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July 21, 2008
Did Obama make a mistake?
Posted: 11:00 PM ET

David Gergen
CNN Sr. Political Analyst
AC360° Contributor

Hello everyone - tried to post a blog earlier but I am afraid that it got lost in the system - perhaps it was eaten by that dog!

Anyway, to be brief, was trying to say tonight on air that I welcome the Obama trip overseas - and hope it sets a precedent for all future candidates. At the same time, as an old-fashioned institutionalist who was strongly shaped by working in the White House, I believe that whether a President is right or wrong on policy, we have only one President at a time and he must be the chief negotiator with other countries, especially in a time of war.

It is not clear that Senator Obama was trying to negotiate with Maliki - probably just the opposite - but in issuing that statement after the meeting, he left himself open to the charge that he was.

That’s why I thought it was a mistake - the first in what has been so far a very successful trip.

Hope this helps. Thanks.

Editor’s note: Here’s what David Gergen said Monday on AC360°:

“Barack Obama made the first mistake of his trip in releasing a statement in which he said exactly what Malaki had said in those conversations. We have a long tradition in this country that we only have one president at a time. He’s the commander in chief and negotiator in chief.

I cannot remember a campaign which a rival seeking the presidency has been in a position negotiating a war that’s underway with another party outside the country. I think he leaves himself open to the charge tonight that he’s meddling, that this is not his role, that he can be the critic but he’s not the negotiator. We have a President who does that.

So i think the underlying facts support him, but i think it was be a mistake to get intro these conversations and let it be used politically.”

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178 Comments
Karen   July 21st, 2008 11:17 pm ET

It definitely was a mistake for Obama to get into this overseas trip. He appears as a school boy out of class and trying to be “big” in an adult world in which he does not belong. He does not appear presidential at all if that is his goal. Why would world leaders receive him anyway? He is only a wishful political candidate.

Kathryn   July 21st, 2008 11:18 pm ET

Maliki’s speaking to the German press first makes it appropriate for Obama to speak to the public about his discussion along the same lines with Maliki. It was confirming of what had already been said publicly by Maliki.

Shannon   July 21st, 2008 11:18 pm ET

Mr. Gergen, I appreciate your clarification, but I can’t help but recall the many times that McCain has referenced his talks with Malaki. He reported that Malaki had at that time told him something different. I think that we would expect Obama and the delegation to talk about the overall war in Iraq and its goals, as this was the purpose of their visit. I just did not see anywhere in what he reported that would insinuate he was negotiating. Naturally, I am sure he liked what he heard. However, Malaki had this position before ever meeting with Senator Obama and thus it does not sound like Senator Obama took this occasion to persuade him to his viewpoint. Had he not said what he did this past weekend, I think suspicion would be much higher.

Laurie   July 21st, 2008 11:19 pm ET

I don’t think that Barack Obama made a mistake unless he was told things in confidence. Obviously there has been a lot of back and forth on this topic since last Friday when it first came up.

I think that Maliki was being honest with Obama and may be trying to distance himself from Bush and McCain.

I think that Obama knows the difference between being discrete and letting out comments kept in private.

I have a lot of respect for David Gergen and really like his honesty though. Thanks for all you do, Mr. Gergen.

Mike   July 21st, 2008 11:21 pm ET

You guys are nuts,,,Obama did not negociate anything with Malakie..He just widened the the frame of the debate by bringing to light something that would be kept under wraps by the current administration…We the people are paying for this mess and we the people deserve to know what all sides are really thinking…It’s called transparency, and any tradition to with-hold information should be laid to rest…We the people are not that stupid….

GregSF   July 21st, 2008 11:22 pm ET

By now, it actually seems that Sen. Obama did not negotiate anything. He was merely restating his personal position. It is interesting that these world leaders are only too happy to meet with this presidential candidate. In my humble opinion, Sen. Obama does look very presidential, much more so than our current president ever has.

MG Scott, Greenland, AR   July 21st, 2008 11:22 pm ET

No, Obama did not make a mistake. He did what the majority of the American people want…..withdraw from Iraq. Bush and McCain do not listen to the American people. It’s time someone steps up to the plate….Obama has done that.

Tootie Hagan   July 21st, 2008 11:22 pm ET

Hi Anderson, I am for Obama but he is not President. He needs to just get info and not make policy. I suppose he can say what he would do if he was President but he needs to contain himself to fact finding…..Just listen. It is amazing when we just listen. He does not to have to make policy. Listening is the best. Keep track of the info.

I gotta say I am a little disappointed in Obama’s recent endorsement of
the surge. He was against the war in Iraq….I see him fip-flopping.

Tootie

Alan   July 21st, 2008 11:22 pm ET

David, I have to for the first time, respectfully disagree with you and that is because the media has muffled the voice of the Iraqi people here in America. This isn’t the first time I’ve heard of the Iraqi’s talking of the American combat forces withdrawing from the region and the fact that someone finally said it and the media “HAD” to report it is a good thing. The oblivious American population need to know what the Iraqi people want, not what George Bush or John McCain wants.

Don Pickens   July 21st, 2008 11:23 pm ET

Oh come on. As if George Bush and Cheney have played by any of the rules. Like the Geneva Convention. The Consititution. UN resolutions. FISA statutes.

Barack Obama is doing what over 2/3 of the American people want, which is to put an end to this war. We can’t afford it, we don’t want it, and the sooner the Iraquis will take over and let us leave, the better. Now is not the time for “courtesy” to a 28% President.

Obama’s right, our efforts in Afghanistan are spread too thin, and the real enemies are the Taliban and al-Queda. That’s where we need to be, and the sooner he can make it happen the better. Including now.

Joerether Chandler Simons   July 21st, 2008 11:23 pm ET

David Gergen says thar Senator Obama made a mistake by discussing troop withdrawal with Malaki; however, according to everyone who was in the meeting Senator Obama did not discuss troop withdrawal with Malaki. Would someone please check the story I would hate to have Senator Obama accused of saying something that he did not say.

Carlo   July 21st, 2008 11:23 pm ET

Hi David,

I greatly respect your insight and your delivery and I always look forward to your commentary. I would point out that the “Obama Statement” is actually a “joint-statement” from Sens Hagel, Reid AND Obama. I noticed that it was first introduced on CNN as the “Obama Statement”. I’m not sure if that changes your perspective. I believe that it’s customary to have such releases from bi-partisan delegations…..is it not? Best Wishes.

Liv   July 21st, 2008 11:24 pm ET

I agree with Gergen. Politics are not simple, and one has to be cautious what goes out in public, and where is the proper place of the person.
He is so eager to be president, that he already acts as one, but he is not there yet…. this is the impression we get. The president has to be respected while in the office. If not - then we have….. anarchy? or weak country ? or …..can someone name it?

Les From Lakeland, FL   July 21st, 2008 11:24 pm ET

AC,
Am I wrong, but is your show being sponsored by the RNC? You constantly criticize Obama and few if any of your comments are positive. Point of fact, Obama is looking Presidential on this trip and you are failing to mention it. Also why not a mention about Teflon John’s comments today about the Pakistan/Iraq border? There is none AC…just as there is no longer a Czechoslavakia. Seems a man with all of this foreign policy experience would have a better grasp of world geography…don’t you?

J.W.L.Lewis   July 21st, 2008 11:24 pm ET

Sometimes David Gergen speaks when he has nothing to say. This was one of those times. Maliki had released a statement before Obama arrived. Where then is the so-called negotiation? Next, McCain is continuing to say that there is no negotiation because our military decides when to leave. Poor John flunks 7th grade civics class. We, not the military, decide. I guess that means the we Americans are “the decider” after all is said and done.

Bruce Ohms   July 21st, 2008 11:24 pm ET

Yes. Obama made a mistake. He let himself be used by the current Iraqi government. I finally made up my mind on who I will vote for.

Neal Malmsten   July 21st, 2008 11:25 pm ET

I think Mr. Gergen doesn’t have his facts straight. The news I saw reported Senator Obama as saying that he did not discuss the timetable with alMalaki. Rather that announcement came from the Iraqi governmental spokesman. Unless Mr. Gergen has different sources, what I observed tells me that Mr. Gergen made the serious error. Senator Obama has been clear that there is only one president at a time. As a responsible journalist, Mr. Cooper, you need to have the facts to respond to allegations like this. There’s a right and a wrong here, and it is your duty to find the truth and report it. We will be watching.

Julliet   July 21st, 2008 11:25 pm ET

I completely disagree with you David on this one. I always admire your way of looking at issues from different angles. Obama released a statement with his fellow senators who were travelling with him. A joint statement from three people does not look like a negotiating deal reached by Obama and the Iragi govt. Also the Iragis have been saying what Obama and his travelling senators just released in their statement. Does not seem like a mistake to me.

nelson   July 21st, 2008 11:26 pm ET

I don`t think that is a mistake in anyway,I think he was just reporting what transpired between them on the issue of the withdrawal of american troops and it is actually a confirmation of the position Obama has been advancing since the begining of his campaign.

annette   July 21st, 2008 11:26 pm ET

David, I think you may have made your comment ,re: Obama’s statement recounting what PM Maliki had stated, was a bit overstated. It did not added any personal comments from Sen.Obama, only the Maliki statement, please think about the impression you are making when you are firmly being incorrect in your assessments. i do believe you probably was interested in responding to the request for you to comment.,next when in doubt about what to say, take pass. Sen Obama has enough trying to fight off the worst of the Republicans and ther lies.

Jimmie   July 21st, 2008 11:26 pm ET

This is blatant misreporting. Obama did not mention his thoughts about withdrawal during his meeting with Maliki. It was Maliki’s office who brought this up after the meeting. Also, you failed to note that Obama stated at the start of this trip that there was only one president, and that he was only going to be listening. If you are going to report the facts, please get the facts right.

ACE   July 21st, 2008 11:27 pm ET

Wasn’t this by the way, a joint statement by the tree Senators? I mean whenever senators visit war zones, they come back and report what they see? Besides there is nothing said here that has not been said over the weekend.

John Spain   July 21st, 2008 11:29 pm ET

President, excuse me, Senator Obama did not make a mistake. He needs impact statements from foreign leaders so a good decision can be made by him about Iraq as President. It may be tradition to not make private statements public. However tradition is what Senator Obama wants to get away from, hence his platform of change. If I were MCCain I would be very careful about what he says about his next boss. Since he has turned his back on Vietnam Vets (Agent Orange Issues) by not supporting benefits for Blue Water Navy he has lost a great deal of respect from his fellow Vietnam era Veterans. I think this is called forgetting where you come from. The Vietnam Blue Water Navy Vets owe Democratic Congressman Bob Filner a huge debt for his untiring efforts righting this injustice.

Lorie Ann, Buellton, California   July 21st, 2008 11:29 pm ET

Hi David Gergen,
I agree with your take on this. No matter what anyone thinks of President Bush, he still is the President. No candidate running for the future office, should be sending out statements about private meetings on such grave topics as this. Our troops are on the ground and politics are not a game to be played lightly.

Lorie Ann, Buellton, Calif.

olu   July 21st, 2008 11:29 pm ET

This election is not just about United States.The WORLD wants OBAMA.He is the right candidate to lead the world. Let the OLDIES go to the rocking chair.

KC   July 21st, 2008 11:29 pm ET

No he definitly did not make a mistake. I live in Mexico and we get a different slant at “your” news. When are we Americans going to realize that we live in a global-political world? We need a leader (or soon-to-be-leader) that establishes him/herself globally, diplomatically and, when asked, militarily.

John   July 21st, 2008 11:30 pm ET

The President is the Commander and Chief of all military forces. As such, going to a combat area and talking and posing with the troops and their Commander are a direction violation of protocol. Obama visiting with the Iraq Prime Minister is also a violation of protocol and allows a foreign government to interfere with the policies of our Government. Obama is not the Commander and Chief and his trip to Iraq is just further proof he will do anything to get elected. Fact finding, Ha!

Maura   July 21st, 2008 11:31 pm ET

Surely you’ve been monitoring other news sources, including CNN itself and if so, you should know that contrary to what you stated and what was commented upon by David Gergen, Obama did NOT broacH the subject of a timeline for troop withdrawl with the Iraqi heirarchy. Indeed, he deliberty stayed away from that subject and I seem to recall that just prior to the trip, Obama commented that there can only be “one President at a time.” It was Malaki who commented on the subject in an interview with a German publication and a day prior to Obama’s arrival in the region. So, to flatly state that Obama was meddling in the current administration’s affairs, is factually incorrect and completely misleading. I’d be grateful if you could clarify that point in your next story on this subject. I’m sure there will be one!

Also, I’d like to say that Gloria is a lightweight. She offers nothing, no new insights or revelations, to the conversation. I hate to say that but it is true.

Melle Sensibaugh   July 21st, 2008 11:31 pm ET

I am all in favor of Sen. Obama or whomever can have meaningful discussion with the leaders of Iraq doing so. President Bush certainly hasn’t accomplished anything with them. I don’t care whether it’s “customary” for the President to negotiate or if it’s the local newspaper courier. If it brings about getting our troops out of Iraq then more power to him. When is CNN going to get off of the “kick Obabma” mentality? As a Senator he has every right to speak with world leaders for the benifit of the US. I, for one, who unfortunately voted for Bush, will be voting for Sen. Obama and supporting all of his efforts. He brings people together and is so good to have a candidate who I believe can bring about the change necessary for our country.

Betty Baker   July 21st, 2008 11:33 pm ET

No, Obama had not made a mistake visiting with foreign leaders regarding the current conditions and future ramifications of the war he will be dealing with IF and When he is elected as president.

He has merely proven that he is probably one of the smartest presidential candidates we have had in a long time. He will be ready on day one, if elected. That is how smart leaders conduct and keep a thriving business. It works the same way when conducting America’s business. Day one. Ready. He has already been to study hall and has an idea of what needs to be done.

Balbhadra Das   July 21st, 2008 11:33 pm ET

Mr. Anderson: As I understand it, Obama has taken this trip for finding facts. Once he and other senators found facts and the reporters asked them, aren’t they supposed to tell facts as they found them??? Ask David that for me. You can’t have it both ways. Dam if you do and dam if you don’t. News men are funny that way. Aren’t they???? They will get you both ways. But public understands it better than the newsmen. Thanks you—B. Das

james   July 21st, 2008 11:36 pm ET

Obama as stated above did not say anything about bringing troops home with Malakie.

David Gergen I lost repect for you and the others on cnn for your statement about Obama. Please speak the facts next time.

Malakie was distance himself from the lost cause of Bush, Mcain,and (RNC).

karen……. lost person

John Ainsworth   July 21st, 2008 11:37 pm ET

Mr. Gergen…. That statement by the group on this trip did not in any way imply “negotiating” of any kind on the part of the Senators on this trip with Al Maliki.

Why would you say something like this??? It was a straightforward statement. It did not reveal any private discussion at all.

I’m lost on your reasons for making these remarks…. You are usually very fair and right on the mark???

Doug   July 21st, 2008 11:38 pm ET

John McCain spouts out everything discussed every time he goes to Iraq. This was not meddling. He did not negociate. He only repeated what Malike said to the German Press. It never ceases to amaze me how you people try to destroy a candidate. I am sure the right wing radio will do a good enough job of taking what he said out of contex without your help. I believe this is probably one of the most true statements we have heard in a # of years. We now know the leaders of Iraq do not want us there forever.

plb   July 21st, 2008 11:38 pm ET

Karen,

The world leader are welcoming his for serveral reason…

Maybe because there is a concern about nuclear warfare, and it is a welcome change to speak to a leader of the free world who can actually pronounce it.

Maybe they are sick and tired of a person whose education was paid for, and still could not manage above a “C” grade running around telling them what they should be doing in their countries.

Maybe the world has move beyond the U.S obsesson with “Manifest Dystany”

The list can Get over it…

Anthony   July 21st, 2008 11:39 pm ET

Like Kathryn said Mr. Gergen, Maliki had already made these statements himself known to the public before Obama himself confirmed this, so that is not meddling.

And Obama certainly wasn’t negotiating, that’s absurd but I understand that you are talking about perception. It was a discussion and simply a continuation of Maliki’s own statements in the last couple of days about the desire for a timetable. In fact, it’s very possible he asked Maliki if he could make those statements public…nevertheless…America has to know the truth and thanks Obama for telling us.

Of course, the McCain camp will try to turn this into a drama that really isn’t and it will die down because it will be much ado about nothing as the truth is revealed.

Contrary to Karen’s statement who obviously hates Obama no matter what he will do or say, I think he is looking explosively presidential out there…McCain has been looking like the least presidential candidate since probably Dukakis for a long time now.

Elisabeth   July 21st, 2008 11:39 pm ET

There was no “mistake” on the part of Obama - he was heeding the words of the President of Iraq. There is always “double-speak” about the US intentions in Iraq from the Bush administration, so its good to set the record straight in terms of what the Iraq’s are really saying - they want us out of their country. No surprise - the whole thing is a disaster. Hundreds of thousands are dead. That was a mistake.

We need some hope and we got it — that the US troops will get the honest answers they need about their deployment and time in the services fighting terrorism. That will go a long way to beginning to heal the devastaing effects of Bush and perhaps Senator McCain’s policies.

SuzyQ   July 21st, 2008 11:40 pm ET

Obama may get more coverage but he gets alot more criticism than does McCain.

Elizabeth   July 21st, 2008 11:41 pm ET

Obama shows his inexperience by allowing Maliki to use him for his own political gains. This was certainly a war that should never have happened but now the US cannot leave Iraq until it is safe for the citizens of Iraq. Their country was the birthplace of civilization, many of it’s institutions that were thousands of years old have been destroyed, innocent Iraqi citizens have been killed and their lives forever changed because Bush & friends rushed to war for their own agendas.

The Iraqi people did not want this war and while Sadam Hussein was a very bad man so are many others who are still in power and the US is doing nothing about that, perhaps because they don;t have oil. It’s time to realize that by not holding Obama to higher standards that the US will have another inexperienced president that can cause problems for years to come. The citizens elected George W Bush even knowing all the sad facts about him and are still willing to take on another man who says much but does little.

SuzyQ   July 21st, 2008 11:41 pm ET

I think that the media gives alot friendlier coverage to McCain.

Roget E Ferguson   July 21st, 2008 11:41 pm ET

Gergen and friends have not been paying attention to what the people want! The people don’t want politics as usual even dealing with other countries and their leaders. Doing things the same way has got us in the situation that we are in now! You can’t continue to do things the same way if you expect change! CHANGE IS WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT! Thats what the country want and the Republicans are not willing to make those type of changes that is needed to move this COUNTRY forward! Our so called Commander and Chief hasn’t done much to even be considered representing the wishes of our country as a whole! Obama hasn’t tried to negotiate anything. They need to stop crying because things aren’t done the same as they have been done in the past.

Chester Boyd   July 21st, 2008 11:42 pm ET

Anderson, what in the world are your participants doing. All day long, like Sherlock Holmes, your would be prognosticators and self defined know-it-all “TV pundits” have had their microscopes on every move of OBAMA in Iraq, waiting for any little move that they consider negative to Obama’s mission. One of your participants implied Obama was negotiating when, actually, he only reported what Malaki said in opposition to our president’s policy in his land — or is it his land. Obama observed, listened, and reported. I truly believe this political competitor, like Tiger Woods is bringing something to our Political competition that first has a complexion darker than the usual players — non traditional. He causes massive love snd curious audiences to appear when he speaks– non traditional. His opposition has thrown the kitchen sink and then the kitchen at him, and he creates practically a movement for his candidacy — non traditional. Please, tell your detracting participants that people who cause changes in this world are — non traditional. Witness Jesus, Mahatma Ghandi, and Martin Luther and Martin King to name a few. Just sit back, separate yourselves from this political movie, and just report on the spectacle — traditional ratings desired be damned.

Jane   July 21st, 2008 11:43 pm ET

Gergen just gave McCain his talking point but I also don’t see where Obama has made any mistake here. McCain is desperate now and will grab onto anything he can to try and discredit Obama. So far, Obama has had a very impressive and interesting trip abroad. Go Obama!!!!

AL of Texas   July 21st, 2008 11:43 pm ET

Oh no David, you’re wrong on this one. This statement was a follow up report submitted to the public by a Senate group of three. I read it carefully and didn’t get the idea this was a negotiating session. I didn’t read they gave the Iraqis anything and I don’t they the Iraqis gave them anything. I don’t think Senators Obama, Hagel and Reed are that dumb!!! This was not an Obama solo statement.Repeat a statement from 3 senators 2 Democrats, 1 Republican.

Actually, there’s really nothing new in that statement that we don’t know. Malaki’s weekend timeframe statement to German press, the memo sent by the Iraqi government to congress about not wanting permanent bases, immunity to Iraqi law for US lawbreakers,etc.

If anything, the subliminal message is that we need to redirect troops to Afganistan, the sooner the better.

vdkelly   July 21st, 2008 11:44 pm ET

Karen, who you calling a ‘boy’? Your comments are disrespectful and tasteless. You are probably a closet redneck racist!! Mr. Magoo McPain doesn’t even know his geography and what current countries exist and yet you deem him credible? What a joke!! Obama has more knowledge, skill, and better judgement then McPain. White folks just can’t stand when negros are so much better than them can you? Get used to it…Tiger Woods, the Williams Sisters, etc. etc. Africans have always been superior to decendents of euro-trash!!

Mark   July 21st, 2008 11:44 pm ET

There is a difference between campaigning and pretending to be the president. With his “press conference” several weeks ago (with a picture of the white house in the right hand corner of the television screen) to this international trip, Senator Obama has decided to pretend to be president and hope that people are simple enough to follow along. He may be right. I agree with David Gergen. His Middle East trip went too far. This pretending to be president looks at times like a little child walking around in his father’s boots but can cross the line into meddling in foreign affairs.

SuzyQ   July 21st, 2008 11:45 pm ET

Only the liberal blogs are reporting on McCain’s Pakistan/Irag border gaffe this morning. But Obama doesn’t even need to make a mistake and the media questions his actions. I have become a strong Obama supporter after watching McCain’s train wreck of a campaign.

MYQUEEN   July 21st, 2008 11:48 pm ET

No, he did not. As a Senator, he is allowed to repeat the comments of the Prime Minister. The comments were public before they were private. Gergen is an operative for the repubs. On each question regarding Obama, he (Gergen) turns the conversation to try and bolster up McCain. TPM#1 for the week: “Obama should not be meddling.” Now he has been reduced meddling…when are you guys going to learn how to report the news and stop trying to influence the public sentiment?

Jerry   July 21st, 2008 11:48 pm ET

You guys at Cnn is just trying to come up with a charge or blunder on Obama’s because his trip so far is successful. Mccain has oftenly refferd to PM Mlilkit when argunin a point. Its appauling to accuse Obama of negotiating with Maliki as if Maliki would negotiate with anybody other than the President. First of all, Obama repeating what Maliki said is different from negotiating. Anybody can repeat what Maliki has said including Obama, how would it be percieved if Obama didn’t disclose any of the discussions. I think Cnn and its repondants are being presumptious of a story and If they wanted a real mistake they should have paid attention to Mccain’s gaffe today stating that Iraq border Pakistan. Now thats a Mistake that you don’t have to think is or isn’t one. Besides I haven’t heard one mention of that on your show. Republicans and Mccains camp want to push media bias but it works to their favor. If Obama was to have made as many gaffes or one or two gaffes Mccain has gotten away with it would be the headline. Instead of trying to find or make up mistakes on Obama, try reporting clear mistakes from the candidate Mccain himself and stop brushing them under the table. To talk of media bias. Mccain had several mistakes and gaffes that should have ended his presidential campaign If anybody was interested in being fair. Instead the media would rather hold Obama under the microscope while teflon John makes as many mistakes, gaffes, as possible. I’m a Obama supporter and I am all for the media giving all of the attention to Mccain and I bet Mccain’s campaign would end within 2 months.

James in Oregon   July 21st, 2008 11:52 pm ET

When is CNN going to start reporting the News instead of trying to fabricate the News ?

It’s not going to work this election cycle , we the people are paying attention and are more then willing to keep the media honest.

Wendy Ontario, Canada   July 21st, 2008 11:53 pm ET

I don’t think Obama said anything that wasn’t already made public by the Iraq PM. He obviously didn’t feel the info. was private as he gave the statement to the German Press. I’m sure if McCain was in the same position he would be quick to confirm HIS plans were in line with the Iraq PM? Obama was there on a fact finding mission & reported a very important fact to the people, the fact is, the Iraq PM wants troops out as much as the American people do. Well everyone except McCain, who seems to want this war to continue indefinitely. It’s a shame McCain can’t or won’t focus on Afghanistan where there is desparate need of more troops.
I do agree with you on most things David, keep up the good work!

EJ (USA)   July 21st, 2008 11:56 pm ET

I have a lot of respect for David Gergen and really like his honesty though. Thanks for all you do, Mr. Gergen.

We should throw a party for David.

How about we hold this party at David’s house? Let’s say sometime in early August? How’s that sound David? Also you provide the food & drinks for everyone.

miguel gonzales   July 21st, 2008 11:56 pm ET

It is so obvious that the press,perhaps trying to respond to the criticism that they are favoring Sen.Obama are just waiting to pounce on any percieved mistake or slip up that they can manufacture. This was clearly demonstrated by Mr. Gergen tonight. Senator Obama never indicated that he was negoitiating anything with the Iraqi Prime minister,neither was he saying anything that was not public knowledge from last friday.Incidentally,the statement attributed to Sen.Obama was in fact issued jointly with other members of the official delegation including a Republican senator.

Grady Hines   July 21st, 2008 11:58 pm ET

Senator Obama was not out of line at all. The statement released about his discussions with Malakie was, after all, a statement jointly released by him and two other Senators (one a Republican). If that’s what Malaki said, then what he said is a fact. It’s that simple. How can anyone interpret the reporting of that fact as negotiation?

eric nong   July 21st, 2008 11:58 pm ET

Hey guys, this is my first time participating on this blog; mainly because of the disturbing news going on about the so call “Biased Media!”
Sincerely, from a viewer’s point of view i think everything is fair. McCain should have learnt by now that even politics is governed by the laws of demand and supply! Most definitely not by equity and empathy! As an advice, he should make himselve more marketable to us- the viewers. For the past couple of weeks ( tired from a stressful day), you don’t wanna sit and watch a republican maneuvring. Their stories suck! If the media must show us McCain, they must also remember we got a whole range of choice- simply i switch to Dicovery Health or better still warm my bed.
Please guys( media), you must obey the laws of demand and supply that govern our markets! If that be the case, then more power to your elbows.

Cortez   July 21st, 2008 11:58 pm ET

Actually I think that Obama did not make the mistake. It was President Bush who started it all by taking swipes at Obama when he was in Israel talking about Obama policy on meeting with foreign leaders with or without preconditions never have I ever heard of a sitting president taking swipes at a nominee from overseas, and then when McCain was down in Colombia and how the media tried so hard to connect it with the fact that McCain was there at the time. I think Obama was justified in the fact that Maliki agreed with Obama’s timeframe for troop withdrawal.

Kelly   July 22nd, 2008 12:01 am ET

I don’t think that Obama made a mistake, because other prominent Americans have visited and talked with world leaders internationally. Why is it suddenly bad to do so as a presidential candidate? Mr. Gergen, I wonder if you all may be taken aback by it because it is not the same old approach. Yes, it veers away from tradition, but unless what he did is expressly prohibited, that’s just another example of “change we can believe in.”

Other bloggers have also made important points, and if they are true, they completely dismantle your argument against Obama, in my opinion. If it is true that McCain has stated what other world leaders have told him, then Obama would be unfairly chastised. Also, if it’s true that Maliki’s timeline was previously published, then it should also be no big deal for him to say what happened in their meeting.

Finally, I’m a bit confused, and I’d appreciate clarification. Everyone agrees that this was a fact finding mission, and if so, wouldn’t it be right to state the facts of what occurred?

Chris S.   July 22nd, 2008 12:02 am ET

Well you thought wrong David Gergen. Obama is not negotiating with Iraq. Take a chill pill. You can’t negotiate in a one day visit. He had every right to release what he and Malakie talked about. Mccain did it and so what. You should understand that the media is there with Obama; to see him make a mistake which you are trying to assume. You guys think youre so slick. Lets wait till he really makes a mistake.Well David this really hurt your credibility.

c gay   July 22nd, 2008 12:03 am ET

I am so thankful that CNN is not the only news to watch on television. Before Obama left the United States PM Malaki suggested a time line of 16 months for the US troops to vacate his country. Then a German interpreter publishes this and then Senator Obama repeats what has been said and he is accused of negotiating. Publish some of Senator McCain’s real mistatements. He has plenty. Or doesn’t his real mistakes count?

John   July 22nd, 2008 12:03 am ET

David, I usually agree with what you say, but just do not see where Obama made a mistake. Maliki made his views known on Fri and met with Obama Mon. Now how did Obama negotiate Maliki into saying something he said Fri even before meeting Obama.

I guess the MSM is just trying to find fault where there isn’t just to please the McBush campaign.

Gloria also just went along and didn’t correct David!

Danice   July 22nd, 2008 12:06 am ET

I agree with everyone here except for Karen. He said nothing that hasnt be blasted all over the news for the past 3 days. So what is the problem.

Dan   July 22nd, 2008 12:07 am ET

We are not in a war in Iraq! We won the war in 3 weeks by obliterating their army! It is a security operation! We are effectively a police force for another nation. Of course the surge worked! If you add more police to high a crime area, crime goes down. The question is, “should we be a police force for another nation on our dime?” At the very least, if we are going to stay there, the Iraqis should pay for our services. If they are unwilling, they clearly don’t value our services and we should leave!

Ed   July 22nd, 2008 12:08 am ET

I normally like your assessments but in this case you are off base, Prof Gergen. I understand the concern but what Obama did is not negotiation and needs to be put in context. Nobody thinks Obama can make decisions on behalf of the US now. But, McCain has consistently and unfairly claimed Obama naively did not understand Iraq or al Qaeda or the wishes of Iraqi leadership, and that a long term committment to Iraq was necessary, something Hagel who went through Vietnam too understands is deja vu and a fallacy. Obama did not negotiate, he simply showed that the Iraqi leaders agree more with him than the so-called expert, McCain, on staying in Iraq over the long haul, refuting McCain’s bogus assessments, and that if he gets elected what kinds of changes he will make. The world is ready to meet with Obama and relieved to understand that if Obama is elected the US is not committed to being tied to the failures of a lame duck and discredited Commander in Chief once McCain who wants to continue those policies in Iraq is defeated. Bush’s personal obsession with Iraq at the expense of Afghanistan which should have been our top priority has harmed this country beyond belief.

jerry   July 22nd, 2008 12:09 am ET

I think David Gergen was wrong. As always, he looks for any thing bad to say about Senator Obama. When has David ever stated anything wrong abot Mccain. Mccain in his recent gaffle this morning on all the morning shows, confuses the borders of Iran,Iraq and Pakasten.
Enough said on were Mr. Gergen bias lies.

Sue - Ohio   July 22nd, 2008 12:11 am ET

Quit the spinning

Obama did not “negotiate” anything.

Stop the Lies

Let’s talk about the Iraq/Pakistan border that McIdiot was talking about this morning on the morning shows.

JC- Los Angeles   July 22nd, 2008 12:13 am ET

Judging from the current state of our nation, one could argue that there have been an endless number of unqualified leaders, executives and politicians who have contributed mightily to our nation’s destruction.

That being said, it would seem that the last thing that we need now is a neophyte telling people what they should do; right?

Four short years ago, Obama was a community organizer; judging from Chicago’s urban violence, one has to ask what he organized; now he’s telling everyone how to run the Middle East; say what?

The only choice that’s less palatable is John McCain; it’s as if he’s not even running; he’s acting as if he could take it or leave it; I guess he figures, win or lose, his wife’s still loaded.

If France can have a supermodel as a First Lady, I guess we could have either Obama or McCain; I’m still trying to figure this one out.

steve   July 22nd, 2008 12:14 am ET

He most certainly has to visit the war torn area.Security bubble or not he gets a better feel for what’s going on and it makes him a smarter listener.I think Mr.Obama understands that”the smartest person in the world is a person who knows he doesn’t know everything” and consequently he will put smart people around him.

farah   July 22nd, 2008 12:15 am ET

Although I appreciate your clarification above, I do NOT appreciate you using the word “negotiate” on air tonight. That is not what Sen. Obama was doing and you were wrong to say it that way.

Fernando Otero   July 22nd, 2008 12:16 am ET

I can’t believe we are talking about Obama’s alleged mistake. He has been right about a timeline, Afghanistan, negotiating with Iran, and the coverage he gets is that he made a mistake. I tend to think that the coverage by AC360 is fair, but today it wasn’t.
One more thing, McCain “misspoke” again this morning talking about the border of Iraq with Pakistan, shouldn’t this get some air time?

Brad   July 22nd, 2008 12:16 am ET

I believe Mr. Obama made a huge mistake for several reasons. First, he is a candidate not a president or even a secretary of state. He makes our country look very weak by trying to “get a better understanding” of what is going on but at the same making it look he has power when he does not.

Second, he is a senator with very limited experience and he does not know what he is doing. This is big league he does not know the game he is playing.

Finally, all the middle east knows he is weak and will to negotiate and they are standing in line to get his handouts in exchage for peace and there will be no peace. Obama will compromise the US that will make Clintons weakness and screwups look like a sissy teanage girl. Obama does not know what he is doing, pure and simple.

serenus   July 22nd, 2008 12:18 am ET

Searching for mistakes during Obama’s trip, the “Least Trusted News on TV”, once more is “CREATING FAKE NEWS” by missrepresenting facts on the ground. Did Obama say anything new beside repeating Malaki and other Top Iraqi official’s statement regarding 2010? NO.

CNN, you guys really have got to try hard and represent us the American people. We deserve better, no more SMEARS, and LIES!

We realize you all want McCain to be President, why else would you cover Obama so much with Negative News??

Jeannette   July 22nd, 2008 12:22 am ET

I realize that it is very difficult to pick apart this trip that McCain has been counting down on his website, but now that the Senator is there, he is expected to have intelligent conversations that position himself to be a leader in the eyes or the world. Obama knows when to speak and when not to. McCain did not shut his mouth for a second with his plan…Oh yeah, he is in lockstep with Bush…he thinks he is the President! Obama, do your thing!

Tanya   July 22nd, 2008 12:22 am ET

No mistake at all. Gergen used the word “negotiate”. Nothing was negotiated. Barack, along with Hagel and the other senator, released a joint statement on what has already been aired and reported in the media. Maliki is hoping for a December, 2010 timeline for withdrawal. He said it was a fact-finding mission and clearly, those are the facts.

Furthermore, I’m sick of my hard-earned tax dollars going towards the “war” when Al Quaeda is stronger than ever and still planning attacks on our country — from Afghanistan — which is where they were in the first place! HELLO????

Don H, San Diego   July 22nd, 2008 12:24 am ET

I think Obama wisely sowed some seeds that he is capable of a deeper understanding of the many sides of an issue. He gets a two-for-one bang out of this, as he comes across as more capable (and thus, capable) than the current administration (not necessary a high bar), and he gains over McCain, as there appears to be traction for his 16 month timetable. Obama certainly seems both diplomatic and presidential - which are characteristics George W. Bush would benefit from.

It is unfair to all the Americans the Bush administration “fails to hear” other views on how to end our current occupation. You could next argue that Jimmy Carter should not have undertaken his personal mission - but again there seem to be opportunities in the middle east that Bush and Rice can’t get to stick. What kind of representation is that for America?

Will   July 22nd, 2008 12:26 am ET

Based on Sen Obama’s statement, it seems like he’s doing his job. How can you conduct a “Fact Finding” mission without talking about the issues at hand?

Since the US is still a Democracy, I assumed he was obligated to report what was said. A USSR / KGB secret meeting, with a bogus generic press release afterward, would not have been enough for me.
Every Senator that’s been there has done the same thing. CNN has all of their videos and/or quotes.

So the better question is, Why is the media buying into & adding to the McCain Camps propaganda? These are some of the same Spin Doctors that sold the idea of this war to us, via the MEDIA , from the beginning. Mr. Green’s headline statement will be repeated out of context from now until November.

Congratulations Mr. Green, you’re John McCain’s tool.

Tom   July 22nd, 2008 12:26 am ET

I noticed Obama’s surrounding audience was made up of mostly black troops.
Each shot was around 40 with 2 to 3 white or Hispanics and at the top R.H. corner was the wording Dept. of Defense.
CNN.com once listed race and gender but have deleted this on their website.
The latest casualties were 3,600 + white - 314 black and a couple of women.
So where were the white troops to greet their future president?
Serving their country, no doubt.

Gary Chandler in Canada   July 22nd, 2008 12:26 am ET

Why can’t anybody shine a light on McCain’s ‘plan’ to boot Russia out of the G8 and bar China? Last week the Russians began patrolling Arctic waters; not done since the Cold War.
If Obama has no ideas and McCain has crazy ideas on how to deal with Russia and China, shouldn’t that be ‘discussed’?

Beth   July 22nd, 2008 12:27 am ET

Of course he is negotiating because he and his followers think its over and is already president… Better watch out for that October Surprise!

Bernie Mann   July 22nd, 2008 12:28 am ET

David Gergen made a mistake. First of all, Obama was NOT negotiating anything. He has been very explicit that the U.S. has only one President at a time and he is not it. He has said this several times. So, he would not negotiate on behalf of this country. However, he is a U.S. Senator on a Congressional Delegation trip to the Middle East in his capacity as a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. I’ve seen countless Senators and members of Congress hold press conferences after speaking with world leaders stating exactly what these leaders said during conversations. So, Obama has every right as a U.S. Senator to discuss these conversations.

Gergen is wrong, this time!!

sarah B....Durham,NC   July 22nd, 2008 12:34 am ET

David….i can def. see what u say about leaving himself open to the charge of meddling….and yes i think it has also been a Successful trip for him!!….i’m sure you know this but this is my take after Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice statement sent out about the difference in partianship by fed. employees and what restrictions are put into place for these such trips….were both for Obama and McCain..(when he last visited months ago). As Senators they do have “privileges” for meeting with foreign officials and diplomats…which can include anything related to their Senate work and to provide classified briefings to ensure they were up to speed on recent developments and U.S. policy positions. when Obama traveled to Afghanistan and Iraq this week as part of a “congressional delegation”…..with this i do not think it as “meddling”…but simply “meeting” with officals….discussing the issues….there def. are clear and defined lines…i dont think any were crossed…..but that is just MY opinion…i’m sure others will disagree! thanks David for clarifying and being thorough….i highly respect and love your contributions to CNN…especially when you BLOG!!~~

Jackie in La Habra, Ca   July 22nd, 2008 12:37 am ET

How much do these trips cost us?????

Jose   July 22nd, 2008 12:39 am ET

What the? A mitake? Obama even clearly said on Saturday that he was not there to negotiate, he even said the same exact thing as you Anderson! “there is only one president at the time”. Boy, CNN is really desperate to find SOME mistake with Obama’s trip.

June   July 22nd, 2008 12:40 am ET

Mr. Gergen,

First of all the statement released was not just by Obama. Two additional senators issued the statement with Obama. So again, you get the facts wrong, or maybe you just lied, about Obama . Please explain to me how Obama can negotiate with another country as a senator. What does he have in his power to offer the other country ? Obama has every right to discuss any conversation he has had or will have with anyone he sees fit. He is not beholding to Maliki but to the American people.

You and your so called pundits just can’t stand the fact that Obama will be president. You are trying to come up with anything or make up anything to say he made a mistake. Your lies will not fool the American people, not this time, not this year, not this day.

Ken   July 22nd, 2008 12:40 am ET

Obama negotiating? I think you ought to rethink what you’re trying to say. They sound just as confused as McSame does most days. Either that our ratings need some sort of boost so why not just throw something out there like what the republicans do right? I’m curious if this idea was actually theirs to begin with. No wonder I don’t watch your show.

Aarchana   July 22nd, 2008 12:41 am ET

I agree with the fact that Obama’s doing more than what he should do.
The whitehouse bid still continues and he hasn’t won yet, so he should stop acting like a president and focus on his campaign instead.

Even though I respect his decision to withdraw troops from Iraq by 2010, he will be open to charges if he doesn’t wake up and still continues to play George W Bush.

sis jones...texas   July 22nd, 2008 12:41 am ET

barrack obama has said many times that he is not a man that doesnt make mistakes sometime like we all do..take the man from under the microscope..DUH

Iris   July 22nd, 2008 12:45 am ET

I find it amazing how David Gergen is becoming a sensationalist. David touts years of white house experience, however, he totally lifted the scenario out of context. Mr. Gergen, is becoming more politically incorrect and pandering to making up stories, as oppose to reporting on the facts. Senator Obama, didn’t make a “mistake”. To call it that was out of line. He along with the other 2 senators issued a statement on their findings. If I didn’t know any better, listening to David Gergen, would have made me think otherwise. I have stopping viewing most news programs because of their lack of intregrity. The only program I limit myself to watching has been AC360, now, I’m reconsidering watching it. The “political experts” are beginning to take too much liberty in their versions of reporting stories and NOT sticking to the facts or the truth.

Tony   July 22nd, 2008 12:46 am ET

Mr. Gergen, I think, is one of fairest, most objective, and most disicplined commentators around today. However, I do not agree that Obama made a mistake. As Mr. Gergen stated, ” I think he leaves himself [Barack] open to the charge . . . that he’s meddling….” The mistake of Barack Obama exists only in the minds that relish his down fall.

Steve   July 22nd, 2008 12:50 am ET

Obama looked Presidential. No mistakes here. Sorry Conservatives. And, Biased Glenn Beck should not be doing Larry King Live. He should get a real job…on Fox!

airglo, FL   July 22nd, 2008 12:51 am ET

Anderson, David is wrong in his opinion of Barack’. He did not ask
Malaki , Malaki volunteered his opinion which happened to agree with
Barack Obama’s time-line which has been out there since the debates.
Sen. Obama is doing an excellent job on this trip just like he will when
he becomes President. I won’t discuss Gloria’s opinion in detail
because she usually agrees with whoever speaks first. This time David spoke first so she’s wrong too. Relax people, Barack is human too.
Look at yourselves news media, just waiting with baited breath for a
MISTAKE!
It seems like we the people are still not getting the truth about Iraq.
Malaki wants us gone. Bush & McCain want to stay, in spite of Malaki’s time-line. GET OUT!! STOP DESTROYING FAMILIES

Roslyn   July 22nd, 2008 12:58 am ET

Mr. Gergen,

I have had a great deal of respect for your opinion over the years however your comments tonight sounds awfully strange to me. As the insightful, knowledgeable individual you are, I am perplexed by your comments on both 360 and Larry King. After reading the report release by the 3 US Senators I could only conclude that you and the entire CNN staff have decided that the negative coverage of Senator Obama needs to be more overt and unmistakable. That would explain this unexplainable storyline that Senator Obama said something wrong and he is getting more media coverage than Senator McCain. Why didn’t you talk about Senator McCains gaffe concerning the Iraq and Pakistan borders given his vast foreign policy experience? I find your comments hard to believe from someone of your knowledge and experience. I shouldn’t find it hard to believe given the fact that it was this sane type of media manipulation that got us into this war and trillions of dollars in debt.

Kenny in NC   July 22nd, 2008 12:59 am ET

David, I just finished reading the ststement CNN posted here from the delegation of Senators in Iraq. It sounds to me like they communicated a generalzation of what transpired in their meetings. Maybe some will call that negotiating but I do not consider that to be the case. While I respect and will continue to respect your opinion, I must disagree with you on this one.

mauiboy   July 22nd, 2008 1:01 am ET

Come on! Wasn’t this suppost to be a listening trip? Then he churns out a press conference for political mileage.Listen and keep your mouth shut.Obama will make huge mistakes the closer he gets to Election day.Let’s hope Hillary isn’t one of them It will be Mccain and Romney vs. Obama and Richardson,unless Hillary gets drafted at convention time.You can bet the Republicans won’t be playing softball with Obama the way the press is.Last week Gallup poll had Obama & Mccain in a statistical …dead heat. Obama peaked too fast and now he is coming down to where Hillary & Bill are happy with a weakened Obama,then she can be a “Favorite Daughter” at the convention.Oh yes she kept her Delegates,Oh yes she is still in it! INTERESTING!

vanitea   July 22nd, 2008 1:04 am ET

Mr Gergen your concern is noted, but I thought Obama’s statement sounded more like a senator’s assessment while engaged in an offical fact finding visit — nothing more.

Michelle   July 22nd, 2008 1:10 am ET

The statement is from all 3 senators. Stop taking the bait that
always comes up from the McCain campaign . There is a saying
be careful what you ask for you just might get it. Team 360 I have
one question : how many of the talking heads on CNN said Obama
should go to Iraq in unison with McCain?Take time to compare what
is being said now and then. Maybe if the McCain campaign did not
use the same talking points all of the time people would care. Let’s
face it there is nothing new about John McCain, why would people
listen ?
Also , did you see how enthusiastic the troops were with Obama.
Obama did not make a gaffe , no way no how. The media needs
to really get a grip and to stop overanalyzing the day to day events
of the campaign/ Please CNN stop doing the news like it is 1999.

Mike Reinmiller   July 22nd, 2008 1:11 am ET

I have yet to see anything that makes me feel like Obama is not the BEST choice. Hell, the only choice!
I mean come on.. McCaine?
I don’t think so!

Ann Weaver   July 22nd, 2008 1:12 am ET

I don’t think that it was a good idea. I understand why he did it; but I when I saw the footage I felt like he was out of his league.

Lisa   July 22nd, 2008 1:12 am ET

Obama is doing great ! This is a wonderful opportunity to begin relationships with the cultures of the Mid East who are all about relationship, respect and honor.

LK
American-Israeli
Pro 2 states

JO Wandry   July 22nd, 2008 1:13 am ET

What a political grandstand Obama has created with his “fact-finding” trip. And the news media is fawning over Barack like little children.
Disgusting.

Sharon   July 22nd, 2008 1:15 am ET

Obama is not president and looks ridiculous trying to negotiate as if he were president. His behavior is an insult to the United States Government.

erik   July 22nd, 2008 1:16 am ET

David, from what I saw in the lower of the screen, that was a joint statement from Reed, Obama, and from Hagel on their findings from the congressional trip. I saw nothing that implied that senator Obama was negotiating anything or making any policy decisions.

Ray Cervantez   July 22nd, 2008 1:16 am ET

I hope like yourself David, that foreign trips do become a regular part of presidential campaigns in the future. Especially, in these particular times it helps the U.S. not to look so self centered, in it’s world view. And that we do have a concern about how other cultures see themselves on the world political stage.

Will, Denver, CO   July 22nd, 2008 1:16 am ET

Hi Anderson,

My question is simple, what are the Republicans trying to hide? Why didn’t John McCain, want Barack Obama to visit the middle east? Was it really about Barack’s inexperience dealing with foreign policy.

Angel   July 22nd, 2008 1:17 am ET

WE the people are the ones that Obama needs to be concerned with not the world leaders! THEY are not going to vote for him, WE are! I am not excately understanding who he is trying to impress, WE are paying for this “trip” and he is NOT the president so what he says is really irrelavant to the situation! He should be concerned with what is going on in the US, after all this is where he is running for prsident, NOT overseas, so who cares if they like him or not? THEY ARE NOT THE ONES VOTING FOR OUR PRESIDENT!!!!!!
As far as I am concerned this is the same crude as the summer gas tax deal, doesnt matter what the candiates think, THEY ARE NOT THE PRESIDENT!!!! And no matter who gets elected, they will not have any say until Jan l,2009!!!

Kimball   July 22nd, 2008 1:20 am ET

Why is Obama even traveling in Iraq? That’s why we have a President and Ambassadors. What is he going to do with his “facts” that he finds? Just more proof that he will do anything that is politically expedient, right or wrong.

Brian   July 22nd, 2008 1:21 am ET

This is a much needed public relations trip for Mr Obama. If the U.S. wants credibility reinstated on the World stage, you NEED this man as President.

The groundwork of visiting prominent politicians and heads of state is the precursor for a much needed change of World opinion about US motives and policies regarding not only foreign conflicts, but also the problem of pollution that is killing our planet.

Let’s hope he picks an appropriate ‘running mate’ for the forthcoming election.

Miles Adam   July 22nd, 2008 1:21 am ET

Although David Gergin’s comments are usually on the money, and I admire his clarity of vision, I think he missed the mark this time. Obama is filling vaccuum created by the Bush administration that has failed to talk to the Iragi’s to find out what they wish in their own country. He is holding out hope that this illegal war will be ended soon, and the world needs to know this. As a Canadian, if the USA had invaded us, I like the Iraqi’s, would have resisted in any way possible, and would want US troops to go home immediately.

jason   July 22nd, 2008 1:21 am ET

please stop the liberal bias of your show or i promise i will stop watching and will write editorals to every news paper in my surrounding area proving you keep sensoring me. you refuse to bring david ware on and put him to the task on why he was so wrong about iraq.

Chris   July 22nd, 2008 1:22 am ET

Wow, everyone here needs to realize that there were no negotations made all was said was that they both think the 1600 month timeline is the best Idea you cant put him down

David Smalley   July 22nd, 2008 1:23 am ET

Regarding David Gergen’s comments on Obama’s “mistake” of negotiating with the Iraqi PM, I’d like to know exactly what negotiation took place. Obama went on a fact finding mission, and a fact he found was that Iraq wants a timeline for withdrawal. A negotiation hasn’t been mentioned. Can Mr. Gergen elaborate on how Obama negotiated as opposed to finding facts?

Jonathan Avner   July 22nd, 2008 1:23 am ET

Yes, Obama made a mistake. He overstepped his bounds. U.S. Senators should not be openly negotiating war policy with heads of state. However, I don’t think a lot of the media will spin it that way.

Second, CNN needs to stop doing a split screen when people are talking. It’s annoying for a commentator’s head to be shrunk down while CNN shows video of other content during their comments.

Jean Cannon   July 22nd, 2008 1:24 am ET

I respect David Gergen, but he is entirely wrong about Senator Obama negotiating. As a United States senator, he doesn’t have the power to negotiate. a negotiator has the power of enforcement. Obama doesn’t popssess that yet, hopefully he will soon. You guys freak me out. You can’t allow Senator Obama to have a successful trip abroad. It wouldn’t be CNN, if you didn’t attempt to somehow undermine how effedtive Senator Obama has been. He seems to be in his element.

Brown   July 22nd, 2008 1:25 am ET

I agree with David that it was a mistake for Obama to issue a statement about his conversation with Malaki. Also that at the surface it did seem like a good idea for Obama to go overseas to learn more about our diplomatic and military situation.
However, perhaps this is the exact reason that a candidate should not meet with other leaders of the world during wartime… because it places too much power in the hands of foreign leaders and their media bias.
Even if Obama did not issue a statement, Malaki could have; and depending on the outcome of our own Presidential Campaign if McCain were voted in over Obama, that could create some very deep and powerful resentment not only the current US Administration but the entire US Population as a whole.
Suppose Obama is elected and does not withdrawl accordingly, that too could create some very deep and powerful resentment not only the current US Administration but the entire US Population as a whole.

regina   July 22nd, 2008 1:26 am ET

Apparently, Mr Gergen could not wait to attack Obama without knowing that facts himself. Obama did not negotiate, nor did his statement came across as negotiating. Mr Gergen use the word negotiate as a informatory word to jump start McCain’s campaign. If Mr Gergen wants to be a flame thrower for McCain, he should apply to work for McCain’s campaign. It appears Mr Gergen took it upon himself to get positive attention off Obama by start a political fire when there was none. Mr Gergen you lost your credibility.

Helen   July 22nd, 2008 1:27 am ET

I don’t think he made a mistake. He was stating what was already known by everyone since Friday. Maliki wants us out.

Jeanette   July 22nd, 2008 1:28 am ET

In answer to Shannon, this was not the purpose of his visit. His purpose was to show that he can be a big league player– to win votes. He has no right to be in that country trying to negotiate anything, that is up to the politicians in office now!! Hopefully he will not be the next president to be able to even legitamatly negotiate things. He doesn’t even know what he’s talking about and he is trying to act like he has some knowledge of war. Where is his experience??? I am an independent, but I don’t like his audacity–he has a lot of it.

rbloom   July 22nd, 2008 1:29 am ET

David, can you clarify on the air at some point that the so-called “domestic political reasons” that keep being cited as a reason for downplaying or dismissing Maliki’s new position are that the Iraqi people want the U.S. troops out? From what I’ve seen of polling in Iraq (a perhaps dubious proposition, granted), there is 70-80% support for the U.S. leaving asap. Maliki, with an election looming, is aligning himself with the majority of Iraqi voters.

Ron   July 22nd, 2008 1:29 am ET

Dr. Susan Rice, senior national security advisor to the Obama Campaign, issued this statement in response to al-Maliki’s declaration of support:

“Senator Obama welcomes Prime Minister Maliki’s support for a 16 month timeline for the redeployment of U.S combat brigades. This presents an important opportunity to transition to Iraqi responsibility, while restoring our military and increasing our commitment to finish the fight in Afghanistan.”

Change “welcomes” to “acknowledges” and critics have no ground to criticize Sen. Obama. As it stands, they have little ground. Once again, critics are parsing every word in the most extreme way possible in an attempt to create controversy. P.S. The facts of the statement have been known for several days. There is no news here!

Marguerite   July 22nd, 2008 1:30 am ET

This is an on spot example of doing things completely differently. Instead of secretiveness with questionable agendas, it is refreshing to see a “glass house” style. This is what it will take to stand before God and each other and honestly take back and re-establish the honor of our country and restore our relationship with the world. Go Obama!

I agree with the writer who pointed out that he is speaking as an active and articulate Senator. He is NOT usurping, he is revealing his style. Given MORE authority, he will DO more, and hopefully continue to include us all in his “glass house” policy.

Dave Attenborrow   July 22nd, 2008 1:31 am ET

Obama screwed up . He should keep his nose kleen until Bush is out of office. The people of the USA do not deserve Bush.
Dave

Kevin   July 22nd, 2008 1:34 am ET

I can’t believe analysts are talking about Obama trying to save lives as a mistake! Why does everyone think it has to be political maneuvering. Leave the negotiating to the commander in chief???? Give me a break. What a joke. Obama was able to do something in 1 trip that Bush hasn’t yet been able to acheive at all, and most likely wouldn’t! It just might be possible that Obama feels passionate about the war and saving lives NOW enough to do something about it, regardless of politics. Malakie probably thinks Bush is a joke too. Go Barack!!!

Tony DeVico   July 22nd, 2008 1:36 am ET

I agree with those saying Obama is not negotiating for anyone. Just going with the flow of the discussions and comments being made by Malakie. Let’s face it, what is happening in Iraq is, in part, the result of the last year and a half of Democrats trying to cut funds for Iraq and establish timelines. The various parties in Iraq that have a real stake in Iraq are getting the message loud and clear that the American people are FED UP WITH IRAQ! We are getting out come hell or high water and if the various groups in Iraq want anything other than mass slaughter and chaos, they’ve got a limited window in which to get their collective you-know-what together. The importance of the constant drumbeat from the Democratic Congress and the poles of the American people have made it abundantly clear to Iraq that support from the US is over.

Elly W.   July 22nd, 2008 1:37 am ET

As a senior watching this media show, I am appalled to see our former democracy being usurped by a comedy act. Both candidates are acting as the anointed one even before we have held our conventions. We used to hold conventions to process a democratic vote for the our candidates before the world.

Our tax dollars are being used for a comedy show. Senatorial junkets have frequently been a farce. Now we have the fraud of frauds.

nick   July 22nd, 2008 1:39 am ET

This is the most outrageous thing I have ever heard in my life.Barack Obama trying to take the credit for the the other parties successes and is buying into the prime minister al maliki I will never vote for a liar and someone who will not stick up for are troops and are country.Barack Obama might as well join the enemy and except lose in the war on terrorism.I am convinced Obama is the most unoriginal person who ever ran for President of the united states.

Maria   July 22nd, 2008 1:39 am ET

I am confused, please clarify. Other news network suggested that Obama conversation with Maliki did not include the time table for troops coming home. Where did your information come from? apparently Maliki had a
news conference after the meeting with Obama and he made those statements. I think CNN tries to keep others honest.

Connie Starr   July 22nd, 2008 1:40 am ET

I agree with others preceeding me ….from all we know at this point, stating that Senator Obama was “negotiating” is a presumptuous untruth on the part of Mr. Gergen and others on air tonight. I am very surprised that Mr. Gergen would so forcefully and extensively present this - and equally disappointed!

Lee from FL   July 22nd, 2008 1:42 am ET

oh please!

Lonnie Bomer   July 22nd, 2008 1:43 am ET

what obama is doing over there is no different than what MCcain has already done.All the times MCcain has been over there he has comments about the situation in Iraq.the world leaders know bush is leaving and they want to know what the next president is first thinking and what is he going to do about the situation in the whole region’ they don’t want to be occupied forever’ they just want confidence in knowing we will be there for them but at the same time let them so the world they can defend and protect their own country with their new government. They are going to have to do it anyway so why not get the ball running now instead of it just letting the ball sit in the corner waiting for another hour,day,week,month, and years”

Dave Attenborrow   July 22nd, 2008 1:47 am ET

Obama should take his time and not interfer. Pause.

tngal   July 22nd, 2008 1:55 am ET

I have never seen so many blindly led people in my entire life. When you elect Oslama, I only hope that I am out of this country by that time so that I do not have to stay here with the idiots that supported/voted for him.
You have no idea what this will bring about and I dont want to have to be here and pay for your mistakes!!!!

Gerry   July 22nd, 2008 1:56 am ET

While I ordinarily appreciate the remarks of David Gergen, tonight he was off the wall in his comments about Barack Obama. Mr. Obama did not “negotiate” anything and was the first (before Gergen) to say that the US has only one president at a time and that he was traveling only as a US Senator. Mr. Gergan distorted the facts and did a disservice to Mr. Obama.

Mario   July 22nd, 2008 1:58 am ET

At which point did Obama make statements the he was negotiating. If he made such statements CNN needs to put the on the air, then commentators could discuss the facts over his statements instead of just speculating. Several weeks ago Time Magazine reported that Maliki requested that U.S. troops leave his country. Who was negotiating with Maliki then? When Maliki spoke to the German reporter he was just being a true politician like those that trained him.

Barbara   July 22nd, 2008 2:00 am ET

I wish I had seen this tonite. I have great respect for David Gergen but I am not concerned that Obama stepped out of his role. I think that the media coverage was quite extensive and more details forthcopming than when McCain made the trip, but nothing was said that struck me negatively. He seemd to set a goal for himself as a listener. But then again you guys may have played a portion of dialogue that I had missed.

Overall I am very pleased that the world stage looks very good for Obama. He’s a natural. I knew that all along but the proof’s in the pudding and he made some wonderful puding this weekend.

Thanks from an ol white lady! :-)

Arshad   July 22nd, 2008 2:03 am ET

He did not set any terms and conditions. He did not make any firm committment. Obama even did not issue the statement by himself. They talked to folks on ground from all sides (troops, US diplomats, and Iraqi officials) and presented a summary of the observations and issues that surfaced during that discussion. In other way, they just presented a summary of their observations based on discussion with different parties involved. And it was presented on be half of the congressional delegate that also included a republican senator. So these statements are not his own statements either.

dan   July 22nd, 2008 2:06 am ET

No not a good idea at all.
I am disappointed that this would happen due to the fact that it makes the country look indecisive and not united.
If or when Senator Obama becomes president, this is when the talks should begin.

Rosanne S Cohn   July 22nd, 2008 2:09 am ET

It is absurd that everyone is reporting that the surge is working and ignoring the fact that we are paying those people enormous sums of money to leave us alone. This story has been out there before, but the media ignores it. When we stop paying, the surge stops working!!!
rosanne cohn
rscohn25@comcast.net

Iris D.   July 22nd, 2008 2:10 am ET

Lately, CNN, Anderson Cooper, and Cindy Crawly et al have been the knock Barack hour.

The JOINT statement by Senators: Hagel, Reed, and Obama is certainly not negotiating. The Senators, simply repeated what was already in the news. Maliki had already made those statements public and his spokesperson restated his postiton earlier today. Stop trying to create controversy when there clearly in none.

PS Don’t forget McCain has also repeated statemets from Maliki and others.

Tim   July 22nd, 2008 2:11 am ET

Why is CNN in the tank for Obama? Is is amazing to me how different the stories are presented from one media outlet to another. CNN makes me sick. You are no better than the three major networks — you all obviously have an agenda.

Myrna Carlson   July 22nd, 2008 2:12 am ET

I do not believe Sen. Obama nor Senators Hagel or Reed did anything inappropriate. First of all, (as stated by Anderson Cooper)the release was sent by all three Senators so I believe they must have discussed and agreed to what their statement would be. This is after-all a Congressional delegation, is it not? I have long admired and respected David Gergen’s analysis on world events and political figures -, but I believe his implication tonight was not warranted. First of all it was Sen. Obama early last week when asked a question by a reporter that said, “there was only one president at a time,” and I believe he has been very careful in his remarks and lived up to his standard of not commenting on things he has no right to. Secondly, all during this past weekend and today all we’ve heard -(as reported by the media) is that Malakie wants a timetable and a date for withdrawl by 2010. This statement by the Iraqis was released even before Senators Hagel, Obama and Reed met with the Prime Minister so for Mr. Gergen to imply that Sen. Obama is trying to negotiate terms of a withdrawal when not even president is misleading. I still like you Mr. Gergen, but on this one you really disappointed me. Myrna - Prescott, Arizona

larry Gibbs   July 22nd, 2008 2:14 am ET

If Sen. Obama negotiated US troop withdrawal, then Senators Reed and Hagel did the same. The Press release on this matter was sent out by the three senators, therefore I find it very unlikely they would make a grave mistake as to sit down and negotiate on behalf of the President of the USA. Remember the Senators are on a fact finding tour, and if they are made aware of issues concerning the countries they are visiting, then I believe it is their obligation to the American public to know how the US is implicated.

Mr. Gergen I respect your political opinion, but this time I believe your suggestion of “negotiating” is a bit presumptuous.

travis,   July 22nd, 2008 2:17 am ET

No!!!! he did not make a mistake, Obama just pointing out some of the stuff that was talked about in the meeting.

ongre   July 22nd, 2008 2:17 am ET

Stupid media: Gergen you should go home and tend your flowers. Read a bunch into any negative situation as you see it and exaggerate the heck out of it.

This war should never have happened and who ever can get us the helk out of there should. And I might add if this countries leaders had any “Guts” they would proceed with legal cases regarding the lies that got us there in the first place.

Go home Gergen, you are a dinosaur. Retire already.

Oh yeah forgot to mention our current President has not negotiated with any skill at all, anywhere at any time. Get this election over with, elect Barack and put the cons in prison for a while.

John Hatcher   July 22nd, 2008 2:20 am ET

What tradition are you protecting Mr. Gergen. I assume going into Iraq to fight the wrong war, in the wrong place, for the wrong reasons is the tradition you mean. To let the present President be seen as the TRADITION is the sham. Obama made no deals. He did act presidential, which seems to be what is called for these days.

Steve Kozak   July 22nd, 2008 2:29 am ET

David, I r