow up past this insane thought that our individual morals must govern a nation. That is elitism at its best. If you don't look like me, talk like me, walk like me, marry like me, then you are an outcast. It makes one think, at least one that has the capacity to think deeper and reflect upon these unsettling cultural wars in our society as the repressive thinkers create twists and turns in our history, and as we respond to the cultural isolationists and the theocratic state they try to create for our country....just what is the purpose, the meaning, and where will it take us as a nation to focus on cultural wars, while our nation, our planet, is heating up and life as we know it is soon about to disappear; while our nation is in the business of bullying other countries and reaping havoc on our fellow global citizens; while our own children are sinking in the quicksand of poverty and under education; and our working class is the disappearing class...do we really have time for cultural wars, or is it time to do something different? Respond differently, speak up differently, protest differently? We must be committed to a different action....I am, are YOU? KSuzanne California Tammy of LA ....thank you for speaking truth! I am deeply sorry about your young cousin...BUT I am grateful you shared the story with all of us...we must grow up past this insane thought that our individual morals must govern a nation. That is elitism at its best. If you don't look like me, talk like me, walk like me, marry like me, then you are an outcast. It makes one think, at least one that has the capacity to think deeper and reflect upon these unsettling cultural wars in our society as the repressive thinkers create twists and turns in our history, and as we respond to the cultural isolationists and the theocratic state they try to create for our country....just what is the purpose, the meaning, and where will it take us as a nation to focus on cultural wars, while our nation, our planet, is heating up and life as we know it is soon about to disappear; while our nation is in the business of bullying other countries and reaping havoc on our fellow global citizens; while our own children are sinking in the quicksand of poverty and under education; and our working class is the disappearing class...do we really have time for cultural wars, or is it time to do something different? Respond differently, speak up differently, protest differently? We must be committed to a different action....I am, are YOU?

KSuzanne
California

]]> By: Jose http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/08/04/gay-marriage-more-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-250397 Jose Wed, 06 Aug 2008 04:43:43 +0000 http://cnnac360.wordpress.com/?p=4183#comment-250397 I hope that the advocates in same sex marriage and the Justices of the Supreme Court of California who ruled its legality had come up with substitute words for husband and wife, and father(Dad) and mother(mom) as these words who are used to identify the couple are rendered useless in the same sex marriages. Example in a gay marriage both partners are males so one cannot be the husband and the other wife nor both be called husband. It is also inappropriate to have two fathers for a couple. The same is true with respect to a lesbian marriage. So, it is essential that they should come up with substitute words to identify the couple in this weird marriages before it could twist the brains of our children and even our older people. However, to sum up this kind of same sex marriages, I firmly believed in the wisdom of the 48 states in banning the said marriage compared to the 2 states because of its legal and moral implications particularly to protect and uphold that marriage is an inviolable social institution, a union of one man and one woman for the procreation, rearing ,support and education of children. I hope that the advocates in same sex marriage and the Justices of the Supreme Court of California who ruled its legality had come up with substitute words for husband and wife, and father(Dad) and mother(mom) as these words who are used to identify the couple are rendered useless in the same sex marriages. Example in a gay marriage both partners are males so one cannot be the husband and the other wife nor both be called husband. It is also inappropriate to have two fathers for a couple. The same is true with respect to a lesbian marriage. So, it is essential that they should come up with substitute words to identify the couple in this weird marriages before it could twist the brains of our children and even our older people. However, to sum up this kind of same sex marriages, I firmly believed in the wisdom of the 48 states in banning the said marriage compared to the 2 states because of its legal and moral implications particularly to protect and uphold that marriage is an inviolable social institution, a union of one man and one woman for the procreation, rearing ,support and education of children.

]]> By: Sarah http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/08/04/gay-marriage-more-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-249409 Sarah Tue, 05 Aug 2008 21:49:35 +0000 http://cnnac360.wordpress.com/?p=4183#comment-249409 Our nations motto is "In God We Trust." If we were living up to that then we would be doing what He has asked us to do. We live in a time when more than ever good is being called evil and evil good. Gay marriage is not right. Our nations motto is "In God We Trust." If we were living up to that then we would be doing what He has asked us to do. We live in a time when more than ever good is being called evil and evil good. Gay marriage is not right.

]]> By: kakawa http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/08/04/gay-marriage-more-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-249041 kakawa Tue, 05 Aug 2008 16:00:39 +0000 http://cnnac360.wordpress.com/?p=4183#comment-249041 Since we are on related matter, can Anderson Copper trace the journey of HIV/AIDS to Africa from its origin. That will make a very interesting documentary. I do not intend to put Anderson in a labyrinth, but I know that if somebody can "dig it out" with an open mind and in all honesty; it will be him. Also, what are the factors responsible for the "explosion" of HIV/AIDS after it got to the continental shores of Africa. What part of Africa did it first land. How come HIV/AIDS is concentrated in Africa south of the Sahara. How come there are more incidences of HIV/AIDS among darker skin Africans than there are amongst lighter skin Africans. Please investigate and report to all. Since we are on related matter, can Anderson Copper trace the journey of HIV/AIDS to Africa from its origin. That will make a very interesting documentary. I do not intend to put Anderson in a labyrinth, but I know that if somebody can "dig it out" with an open mind and in all honesty; it will be him. Also, what are the factors responsible for the "explosion" of HIV/AIDS after it got to the continental shores of Africa. What part of Africa did it first land. How come HIV/AIDS is concentrated in Africa south of the Sahara. How come there are more incidences of HIV/AIDS among darker skin Africans than there are amongst lighter skin Africans. Please investigate and report to all.

]]> By: Annie Kate http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/08/04/gay-marriage-more-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-248034 Annie Kate Tue, 05 Aug 2008 01:05:52 +0000 http://cnnac360.wordpress.com/?p=4183#comment-248034 I see a lot of problems if only some states allow "gay" marriages and others do not. Marriages up to this point have been recognized from one state to another if you were legally married; so when I married in NC my marriage was recognized in my home state of TN. With gay marriages right now its only recognized in Massachusetts and California - that isn't equal treatment under the law. Being for gay marriage or not really isn't the point here - the point is for everyone to be accorded equal rights - if a "straight" couple can marry in any state and that marriage be valid in all states then a "gay" couple should have the same. For a country whose constitution embodies equal rights for all this shouldn't be the big debate it has turned out to be. <a href="http://anniekatec.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Annie Kate</a> Birmingham AL I see a lot of problems if only some states allow "gay" marriages and others do not. Marriages up to this point have been recognized from one state to another if you were legally married; so when I married in NC my marriage was recognized in my home state of TN. With gay marriages right now its only recognized in Massachusetts and California – that isn't equal treatment under the law.

Being for gay marriage or not really isn't the point here – the point is for everyone to be accorded equal rights – if a "straight" couple can marry in any state and that marriage be valid in all states then a "gay" couple should have the same. For a country whose constitution embodies equal rights for all this shouldn't be the big debate it has turned out to be.

Annie Kate
Birmingham AL

]]> By: Surafel Melaku http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/08/04/gay-marriage-more-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-247998 Surafel Melaku Tue, 05 Aug 2008 00:43:32 +0000 http://cnnac360.wordpress.com/?p=4183#comment-247998 Just because you are against same sex marriage doesn't mean they don't have right (to marry, life, and such)! We have to agree that we disagree with same sex marriage and move on. We have other issue to worry about than this non sense. And out of respect lets not called them gays, but homosexual. Just because you are against same sex marriage doesn't mean they don't have right (to marry, life, and such)! We have to agree that we disagree with same sex marriage and move on. We have other issue to worry about than this non sense.

And out of respect lets not called them gays, but homosexual.

]]> By: Ruby Coria, LA. CA. http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/08/04/gay-marriage-more-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-247981 Ruby Coria, LA. CA. Tue, 05 Aug 2008 00:26:31 +0000 http://cnnac360.wordpress.com/?p=4183#comment-247981 Jim..oh Jim.. the Lord loves you too.. and you could ask him or argue with him all you want as to WHY he love you & others.. so go ahead and cast the first stone..& don't forget Men like you don't cry* nor do they ask for mercy..who was better at birth.. Abe or Cain? - Jim..oh Jim.. the Lord loves you too.. and you could ask him or argue with him all you want as to WHY he love you & others.. so go ahead and cast the first stone..& don't forget Men like you don't cry* nor do they ask for mercy..who was better at birth.. Abe or Cain? -

]]> By: seah ohio http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/08/04/gay-marriage-more-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-247958 seah ohio Tue, 05 Aug 2008 00:13:17 +0000 http://cnnac360.wordpress.com/?p=4183#comment-247958 It should be reversed in California. The majority of Californians were against Gay Marriage and they made the law with pressure of the minority. In disregard of what the people wanted. Making a law on a choice of sexual preference will set a precedent of being able to enact laws on sexual values and sexual choice. It should be reversed in California.

The majority of Californians were against Gay Marriage and they made the law with pressure of the minority. In disregard of what the people wanted.

Making a law on a choice of sexual preference will set a precedent of being able to enact laws on sexual values and sexual choice.

]]> By: Tammy, Berwick, LA http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/08/04/gay-marriage-more-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-247954 Tammy, Berwick, LA Tue, 05 Aug 2008 00:10:47 +0000 http://cnnac360.wordpress.com/?p=4183#comment-247954 If you're quoting Leviticus you also burn in hell for eating shellfish (assuming you read the whole passage and take all of it literally). While I'm not gay, I sure have eaten my share of crawfish, crabs, shrimp, oysters, and lobster. So I guess I'm sinful and burning one day as well based on that passage. For the record, my God never said love between two people regardless of gender was wrong. He's a bit more accepting of all His kids than that. The gay hate movement is what helped my 19-year old cousin fear coming out last year and fear it to the point where he took a gun from his parents' house and killed himself. Ain't growing up in strict Roman Catholicism grand? Every state should allow gay marriage and the same rights for couples no matter what gender. Every state. That same God the religious whigged out right loves to quote also said "Whatsoever you do to the least of my brothers, that you do unto me." The last time I checked He considered everyone a brother or sister. And maybe if we remembered that message instead of the doctrine of Leviticus, we'd all be a lot more loving as a nation. It's a thought anyway. If you're quoting Leviticus you also burn in hell for eating shellfish (assuming you read the whole passage and take all of it literally). While I'm not gay, I sure have eaten my share of crawfish, crabs, shrimp, oysters, and lobster. So I guess I'm sinful and burning one day as well based on that passage. For the record, my God never said love between two people regardless of gender was wrong. He's a bit more accepting of all His kids than that. The gay hate movement is what helped my 19-year old cousin fear coming out last year and fear it to the point where he took a gun from his parents' house and killed himself. Ain't growing up in strict Roman Catholicism grand? Every state should allow gay marriage and the same rights for couples no matter what gender. Every state. That same God the religious whigged out right loves to quote also said "Whatsoever you do to the least of my brothers, that you do unto me." The last time I checked He considered everyone a brother or sister. And maybe if we remembered that message instead of the doctrine of Leviticus, we'd all be a lot more loving as a nation. It's a thought anyway.

]]> By: Jim http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/08/04/gay-marriage-more-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-247895 Jim Mon, 04 Aug 2008 23:30:40 +0000 http://cnnac360.wordpress.com/?p=4183#comment-247895 Lisa- You ask WHY? - What Part of IT IS WRONG can you not comprehend- God Said it is an ABOMINATION- THAT Settles it- You want to argue with Him on the issue GO RIGHT AHEAD- Your told the Stove is hot- You choose not to listen & place your hand on the hot stove & get 3rd degree burns Then you can only blame yourself. When God's Judgement Falls- Don't go Crying to Him to Save You- you will not listen to him- He will not listen to you.He said He will judge sin . Lisa- You ask WHY? – What Part of IT IS WRONG can you not comprehend- God Said it is an ABOMINATION- THAT Settles it- You want to argue with Him on the issue GO RIGHT AHEAD- Your told the Stove is hot- You choose not to listen & place your hand on the hot stove & get 3rd degree burns Then you can only blame yourself.
When God's Judgement Falls- Don't go Crying to Him to Save You- you will not listen to him- He will not listen to you.He said He will judge sin .

]]> By: Ella http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/08/04/gay-marriage-more-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-247879 Ella Mon, 04 Aug 2008 23:16:12 +0000 http://cnnac360.wordpress.com/?p=4183#comment-247879 What about extending rights to gay couples who are not married and live in a state that does not recognize gay marriage. In fact, several attempts have been made in Indiana to amend the state constitution to ban same sex unions. That's the backdrop in which the University of Southern Indiana board of trustees voted against a proposal to offer health benefits to employees' same-sex partners. The debate still continues on the newspaper (Evansville Courier & Press) editorial pages and in comments online at courierpress.com. I have no problem with extending health benefits to same sex couples. But as a female who cohabitated with my current mate for nearly three years before we married in 1988, it would be discriminatory if the same benefits were not extended to heterosexual couples. btw, I'm still married to the same man. We celebrate 20 years Oct. 1. What about extending rights to gay couples who are not married and live in a state that does not recognize gay marriage. In fact, several attempts have been made in Indiana to amend the state constitution to ban same sex unions.

That's the backdrop in which the University of Southern Indiana board of trustees voted against a proposal to offer health benefits to employees' same-sex partners. The debate still continues on the newspaper (Evansville Courier & Press) editorial pages and in comments online at courierpress.com.

I have no problem with extending health benefits to same sex couples. But as a female who cohabitated with my current mate for nearly three years before we married in 1988, it would be discriminatory if the same benefits were not extended to heterosexual couples.

btw, I'm still married to the same man. We celebrate 20 years Oct. 1.

]]> By: Roland RIchey http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/08/04/gay-marriage-more-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-247789 Roland RIchey Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:51:40 +0000 http://cnnac360.wordpress.com/?p=4183#comment-247789 Economic Boom or Bust? There are a lot of social study reports out there that show that Gay Marriage is an economic drain on state social services. I.e. Boys raised in a home without a male role-model are 3 times more likely to land in jail. And European countries that support gay marriage have substantially more out-of-wedlock births, another huge drain on state social services. And there is more. Economic Boom or Bust? There are a lot of social study reports out there that show that Gay Marriage is an economic drain on state social services. I.e. Boys raised in a home without a male role-model are 3 times more likely to land in jail. And European countries that support gay marriage have substantially more out-of-wedlock births, another huge drain on state social services. And there is more.

]]> By: Ruby Coria, LA. CA. http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/08/04/gay-marriage-more-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-247780 Ruby Coria, LA. CA. Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:39:33 +0000 http://cnnac360.wordpress.com/?p=4183#comment-247780 We live where? we fight & die for what? human rights? what are human rights?.. My friend (She) who is in Afgan. will be coming home in Nov. & She hope to marry her Girlfriend who has stood by her side these long 6 yrs. of service in "Army Strong" fighting for "Freedom".. most of the country as a hold.. (Cindy in Ga.) needs to wake up from drakness. The power of love* We live where? we fight & die for what? human rights? what are human rights?.. My friend (She) who is in Afgan. will be coming home in Nov. & She hope to marry her Girlfriend who has stood by her side these long 6 yrs. of service in "Army Strong" fighting for "Freedom".. most of the country as a hold.. (Cindy in Ga.) needs to wake up from drakness. The power of love*

]]> By: Willow, Iowa http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/08/04/gay-marriage-more-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-247773 Willow, Iowa Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:35:47 +0000 http://cnnac360.wordpress.com/?p=4183#comment-247773 I don't think its anybody's business who someone wants to marry. I know several couples that have been together for over 20 years. and they have this little spark of hope that maybe, finally, after all these years, they can get married. I would hate to put that spark out. Its time for everybody to be allowed to be married to their partner of choice. And before some neo con says something about marrying the goat down the street, you know what I mean. lol I don't think its anybody's business who someone wants to marry. I know several couples that have been together for over 20 years. and they have this little spark of hope that maybe, finally, after all these years, they can get married. I would hate to put that spark out. Its time for everybody to be allowed to be married to their partner of choice. And before some neo con says something about marrying the goat down the street, you know what I mean. lol

]]> By: Caren in Los Angeles http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/08/04/gay-marriage-more-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-247763 Caren in Los Angeles Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:26:46 +0000 http://cnnac360.wordpress.com/?p=4183#comment-247763 What I don't understand is if MA and CA can both allow anyone to come to their state and get married, then what happens when the newlyweds move back home? What happens if someone gets sick or god forbid, happens to die? Does their homestate then have to turn to either MA or CA for legal action? Can that even happen since their homestate does not consider their marriage legal? What's the point of allowing everyone to come to 2 of 50 states to get married if 48 won't consider it legal? Unless all 50 states agree to legalize gay marriages (which they should) how is this going to help anything but CA and MA's economies? It seems like it could be a potential legal headache in the future. What I don't understand is if MA and CA can both allow anyone to come to their state and get married, then what happens when the newlyweds move back home? What happens if someone gets sick or god forbid, happens to die? Does their homestate then have to turn to either MA or CA for legal action? Can that even happen since their homestate does not consider their marriage legal? What's the point of allowing everyone to come to 2 of 50 states to get married if 48 won't consider it legal? Unless all 50 states agree to legalize gay marriages (which they should) how is this going to help anything but CA and MA's economies? It seems like it could be a potential legal headache in the future.

]]> By: Jessica http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/08/04/gay-marriage-more-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-247760 Jessica Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:24:26 +0000 http://cnnac360.wordpress.com/?p=4183#comment-247760 For the sake of our country i hope that there are no more states that follow Mass. or Cali. and theat these states revoke the decisions they have made. Yes as someone else has stated God created everything in the universe, however He also said that we need to go forth and multiply. How do you expect for us to multiply if we are marrying the same sex? I do have friends that homosexual and they are great people but thet doesnt make what they are doing with their lives right and no i cant make them change. However i can do my part to stop the spread of this universal understanding of wrong. For the sake of our country i hope that there are no more states that follow Mass. or Cali. and theat these states revoke the decisions they have made. Yes as someone else has stated God created everything in the universe, however He also said that we need to go forth and multiply. How do you expect for us to multiply if we are marrying the same sex? I do have friends that homosexual and they are great people but thet doesnt make what they are doing with their lives right and no i cant make them change. However i can do my part to stop the spread of this universal understanding of wrong.

]]> By: GF, Los Angeles http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/08/04/gay-marriage-more-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-247726 GF, Los Angeles Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:04:33 +0000 http://cnnac360.wordpress.com/?p=4183#comment-247726 Wow Cindy...that's some incredible crystal ball you got there. Wow Cindy...that's some incredible crystal ball you got there.

]]> By: mark hoffman, Phoenix AZ. http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/08/04/gay-marriage-more-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-247582 mark hoffman, Phoenix AZ. Mon, 04 Aug 2008 19:47:18 +0000 http://cnnac360.wordpress.com/?p=4183#comment-247582 Funny, how it's all about money. Yeah the law was originally intended to placate the racists element of the states and repealing it is a good idea in the interests of fairness. However, I'm wondering if it was found out that the repeal actually wound up somehow costing the state money, would those "fair-minded lawmakers" really have taken the "high road"? I doubt it. Never underestimate the power of hate. Funny, how it's all about money. Yeah the law was originally intended to placate the racists element of the states and repealing it is a good idea in the interests of fairness. However, I'm wondering if it was found out that the repeal actually wound up somehow costing the state money, would those "fair-minded lawmakers" really have taken the "high road"? I doubt it. Never underestimate the power of hate.

]]> By: Claire http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/08/04/gay-marriage-more-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-247556 Claire Mon, 04 Aug 2008 19:24:04 +0000 http://cnnac360.wordpress.com/?p=4183#comment-247556 I have to agree with Lisa. I don't want people speaking for me. Cindy, by saying "Most of the country as a whole doesn't" is taking a lot of liberty. There is no way to know what "most" people think. If someone has an issue with it that's fine, people are entitled but to tell others what they can and can't do is beyond opinion. I wish these people against stuff like this would worry about their own lives (because lord knows they aren't perfect) instead of worrying about what others do with their life. Two people getting married effects NO ONE but themselves and family. I wish people would stop the judgements! I have to agree with Lisa. I don't want people speaking for me. Cindy, by saying "Most of the country as a whole doesn't" is taking a lot of liberty. There is no way to know what "most" people think.

If someone has an issue with it that's fine, people are entitled but to tell others what they can and can't do is beyond opinion. I wish these people against stuff like this would worry about their own lives (because lord knows they aren't perfect) instead of worrying about what others do with their life. Two people getting married effects NO ONE but themselves and family. I wish people would stop the judgements!

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