Tom Foreman | BIO
AC360° Correspondent
Just when you thought it was safe to watch political news again, take a look at those pictures of her and Obama standing hand in hand, and brace yourselves, Hillary haters.
All of you out there who are celebrating because her campaign is over, all of you who danced in your living rooms when she made her concession speech, all of you who said “Finally, the era of the Clintons is over.”
And all of you whose hearts were broken by her defeat; raise your eyes.
Because many political watchers here in DC are convinced Hillary Clinton is emerging from this election stronger than she went in, despite her loss… And they’ve got about 18 million reasons to think that way. 18 million voters chose her over Barack Obama. Think about that. Even in a country as large as ours, that is a staggering number of people, and in Washington that translates into clout. In every state where she won big, elected Democrats took notice. Now watch what happens. When those Dems are seeking re-election or grappling with big issues, odds are her name will be riding high on their Outlook contacts list.
All that cheerleading she is doing for Obama, brings some spoils of war with it. Insiders say former Clinton staff workers are taking new positions within Camp Obama every day. Her biggest supporters and donors are slowly stepping up to shake his hand. She is walking alongside him, and with every step she is gaining influence, respect, and power in the next administration if Obama wins the White House.
If she had lost badly, she would be scrabbling around for crumbs. But she played him to a near tie in the popular vote, and that is something that no one in the Democratic Party dares to ignore. If Democrats want to beat the Republicans, (and they do!) they suspect the Clinton Seal of Approval must be stamped on a fair amount of all that happens until November.
Because with that seal (and forgive me for bringing up the now sensitive subject of seals) comes access to the Clinton political machine; top level operatives who know how to rally support in the states where Obama did not connect so well, and with constituencies that he makes uneasy: Latinos, older working class voters, and some women. With Clinton approval comes experience in running a general election campaign against the Republicans; remember, Obama has never done that before and primary battles, like the one he just waged, are wholly different affairs. And with Clinton approval comes the former president, Bill Clinton. It is not yet clear, precisely, what role he will play, and considering all the kerfuffle he raised around his wife’s campaign, Obama may be understandably cautious about how he is deployed…but it is certainly better for Obama to have him on his side.
Make no mistake about it, Obama won the nomination. He came from absolutely nowhere to knock off a sure winner (that would be her,) and stun the Washington power players. He’s not about to give her a co-presidency now. Even all that talk of a Vice Presidential slot has grown muted.
But Hillary Clinton is, as it seems the Clintons always do, rapidly turning her defeat into political cabbage; chopping it ten different ways, slathering it with the sauce of consolation, rearranging it on the Capitol platter, and guess who looks like she is eating steak again?
18 million voters have a way of sweetening the deal for any politician, whether or not he or she ultimately wins the race.
The Clinton Empire over? The political oracles in DC are whispering: Don’t bet on it.
Editor’s note: See Tom anchor This Week in Politics saturday 6PM and Sunday 2PM ET. This week, a special edition: The Clintons: what’s next?
| Cindy |
June 27th, 2008 5:32 pm ET Tom, Cindy..Ga. |
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| PDR |
June 27th, 2008 5:40 pm ET I do not trust the Clintons..not one bit. If she is so supportive of Barack then she should hand over her delegates too.. he pays off debt..he gets delegates. I think the convention will be very interesting. I hope Barack doesn’t end up being screwed over by the Clintons. |
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| Liar Liar Pants on Fire |
June 27th, 2008 5:42 pm ET Tom, Everyone talks about 18 million voters. That was “at that time”. This doesn’t mean that tomorrow there will be 18 million voters. There was once enough votes for Bush, now he goes down in history as the most hated President. The tale of the 18 million is only as good as the day the votes were made. |
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| Vicki, Long Island, NY |
June 27th, 2008 5:43 pm ET Tom: I think it’s great that Hillary and Obama are working together side by side. Oh yes, they know what they are doing… You got two very intelligent people. They both are working on an agenda.. And that agenda is put a Democrat in the White House. I also admire how they are showing the American people and the younger generation that even though you can debate real hard and were opponents, you can still work together for a common goal. I respect both of them and they are definitely both great role models to me. But you got to love those Clintons, they know how to always make lemons into lemonade. Who knows what the future will bring –lemonade stands. |
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| JC- Los Angeles |
June 27th, 2008 5:46 pm ET As a registered, undecided independent, I found Hillary’s unwavering desire to be the Democratic nominee refreshing. She was relentless and voracious in her campaign which earned her a lot of new admirers if not the nomination. It was like watching a prize fight that lasted fifteen rounds. Although many thought it might not go the distance, the outcome was close with the winner looking anything but unanimous or unscathed. In reality, the winner often took a defensive posture when confronted with the likes of Rev. Wright and Rev. Pfleger; looked meek when trying to explain his associations; and often listless when trying too hard to get the American people to buy into his incomprehensible rhetoric. Although 18 million people helped make this a split decison, Hillary is doing her legacy a great disservice by asking Obama to be a sugar daddy and pay off her debts. Once Obama’s check clears, I’m confident that Bill will reappear and the gloves will come off once again. |
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| justobserve |
June 27th, 2008 5:47 pm ET “18 million voters”? WHERE ARE THEY NOW? I doubt that she has more than one million now. Look at her debt: if 18 million voters are still there for her, they only need to donate two bucks each and she would have been free of debts. But they are not there for her now! Her influence is overrated and it seem people just repeated the spin. The Clintons can raise from the ash but voters are now sick of dirty antics , spins and lies. Her failure is a sign of the change of times. It was UNTHINKABLE JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO. |
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| Betty Ann, Nacogdoches,TX |
June 27th, 2008 5:53 pm ET Hi Tom, |
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| Jon |
June 27th, 2008 5:55 pm ET Look at them…they look great together. I sincerely hope Obama selects Clinton as his running mate. What a way to unify the party. Obama/Clinton ‘08!!!!! |
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| Larisa |
June 27th, 2008 5:55 pm ET Hillary certainly deserves the recognition as a big power in this election and Democratic party. As a VP she would definitely make democratic ticket much stronger. But the big question is how Barak Obama would deal with the next 4 years (if he wins the presidency) with Bill Clinton in the picture. So I don’t think it will happen. Nevertheless, all Hilary’s “haters” and “strong supporters” threatening to vote for McCain should think very hard. And also, if Obama and Clinton can work out the good basics for working together in any capacity, it will only benefit the country. Women in general are more practical then men, so put together Obama’s inspiration and Clinton’s practicality and there is the hope that we really can get out of the pitiful state our economy and stand in the world is now thanks to 8 years of Bush “leadership” |
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| Mary R. (Texas) |
June 27th, 2008 6:03 pm ET If the Clintons were not in politics it would be a very boring world!!! Look for Hillary to run in 2012 because Obama will not win in November. Bill & Hillary are brilliant people - let them work their magic on the good ole US of A!!!!! We need them - they really care about this country…… Hillary 08!!! |
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| MD |
June 27th, 2008 6:08 pm ET Drawing inferences such as those in this article are statistically incorrect. It is a giant leap to predict that if Hillary ever runs for Presidentagain, she will have the same success. This time, her “success” was more due who she was running against than to her personally. Look at her “supporters.” Older people, less educated, rural whites made up the majority of her votes. This is more testament to the fact that race still matters a great deal in this country than Hillary Clinton was “loved” by all who voted for her. Many millions must have thought of Hillary as “least f two evils.” There is no guarantee that should she run against a whilte male, she would fare as well. The Clinton Empire is clearly over, more because of Bill than Hillary. The Brass of the Democratic Party must know of the skeltons in the Clintons’ closet to have so openly thrown their weight behind Barack Obama from the start. The Clintons are now reduced to supporting cast. Disclosure: I am a white male, formerly Republican, who have been for Obama after Clinton’s 3 a.m. ad, and after it became clear that McCane will be the Republican nominee. |
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| Babs |
June 27th, 2008 6:12 pm ET Oh my oh my… Obama - Hillary Rocks… oh give me a flipping break… she ran her campaign into 22million in debt… he wants to help her get that down a bit and he gives a check… Yep… politics as usual - he needs her to win.. but what will the fianl price be… Healthcare - supreme court justice, unfortunatley our choices are limited to what we have, and don’t bet for a moment either care for the working poor… Obama, who I was leaning toward is now talking out of both sides of his mouth… what will he say.. oh they are taking it out of context…. how about if CNN starts to print all the answerd he has given on healthcare, the Iraq war, the US dollar… lets see how many times his words have change… do the same for McCain and of course Hillary.. don’t let her out of the issue, she was dodging bullets getting off a plane in a war zone… whoops footage shows a sunny day and she didn’t hit the tarmat once… oh she said, I may not have remembered that correclty.. or something to that effect. Ya think… Yep she rocks all the way to the bank….she by no means needs a tag day… maybe she should reduce her expenses and move to smaller home…. or move in with her daughter… times are tough you see. |
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| CaseyJPS - California |
June 27th, 2008 6:14 pm ET A picture is worth a thousand words. I don’t want to get overly warm and fuzzy but, on the surface, that picture of the two of them is very cool. This is how I would like the world to see us (before we move in for the kill). |
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| Curtis |
June 27th, 2008 6:22 pm ET When Hillary is picked as the next V.P., The media will be so into covering the “dream team”, the average american will forget that Mc Cain is even part of this process. The average V.P. has been used to carry certain states or parts of america like the south. How many states can 18 million loyal voters carry ? |
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| frieda |
June 27th, 2008 7:02 pm ET The ” CHANGE” we all can “believe in”, happens to be no change at all. it’s shows that Obama is not a strong enough candidate who can pull this thing off without the “old washington insiders” ..the ones he is trying so hard to put them down. Just amazing… |
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| Scott |
June 27th, 2008 7:11 pm ET Anyone who thinks Hillary’s time is over and she’s going to go away are in for a big surprise. I wouldn’t bet against a VP slot for her. |
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| Don |
June 27th, 2008 7:13 pm ET Hillary fought a great battle and lost. That has to be very tough and disheartenting realizing that she thought she was a sure winner when she started. Little did her campaign know that America wanted change and they found it in Barack. For her own sake and for the sake of Obama and the Democratic party, she really had no choice but to throw her support behind Obama. Is her heart in it? I think not but she is going through the motions. Will she be Obama’s VP? I think not and he would be wise to look elsewhere. I agree that America has not heard the last from Hillary. She will continue to move up the ladder, may even accept a position in Obama’s cabinet and then run for president after he leaves office in 8 years. And Bill? He needs to take a long vacation in a far away land. This year he has severely tarnish the good he did while serving as President. Never have I seen an ex-president act like he did during the campaign. I was a disgrace. Now if Hillary can put him in a closet somewhere she can move on and up when the time is right! |
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| Jeffery James |
June 27th, 2008 7:19 pm ET They have my vote from Wisconsin. It is indeed time for change and I like both of them. I really think that historians will look back on our current President Bush and remember him as our absolute worst president ever. I am so glad it is time for change. |
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| AHerbert; San Diego, CA |
June 27th, 2008 7:19 pm ET It is great to see Obama and Hillary together! They will unite the party and he will be our next President. What ever role Hillary plays in the White House … the choice is Obama. I do expect it will be a wonderful position. I think secretary of Health would be perfect; as long as she is a cabinet member I am good and I am sure her supporters will be happy! |
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| len |
June 27th, 2008 7:24 pm ET Smart assessment. Today Hillary Clinton is the most powerful woman in America. That she can turn her PUMAs over to Obama however is not assured, only that they will continue to back her. Gergen was right. If it goes to August with Obama at single digits, he will be praying she will take the VP slot. If not, she is still the power he needs in the Senate. This gets ever more interesting. |
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| Janet from Fl |
June 27th, 2008 7:25 pm ET justobserve, you must be for Obama. Only they would slam Hillary like that. I am here to say I am one of those 18 million and a part of the women who will never vote for Obama and by the way I have donated. |
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| Wayne |
June 27th, 2008 7:29 pm ET Her power and influence are overstated. The Democratic Primary was set up for her to win and yet she lost. She lost 11 consecutive contests by an average margin of 33%. The voters clearly want Obama. Also, a vast majority of those who voted for Clinton are not “Clinton voters” as you put it. They are DEMOCRATS. She does not own them. In fact, a majority of those who voted for Clinton have pledged their support for Obama now. Those voters who are not Democrats but are true Clinton loyalists are much smaller in number. Her tactics during the campaign were deplorable. She got a lot of votes but she LOST the popular vote. All of her calculations of winning the popular vote have Obama getting ZERO votes out of one more or more states either by not counting caucus states or giving him ZERO votes in Michigan. Since neither are true the candidate, that just a year or so ago no one had heard of recieved 18M+ votes over a candidate who had been in the public eye for over a decade. That feat is truly amazing. The Clinton/Bush era of American politics is finally over after 28 years. The Obama era has begun. |
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| pd |
June 27th, 2008 7:31 pm ET 18 million votes ? Does that include Puerto Rico which has no electoral value? i think so. |
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| Fred PUMA in San Diego |
June 27th, 2008 7:31 pm ET The Clinton Empire is hardly over. Hillary will Rise and be a huge thorn in your hateful backsides - she is a true class act unlike YOU know WHO. Watch out for Chelsea Clinton !!! Why are Obama followers so hateful ? Is that a preview of the Obama brand ? |
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| Susan |
June 27th, 2008 7:40 pm ET They make a super team. If Obama picks Hillary for VP, the two can pull their supporters together & win!! Go Obama/Hillary 08!! |
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| Christine |
June 27th, 2008 7:40 pm ET A class act like like the Hillary Clinton brand will never go into oblivion. I am one of 18 million and I have donated my entire paycheck to her on behalf of myself and my husband. We are just regular folk. We recognise decency when we see it and we see it in Hillary. Wake up America….. Fresh is only good when it is regarding Milk and produce. |
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| Betty mcNeil |
June 27th, 2008 8:00 pm ET i8 million voters are still mad as hell that the Democratic “good ole boys” and the media handed the nomination to a virtual unknown with so little experience .Obama’s only political triumph was to beat Alan Keyes…Obama belongs in Hollywood not in the Whitehouse. |
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| dimitri |
June 27th, 2008 8:03 pm ET I write everywhere in all the blogs. You are right Tom. She has power and she knows it. i’m out one of 18 millions that are supporting her and i’m not a woman. Mr obama knows it and tactically he is showing that he is an astute politician. Politics is a power showdown and if Hillary wants the VP she will get it because she has a constituency behind her and no other vp candidate has it. Bill Clinton knows it and he will do necessary to prove to obama that he is a team player . Do not ever underestimate the former president ability to understand that his wife aspirations to be vice president shoud outweigh any personal feelings or grudges that he carries against Obama.I Know that Obama’s followers do not like to hear statements like that as well as my co clinton followers need to chill out about going to Mc cain and look at the big Picture. Mr Obama won because he was a better strategist but his political power strenght in our political system as of now is not better than Hillary’s. The press loves to press on the fact Mrs Clinton will not be a good soldier behind Obama ’s presidency but ,as any astute politician, she knows that her road to damascus goes through obama as his goes trough Chappaqua. |
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| LEH |
June 27th, 2008 8:04 pm ET We are not bitter–those who refuse to support Obama. We just simply do NOTbelieve that Obama will make a good president. He may become President—but at least we can say we were NOT duped. This is not about the Democratic Party. This is not about defying unity. This is about principles. This is remaining honest to ourselves. McCain is acceptable in terms of his stance on immigration, the Iraq war (if you listen to the full text of his much distorted “100-year stay” statement) and grounded view of life and possibly style of governing. As opposed to the soaring rhetoric and overhyped promise of an empty Obama presidency … |
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| Denise |
June 27th, 2008 8:08 pm ET People, people, people, get over it. There was no more sexism than there was racism. I am glad that both Obama and Hillary are working hard to find common ground and move the agenda forward. If those people who are haters on both sides, remind themselves what this is really about for all of us Americans, you will put your petty feelings aside, and work hard to elect Obama. You know what you are getting with McCain: someone who states foreign policy experience (but do your research folks, go on the internet - he really doesn’t have the experience he talks about), and absolutely no experience with anything else except voting 95% of the time with George Bush. So, pick your battles, suck it up, and then move forward. |
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| marge |
June 27th, 2008 8:10 pm ET what amess this country is in now ! Put those 2 in and it will be a lot worse ! We will be told what we can have and what we cannot have ! As soon as the election is over perosi will say we can drill any where. we sure do not need 2 liberal people like hillary and obamba , All i can say is GOD HELP US !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| lampe |
June 27th, 2008 8:16 pm ET I am one of Sen. Clintons 18 million supporters, we are still out here and we are getting stronger everyday. You may think we have all just went running to Obama , but we haven’t, we are smarter than you are we are not about to put all of our business on the internet like all of you do. Sen. and Pres. Clinton deserve alot more respect than they are getting from the Obama supporters,so please do us a really big favor keep it up, It just is going to make our voting for Sen. McCain that much more easier come Nov. Revenge will taste oh so sweet. |
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| Mikey |
June 27th, 2008 8:36 pm ET Obama/Clinton ‘08 You know it! |
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| Cindy |
June 27th, 2008 8:45 pm ET I am one of Hillary’s 18 million supporters and I will not be voting for Obama. Not out of bitterness or emotion or any of the other things the MSM and Obama supporters want to write my opinion off as, but because I don’t think he is qualified. |
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| Annie Kate |
June 27th, 2008 8:47 pm ET The Clintons aren’t called the “comeback kids” for nothing. Hillary is a class act and a tireless worker and sincerely cares about America and Americans. Why else put yourself through a grueling campaign if you didn’t believe in your vision for the country? Hopefully, Hillary’s time will come and she will be President one day - but if it doesn’t Chelsea looks like a winner too. Annie Kate |
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| Ann |
June 27th, 2008 8:49 pm ET The Clinton empire is far from over (thank God). Us 18 million are still depending on her. The convention is not here yet and he cannot win the general election anyway. If something happens between now and then, we still may see Hillary in there. All he has to do is keep talking or things about him keep coming out. Besides, not only will he not get us 18 million, he may lose some of his own votes by then. He’s not a real upstanding citizen and he has really radical associates. Most of us DO NOT trust him….especially with our country. |
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| AnnieB |
June 27th, 2008 8:57 pm ET Why would anyone want to CHANGE the greatest country in the world? What is wrong with you people? And for all the Clinton haters out there…he got that idea from a speech Bill gave back years ago about change. Just about everything he says comes from one of the Clintons at some time or another. Why can’t this man come up with anything on his own? And someone said Michelle Obama is a reminder of Jackie Kennedy! HARDLY! That is one of the most stupid remarks I’ve ever heard. Maybe Shirley Q Liquor or Watusi Jenkins, but never Jackie Kennedy! |
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| Linda/Michigan |
June 27th, 2008 8:59 pm ET Yes, you are right. Obama won the nomination. But how? Not by the people but by the super delegates.I voted for Hillary Clinton and like a fool I thought my vote would count. |
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| Christopher in TN |
June 27th, 2008 8:59 pm ET I really can’t understand all the bitterness of Clinton supporters. Any sane person who would support Clinton and then vote for McBush out of spite needs to go to time out! |
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| Beverlee in Las Vegas |
June 27th, 2008 9:12 pm ET It is obvious that those who are able to switch from Hillary to John McCain are not Democrats; they see this election about themselves, picking up their toys and running to the corner to suck their thumbs and pout because they didn’t get their way—now they say, “I’ll show you all, I will vote for John McCain, so there!” How do you believe in what HIllary believes in, then vote for McCain? Truly a mystery. I supported Hillary, was a delegate to my state’s convention for her because I believe in her and what she stands for. There is no way I can take that belief and hand it over to John McCain. |
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| Barbara |
June 27th, 2008 9:13 pm ET The party should show unity. The race is over, Obama is the one |
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| Chris in FL |
June 27th, 2008 9:17 pm ET I am one of the 18 Million strong in our PUMA coalition. We will not support Obama and the party that “selected” him. It’s not just women who will not fall in line behind this sham of a primary. The rules committee counted us as 50% - watch them get 0% in November. Hillary is not out yet. Obama will have another major blunder in this campaign and folks will be so glad Hillary didn’t release her delagates. HELLO DENVER!!! |
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| Gina |
June 27th, 2008 9:23 pm ET CNN is definately infatuated with the Clintons. It is llike a unhealthy relationship that one does not have the self esteem to let go of. The media cannot stop talking about Senator Clinton even though Senator Obama is the nominee. So be it….after all she is the most powerful woman in Washington. So she was hard on him during the campain……Whaaaa! Get over it Hillary Haters. It made Senator Obama man up. The Clintons are here to stay…..and Senator Obama needs her. I didn’t really care for her in the beggining, but she has definately earned my respect during her campain. I am one of those 18 million voters. I am not sure who I am voting for yet in November. Undecided. Senator Obama’s foreign policy views scare me. I can’t see him as Commander in Chief. |
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| Esbee |
June 27th, 2008 9:35 pm ET Hillary will be back You can’t keep the good ones down. |
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| Terry |
June 27th, 2008 9:42 pm ET Why is everyone so bitter? I am a BO supporter, and just belive he is more qualified than HRC. I frankly don’t believe Bill Clionton did as much as people give him credit for. He inherited a “good economy”. What about NAFTA? And what about Hillary? She was only a first lady, and won the senate due to Bill Clinton cronies! Do you honestly believe she can handle the world stage! The world is sick and tired of the same old people in politics in America! Maybe, just maybe we can atleast get our gas prices lowered with BO! |
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| Tim |
June 27th, 2008 9:44 pm ET Tom, I have always believe that the Clintons should not be ignored. Her fights are also good fights, since her constituency of women, working class people, the elderly, and the people in the health care industry(the nurses, doctors and other staffers)- and the children and future generations- represents the good battles that all democrats believe in and will fight for. So she cannot be ignored. She’s part of the partnership that Obama and the Democrats should have, let it be in the Senate, or as part of the administration, if Sen. Obama wins in November, of course. Let it be heard that Democrats must respect the Clintons and recognize their efforts. And their dreams are shared by all Democrats, and so it will be led by Sen. Obama, if he’s elected, with Sen. Clinton and President Clinton beside him. |
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| bond |
June 27th, 2008 9:45 pm ET Get the Obama food tasters ready! |
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| Marla OK |
June 27th, 2008 10:07 pm ET Senator Obama is too far left and I consider him a socialist. I consider Senator Clinton to be a more moderate Democrat. I can not support the socialist. What he says and what he will do are two different things. He wants Clinton supporters so he is pandering again. |
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| Robby |
June 27th, 2008 10:11 pm ET I believe HIllary’ is supporting Obama and she’s doing an admirable job of it. She recognizes that the democratic race is over and that she must still move forward. She’s not the type of person to sit back and whine about what could have been. Do you think the typical woman on the street could have made it as far as she has? She makes the most of what life throws at her and doesn’t give up, how can you not respect her for that? The Clintons are here to stay, What scares you so much that you want to see them gone? It sounds like you are secretly afraid that Obama can’t stand on his own two feet. But to me, Obama has proven that he’s his own man. He won against all odds. So what does he have to lose by accepting their help? If you support Obama, then stop working against him. Like it or not, he needs her help. This is more than about the election, it’s about the strength and unity he needs once he is elected. He can’t follow thru on his promises if he doesn’t have strong support behind him once in office. |
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| Mary Margaret |
June 27th, 2008 10:18 pm ET I am fed up with the Clintons but I am more fed up with all this brouhaha promoted by the media - all of the media. This country is in trouble on all fronts. Make a choice people - the choice is between McCain and another four years of guaranteed Republican corruption and lies or the chance for something better. I have no sympathy with people who say “I am afraid.” |
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| Bryan |
June 27th, 2008 10:20 pm ET As a registered Democrat and Hillary supporter I will only vote Democrat if Hillary is on the ticket. My Republican vote would not be against Obama but against the outrageous actions of the Democratic Party and it’s leaders. |
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| Joe B. from Greensboro, NC |
June 27th, 2008 10:21 pm ET I am a republican who supported every republican president and I did vote for Bush, that was a mistake I am living with right now. I am going to vote for a democrat for the first time in my life and that is Barack Obama, I will donate and work on his campaign on this upcoming election. You democrats need to get your house in order because I cannot understand how you think McCain is a better candidate then Obama since Hillary did not get the nomination. At least you got one of the two best candidates from your primary running in the general election and us republicans got the worst of our candidates. My pick was Ron Paul because he would run this country on his terms not George Bush’s terms like McCain will. So I as you Democrats think with your heads and hearts, not your hatred. This country will fall on its face if McCain is elected and as a former combat disable Marine Corp veteran I cannot let that happen to the country I love and served and would serve again and die for if needed. |
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| dennis from texas |
June 27th, 2008 10:26 pm ET 1/2 votes all the way fix it before it breaks ask florida ask michigan and the nominee is the least qualified….but a promising talker … hillary 2012 |
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| Jeffrey |
June 27th, 2008 10:40 pm ET Everyone needs to remember that the two have virtually the same position on every major issue. Most of the debates got so boring because one who followed basically repeated what the other said. People care deeply about the election and about their candidates but when all is said and done, personalities aside, they’re the same. As for those who would vote for McCain, I have to echo the sentiments of previous posters. It would be more of the same. It would be voting against your best interest and the interest of Democrats and what they stand for. A Democratic president and Congress would finally end the gridlock and help us achieve the goals that benefit the middle class and underprivileged. |
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| Donna Hughes |
June 27th, 2008 10:45 pm ET I know hillary has to make nice with obama if she stays in the Democratic Party. Bill Clinton doesn’t owe him any thing. I read all the blogs from Obama Supporters. I wish the Clintons would go independent as I think they were stabbed in the back by the party. And another thing I will vote for McCain. Not because I loved Hillary. I voted for her as I thought she had the most experience. Other than talk I know nothing about Obama. I see a side of him that scares me. So go ahead and get nasty with me. You helped me make up my mind to leave the Democratic Party with all your nastiness. |
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| Jake |
June 27th, 2008 10:48 pm ET Annie Kate says the Clinton’s aren’t called the “comeback kids” for nothing. She is right if her sentence ends with kids. They aren’t called that at all. He was the comeback kid. A long time ago. When we didn’t know what the definition of “is” was. She didn’t come back. She lost. She lays claim to 18 million votes. Which apparently she paid a buck apiece for, even after financing her campaign, since she is more than 18 million in debt. I think she will continue to be a very visible junior senator from New York because she was, after all, a president’s wife; and, she is certainly controversial enough so that 24 hour cable news stations, with 2 hours of actual news to cover, can use her to fill part of that extra 22 hours of time with. But, “comeback kids”, I think not. They ain’t coming back. As John Kennedy said, “The torch has been passed to a new generation of Americans”. And that is as it should be. My generation, the generation of the Clintons and Bush 43, has done quite enough damage, thank you. It is time for real change. And there is no real change in patronizing the sad old guard. My hope is that senator Obama is the real deal he presents himself to be. We need real change. Drastic change. The real question is, is it so broken that it cannot be fixed. The future of America awaits the answer. |
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| r.meeks |
June 27th, 2008 10:55 pm ET All I have been hearing and often seeing is the people who want to talkabout Obamas’ rev and pastor. Yes it may have been a little off for a religious leader but come on people, You act as if Obama was standing right there in the pullpit with him holding his hand. As far as Senator Hillary, shes’ a very appealing person to have on the squad, and Presidential Obama helping her out, cmon ……. ” EvenTrade” |
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| Teresa |
June 27th, 2008 11:05 pm ET The good “ole” boys of the democratic party really showed themselves for what they are. From the discussion of her attire in debates to the re-assignment of her elected delegates to another candidate, she was underminded both subtlely and outright. As a well educated female who has dealt with the same tactics through most of my professional life, it is clear that we have not “come a long way baby”. It is more of the same sexist crap! I am a loyal democrat or was. Not anymore and I will make sure that my daughters understand what happened in this election. We (women) are not blind to the tactics that were used to undermine Senator Clinton. To the good “ole” boys network, I cannot support Obama’s candidacy. Put that in your pipe and smoke it! Unless she is the VP candidate, I will vote McCain. |
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| janie allen |
June 27th, 2008 11:18 pm ET bill where are you.. to upset to stand up with our presidential nominee? i believe he needs a can of get over it and MAN UP. seems to me it’s a hillary show she knows she wants to hold on to her political career he doesn’t care. its a sad state of affairs when a man sends his woman out to collect money from another man to pay off his and her debt while he sits at home waiting for her to come home with the money……back in the day for those of you that knows nothing about that type of conduct it was what the pimp did to his working ladies ….sent them out to get the money while he sat home an waited for her to come home…………..sad….pitiful. you lost bill man up the longer you duck an hide the more we see you for what you really are…. |
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| Mary |
June 27th, 2008 11:19 pm ET Obama is setting his self up for being put in a position that he will have to seriously consider Hillary for VP. I don’t believe for a minute that Sen. Clinton is for real it is not possible and rightfully so President Clinton is expressing true feeling anyone of us would have the democracts expect too much. Hillary is not looking for money she wants and should have the Vice President and nothing less. |
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| janie allen |
June 27th, 2008 11:30 pm ET all that want to vote for mccain please do who cares an when in 8 years when hillary decides to run again ( obama will be a 2 term president) i hope you are around because if you choose to cut your nose off to spite your face go ahead its your face…your family and your uneducated decision that put you and your family futher in the hole. |
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| Frank Stanley |
June 27th, 2008 11:32 pm ET No matter what they say about Hillary, one day she will be President. I predict that Barack is going to falter come October and it will cost him the presidency. Four more years of Republican crap in Washington, the Democrats will run the next round of primaries in 2012 with only one candidate allowed, Hillary Clinton and she will win in a landslide. Mark my words! |
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| Dena |
June 27th, 2008 11:34 pm ET Remember the Bush - Hussein karma? Started out friendly, Hussein was hanged? Wait til the Obama - Clinton karma unfolds. Had Bush listened, instead of plunging into his karma, dragging all of us with him, we would not be in Iraq. History is about to repeat itself. If you think Iraq is ugly, wait a year. |
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| Bobby J. |
June 27th, 2008 11:39 pm ET Any Clinton supporters who would go with McCain over Obama must have their heads planted firmly in their nether regions! Yes, McCain will bring us change, just as Bush would do if he could be handed another four years: gas will get higher, the middle class will become the lower class, food will become more unaffordable, more young people will die or be mutilated in Iraq, the economy will become even weaker. If those are the changes you want, vote Republican! You can even lose yourself in the supposed social conservatism and terrorist witch hunts and forget all about the games to make the rich cronies richer at your expense. I was a big-time Hillary supporter, and I really hated to see her defeated, but when it comes to an alternative, McCain just ain’t it! It’s just the same as saying that if we can’t have Hillary, we might as well hang onto Bush and Cheney. Ewwwwww! |
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| Laura |
June 27th, 2008 11:46 pm ET Obama/Clinton ‘08, I don’t see why he wouldn’t choose her for his VP. They make a great team. |
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| Russ |
June 27th, 2008 11:48 pm ET No more Clintons. No more Bushes. Let’s PLEASE move on. This woman is as much a “good old boy” as George Bush is, if not more. Don’t let the heels fool you. Enough already. |
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| John R. |
June 27th, 2008 11:49 pm ET The naysayers notwithstanding, I just can’t see how the nation can do without the Clintons, and yes, they are the best at making lemonade out of lemons. You can say what you want about them, but it was under the Clinton Administration that the country enjoyed one of the most prosperous economic periods in American history, with soaring federal surpluses, to boot! My litmus test is what former Fed Chair Alan Greenspan, a Republican, had to say about Bill Clinton and I paraphrase: “one of the smartest men I’ve ever met. He truly wanted to understand the intricacies of the economy.” Now let’s compare this with the current one in the White House or the current Republican presidential aspirant. Do we have a choice? Let’s get real, folks. Now, it seems to me that the gracious and politic thing to do is to offer HIllary the vice presidential nomination. If she declines, then it can’t be said that she was snuffed, given her remarkable performance in the primaries. |
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| JonRoss |
June 27th, 2008 11:50 pm ET The Clinton’s are more like the late dictators of Romania. Ceaucescu and his wife finally had to be chased out of office and tracked down like dogs and destroyed. That will eventually happen to the Clinton’s. They are as brutal and arrogant as the Romanians. Sadly the Obamas are cut out of the same evil mold. If Americans are foolish enough to install these Marxist thugs they will pay a horrible price in blood. |
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| Dave |
June 27th, 2008 11:54 pm ET Trust vs: Clinton, that is like oil and water, they do not mix. If I were Obama I would be watching teh knife in Hillary’s hand as it gets slid between his ribs and watch Bill as he is an expert at the old southern shell game. They make used car salemen look like saints. |
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| Nick |
June 27th, 2008 11:56 pm ET The Clintons’ egos are far to huge to let their “empire” fall, that’s for certain. They will do anything and everything to make sure to stay in the limelight. |
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| Jamie |
June 27th, 2008 11:57 pm ET She will ruin his chances at becoming the president of change. We see Hilliary as old world. greedy politics–not change. He needs to dump her or we will vote for John McCain–at least he is experienced and has integrity. No more Clinton dynasty. |
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| Mary |
June 28th, 2008 12:00 am ET gag me. Another Clinton attempt at being famous. She is so old news…if he is smart he will pick and run with a candiate for change–not Bill’s excess baggage. |
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| LDM |
June 28th, 2008 12:03 am ET I am a Clinton supporter and have been for decades.Her comment that it takes a Clinton to clean up after a Bush was and is as true today as it was in 1992. |
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| Laura |
June 28th, 2008 12:07 am ET As a young American, I see Hillary as a huge role model. When she came to my town I had the priviledge of meeting her and was very impressed she listened to everything I had to say with sympathy and interest. Her and Obama have really opened my eyes by preforming the services they do everyday. I’d like to see both of these phenomenal people on the same ticket and as of today that process looks as though it has just begun. |
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| Nick, Massachusetts |
June 28th, 2008 12:08 am ET In response to PDR. I am not sure why you do not trust the Clintons. Maybe its because you are a republican(which speaks for itself), or you do not remember the 90’s. I do Remember the 90’s, so I happen to be a fan of the Clintons. Another thing to think about is, what if the primary started all over again tomorrow? Hillary Clinton would more than likely win by landslide. Barack Obama needs Hillary, and so do the people of The United States. |
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| andrea |
June 28th, 2008 12:08 am ET I’m another one of Hillary’s 18 million supporters who will NEVER vote for BHO. |
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| S Callahan |
June 28th, 2008 12:09 am ET Some are saying that Obama can’t win without Hillary. I disagree, I think he proved to be his own man during the Primary and can carry his weight. With or without Hillary I have intent to cast my vote for Obama because I agree with alot of his views (yes he has them, see his web site). I think our citizens deserve to have their voices heard and hopefully Obama will stick with his convictions and keep the door open to that. |
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| James A. Melching |
June 28th, 2008 12:10 am ET In the frequetly used word and phrase by Senator Obama,”If you have a notion”, it is reverently hoped that he is cooperatiing with Hillary with the full realization that she could be nominated for an Academy Award for Acting , and win hands down. The” ides of March” are swiftly closing in, so we hope Senator Obama is covering his Flanks. Hopefully,he has read excerpts from Julius Ceasar wherein we remind him how fleeting an Actor can change roles to perfection Needless to say, the Clinton are slippery than snot. Beware Obamaa!!! Remember the Maine—-remember Lewinsky and all that horendous baggage and stained remnants and revival thereof. |
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| Cindy |
June 28th, 2008 12:18 am ET Terry June 27th, 2008 9:42 pm ET Why is everyone so bitter? I am a BO supporter, and just belive he is more qualified than HRC. I frankly don’t believe Bill Clionton did as much as people give him credit for. He inherited a “good economy”. What about NAFTA? And what about Hillary? She was only a first lady, and won the senate due to Bill Clinton cronies! Do you honestly believe she can handle the world stage! The world is sick and tired of the same old people in politics in America! Maybe, just maybe we can atleast get our gas prices lowered with BO! Dear Terry, This was the first good laugh I had all day. Especially the part about Bill Clinton inheriting a “good economy.” Really, you should write stand up. Cindy in Texas |
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| Wendy L. Rosen |
June 28th, 2008 12:20 am ET I think that they are both great: Hillary and Obama. Let’s get a democratic in the White House in November and try to change this country around. The Bush regime has severely damaged the economy, our world-image, and the environment. The war in Iraq was a terrible mistake. This country needs Obama for president. |
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| JOENC |
June 28th, 2008 12:22 am ET For all the people who are still Hillary haters please stop. You continue to say that her 18 million votes are worthless, please show a little respect for the former first lady. She put her heart and soul into this campaign and now she is trying to unite the democratic party. Obama needs her voters in November to win this election, so please stop being so divisive. Hillary is a great women and a great leader! |
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| Julia |
June 28th, 2008 12:22 am ET I hope Hillary comes back; she is sharp and has lots of experience. |
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| Lizzie |
June 28th, 2008 12:22 am ET Women? Feminist- STOP IT. You are not fooling anyone. If Obama loses and there is any perception that the Clintons was the cause, Blacks will never forgive the party and won’t vote. So thinking Hillary will win in 2012 is ubsurd, and voting for McCain out of bitterness, is taking a huge, I mean, a huge risk. No one believes that it is because he is not qualified? How is Hillary more qualified than Obama? No one here is fooled. its because she is a woman that many of these women on these chats say this stuff. |
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| Anne Woods |
June 28th, 2008 12:26 am ET My family (8 of us) will be voting McCain. We originally were for Hillary, although we did not agree with all of her planned policies. Barack Obama is scary with his scary friends (Rev. Wright, Fr. Phleger, Rezko, Ayers, Auchi), his many donations received from bankers and lenders who he plans to help with the mortgage bailout, his coke habit, support and membership in a racist church for 20+ years. NoObama…Ever! |
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| seah |
June 28th, 2008 12:32 am ET Hillary remains the best person for President. She is still at the top Obama United the Black Community in Solidarity, getting the delegates in the high populated black areas. Only reason he received higher delegates. Hillary made History with record number of votes………………………… The people want her, still do. Nancy Pelosi said “obama has no experience, just young and has ideas” We need a Strong President Not a speech or an idea, Or Nancy Pelosi’s puppet. |
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| vic |
June 28th, 2008 12:32 am ET Lampe , think about what youre saying. youre gonna hand over the welfare of this country and single shot at steering this country in the right direction to Mcain who can only give us 4 more years of economic devastation for the sake of ‘’sweet revenge”. You and whoever is thinking like you dont care about this country or getting us out of this mess that we are in” home forclosures, poverty, wreckless climate control programs, hundreds of my brothers in arms heroically dying in Iraq over a stratigic blunder. Spend one day with me in Iraq then try to vote for mc cain. And in case you havent realized. I’M A VET…and if you still want sweet revenge, leave the country and burn your pass port in october. |
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| John |
June 28th, 2008 12:35 am ET Let Obama and his political hypocrites have their four years. Awfully hard to run a “change” campaign when suddenly YOU are the insider and its your record that is getting ripped apart in the press. Assuming he makes the whitehouse - Hillary had to “play nice”; McCain isn’t so restricted. I’m expecting that we’ll see a lot of dirt start being dug up about Mr. Say-Lots-Promise-Nothing when the real election starts. I’m going to be laughing already when the DNC starts tallying up their votes here in Michigan; throwing their support behind a candidate is one thing. Pissing off a heavy union state that has been a consistent democratic supporter by saying “you count for less than a traitors state and a conservative stronghold that have fewer votes than you” is not smart. The last republican candidate for governor here found that out the hard way; we have long memories and aren’t above an eye for an eye. |
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| Belle |
June 28th, 2008 12:40 am ET For those that still tout Obama won 11 states in a row…he did not win BIG states and he limped across the finish line. This was the closest contest in Democratic History. The 2nd closest had a 700 delegate difference!!! However, the media touted Obama, the DNC changed the outcome and Obama is the nominee. Most of us 18 Million Clinton supporters may have already MAXED our contributions to her. I don’t foresee a VP slot for Senator Clinton…and if offered, I am not sure she should take it. So far, Senator Obama has had great rhetoric, but no follow through, in that if he is President, and turns out to be ineffective, then being a VP would hurt Clinton if she decides to run again. I really believe if Clinton would have dumped her chief strategist in January, and ran her campaign like she did after Texas, she would have been the nominee….but that will only help her next time around. In spite of all of the pundits slamming Clinton on a daily basis, in spite of the hatred from bloggers, Clinton, like Obama, has shown true grit and determination. Even now the media can’t seem to stop either slamming Clinton or supposing what she is feeling. The easiest way to determine that would be to simply ask her! After all…isn’t that what JOURNALISTS are supposed to do? |
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| Henry |
June 28th, 2008 12:43 am ET I am a registered Democrat but will not be voting for Obama come the general election. Obama has no substance. He is weak and is only using the Clintons to win. He knows that he cannot win without Hillary by his side but he does not want to give her the VP slot because he is afraid of her. The democratic party has no scrupples and no dignity. They screwed Hillary so her supporters should screw the party. John McCain has better policies than Obama and is a much stronger person. McCain will protect this country better than Obama. With Obama in office we will get attacked again and again…when your taxes start going up don’t complain…you will not have more money in your pocket with obama…all you will have is change…spare change.. |
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| Willow |
June 28th, 2008 12:49 am ET I don’t think the Clinton empire is over, but I think it was a bit bruised. HRC may come back and try it again in four or eight years, but never again will it be the same. People are looking at her and Bill with a slightly jaded eye. they have damaged their legacy somewhat and I think people will remember. Of course, there have been a lot of long standing Senators that have come back and did good works. Ted Kennedy is one that I thought would never be able to come back. but people still remember at times. |
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| yen |
June 28th, 2008 12:49 am ET I have forgiven Hillary Clinton, but I have not forgotten her nasty attempt to win. Of course they (her and Bill) are useful political workers but the love they had from many many followers like myself and those around me is no longer there. Time will tell how things will change. |
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| Brandy |
June 28th, 2008 12:51 am ET Hillary Clinton is the most remarkable and amazing woman. I admire and respect her so much. Obama scares me to death. He has no experience. He needs Hillary alongside him to teach him how to do his job. I pray everyday for a miracle at the convention and that Hillary will be the nominee (assuming that is what she still wants). The media unfairly bashed her repeatedly throughout the majority of her campaign, especially at the end. If the media had stuck to the facts rather than creating all of the drama that they like to create then all of this Obama drama would be over and Hillary would be our nominee. I am grateful for people like Hillary Clinton who have done so much for America and despite the negative things that many have said about her, she still wants to do as much good for this country as she possibly can. To that I say, “Go Hillary!” |
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| Paul |
June 28th, 2008 12:53 am ET All I can say is this election will be very interesting. Senator Obama is too inexperinced for my taste. Senator Clinton thinks the white house is hers and we shouldn’t even have an election. We should just lead her to the door and let her take the oath. Senator McCain seems to be on both sides of the isle. So it should be very interesting. I think it is funny all the hate shown here from everyone’s supporters. but I think repsect should be shown all canidates. I’m soo tired of seeing McShame, McBush, Billery, or Nobama. Whether you like them or not they deserve basic respect given in a polite society |
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| LEH |
June 28th, 2008 12:57 am ET If the Obama supporters really believe that their candidate is truly electable on his OWN MERITS, then why do you whine about Hillary supporter who REFUSE to support Obama? Are you not confident about your candidate’s electability? |
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| TerryDo |
June 28th, 2008 1:18 am ET Teresa June 27th, 2008 11:05 pm ET Teresa, I could not have stated your sentiment better. Obama and his campaign think that it will all just pass away like turbulent waters, but this primary with its sexism, the outright in your face for Obama during the primaries was and still is detestable, and then finally the sell out by the RBC and the super delegates just broke the Democratic Party and has divided their party which even crazy glue could not bond together again. And these are some of the reasons that PUMA PAC is so active in keeping this years corruption in the Democratic Party. So, come and visit their web site and join us, the many member who will not stop fighting. Feminism is alive and well “Just Say No Deal! |
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| LK |
June 28th, 2008 1:20 am ET Tom, How can anyone discount “Operation Chaos?” As much as Rush Limbaugh might be a bumbling idiot, he does have a massive base of fans, and those ‘dittoheads’ were instructed by Lord Limbaugh to go and vote for Clinton to try and edge Obama out of the race because even the Republicans were convinced she’d be a weaker candidate in the fall. Why doesn’t this ever come up? Hillary Clinton did receive 18 million votes, yes, but those were far from supportive. LK |
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| Jason |
June 28th, 2008 1:38 am ET Hilary Clinton lost the nomination because Obama masterfully out-Clintoned the Clintons. The Clintons have always been masters at getting other people to say things about their opponents for them. Having them say what they cannot. But in this process, Obama did an even better job of this than the Clintons. Obama allowed people like Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and his admirers in the media to attack Clinton mercilessly. The Clintons simply didn’t know what hit them. After all, the Clintons had become accustomed to flowering media coverage and admiration. Heck, Bill was supposedly “the first black president” (remember?). Now all of a sudden the media was mocking them, being overly critical and completely in the tank for Obama. The Clintons finally got a taste of what it is like to be a Republican. In my opinion, Obama will not win this election. He gained the nomination largely by appealing to his race, through caucuses with rather strange and questionable voting practices, and by galvanizing the youth vote. In general elections, the largest voting block is senior citizens, the smallest is the youth vote, there are no strange caucuses, and the black vote will not win it for him either. The older voters will vote for experience, wisdom and stability. Obama doesn’t stand a chance against McCain. |
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| Mildred R. |
June 28th, 2008 1:46 am ET Make no mistake, President Bush may be judge by a lot of ignorant people now as the worst of all the presidents but there will be a time when a lot of us will realize that he was one of the best presidents and leaders of this world.. We thank God for him everyday. |
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| Mildred R. |
June 28th, 2008 1:54 am ET Make no mistake, President Bush may be judge now by a lot of us as the worst President,but history will prove a lot of us wrong. President Bush will be judge by history as one of the best president and leader of this world. Mark my word…. We thank God everyday for him and we pray that Mr. McCain will be as consistent , honest ,decent ,sincere and funny like him. |
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| jt |
June 28th, 2008 1:55 am ET She is not just a Clinton. This lady is smart. The DNC are soo afraid of race they put Obama ahead of Hillary. They know very soon that they made a mistake because the big Mac will upset Obama. I will vote for McCain because he is more experience and a war hero. |
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| Kat |
June 28th, 2008 2:09 am ET Never underestimate the Clintons, they are a tenacious bunch. Senator Clinton using the VP as a slingshot into the Prez seat? Sure seems like Obama is leaning towards choosing her as his running mate. I think she’d be more of an asset than a liability as some say. And I agree with earlier posts, watch out for Chelsea in the future. You’ll see her again. To Hillary supporters who will now vote for McCain: why the “cutting off your nose to spite your face?” Ridiculous. This is why Republicans win and get things done, (whether it makes sense or not), because the majority of the time they appear to band together no matter what. I understand that you may not agree with Obama on certain issues or question the standards of some of his former associates (excuse me but what politician doesn’t have some skeletons in the closet) but why switch parties completely? Do you want another 4 years of the same 8 we just had? |
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| Taco Mac |
June 28th, 2008 2:11 am ET Nice to see Hillary campaigning with Obama, but the era of the Clintons really is over. And it’s not because of Hillary. To be truthful, it’s the Bill Clinton era that really is over. Bill Clinton lacked credibility as a Democrat when he gave us NAFTA, the biggest American job-killing program in history. This spot on his record cost Democrats their majority control of Congress in 1994. Today, Democrats have the best opportunity in years to reclaim the mantle of economic protectionism for all of the working people of America, with the ideal presidential candidate in Barack Obama. To Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, and all their DLC cohorts: it’s time to get out of the way and start respecting our working people. The Real Democratic Party is back, it’s in charge, and it will win in a landslide this November. |
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| Andrew MN |
June 28th, 2008 2:13 am ET It will be funny to see how the anti-Obama supporters act when Obama wins the presidency, and goes down as one of the greatest presidents in history. I’m sure they’ll jump ship and pretend like they never said those horrible things about him… |
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| Carol |
June 28th, 2008 2:13 am ET I continue to be amazed at the devoted Hillary folks who so quickly forgot (or ignored) her description of her Bosnia visit, plus her comment about RFK being “assasinated in June.” Hmmm. |
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| Aida |
June 28th, 2008 2:45 am ET I am so proud of the Clintons and the Obamas for putting their country and their party first by showing us all what unity means…not that I had any doubt that they would do so. Dont’ forget that there are always ups and downs to say the least in any family or friendship but understanding and forgiveness is the key. Let us too not forget the wisdom of the verse from the Bible that tells us that a house divided against itself cannot stand…..especially those of us that want to take back the White House in November!! |
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| Susan, Seattle |
June 28th, 2008 2:45 am ET Obama needs Hillary. As she alluded to in her speech today, Obama may be about change, but Hillary is about PROGRESS. He will need her in order to effect change so that it can tbe turned into actual progress. She weilds great power with those 18 million voters, who by the way I believe have actually grown in number since the primary began. Obama knows that. So, yes, he would be wise to choose her as the VP. How could he not sit there today and watch her talk with that crowd, and think to himself, “my god, she really knows how to do this stuff. It is so natural to her.” I would love to see them join forces, critics be damned, and create the most dynamic, original, and effective Pres/VP partnership ever….something totally unique. Rewrite the book on this relationship. Make Hillary VP & Health Care Czar. That’s a ticket I can get behind with my whole heart. That may be the only way I can vote for Obama, to tell you the truth. |
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| JC |
June 28th, 2008 2:52 am ET I’m one of the 18 million who will not vote for Obama, never. |
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| Alyssa |
June 28th, 2008 3:10 am ET Obama and Hillary really aren’t the same on the issues…care to know why? Obama incessantly flip-flops. This action occurs on a daily basis. I have NO idea what his real stances are! It’s amusing how Obama’s stances suddenly change depending upon the crowd he’s addressing. I already know the guy is a fraud. Great! We’re stuck with two lousy candidates. I’ll vote for the lesser of two evils. At least I know who John McCain is and what he stands for. |
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| JAL |
June 28th, 2008 3:17 am ET The BO supporters are forgetting that it was/is those uneducated working class voters that are the backbone of this country. The lack of a formal education does not make them stupid. To the contrary, I personally trust the opinion of those who have been educated from the school of hard knocks over those who hail from the ivory tower. BO’s resume consists of being a community organizer and as a Senate fence sitter. Sweet tongues in global arenas are plentiful and we need someone who can do more than talk. I too wish Hillary would run an Independant. I know that she has my vote. |
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| Brodie |
June 28th, 2008 3:17 am ET Given that there has been less and less talk of the so called “dream ticket” I would not be surprised if that come the convention Senator Obama chooses someone like Wesley Clark as VP and promises Senator Clinton a Cabinet position (Secretary of Health and Human Services or Secretary of State even) to give her something for all the hard work she did in the primary race and to help bring the 18 million democrats that voted for her in the primaries to the polls in November voting Obama. And while I am not a Clinton backer, I kinda hope Senator Obama does this because the Clinton machine is strong in the democrat party and to ignore the power of the Clinton machine could possibly aid the republican party. |
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| Jane |
June 28th, 2008 3:22 am ET Hillary is a class act - smart, gracious, witty, and sincere. |
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| John Easterbrooke |
June 28th, 2008 3:26 am ET I have been a keen watcher of the US political scene for years. Being a Canadian I could never understand the supposed hatred that has built up over the Clintons. They are both intelligent progressive people of high ability and the Clinton years were very prosperous for the American people. In contrast to the Bush II legacy, which was at best incompetent, and at worst treachery, what is the problem here? I cannot believe that the majority of the American people actually despise educated people. George bush was an extremely poor example of the best that American can offer. |
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| Cindy |
June 28th, 2008 3:39 am ET Well of course Hillary’s smiling, your article hit the nail right on the head. She ran an excellent campaign especially the latter half, but she’s happy for a variety of reasons. For one thing, now she doesn’t have to endure the rampant sexist reporting that took place throughout her campaign. The media heaped (un-earned) praise on Obama time & time again, then remarked about her clothes, her daughter, her husband, on and on it went unrelentingly with the media all the while turning a blind eye. She also doesn’t have to play the “bad guy” anymore, McCain will do that for her, pointing out all of Obama’s flip flops, short comings, and in short, his weaknesses as a candidate for the highest office in the land. She’s happy not just because of all of the millions who love and voted for her, but also because many Democrats are never going to compromise their principles to vote for Obama. She has to feel flattered by that kind of loyalty, who wouldn’t? |
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| Tina |
June 28th, 2008 3:48 am ET I look at it this way. I am from Ill and I have heard Obama talk about what he has done for Illinois. He has done nothing for us. All you democratcs need to really listen to this man. He is not telling you the truth. He may be a good speaker but he does not have the experience to run this country. You all say Bush has been a terrible president if you think so then maybe you need to run. I would not want the position. He is there trying to defend our country and all we do is put him down. I am a big supporter for CNN but I am very disappointed with them right now. All you hear is about Obama this and Obama that. John McCain is more deserving and needs to be respected more and I could care less who Obama picks as his VP. Voters really need to pay attention to what each Obama and McCain say and then vote. We have a long time until Nov and I for one will not be voting for someone who says they have really helped my state. I live in Southern Illinois and we are the forgotten part of the state. Really only Chicago gets help because we have a gov who gets to live in Chicago instead of springfield and we have Obama for a Sen. I am voting for John McCain because I belive he is a better canidate and he would do a better job running this country. He has the experience and know how to do. Go John McCain |
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| Duke |
June 28th, 2008 3:51 am ET You Americans are really something! All Barrack did was come up with a catchy slogan that everyone liked! what did he actually say… Nothing!! I love how people say ” Bill Clinton inherited a good economy” you should all thank Bill for the best 8 economic years of your lives. Everywhere Bill goes outside of the US he sells out; he did a speaking tour of Canada where he was selling out stadiums, try that with H.W. Bush and see where that goes. You guys had a real winner in Hillary and you blew it; you went for a gimmick not much different than the terminator. Granted Barrack is a good public speaker but a president he is not. I can’t wait to see the changes he brings about, my guess is it will be “status quo”. Next president in 2012 will be Branjelina with George Clooney as VP!!! |
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| Amanda |
June 28th, 2008 4:20 am ET I am shocked that people with such strong opinions can’t even write their opinions in proper English. Please, Obama, work on education. This proves that we need it. |
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| Claire |
June 28th, 2008 4:21 am ET Why are people still blaming Obama for winning? He ran a competent, impressive grassroots campaign and played by the rules all along. And that was in spite of the bigotry and smear campaigns against him, and a lot of bad press (eg., endless coverage of the Wright and “cling” episodes.). There was no ole-boys conspiracy. Democrats should unite today. Obama needs Democrats’ unified support from now until November and Hillary will need it for any future runs. |
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| SLK |
June 28th, 2008 4:24 am ET Its a shame that there are still Democrats (Obama Supporters) who are clinging on to the camp politics even at the time when the party is talking Unity. I forsee a situation where Obama loses and Hillary getting herself ready for 2012, not because I wish him bad, but that his followers continue to devide the electorate that is much needed for Obama. Its a fact that 18 million voters voted against Obama. It will take maturity in the part of his supporters to get a slice of that 18 million. |
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| Del |
June 28th, 2008 4:27 am ET I am a staunch supporter of Hillary Clinton and I still believe that she is much more qualified than Barack Obama. That being said, there is absolutely NO way that I will be voting for John McCain in November. In my mind, that would be like voting for 4 more years of “the Shrub”. Since I didn’t vote for him in 2000 or 2004, why should I do so now? I will vote for Obama regardless of who his VP nominee is. I agree that all of the anger, bitterness, etc. needs to be put aside. There is too much at stake to waste time with whining and licking our wounds. Sen. Clinton said as much in her concession speech. Let’s take a cue from her & exhibit the same kind of grace & bravery in defeat! |
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| Mel |
June 28th, 2008 4:27 am ET why do you all hate Hillary, she is doing the best she can to help Obama ….I am a Democrat and voted for Hillary , however I will now donate my money to McCain campaign and my family and friends and I will vote for McCain come general election, then you will know where the 18 millions who voted for Hillary will be….Obama will lose without Hillary!!!! |
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| rezn |
June 28th, 2008 4:45 am ET Both Hillary and Obama show great character in their pledges for unity. Remember the issues and principles that we are all fighting for. Vote as one and we all win in November. |
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| Ruben & Dianne |
June 28th, 2008 5:12 am ET With Hillary in the ticket there is no way to stop Obama to be President. Go Hillary! |
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| stOOpid |
June 28th, 2008 5:23 am ET Female or not she is the most tenacious politician in the history of our great democratic experiment. Traits of a true leader & more importantly a great president. For the first time in my adult life I went into the voting booth to vote along party lines & voted from the gut…it was an easy decision…she earned it. |
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| Ron |
June 28th, 2008 5:34 am ET For nearly a half a century the democrats have been promising help to the lower class poor, well where is it.certainly not in upstate New York where Hillary is supposed to be senator, still waiting for all those jobs you promised. Obama/Clinton—The PipeDream team |
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| Sandee Portland, Or |
June 28th, 2008 5:40 am ET Teresa, go ahead and vote for McCain. I, too am an educated white female who would like to see a female become President; however, I do not want to see a dynasty formed. The Clintons had their time in politics, now it is time for some newbies to join the fray. As an educated woman, I honestly do not see how you could possibly vote for McCain if you are a Hillary supporter. He is against everything the Democrats and Hillary stand for. If you are such a feminist, why would you vote for someone who will reverse Roe vs. Wade and take away your female rights. |
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| Kevin |
June 28th, 2008 5:57 am ET Shouldn’t they have met up in a town called Bribery? |
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| JohnBoy |
June 28th, 2008 6:16 am ET Tax the Rich, pay off Hillarys debt. |
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| heidi |
June 28th, 2008 6:21 am ET “The Change WE can believe in” It not just the fact that a woman and an African- American ran for President of the United States that makes this election year out of the ordinary but the fact that one of them was able to acheive the nomination for major party is a testament of change (literally)! I supported Barack but, I will admit I missed Hillary over the last few weeks and was glad to see her back on the sceen. She is a fighter and despite what happen on the campaign trail, I think she is an awesome woman and leader. Nobody is perfect. This woman is strong and a force to be reckon with. It seems that Barack may be too difficult for those stuck on stupid or hatred to figure out (just my opinion). They are trying to label a person that is fully capable of defining themselves. Perhaps if they spent less time tearing him down and focus on the issues, people would understand him more accurately. For example, they claim he is the most liberal democrat but, he seems to be moderate to me with his latest voting record. It seems like people like a good fight and the Clintons are superior at it but, at this moment in time we need more than old style politics. It is time to move on. As a nation we can not grow in Gridlock. There are too many issues facing this nation that must be addressed. The needs of the people are going unmet while Washington is catering to big businesses and special interest groups (the greedy). I strongly believe Clinton must stay in the fight but perhaps she must come from a different angle or maybe not. |
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| ken |
June 28th, 2008 6:32 am ET I hope they are around. How could you not like them even if you are Republican. The Bill was in….he took over a deficet and made it a surplus,,,,,people were working………the stocks were up…….the biggest thing any worried about is if Bill was getting any…….Wow that’s really serious news……ya right…….you have a president here…..that has lied/misled us into war. killed our kids and innocent otthers for the energy giants. He walks around with a smile because he has accmomplishe his job. Remember….he is not here for the middle class america. He has accomplished it for the energy giants and all his cronies. Give me the Clintons anytime. |
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| Antonio Diaz |
June 28th, 2008 6:36 am ET Hillary Clinton should be the VP. If doesnt happen to be that way, MANY of her voters will go for McCain. That’s is a FACT, my friends. Obama/Hillary ‘08 |
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| Tom |
June 28th, 2008 7:03 am ET There are at least two myths here. The first is that Hillary did not get 18 million votes. “The Clintons” got 18 million votes and that is significant. Many of her votes were for Bill and the memory of the 1990’s. Even her most loyal supporters would refer to “The Clintons” when appearing on the news shows. So, it begs the question: who was the real candidate? Hillary, Bill or Billary? The second is that she lost due to sexism. This is just false. There is no question that people voted for Bill and sometimes Billary. Hillary would never have gotten nearly without running as “The Clintons” and she lost because people recognized this candidacy for what it was. An attempt to put the Clintons back in office and not to elect Hillary. In the end she tried to have it both ways and it failed. The era of the Clintons is over and this country should not have or embrace royalty and it time to move on. It is also hard to understand how she is being allowed to exploit the sexism charge. Her campaign was only possible because of Bill and she can not claim the mantle of a self-made woman who was denied the big prize. That was low and undermines the women in office who earned the right to be there and stand on their own names. Can anyone name “Mr. Feinstein”, “Mr. Hutchison”, “Mr. Collins” what they do for a living or even if there is one? I cannot, but these are all US Senators with great accomplishments and that is all the difference in the world. |
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| Lindsey |
June 28th, 2008 7:06 am ET I don’t like Hillary but I’ve got to hand it to her…. she bitterly held on until the end and still comes out smelling like a rose. The Clintons are two of the most resilient politicians in the modern era. They don’t just survive scandals, difficulties and defeats… they thrive. |
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| Arlene |
June 28th, 2008 7:14 am ET When was the last time we had two intelegent, dynamic politicians representing both women and minorities seek the highest office in America? If we let this opportunity slip away we will pay the price for many years to come. Our support for candidates must be based on their position on issues, not how they walk the red carpet. Setting aside personal misconduct, the Clinton Presidency served us well. I’m proud that Hillary represents me as my Senator and I would like to see her become part of the Democratic ticket. |
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| jimbo |
June 28th, 2008 7:18 am ET If Obama does not pick Hillary for VP he will lose the electoral college. 18 million supporters are NOT going to back him - maybe some but not all… but with Hillary on the ticket he stands a good chance of winning many states. His supporters may grumble about Hillary but they will not switch to McCain. Many of Hil | |

