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May 15, 2008
The Monster behind the Curtain
Posted: 11:34 AM ET

Editor’s note: Bonnie Erbe is the host of PBS’s weekly news analysis program, To the Contrary with Bonnie Erbe, and syndicated columnist for Scripps Howard News Service. Her blog ‘Racism in the Presidential Race’ appeared on UsNews.com.

Bonnie Erbe
Host, PBS’ “To the Contrary”

Terry McAuliffe, Senator Clinton’s campaign manager was all over the cable news channels last night claiming Sen. Clinton’s 2-1 win in West Virginia is proof she and only she can win the White House for the Democratic party in November—that due to her support from white, working class voters.

But an even more telling point about white, working class voters and how some of them will vote when (and it looks like when, not if) Sen. Barack Obama becomes the Democratic nominee was made in article in yesterday’s Washington Post. The monster lurking behind the curtain in the Democratic presidential race is racism. Up to now, Sen. Obama’s supporters in the extreme left wing of the Democratic party, have tried to ignore its existence. This article is proof, it not only exists, it is unfortunately alive and well, particularly in factory towns:

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71 Comments
71 Comments
Edward Palonek   May 15th, 2008 11:42 am ET

“It’s ugly, but it’s real. It’s been largely ignored by the media as well as Obama supporters up to now. But the fact is there are a lot more American voters who identify with low-income factory workers than there are voters who identify with Harvard Law School graduates.” That is a scary prospect in a way. In the global economy we must compete with better technology and better educated work force. Sure economy is #1, but the bottom line is that the new President will not force people to educate themselves. It is an individual choice to go back to school or take courses. It is through this education that people will find better quality jobs. edward-palonek.com

Cindy   May 15th, 2008 11:49 am ET

Unfortunately racism in America is alive and well and there really isn’t anything that Obama or anyone else can do to stop it. They can campaign all that they want and promise things and say just about everything under the sun and it won’t change these people’s minds.
Racism goes back generations and that will be hard for anyone to overcome.

And I do believe that it will effect the out come of this race which is unfortunate because this race should be about what is best for this country not about someones skin color.

Claudia, Houston, Tx   May 15th, 2008 11:54 am ET

I don’t care about this stupid thing called racism. What I am afraid of is Bush being on foreign soil and turning against Americans. I hope Israel feels uncomfortable with Bush because he will turn on them. Bush is not deservant of American people to address him as Mr. President. I support Israel and it’s independence but not this evil sick ignorant person called George W. Bush.

batguano101   May 15th, 2008 11:57 am ET

I beg to differ:

There is a saying in Spanish- “Sin Verguenza”.

Literally- Without Shame- which applies to utterly worthless people.

Racism and Diebold are not what America needs today.

Phin   May 15th, 2008 12:05 pm ET

My hope for John Edwards……..I hope he suffers the same fate as Mitt,that he falls down and breaks his hair…..

batguano101   May 15th, 2008 12:08 pm ET

I beg to differ:

There is a saying in Spanish- “Sin Verguenza”.

Literally- Without Shame- which applies to utterly worthless people.

Racism and Diebold are not what America needs today.

Terrell   May 15th, 2008 12:17 pm ET

Racism still exists and it will not be going anywhere anytime soon. Sure Hillary won big in West Virginia, but to say that she is the better candidate is to assume that majority of this country is full of uneducated white blue collar workers.

Speaking of uneducated, shouldn’t that be alarming to Hillary supporters. That people with college degrees see through her “Say anything, Do anything policy.”

She said she will continue taking money from lobbyist and lobbyist represent special interest groups. So basically she is saying when voted she will not change anything.

This country is in an economic crisis, would it be wise to elect a person who can’t manage a campaign, let alone a country!

Rahni, Connecticut   May 15th, 2008 12:18 pm ET

Recently I read the Obama campaign staff members in Indiana and West Virginia said they encountered much hatred when they knock on doors or calling on the behalf of the Obama campaign. The campaign members said that people said they will NEVER vote for a “N” word for President! Also, the white Obama campaign members were called White “N” word.

African-American and other colored ethnicities voted for non-people of color for Presidents. Why can’t some white people vote for a person of color? What is the problem? RACISM!!! The people, who have racist hearts, are now saying they will NOT vote for Barack Obama because he doesn’t have enough experience they hiding behind that reason.

Our society never grew up or learned its lessons from the past. Unfortunately, so many Americans die for equality. This is just sad.

Rahni, Connecticut

Kent, Illinois   May 15th, 2008 12:29 pm ET

This country is not filled up with rednecks. I am a 43 yr old white man. I will be voting for Obama in November. These “Jerry Springer” West Virginia people are not representative of the U.S. as a whole.

Obama’s popularity and millions of voters are not only black people. There is racism no doubt. But God forbid these WV people be looked at as representing all white Americans……….because they don’t.

Kaylor Hildenbrand   May 15th, 2008 12:46 pm ET

The true monster is the ignorance displayed, and the guise of wanting to count all voters when Clinton insists on including the results from Florida and Michigan in her vote tally. I’m sure I’m not the only well educated, professional Obama supporter who understood the rules of the game, knew the votes would not count whether Obama’s name was on the ballot or not, and stayed home on primary day in Florida. I have yet to see this angle addressed.

Deb n Texas   May 15th, 2008 12:50 pm ET

Clinton and all of her folks are desparate people, trying to divide this country. It is shameful, they are acting like Republicans.

Gary Chandler in Canada   May 15th, 2008 1:03 pm ET

On Blitzer yesterday, Clinton said 17 million have voted for her. That’s not true, according to statistics on the real clear politics website.
Counting Fla and MI, and estimates from IA, NV, ME, WA, which did not release their popular vote results, she falls short of 17 million, though Obama is over 17 million.
It’s also a lie, according to this site, that she is ahead in popular vote, but honesty is not an important consideration for her supporters. Even with 0% for Obama out of Michigan and only 29% out of FLA, neither of which would be hold in a ‘real’ contest, he is ahead in the popular vote. Yes, it is close, but adding what he would get in a proper democratic process, instead of 0 and 29%, his lead will be larger.
This brings into question Lou Dobbs assertion that it will be a ‘brokered’ nominee. While it may be true the super delegate ‘process’ may be strange, if they select Obama, they are going with the candidate who is leading in landslide victories, the ‘complete’ popular vote, pledged delegates, states won, grass roots financial support, and international appeal. *This is WITH FLA and MI included.
With expected results in the remaining states, it’s impossible she will catch him in ANY of the categories, with FLA and MI included, ‘as is’.
Any last second Hail Mary pass would be intercepted by even a 40% distribution for Obama in the MI.

Mike in NYC   May 15th, 2008 1:08 pm ET

It’s called identity politics, and, like it or not, it works.

Whoever ends up in the WH, politics here in the US are changing.

Paris   May 15th, 2008 1:38 pm ET

Please pay attention to the polls.
The reason people didn’t vote for him wasn’t the color of his skin.
They didn’t vote for Obama, because they don’t trust him.
His lack of judgment, his lack of honesty about Wright, his lack of experience, him wanting to negotiate with terrorists. The bitterness echoed in him and his wife.
These are very valid reasons why people didn’t vote for Obama.
Why do you like to insist on attaching it to race in order to buy him sympathy and guilt votes.

Gary Chandler in Canada   May 15th, 2008 1:42 pm ET

Oh,,, Why are pundits saying the race issue is an Obama campaign problem? It’s an AMERICAN problem!
In Canada we have had a woman Prime Minister, as did England and India. We have had an East Indian Premier. There are openly gay politicians who have won reelection over several terms, we have had aboriginal cabinet ministers and an Asian, female Governor General.
Thanks to Bush’s failed presidency, the race barrier will be broken, and Americans will get more used to a pluralistic society.
I have written about this for years. America and Canada have a very similar multi cultural make up. There are ‘blended’ Americans and Canadians from all groups but there are also ethnic pockets and regions which retain their customs and cultural heritages.
Some 50 some years ago one of our Prime Ministers, 1957 Nobel Peace Prize recipient Lester B Pearson, recognised that ‘melting pot’, (everybody the same) was not the correct analysis for our cultural diversity. He coined the term ‘cultural mosaic’ and brought programs and changes which have been very successful over a 1/2 century.
Does the USA have government funded multi cultural centres and events?
It’s not that Canada is without racism, or that it runs rampant in the USA. (For instance, it’s unlikely the ‘racist’ vote will stop Obama from becoming President.) It’s more a question of putting more handles on the situation.
For starters, this is the second post by a pundit on this BLOG site which looked racism terms of a ‘campaign’ problem, as if it’s par for the course as nation!?

Denise, Nebraska   May 15th, 2008 2:04 pm ET

I live in a small town, rural america, with a heavy industry base. My husband works in a factory, as do many of our friends. I didn’t finish college, but plan on my children being college educated. Most people who contribute to this blog hate stereotypes and name calling…everyone created equal, everyone has the right to live and love as they please. Then why, why, why, are people like ME being constantly stereotyped as uneducated, poor, Tv watching, beer guzzling, gun running, religious fanatic RACIST?? This type of INFLAMATORY journalism not only opens old wound, but creates new ones. I won’t defend the people who are using race as a weapon against Obama, but remember, even those of us in rural america are ready for big change. Oh yeah, I’m a registered independent.

Racists disguised as "Hard working Americans?   May 15th, 2008 2:05 pm ET

You can look behind Senator Obama at any of his campaign rallies and
see white people. And I am sure that they work. How else will they
survive? To create this misnomer to try and deny that some, not all,
and maybe this particular voting block of white Americans who won’t vote
for him because of his race, is anything other than typical racists,
who aren’t going to vote for him anyhow, is preposterous. Maybe he
can’t “relate” to them because they don’t want to be related to outside
of their narrow minded thinking. The reality is, they live in America,
which cannot cater to that type of thinking. Someone needs to tell them the truth. That they are in the minority.

Kathie, Ontario, Canada   May 15th, 2008 2:13 pm ET

Since when does common sense guaranteed to come with
a university degree.
Alot of idiots out there with degrees. If you don’t believe me
look at the state of affairs countries world wide.
Countries aren’t run by undereducated blue collar workers,
the are run into the ground by these people of so called
intelligence with degrees hanging on their walls.

Kate   May 15th, 2008 2:17 pm ET

Since when does common sense come as a guarantee with a
university degree. Alot of idiots out there with degrees. If you
don’t believe me look at the state of affairs of countries around
the world. Countries aren’t run by the undereducated blue
collar workers. They are run into the ground, brought into
senseless wars by these people or intelligence who earned these so called degrees.

Jan Gray   May 15th, 2008 2:20 pm ET

Hey, Bonnie

I guess it’s Ok when 99% of blacks vote for Obama , do you really think if her were white they ALL would be voting for him.

If Colin Powell were running for the Presidency 99% of white’s
would vote for him, including me.

Are we all supposed to forget the Bitter remarks, or Rev. Wrights
remarks, Michelle Obama remarks to millions?

Quit playing the race card, it has nothing to do with race.We just don’t
trust Obama. He has lied too many times.

HILLARY OR MCCAIN 08

Larry   May 15th, 2008 2:27 pm ET

There will be no bridging of the rift in the democratic party. As evidenced on many of the blog posts throughout the past months, there has been too much bad blood let to heal the wounds.

Just my opinion.

Mike   May 15th, 2008 3:02 pm ET

BEWARE…..the same demograhic that claims NOT to be willing to vote for Senator Obama, will NEVER vote for Senator Clinton.

Lack of experience ? When did Ronald Reagan serve as a member of Congress ?…Yet he was elected President. Please stop with the double standard.

Finally, I’ve noticed how the Media has been subtle in steering American public opinion on this baseless notion that “hard working middle class white voters” can’t be reach by Barack Obama”…..so explain ND, MO, ID, VA, MD, SD, IA and WVA yes I said WVA in a state where he got 30% of the vote.

Mary   May 15th, 2008 3:40 pm ET

The 21st century, is a wake up call… No place for racist that time is over… let’s go for the futur

Mello Doug NM   May 15th, 2008 4:03 pm ET

The monster behind the curtain is IGNORANCE. Racism is a from of ignorance. Also, pretending that your throwing back a couple of whiskys and toting a gun like Fast Draw Magraw is ignorant and catering to ignorance. What ever happened to admiring people who pulled them selves up and worked and slaved and got though college and learned how to make intelligent choices. At this rate I guess it is OK to look down on Jefferson, Washington, Lincoln, Franklin and others who made this country. I guess beer guzzling, red neck, bubbas are the backbone of this country now. God help us all.

Jo Ann   May 15th, 2008 4:18 pm ET

It is reckless to suggest that racism only exists in the white community. I think that people like Reverend Jeremiah Wright and Louis Farrakhan prove that intolerance comes in many colors. Unfortunately, the “media’ has chosen to ignore the non-white racists in this country and instead focuses only on the white community.

While the cable news channels attack Clinton for pointing out the facts about white blue-collar workers reported by AP, they seem to have forgotten that in August of 2007 Barack Obama said, “I guarantee you African-American turnout, if I’m the nominee, goes up 30 percent around the country, minimum.”

Black racists are just as monstrous as white racists except they get a pass from the media.

The government can pass all the laws it wants, but it will not change people’s hearts.

Jo Ann
North Royalton, Ohio

JT   May 15th, 2008 4:27 pm ET

Racism seems like against Hillary because everybody is scared to be called racist if they support Hillary..

The DNC is doing a Liberman job on Hillary.

Hillary should run as independent.

Hillary 08!!

Just an observation, most of Obama’s advisers are white, what is this mean? Is this mean technacally whites will run the show and Obama will be apuppet?

Armand Dotsey   May 15th, 2008 5:06 pm ET

In the first 38 years of my life, the thought of voting never even scraped the surface of my mind until NOW. The idea I would like for you to pose to some of the panel is……Barack Obama and John Edwards as running mates. I believe Hillary has done a really good job of proving she’s way to negative to be on Obama’s ticket, however, if the main concern is the blue collar workers that Obama can’t reach, then John Edwards would more than sufficiently appeal to those other voters. OBAMA AND EDWARDS FOR THE WHITE HOUSE !!!

Mike in NYC   May 15th, 2008 5:13 pm ET

Mike wrote:

“…so explain ND, MO, ID, VA, MD, SD, IA and WVA yes I said WVA in a state where he got 30% of the vote.”

The closer whites live to large black populations, the more racial polarization there is, and the less likely they are to vote for a black. Diversity does not seem to promote “unity.”

ND, MO, ID, SD and IA represent the opposite. White Democrats in those states tend to be quite liberal, due to very low black populations and the resulting absence of racial polarization.

MD’s large black population was the decisive factor there. VA has more complicated demographics, but I do recall that Clinton won big in the overwhelmingly white western part of that state. This was an exception to the above rule, but in Clinton’s favor, even though BO won the state.

WVA was also an exception to the rule, but also in Clinton’s favor, and she won big there, to say the least.

Obama definitely has a problem among whites who know the racial score.

Fay, CA   May 15th, 2008 5:38 pm ET

A lot of Democrats are saying they will not vote for Obama in the general election and will instead vote for McCain–many of them claim that it’s basically because they don’t feel he’s “experienced” enough, but a vote for McCain is a vote against their own interests, so you have to wonder why they’d be so rabidly opposed to voting for another Democrat–there’s no doubt in my mind that racism plays a big part in this sort of thinking and it’s disgusting and sad and not something that will be easily overcome.

Michael Lyon Alvarez   May 15th, 2008 5:40 pm ET

Well, we need to pay more attention to Washington. Both of them. No, you should not say good things, or support a man or woman running just because you feel sorry for them! It isn’t right AT ALL to do that!
I think Hilary should win. If one wants a man, for what have you reason, as dumb as that sounds, yes, McCain would be the choice! He has really stepped up his game, and I hope that it has been noticed by other men who down the line, want to be president, and happen to be Republican.
No one is perfect, and we all do step up our game. I think those who support McCain passionately should look at him and his footage NOW, not in the past!

Jane, Detroit, MI   May 15th, 2008 5:42 pm ET

Well said, Bonnie. And like Hillary Clinton, and John McCain, these racists will be left behind as a distant memory when Barack Obama takes the Oath of Office in January. Obama has gathered so many supporters, and over 2 million donors, because most of America is ready for change, not more of the same. People that are racist can go live in the hills clinging to their guns and religion. Just stay out of our way.

TONI   May 15th, 2008 5:44 pm ET

This has nothing to do with race. Obama is half white. He is not black. Yet he is running as the black candidate. I think the problem with voters is they see a man who has not embraced his whiteness. Black church, black wife, black supporters. I understand the need for the black community to imbrace him, but the reason I am not voting for him, is his lack of connection with the avg guy, white or black.It again has nothing to do with race, and everything to do with qualifications and the reality is, NO ONE is going to walk into those chambers with dems and rep and change anything. You can change the tone a little, but you would have to pass legislation to change anything and thats not the Presidents job. Obama has no record of passing anything. I am voting for Hilary Clinton whether she wins the nomination or not, I dont agree with folks that say they will vote for mccain, but I dont feel I can vote for obama.

disenfranchised   May 15th, 2008 5:53 pm ET

You know I am hearing such hate comming out of obamas camp. Last nite when Edwards mentioned hilarys name everyone booed! Thats so immature really. Everyone is complaining about the white people in our country, but truth be told the media dosent want to talk about 90% of black voters voting for Obama. Is that not racist? We are afraid of the truth. Black people will vote for a black candiate. More whites are voting for Obama than blacks for Hilary. How are we the racists? Did you ever notice when Phil Donahue had his tv show the audience was all white, no blacks attended. However Oprah Montel more whites than blacks, who is racist here. The Media just wont talk about that aspect of it.

Chris   May 15th, 2008 5:53 pm ET

WV represents .6% of the US population. As always Clinton sensationalizes the small things into something they are not. A population that small does not reflect all white America. I am a black woman who does not believe there is a race problem so big in America that it will determine the general election results. Racism is a global problem that needs a global solution. What continues to keep getting lost in the ’spin” is his mother is a white a Hillary.

cedar   May 15th, 2008 6:05 pm ET

Are these white blue collar workers responding negatively to Obama because of his race or because of his racist pastor and the fact that he sat there for 20 years listening? Would you not be appaled if Hillary’s pastor had said the same things about Blacks for 20 years?

90% of African Americans in N. Carolina voted for Obama. Were they all educated? Did they all vote for him because they know the nuanced difference between his policies and Clinton’s?

If you look at the recent blogs here, Obama supporters are being very elitist and racist to boot.

L. Cabrera   May 15th, 2008 6:23 pm ET

Calling people “Jerry Springer whites” “uneducated whites” and all the tripe that is written here is shameful. Especially for a group of people who claim to not be racist.

I am not voting for Obama because I do not like the man and who he associates with. I do not like his lack of a substantial track record on anything and his lack of judgement, and the racist, white-hating, classist (when it comes to white people) following he is aquiring.

I am white. I am educated. I am voting for Hillary and I do not care what race or color Obama is.

Jan from Wood Dale IL   May 15th, 2008 6:35 pm ET

Discrimination comes in all forms. Obama has begun to show his true colors, and they are not very uniting. Knowing he took a “thumping” in West Virginia, a state he pretty much wrote off, he played by “boys club rules” and had Edwards announce his endorsement in order to deflate the importance of Clinton’s win. I can’t remember the last time any candidate won every single county of a state. Can you?

I’ve noticed that Obama also wore the flag pin on his lapel. Gee, I remember his speech about not having to wear a token to prove his patriotism. What’s changed? He wasn’t speaking to a group of veterans in Grand Rapids, MI. Does Obama now feel that more people will relate to his “token” gesture? That’s like saying we’re all stupid. I might not have an ivy league degree, but I can see that Obama is no uniter of race, or gender, or education, or income bias.

Fay, CA   May 15th, 2008 6:55 pm ET

The government can pass all the laws it wants, but it will not change people’s hearts.

Jo Ann, it seems to me that people who hold despicable racist views don’t have hearts to begin.

Also, if the “media” feels that a black view point is somehow racist or inflammatory, no “pass” is given–the non-stop coverage of Reverend Wright controversy was a good example of this.

Mike in NYC   May 15th, 2008 6:58 pm ET

Jane, Detroit, MI wrote:

“… these racists will be left behind as a distant memory when Barack Obama takes the Oath of Office in January….People that are racist can go live in the hills clinging to their guns and religion. Just stay out of our way.”

Earth to Jane — most of the world is racist, meaning they put their own kind first. It’s only a sin if whites do it, I guess.

Chris wrote:

“Racism is a global problem that needs a global solution.”

Most of the world would laugh in your face if you told them that.

You sound as interventionist as Dubya.

Re: “uneducated whites”:

Blacks are the least educated group in the US, and they’re BO’s most reliable supporters. I guess they get a free pass on that “education” thing.

xtina, chicago   May 15th, 2008 7:03 pm ET

Obama is doing what Rev Wright said he would do. “He’ll do anything to get elected” is what Rev Wright said. That means the flag pin must now come out.

mack combs,WV   May 15th, 2008 7:08 pm ET

as one of those uneducated white men in West Virginia, you are probably surprized that i could even find this web page. the obama supporters and the media pundits who continue to kiss his butt have used every stereotype of West Virginians in their comments on clinton’s victory in West Virginia. if demograprhics are so important to the educated elitist obama supporters, check this one out! West Virginia–a 271.2 per 100,000 population violent crime rate. District of Columbia–a 1,371.2 per 100,000 population violent crime rate. Take me HOME!

Jolene   May 15th, 2008 7:34 pm ET

“It is said that young Americans don’t see race the way older Americans do.”

Then this should also be true for gender bias and ageism. Why aren’t these being considered monsters behind the curtain? Afterall, we do have an African American, woman, and 71 year old as candidates.

Jolene, St. Joseph, MI

Mike in NYC   May 15th, 2008 8:18 pm ET

mack combs, WV wrote:

“West Virginia–a 271.2 per 100,000 population violent crime rate. District of Columbia–a 1,371.2 per 100,000 population violent crime rate. Take me HOME!”

But, but, but … WV’s crime rate can’t be that low. Don’t you know that poverty causes crime? So does “uneducation”.

271.2 per 100,000? Can’t be right. Your decimal point must have slipped a digit. Yeah, that’s it.

xtina, chicago   May 15th, 2008 8:40 pm ET

Don’t people have a problem with 90 year old Congressmen and judges?

Jim   May 15th, 2008 8:48 pm ET

Read the post from Mello Doug NM on racism. As mack combs,WV says he is “one of those uneducated white men in West Virginia ” talking like a racist and concerned about stereotypes of West Virginians. Is Mack also a Republican and will not vote for a woman either? Perhaps the stereotype is deserved.

jes   May 15th, 2008 9:04 pm ET

One of Obamas many character flaws is lack of good judgment. Once again he showed everyone what a totally arrogant elitist he is. He just doesn’t get it & he never will because he believes he is entitled!!

Diane   May 15th, 2008 9:07 pm ET

Interestingly enough, I think everyone knows that racist are those “so called” whites that have black blood, which in turn makes them black. They think and hope their ugly actions toward other races will cover up their unfortunate shame for really being black, themselves. However, former slave nannies knew how to distinguish true whites from blacks and that secret has been passed along, so you really aren’t fooling anybody. Real white people know who they are, and in the 21st century have absolutely no fears or inhibitions when it comes to diversity. There are certain states in this Union that are known for these closet blacks. Right on… or whatever.

Mike in NYC   May 15th, 2008 9:09 pm ET

Jim wrote:

“Perhaps the stereotype is deserved.”

Many stereotypes do have some, or more than some, basis in reality.

Check out the DC crime stat cited by Mack, for instance.

jes   May 15th, 2008 9:26 pm ET

Both Barack & Michelle Obama are arrogant, egotistical, well educated racists. A SNOB comes in all colors. It has nothing to do with politics. Any adult male who refers to an adult female as ’sweetie” is a rude sexist jerk!!

Jim   May 15th, 2008 9:27 pm ET

jes. The only ones feeling entitled are the Clintons and the Republicans. Obama had the good judgement to vote against the Iraq war that Hillary and McCain voted for. He is an “arrogant elitist”? Is that a way to insult him as an educated black man? The racist monster is coming out from behind the curtain.

Luis M   May 15th, 2008 9:33 pm ET

Hillary, do not go gently into the night. Fight for us. fight for the real democratic party, show the elitist left, what it’s really like to be kicked around, knocked down, dragged out fight, use the words of knowledge, not the words of deception, from the likes of Kerry, Edwards, Kennedy, Biden, Dodd, Carter, McGovern, Dean. These pass candidates are well known defeatist, quitting before it’s over. Hillary you are going to win the popular votes! I guarantee it! The superdelegates can not overrule the democratic people. ROCK ON HILLARY
HRCLINTON / RFKENNEDY JR. In 2008 The real Dream ticket to the future

Luis M   May 15th, 2008 9:38 pm ET

You notice I didn’t mention the “R” word. “racist” bahh!

This is why I’m a democrat

Kent, Illinois   May 15th, 2008 9:48 pm ET

L Cabrera………….

Hey, I call it as I see it. I happen to be ready for a President that cares about all the people of this nation. He actually cares about EVERYONE. Did you hear Cheney when he said “SO” when told what the people of this country cared about? Does this ring a bell?

Seems everybody is ready for Bush to be done yesterday. But, some people are hesitant on Obama because of their learned racist behavior. Yeah I’m white. And, I’m sick of the haters ok? I’m not elitist. I just wish people could see through their own hate.

Kent, Illinois   May 15th, 2008 9:59 pm ET

Mac Combs…………..

The District of Columbia is not representative of anywhere. That is all on it’s own. West Virginia will unfortunately go Republican in November. Ironic really. You cannot dispute their are alot of people per capita that are on or below the poverty line in WV.

Why………..why, why then do you people continue to vote for rich people who don’t care about you?

Luis M   May 15th, 2008 10:02 pm ET

According to Obama, His wife Michelle Obama must be clinging to
her gun and her religion, because she seems bitter.

First time?

First time? Michelle (Move On Girl) Getover yourself.

Lynn   May 15th, 2008 10:38 pm ET

They talk about how the Clintons are favored with the lower income, less educated whites of Penn, W Virginia, Ohio etc, but what about all the baggage the Clintons bring with them back to the White House. The 90’s was thick with scandal and impeachment promises - but that has seemed to be forgotten along with the current scandals and scams Bill is involved with (Dubai, Columbia, his library etc) and what about the hedgefund managed by chelsea, and the real estate deals the entire family is involved with. I do not hear much about this now, but will definitely be an issue in the fall. Why don’t we hear more about the “do as I say not as I do” convictions of the Clinton family.

Luis M   May 15th, 2008 11:09 pm ET

Baggae? Baggage?
Typical “white” woman,
first time?
Renso?
Rev Wright?
Cling to religion?
Farrackhan?
Ayers?
Cling to guns?
Politics of old?
Kennedy? Kerry? Dodd? Carter? Biden?
No Pledge pin?
Pledge pin?
Special interests?
Lobbyist?
Do we see a pattern?
That’s the pot , calling the kettle ______?

Luis M   May 15th, 2008 11:17 pm ET

I wonder what Obama’s library going to look like?

june   May 15th, 2008 11:22 pm ET

This is getting ridiculous about the WHITE WORKING CLASS VOTE. I am a white working class female…there are thousands of us…and we support Obama.
He has also received several union endorsements. What’s wrong with you people?

CAROLYN JONES   May 15th, 2008 11:39 pm ET

DID NOT ANY SEE. THE NEWS WHEN THE IRANIAN PRES. CAME TO AMERICA?

CJ
HW CA.

CAROLYN JONES   May 15th, 2008 11:50 pm ET

WHAT UP WITH THIS POVERTY?
EITHER YOUR RICH OR POOR.
OR WEALTHY ELITEST LIKE THE MC CAINS AND THE CLINTONS?

Mike in NYC   May 16th, 2008 9:32 am ET

Kent, Illinois wrote:

“The District of Columbia is not representative of anywhere.”

It seems to bear a striking resemblance to Detroit, East St. Louis, Atlanta, Memphis, Camden NJ, Gary IN, Baltimore, Cleveland, NOLA, etc.

Letha   May 16th, 2008 10:13 am ET

What a bunch of bunk! It has little to do with racism in the way you state or the comments made. It can be the arrogance of Obama and the claim that he gets all the educated liberal thinkers who must be smarter than the average American. Is it because they are stupid enough to think like him? Or, it could be Michelle Obamas thesis or the Rev Wright or the fact he is simply the cheerleader at the basketball rally and the team may lose the game. Maybe, it’s the young African Americans who point their fingers in our typical white faces and say we own them because of the past. I don’t like to hear every speech with the under current of “pity me because I’m a little black boy” and rhetoric is rhetoric but most of the time he has no real direction. He has no claim to a senate record and he has shown me nothing. Most of the people who are supporting any one but him have been down that open minded thought process and know a good line when we hear it. I wont cast my one little vote for a book smart, people stupid person.

Tiffany   May 16th, 2008 1:44 pm ET

No candidate has won the presidency without winning West Virginia in almost 100 years. Now we know who to blame for two terms of Bush.

mike   May 17th, 2008 2:53 am ET

IF A CANDIDATE IS KNOWN BY THE
COMPANY THEY KEEP!

When the Rev. William Procanick
put his hand on the Bible during his sex-abuse trial in Oneida County
Court earlier this year, he swore to tell the whole truth and nothing
but the truth. But as the former Clinton pastor was sentenced Friday to
three years in prison for inappropriately touching a 7-year-old girl at
his home last March, Judge Michael L. Dwyer said Procanick sacrificed
his honesty the day he testified.
Okay, so now that Bill and
Hillary Clinton’s pastor has been convicted of child molestation, will
we see the same furor directed at Hillary that Obama has had to endure
these last
few weeks?

IF A CANDIDATE IS KNOWN BY THE
PASTOR THEY KEEP

John   May 17th, 2008 3:54 am ET

For all you Obama haters, Im a white guy from north carolina. I think he will make a great president. He never singled out the americans like your candidate did. His message is to help all americans. Your candidate showed her reals colors. Hillary said she didnt need the black vote. What does that say about her character and yours if you support that. A president is suppose to be for all americans.

John   May 17th, 2008 4:14 am ET

Racism is everywere, Just read the blogs, look at the news. Mike from NYC! Did you see what happened in your great city of new york, cops are killing innocent people. Im a white guy from north carolina and I will never step foot in that state. That realy discusted me out. We all know race will play a big role on how america votes. We try to change and bully other countries. We need to work on out own problems. What makes our country any diffrent from any communist country. Special interest groups run this country and it shows. We as americans just suger coat the problems. Other countries see it, thats why we have no foreign relationships. We are no better than Iran, China, or north korea.Our govt miss leads its people to. Its up to us as americans to make a change.

Mike in NYC   May 17th, 2008 1:59 pm ET

From Joseph Sobran, April 1997:

The concept of envy – the hatred of the superior – has dropped out of our moral vocabulary… The idea that white Christian civilization is hated more for its virtues than its sins doesn’t occur to us, because it’s not a nice idea… Western man towers over the rest of the world in ways so large as to be almost inexpressible. It’s Western exploration, science, and conquest that have revealed the world to itself. Other races feel like subjects of Western power long after colonialism, imperialism, and slavery have disappeared. The charge of racism puzzles whites who feel not hostility, but only baffled good will, because they don’t grasp what it really means: humiliation. The white man presents an image of superiority even when he isn’t conscious of it. And, superiority excites envy. Destroying white civilization is the inmost desire of the league of designated victims we call minorities.

Chuck A   May 18th, 2008 6:50 pm ET

Wake up People.
Why would you give one of the most powerful positions in the world to a man with so little experience?
No matter how good he talks, he does not have as much know how as he should to be in that position.
another thing to think about is…..although you cannot hold what Rev wright said against him, you have to think…….he sat in front of this man for 20 years………is that why he said his grandmother was a “typical” white person? What is a typical white person? Is that the view of a “typical” black person?
We are all humans reguardless of color, and we are all in need of a change in our governments way of taking care of our country.
Lets go for hands on experience experience this time, and maybe next time take a chance on good talk.
None of these candidates are perfect, none have ever been, but do we want 4 more years of bush? 4 years of inexperienced talk? or someone who knows the current system enough to make the changes we need?

Chuck A   May 18th, 2008 6:53 pm ET

Looks like the leader of the National Pep Rally will win the nomination. Now what?
He starts learning how to be President?
I hope we can make it long enough for him to get it right.

bill   May 20th, 2008 1:29 am ET

If CNN help an Iowa poll between the two democrats it would help Hillary’s claim that he has lost white, working class Reagan democrats. Back in January Obama won by a comfortable lead over Clinton, so if that lead is lost now, that means Obama is a flawed Kerry/Gore type candidate

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