Although this woman definitely is disturb, a good thing came out of this situation, the authorities removed the children from this mentally sick group of people that call themselves FLDS. Maybe the children will see another life other than the one they spent at the compound.

Rahni, Connecticut

Gary,
I feel bad for Rosita because there is obviously something wrong with her but why didn’t they do more the first time that she was convicted of this than just probation? Really that does nothing to stop people from committing crimes.

And how will this effect the case in Texas? Does this mean that since they entered the compound with out real cause that the case can be thrown out if the FLDS push it to a higher court? And can they get the kids back because of this?

“Police in Texas went to a judge; the call was deemed probable cause, and the raid was underway. ”

Because probable cause was not produced, this case and all findings will be dismissed.

DNA testing can be ordered to pair children with parents so that the court returns children to their rightful parents. However none of the findings can be used against them.

This will be the biggest future case for the unlawful intervention of the government on the rights of the church.

Take it from an officer of the Court; this may take a while (the court will slow the process in order to give the public the impression that something was done) but the clear ignorance on the part of authorities to follow due process will effect us for years to come.

Anyway you slice it, the State of Texas will have their hands full for some time to come sorting this out. I just have a feeling their case will all fall apart on legal technicalities. Hopefully, the women and children will be helped regardless of any legal glitch that may come about.

Lorie Ann, Buellton, Calif.

Oh gee, how ’bout that. The phone call was a hoax from a disturbed individual.

The other day I wrote in to the blog stating that, I feel, that there has been a rush to judgment against the FLDS and that maybe we should wait for some proof.

I was beat over the head by several of your dumb-ass bloggers who insisted that we have all the proof we need. Some suggested that I must be “one of them” because I wanted to wait for the facts to come out. According to the responses that I got, If someone says that this is happening - then IT IS happening - no more proof is needed.

Can we wait now and let the American legal system work? Let’s see how this plays out before we decide to execute these people, shall we?

Does it matter that a “phony call” was made?
Does it matter that this woman has a past history of making calls?
Does it matter that this woman has split personalities?

Does it matter that those children are now being protected?

My daughter wants to attend church and I tell her because there are so many of them, that when she is older SHE should decide which one is right for her .

FLDS children have no choice -

San Francisco, Ca

All I can is WOW, what a coincidence that a phony phone call started
all of this . In some strange way, maybe it was divine interviention. I feel so sorry for the children and women that have been affected by this hoax but I think it really is good that it has happened. You just
need to be careful approaching this woman since she is not playing
with a full deck she could really be dangerous.

I was hopeign some of the women would choose not to go back to the ranch…given a chance in th eoutside world may they might not want to ever go back or look back. Haven’t heard anything on ay women that didn’t go back to the ranch.

Seems to me they have been wanting in on this thing for a while and this was the just cause they needed.

Why can’t we just let these people alone . I don’t agree with their religion . But I wouldn’t want the government agencies telling me how to raise my kids or demand I chose my wife by everyone elses standards . I married a woman when she was 15 and I 19 years old . We have been to gather 48 years got 6 kids , 13 grandkids , 3 great grandkids . My mother was 25 years younger then my father and they were true to each other to death . After the civil war defferances in age was many time the same as those people in Colorado and Texas . I think the gas prices are a lot bigger problem then who is sleeping with who . I say if they want or not want to marry a old man let them say yes or no in front of a county official and go back to their self made resivation and get it on .

Can you imagine how much more abuse these women and children will face if this case gets thrown out because the police failed to trace this one phone call (or, had they already done so, divulge that results of the trace were not to the compound in Texas but to a repeat prank caller in Colorado)? You thought these people were paranoid, BEFORE? Now throw in a few hundred million bucks in lawsuits, should some judge throw this case out. Some prosector (not to mention the ATF) in Texas is probably sweating themself to sleep over this–

A SARAH OR NOT, KIDS NEED TO BE PROTECTED

Certainly, this so called “Sarah” did eventually or coincidentally lead to the raid of the Polygamy home in Texas, and thank God she did.

As much as our Constitution dictates “free speech,” “free religion,” it certainly doesn’t condone “free sex with minors.”

For the sake of the children, I hope that the state of Texas can and will find a way to keep the mothers with the children. As much as they mean well, and/or have to separate the mothers from the children, for the sake of the children and the investigation, it is for the most part important for mothers and children to stay together so as not to scar the children any further, emotionally.

As the children in general do not appear to be mistreated, as in the case of the young children, I would keep the families together. As far as the older girls (13 and up), they should probably be separated to keep the mothers from coercing them. It is obvious that for whatever reason, including religious beliefs ….many of these girls are pregnant, however, outside of the law, this situation is obviously not viewed as wrong. We know it’s wrong and it’s against the law, but do these poor unfortunate girls and wives know that? Something tells me that if they were born in to it, it is what it is, a life style that is different but acceptable for them.

If I were in charge of the law, I would keep an eye on this group but for now allow their families to stay together for the sake of the children.

I would also make certain that this group receive counseling and integration counseling. The children should also be allowed to go to public school, watch t.v., and socialize outside the home.

Poor kids.

Let’s hope that the association that we belong to, whether it be a club, fraternity, religion or even a political party is not considered a cult with rumors of illicit activities. For the government may just choose to act on an anonymous tip without authentication and “find” some evidence resulting in the forced lock up all involved.

Of course the primary interest here is the safety and well being of the children, and any possible victims. But, it seemed to me from the start that this rescue/raid was going way too far. With the initial evidence being flawed and no corroborating evidence prior to the raid, it seems that the authorities jumped the gun a bit. And, while the way of life of the church members is way out of line with the societal norms, I’m not sure that it’s our right or obligation to tell these people how to live. Any possible illegalities should be looked into, but it looks to me as thought this has gone way too far, and might be hurting more people that it is helping.

This is a terrible situation. I think the situation where these children were being brainwashed and treated improperly is horrible, but from what we know of the foster care system, it is fraught with the same problems if not more. I just pray for those poor children and hope that they don’t meet a worse fate at the hands of the state/foster care system than they did at the compound.

The Women is troubled but actually did a good thing getting the kids out of the compound. Hopefully the kids can start to live a NORMAL life outside of the FLDS! I say the more those kids interact with other NORMAL kids is only going to help them.

400 kids who had never been exposed to television, public schooling, etc. now “released” to foster homes. This is what our government does? Where is the outrage? One phony phone call, and hundreds of families are pronounced guilty. The FLDS may not lead their lives like the rest of us, but they are Americans. And that means Constitutional rights.

This whole thing in Texas, FLDS ..is a government caused nightmare for these people…anyone with a brain knows its a bunch of crap..there never was any phone call,no girl ever called anyone and this black woman in Denver,or where ever AZ. they are using her for a excuse in making the phone call because of her past record.

If its true …where did she get a cell phone,they dont have radios,tvs or such things at the FLDS ranch..if they did ,who taught Sarah to use it???..lets face it..there is no ‘SARAH’ never was and never will be a SARAH,!!!!!!!!!

I wonder how this would have been handled if this were a muslim ranch….I bet the judge and everyone down the line would be in jail,that had anything to do with this ..had it been muslim.!!!!!!

There is something ‘EVIL’ behind this thing,and its not the FLDS.

Johann Dohmann

The FLDS is a cult, not a sect. They are one of the biggest welfare fraud groups in the country and a bunch of pediofphiles.

Whether or not this was a ‘legit’ raid, it should have been done years ago. Free these women and children from these loons!

She’s not “troubled,” or “disturbed,” as Rahni in CT put it. She’s a criminal.

“Authorities in Texas acknowledge that a phone number used to report abuse at the YFZ ranch in El Dorado, Texas, came from a phone used previously by Swinton.”

And they only realized this after the raid? Uh … huh.

Believe you me, there are agendas at work here.

Rahni,

You are basing our opinions on _hearsay_ plain and simple.

If they have so much evidence (real evidence) why has not even a single arrest warrant been issued, not even a John/Jane Doe? Why are the men at the ranch not even under supervision and allowed to go anywhere? Why were the mothers (who were, at the very least complicit) allowed to stay with the children for so long?

Why wasn’t a SINGLE woman <17 pregnant of the 400+ children obtained presented to the court, the best they had was a document that a single child as young as 13 “may have” given birth. May have… a maybe, a possibility.. or maybe there are multiple women with the same name (well we know there are), and that was the youngest of them. So the only smoking gun we have is a “maybe”, and that’s after taking all of the records.

A “maybe”.. that’s enough to break appart 416 kids from their families and launch a protracted legal battle that will drain the resources of the legal system and CPS.. and prevent them from helping other kids.

What if.. no when.. there’s no other evidence? Do the families get their kids back, or is the court of hearsay enough to permanently strip them of their children?

I have a concern that a mass raid and siezure of 400 children can happen just by some wacko making a phony call. If the accusations about the actions inside the compound are true then I hope prosecutions happen. I do have doubts that babies in diapers were abused and the mass roundup is unjustified.
What’s next your neighbor calling and claiming your a terrorist and a swat team comes and breaks down your door and arrests you without real cause? Scary thought…

I think we all knew a fake call was what had happened. Unfortunatley, the FLDS may have been braking the law regardless. Becuase of that, they bear the responsability of the predicament they ultimatley put themselves (and thier children) in.

I feel sorry for the multitude of children who have either been born out of wedlock or not sure of whom might be their father. I do not feel sorry for the grown adults who are doing nothing more than using the church and the good lord as an umbrella for their sexual desires. Hopefully the authorties and specialist can reprogram these children and so-called adult women to a point of realization that there is more to life than being nothing more than a sexual object.

I completely agree with Rahni. It is unfortunate how the situation arose but some good must come out of it and I think it is going to be the well being of those children that were being brainwashed into believing that the FLDS was the way to live. I know that it will be hard on the children for a while being separated from their mothers but hopefully in the long run everything will turn out for the best.

Alexis R, Miami, Florida

The thing about this kind of case is this: If the initial probable cause falls through, but the state can prove that abuse occured, then the probable cause doesn’t really matter. Especially if it involves sexual abuse. Those people will still be charged with a crime.
Let me give you an example: Say the police received a phone call supposedly from a neighbor that said there was drug dealing going on on in the house next door. The police get a warrent and search the house. They don’t find any drugs at all, but they find a previously kidnapped child chained to a wall in the basement.
Even if that initial phone call proved to be an enemy of that person who just wanted to cause the person trouble, even if they know the person didnt do drugs, you better believe that person would STILL be busted for kidnapping and child abuse.
Just because the police might have gone in on false information, does not mean that the person will not be busted for other criminal activity they find, especially if it is really serious.
That seems to be the possible situation here. Boy does Texas have its hands full! Also keep in mind, if Texas finds there IS systematic child abuse going on, the feds CAN decide to raid ALL the other compounds in the US, because at that point, they WILL have probable cause.

Texas is so far out of line. How can what they’ve done be seen as a positive or legal event? I hope the families get their lives and freedoms restored.

Does anyone wonder why they did not take the actual ‘criminals’ out of the house, instead of the victims? Not to say that the mothers were right in endorsing this very archaeic and very illegal way of treating women/girls - but was removing 400+ children from everything they know and love a very bright idea? I haven’t heard anything that suggests that the children were in immediate danger of being beaten to death or anything. Would leaving them there, under supervision and taking the ‘child molesters’ out not have made more sense? Now they are going to put these children out into this sick world, into a foster care system that will likely result in them being raped and molested by strangers. That’s encouraging! Lets not be surprised when they become the next little nutcase kids seeking revenge for being picked on and called religious freaks. By now we should all know how that story ends. . .

With all due respect to our laws.And to our great free nation.And to
the problems that Texas may run into.And no matter how you slice it.
No Adult/Adults should be able for force 12 and 13 year old girl into
a wedding room to be violated by 50 year old me,”Period”
Now that “IS” the bottom line.We can not allow religous freedon to
be a legal path to a childs destruction and education.
David Bebeau
Springfield Missouri

The thing with this sect that I’ve always noticed (and I’m sure others have as well) is that they apparently don’t accept anyone of any race other than white. Whites are the only people who can obtain ultimate salvation, I guess. The way they dress, the exclusion…it’s all such a creepy throwback. I just find it ironic that a Black woman is the one who brought down this compound. I’m not saying she was racially motivated, but it is really curious.

The CPS spokeswoman in Texas said that though they hadn’t found “the Sarah” of the phone call they had found other Sarahs who were abused, married underage, and impregnated by their much older husband while they were still a minor. While the original phone call is probably a hoax, it had a good impact - more than 400 children taken out of a abusive, brain washing environment to eventually be put in normal environments where they will not be expected to be married at the “prophet’s” whim to be a baby making commodity. Rosa may have made that original phone call but she unwittingly helped a lot of young innocents in the process

Annie Kate
Birmingham AL

I am somewhat befuddled over the rage concerning polygamous marriages, when in essence, what is taking place is serial adultery, only all the women know that it is occurring. We do not hear this rage over adultery, yet under the law the legal and “spirit” marriages simply constitute adultery, which no longer is prosecuted under Texas Law. If the members of FLDS really wanted to get legal recognition for these wives, all they would have to do is legally marry the first wife, divorce her when the man decided a second wife was appropriate, and marry the second woman, and so one. I can think of men in the outside world who have had four wives without the outcry expressed here. It might even be argued that the FLDS system is at least more honest about the situation, here the wife is not the last to know.

While I do not agree with the FLDS way of life I do believe we are punishing the wrong people. If children are being abused why are we not arresting the people who did this. I would more fully agree with arresting all the parents and then sending the children to foster care then just punishing the children and doing nothing with the fathers and mothers who allow this way of life to be pushed on to their kids.

I think ATF got mud on their face. Prank call or not, you still trust but verify. Slopy police work.

You write as if there was some serious question as to whether Swinton made the phone calls. The details reported by the London Times five days ago don’t seem to leave any serious room for doubt. The Texas call was made on March 29th, by someone who said she was named Sara, but not made public for several days thereafter. According to the Times story, on March 30th an anti-polygamy activist in Colorado received a phone call from someone who claimed to be a just under sixteen year old in the FLDS–named Sara. That call was eventually traced to Swinton. Given those facts, I find it disturbing that mainline U.S. media, including CNN, continue to write as if there was some serious doubts as to whether the call was bogus.

Joe - I definitely agree with you. This is a really harmful precedent.

Barbara wrote:

“In some strange way, maybe it was divine intervention….You just need to be careful approaching this woman since she is not playing with a full deck she could really be dangerous.”

How could a tool of God be dangerous?

You’d think God would just arrange an actual call from inside the compound, instead of making things so complicated.

Anne wrote:

“Haven’t heard anything on any women that didn’t go back to the ranch.”

Draw the obvious conclusion from that.

A few weeks of “counseling” will no doubt convince them that the “modern world” is the place to be.

Charles Morse, Sr. wrote:

“I married a woman when she was 15 and I 19 years old. We have been together 48 years got 6 kids, 13 grandkids, 3 great grandkids. My mother was 25 years younger than my father and they were true to each other to death.”

It’s great to hear that. If I was religious, I’d say “God bless you.” I’m not, so I’ll just say congratulations.

Chris wrote:

“400 kids who had never been exposed to television, public schooling, etc….”

Which gives them an immeasurable advantage over other kids.

Being a Ward of The State Offers No Protection. It Guarantees a Life of Neglect and Abuse. I know from Experience.

How can a telephone call from an alleged troubled teenager lead directly to separating 400 children from their mothers and siblings? If there’s legitimate concern about underage sexual relations, then why not ask the group to voluntarily separate into male/female living arrangements while the investigation proceeds?

Even if you disagree with the FLDS beliefs, which most of us do, I find it ironic and disturbing that our legal system will fall all over itself to ensure a 13-year unwed mother in prison has the right to breast feed, but will rip a well cared for toddler from his underage mother if they suspect her husband might be too old. This sounds more like moral persecution than legal prosecution.

400 children are seperated from their parents and placed in foster care homes so far from their parents that visiting is impossible. All this is based on a troubled 33 year old woman’s phony phone calls to authorities posing as a 16-year-old who was being sexually abused. In summary, one mentally ill woman lied and 400 kids and their parents have to suffer. Where’s the ACLU? Which church/religion is next on Texas hit list? First Waco, then this. Where does it end!?!

By Theory Only….
The only thing they could have done better, is burning the place down when they left,… this would have perhaps make their fear of government more prominent than their fear of god.

Tis true that if they conclude that the phone number was not researched well enough to count as probable cause - if that happens, as I anticipate, this will Completely reverse the progress that the officers have made in this situation already. The religious nuts will have their kids back and will believe more strongly than ever in their line of thinking.

Indeed, if this gets reversed…. I can see this entire situation doing HUGE damage to the ability of the government to step into any church’s mis-managed affairs. Absolutely the government should have the right to step into church affairs! The separation of church and state exists for a damn good reason. It was, and still is, one of the great founding principles of the states.
PS, I’m not anti-religion, I’m Catholic, but that has nothing to do with my political views.

I’m not a Christian or a pedophile. I have no dog in this fight. But if Christ could be born to a 13 year old Mary, then why can’t these people practise their religion as they see fit? Statuatory rape varies from state to state, country to country. What is acceptable in one place is ‘abuse’ in another. It seems that this sect had grown to sufficient numbers to be a legitimate social construct. These children were ripped from loving homes in the interest of the state. If there are enough believers in this particular faith then they should have a right to practise it. I don’t really understand the Amish either, As an American, I don’t think it is my place to question their beleifs. As far as polygomy, I’ll admit to being a bit jealous. Ahh, but to be Hugh Hefner. In these enlightened times we stand up for gay rights but not for bi-sexual rights because it defacto involves multiple patners. What business is it of the state if people choose to have multiple partners other than the jealousy of the people passing laws to infringe on the rights of others?

The Amish are next !! And then the Seventh Day Adventists and the Jehovah’s Witneses…..

How ironic that this occurred as the President was greeting the Pope, who certainly qualifies under rthe RICO Act as the head of a “continuing criminal enterprise…”

“We despise all reverences and all the objects of reverence which are outside the pale of our own list of sacred things. And yet, with strange inconsistency, we are shocked when other people despise and defile the things which are holy to us.”—Mark Twain

Thrust into a culture that pressures young women to dress and behave like prostitutes, how can you think these kids will REALLY be that much better off outside the compound? …In foster care? …In Texas??

Breaking news: Young girls get brainwashed/peer pressured in the “real world”, too.

Britney. Paris. Girls Gone Wild. Easy access to drugs & alcohol…yeah, these kids are gonna be just fine.

Don’t be so smug and self-righteous, people.

why didn’t the state of texas just send the kids back to the ranch with their mothers with caseworkers/officers watching over them at the ranch until the few abused are weeded out so as not to punish everyone including the innocent I don’t agree with their religion or practices but foster care is not the answer.

K. wrote:

“Thrust into a culture that pressures young women to dress and behave like prostitutes, how can you think these kids will REALLY be that much better off outside the compound?”

Some people actually think that turning these kids on to TV is a good thing. Ugh.

I cancelled my cable TV subscription a few months ago and have never looked back.

Can someone please show me the supposed 12 and 13 year old pregnant girls you keep referring to?

Also, where are all of the “dangerous men”? The 50 and 60 year old men?????

All I see is a bunch of sad children and mothers whose lives are being destroyed.

OK, this is getting a little disgusting now. I just read that they found 25 MORE girls under 18 who are pregnant. Are they shipping guys in? If not, are these women all pregnant from a small group of men? When they start reporting DNA tests showing that first cousins are actually brothers and uncles are actually second cousins and other weird stuff - I am done reading. This is getting bizzare!!

Tuchman - after listening to 75 minutes of conversation with “Sara” - how would you explain the detailed information of where she was located and other specifics relative to the FLDS compound? Local police would have verified the information received. Or not. How would Swinton have compiled intimate knowledge of the sect’s behaviours? Were specific names mentioned? The connection between Swinton and events in Texas is “manna from heaven” for conspiracy theorists. Just the facts please.

Statusquo,

Read carefully. CPS is saying they are under 18, rather, and I quote:

Among them were 25 girls ***BELIEVED*** to be minors– all of them with children — who had previously claimed to be older than 18.

Ok, and we have the previous stories of CPS not believing the people, and even when they provided birth certificates (those that could) were initially denied. They don’t know, they have no proof, they are making wild claims at this point (and have been). Remember Nifong and the Duke lacrosse rape case? Remember Nifong keep coming out with claims, completely unfounded to bolster his case as it collapsed around him?

Seriously.. If you just took 400+ kids from their parents on a phony phone call, about a man who you knew (or should have if you had even bothered to talk to his PAROLE OFFICER) hadn’t even been there. What are you going to do say “oops, mea culpa.. no hard feelings?” When has a government official ever done that?

As for the ‘weird stuff’. Yeah, weird.. you bet. I bet you do some weird things too.. better hope no one ever does research into you and concocts a story just credible enough to have the police come knocking. Sure, you MAY get your kids back from CPS, eventually.. well you hope.

Who cares if the actual call was a hoax, at leat it gave the authorities a reason to check it out. Genalow Wilso, remember hin,j was given ten years in prison for having consensual sex with a girl one year younger than he, what makes these men exempt from prosecution?

Phony phone call or not, the fact that evidence of a possible crime was discovered during the raid is what really matters. If police are called out to a burglary and it’s not a burglary but instead a fire, do they just turn around and go back? It has been reported that they found underage girls who were pregnant. They found what appears to be marriage documents inside the temple showing underage girls married older men. The leader of their religion is convicted of being an accomplice to the rape of a 14 year old girl. I don’t understand how so many of you still have the opinion that these people should just be left alone. I’m glad Texas raided the compound. I’m glad that the children are separated from their parents. I agree the experience for the children is tragic, but I would rather see my fellow American be separated from their mother than see her married off to an older man at age 14 and begin having babies, perpetuating that cycle of abuse.
I hope that Texas is able to prosecute the men and women responsible for bigamy, for marrying young girls, for turning over their underage daughters for marriage, and raising sons who are indoctrinated into believing that it’s okay for them to marry and have sex with underage girls.These people are using their religion and isolation as a way to control and exploit each new life they bring into the world. I don’t want a government that just stands by and lets this happen. I want a government that puts a stop to it! God Bless Texas!
To make sure the children in my state are safe, I’m writing my Governor, State Senators, and State Assembly insisting that they pass anti-cult laws; laws requiring birth certificates, ssn’s, and legal guardians for each child born, and laws that make sure home-schooled programs are regulated and monitored.

I have watched over my adult life the erosion of peoples constitutional rights in exchange for “Big Brother” watching us for us. Its way over done and seems we have law enforcement in every aspect of our lives as “Free Americans”. I am fed up w/ law enforcement, and being baby sat as an adult quite frankly. Tip lines that need no verification, children being used as informants in American households against their own family members school teachers are now an extension of CPS and law enforcement…..America ? I recall where history showed another country that did the same things and America helped to defeat them only to become them? We incarcerate more than any other country….we do live in a Police State(s)….and I am glad that old age will take me because this American is fed up with the loss of a life style….living like a free American no more.

The raid was wrong, based upon unverified information. Arrest the criminals as they are discovered according to our Constitution, yes I would agree. But arbitrary information to raid American homes and take children in masses ? NO ! I can not and will not support a lie and Big Brother is one Big Liar.

Give the children back, that of which should not have been taken in the first place. This is Salem Mass all over again, imo, only the witches “might be criminals”…..

I find it extremely disturbing that these people’s civil rights have been excessively violated on such flimsy grounds; However, I lived in Texas for several years and it doesn’t surprise me because Texan’s seem to be a law unto themselves! I feel horribly sorry for these mothers and children and don’t see where it can possibly be helpful to place all these children in foster homes and expose them to all sorts of things them have been protected from. How many teenage girls get pregnant while attending public schools? How many incest cases would you find in any group of 500 children outside of the polygamist environment? I have worked for years as a mental health nurse with adolescents and I can’t believe we are doing what is in the best interests of these children to allow this to go on. At least 25 girls out of every 100 has been sexually abused by the time she is 18 and that is the most conservative estimate; that is in our broadstream American society.

Black Female Mormon, no one can show you the 12 and 13 year old pregnant girls because it would be against privacy laws. These girls are minors and for the state to release their pictures would be wrong.

And statusquo I agree this is disgusting. To convince girls that their way to salvation is to start having kids as an adolescent thereby breaking laws is just insane. I’m glad the state was able to act.

Of the now 460 children taken from the ranch how many were boys? Was the ratio of boys to girls what it should be? Some of the women who excaped seemed to hint that boy babies ‘died’ more often than they should have and that one of the reasons that Jeffs wanted to be in Texas was no birth or death certificates are required. Please find out. Bonny

Why are Ms Swinton‘s actions are being portrayed criminal,, false reporting? Polygamist compounds have existed in the United States for years, the government has knowledge of this and what have they done? These compounds are protected by public officials elected by people in the community that they live. This is not about religion, it is about the law. What is the first law on record addressing age of consensual sex, when, if ever has it been revised and by who. Why is the punishment for drug offenses harsher then that of a sex offender, Perhaps if sex offenders we treated like Terrorist they could be caught before the ground breaking ceremony of the new compound? If Ms Swinton is charged in any way regarding the call(s) what message is being sent to the next person who might want to help a child.

Why is it that the government is not requiring this sect to report it’s birth and death records. How can that be in America. I thought everyone is required to pay taxes. Does this group pay any taxes? Why aren’t there birth certificates and social security numbers for every child born. And where are they burying the dead. Someone could actually be born and died and the government would never know that they existed. What is going on here? Are there different standards for white groups in America. Someone needs to answer this questions and concerns that I have. Someone please enlighten me.

I think this if a very difficult situation. For one part, I do believe it is very wrong to force teenage girls into marriage and I am against polygamy, but for the other part, this is their culture and it should have some respect. To me, it was very wrong to seperate mothers from their children. I don’t think that the parents are completely responsible for allowing their children to be married off so young because it’s what they were also taught as children. On the other hand, I don’t think that this case should be left alone. There has to be a right solution that will satisfy everyone. Maybe allowing the women and children to return to the YRZ ranch as long as they want to and heavy observation be upon them to insure that women and children are not being abused and that no one especially minors are forced to marry anyone that they don’t want to. Hopefully the authorities will come up with a solution that will not have a bad affect on anyone, especially the children.

Black Female Mormon-

I think it’s in the new networks best interest NOT to broadcast the faces of 13 and 14 year olds, for legal and moral reasons.
My personal opinion, is that the men are hiding behind their women’s skirts because, if they showed their faces and opened their mouths, the whole country would realize what a bunch of perverts they are.
Besides, they want us to feel sorry for them. How better to do that than have the females cry and lament about their lost children? How sorry would we be for the 60 year old man who wants 10 year old Sally back because she’s gonna be his 7th wife 4 years from now.

Funny isn’t it.

The FLDS has NO AFRICAN AMERICAN PEOPLE in their sect, cult, whatever you want to call it. Soooooo, how is it possible for this CRAZY girl knew all that information about the location of the ranch to give to authorities for them to do this raid?

Polygamy is practices all over this country but some wives don’t know about their husbands other women and some do they just choose to not know. BUT these people are just sick. No way am I going to sleep with a man who is fifty yrs old, not in shape, has no money, and shares a home with other men. NOT ME!!!!!. I’ll wait for the trump