David Gergen
Fmr. Presidential Adviser
CNN Sr. Political Analyst
In these final weeks of the Democratic primary process, Hillary Clinton has not only piled up votes, but she has also amassed some powerful arguments for her candidacy. Since March 5, she has won more than half of the contests and beaten Barack Obama in the popular vote, 6.8 million to 6.2 million. Moreover, she has consistently been outshining Obama as a fall candidate against John McCain in a number of key states - Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania most prominent among them. So, there is more than just vanity behind her efforts to pull off a last-minute upset.
Even so, Obama can well argue that he has even more powerful arguments to claim the party crown. Yes, she has won the second half of the game, but think about it this way:
if the Patriots and the Giants play a re-match for the Super Bowl and the Patriots win the first half by two touchdowns and the Giants win the second half by 10 points - well, the Giants can claim they emerged as the stronger team at the end, but the Patriots win the game. (Go Pats!)
And just so here, as far as Obama is concerned: he won the first half by a sizable margin, she won the second half - yet he still winds up with more total points on the board. Counting Puerto Rico and the outcome of the Rules deliberations on Saturday, he is still more than 100 ahead in pledged delegates; he has won 33 of 51 contests so far (with Montana and South Dakota still to go), and by most normal standards of counting, he has won more popular votes. (Her claim that the ballots in Florida and Michigan should be counted as full votes seems dubious at best when her own representatives at the Rules committee on Saturday came out in favor of reducing both states to half vote status.) Final point for Obama: the flow of superdelegates is overwhelmingly in his direction. After Super Tuesday, Hillary had a superdelegate lead of over 70. He has now erased that margin and built a lead of over 40.
So, as strong as Clinton's arguments are and as much credit as she deserves for ending up with a spirited, successful finale, the hour draws near for her to make some tough decisions. Does she fight on to Denver, suspend her active campaign and hope that he falls apart, or bow out with a fulsome endorsement of Obama?
My bet is that she chooses Option 3 and does it before the end of the week. She is smart enough to recognize that on Saturday, the hottest dispute came down to just four delegates from Michigan. It is hard to imagine that she will take that fight all the way to Denver, especially when so many of her own heavyweight supporters won't have their hearts in it. Option 2 has logic to it, but she would risk coming off as a very sore loser. With Option 3, she can begin to pivot toward a strong push for Obama this fall - and keep open doors for her own future.
But this doesn't let Obama off the hook in the endgame - not by any means. He has to remember what Churchill said: "In Victory, Magnanimity." Just as she must be gracious, he must be magnanimous. I would imagine that serious back channel conversations have already started but if not, they will need to begin immediately. The days ahead will call of delicate and deft diplomacy on both sides if they hope to heal the angry rifts among their supporters and unite for the fall. And that diplomacy will clearly call not only for Obama to pay her proper respect (as he has been doing on the stump recently) but for the two of them to talk through what role she might play, if any, in an Obama Administration - starting with the vice presidency. More on her possible role in a future posting. For now, let's take a ringside seat to watch as the final moments of this historic primary struggle play out.
| Jay, Denver CO |
June 2nd, 2008 4:49 pm ET Neato... she's done well with all her Republican Fattie-Rush primary supporters... good luck translating that to a win in November slappy! |
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| Alex |
June 2nd, 2008 4:55 pm ET Face it folks...the DNC and powers to be sold Hillary Clinton out. Don't tell me the Democrats don't have their own group of "good old boys." They started lining up for jobs in Barrack's administration (should he win) starting with Bill Richardson weeks ago. Its all about power and who has the juice. "Change" my ass...same old politics, different faces, different party but same result! |
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| Devin Charles |
June 2nd, 2008 5:08 pm ET Mr. Gergen, my hope is that you are right, and that Hillary does choose Option 3. I for one am ready to unify the party and ultimately the country. She has some very heavy duty players on her team, and I cannot wait to get them all going in the same direction. That will be quite a formidable force! But even more seriously, we really need to talk about your choice in football teams. I mean, Pats? Sheesh... Thanks for all your input to the reporting, David. I really appreciate it! |
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| Pat |
June 2nd, 2008 5:50 pm ET This is not the final days of the campaign. We have the convention. I feel that Hillary should go that route. Hillary stick to your roots and continue to show the people that you are the winner. The media has caused so many hostile feelings with the voters it is very possible that our next riots will be very soon. Or worse another war in the states. (North & South). Super delegates had better get their heads out of their bottoms and look at everything and not be biased as the media has been in these primaries. Caucus? Where are the votes? Media says they are unrecorded. HUH!!! Sounds like body odor BO to me. |
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| linda from indy |
June 2nd, 2008 5:59 pm ET Don't you get it! The only reason Obama is ahead is due to the earlier voting states....before the fallout from his pastor Jeremiah Wright and the Catholic priest...not to mention a lot of his other political gaffes & questionable friendships (Ayres, etc.) Guess what...a lot of those earlier voters are very unsure now. Many of them would like to have their votes back. Hillary has been winning every major State since all of this has happened! There would be a totally different outcome if those earlier States could have a re-vote! I, a Hillary supporter, will never vote for Obama in the fall election and there are many of us like that. The Democratic party better pay attention to this if they want to win in the fall!!!! |
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| Larry |
June 2nd, 2008 6:10 pm ET Are we to believe that all this stuff about Obama's past ie: church, Chicago slumming & politics, etc were totally unknown before the race for the dem candidate began? It looks like the candidates went into this primary race without having any sense on the competition. Its amazing that not even former Sen. Edwards had any intelligence gathering for possible issue by the infamous 'anonymous'. |
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| Jacqueline |
June 2nd, 2008 6:10 pm ET Hi Mr. Gergen, As usual, good sound advice from you. However, I do not think it would be wise for Obama to consider Clinto for VP. That would be too dangerous for him unless Senator Obama think it wise to keep his enemies close, but that would be just a little too close for comfort. Unlike the Rev. Wright bit, the media has already put to rest - in just two days, Hillary Clinton's 'assassination' comment. As serious as her comment was, and as desperate as she and president Clinton are to be in that powerful house again, Barack Obama would have to be suicidal to have her as vice president. If he allowed that, Hillary would definitely find a way to replace him before his term was up. I don't doubt that for a minute. |
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| Duarte Santos |
June 2nd, 2008 6:18 pm ET Let's never forget that this is the real WMD, the ultimate one dreamed by Bin Laden and executed by Barack Obama. All these orchestrated stories between Obama and the Church have no other objective but to play again with the naive nature of the Americans and divert their attention from the fact that he's by political ambition a supposedly Christian when, in fact, he's a devoted Islamic follower. After November, darn stupid Americans, will finally find the WMD. |
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| Cathy |
June 2nd, 2008 6:33 pm ET I do not believe the DNC sold Hillary Clinton out. (Alex 4:55 pm). They reached a compromise with two state parties and Hillary actually got more out of it delegate-wise than Barack Obama. Alex, this panel could not hand a load of delegates to either of these candidate in a manner that would have disregarded the votes cast in 48 other states and perhaps changed the outcome of this primary. This was about voters in two states, not the two candidates. Beyond that, Clinton had 13 supporters on that panel/committee, 5 of whom eventially voted in an effort to promote party unity. David, nice piece. I agree that option 3 is most likely. She will not have support within party leadership to move forward with a fight and she must consider what is best for the party and what most benefits her personally/professionally. A continued fight serves no positive purpose and will only bring about more division within the party. |
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| Emma |
June 2nd, 2008 6:39 pm ET This sounds like the 2000 general election all over again. The candidate with the most votes doesn't win. So much for "of the people, by the people, for the people." The dumb democrats will be sorry that they bought into the Obama charade come November. They are too dull to see that ever since the media started treating Obama the same way they have treated Clinton for months, Obama's favorability and appeal has dropped remarkably. And now he sure looks like every other politician, even though he claims he is different. Hmm, started wearing a flag pin & left his church, only after they became issues for him in the election. That sounds like the same old politics to me – what a sell out Obama. Good luck dems, you will need it. Here is hoping Hillary sticks around for a while, cuz they just might come crawling back to her before November, after the next Obama firestorm breaks.... |
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| Johanne Rondeau-Wall |
June 2nd, 2008 6:46 pm ET It is easier for an inexperienced man, regardless of his background, to slip through the eye of a needle than it is for an experienced woman, regardless of her background, to become president of the United States of America |
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| Cynthia |
June 2nd, 2008 6:47 pm ET Option 3 is the best option for the both of them – Senator Clinton still has a career in the Senate, could run for Governor of New York or could be placed in an important Cabinet position. The Democratic Party needs to pull together because regardless of the differences between the two campaigns it pales in comparison to the Republicans. For those that think that the DNC did not do fair by Senator Clinton giving the four extras delegates to Senator Obama – he can give her back those four and it still would not make a difference in the final outcome. |
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| Art |
June 2nd, 2008 6:56 pm ET David, I have long appreciated your commentary, since your days on the Evening News. Even though I am a supporter of Hillary Clinton, I think that your assessment about her options and the most likely outcome is probably correct. However, I am surprised about two things. The first is how so many commentators, yourself included, seem to have bought into the Barak Obama campaign narrative that the super delegates should go to the winner of the pledged delegates. There is absolutely nothing to suggest that this is what the Democratic party had in mind when it created the current approach to delegate selection. I have to hand it to the Obama team for getting you all to buy into their, self-serving narrative, but I am surprised that it happened. The second thing that I am curious about is why so few commentators have acknowledged the Clinton campaign arguement about the Electoral College, namely that she has won in the states where the electoral College votes are heavily concentrated, and that she polls stronger against Senator McCain than does Senator Obama in many of the key Electoral College states. I don't mean to diminish Senator Obama's primary victories in any way. However, I do think that you and others have discounted Senator Clinton's accomplishments and ignored (even dismissed) one of her key arguements. Regarding the popular vote, no matter how you count it, is an extremely close split of some 34 million voters. From my perspective, many of the super delegates have jumped too soon, opting for the political darling of the left in the party, and have in the process, failed to exercise their responsibility fully. Speaker Pelossi and Senate Leader Reid, have encouraged all of this. I think the unfortunate result will be another VERY close general election, and yet another McCarthy-McGovern-Kennedy-Kerry-wing of the party nominee, who can't win the general election. In retrospect, I think that the media will look foolish for not considering this more carefully as well. |
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| JC- Los Angeles |
June 2nd, 2008 7:05 pm ET As a registered independent with an open mind, I feel that Hillary will be a far more formidable general election candidate than Obama. Why the DNC chose long ago to support Obama is a mystery that can only be answered by the people pulling the strings. It's quite clear that Obama is a dot com. Why the DNC selected a candidate with no tangible experience, no foreign policy background, no military background, questionable associates and racist spirtual advisors is unfathomable to me. In true dot com parlance, Obama is saying trust me, your investment will be richly rewarded. The only group that would ever take that kind of meeting would have to be the DNC. Since democrats never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity, this one will be one for the ages. Obama is a pure follower; he worked for his wife at the law firm, followed her to Rev. Wright then followed him for 20 years. Throw in Rezko, Ayers and Pfleger and it's quite clear that he has been following for so long he doesn't even know who he is following. The only thing that rivals it is Bush sending a woman of color to the Middle East to broker peace; you can't make this stuff up. All this aside, what bothers me most is how Obama articulates himself once trouble brews. He sits on both sides of the fence, afraid to alienate one group while afraid to admonish another; how about denouncing outright bigotry; we Americans all deserve far better than this. |
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| Maggie |
June 2nd, 2008 7:15 pm ET Senator Clinton is a much better person than Senator Obama . Obama is the sum of all his close associates, Ayers, Rezko, Rev. Wright, Larry Sinclair, etc. Senator Obama should not be running on the democratic ticket since he is a socialist/marxist/communist type. He care little for the ordinary American. He just wants the power. He is a dud and can not win over McCain. |
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| Kristen |
June 2nd, 2008 7:19 pm ET Obama would be a fool to pick Hillary as VP and I don’t take him to be a fool. She has acted like a spoiled brat these last few months and shown what kind of VP she would be. Meddling, not trust worthy and pushing her own agenda. Look she lost, not the end of the world. Lots of other candidates lost also, do we see them making such a huge fuss no, because running for President can not be all about you and that’s what Clinton has made this race. She even had the nerve to try and play the sexiest card. If Obama losses in November he would be called out in a hot minute for trying to use the race factor. Bottom line, Clinton you lost deal with it. Life goes on just go ask Gore. He lost the 2000 election and I think it worked out well for him. |
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| Tammy, Berwick, LA |
June 2nd, 2008 7:41 pm ET I never knew the people of Florida and Michigan were half-people. They must be to only warrant a half-vote. The DNC is going to give this to Obama no matter how right Hillary is about her electability in November. Apparently he's the more politically correct candidate for them. God knows he's not the more qualified candidate. Hillary should take her fight to the convention on principle anyway (because FL and MI deserve better than the garbage they were given Saturday; all American voters deserve better than that). Hillary was fighting for everyone long before Obama ever thought about it. She has an obligation to see this through regardless of the ineptitude of the DNC. And maybe by some miracle of miracles, they will come to their senses before it's too late and they lose in November. I doubt it, though. |
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| Betty Ann, Nacogdoches,TX |
June 2nd, 2008 7:45 pm ET Hi David, |
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| Jan from Wood Dale IL |
June 2nd, 2008 8:02 pm ET You are asking Clinton supporters to make a huge leap of faith. Obama has been condescending in both speech and gestures (the shoulder brush off) when it comes to Clinton. Obama has failed to show Clinton the proper respect she is due just as a fellow member of the U.S. Senate and a Democratic Presidential nominee. I also find it ironic that Obama made such a fuss over the MI and FL primary results, saying that he didn't get a chance to campaign there. Well, what's his excuse for NOT campaigning for better recognition with the voters in WV, KY, and PR? He certainly had the time and the money. So which Obama do you espect Clinton supporters to believe? |
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| Mike - Rancho, CA |
June 2nd, 2008 8:08 pm ET David, You're finally sounding much more like an impartial and observing journalist/commentator. Perhaps some of AC has rubbed off on you recently. Good job, Anderson! |
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| Jerry Powers Texas |
June 2nd, 2008 8:22 pm ET As we hear it popular vote do not count it is the deligates which determine who runs for office . Why vote if they do not count? |
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| Chris - Hemet, Ca. |
June 2nd, 2008 8:23 pm ET After watching the results from the Rules Commitee on Saturday I just had to laugh. There's 1 minute left in the game, Obama leads 21-14 over Clinton and she's over on the sidelines trying to convince the refs that the game is close enough to go into overtime. Being a Raiders fan I shudder to think there may be another tuck rule waiting to strike!! |
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| rose de o |
June 2nd, 2008 8:27 pm ET This dnc problem about who to give the votes to is so not a problem at all. If everyone should sit down and just think for a minute, Obama did not register as a candidate to Florida and Michigan, how in the world is he getting any credits at all. Isnt the rule anywhere you go, in order to be recognized you need to sign up. And if you don't sign up, you know damm well you wont get any votes and credits. Why are you guys not following the rules. I very well know that this is not legal. There should be a rule to follow and as a United States citizen and tax payer, you guys should open the notebook and do it right. The only count that should be counted are the peoples vote, not superdelegates, delegates, republicans or democrats, THE PEOPLE 'S RIGHTS. THIS IS SO UPSETTING. |
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| Helen |
June 2nd, 2008 8:27 pm ET The Democratic candidate will be picked by the superdelegates. The DNC "punished" the Florida voters and I will work like heck to return the favor and get McCann elected in this state. They complain about how long it is taking to pick a candidate but they set up the voting dates in the primaries. It is now obvious that our voting system is a farce. The best way to get them to stop doing business as usual is to have them lose an election that should have been a cinch. It really will not matter as Obama is new to the scene and will not get anything done anyway. The big mistake is thinking that we will all join hands and ignore the back room dealings. |
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| Johnny |
June 2nd, 2008 8:54 pm ET Finally, Obama and the media can claim victory! |
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| Ron Borzini |
June 2nd, 2008 9:19 pm ET I think the choice for Senator Clinton is clear and she will choose Option 3. |
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| Mari, Salt Lake City |
June 2nd, 2008 9:20 pm ET Nice article, BUT......... the facts are that Sen. Obama is the clear winner. Had MI & FL not come into play, things would be different. The fact is that in national polls Hillary is still the most disliked candidate. I didn't like her in the 90's and I dislike her even more now that I have seen how evil she can be. Please....... there was NO SEXISM! When the campaign season began she was the "darling" the ONE TO BEAT. And then......... IOWA. Iowa surprised the Clintons & the DNC by voting for a new guy. What Hillary supporters refuse to SEE is the with ALL her experience and the wisdom that comes with it....... SHE VOTED FOR THE WAR! That's why I would not, could not, EVER vote for Mrs. Clinton. Also Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton IS NOT CHANGE! We need to move on, just because her husband was a good president does not mean she will be or should be. I am a 50-something-Roman Catholic, registered Independent supporting Sen. Barrack OBAMA! |
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| Loren Carlton |
June 2nd, 2008 9:40 pm ET I hear a lot of talk about aObama-Clinton ticket. It seems to me that the possibility is real that Senator Clinton might be be more interested in an important cabinet possition. Is this a likely possibility? L.C. Nebraska |
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| Annie Kate |
June 2nd, 2008 9:46 pm ET David, Did you ever watch John Elway come from behind in a game and win it for the Broncos when he was playing? If not you missed a treat. Elway to me proved the point that you don't' give up even at the end when it seems hopeless. Hillary should bow out graciously and go back to the Senate and work and let Obama campaign on his own. No matter what Hillary says when she bows out there will be people who voted for her that will not vote for Obama but will go for McCain because they are concerned with experience and don't feel that Obama has any. During the time Obama is campaigning Hillary could be really making a difference for us all now in the Senate. That to me would be more important than campaigning for someone else. Annie Kate |
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| Annie |
June 2nd, 2008 9:47 pm ET Hillary won States after they played race card made people very divisive. Annie, California. |
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| Loren Carlton |
June 2nd, 2008 9:52 pm ET position-( sorry about the spelling error.) an Obama-Clinton ticket. |
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| madeleine |
June 2nd, 2008 10:11 pm ET it is not relevant maybe...but i have been a democrat since i can remember voting. i will vote for McCain should obama get the nomination. The DNC sold themselves to the novelty...... Pundits say that there is time to heal....but there are scars and that will stay. If not Denver....Then We (Hillary Supporters) will all go to McCain. |
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| LINDA |
June 2nd, 2008 10:18 pm ET I'm very disappointed with both Obama and McCann, neither is really prepared to be President, one's too green and the other too confused. If Obama wants my vote then he needs to have Hillary as his Vice-President. V.P., not sec'y state, whatever – V.P.!!! Thank You. |
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| Steve From NYC |
June 2nd, 2008 10:27 pm ET What the DNC did with Florida and Michigan is amazing. While I personnaly believe was a stupid, and most certainly ill conceived (or more likely manipulated) plan, does fit in Perfectly for Obama. It follows right along with other offices he has won early in his career by "hijacking" the election. I think its too funny (in this almost 2 year primary, if you don't laugh, you cry) that one of these three WILL be the next President of the United States..... Dear Lord..... God bless us all when that day comes.... Does anyone truthfully think that either of the three is actually the best person to fill that role........ Every four years we have to pick the "lesser of two evils" |
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| Tricia |
June 2nd, 2008 10:32 pm ET I think it is time for Hillary to bow out, she is just being stubborn and is a sore loser. I think Barack Obama should have John Edwards as his VP because they both know what it is like to live middle class, they both grew up poor, Hillary doesn't have the slightest idea what it is like to want for anything and she is just more of Washington politics. |
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| Pat |
June 2nd, 2008 10:35 pm ET While this election has been exciting and historic, it portrays in my opinion the most flawed element of elections and that is the popular vote does not matter. Hillary has the overall lead, according to a few sources, should she not be the nominee? Should elections not be an exhibition of the people’s choice for president and not skewed by large states that throw favor to candidates due to the fact they have more delegates. Does this not show a major bias toward larger states and leave smaller states voiceless? The election system is flawed and often leaves the selection of the American people out of the White House |
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| anthony david |
June 2nd, 2008 10:39 pm ET I am a huge Hillary supporter who will never ever never vote for Barack . This election has been a total derailment toward my candidate. I along with 17 million others will be casting our votes for John Mc Cain. How dare the DEMOCRATIC PARTY turn this many Hillary voters off. Trust me when I say this this election will be handed over to the Republicans with our anti-musim vote. Keep the faith Hillary and never give up on the American people as we will never give up on you or your husband. |
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| Deva |
June 2nd, 2008 10:42 pm ET I usually like your analysis, but tonight, David, while roguish with the football analogy, are pollyanna in concept. Why would Hilliary start being gracious now? She hasn't been this entire primary. it is clear to me now the reason she even decided to be a NY resident was clearly to win a power position so she could be a presidential candidate – PA, OH, Puerto Rico – all heavily influenced by NY via politics, power brokers or black market connections... And as YOU have said on an earlier show, Obama doesn't want or need a 'food taster' in his administration. Are you not familiar with her history in Arkansas, other 'incidents' in Washington DC which clearly illustrate the Clintons modus operandi? The only reason Sen. Clinton would start 'behaving' as a team player is that she might finally be realizing that her politcal future could be at stake, if she is a sore loser in an era where closed door politics and insider plays is no longer accepted; not always a reworked 'truth.' |
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| Joe |
June 2nd, 2008 10:50 pm ET The Clinton campaign claim for the popular vote, and in particular comparisons to the Gore win of the popular vote over Bush in 2000 are erroneous. General elections like that of 2000 are based upon full elections in all states. In that case the popular vote was fairly measured in all states and makes a somewhat valid indication of the will of the people. (Although in heavily red or heavily blue states one might argue that more people would come out to vote if the election were based upon the popular vote.) On the other hand primaries are based upon a combination of both polls and caucuses (which do not accurately measure the same number of voters as polls.) Therefore the numbers that Senator Clinton quotes for the primaries cannot be compared to the popular vote of a general election. This is another example of Ms. Clinton’s constant attempt to distort the truth for personal gain. Just like her claims that she won Texas. In fact when you look at the total delegates, the measure that matters, is was Obama –99 Clinton – 94. OBAMA WON TEXAS. It is this constant habit of distorting the truth that makes Hillary Clinton NO BETTER than George W Bush. I do not want someone who cannot abide by the rules, or face the truth to run the country, Clinton is not qualified to be the President. |
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| BRAVEHEART from Imperial Beach, CA |
June 2nd, 2008 10:56 pm ET SCOOP – THIS JUST IN – Tomorrow night SEN Hillary Clinton will jump the shark in her NY Victory Celebration. She will speak first, before SEN Barack Obama has an opportunity. SEN Clinton will speak about a tough campaign, history being made, and the strength of SEN Obama's supporters. She will call for party unity, she will say that with her experience and his new ideas that will restore American government to the glory days of the first Clinton Administration...cue the shark...She will then claim (again) that with all the votes counted, she has won the popular vote with the most votes ever cast for a Democrat in the primary season, and she will note (again) that since 1972 the Democratic Party has always nominated the candidate with the most popular votes. She will call on the "superdelegates" to nominate her as the Presidential candidate and will pre-emptively agree to support SEN Obama as her Vice-Presidential nominee, again stating that with her experience and his new ideas they will combined form the best ticket the Democratic Party can nominate. Stunned silence follows...shark successfully jumped...and if in the next few days the "superdelegates" select SEN Obama instead as their Presidential candidate, he will be forced to take SEN Clinton as his VP candidate...after all, she will already have offered to share the ticket with him. Even if this ploy doesn't work right away...watch for SEN Obama's poll numbers to drop over the summer in the head-to-head with SEN McCain, and before the late August Dem Convention in Denver, SEN Clinton will make one final appeal to the "supers" to nominate her and she will bring SEN Obama along as the VP nominee. As the buttons said on "The Truman Show," HOW WILL IT END?...I don't know, but never underestimate the audacity of the couple from Hope! |
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| Steph |
June 2nd, 2008 10:58 pm ET it's just sad ... i wanted my 6,4 and 18month old daughters to not know a world where putting a woman in the white house was a revolutionary idea. I hope she does not take the VP role, its demeaning on levels that seem obvious to me as a woman. I'll vote dem regardless, too much riding on supreme court, but it will not be a vote that i'll be excited about. |
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| Dale18 |
June 2nd, 2008 10:59 pm ET I find you all to be very immature about what's going on. This is my second time being able to vote and I'm almost discourage by the hatred being caused by all of this. I thought I wanted to be a democratic but seeing how they act when they don't get there way is troubling to me. Didn't Hillary sign recognizing these votes wouldn't be counted. Why are her supporters so for her, I would be furious that she didn't care until she needed my vote. And I don't think it is fair for Obama to get the Michigan delegates. But even with me being upset I wouldn't lose focus of what's important. You people forget that people are dying under this administration, my friends and cousins overseas. For you to say that because one of your players in this team of Democrats is not playing you will cheer for the other team. Well I say damn you because this is my future your throwing away for hate and silliness. That is un American to just give up all because one thing did not go your way. We did not give up even when President Bush re took office and took back the Senate. |
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| May From VT |
June 2nd, 2008 11:02 pm ET linda from indy, I am an earlier voters. I am more than ever convinced that I voted for the right candidate, BARACK OBAMA. I heard many people saying that it's very sad that they voted for HC. |
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| janelle - missouri |
June 2nd, 2008 11:02 pm ET How can Hillary claim to be ahead in the popular vote and not count the caucus states, especially after she has fought so hard for every vote to count? Sounds like a double standard to me. Hillary's supporters keep talking about the 17 plus million people who have voted for her. How about the 17 plus million people who have voted for Obama? Does our vote not count? And where was Hillary's concern for the voters of Florida and Michigan when the DNC first stripped them of their delegates. Didn't Hillary realize last year that these were two important key states and the democrats couldn't risk ticking off the democratic base in these states? She didn't seem that concerned about those voters when she thought she'd have the nomination wrapped up by Super Tuesday . |
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| Kent Fitzsimmons,Illinois |
June 2nd, 2008 11:03 pm ET Hillary may be able to do more with a cabinet position than as VP. If she just wants to make history, well then, the VP would be her choice. If she really wants to do more for her country..........a cabinet position is the best choice................of course.........she may not choose to be a normal behind the scenes VP either. |
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| kay |
June 2nd, 2008 11:05 pm ET Looks like tin DNC has shot themselves in the foot. I live i FL an am whole person. Why is my vote only woth half as much? Hillary would be ahead, however they are now choosing who gets the delegate as well as giving us half count. They just gave the election to McCain with this action. Michigan people shoulld be equally upset. |
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| Kent Fitzsimmons,Illinois |
June 2nd, 2008 11:05 pm ET Hillary has been very relaxed for the past month. You can see a very different person than a few months ago............there may be some things we do not know as far as her role in the Obama Administration. I think she may be a key figure, or has been promised a key role in the new administration............. |
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| dorothy |
June 2nd, 2008 11:12 pm ET Wrong again, Barack Obama, is leading in the Popular votes, pledges delegates, the Super Delegates, and the most Cascus votes, and States, and his name was not on the Michigan Ballot. If the DNC, had given Hillary Clinton no Votes were would she be, because they did violate the RULES, the Penalty was Waived. It does appears Whites think that they are Entitled to Violate Rule, or Cheat, and still be RIGHT. What Kind of Truth is THAT?; The News Media, and Hillary Clinton's supporters even lie too, Jim & Dorothy |
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| Michelle Turner |
June 2nd, 2008 11:12 pm ET I am glad that the primary is over and that Clinton lost. I don't want and we don't need a president who is always claiming to be a victim. I just wish most of the women who have been trying to live vicariously through Clinton can get life of their own. It is true that sexism as well as raceism occured, but if you can't or won't try to over come it then you will be a victim of it. Clinton is a great leader when she refuses to allow other people to make her a victim, but does herself and other women no good when she makes herself the victim. As a working mother of 5 I like most women were hoping she would be the first woman president, instead she deminished herself by allowing herself to be a victim. |
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| Mildred Herbert |
June 2nd, 2008 11:13 pm ET The game isn't over with until Hillary get that touchdown. I blame that |
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| Mary |
June 2nd, 2008 11:20 pm ET A "TRUE HILLARY SUPPORTER" would NEVER, NEVER vote for McCain. Anyone who says they will vote for McCain insults Hillary and all she stands for. |
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| Matt |
June 2nd, 2008 11:21 pm ET Having Hillary on the ticket is a recipe for disaster. If Hillary's democatic supporters do not vote for Obama then please explain to me again the difference between a democrat and a republican; I am confused. He defeated her fairly and democrats should be proud of whomever represents the party. |
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| Trulove |
June 2nd, 2008 11:22 pm ET Hillary may be regarded as the political mother of Obama. She has done her best to nurture Obama about the political terrain and has prepared him to face dire political challenges. In the process she appeared to harming Obama, but in reality she has given him the cojones he needs to face any political foe despite odds. |
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| DannyCali |
June 2nd, 2008 11:23 pm ET Too late for Obama to resign from his church it already started very long |
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| john weremedic |
June 2nd, 2008 11:25 pm ET I have spent time in listening to Hillary. I and my family are going write in her name for the general election because I do not trust Obama or McCain. Each day will show more people will vote for Hillary which the PARTY has forgotten that there are 20% will not not for Obama. I will not vote for aman who doesn't have the proper knowledge of the world's problem. |
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| Mary |
June 2nd, 2008 11:28 pm ET Hillary is by far the better cancidate, the Dems are going to be sorry come November. The media got what it wanted, Obama. |
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| Dolores |
June 2nd, 2008 11:32 pm ET Hillary is going to be desperately longing for a position in the next administration. But why should she and old Bill be in the forefront in politics again. They are not trustworthy and have been given enough play in this whole process. No one owes either of them anything more. |
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| frank |
June 2nd, 2008 11:34 pm ET Hillar Clinton should be endorsed by the rest of superdelegates and those who already backed up Obama should switch to Clinton simply because this Barack will not become a good president for this country, he is willing to negotiate with the president of Iran who made commend to wipe out the state of israel and he is lagging in foriegn policy and since 911 we have been very safe and secured and I don't see him as a qualified candidate for this job.I and all my friends,relative,co workers voted for Hillary Clinton in North Carolina and if she doesn't get the nominee we will all vote for Mr MCcain in Fall. |
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| Robin Bahr |
June 2nd, 2008 11:35 pm ET David Gergen, |
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| Jen |
June 2nd, 2008 11:35 pm ET Reuters is reporting on it's scrolling banner that Clinton will ask her donors tomorrow night if they will support her in an Independent run for the White House!! No link yet, but all the networks should have it soon. |
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| Jen B. |
June 2nd, 2008 11:37 pm ET I am not enthusiastic about having Clinton as VP, it would be like having 3 Presidents in the White House, Obama, Hillary and Bill. And we know the last two bring plenty of baggage and negativity with them wherever they go. |
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| Giselle, Atlanta |
June 2nd, 2008 11:37 pm ET This has been a brutal primary season and while I do think that the media gave Barack a lot of favorable attention initially, I didn't and don't perceive that as bias; but as a natural derivative of the fact that Barack was the greater unknown. The fact that the media called the game prior to Hillary being prepared to concede only worked to her advantage. She had an opportunity to charge favoritism and –because she is a woman– sexism and she sometimes not so subtly brought race into the equation. It was really beneath what the democratic party is about. And then Barack's pastor problems just fed into the racial insecurity conundrum and Hillary almost took the nomination back. What some don't understand and some don't care, Barack, emotionally is just as white as the family that he came from. He was at Trinity learning how "Black" people think. And based on some of his comments, he does think that that's how "they" think. Note the "they and not the "we." What he didn't fully appreciate is that when people look at him, many will see him as black, period. And he then gets lumped right in to the perceived monolith. When that monolith is viewed as being negative, racially insensitive, mean-spirited, that's not a good thing. I hope everyone is happy with their conduct... |
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| Martha Flores |
June 2nd, 2008 11:39 pm ET I am so tired of CNN trying to decide the outcome of the election; can you just wait to see who the voters elect? You have no right to predict what you think should happen. I am confused why now you agree that the Super Delegates get to decide who will win. At the start of the race you all said the voters would be outraged if the Super Delegates gave their votes to HIllary and now it seems to be "ok" if the Delegates elect Barak. If HIllary does not get the nomination, the Democrats are going to loose in November. As a women I am deeply upset that the best candidate (Hillary) may not win. She is sharp, smart, relentless and unwavering. Barak will not measure up. His so called change involves many of the people that previously supported her, which shows that she is smart enough to have surrounded herself with a winning team. He will be another Jimmy Carter if he is elected. His speeches are so bland full of empty promises. I am tired of hearing fantasy from him already. I would rather see MCain in office, if Hillary does not win the Dem. nomination. MF |
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| Marc |
June 2nd, 2008 11:39 pm ET Some lady name Christian who was on youtube ranting and raving said that Obama is an inadequate black man and she will be voting for McCain. She also said that black people are voting for Obama and they don't even know what they are voting for. This is what this race has ended up being.....hatred between blacks and whites. Sad that people are voting for McCain just to spite Obama. And we wonder why other nations laugh at us when we try and tell them how to treat there people. We can't even get along right here in America. |
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| Francesca |
June 2nd, 2008 11:39 pm ET What a big disappointment with the DNC. I will no longer pay my dues to the DNC. Hillary was cheated by taking 4 delegates from her and given to Obama, while Obama chose to take away his name off the ballot so he can save money and spend it on Iowa. I surely hope Hillary takes it to the convention and fight till the end. For the record, my husband and I will not vote for Obama, we will vote for McCain. |
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| Alicia |
June 2nd, 2008 11:39 pm ET I think HRC had every right to stay in the race until it was finished. But not the 'earth scorching', racist and fuzzy math she came up with. When she did not need Michigan, it was not important. When she was ahead it was delegate count according to Icky Ickes. Obama has congratulated her on her low turnout (Puerto Rico) elections. Still, she offends him. I still think President Wiliam Jefferson Clinton was a great President. I used to respect Hillary......after this, I can't even look at her. Shame, shame and shame on you Hillary. You have made the Republicans proud quoting 'even Rush Limbutt!'. ****Florida and Michigan, Hillary did not care about your vote until she was losing!!!!! Wakeup!!!!! |
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| Brad Gibson (Batavia, IL) |
June 2nd, 2008 11:41 pm ET Kay, if you gave Hillary all the delagates from Florida a full vote she would still be behind. Nobody highjacked the election from her. She lost it. Frankly if she can't beat Obama I really don't want her as POTUS. Your state broke the rules and they even changed them for Hillary and still she can't win. Basically she improperly asked to change the rules of the game and the umpires said ok you can change the rules. I agree the DNC was not wise in removing all the delegates but they have now resolved that issue as best they could. I think that Obama has as much of a chance of beating McCain as her. The only way Obama would not win is if her supporters to not support her when she endorses Obama tomorrow or shortly there after. Please support Hillary and VOTE OBAMA! |
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| sarb |
June 2nd, 2008 11:43 pm ET I expect her to pick option 3. How can everyone in the media justify the michigan decion though. Why won't republicans exploit it. Obama the man who plays by the rules is going to allow the DNC to gift him 59 delegates he otherwise should have to fight for . Clearly the political balance here is with all the talk about affirmative action and the like payback time by the DNC to the black folks. OK but they sold out the country. If the republicans take over the whitehouse in November America can say goodbye to its international stature. You should not pull out of Iraq or afhganisthan but the tone and the focus needs to change big time. Mccain wont do that. Looks like America will follow Russia's lead into oblivion. |
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| ELIZABETH |
June 2nd, 2008 11:45 pm ET Bill Clinton is right this was and still is the most biased, the most unfair media coverage. Seemed to me you Anderson, you also have a crush on Obama, and Larry King as well. I guess everybody felt sorry for the black/white man and felt responsable to protect him by constantly and unfairly attacking the Clintons. It was if the entire senior democratic party was against the Clintons, gelous and unfair except a few good men and women who could see beyond politics and recognize the greatness that the Clintons would have been able to bring to America. In this game, you and I we all are loosers - and lost! |
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| Jorge |
June 2nd, 2008 11:45 pm ET While I understand that this is more internal to the Democratic Party, I believe that the Independents are being left out. And we are more than the Registered Democrats. I, for one, would not be caught dead voting for a "Prophet of the Change" or the Philadelphia Cream Cheese, for that matter. If the point to base the election is the War in Iraq... I remember that I was insulted because I didn't support it. Most of the people supported... most likely, those that now are saying that Obama's rejection to the war is the reason to choose him, were SUPPORTING OUR TROOPS INTO THE WAR (and, please, do not confuse my meaning... I am NOT TALKING about the troops, but the war) Should Religion and Politics ride in the same car... I will vote for the "good-ole politics" – McCain (as an epilogue... Is it my perception only or a lot of people cannot stand HRC because she stood by her husband instead of ditching him and getting Child Support and the bells... AND that she was born in a family with money?) |
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| Pope, Philly |
June 2nd, 2008 11:46 pm ET When Obama wins... Hillary will get some high level position in the administration and be a key player. Stop with this IF HILL DOESNT WIN I WILL VOTE FOR MCCAIN crap that means u are so bitter you want to keep sending out sons and daughters to the desert to die... to Iran to die... to North Korea to die... to CHINA to die. thats what Mccain wants... payback to Ho chi Min 40 years later... So really you should " If Hillary doesnt win i will vote all our sons and daughters and their sons and daughters to the desert to die " |
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| Sharon |
June 2nd, 2008 11:47 pm ET The Officals are calling unfair calls. The DNC and high power democrats have played the media, in their ploy to fix and election. From Dean and Pelosi months ago, Going to the media, Stating the race needs to come to and end. To pressuring Super delegates to endorse early. knowing the media would run with it. Which would influence voter turn out and votes. Which was unfair to the candidates, the voters and the country. Proves the DNC and Pelosi and Dean, would step as low as they could go, do anything they could to get who they wanted in. Obvious and plain for all to see. Which makes it Scary, for them to have the power in the country if their candidate ever makes it in November. When the majority of the Democratic voters, do not want Pelosi and deans candidate, because he in not fit to be president. The race is not over, and the convention is not here yet. |
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| GoldCanyonGal |
June 2nd, 2008 11:51 pm ET Hillary will make up her own mind, in her own time. As for me, I just re-registered 'unaffiliated' today...no longer a Democrat for the first time in 40 years. I'm through reading all the disparging comments on these blogs and putting up with the sexist agenda from the media and DNC. I'm done. |
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| Peggy - Tx |
June 2nd, 2008 11:52 pm ET The Democratic party is better off without you whiny Hillary Clinton supporters who are so naive that you really believe Hillary won the “popular” vote – an accurate statement only if add in this and ignore that … If you whiny Hillary Clinton supporters are not capable of discerning truth from falsity or worst, simply don’t care, then please vote for McCain. Don’t just vote against your core values and best interest, I hope to see you actively supporting him with your dollars and hanging out with the many other easily deluded losers you will find in the increasingly shrinking Republican party. |
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| jt |
June 2nd, 2008 11:54 pm ET Hillary should run as independent. The DNC did a Libberman job on Hillary. |
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| Rene |
June 2nd, 2008 11:57 pm ET Hillary Clinton should bow out , leave the back stabbing Democratic Party and run as an Independent . |
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| Jennifer |
June 2nd, 2008 11:57 pm ET Mr. Gergen, I loved what you said. I am perhaps slightly more skeptical, however. I don't think Obama owes a position to Clinton. Do Edwards, Dodd, Biden and Richardson feel he owes them? Hillary knew months ago, months, that she would not have the delegates to win and she continued to campaign negatively - it made it twice as hard for people to take a serious look at who would be the eventual nominee. She did a hell of a job dividing the party. I hope at some point she takes some responsibility for her total lack of character. Obama weathered everything she threw at him so gracefully. If he were to chose her as VP not only would I be shocked but I'd be very disillusioned by his choice. What is remarkable about the Clintons is there blatant opportunism. It's actually a fascinating lesson in politics if you look beyond the "hype" and understand how self-centered they are and how motivated they are by their ambitions. I'll stop here. |
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| MG |
June 2nd, 2008 11:59 pm ET I have followed this primary very closely as I have always done during my voting years. I am one of the people that feel the media has dictated the winner. David you probably have been partly neutral but not completely. I just got in from work at 11pm EST. One of those people whose household makes slightly under $50,000 yr. So I am sure the polls are saying oh that is why this person is a Hillary supporter!!! You are just put in a box without having any reason for being a supporter. You either are a woman or you make under $50,000. But as I turned on CNN to get an uodate on news. I heard you talking about how Obama needs more to at least consider her as VP. You made so much sense esp saying that after the past 6 weeks it has become more important. I am a democrat but in the general election I have not always voted party lines. So i will be continuing to follow the general election just as closely. If she is his VP that would be enough for me to vote democrat. |
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| Jerry |
June 3rd, 2008 12:00 am ET If You put Hillary on that ticket You will have trouble! What's worse than a Clinton in your face, 2 Clintons behind your back |
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| onu |
June 3rd, 2008 12:08 am ET It surely suprise me how some Clinton supporters think. Those angry supporter that said they are not going to vote for Obama during general election, should use their brain. You are not voting for Obama, you are voting for a change of Bush, a change of these high foreclosure that are pushing so many american to homeless, a change of this high unemployments, high gas price that have affected both poor and middle class american, a change to stop the that was not suppose to be authorize in the first place. |
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| madeleine |
June 3rd, 2008 12:09 am ET hillary supporters..let us all go to mccain. obama is undefined. we will guessing too much for the country. |
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| crystal |
June 3rd, 2008 12:11 am ET What happened to the Larry Sinclair Trial. How did the OB camp keep that one quiet. personally I believe the guy. |
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| Andy1 |
June 3rd, 2008 12:11 am ET All the talk about Hillary quitting is astounding in a country that is known for its focus on winning, on competition, on perseverence. The way many talk about the party needing to heal, likely by Obama's melodious words, seems cult-like, as if the public can be so quickly and easily manipulated in a democracy. It seems Obama has taken the book The Secret to heart and believes whatever he wants he can achieve if he believes it hard enough – with a little help from deliberately disregarded signatures and candidates when running for the Senate and from old style politics and back room dealings when necessary. So much for change. Utopic thinking by the public and Obama, perhaps, is nice, but awareness of psychopathic behaviour is necessary, if only to fend off evil when it presents itself, when wars are necessary, for instance. Many leaders are psychopaths who seduce others with their charm. Who runs for office without much experience? Why does a person come to believe they should run the military, the country, be the man in charge? What kind of thinking is that? Is he unaware of the power elite's influence over him, or does he think once in charge he can sway them or does he see himself as kind of an all aware messiah? What gives him the ability to run the country, really? If he doesn't have a resume that would demand attention, then what on earth is he doing trying to become president? It is mind boggling how America goes about electing leaders – just the primary/caucus/delegate/superdelegate system is convoluted, nevermind the mindset of those who vote just because they see a candidate who wows them, not because of ideas or policies, more because they are part of a moment. Hopefully, it will work out and perhaps Obama, if he wins, can bring the whole world together – or is that megolomaniac thinking from a rather untested politician? Something needs to happen to change the world, but his thinking is rather like an abused wife who loves her husband even though he beats her and the police say to stay away, a wife who keeps going back for more because she sees what can be, who the person really can be, even if he isn't. Does Obama have the ability to see actual evil and deal with it or does he think that he can draw all in, so stand in his own power that no one will be able to resist him in the end all while they have plans of their own? Who does Barack Obama really think he is . . . really? |
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| madeleine |
June 3rd, 2008 12:12 am ET Hillary supporters, if she is not the nominee, then...McCain is the way to go. Obama is undefined. come november, what other surprise will he give us. btw, he just dumped his church for expediency and political reason. amen.!!! |
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| Mer |
June 3rd, 2008 12:13 am ET Mr. Gergen, |
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| sandra |
June 3rd, 2008 12:14 am ET If Hillary in the ticket of vp and she will destroy Obama because the clinton were not doing a good job in the white house. Billy was totally had the intern affair and lied about the sex incident. Wow! The Obama camp was so nice to let her wins the reminding contacts. He did not campaign there a lot of time |
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| M.C. |
June 3rd, 2008 12:17 am ET Florida and Michigan will not forget in November. The only way the Democrats can win, is for Hillary to be the nominee, and MAYBE, Obama V.P. Better yet, he should defer to Hillary, and encourage his supporters to unite behind Hillary. His supporters will not go Republican in Nov., millions of Hillary's supporters will. |
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| Gloria |
June 3rd, 2008 12:22 am ET I hope and pray that Obama does not choose Hillary and Bill (Yes, Hillary and Bill!!!!) as his running mates. They have done more than enough damage already in their efforts to discredit him and have given McCain a lot of unjustified ammunition to use in his attacks on Obama. And how do the Clintons explain to McCain and voters in general that they are willing to be co-vice presidents in a general election campaign of someone whom they feel is not fit for the job? Obama is what our country needs at this time in our history. I am sure there are other VP possibilities he can choose from who will do him well as he continues his journey toward becoming our next president. And there is always room for both the Clintons to serve in the Obama presidency. If they are true to their words, now it is time for the Clintons to work as hard as they can to encourage people to vote for Obama in the general election. Time will tell if they will be gracious and humble enough to do so. |
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| Pat |
June 3rd, 2008 12:23 am ET I think that Hillary should take option 3. I was for Clinton in the begining and now I am for Obama. I just cannot understand why some of Clinton's people hate soooo much. I read an article today that said that if you figure out who has the popular vote, in 4 different scenarios, Clinton only came out ahead in one. She does the math to suit her. I watched the DNC, one of Hillary's supporter on the Committee actually said (i am not quoting) when she was reminded that it was the same committee that stripped FL and MI of their votes; that unfortunately she does not have a crystal ball so did not know at the time how important these votes would be. Which, when you break it down. Did not think these votes were important at the time as we all assumed that Hillary would be the winner after super tuesday. But now these votes are important! At the end of the voting when Clinton's supporters in the stand where being rude and interrupting people that were speaking. I was embarressed for Clinton. That her people could be so mean spirited and vulgar. One lady on the committee was speaking (a Clinton supporter) and a Clinton supporter in the stand called her "a Pig with Lipstick". If I had been that delegate I would have switched to Obama emmidiately!!! The DNC did the best they can. It is called a compromise. As for Obama getting votes even though he wasn't on the ballot. He was originally, so was everyone else. But, because they were all told that the primary would not count; they all (except Clinton) removed their name from the ballot. MI (Clinton & Obama supporters) did they best they could to come up with what they thought was fair. Please!!! People!!! Quite acting like my 2 year old granddaughter when she doesn't get her way. |
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| Kevin |
June 3rd, 2008 12:23 am ET This is so sad,it really makes our political system look so bad. Why didn't she just throw the towel in when it was so apparent that she wasn't going to win this thing. So many people have lost so much interest in the election and it is so sad to see this kind of thing happen. |
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| Jeff |
June 3rd, 2008 12:24 am ET It's illuminating to read the various comments posted by several unenlightened and uneducated people in this message thread. As an independent voter that usually supports conservatve Republicans, I was actually compelled to attend a Barack Obama rally in Indiana. He is a super star that deserves strong consideration by all potential voters. We need a leader that paints a positive vision of change. Yes, a change agent is needed to lead our country. Strong leaders surround themselves with smart people that make informed decisions. Senator Clinton is also a great leader, but she has become very wealthly in the process of being a "public servant." Has she served the country, or has the country served her? That is the ultimate question that needs to be asked. She just fails to pass the integrity test in my opinion. McCain, Clinton or Obama will need to change how things are accomplished in Washington. As the saying goes, you don't change Washington, Washington changes you. Republicans win because they register and vote. The best outcome of the prolonged Democratic primary is the fact that so many Americans have become interested in the political process. The Super Bowl will not take place until November. Let's see if the energy can hold out until then. |
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| Andy in Santo Domingo |
June 3rd, 2008 12:30 am ET David, he's not going to pop "the question" on VP with Hillary. Maybe a Supreme Court nominee or Attorney General if Edwards doesn't want it. Michigan Governor Jennifer M. Granholm would be a great Clinton surrogate. Edwards is young enough that 8 years of dancing the two-step with Obama would give hime either the biggest platform he's ever had for 8 years or a mandate for the Presidency; either wouldn't be bad. Robert Wexler's eloquence and passion before the DNC, plus his pro vet, pro Isreal, pro healthcare stances are a perfect antidote to Joe Lieberman and a possible lock on Florida (and would give reassurance to MI). |
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| Brent |
June 3rd, 2008 12:34 am ET God I hope that Obama does not award Hillary with the vp slot for her selfish actions in attempting to unethically change the rules of the contest when it became apparrent that the established rules would not work to her benefit and for weekening the democratic party's chances this fall by creating a deep division within the party's ranks. |
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| Wisconsin woman |
June 3rd, 2008 12:37 am ET First, It has been stated here by people from both MI and FL that they were aware of their votes not being counted so they didn't vote. The vote that did occur may not properly represent the desire of each state. The Florida and Michigan primaries were moved ahead due to the state legislatures, not the National party. If you are angry about the results of this compromise, take it out on the state pols who did this. For those who would vote for Hillary but not Barack, why do you want to do that? John McCain has embraced the Bush legacy, including War and Tax cuts for the wealthy. The fact is that the Obama campaign saw a weakness in the Clinton strategy of ignoring caucus states, and exploited it and made a race of it. National polls of who will win, or is leading this early in the presidential campaign are not reliable. It is my belief that the Republicans wanted to run against Hillary because there still is a lot of dirt/scandal material to be used; and if there were much dirt/scandal about Barack Obama the Clintons would have found it and aired it by now. |
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| Will, Tennessee |
June 3rd, 2008 12:40 am ET Everyone seems to forget that Hillary got votes because Rush Limbaugh encouraged Republicans to change parties and vote for Hillary. Hillary would have been gone long ago. Hillary keeps bringing up the electoral votes which most of them are not even legitimate due to Republicans rigging the votes for Hillary. It's the delegates that count anyway! The people of Michigan and Florida should be happy that the DNC voted to seat 1/2 the delegates. After all they, could have had zero representation. Rules are RULES........ If we set a precedent that you can break the rules and be rewarded for it, then our youth have a bad example to follow. |
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| william |
June 3rd, 2008 12:40 am ET These hardnosed democratic pretenders are Republicans who will make believe they are going to vote McCain. They are poor representations of what Repubs used to rely on as Christian conservatives. They are people first and political puppets second.. I don't trust anyone when they tell me they are Repubs. I just walk away from them. From Watergate to Election 2004, I have watched Repubs with amazement. Don't trust a one of them.Don't even know what they represent as Repubs. Conservatism is not bashing people who disagree with them, and certainly not Christian. |
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| Jill in Texas |
June 3rd, 2008 12:43 am ET I am a Hillary supporter and have been for years. I think she is definitely the best qualified of the three to be president. I'm beginning to believe though that her qualifications are not as important as Obama's hold on the media. Does the mob control the media? This may seem a stupid question but for some reason that I just can't fathom the media has rejected what could have been a truly wonderful event in history ( electing an intelligent and honest woman to the Presidency) and chosen to do everything in its power to help a man people don't feel comfortable with. Where is he coming from? What about the indicted man who supposedly help him get his house? I just don't feel comfortable voting for someone whom I just don't know. |
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| Oregon |
June 3rd, 2008 12:44 am ET I disagree that Hillary Clinton did better near the end. Instead, what happened was Obama began to sag due to unsavory behavior of his ex-pastor Jeremiah Wright. But whatever Obama's problems, Clinton leaves this primary season with ratings just as negative as ever. Obama ultimately has a winning way with people. The more accustomed Americans become to him, the more they'll like him. But very few Americans trust Hillary Clinton. |
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| nancy |
June 3rd, 2008 12:45 am ET i think all people need to see this if you type in communist obama you will find out why he is against the united state. and what he want for us that is why rev wright is so against the united state.if we know what is good for us. you will think again about voteing for him he want us like cuba !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! nancy |
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| Lisa |
June 3rd, 2008 12:48 am ET Her arguments have not held water. Obama wasn't even on the ballot,but she wanted all the delegates 'due' her. She has been the cause of the Dems split. She twists and manipulates everything to her favor. This is politics as usual and we don't need that in a President OR a Vice President. |
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| Andy voting expat in Dom Rep |
June 3rd, 2008 12:50 am ET After more typical Hillary's assasination comment and McCain's Iraq comments, who really has had the rougher road to the nomination? Obama. Just imagine what his daily Secret Service briefing must be like with all you loonatics out there. Obama is having his very real Profile of Courage moment that is deeper than anything any modern American politician has ever had to put up with. So those questioning Obama's patriotism or strength of character should shut up – this man is more patriotically American than all of us combined and we should stand behind him and be proud. |
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| Geoff Kelly |
June 3rd, 2008 12:57 am ET As an Australian keenly observing the Democratic primaries, I think Dale 18 hits the nail on the head. How anyone with principle could vote for John McCain because their candidate lost amazes me. Whether it is rascism or misguided feminism or both matters not. It is sad to think that people as shallow as these sentiments disclose will be voting to elect the leader of the most powerful country on earth. |
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| Rob (White Anglophone Male - 45, Blue Collar OHIO) |
June 3rd, 2008 1:03 am ET Hillary – it is about time for you to wake up and listen to the music. Na Na Na Na, Na Na Na Na, hey hey – GOOD BYE!!!!! Obama for President |
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| NanD, Las Vegas |
June 3rd, 2008 1:08 am ET The popular vote is not how we choose our Democratic nominee. It's the delegates. That said, Hillary cannot honestly claim to be ahead in the popular vote. If you go to DailyKos, they have a really clear analysis which includes the caucus voters (we cannot disenfranchise those voters either, Clinton!) – it shows very clearly that Obama has the lead in the popular vote. In addition, it was Clinton pushing for MI/FL votes to count that was followed through, with the appropriate penalty, by the DNC. I find it unreasonable, then, for the Clinton campaign to claim that 4 superdelegates were 'stolen' from them...aside from the 30,000 write-in ballots being counted (Clinton DID want all votes to count, correct?), exit polling data and actual votes were considered. That is how the Michigan Democratic Party arrived at their solution. So, to come back after these votes were all considered, and to state that delegates were stolen, seriously makes NO sense. Did you want the votes to count or not? Ironically, as the FL/MI delegates situation was being resolved, Clinton surrogates were attempting to disenfranchise Collin County delegates for a similar situation...except that in Collin County's case, the majority of the delegates were for Obama. |
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| Morrisville Ny |
June 3rd, 2008 1:08 am ET This is ridiculous. We have all these news agencies telling us what to think, report the news and let us think what we want. The United States is the most literate nation of all time. Report the news and let the american people determine what they think. It is insulating that the media tries to tell us what to think. The race is over, it has been over for months. The media makes me so angry, just so they can keep jobs. What is going on in Iraq? What is going on in Afghanistan? You are spending 90% of your news coverage on this and it is sick. There are soo many more news stories that can be addressed. What about Mynamar? What about China earthquake? What about individual state rights? Stop with all the analysis and trying to tell what people to think, stick to reporting the news. |
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| Susan |
June 3rd, 2008 1:09 am ET Regarding option 3... Does Hillary have a future with the Democratic Party? In fact, the stronger question might be: did she ever really have a past?? From my perspective, many Democrats sought to push Hillary out long before the first primary. After an exhaustive effort on my part to understand why, I came up with only one reason.. sexism, sexism that existed before Hillary’s political career and sexism that will exist long after. Don’t think it matters what Hillary does. Whether option 1, 2 or 3, Hillary will long be seen as an undeserving audacious she-devil because that’s what any woman seeking a post of power is seen as. For proof just think back to the countless comments made about Hillary on CNN. For those who are in denial about this issue and who can’t quite embrace the concept of sexism and its insidious nature, ask yourself one question.. how comfortable would be denying the existence of racism? |
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| Xenos Khan |
June 3rd, 2008 1:13 am ET Barack Obama leads in pledged delegates, super delegates, states won AND in popular votes. There is no controversy here. Only by some distorted math can Hillary Clinton claim being ahead in popular votes: by counting Florida (where Obama did not campaign) and Michigan ( where Obama did not have his name on the ballot) and excluding caucus states. And this AFTER having agreed not to campaign AND AFTER having accepted the fact that the votes would not be counted. Hillary Clinton is putting a spin on the truth so people will vote for her. It is her card and she is playing it. It is her right to do so and people must respect that right. But let's not lose sight of the truth. Finally, Clintons supporters who are bitter and threaten to vote for McCain are obviously guided by emotions, Even by Hillary's admission, Obama would be a better choice for America than John McCain. This begs the question: What are you so afraid of by trusting Obama? His policies are quite similar to Clintons. He is from the same party. She might even be on the ticket come August. Clinton supporters might as well just say it: people who threaten to go to McCain will do so because of the color of his skin. Race, as well as sexism , is a factor in this campaign. |
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| Mike |
June 3rd, 2008 1:14 am ET C'mon guys, CNN has been pushing Clinton in a very subtle way since the start of the primaries, because this Republican station knows that she wouldn't stand a chance against McCain. |
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| Bobby braswell |
June 3rd, 2008 1:14 am ET I am really blown away about how everyone seems to be jumping on the pity Hillary bandwagon. All of sudden what she has done just recently is more impressive than what Obama has accomplished during this historic battle. Yes she has won, I must admit impressively, some of the recent battles. How soon we forget about the Obama lop-sided victories earlier in the process. What about the eleven victories in a row. Those victories probably won him the nomination. But the most important thing that I think everyone seems to be forgetting is that this man came out of no where to beat the most prolific political brand in the Cilntons. Yes the Clinton machine. He was out there with no name, campaigning on his own introducing himself to this country and to the world. Hillary on the other hand, had her husband the former President of the United States, her daughter, and the the machine out there everyday campaigning on her behalf. It was literally three to one on the campaign trail during this process. Yet Obama still prevailed, and pulled it off. I heard it described tonight by several news outlets that Obama was limping across the finish line as if he is damaged goods. I submit that though he may be limping across that line, we should all be gathered there to meet and greet him with the applause and ovation he deserves for having the moxy to finish the fight. The underdog who no one ever gave a chance. This is a true American story one in which we should all be proud of. |
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| Rafael Gacel |
June 3rd, 2008 1:21 am ET I am an Obama supporter, but I think that I would be disappointed if he did not offer and choose her for V.P. – she earned it. By the way, next time pick another football team. Let me remind you that the undefeated 18 and Doh cheating Patriots won the first half 7 to 3, lost the second half 7 to 14, and lost the superbowl 17 to 14 to the 14 and 6 New York Giants. |
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| Cindy |
June 3rd, 2008 1:22 am ET Mr. Gergen, Even with Hillary on the ticket can that make up for all the character discoveries of Obama, eg., Wright, Pfleger, bitter comment, and Michelle Obama's negative comments. How well do you know him? I'm sorry but I need to get to know my friends before I can trust them and as far as Obama for President; well, I don't know him! |
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| kc |
June 3rd, 2008 1:25 am ET what about Hillary for president go independent.AAAnd run for the white house |
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| Gary Chandler in Canada |
June 3rd, 2008 1:29 am ET @Emma and others. Clinton does NOT have more votes; a lead in the Popular Vote is a False Reflection. To claim the PV lead she uses her illegal votes in MI and adds 0 for Obama. She also subtracts 4 States Obama won. On top of that, nobody has enfranchised the 'missing' 17% in FLA either. (49.8% – Clinton, 33% – Obama, 17% – mostly Edwards who now support Obama.) |
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| Anteneh |
June 3rd, 2008 1:30 am ET Even though I am African-American, I support Obama through process of elimination. McCain will not do anything for the economy and screw up the situation in the Middle East (remember that whole Iran-Al Qaeda schtik). Clinton is all right but she is just a follower ("gas tax holiday") and the most hated person by the Republican Core. She would single-handedly unite the Republican party. So, this leaves Obama who gives a promise of hope and change in the future. Although sometimes vague, Obama is just trying to soak in all possible situations and then come up with an agenda in office (why commit to a plan when you don't know how the economy will turn in a couple weeks?). Clinton and some of her supporters at this point should just really sit down and be quiet because they lost the nomination fair and square (according to the rules). So stop using Roveian mathematics get with the program. Obama has won the nomination and will win in the general election since Clinton supporters will have examined McCain's record in Congress. |
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| Nick |
June 3rd, 2008 1:32 am ET @kay I think it's pretty impressive that FL and MI got half the votes, after all the honorable Sen. Clinton said while she was still the frontrunner that "the votes don't count" at all! I can understand that FL and MI voters are upset about this, but the same happened with the FL GOP, as far as I remember. So, let's put this behind us and make sure, McSame does not get into office. Let's look to the future and America will love you for it, FL and MI. God bless! |
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| Dan in California |
June 3rd, 2008 1:34 am ET I really appreciate David Gergen's kindly wisdom. I am doubtful that it would be wise for Obama to take Clinton as Vice President. It would undermine his goal of fundamental change in Washington. However if she wants the position he will have a hard time saying no. He really needs her support. Also, she would be a natural in the traditional vice-presidential “attack dog” role. |
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| Morrisville Ny |
June 3rd, 2008 1:36 am ET I watched the whole DNC convention, and I found it interesting that the only people violent and loud were the Clinton supportors. If I remember correctly one person kept going on and on, and then you hear here say something like "No you shut up". That is the type of inarticulate person I want leading this country. And then the threat from one of her supporters on the DNC, I think from Michigan throws out a threat? Come on. The whole thing was a show, and that was obvious when one of them said "Well it is noon, and I finally get a chance to talk" IT wasn't even noon it was about 15 minutes before noon and the Obama spokesperson didn't get to say anything. I am normally a republican and I think Barrack is a fresh face on politics. The Clintons are sketchy, McCain is old, it is time to let go baby boomers and let the a new generation take over. |
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| Lauren |
June 3rd, 2008 1:37 am ET Yes be magnanimous but please keep her off the ticket. |
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| Davind King |
June 3rd, 2008 1:40 am ET I feel Obama should takes his chances without Hillary. She is not sincere about her support of him nor the Democratic party. Nothing Hillary does is going to change the minds of some (I said some) of her lunatic supporters. Those folks would never vote for, nor back Barack anyways. To hell with them. It's ime for a change! Let's start that without Hillary! |
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| Louis |
June 3rd, 2008 1:41 am ET David, I agree with almost everything you mentioned above with the exception of one important part – Obama offering Clinton the Vice Presidency. Just as the supporters on both sides agree that it would be disrespectful to push Clinton out of the race, I believe that it would be just as disrespectful for anyone (the media, Clinton supporters, congressional leaders) to force Clinton onto the ticket. Perhaps the most important part of choosing a running mate is someone that you can actually trust and are friendly with because both people will need to govern the country effectively. Gore suffered a lot inside the Clinton White House in the 90's in large part to the competitiveness between Al and Hillary. When Gore finally had a shot at the apple when he ran for the White House in 2000, Bill ran off to go campaign for Hillary instead and Democrats lost the White House. If Hillary were forced onto the ticket, there's no telling how high chaos will escalate between the two of them because one of them may make decisions based on the greater good for the country and the other may be using political posturing to prepare for the next best job. Obama might have the last word on these potential issues but you have to ask yourself – Why go through all that headache for the next four years? Now if he wants Hillary, thats fine, more power to him. BUT IT SHOULD BE HIS CHOICE AND NO ONE ELSE'S. |
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| hhv94 |
June 3rd, 2008 1:43 am ET I'm guessing she will bow out gracefully to keep her career intact. She'd be a fool to take this past the last primaries, and even worse if she dragged this out with the DNC commettie over Florida and Michigan. Despite some Obama and Clinton supporters comments thus far, its done and it is what it is. In a way I feel sorry for some of you who say you would not vote just becuase the candidate you think should win did not. Both of them belive in the same thing and the only real difference is the level of experience. I personaly dont want a McCain presidency and see more soldiers going back to Iraq and die for 4 more years. Either Clinton or Obama are fine in my view as long as they can get the job done, since they are both representing the same democratic views. If your mad becuase you prefer one over the other and are letting your anger cloud your judgement...I feel sorry for you. |
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| Danny from San Diego |
June 3rd, 2008 1:43 am ET Couple of things: 2. The rules were established before the game started. So, Just because you're pro Hillary, doesn't mean that it's ok to break the rules to benefit her. Say Obama says, "No, we started the game with these rules and we're going to finish it with the same rules." How many delegates would've Hillary gotten? ZERO. 3. I had great appreciation for the Clintons and I didn't know a lot about Hillary until, but I didn't like what I saw: too much greed. 4. If because Hillary is not the nominee you're voting for McCain, that explains why America is where it is now. I don't care who's the nominee as long as it's a Democrat count me in. |
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| Tim |
June 3rd, 2008 1:58 am ET To be a Hillary supporter and not vote for Obama in the fall, or vice-versa, would show a big misunderstanding of the choices in front of you. They differ very little, unless you actually give weight to what church they belong to or another of the irrelevant sidetracking issues. |
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| Sharon in Oakland, CA |
June 3rd, 2008 2:00 am ET Most of these comments are upsetting but not surprising. I can't help but think that the only reason why these people are saying they will vote for McCain, is because they just don't want to vote for a man that law of this land says Senator Obama is black although his mother was white (long sentence I hope it makes sense). I am 52 years old and I have voted ever since I was 18. Althoug I think the right to vote is so important, I have never really been engaged in the process before this primary cycle. This primary cycle allowed me an opportunity to vote for a black man with the funny name who was born to a white woman from Kanas. I voted for Senator Obama because he proved to me that he is qualified to be commander in chief. I did not vote for Senator Obama beause he is black (like me). I didn't not vote for Rev Jackson or Rev Al Sharpton. What the haters need to do is look at the facts. Senator Obama is not perfect nor did he run a perfect campagin, he fought a good fight and for the most part he played fair. Senator Clinton has lost this race (for many reasons). Senator Clinton should take responsilbilty for the good, bad and the UGLY. When she does that I would like to hope that her suporters and the people who voted for her will accept Senator Clinton's responsilbility. I have always had to vote for the white candidate because that was the only choice. But I always voted for the people who I thought was the best candidate. PEOPLE GET REAL...WE ARE ALL HAVING A HARD TIME PAYING FOR GAS, BUYING FOOD, GETTING GOOD HEALTH CARE, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, ETC. |
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| steven f |
June 3rd, 2008 4:12 am ET Gergen always seems to ht the right chord in his analysis. My question is option three as he puts it: Hillary's fulsome endorsement of Obama. If it is false everyone will know. But our acceptance is less important than those who would only vote for Hillary at this point. She must, in no uncertain terms, bring them back. If Obama loses it will be part o Hillary's legacy, she will be the Ralph Nader of 2008. |
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| Randall |
June 3rd, 2008 4:26 am ET Their is one thing you are all forgeting. Clinton did not follow the rules of the DNC and campaigned in both states. She should be stripped of her delegates from both states fot that reason. How can the DNC reward her for breaking their rules. I am an Independent in Fl and the only thing I am sure of is i would let Clinton run my vacuum much less MY COUNTRY!!! |
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| ernie, manila |
June 3rd, 2008 4:49 am ET What does the U.S. want ? More of the same kind of president ? A BITTER president ? Or a BETTER president ? The choice is very simple and easy ! |
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| Peter, Europe |
June 3rd, 2008 5:00 am ET There are some peole complaining they will vote republicans because Democrats gave Fl only a half vote. But did the repubilcans give Floridians a full vote? as far as the whole thing looks like, the republicans decided that the primary held earlier, then they stripped the results to half too! I think its time the american people vote on the issue and take some responsibilities because what happens in America affects the whole world, if the american economy breaks we all feel it, if america decides to go to war we all feel it. |
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| Malcolm MacLeod, MD |
June 3rd, 2008 5:15 am ET Reading the comments from so many "avid Hillary supporters", I wonder how many of these people |
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| jane |
June 3rd, 2008 5:17 am ET The press was a little late catching on to the real Obama. If Obama continues to falter, as he has since the Ohio primary, can Hillary, even if she has already conceded, rejoin the race? I would feel much better if she could, simply because I don't think Obama can beat McCain. |
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| Sandee Portland, Or |
June 3rd, 2008 5:21 am ET In response to JC from LA, what background does Hillary have in foreign policy other than going to tea with the other wives; nor did she serve in the Military. As far as experience, I would say that her and Obama are very close; after all they are both Junior Senators and at least he served at the State level before the national level. You can't say that about Hillary..and about questionable association, how about all the criminals Bill pardoned before he left the White House. At least Obama isn't being sued for campaign finance fraud (says a lot about her being trustworthy). As for the Reverend Wright thing, Obama left the church for several reasons. I'm sure one of the was political but he also left because everyone in the parish was under such extreme scrutiny. I would like an answer from you regarding this. |
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| Shirley Dougher |
June 3rd, 2008 5:50 am ET Am I the only one who sees there is something wrong here? Here we have a man who has come out of no where. How many people even knew his name, or what his claim to fame is? Now we have Kennedy who messed his chances up to run this country, and there he is, yep backing this stranger to be president. What is going on is what I want to know. Clinton can get this country back to some form of understanding, but she is being pushed out for Obama. I say how stupid are we? I was not one who didn't vote for Bush, and I was too smart to see Bush in for his second time, but low and behold there were some that did. Bush was elected, but we had Gore who was the man everyone wanted. The democratic team was so mad that Bush got in when they felt the popular vote was for Gore. Help me out here, do we not have the same thing going on no? So why are we going all out for Obama? OK, they say we will go with Obama if we wanted Clinton, Oh duh, NOT ME. I knew we had some bad people making money on all us poor people, but I really can't believe this is going on. Oh, all this mess with gas, we just found a new reserve, no one knows where it came from, oh duh how nice. One last thing, we are not alone and I do believe the government knows that. E.T.'s are out there. The government is doing us all a very bad in Justice! Nothing more to say except I feel so bad for the people here who really don't know any better. What ever happened to, WE THE PEOPLE? |
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| Peter Damoah-Afari |
June 3rd, 2008 6:05 am ET Why would people want to waste our times with such useless articles? |
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| Alex |
June 3rd, 2008 6:24 am ET I would want Barack to seal the nomination once and for all. this way we all be witness to how he will face defeat in November! The Dems are really destined to fail, they should have chosen Hillary as she can beat McCain. When will we learn! |
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| Bill Jay |
June 3rd, 2008 6:44 am ET Hillary for President........................... |
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| Anthony |
June 3rd, 2008 7:00 am ET I always find your wisdom Mr. Gergen to be of superior insight. It's true that after Hillary went negative (you could say that started around Ohio) she began to rise in some conservative circles and was also greatly help by Republicans who voted for her whenever they were allowed to. I think despite what some people think Obama is still the choice of Democrats as he is cosistently ahead vs. Clinton in the polls. Your latest poll of polls puts him in fact at 52%-41%. I for one still think Obama is a once-in-a-lifetime leader and will show to be a great President. In the second half it's also important to mention that he did however win crucial states he needed to win like North Carolina and Oregon to name some recent ones. |
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| Simone |
June 3rd, 2008 7:04 am ET Unfortunately, by the DNC bending the rules they have given Clinton's more argument for winning the nomination. This helps her hostile supporters, but no one else. I am afraid this nomination is turning into another Civil War. By allowing Clinton's to do and say what they want to get the nomination is now back firing on the American people. If the Clinton's leave gracefully, I will be flabergasted. |
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| Diane |
June 3rd, 2008 7:28 am ET Emma, You bitter old (or young) biddy. Democrats are smart. Very smart. Hillary wasn't playing football, but cards. She held most of the aces and lots of trump cards. However, she let her smarter opponent, Obama , psyche her out, and she started throwing away her hand. Then she really panicked and let the former President talk her into cheating. She was pulling race and gender cards from under her sleeve. All she had to do was simply campaign and stick to those subjects that mattered. She had the females' gift of gab, which no man can beat. People were listening to her, even if they did not understand what she was saying, like you. But when she started playing unfair, and became the squeaky wheel, people took a closer look at her resume and saw all of her flaws, bad experiences, and poor decisions, which she had flaunted to the masses as accomplishments. She had presented the American public with an embellished resume for the job. Then Hillary gave the game away, using poor strategies, like trying to appeal to racist. That's always a losing strategy. Putting down her very able democratic opponent, riding the Republican's bus on Wright, and other negatives was also unwise. Prior to that, she had it made. At one point, Americans did not really care who won, so the dream ticket would have been great no matter who headed it. Maybe I should determine if you are an adult first, but if you are a democrat, act like one. The majority of us, when we are not panicked, are ethical, diplomatic, (brilliant) and broadminded. In close races like this, we always support our nominees, even if it is not the nominee of first choice. As I told Matt yesterday, don't cut off your nose to spite your face. Four more years of being bushwhacked is really ugly. Now you remember the constitution, Miss America. |
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| KJ |
June 3rd, 2008 7:32 am ET Joe, I couldn't have said it better myself. Thank you. I too have been wondering for months why the American people cannot see that Sen. Clinton will say and/or do anything to become the nominee....includng her husband the ex President. My family is from Sicily and we've been watching the Primaries and each candidate very carefully and have reached a conclusion that the Clinton's are not very truthful people, and are the typical Washington insiders...say ole thing. Yes, Sen. O'Bama won Texas after all of the counting was done, but yet Sen. Clinton and her staff continue to say she won. Why can't CNN just say that he won instead of displaying the state as a split for each candidate? We think that Sen. O'Bama should select Speaker Pelosi as his VP, but we also know that will not happen because of political reasons and I believe she does not want to be the VP. I can vote this year and will be voting for Sen. O'Bama because of what President Bush and VP Cheney have done to this wonderful country. |
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| James |
June 3rd, 2008 7:33 am ET When this contest began i would have been happy to see Clinton as the VP but not now. In my eyes, she has proven herself to be just another lieing politician. She will not fit with Obamas new approach to politics. She is part of the old system that desperately needs to be retired. Plus, she has an insane look in her eyes. I don't think the woman is all there. She is obviously very self serving. We don't need that sort of a thing in the White House any longer. |
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| Oriyomi Agbabiaka |
June 3rd, 2008 7:34 am ET I am amazed at you Americans (I'm a Nigerian), after going through the disastruous Bush years, you are still considering Obama! |
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| Albert Ft lauderdale |
June 3rd, 2008 7:49 am ET Hillary has done a great job and it would be a mistake to leave her aside of this constest for the nominee or for the elections in November. The Democratic party needs to win this coming elections and Hillary is a main stone for it. Nothing against Sen. Obama; but the party will make a HUGE mistake leaving Hillary behind. Remember, it is not just Hillary; but all her supporters behind. I hope |
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| Tom |
June 3rd, 2008 7:51 am ET Didn't she actually win FL and MI in the first half? If so Obama won the second half... |
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| Steven Gall |
June 3rd, 2008 7:52 am ET As much as I disagree with your assertion that Clinton earned a place on the ticket, there is some benefit to discussion in that quarter. Even those of us that do not like the tactics she has employed in this race acknowledge her capacities, especially when it comes to policy and connections within the democratic power grid. I believe that Obama would be well served by having Clinton play a role in his cabinet rather than as VP. Clinton has consistently show her abilities in this direction and would have more power in decision making and her ability to set the agenda if allowed to do so. But, as this is all speculation, we will wait and see what develops and hope that both candidates weigh not only their futures, but also the strengths they bring to the table. That, in essence, is what leadership is all about. And as for folks that claim they would cross the party line for such a team up, they do not really want a united party any how. If they did, they would have enough respect to give both Clinton and Obama the benefit of the doubt and trust their judgement as to what is best for the country. Both have an opportunity to show their patriotism as far as I am concerned. |
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| ginger |
June 3rd, 2008 7:52 am ET Hi David, Thanks for pointing out that FACTS about the STATS. If Not for the Rev. Wright episode HRC would have been gone. But then again we'll never really know for sure. The Rev. Wright issue was certainly a mask for some people who had no intention of supporting a black candidate. It is time for the DNC party and this nation to come together and elect Sen. Obama as President. No more drama vote Obama. "People get ready there's a train aw comin you don't need no ticket you just get on board." All the aboard the Obama train. Next stop the White House. "Fired up and ready to go" |
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| Joyce-Houston |
June 3rd, 2008 7:57 am ET Don't forget every candidate has baggage and the media will go through your life with a fine tooth comb. |
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| tom |
June 3rd, 2008 7:58 am ET Too many bridges have been burned, she cannot run for VP. But for uniting the party she should recommend a candidate and Obame should accept him/her. |
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| Watermann |
June 3rd, 2008 7:59 am ET It`s political business as usual. Poker for money and power depending on the answer on only one question. Does Barack Obama have a chance of winning in fall without or with Hillary Clinton. Senior advisors will have to analyse the situation and it will again be a superstory for CNN and other newsrooms. It`s a pity that all the comments on the topics made by a lot of common and sensible people ending " not to give Hillary Clinton the VP spot", don`t matter at all or any more. |
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| Dean, Mason |
June 3rd, 2008 8:06 am ET Forget it. I can't stand all these charges of sexism from the Clinton campaign. And to hear it now from her supporters just angers me. Senator Clinton refuses to accept responsibility for a poorly managed campaign which is a big part of her problem. Then you actually have some of her supporters, truly believing that she some how got cheated out of the nomination. And to suggest that over 17million voters will be disfranchised is the dumbest argument I have ever heard. Especially considering that would be the case regardless of who won the nomination. Lots of people voted for Senator Obama as well. And at least he had the courtesy to run with a modicum of dignity. Sure..go ahead...throw your hands up in the air and threaten to vote for McCain. Then, every time another flag draped coffin comes home from Iraq...and eventually Iran...while large Oil corporations rake in multi billion dollar profits...you can pat yourselves on the back and say "I told you so". If Senator Obama loses in the General...it will be a Self-Clintoned Filled Prohpecy. |
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| JOSH |
June 3rd, 2008 8:10 am ET go obama/clinton |
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| Gail |
June 3rd, 2008 8:37 am ET Doesn't anybody get the big picture here??? Obama has "Dr. Phil'd Hillary. Like Dr Phil finesses his relationship with his wife, totally letting her appear as the core, the strength, supporting her limp noodle book etc etc-when he is clearly the intellectual, economic and insightful force of the duo–"Do you want to be right or do you want to be happy?" mantra- Obama and his camp have done much the same thing. BRILLIANT strategists. Brilliant. Obama didn't "lose" the second half of this game. He GAVE it to her. Yes, he fought hard in NC and won, and everything tipped toward him. Everyone called the race right then, but when she didn't withdraw. He Dr Phil'ed her from then on. He battled in Ohio and Indiana-but he saw the momentum, he had the lead. But look: all he did in Kentucky, West Virginia, Puerto Rico etc were parachute drops. He started his Western Strategy...No time at all, in those states, while she hustled and covered every inch of acreage, then claimed huge wins. While she she scrambled in South Dakota, he was in MICHIGAN |
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| Mike |
June 3rd, 2008 8:42 am ET Alex, Who would you prefer to be president, it sounds like you just can't handle your own life so you look for someone to blame? Life's rough but get off your ass and do something about it instead of being a lazy do nothing bum that lets his life fall apart. Your problems are your fault my friend |
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| Mel |
June 3rd, 2008 8:51 am ET What is now clear when I read the postings of Senator Hillary Rodham Clintons supporters is that many do not know her political platform on the issues. This is what she and Senator Barack Obama share – strong Democratic positions on healthcare, mortgage crisis, tax cuts, environment, and to some extent a sensible withdrawal of troops from Iraq. For Clinton's supporters, especially women, to say they support Senator McCain tells me they have drank the kool-aid. Senator McCain is anti-choice, anti-stem cell research, against gay marriage, and wants to keep the troops in Iraq indefinitely. How can a Democrat vote for 4 more years of a Bush agenda? Lets hope common sense prevail and Dems don't cut of their noses to spite their faces. |
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| elaine |
June 3rd, 2008 9:09 am ET I am so sick of hearing about Rev. Wright.....I have been a member of my church for 29 years....I show up on Easter and Christmas...how do we know that he even went to church every Sunday. I don't really care about a candidates religion....I want a person in there that has some intelligence to run this country. If you want a religious leader than lets ask the pope or some leading Baptist minister to run for the job. Religion should have nothing to do with polictics... all you folks do seem to cling to your religion. |
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| Rheem |
June 3rd, 2008 9:13 am ET Instead of sticking to the topic, this blog seems to be a meeting place for HRC supporters to cry in their beer. HRC supporters, if you want to whine about how unfair your candidate was treated I am sure there is a local tavern in your community and leave the blogging to those who can remain on topic. |
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| Marc Wise |
June 3rd, 2008 9:20 am ET David Gergen, one more time you have shone the light for all of us to see what remained to be seen. Excellent advise to the contenders. Let's hope they do take it. |
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| Michael |
June 3rd, 2008 9:21 am ET This is my second presidential election cycle I am able to vote in and honestly I am sick and tired of all the bickering going on between supporters of the two campaigns. This year we only have one chance to make sure a third Bush term doesn't happen. Now with both candidates being history making candidates, the first female and the first black, it isn't surprising that there would be many hurt feelings for the candidate who lost the nomination. However I really hope people put it into perspective. Now I know that the nomination isn't technically over, but it does look like Obama's win. As for the first female Democratic nominee it does look like Hillary Clinton has broken enough barriers to make that happen, just not in this year. Whether Hillary runs again in 2012 or 2016 or whether another female runs for the Presidency they will be taken seriously, as they should be, because of what Hillary has accomplished. However the most pressing issue right now is to make sure that the failed domestic policies and the disastrous foreign policies of this George Bush administration are unable to continue. |
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| Alec - Barbados (Caribbean Paradise) |
June 3rd, 2008 9:33 am ET There are precedents, may I add, and valid reasons for a candidate who is well ahead in the primaries (Pres. Clinton, Reagan, to name two) to be beaten in the last few contests. Obama won this fairly and squarely. The rules were broken by Fl and MI and were again broken last Saturday by the DNC rules committee to give Sen. Clinton an advantage, which she didnt deserve ACCORDING TO THE RULES. |
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| mm |
June 3rd, 2008 9:35 am ET Let's move forward not backwards, keep the old angry Clintons completely out of the white house. We don't need anymore of the Bushs' and Clintons' "age and experience". |
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| Chérie, Miami |
June 3rd, 2008 9:49 am ET Senator Clinton and her family has been stabbing Senator Obama until the last minute when it was not even necessary which prove a underlying hostility. If ever she become the VP I am afraid it will turn to a McMellan perpetual criticism. |
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| gerry |
June 3rd, 2008 9:55 am ET I cannot believe David Gergen suggesing Barack should offer her the VP role. David knows all the Clinton baggage and the republicans already have adds exposing it in the can ready to run. If she's the VP McCain wins |
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