Barclay Palmer
360° Senior Producer
Ok, West Virginia was a nice side show on our way to the big tent, and we’ll have a few more of those. But let’s look ahead for a moment to the human cannonball act: Is this the year Dems rocket back into the White House, fueled by discontent over gas prices, the economy and the war? Or will they have a candidate so battered by the lion taming act that a Republican packagable as moderate and will capture Reagan Democrats and the political center, and win the brass ring for the Republicans yet again?
Mississippi might offer a better clue to this riddle than West Virginia. Democrat Travis Childers won the race in Mississippi’s first congressional district, held by Republicans have held since 1994. This is the second time in two weeks that a Democrat has defeated a Republican in an open Congressional seat in the south. On May 3rd, Democrat Don Cazayoux won a special election in Louisiana.
But that supposed side show in West Virginia last night might offer the more telling clue. Exit polls show that one out of five white voters said race was an important factor in their votes. And more than four out of five white voters who said race factored in their decision pulled the lever for Clinton. That’s a far higher percentage than in most previous primaries, and a worrisome sign for Obama. Can he win over Clinton’s supporters among women and white working class voters? Or, as Hillary Clinton has suggested, is the Republican moderate better positioned to do that in key swing states?
What do you think? Please send us your thoughts. Thank you!
| Cindy |
May 14th, 2008 10:48 am ET I think the voting and Hillary’s huge win shows a big chink in Obama’s armor. They can pretend that it doesn’t exist all they want but it does. He can’t get the middle class to vote for him no matter what he does. Most of them are even saying that if he wins the nomination they will vote for McCain or sit the election out. And that doesn’t bode too well for Obama. He needs to start speaking their language and quick…not that it’ll help him any. Once people make up their minds on someone it is very hard to change their thinking. |
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| Lorie Ann, Buellton, California |
May 14th, 2008 10:55 am ET I don’t think any of us can say for sure what the outcome of this election will be. I’d hope the American people will listen to what all the candidates have to say. And that includes John McCain. Lorie Ann, Buellton, Calif. |
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| Ann |
May 14th, 2008 11:02 am ET I wouldn’t call West Virginia a “side show”. Sounds like down playing them as voters. Hillary supporters are not going away as she has continued to win the swing states required to be President of the U.S. Maybe she can offer HIM a running spot as HER Vice President since she obviously has what it takes to be electable. There has been too much negative about him and she has the intelligence and integrity, and the experience to be President. If the majority of Obama supporters claim they will vote for her if she’s the nominee, then I do not see what the problem is. The convention knows who the most electable is so the math really will not matter in the end..which she may end up with anyway. Ain’t over till it’s over! So, yes, dems should unite (as McGovern claims) and allow Obama to be her running mate. He may make a good Vice President…it’s all wait and see. |
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| Annie Kate |
May 14th, 2008 11:11 am ET Barclay, Despite the lion taming act Obama has yet to appeal to the groups that vote for Hillary - the blue collared workers, etc. Without those groups Obama looks like a modern day liberal with a George McGovern following. If I remember my history correctly, McGovern tanked badly in the general election. Obama’s pitifully thin resume does not help him either as the GOP will be quick to point out his enormous lack of experience. If Hillary is not the nominee or not on the Democratic ticket I think her supporters will vote for McCain - he’s well liked and has a tremendous amount of experience. Obama might make a wonderful President once he gets some experience but the Presidency is not the place to start the learning process. Annie Kate |
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| Tammy, Berwick, LA |
May 14th, 2008 11:23 am ET LA and MS both went to Obama in the Democratic primary, so the point of the states’ Dems who voted in the primaries choosing him in the General Election is probably moot. An overwhelming majority of the state, however, voted a Republcan for governor without a run-off being needed in the fall. He is also of Indian heritage. Race wasn’t an issue. The disastrous term of Kathleen Blanco and her Democratic team of idiots was however a problem for many of us after Katrina and Rita. I personally want the most qualified person in the Oval Office. I want the person who can work in the international community and put together a team qualified to work in that community. I want someone who has ideas that will work to help us domestically as well and not one whose policies will further our debt and continue enabling able-bodied Americans to not take resposibility for themselves by relying on the government to save them, feed them, house them, and provide medical care for them when they should be able to do it on their own. If it’s not John McCain, it’s Hillary Clinton. End of story regardless of pandering, pundits, and Obama supporters’ wishful fantasies… |
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| Gary Chandler in Canada |
May 14th, 2008 11:23 am ET You say voting on race is ‘a worrisome sign for Obama’!? |
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| Rob |
May 14th, 2008 11:39 am ET it’s a distraction which prevents the nominee from moving on to the general. The media gets the assist for keeping the Clinton campaign alive. Why won’t it go after the skeletons in her closet? Obama won’t and that should say volumes about the type of candidate/man that he is. That would certainly assist this thing ending the way it should have by now. |
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| david Gonzalez |
May 14th, 2008 11:45 am ET Barracks people stated right out they don’t want or need west virginia. They have stated they don’t need Florida nor Michigan. He has brushed off Pensylvania and ohio! The polls show him tied in historic Massachusetts with McCain. |
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| jack |
May 14th, 2008 12:04 pm ET I am an Obama supporter. And if Hillary swiped the nomination from under him, I would vote Independent or McCain. No one is asking that question. They keep asking Clinton supporters if they would detract and not Obama supporters. That is a very good question to ask. I would feel let down by the Democratic party if Clinton were to squeak in with old political tactics. |
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| Beverly |
May 14th, 2008 12:06 pm ET West Virginia is a side show, at best it’s a rest stop ont he way to another state. As for the exit polls , WV is not the bell wetaher for the other 49 states, it demographic is unique and centrally cast to favor one candidate who look like them. No one in NYC cares what some high school drop out in a one industry state thinks. These low infomation voters still think Obama is a muslim as one woman stated empathically on Godd Morning America yesterday, despite being corrected by the news interviewer her reply was ” Iknow that’s what he he says but I don’t think so”. WV has had it’s 15 minutes now its time to more on. |
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| JT |
May 14th, 2008 12:22 pm ET Warning to the superdelegates that says, Do you realy want to win? If you do, then the right choice is Hillary! Hillary 08!! |
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| Paul |
May 14th, 2008 12:35 pm ET If Clinton loses the nomination, then its time for a Clinton/Bloomberg ticket to quell the rift in both parties. |
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| Debbie |
May 14th, 2008 12:37 pm ET West Virginia did nothing. A net in delegates of the teens when you need over a hundred means nothing! |
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| Patricia |
May 14th, 2008 12:39 pm ET Hilary won West Virigina, but can she win the White House?Hilary is a great speaker on how to solve a problem short term, but can she a give the American people a long term solutions about the economy. I feel she won West Virigina ,because most of the residents of West Virigina are still living in the Jim Crow era. Most of the residents would rather see Hilary be nominated then to see a black man nominated. I feel most voters voted the way they were raised instead of the who would do a better job. This is the main reason why people of color don’t want to visit their state. I don’t feel all the residents aren’t like this, so I’m saying sorry to the ones who are not like that. |
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| L Daniel, Lovanville, Ga. |
May 14th, 2008 12:40 pm ET Of course race will be an issue, but if we focus on the things we have in common rather than our differences Dems can rally behind Sen. Obama once he is officially announced the nominee. I am continually amazed by Dems who say if their choice is not at the top of the ticket in the GE they will vote for the Rep. Well, that is just stupid…but if you don’t care about Roe vs. Wade, the economy of the middle class, healthcare, and not to mention the justices that will be appointed during the next administration then by all means vote Rep. If you think the last 7.5 years were bad how do you think we will fare after 12 years of the same Bush policies. Wake up people this country is in trouble is this petty BS is ridiculous get over yourselves and start thinking about the bigger picture. |
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| bitter gun toting bible thumper |
May 14th, 2008 12:49 pm ET Side Show? How rude!!! Howard Dean sat on CNN April 3rd and told the world he would “absolutely seat” Florida and Mi. That hotel rooms were booked for the delegates. He wants to push Hillary out first so his “can’t lose because he’s black elitest Obama” gets the nom. with only 2025 delegates. It’s really a shame that the “globe” is the only place the public hears about Larry Sinclair/obama and the law suit filed in Minnesota. |
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| Lamont Herron |
May 14th, 2008 12:55 pm ET Why all the fuss about Hillary’s W. Virginia big win? Most of the Primaries that Obama has won (and he has won more contest than Hillary) have been in the double digits and some have been by more than 20 points. So why all the fuss when Hillary has only beaten Obama twice by double digits. I really didn’t expect Obama to win W. Virginia. How could he win there when there are voters (primarily white voters) who state that they would not vote for him because he is Muslim. Now this man has been a christian ALL of his life and this has not only been proven by Obama’s camp, but by political researchers and the media. To me personally it shouldn’t matter if he is Christian (and i’m Christian) or Muslim as long as he is qualified. To me when voters say they aren’t voting for Obama because he is Muslim its just a excuse instead of saying “i’m not voting for Obama cause he is a Black man. I believe this country has came a long way, but still falls very short. I shake my head at my fellow racist Americans on how we can allow an “idiot” to run this country for 8yrs to almost total ruin, but not a person who is totally funded by the people and for the people. Instead my fellow Americans would rather see another politician who is backed by PACS and Special Interest Groups who offer the same “Washington 2Step” politics. This country needs to do an about face or 180 degree turn back to the right direction and to achieve this OUR country needs a real “CHANGE” in the way its leadership prioritize, assesses, and implement sound solutions. Its sad to see that some of my fellow Americans would rather have a President who allows price gouging of fuel by Oil companies, sends our sons and daughters in harms way to fight an unjust war, deplete all the financial resourses that took us from a few trillion dollars in surplus back to trillions in debt, mismanagement of Katrina, and implement a foreign policy that has made more enemies for America. Now ask yourself is your racism, prejudice, and pride worth another 4 to 8 years of the same or even worst times? Hopefully you Mr. Cooper will agree to that “Change” is needed and now. Lamont |
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| david Gonzalez |
May 14th, 2008 1:02 pm ET Hopefully the superdelegates read the writing on the wall! Barracks campaign has stated they do not need West Virginia,they have stated they don’t need Pensylvania,Ohio,Florida or michigan in the general!!?? |
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| rebecca gonzalez |
May 14th, 2008 1:05 pm ET If Hillary does not get the nomination, and McCain has a good VP |
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| Pascuala Brownlee |
May 14th, 2008 1:18 pm ET The Ohio, Pennsylvania, and West Virginia primaries in I am a Mama for Obama and my son is a baby Obama. |
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| nerakami |
May 14th, 2008 1:27 pm ET I sat watching the news channels last night and shook my head in absolute amazement…. Myanmar could end up with 100,000 dead… many are being threatened with starvation and diseases… and we spend approximately 80% of 5 hours of news time on a primary which insignificantly changes the overall democratic primary, regurgitating information, twisting & turning the same points over and over with no new revelations or insights…. I truly find that stunning. I no longer wonder why the rest of the world sees Americans as self-absorbed, selfish and arrogant folks… Please CNN let the rest of the world know that there are some Americans who truly care about what is happening in other countries and we truly care that there are so many thousands of people suffering so severely and that our thoughts and prayers are with them, even though our TV networks do not give that impression…. Geesh guys there’s more to our existence than only what goes on in America ! |
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| Sylvie Grace |
May 14th, 2008 1:36 pm ET The Hillary Clinton campaign has done everything they can to defeat Obama and nothing has worked, so declaring that because Hillary is white, she is in a better position to win the presidency than Obama is the best she can do. Unfortunately, this is a tactic that white people always refer to. When a white person is not on top, play into the racist fever in this country, created by colonialists and white supremacists — this is a white country - put the white person on top. I used to be a Clinton supporter. I thought that President Bill Clinton was genuine and I voted for him twice. To see this pitiful display really makes me ill to my stomach. They are playing into racist sentiment to win. They don’t care about this country, they just care about themselves. |
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| Pascuala Brownlee |
May 14th, 2008 1:59 pm ET Do I think that race is an issue in this campaign? Yes. |
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| Kent, Illinois |
May 14th, 2008 2:23 pm ET Obama will have no problem with McCain in November. That is, as long as he chooses a VP candidate that uneducated working class “white” people like. Sorry to say it that way, but it is true. The Republicans for some reason can get these poor “white”people to vote for them by waving a flag and talk about winning a war and being patriotic. It is amazing. They blindly vote for the Republicans who do not care about them. Republicans believe in less govt and everyone fending for yourselves. In other words, if you are rich……. great. If you are poor……….too bad. Wake up America. |
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| connie from Ohio |
May 14th, 2008 2:59 pm ET Wake up people are tired of the dirty politics and want a change other than the Republicans views. I am white and I live in Ohio and my husband and myself support Obama. I thought we as a country were way past be racist. We need to look at making a change for the better and vote for Obama, we don’t need the Clintons around giving the Republican party more fuel for the fire. We need help in the elderly healthcare and prescriptions, the economy, education, wisdom for dealing with all the overseas things, especially the war and all the young men and women being killed, for what? The reason changes daily. I think a vote for Obama is a vote for change!! And the democrats that say if Hillary doesn’t win they will vote for McCain, that would be great and you will have helped to ruin this Country withl 4 more years of nothing! Hillary just wants to get the Vice President spot locked up by making the point that she can get the blue collar workers, and I say so can Edwards!! He would be a good running mate for Obama! Obama/Edwards in ‘08! |
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| Illinois |
May 14th, 2008 4:19 pm ET It’s a warning….and not a subtle one, at that. Obama cannot and will not win in November, despite all the ridiculous comments from his supporters, the DNC, and the media. They all know he won’t win, yet they insist on declaring him the nominee. And the republicans are salavating just waiting for him to offcially be declared the nominee so they can start to rip him apart…..and they will, successfully. As for Childers, one could hardly use him as a comparison for how Obama would do in the GE re: the Wright issue. It was totally stupid for the republicans to even try to associate Childers to Obama/Wright. Yes, he was endorsed by Obama (big deal) but Childers certainly made every attempt he could in order to distance himself from Obama once the repubs tried to make the link between the three….and his distancing himself from them was successful. That’s why he got elected. Obama, on the other hand, is directly associated with Wright for 20 years…..and that will have a huge effect on the voters’ decisions in November. I can’t believe how people try to ignore that Wright is a significant reason why people won’t vote for him, yet always try to make the win in WVA due to “racist” white people but of course that’s typical for Obama, his supporters, and the biased media. Obama’s white vote has significantly dropped since the whole Wright issue came out and that isn’t because the man is black……it’s because he had chosen to engage in, and remain in, a close relationship with a person who has been “outed” as a racist and extremist. |
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| Anders Scooper |
May 14th, 2008 4:52 pm ET West Virginia was not a side show. Hillary has won the white working class vote in all the states she campaigned seriously in. The blacks are voting for Obama in huge numbers. What is wrong with the whites voting for Hillary in large numbers? After all if not Hillary , then McCain. |
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| Bob |
May 14th, 2008 8:08 pm ET Side show? Definately not. Nor will Kentucky be. WV known as a blue state went with GWB in the last two elections, and if Hillary’s not on the ticket, they’ll go with McCain. Let’s look at the states Hillary won, not the number of states. Only she can compete in the fall in swing states, and populous states that matter. She won big states, and she won states that won’t waiver in the fall. They’ll vote Repub. or not vote at all. |
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| Ann |
May 14th, 2008 8:31 pm ET No side show….the side show is Obama as President and Michelle as first lady..LOL… I’m sure when this goes to the convention….they all know Hillary is the only way this country will survive. Her supporters will never vote for Obama so all these Obama people that keep saying the dems need to unite…great…let’s unite…Hillary as President (because she’s the most qualified and smartest) and Obama for Vice President. If you can agree to that…then maybe..otherwise,,,,it is on to McCain country. |
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| Marvin Clayton |
May 14th, 2008 9:54 pm ET I find it odd that CNN just can’t seem to get something right. I am sick of hearing you say that “Obama has (and will have) a problem with the white, working class”. That could not be farther from the truth. Obama does not have a problem with anyone. The more accurate way to say it would be “the white, working class has a problem with Obama”. And does anyone wonder why? It’s quite obvious its because he’s black! Racism at its finest. When are you going to report that? |
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| Eion Hall |
May 14th, 2008 10:48 pm ET This so called uniting the party move by Edwards and others trying to force Hillary Clinton will have a devastating effect because rather than letting the democratic process take its course a virtual “brokered” nominee is emerging , Barack Obama, and this is going to hurt very deeply the Hillary Clinton supporters ,myself being one, and could prove crippling for Barack Obama in the national elections |
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| Sara Taylor |
May 14th, 2008 10:50 pm ET Tell The Truth….. Race Did Matter in WV and OH! I am not surprised about what happened in WV. I grew up outside of Pittsubrgh not far from Wheeling and as young African Americans, we knew that we were hated in WV. Of course only 22% of WV voters admitted to exit poll interviewers that race matters but we all know the truth!!!!! No news anchor or political experts wants to publically say it but we know the real deal about racism in WV and OH and how most whites view African Amercians in those states. We expect older white voters in those states to cast their vote for a black man when racism is rooted so deep in their hearts???? Race Did Matter in WV and OH! |
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| Diana Hays |
May 14th, 2008 10:55 pm ET I am mystified. Obama did not campaign in West Virginia. He made one short appearance that I know of and then left the state. He was not there for any period of time, though I think I heard a commentator say he spent ad money–2x what Clinton did. If he did not campaign, how is this little state of 300,000 [pretty small in my book] such a big deal? Why are the news folks making a big deal of the point spread? He didn’t campaign there!!!!! Doesn’t any body get it? I think he has a plan to “crush” Clinton back. He let her have her day, so she has something to remember. Now, that’s done. He’s gonna close this out for good and leave her sitting wondering what happened. |
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| SAmmons |
May 14th, 2008 10:55 pm ET Some of these bloggers live in delusion. Hillary is out and during her interview with Wolfe today , she advised all Democrats should vote for the Democrat nominee. She stressed that the needs of her supporters will never be meant with John McCain or sitting the vote out. |
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| cj-delhi ny |
May 14th, 2008 11:04 pm ET I think voting in Obama as president will be good for the country and just the thing people, like the ones in West Virginia, need to help them evolve and move into the same century as the rest of us. |
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| Valerie |
May 14th, 2008 11:04 pm ET Definitely a side show. Over 17 million Americans have voted for Obama, so obviously there are plenty of white people voting for him. The reason Obama has an overwhelming lead in so many of the metrics is that his campaign did a superior job at analyzing the delegate map, in a way that Hillary Clinton and all of the pundits were unable to match. I have more confidence in his team’s ability to analyze the ELECTORAL map than I have in the pundits’ ability. This is not 1960 or 1988 or 2004. If politics today were the same as it was in years past, then without a doubt, Clinton would be the frontrunner. But Obama is putting together a different kind of coalition. It has succeeded in the primaries; Clinton just hasn’t faced up to it yet. Obama’s coalition will succeed in the general election too. And if West Virginia has voted for every president since 1916, then guess what. It’s time for a change! |
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| Floyd-- SC |
May 14th, 2008 11:08 pm ET Every one makes a big deal out of the white working-class voter. Is there no such thing as a black working-class voter? Obama is pulling in the Black vote almost 100%–generally 90 something to single numbers for Hillary. I think a better question is can Hillary pull the black voter better than Obama can pull the white working-class voter. It is a shame that voters in this country have to be divided by race in this way. I am a white voter who proudly supports Obama–not because he is black–not because he has white ancestry–but because he is young (see where the older representatives have gotten us) and he has some new ideas. I might add that I am a registered democrat who has never voted for a democrat since I first voted in the 1972 election because they (democrats) always want to open the doors and give away the store–this time I don’t think that any more of the store can be given away than what was given away by the current administration. I would vote for the republicans again but, because of his age, those who vote for McCain better pay close attention to who his vice president is because that is who will wind up being president when the strain of the office of the president either kills McCain or puts him in a sanatorium. |
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| M Hill |
May 14th, 2008 11:29 pm ET I’m confused, why all the attention on white voters in west virginia. What about all those other states with predominately white voters that went for Obama. How do you explain that? |
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| Rick - Texas |
May 14th, 2008 11:30 pm ET West Virginia is definitely a warning! It is a warning signed, sealed and delivered to the dysfunctional DNC, the so-called Super Delegates, unfinished first-termer Senator Obama, and the failing Republican party. Working middle-class America, in-the-end, will not settle and accept for Obama as the Democratic nominee. Bottom line is that one who just pops up and decides he wants to be president and promise all this “change” can not win without some rank and file experience behind him. I personally do not trust him. I do believe he has good intentions but fear he will fail due to lack of experience. The world today can not afford an inexperienced candidate as the President. If Obama becomes the official nominee, I, a happily registered homosexual Democrat will indeed vote Republican for McCain. After much consideration, I have decided to place my personal issues of gay rights and legalizing civil unions on hold. My being gay does not constitute me as a whole. I am also an American, I am a tax-payer, and I love my country. I will vote for McCain if I have to. |
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| Karen |
May 14th, 2008 11:33 pm ET Have people forgotten that when others were still in the Republican contest, McCain only got 1% of the vote in the West Virginia caucus? I don’t understand why that is not noted when folks discuss the point spread from last night’s Democratic primary. |
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| Raymond Duke |
May 14th, 2008 11:59 pm ET I’m one of them middle class that Barack and the elites of the democrat party likes to refer to as a Gun-toting ,semi-religious bitter nut that is only half educated and also by the media. I would have voted for Hillary Clinton if she was the democrat nominee over John McCain. I’m an indepedent and my son is a democrat , my wife and two daughters are republicans ,we all thought she was the best of the three and decided we would all vote for her. Now that it looks like Barack will be annointed by these elites we will all vote for John McCain and hold our noses. H e beats the heck out of a party that thinks the white middle class is not good enough to be in their party. The republicans will accept us old sorry working class. Your pindits is wrong ,West Virginia is a warning and the white middle class will not be scoffed at and voye for Barack. If barack is the democrat nominee John McCain will be the next president. |
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| jeffindenver |
May 14th, 2008 11:59 pm ET I don’t feel Obama has honestly earned his way to the nomination or is the right person to be trusted with the presidency and commander in chief, so, as a loyal democrat I will definetly be voting for McCain in November if Hillary is not on the ballot. I am most upset party leaders disenfranchised Michigan and Florida voters; Hillary won those states and those delegates should have been given to her, and along time ago. As a result, Howard Dean, media pundits, and others have essentially rigged the primary process by their behavior, early on tilting this race in Obama’s favor!!! Obama can not carry Indiana, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, or Florida in November-but Hillary can. End of story: McCain is our next President if there is no Clinton on the ballot. Wasn’t it nice today that John Edwards, who used his campaign funds to get $400 hair cuts, is now supporting Obamat? What next? Rev. Wright and Michelle Obama singing Kum Ba Ya together on stage at the democratic national convention since they are not proud of America? |
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| carla |
May 15th, 2008 12:14 am ET i am from west virgina and i voted for hillary race had nothing to do with it. i think she can do the job. and i would vote for mcCain if i had to because he has more exp. |
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| bill young |
May 15th, 2008 12:39 am ET Some of these bloggers keep trying to prove that Rev. Wright was correct about America being good ole boy country, or at least WV. When an educated , articulate bi-ethnic Senator, who is running for pres. of the US, is called out for not appealing to non college educated “blue collar?” white males, I shake my head in wonder. Hillary as much as said they aren’t smart, just before she played the race card. Obama doesn’t have a problem with race. Unfortunately, parts of our great country still has. If you are a Dem. vote Dem. no matter what or you will get 8 more years of the same and our country will continue to pale in the eyes of the global community. |
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| Stephanie, WV |
May 15th, 2008 12:56 am ET First of all WV is stereotyped illiterate because of uneducated biggots who choose to portray us as such. Why is it eveytime a national news media steps foot in WV they look for the worst possible person to get a quote from? One or two biggots does not make an entire state racist. How many times in the last 24 hours have I been described as “white, working class, blah blah blah”. This election has become a race issue because America wants a race issue. Racism is a two way street. Blacks are as judgemental about whites as whites are about blacks. By the way isn’t Obama black and white? So what exactly is the issue? For the record WV has a multitude of industry, development, and technology; you all just focus on the coal. |
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| Helen |
May 15th, 2008 1:08 am ET I think that if all the voters would have heard about this Rev. Wright issue from the being Obama would not have 1/2 the votes he has now. I will not vote for him because I feel that he knew what Rev. Wright was about and he’s lying when he said he didn’t. I also feel that it is insulting to say that only uneducated people would vote for Hillary Clinton. Theres alot more people in this country that don’t have a college education than those who do and the superdelegates should remember that. |
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| ed |
May 15th, 2008 1:25 am ET Why insult the white voters against Obama? Label them racist! Call them ignorant, uneducated, stupid! We apparently are fair game for those who wish to vent nasty and mean virulence. But the 90% plus black voters for Obama? Oh, they are not racist! They are just voting their convictions. Hah! The real racism and divisiveness is being promoted by the media and others who are promoting this ridiculousness. It’s an assault on Hilary supporters, an attempt to make them feel guilty for THEIR convictions. Too many people are already casting the “guilt” vote, the vote to prove they are not racist. I prefer to cast my vote based on experience, substance, and voting record. Yes, some senators actually vote, and I prefer a miscast vote to a “present” vote. At least the miscast vote proves courage to make a stand. I’ll support Hilary all the way to the convention - and if it ends with a choice between McCain and Obama, my vote will go to McCain. It’ll be a vote not for the Republican but against the Democrat. And unless they begin giving Hilary a fair shake, they may never get my vote again! |
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| Rodrigo silva |
May 15th, 2008 1:56 am ET The reason that the west Virginia voted Clinton is because of what O’Reilly said in his interview: “you take from the affluent and give to the less affluent” which shows Hillary as a Robin Hood type figure. the every day American sees that she cares about their struggle. where as the more affluent democrat Americans which support Obama and seek the racial partisan vote of African American, have no need of financial defending. (the Ted Kennedy democrats). |
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| Rodrigo silva |
May 15th, 2008 2:03 am ET as for calling Hillary old politics, what do Americans think Ted Kennedy is, and he is the power behind Obama. check it out America…… |
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| Sara Murphy Clarksburg,WV |
May 15th, 2008 2:05 am ET Yes, I am proud to be from the “side show” state that we call almost heaven. Last night there was a reporter named Joe speaking.(Needless to say he must not have been that good I dont remember the last name)He made a comment to the effect that our state had the lowest number in college grads and more or less that we were prejudice idiots. Well, just so you all know, we choose our canidates like everyone else does,by the job we think they can do. So, just to clear up some of the ignorant ideas some people may have, we arent any more prejudice than the next state. Go Hillary, and God Bless America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| I am a West Virginian |
May 15th, 2008 2:06 am ET West virginia is a disfunctional state that is 40 years behind the times. Its so slow that majority of the residents in West Virginia do not have cabel and city water. Percentage of educated west virginians is way below national average, think how that adds up. I am a “black” west virginian and IT IS all about RACE. Im not just saying this because am an Obama supporter, but because it is true. Im a 25 year old male living in a well below average intellectual state. Do not, I repeat, DO NOT hold this win as an turning point for Mrs. Clinton. |
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| Steve from New york |
May 15th, 2008 2:36 am ET I predict that if Obama wins the candidancy there will be a lot of whie-male baby boomers will vote for McCain or if there are voters even a little left of center go all the way left and go for RALPH NADER; it will be a show of force for a LEGITTIMATE THIRD-PARTY this country desperately needs. Both candidates have done nothing more than be general, light, and inconclusive about how our will regain itself as a leading nation. Plans and not rhetoric is what I want to hear: who will be there cabinet memebers and what kind of administration; however, John Edwards seem to have a real legtimate claim to go after these most unpatriotic corporations which is all around us today. We need education and heath-care and Edwards seem to talk only of that so Hilary will be a lite-weight and Obama–fuggedabutit!–TOTAL RHETORIC!–a leader must be more than a good speaker. Beside he really does not relate to being an american and how we grew up in the 60’s 70’s and 80’s. I’m sorry. Obama will be a puppet of someone and maybe not dick cheney but WHO. |
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| Mike |
May 15th, 2008 3:24 am ET CNN…The Clinton News Network…I’m NOT suprised at the electronic sniping the white media has directed toward Senator Obama. Gloria Borger’s mentioning of Rev. Wright. I suppose if you keep reporting that Sen. Obama has a problem attracting hard working middle class white voters, it will actually come true. It’s ashame that CNN stoops to such depth. No mention of the values that hard working middle class black voters posess or their issues. Allow me to say this since we are talking politics, If you continue the one-sided, narrow-minded coverage of this election process, John F. Kennedy will be RE-ELECTED President of the United States, BEFORE I will ever watch your network again. |
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| Chevy |
May 15th, 2008 4:02 am ET Texas is proof of what is wrong with the democratic party right now. You had Hillary winning the voteing states and Obama winning the caucuses. If Texas is used as the measuring stick then would Obama have won all those caucus states if they held an election? In truth I don’t think he would have. The DNC needs to look at the caucus as a tradition and award 1 delegate to each state who holds a caucus Most of middle America works and can’t vote with a 2 hour window to do so. So you have a group of elites who can rearranged thier work schedules in order to stand up at a caucus or you have the youth vote and the votes of those who are retired lol and I think the people who are retired are to old and tired to go traipsing room to room for 3 or 4 hours while someone counts them. How ridiculous and unfair and undemocratic. Throw out the caucus states or call them a draw because they are unfair to working american’s (Hillary’s supporters) and you are left with Hillary carrying the biggest states with the most delegates in the general election. I laugh every time I think about Obama “the change candidate who wants to get rid of the old washington guard” uniting that same washington guard to get anything done. It don’t make sense and the reason it don’t make sense is that its all talk and no substance. Its a gimmick. It sounds good but its not realistic and right now with the country at war and the economy in the tank and with jobs leaving the country as quick as illegal aliens are coming in, we don’t need a talker we need a doer in the White House. I’m voting for Hillary if she runs and McCain if she doesn’t. |
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