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CNN |
June 30th, 2008 9:55 pm ET good evening everyone... hope you all had a good weekend. |
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| Hannah Storm |
June 30th, 2008 10:00 pm ET looking forward to a great show.....hope everyone had a great weekend |
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| Jo Ann, North Royalton, Ohio |
June 30th, 2008 10:00 pm ET Anderson, I am really anxious to see your report on the murders of the mountain gorillas. I have been following this tragedy since it happened. |
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| EJ (USA) |
June 30th, 2008 10:01 pm ET Good evening Mr. Anderson Cooper |
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| Cindy |
June 30th, 2008 10:01 pm ET Hey Anderson and all. Guess it didn't take long for then Dems to start attacking McCain's military record. Cindy..Ga. |
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| Kimether - Atlanta, GA |
June 30th, 2008 10:02 pm ET I completely agree with Clark. McCain needs to calm down. His camp has been anxiously waiting for somebody in Obama's camp to say something like this since tObama's "losing his bearings" comment. |
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| Mechelle-- Oklahoma |
June 30th, 2008 10:02 pm ET hey fellow bloggers! it's good to be back after being at a conference last week. |
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| Minou, New York City |
June 30th, 2008 10:03 pm ET Hi all. |
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| EJ (USA) |
June 30th, 2008 10:03 pm ET Guess it didn’t take long for then Dems to start attacking McCain’s military record. I guess the same way Republicans are attacking Obama's patriotism. |
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| Cindy |
June 30th, 2008 10:04 pm ET Obama says he won't attack anyone's patriotism but he won't say anything to his cronies who attack McCain. So he really doesn't have to. He has others do it for him. Cindy...Ga. |
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| Betty Ann, Nacogdoches,TX |
June 30th, 2008 10:04 pm ET McCain is going to say anything to win. I don't think he is a very "live" wire for President. What do you think? |
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| Mike, Syracuse, NY |
June 30th, 2008 10:04 pm ET If McCain's record isn't good enough, what does that say about Obama, who has no military record? |
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CNN |
June 30th, 2008 10:06 pm ET james carville says wesley clark has nothing to apologize for. what do you all think? |
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| Megan Dresslar |
June 30th, 2008 10:06 pm ET Thanks Bill Bennet, I agree with his comment, McCain need calm down without problem. |
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| Hannah Storm |
June 30th, 2008 10:06 pm ET I don't disagree with Clark......McCain is a war hero no doubt but that is not the only thing that would make a person qualified to be president |
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| Cindy |
June 30th, 2008 10:06 pm ET Mike...I totally agree with you! If McCain served all of that time and it means nothing then Obama is really in deep trouble! Cindy..Ga. |
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| Cynthia |
June 30th, 2008 10:06 pm ET I think having a military record or the lack of one does not determine who is the best person to be President. |
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| Betty Ann, Nacogdoches,TX |
June 30th, 2008 10:06 pm ET James Carville is right! He is the only one talking sense! |
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| EJ (USA) |
June 30th, 2008 10:07 pm ET Well, Carville is right. |
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| Tracey - Boston |
June 30th, 2008 10:07 pm ET Gen Clark gave his opinion. |
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| Kimether - Atlanta, GA |
June 30th, 2008 10:07 pm ET Mike, Clark's point is that military records should not automatically qualify you for President. |
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| Mechelle-- Oklahoma |
June 30th, 2008 10:07 pm ET i think he does, especially since obama prefaces his speeches with his honor of mccain's military record. with the question of qualifications, then what qualifies obama? |
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| Bonnie/St. Louis |
June 30th, 2008 10:07 pm ET I like James Carville–but he is sooo wrong on this issue!! |
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| Mike, Syracuse, NY |
June 30th, 2008 10:07 pm ET Getting shot down doesn't qualify McCain, but 22 years in the military, including command, plus over 20 years in the Senate does. |
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| Lorie Ann, Buellton, California |
June 30th, 2008 10:07 pm ET I disagree with John Carville. Apologize. Our troops past and present should be given respect. |
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| Cynthia |
June 30th, 2008 10:07 pm ET I have to say I agree with carville. |
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| Minou, New York City |
June 30th, 2008 10:08 pm ET I agree with James Carville. |
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| Kimether - Atlanta, GA |
June 30th, 2008 10:08 pm ET Anderson, Clark has absolutely nothing to apologize for. He was not disrespectful, or rude. Sounded it like an excellent assertion to me. |
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| Sara, Oklahoma |
June 30th, 2008 10:08 pm ET I don't think Clark should apologize. It may have been a "snide and nasty comment", but this is when the mudslinging goes on. Get over it, I think. I'm sure there's going to be a ton more things to get upset about later on. |
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| Cynthia |
June 30th, 2008 10:08 pm ET How many other Presidents have there been who was not in the military – I'm sure a number of them. |
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| Stacy |
June 30th, 2008 10:08 pm ET I agree with Carville (and I don't usually). In this HIGHLY politicized culture, Clark should have been more careful with his words, but there is nothing wrong with the gist of what he said. |
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| Mike, Syracuse, NY |
June 30th, 2008 10:09 pm ET Anderson, I disagree. Clark needs to apologize. His implication was that McCain is rnning solely on his POW experience. He's not. |
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| Tracey - Boston |
June 30th, 2008 10:09 pm ET I don't think Obama should apologize for Clark's opinion. Does either candidate have any leadership experince?....that's what I would like to know |
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| Heather |
June 30th, 2008 10:09 pm ET I agree with Carville. |
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| Anna Washington |
June 30th, 2008 10:09 pm ET If the whole comment by Gen Clark was played, it is quite obvious that he was not down playing John McCain's service. He just made the point that his having been a POW doesn't qualify him to be president. And it really would be helpful to note that Bill Bennett is a financial supporter of John McCain and has been for a long time. |
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| Megan Dresslar |
June 30th, 2008 10:09 pm ET Anderson, |
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| Kathy, Chicago |
June 30th, 2008 10:10 pm ET Wow, that might be the first time I've ever agreed with Bill Bennett. |
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| Heather |
June 30th, 2008 10:11 pm ET Im curious about what the grand jury did have to say about that shooting. |
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| Kimether - Atlanta, GA |
June 30th, 2008 10:11 pm ET McCain's camp is often selling his military experience as if it is interchangeably foreign policy experience and that is not the case. |
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| Brandon |
June 30th, 2008 10:11 pm ET I agree with Carville. Obama doesn't need to apologize. If you watch the tape, the interviewer was being rude himself and Clark was only making an "observation", not an attack. |
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| Cynthia |
June 30th, 2008 10:12 pm ET Each candidate has been and will continue to be attacked. It's all a part of it. |
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CNN |
June 30th, 2008 10:12 pm ET Happy Monday, everyone |
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| Maureen T |
June 30th, 2008 10:13 pm ET Enough said, James Carville is right. |
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| MikeLo |
June 30th, 2008 10:13 pm ET I don't understand how saying that flying a fighter and getting shot down is suddenly an attack on someone's patriotism or record. Gen. Clark was right, and he didn't imply anything about Sen. McCain's patriotism. What's wrong with that? |
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| Richard Mojica |
June 30th, 2008 10:13 pm ET As being a formidable member of the Armed Services, Clark has every right to bring up a simple truth about McCain |
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| Lisa |
June 30th, 2008 10:13 pm ET It's a fine line to walk when you are talking about McCain's war record. I understand James' point. I do think Clark was only answering the question, however, perhaps he could have said it in a different way. In this day and age you have to watch every word that comes out of your mouth. |
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| mike |
June 30th, 2008 10:13 pm ET Mr Bennet stated that america wants a person of honor in the White House. Has he been there lately to see who resides there? |
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| john |
June 30th, 2008 10:14 pm ET James Carville, |
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| Grace Afridi |
June 30th, 2008 10:14 pm ET A lot of us do noble things everyday, but those noble acts would not necessarily be qualifications to be president. |
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| Cynthia |
June 30th, 2008 10:14 pm ET Does Senator McCain wear a flag pin? |
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| Lori Zibel |
June 30th, 2008 10:14 pm ET see usually i would groan at the comment, "happy monday" but it's summer so I embrace it. I think Obama really does have a true love for this country, we shouldn't question that. |
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| Hannah Storm |
June 30th, 2008 10:14 pm ET I watched Obama's speech at work today (when am I not watching cnn.com LIVE at work |
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| Mike Bernal |
June 30th, 2008 10:14 pm ET How does Clark's remarks relate to a president who joined the National Guard to keep from serving and a vice-president who took five deferments so he would not have to go to Vietnam. |
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| John |
June 30th, 2008 10:14 pm ET I think that the way Clark may have said what he said was a little off-putting, but he is correct: getting shot down does not make someone qualified to be president |
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| Megan Dresslar |
June 30th, 2008 10:14 pm ET Hi Erica! |
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| Shea, North Carolina |
June 30th, 2008 10:15 pm ET I usually don't agree with Carville but this time I actually do. You cannot run for president on military records! |
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| Heather |
June 30th, 2008 10:15 pm ET What is the big deal with the flag pin? I do not see every American wearing one but they look at Obama as not wearing one and saying that he is not patriotic. Does that mean the rest of America is not patriotic because everyone is not wearing one? |
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| Lorie Ann, Buellton, California |
June 30th, 2008 10:16 pm ET I hope very soon, we can all agree that both candidates are qualified. Let our votes decide. Either one will hopefully do what's best for America. |
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| Jackie Crown Point |
June 30th, 2008 10:16 pm ET Clark doesn't need to apologize, he stated a common opinion of McCain. Enough with political correctness. |
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| Kent Fitzsimmons,Kewanee, IL |
June 30th, 2008 10:16 pm ET I know plenty of veterans.................but I don't want them to be President. War isn't everything |
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CNN |
June 30th, 2008 10:16 pm ET i find this obama-bill clinton call so interesting... would have loved to be the bug on that phone! |
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| Joe |
June 30th, 2008 10:17 pm ET Flag pins. Why do some many people like style over substance ? |
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| Catherine |
June 30th, 2008 10:17 pm ET Bill Bennett said that some of the Swift Boat issues were proved to be true. What exactly was 'proved' to be true? |
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| Kent Fitzsimmons,Kewanee, IL |
June 30th, 2008 10:17 pm ET Bill will help him.............but I'm sure Bill wants something in return |
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| Francesca Elm |
June 30th, 2008 10:17 pm ET I think Bill Clinton will join Obama, it's only June/July there is plenty of time |
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| Hannah Storm |
June 30th, 2008 10:17 pm ET Bill needs to suck it up and get his act together.....Hillary has shown me alot since suspending her campign but Bill not so much |
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| Nisha from Edison, NJ |
June 30th, 2008 10:18 pm ET I think James Carville and Wesley Clark are both absolutely right. Clark was not disrespecting anyone, he himself is a retired general! He was just pointing out that using a military record as a qualification for being President is not sound. No one is doubting that McCain is qualified to be President–he certainly is. But serving in the military doesn't mean that he can be President, and that's all Wesley Clark was trying to say. Critics twist this into "dishonoring" the people who have served our country. How about they cut to the real issues? These are all intelligent men and women, how about they act like it? |
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| Tracey - Boston |
June 30th, 2008 10:18 pm ET I hear you Erica... I wondered what else they spoke about? |
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| EJ (USA) |
June 30th, 2008 10:18 pm ET I find this obama-bill clinton call so interesting… would have loved to be the bug on that phone! Maybe the phone was bugged so we can all get to hear it. |
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| Chuck Oregonian for Obama |
June 30th, 2008 10:18 pm ET I do not get this war mongering fear tactics that is going on today also with this terrorist thing. That is so wrong, and sad. I hope America is smarter than Lieberman and those making those statements think. |
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| Shawn |
June 30th, 2008 10:18 pm ET More so, when did McCain ever imply that he was more qualified than Obama because he was a POW in war? Where did this suggestion come? Talking points by the press or comments by either campaign |
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| Maureen T |
June 30th, 2008 10:19 pm ET Good to hear that Bill and Barack finally "spoke"! Where's the picture of the two of them?! |
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| Chuck Eugene Oregon. |
June 30th, 2008 10:19 pm ET Erica, yes your right I would have liked to have heard that converstion too. |
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| Melinda |
June 30th, 2008 10:19 pm ET Hi Anderson – snazzy suit! I think General Clark's comment is legitimate. I don't understand what the big deal is... |
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| Lorie Ann, Buellton, California |
June 30th, 2008 10:20 pm ET Bill Clinton and Obama will probably come together for the party. But you can't fault Clinton for feeling his wife should have won. That's just human nature. |
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| Minou, New York City |
June 30th, 2008 10:20 pm ET Bill Clinton and Obama are very itinerant people. Maybe the different time zones and the fact that they are so busy was part of the phone call delay? |
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| John |
June 30th, 2008 10:21 pm ET Erica, I would rather be the bug in the room after he hung up. |
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| Kimether - Atlanta, GA |
June 30th, 2008 10:21 pm ET I think this Bill Clinton thing has been way too analyzed. If I was Hillary, I wouldn't want my hubby taking up the show after I concede. Bill was right to return to his normal way of life, and allow the Unity event to occur without him. It was Hillary and Barack's moment, not Bill's. |
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| Shea, North Carolina |
June 30th, 2008 10:21 pm ET I agree Erica I would love to know exactly what was said and if Clinton apoligized to Obama for acting like a child. |
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| Michael |
June 30th, 2008 10:21 pm ET Yeah, that would have been an interesting conversation between Obama and Clinton after report of how mad Clinton isupposedly s about how things worked out. |
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| Whitney |
June 30th, 2008 10:22 pm ET Hi Erica, I think Bill Clinton should state his support, move in stealth-mode, and stay out of the way. This election shouldn't be about him, nor his wife. It should be about electing our next president. |
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| Betty Ann, Nacogdoches,TX |
June 30th, 2008 10:22 pm ET I would have loved to be a fly on the wall when Obama and Pres. Clinton were visiting. |
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| john-Canada |
June 30th, 2008 10:23 pm ET Bill Bennett should stop this notion that Clinton does no good for Obama. |
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| Gary |
June 30th, 2008 10:23 pm ET Just because Obama can give a good speech does not qualify him for the Presidency. |
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| Lynn, Vancouver |
June 30th, 2008 10:23 pm ET John McCain doesn't wear a flag pin and Bennet doesn't have one on either nor do you Anderson. It would be interesting to ask each: Why not? The whole thing is ridiculous. The people who are spreading this and want to believe it wouldn't be voting for Obama anyway. |
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| David, Indiana |
June 30th, 2008 10:23 pm ET Hi Anderson, fellow bloggers. It does seem like Wesley Clark took a shot as the opportunity afforded itself, but those kinds of shots go back and forth all the time. Important though to discuss the question of the importance of whether or not its important for a candidate to have served in the military. It's not necessary. |
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| Megan Dresslar |
June 30th, 2008 10:24 pm ET Erica, |
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| JAY |
June 30th, 2008 10:25 pm ET General Clark was wrong because of the way he said it and the arena that was used. |
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| Jon - Melbourne, FL |
June 30th, 2008 10:25 pm ET I love how feisty Carville and Bennett get when they are on together! Such chemistry |
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| Gary |
June 30th, 2008 10:26 pm ET I am a Vietnam Veteran and I resent and I am deeply offended by Clarks comments as well as Carver's comments. |
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| Kimether - Atlanta, GA |
June 30th, 2008 10:26 pm ET Leiberman saying there will be a terrorist attack next year is far more concerning than Clark's comments. Unless he has been conversing with Bin Laden, it is clearly fear-mongering. |
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| Jeanna |
June 30th, 2008 10:26 pm ET What Clark said is true. I can cook but I may not necessarily be qualified to be a chef. |
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| Erin, Kentucky |
June 30th, 2008 10:27 pm ET In response to Cynthia-Out of 43 U.S. presidents, only 15 have no served in the military. In my opinion, General Clark and the Obama party should apologize for Clarks remarks because it sounded as though he was implying that all McCain had accomplished was being shot down and nothing more. |
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| Betty Ann, Nacogdoches,TX |
June 30th, 2008 10:27 pm ET Come home MO! |
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| Minou, New York City |
June 30th, 2008 10:28 pm ET Oh, poor Mo! Can he survive without help out there? |
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| Francesca Elm |
June 30th, 2008 10:28 pm ET If he escaped from an animal sanctuary, it must not be that nice |
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| Shellie |
June 30th, 2008 10:28 pm ET In this day and age I am sure the conversation was either taped or videotaped....we should see or hear shortly after it is "leaked" |
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CNN |
June 30th, 2008 10:30 pm ET you may remember moe.. he is the chimp who bit off the face and fingers and other body parts of his former owner when his former owner brought him a birthday cake. Moe it seems, has some issues. |
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| John Silveria |
June 30th, 2008 10:31 pm ET James is right, General Clark has nothing to apologize for. McCain served in the military, that doesnt make him qualified to be Commander in Chief. What about wisdom? Obviously McCain does not have enough or he would not have voted for the war since he supposedly saw the ugly side...... |
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| Tracey - Boston |
June 30th, 2008 10:31 pm ET Anderson, Maybe the cake was not chocolate??? |
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| james jenkins |
June 30th, 2008 10:32 pm ET Long before General Clark made the comment regarding McCain's claim to be qualified for president, I ask many around me, including republicans, how does flying a plane 40 years ago give you qalifications for that office. None had an answer. Additionally, McCain has made no bigger decisions as senator than any other senator. |
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| EJ (USA) |
June 30th, 2008 10:32 pm ET That's why I stay away from animals Anderson. I don't want to get eaten or beat up or mauled. |
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| Hannah Storm |
June 30th, 2008 10:32 pm ET Oh Moe sounds like a chimp who would be on some 4AM nightmare horror movie....yuck Always cake not face and fingers |
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| Jolene |
June 30th, 2008 10:32 pm ET Moe, the monkey has issues? It makes you wonder if he's considered dangerous now that he's out and about if you will. |
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| Megan Dresslar |
June 30th, 2008 10:33 pm ET Anderson, |
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| Erin, Kentucky |
June 30th, 2008 10:33 pm ET Anderson, I remember Moe. When I started watching a new show on animal planet called Chimp Eden I was always nervous that was going to happen to someone on the show! It actually kind of did, someone got a finger bit off. |
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| Tracey - Boston |
June 30th, 2008 10:33 pm ET What is up with Lieberman??? I thought he used to be a democrat? |
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| mollie |
June 30th, 2008 10:34 pm ET i would feel better with mccain as president during a terrorist attack. i agree with lieberman. he's more "ready" than obama in my opinion. |
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| Kimether - Atlanta, GA |
June 30th, 2008 10:34 pm ET Fear tactics do not work, whether it comes straight from the horse's mouth, or from the horse's surrogates. |
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| Lori Zibel |
June 30th, 2008 10:35 pm ET awww poor moe. |
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| Stacy |
June 30th, 2008 10:36 pm ET What is Ed's evidence that McCain has an edge on the terror issue? |
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| Michael |
June 30th, 2008 10:36 pm ET If Bush and McCain have done such a good job of fighting terror, why would anyone think we would be attacked again? Could it be that we never captured bin Laden or wiped out Al Quida? |
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| Casey |
June 30th, 2008 10:36 pm ET this 911 call seems to be an interesting story! I'm excited to see everyone's opinon |
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| Saera El Paso, TX |
June 30th, 2008 10:36 pm ET not every animal in the world will beat you up... i kinda feel bad for moe |
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| Mechelle-- Oklahoma |
June 30th, 2008 10:37 pm ET why do they now have to play the fear card? we live in a day and age where the american public knows we could be attacked at any time. it is like living in california– there is always a chance of an earthquake, or living in the heartland and dealing with tornadoes. the american people want the candidates to focus on other issues such as gas prices, mortage crisis and education! |
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| Joanne |
June 30th, 2008 10:37 pm ET I will never go to Texas. Why would I go to a state that legalizes cold blooded murder? That is what it would be in any other state. |
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| Will, Rochester, NY |
June 30th, 2008 10:37 pm ET Right or wrong, it does seem Joel Horn was acting within the laws of Texas. Of all the states NOT to be caught breaking and entering in... |
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| Hannah Storm |
June 30th, 2008 10:38 pm ET Sorry but he should be charged with murder |
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| Megan Dresslar |
June 30th, 2008 10:38 pm ET I don't understand, |
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| Genevieve M, TX |
June 30th, 2008 10:38 pm ET If I was on the jury of the guy who shot the two burglars, I would vote "not guilty" and let the guy go. One can argue that the guy should not have shot the two men, but then if the guys were not committing the crime, then none of this would have happened. The sad fact is that criminals often have more rights than a victim. Letting the guy go would send a strong message to criminals that people have a right to defend themselves. This being said, I would never confront a criminal unless I absolutely had to. |
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CNN |
June 30th, 2008 10:39 pm ET I think moe's issues go much deeper than the cake... |
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| Kimether - Atlanta, GA |
June 30th, 2008 10:39 pm ET I truly can't imagine what I would do if I was Joe Horn. Wow. |
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| Theresa |
June 30th, 2008 10:39 pm ET Good for him. I wish he was my neighbor. I know a few neighborhoods who would appreciate more men like him. |
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| MaryBeth |
June 30th, 2008 10:40 pm ET Jeez....weren't the cops on the way? There's a reason why NOT to take the law into your own hands. |
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| Betty Ann, Nacogdoches,TX |
June 30th, 2008 10:40 pm ET Yikes Anderson! Moe's owners may be relieved! Moe needs a chimp psychologist! |
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| Jolene |
June 30th, 2008 10:40 pm ET I'd hate to be a juror on that case. Talk about mixed feelings! Kudos to the 9/11 operator. He was the true hero! |
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| Abayomi |
June 30th, 2008 10:40 pm ET It like six in one hand & half dozen in the other. I would just wish he had wounded them. They couldn't have been coming to him, if they were shot 'in the back'. If coming at him, it would be more justified. |
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| Bonnie/St. Louis |
June 30th, 2008 10:40 pm ET Shooting them in the back? |
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| Norma |
June 30th, 2008 10:40 pm ET Im from Tx and we have a right to protect our property but to shoot two people on the back is wrong. |
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| Minou, New York City |
June 30th, 2008 10:40 pm ET the man OBVIOUSLY wanted to kill. He belongs in a mental institution for the rest of his life! |
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| Ed Martinez |
June 30th, 2008 10:40 pm ET Devore, CA is a small out of the way town that is mostly surrounded by hills. It can get very hot there and with this weeks temps slated to be in the 100's, Moe doesn't have a good chance. |
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| EJ (USA) |
June 30th, 2008 10:40 pm ET Whoa – that is crazy. I never heard of that Texas shooting story before tonight. |
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| Tracey - Boston |
June 30th, 2008 10:41 pm ET Erica LOL, yes Mo's issues are deeper than cake but if it WERE chocolate who knows |
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| Carl |
June 30th, 2008 10:41 pm ET Joel Horn may have been acting within Texas law, buy people should be held to higher moral standards |
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| Brandon - Nashville, TN |
June 30th, 2008 10:41 pm ET There are some elements of the call that make it sound like Horn is a little eager to shoot them, however it should be his right to shoot them. |
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| MaryBeth |
June 30th, 2008 10:41 pm ET No, I don't think he was justified. They hadn't threatened him. They were just crossing his property. |
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| Caroline |
June 30th, 2008 10:41 pm ET I cannot BELIEVE that this jury did not indict this guy. Un freakin' believable. It does not make me think well of Texas, that's for sure. |
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| MaryEllen Texas |
June 30th, 2008 10:41 pm ET Don't think I have seen anywhere that Joe Horn had state law in Texas.....and I don't think I have ever heard that the robbers made any threats to Joe Horn. First words were Joe to the robbers .... "move and your dead" - and then it seems he acted upon that .... |
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| kathy - TN |
June 30th, 2008 10:42 pm ET It's a very tough call. I think it comes down to those people did not belong in his neighbors' home. |
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| EJ (USA) |
June 30th, 2008 10:42 pm ET Good for him. I wish he was my neighbor. Yeah right. You might have a friend or a family member come over late at night and Joe Horn might blow them away for crossing through his yard to get to your house. |
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| Sara, Oklahoma |
June 30th, 2008 10:42 pm ET Since, I don't really know what Joe Horn was going through, and what the criminals were doing, I feel like he was justified. He was just doing what he thought was right. |
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| Cameron Johnson |
June 30th, 2008 10:42 pm ET He walked out into the street, and executed a premeditated, 2nd degree murder on two unarmed men. He shot them in the back. I am utterly disgusted. |
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| Vincent |
June 30th, 2008 10:42 pm ET He acted within the law ..... so its fine. But he certainly sounds like he wanted to shoot someone |
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| Kimether - Atlanta, GA |
June 30th, 2008 10:42 pm ET Joe Horn was an informed citizen and knew the law so I don't see his actions as irrational. |
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| Cynthia |
June 30th, 2008 10:42 pm ET After the police told him to stay inside his house – he should have stayed in there. |
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| Mary H. St. Louis, MO |
June 30th, 2008 10:42 pm ET Ok, I just took care of my neighbors pets while they were gone this weekend and kept watch on their house. Now if I heard something, I would call the police but no way would I kill someone that I thought was breaking in or actually was breaking in. I would let the police deal with that. |
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| Roberto Lacayo |
June 30th, 2008 10:42 pm ET Roberto-Jacksonville, FLORIDA. This man did the right thing. Come to my yard and same will happen. They should have not been in his yard and should have not robbed their neighbor's yard. |
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| Jo Ann, North Royalton, Ohio |
June 30th, 2008 10:43 pm ET Maybe this man misunderstood the law because it clearly states that the threat has to be on your property, not the neighbors. |
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| deborah, OH |
June 30th, 2008 10:43 pm ET I can't put myself in Mr. Horn's place–don't know what I would do–it's amazing! |
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| Sandy, Atlanta,GA |
June 30th, 2008 10:43 pm ET He should not have taken the law into his own hands. He made a decision to go out and shoot these guys in the back. Right or wrong, they did not have to die. |
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| Kyle |
June 30th, 2008 10:43 pm ET He was right in shooting the criminals |
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| Taz Carper |
June 30th, 2008 10:43 pm ET The law clearly stated that if someone was breaking into a neighbors house, you can shoot them to protect the house. Obviously the suspects ran when he told them to stop. They decided to run when told to stop at gun point. Any reasonable person would have stopped, but then again, these were unreasonable by breaking into a house. The illegal immigration issue is irrelevant. |
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| Julius Sexton |
June 30th, 2008 10:43 pm ET He was justified in shooting the men if they were trying to rob him or break into his home. If he was just being paranoid then no, it was wrong. But in all honesty, i would do the SAME thing if someone was breaking into my home. |
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| Betty Ann, Nacogdoches,TX |
June 30th, 2008 10:43 pm ET Only in Texas |
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| russ spataro |
June 30th, 2008 10:43 pm ET Give the Texas guy a medal for shooting these two criminals. Bravo |
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| MaryBeth |
June 30th, 2008 10:43 pm ET I agree, Cameron...they were running away...not towards. |
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| Ellen |
June 30th, 2008 10:43 pm ET First time on here. I love you, Anderson. You are great at what you do. My question is, why did he have to kill them? Why in the back? Why not wound them? Seems he was determined to kill them, no regard for human life. Illegal or legal aliens, they are nonetheless human beings. Thanks for taking my blog. |
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| Genevieve M, TX |
June 30th, 2008 10:43 pm ET If I thought my life was in danger, I would shoot too. |
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| Rich |
June 30th, 2008 10:43 pm ET He did the right thing. we need to beable to protect our self. Its the LAW |
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| Kimether - Atlanta, GA |
June 30th, 2008 10:43 pm ET I question if the fact that the burglars were illegal immigrants played a role in the jury's decision. |
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| Rich Newman |
June 30th, 2008 10:43 pm ET Joe Horn is my hero. If they were not in our country this would not have happended. Go Joe Horn |
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| Kathy, Chicago |
June 30th, 2008 10:43 pm ET I don't think it is a good idea to be shooting people. I have a problem with personal guns. I'd like to think that we could find other ways to solve problems without shooting each other. |
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| Kevin, Las Vegas, NV |
June 30th, 2008 10:43 pm ET Mr. Horn did not break the law. Not the way the law is written. The focus should be on changing that law, because in just about any other state, what he did was premeditated murder. The 911 tape is proof positive of premeditation. We should not forget about the two men that were killed, but we will forget about Mr. Horn. But that law must be changed. |
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| Serena |
June 30th, 2008 10:43 pm ET I live in Canada and I believe that if more people were shot while trying to rob homes, thieves might think twice before breaking and entering! God Bless America. |
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| Travis, NYC |
June 30th, 2008 10:44 pm ET Hey, you break into someone's house (anyone's house), you could get shot. Period. Don't break into houses, and you don't have anything to worry about. |
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| Caroline |
June 30th, 2008 10:44 pm ET Oh great! So the grand jury did not indict him because they wanted to "send a message" to all illegals. Great! I'm disgusted. Note to self: never visit Texas. |
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| JoeyZ |
June 30th, 2008 10:44 pm ET I think Mr. Horn was correct in shooting the burglars. If we saw that happen a few dozen more times on the front pages...maybe thieves will think twice about breaking and entering a man's home. |
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| Carol |
June 30th, 2008 10:44 pm ET His actions go so far beyond what the law was meant to allow. He walked out of that house with the specific intent to kill. |
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| Minou, New York City |
June 30th, 2008 10:44 pm ET he wasn't protecting himself! he was simply shooting to kill for fun...and now he got away with it and serves as an inspiration to others...great! |
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| Jake |
June 30th, 2008 10:44 pm ET It is unfortunate that Mr Horn had to resort to this action. I am concerned that some people will use this as an example to become a vigilante for justice. |
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| Michelle in CA |
June 30th, 2008 10:44 pm ET People shot in the back are running away...hmmm. |
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| David, Indiana |
June 30th, 2008 10:44 pm ET Seems like Mr. Horn went in pursuit, that's something the police should do. Even the police sometimes avoid confrontation and follow until they can apprehend somebody. |
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| Hank |
June 30th, 2008 10:44 pm ET Its unfortunate to take someone's life over property. It's obvious that Joe Horn was out to shoot someone no matter what the circumstances or any viable threat. |
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| Anthony, South Florida |
June 30th, 2008 10:44 pm ET I think Horn could have shot at other legs or another part of theor bodies, instead of killing them. I feel citizens do not have a right to take another life, regardless of the crime; that's what the police is there for. |
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| EJ (USA) |
June 30th, 2008 10:44 pm ET He was just doing what he thought was right. I don't buy that. How can someone justify in their mind shooting 2 people in the back. I think that's pretty sick regardless of what the law says. Anyone who can do that has some severe issues. |
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| jackie Chino Hills, CA |
June 30th, 2008 10:44 pm ET varmits? hehe is that how you spell it? i just remember that being said in all the cartoons. |
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| nick flaker |
June 30th, 2008 10:44 pm ET why did the guy,horn,even bother calling 911...just shoot the thugs and call the meat wagon. |
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| Heather |
June 30th, 2008 10:44 pm ET Joe Horn was justified in shooting those guys. They were armed and who says they werent going to go to his home next? |
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| Paulette, NYC |
June 30th, 2008 10:45 pm ET While I don't think Mr. Horn should be charged with murder, I do think he should be charged with a lesser crime like manslaughter. His life was never in danger and he took it upon himself to take the law into his own hands by shooting these two men whom never posed any danger to him. |
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| Hannah Storm |
June 30th, 2008 10:45 pm ET the story from Texas is just so wrong. There is never any justification to just shot someone.....especially when he knew the cops were on the way |
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| Hannah |
June 30th, 2008 10:45 pm ET The right to bear arms is meant for us to have the ability to overthrow our government if it became a dictatorship. |
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| howard schramm |
June 30th, 2008 10:45 pm ET This is open and shut ..... Joe was within his rights....I am just sorry he didn;t use a cannon to blow these guys away. |
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| zolton |
June 30th, 2008 10:45 pm ET Great verdict, tired of criminals getting the benefit of the law. |
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| Melinda |
June 30th, 2008 10:45 pm ET I don't know the whole story, but... what about the victim's rights? If someone comes into your home, you should have the right to defend yourself. What if you have children sleeping there? |
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| Jason |
June 30th, 2008 10:45 pm ET Joe Horn made the right decision. How can anyone possibly protest Mr Horn's acts? |
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| MaryBeth |
June 30th, 2008 10:45 pm ET Oh no...the Zodiac again? Haven't there already been two Zodiac killers? Aren't astrological signs too passe to be using as a reason to kill someone? It's been done twice already...come up with something original. |
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| Craig |
June 30th, 2008 10:45 pm ET Horn was right. Get the bad people out of here. I can't afford to house these criminals and pay for their lawyers. |
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| Keith |
June 30th, 2008 10:45 pm ET The law is that you protect your property and belongings, with Mr. Horn verbally stated that he was going outside knowing what was going on he put hiself at risk and that did not give him justification to kill. That is a quickly premeditated murder. |
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| mollie |
June 30th, 2008 10:45 pm ET i would much rather things stolen from my home than anyone attempting to shoot anyone in the process. if i was home at the time, i'd have to think about it, but i'd probably think the same. |
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| Genevieve M, TX |
June 30th, 2008 10:46 pm ET I agree with Serena 100%. Letting this guy go sends a strong message to criminals that it is NOT ok to commit criminal acts. |
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| mark |
June 30th, 2008 10:46 pm ET He was wrong to shoot them in the back during property theft. These may have been bad people with long rap sheets but you can't kill someone for petty theft. I'm a conservative who believes in the death pentaly but not vigilante justice at someone elses house. He made a poor choice. |
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| Paul Challoner - somerset , uk |
June 30th, 2008 10:46 pm ET We had an incident similar to whats happened to Mr Horn in the UK. That guy was actually jailed but later released due to public pressure as he was only protecting his farm. |
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| Dee F. |
June 30th, 2008 10:46 pm ET I find it interesting that one person can get away with shooting 2 persons in the back and yet another gets jail time for dog fighting. |
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| Riccardo Page |
June 30th, 2008 10:46 pm ET Joe Horn sounded as if he was waiting for a reason to shoot a burglar. When did the value of a human life become equal to that of a dvd/vcr combo and flat screen? |
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| Heath |
June 30th, 2008 10:46 pm ET Here in Alabama, you can not shoot to kill unless you fear for your life if someone is on your property. |
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| Minou, New York City |
June 30th, 2008 10:46 pm ET That he got away with these murders is just uncivilized. this country needs a lot of change! |
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| Will, Rochester, NY |
June 30th, 2008 10:46 pm ET Let's be clear on this, Joel Horn did clearly know that they were not residents of the property, and I believe he whitnessed them enter via a window (that they broke through), and then come back out carrying a TV or something like that. Personally, I think killing people over property is over the top, but he clearly knew they were robbing the place. |
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| Linda |
June 30th, 2008 10:47 pm ET Mr. Horn is a murderer plain and simple. He went outside of his house after being told not to by a representative of the police and then said he was threatened, by two men he shot IN THE BACK. They were not beating down his door, they were not in his house, they were outside where he went to find them. I don't condone their behavior but that is why we have police and a court system. Mr. Horn took the law into his own hands and for some reason beyond me, the grand jury pardoned him. |
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| Kent Fitzsimmons,Kewanee, IL |
June 30th, 2008 10:47 pm ET Hey, Texas you can walk around in the street with a gun |
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| EJ (USA) |
June 30th, 2008 10:47 pm ET What Horn did is so wrong on so many levels, I can't even think of the words to describe it. It's even a bit more disturbing that there are people cheering him on for shooting 2 people in the back. |
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| Dabney |
June 30th, 2008 10:48 pm ET i definitely feel that individuals should have the right to defend themselves, especially when their safety is threatened by burglars; however, the fact that he discussed shooting (and ultimately killing) the men with the 911 operator signals premeditated thought.. but hey that's just my opinion |
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| c. p. scott |
June 30th, 2008 10:48 pm ET Way to go Supreme Court and the 2nd Amendment!! Everybody needs a gun like Joe Horn in Texas. |
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| MaryBeth |
June 30th, 2008 10:48 pm ET Serena: the amount of crime has not gone down because ppl can personally own guns...it's gone up...now kids accidentally shoot themselves or if something gets too out of hand, you can just shoot someone...that's not right...we have the rule of law for a reason. |
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| judy johnston |
June 30th, 2008 10:48 pm ET Horn case? Jury nullification. |
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| Mike, Syracuse, NY |
June 30th, 2008 10:48 pm ET Gotta love Texas justice. |
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CNN |
June 30th, 2008 10:49 pm ET Ellen, welcome to the blog |
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| MaryEllen Texas |
June 30th, 2008 10:51 pm ET Anderson - I always enjoy hearing Jeffrey Tubin's legal position on various topics. He's very down to earth and easily explains the legalities in very lay terminology for everyone to understand. |
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| kathy - TN |
June 30th, 2008 10:51 pm ET Woohoo! Stop in and get a gas card!!! What a deal! |
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| Kevin Kitts TN. |
June 30th, 2008 10:51 pm ET If we had more laws like the ones in Texas, and more people like Mr.Horn the crime rates would drop across this country. I whish he was my neighbor. |
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| Nick |
June 30th, 2008 10:51 pm ET Horn was justified in his actions, in Mrs. Obama's words for the 1st time I feel proud of my country. |
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| howard schramm |
June 30th, 2008 10:52 pm ET i agree with the jury....touche Texas |
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| Val |
June 30th, 2008 10:53 pm ET Joe Horn was probably a little trigger happy but I believe had a complete justification to attempt to stop the two Burglars from stealing his neighbors property. We here in the northeast tend to be shocked by news like this. Why is that? You are out stealing someone's hard earned valuables, invading their home not knowing who is inside. What if there was a teenage girl in there? Would these two rape the girl and leave her for dead? I think justice was served. Anyone who has the nerve to invade someone's home is capable of anything and I'm sure is ready for anything. He warned them not to move, and they did. That's why they are dead. No sleep lost here. Good Night. Two less animals to deal with . . . . |
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| Vincent |
June 30th, 2008 10:53 pm ET Does more weapons really make people safer ? Seems like more and more stories of normal people going postal and killing random people or walking into crowded places to shoot anything that moves. |
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| Ron In Texas. |
June 30th, 2008 10:53 pm ET To Kent |
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| Kimether - Atlanta, GA |
June 30th, 2008 10:53 pm ET Looks like somebody did not use enough dynamite for that building! |
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| Maureen T |
June 30th, 2008 10:53 pm ET Brothel blues? Only in America... |
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| joycei |
June 30th, 2008 10:53 pm ET I live in Houston where the killings took place, and I'm probably alone in thinking this way, but I think Joe Horn was wrong for killing those men, because he was inside his home and not being threatened.Although I also think those men were wrong for robbing someone home in the first place. |
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| tommy |
June 30th, 2008 10:53 pm ET He had the right to shoot them by law but he sure sounded all to eager to confront them before police could arrive |
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| Rekha Raman |
June 30th, 2008 10:53 pm ET Good night, Anderson. And now to watch the gorillas- their sad story. |
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| Betty Ann, Nacogdoches,TX |
June 30th, 2008 10:54 pm ET Kent~ That is scary. NO! We don't walk around the streets of TX with guns. Wow! talk about stereotypical! |
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| Jim |
June 30th, 2008 10:54 pm ET Gee, even thieves have feelings too. pfffffft. The sympathy expressed for the criminals is irrational imo. Good on the Grand Jury. You don't want to get shot ? It's simple, don't break into people's houses and steal their property. |
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| joyce |
June 30th, 2008 10:54 pm ET There is a higher law. This man will have to live with the fact that he took two lives. He will be sorry one day. I wonder how his neighbors feel about the murder. I would never want my neighbor to murder anyone to protect my property. Incredible; the most serious decision he'll probably ever make, taking a life, made with very little thought. |
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| Michele |
June 30th, 2008 10:54 pm ET Maybe criminals will think twice before breaking and entering ... especially in Texas! |
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| zolton, Scottsdale |
June 30th, 2008 10:54 pm ET MaryBeth, give me a break – where do you get your statistics. As for children, a responsible parent will safety lock the gun or you want the government to do eveything for you. |
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| Ben Hortman |
June 30th, 2008 10:55 pm ET Joe Horn did the right thing! Thieves give up their rights as soon as the steal! dont be a dishonest and cheat thats pretty easy! |
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| Minou, New York City |
June 30th, 2008 10:56 pm ET Going down with glitz and glamour! Go Vegas! |
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| Mike, Syracuse, NY |
June 30th, 2008 10:56 pm ET Blowing stuff up. Great job! |
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CNN |
June 30th, 2008 10:56 pm ET good conversation tonite.. thanks..see you tomorrow. |
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| Maureen T |
June 30th, 2008 10:57 pm ET Timburrrrrrrr.....that was cool! Anyway, goodnight Andy and Erica!...See you tomorrow! |
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| MaryEllen Texas |
June 30th, 2008 10:57 pm ET Great Blogging ! Good Night Anderson; Good Night Erica; Good Night Bloggers - (sounding like Walton's Mountain) ....where's John Boy? |
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| Jolene |
June 30th, 2008 10:57 pm ET Nothing like a good (or bad) implosion. They continue to intrigue me. Nite all! |
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| EJ (USA) |
June 30th, 2008 10:57 pm ET goodnight Anderson! great show |
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| Shea, North Carolina |
June 30th, 2008 10:58 pm ET goodnight Anderson and Erica.....nite all |
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| Genevieve M, TX |
June 30th, 2008 10:59 pm ET Moral of the story: "If you don't want to get shot, then don't break into people houses and take things." DUH! |
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