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April 22, 2008
Two Questions for the Obama Spin Machine on Pennsylvania Primary Day
Posted: 05:43 PM ET

Lanny J. Davis
Friend of Senator Hillary Clinton, and fundraiser for her presidential campaign

Two Questions for the Obama Spin Machine on Pennsylvania Primary Day:

1. Why downplay Obama’s chances to win Pennsylvania?

2. Why Is Obama is running even (actually losing 48%-46%) in…. get ready…..MASSACHUSETTS (!!!) (Senator Clinton Is Plus 15 Percent Over McCain in Same Poll)

To all readers of my blogs - those who agree, those who don’t, even those who just delete:

Please read the two reports below that were posted today, the day if the Pennsylvania primary before the returns are in - one by ABC News reporter and political editor, Jake Tapper; and another by a Boston Herald columnist and radio talk show host Michael Graham.

P.S. The answer to the two questions asked above is - Barack Obama currently shows serious weakness in the general election vs. John McCain in battleground states that Democrats must win to defeat Senator McCain in November (e.g., Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida) as compared to Senator Clinton.

That is a fact.

Thus: These two pieces are MUST READS for all superdelegates who want to defeat John McCain in the general election…and who know that this is not a race to decide student body president but President of the United States.

ABC’s Jake Tapper: Why Can’t Obama Win Pennsylvania?

Boston Herald’s Michael Graham: Fact is Obama’s risky; Even Mass. Democrats starting to take notice

104 Comments
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104 Comments
xtina, chicago IL   April 22nd, 2008 5:58 pm ET

why is cnn posting editorials by Presidential candidates’ campaign managers? Is cnn giving them free blog space in xchange for the campaigns spending money on cnn?

Sami   April 22nd, 2008 5:58 pm ET

Well It’s still early and Once Hillary drops out and loses the nomination, her voters will ultimately feel a need to jump onto Obama’s side. Obviously the votes between the two are split. Once Obama picks a Vice-President, it will help fill in any doubts in voters’ minds.

Debra Thomas   April 22nd, 2008 6:07 pm ET

I do not think Obama should not give up, he could win just like Clinton can win. What we as a nation should do is focus on the fact that we are in a ression and it is because of a Republican so why let McCain, finish what Bush started.
And it is funny that when ever the Clinton’s say something it is always down played and then you hear nothing else aboutl. But as soon as Obama say’s something it is played over and over. We need to work together and stop being like crabs.

Tammy   April 22nd, 2008 6:19 pm ET

Good points. And further proof that HRC should stay in this until the bitter end. I’m not even a Democrat. I’m for McCain. But let’s call fair, fair. Senator Clinton deserves to run until all voters have spoken. Obviously (much to the chagrin of Obama Fest lovers everywhere) she is still quite viable where it counts (big states where the Dems need to win in the General if they’re going to stand a shot against my personal fav, John McCain). Or the Dems could give this to Obama now. And we’ll be sure to think of you at the McCain inaugural parties in Washington in January with a hearty thanks for handing over the election once again.

Maritza   April 22nd, 2008 6:42 pm ET

Lanny,

Hillary is at her best when it’s down to the wire,to the many politically naive voters out there, Obama is not qualified on any level, he can’t hold his own on the issues,national security, domestic issues, foreign policy, now that is a scary one , do we really want this man sitting across the table from Iran? , tell me who your friends are and I’ll tell you who you are, there is beggining to be a common anti-american theme to this candidate, how reasonable could it be for a presidential candidate to be endorsed be a terrorist organization, no hidden agenda there? I support John McCain, for all of the right reasons national security, experience , leadership skills, I wish the best for Hillary Clinton she needs to stay the course, stay focused,thank you Lanny for your contribution. I saw you the other night on FOX with Sean Hannity.

Maritza

Maritza

Mr. J   April 22nd, 2008 6:57 pm ET

The more people learn about Mr Obama the less they like him. At least we know Hillary is a fighter. She has to stay in if we want a democrat in the whitehouse. Mr Obama doesn’t have a chance against the repubilcan machine let alone the 527’s. It’s time to get over the love affair with BO. We want a winner not a whiner.

Michael Southern California,   April 22nd, 2008 6:57 pm ET

I don’t understand why your reports concerning exit and other polls as well do not seem to take into consideration the obvious when you reports the results of those polls.

An example in the exit poll results that were reported today saying that 50 percent of Clinton voters in Penn. would rather vote for John Mc Cain than vote for Obama if he was a nominee only state’s the obvious that so many analyst and Clinton Supporter’s and analyst don’t want to admit, but the fact that they do not want to vote for a Black man as President which is very sad to say, but I feel that is the truth and the reason for those result’s and not because of Senator Obama’s policies or the things that have taken place during this election process.

Ruth   April 22nd, 2008 7:18 pm ET

How many of the states that Obama won, would he have won,if all the skeltons were out in the beginning?(Rev. Wright,bitter comments,Rezko etc) I will not vote for Obama, no matter what,even if Hilary were his running mate. He is truely a sheep in wolfs clothing,& it is coming to light everyday. The American people will not deliver a democratic president with Obama running.

Sheila   April 22nd, 2008 7:25 pm ET

Think about this: If Barak Obama still leads the nomination after the last primary, how about making Bill Clinton the vice-president running mate and let Hillary go on to be the Senate Majority leader? Win/Win??? (Is it allowed for a former president to run as a vice-president?)

Sharon Ohio   April 22nd, 2008 7:28 pm ET

1. Why downplay Obama’s chances to win Pennsylvania?
Obama has always played the woe is me card, downplaying the chances he is hoping to pick up some votes, having his supports work harder to drag a few more into the polls.

The reason he can not win the working voters is the people in Pa are realist, they see though him and see he is a phony. Pa is the melting pot of immigrants, his comment saying they did not like immigrants is the most absurd thing in history. Proud Immigrants on every corner.
Lets say Legal Immigrants.

He refused to “show” any Patriotism, flatly and for no good reason.

After so long of watching him, Condeming, putting down the Country and the President and every office in the government, It was time for more than words. Showed he has no respect, and he refuse to show and Patriotism or support for the government he wants to lead?

2. Why Is Obama is running even (actually losing 48%-46%) in…. get ready…..MASSACHUSETTS (!!!) (Senator Clinton Is Plus 15 Percent Over McCain in Same Poll).

Obama thinks he is Gods Gift, He beleives everyone buys into the hype. He is offering, That they are gullible and naive. Not So. People
Actually look for someone being realistic.

Dolly   April 22nd, 2008 7:33 pm ET

We need to wake up and smell the coffee. The senator from Illinois is outspending the Senator from new York and still cannot win. Senator Obama is not an electable candidate.

From where and from whom is his money flowing so voluminously that allows for him to spend so outrageously, a man who professes to cry out for the poor.

The senator from Illinois professes to have such a strong and unshakable faith. He made this an issue, completely by himself…with no help from anyone else. And yet on a Christian holiday , such as Easter, he was seen luxuriously vacationing in the islands with no hint of his previous profession of commitment to his faith.

He has through his own words proven himself to be deceitful, untrustworthy, elitist, arrogant, out of touch and either ignorant in the issues requiring his attention or deliberate hiding of his feelings concerning them, with no help from anyone else. Either way this is a very serious issue and spells disaster for the nation.

Senator Obama emulates the former president Clinton but there is no comparison. The former president raised the level of education in Arkansas, raised the median level of income for Arkansas citizens, raised awareness and support for children, women, and the poor.

Let us investigate the Senators’ from Illinois voting record.

The Senator from Illinois has done more to destroy the democratic party in 6 months than all democratic candidates have since it’s inception.

He is like a spoiled rich child crying for a new toy.
The presidency of the Untied States is not a toy. Neither is the United States a concert stage and even if it were, the senator is not a rock star, even though he appears to think he is.

He needs, for the good of the country, to drop out of this race. He is completely unelectable.

“Listen to your heart. Never stop listening.”
Henry Quick Bear, LAKOTA

Lt Webb   April 22nd, 2008 7:44 pm ET

The Areas mostly black will vote for Obama, because he’s black. Not because he is good for the country. Other areas will vote for the candidate who is best for the country and by they issues. That is why every one predicts Obama will win N. C. because they believe the Civil War is still alive in North Carolina. Sad to say but To True

Jim   April 22nd, 2008 7:48 pm ET

Lanny,

Mr. Obama’s fairy tale run for the Presidency cannot hold up against John McCain. If he is having a hard time beating Hillary, he will not win against a united Republican Party that stands behind John McCain the presumptive President of the United States.

Larry   April 22nd, 2008 7:55 pm ET

If Barack is getting the high-educated white-male vote along with 90+% of the African-American vote; are those 2 groups supporting Barack for the same reason(s)?

Perhaps that could be a refined exit poll study.

AJ   April 22nd, 2008 7:58 pm ET

There is no way I would vote for Obama…ever…even if it meant not voteing or voteing for McCain.

Obama does not have the experience to be President yet…Its like hireing a line lead to run a Fortune 500 mega-Corporation…It’d just be stupid to hire him for Americas most important position of leadership when he’s under qualified!

How can we trust Obama to make the right decisions for all Americans when he couldn’t make the right decision in his own church? He could have at any point in the last 20 yrs. done the right thing. Obama could have stood up and said…”This is racism” “This is anti-American remarks” but HE DIDN’T….He could have done the right thing but didn’t…..20 yrs. he chose to sit there and do nothing…Thats not my idea of CHANGE! If he in fact was someone who truelly believed in change he would have stood up in that church and made a positive change by speaking out against racist remarks by his own minister….But he didn’t! Change…hmmm,probobly not with Obama.

Friends with terrorists…..enough said there! TERRORISTS! Isn’t it terrorists attacks on 911 what got us into the wars with Afganistan and Iraq??? America does not need terrorist for friends and we deserve a President that doesn’t choose terrorists for friends!!!

Oh,and FYI…this statement is coming from an American who proudly turns to religion when times are hard for guidance and peace and who has pride in America and what it stands for…an American who believes in the Constitutional right to bear arms…

Phyllis   April 22nd, 2008 8:04 pm ET

Mildly interesting but rather flimsy evidence. I don’t think the superdelegates need to rely on Lanny’s supercilious advice.

I love watching Lanny alienate voters and delegates alike.

Diane Glasser   April 22nd, 2008 8:06 pm ET

It seems to me that the press is trying to sway the public to vote for Clinton and not Obama. There seems to be too much personal feelings added to the news. Why not just give the facts and stop deleting parts of candidate’s statements, and poor photo angles and let the public decide for themselves. I think the press should keep silent.

James McHann   April 22nd, 2008 8:32 pm ET

If white men do not vote for Clinton because she is a woman, they are called sexist. If whites do not vote for Obama because he is black, they are called racists. If blacks vote for Obama because he is black, why are they not called racists?

Ryan   April 22nd, 2008 8:43 pm ET

I 100% agree that HRC should fight til then end in this. To me it seems s though the Obama supporters within gov’t are trying to get her to pull out of the race before anything is decided on MI and FL. The media play the Obama camp is getting today is ridiculous just like every other day. I have heard 100x today, and Obama has conceded and left for Indiana, who cares. Can we let the votes come in. I am a HRC supporter and I am looking for a double digit win here and I hope she succeeds. HRC needs money and she needs SD’s. In order to make a play to them she has to pull this out. Obama seems to be at a disconnect with key democratic voters in regards to working class and women. It seems as though she is in it for the long haul and being that she has been down before, it seems as though the campaign is going to ride it for what its worth hopefully get some momentum going a little further before the 6th.

Rachel McDonald Fritz   April 22nd, 2008 8:47 pm ET

Watching your Pennsylvania Primary results. Where are the ‘paneled’ white people who support Obama? Not one. And so it goes.

Rachel McDonald

Michael   April 22nd, 2008 9:05 pm ET

Okay, alright….I want the Democracts to win this year, sooooo, I’ll now buckle from pressure. I’ll vote for a Obama/Hillary ticket ONLY if Obama is President and SHE is V.P. I can’t believe I have to listen to the name CLINTON again after her liar, cheater husband. Day, after day, after day, in 2001 I woke to my alarm clock with the media talking about Bill and his adulteress affairs. I’m sick of the Clinton’s and all that they stand for!!

Ryan   April 22nd, 2008 9:16 pm ET

SHE WINS….
Not a shock to a HRC supporter, but so it goes the campaign goes on, I could not be happier. The heart of the Dem’s party is the blue collar workers, women, and the elderly….If he cannot close the deal with them we face another Republican 4 yrs. It’s time for the HRC campaign to really go after Voters and Money. Beating him in PA with a great lead and while he spent 3-1 in ads, makes it that much sweeter.

tangerine   April 22nd, 2008 9:16 pm ET

CNN IS AFRAID OF HRC!!! The media is so afraid that she will turn on them and say everything is in Obamas favor, blah blah blah, that they can’t report the truth.

This is NOT a huge win for HRC. Wasn’t she about 25 points ahead a couple of months ago…. and now what, 8-10? If she has less of a lead now it is because people changed their minds. SHE LOST VOTES. How, how HOW is that momentum??

Carla Ontario Canada   April 22nd, 2008 9:23 pm ET

Congratulations to Hillary! She’s got the momentum to go all the way!!!

Lawrence   April 22nd, 2008 9:28 pm ET

North Carolina will be the final nail in Hillary’s coffin.

The point that noone is picking up on is that not only did Hillary lose support over this time, but the Democratic primaries are skewed in her favor. In the Democratic primaries, the break-down is about 60% female voters, versus an almost even split in the general elections. The primaries also skew a little more heavily toward older voters.

Barack’s demographics line up much better in the fall elections. He can get alot more of the independent male voters and will get alot more younger voters to show up.

Hillary’s edge in older voters would actually be taken away from her by John McCain in the general elections.

Annie Kate   April 22nd, 2008 9:43 pm ET

Obama outspent HRC by 2 or 3 to 1 in Pennsylvania but Clinton still won the state. She won another BIG state and got the working class, white men, the Catholics and a lot of the other important base voters. HRC has experience to be in the White House; Obama does not; McCain has more experience than the two Democrats together. In the general election the Democrats need the states that Hilliary has won to have a chance to win against McCain. HRC tonight at least looks more electable in the fall.

Annie Kate
Birmingham AL

Amy   April 22nd, 2008 9:58 pm ET

First-Obama is not black he is black and white so I am not sure why so many people choose to elect one race to refer to him.
Second- Clinton was married to a president-she was not running the country for those 8 years but she does make it sound like it.
“Experience factor does not wash” and thats a fact.
Third-Obama has the popular vote, and the delegate lead and that is the bottom line.
He is winning and the numbers are a fact.

Kathy from Avalon   April 22nd, 2008 10:01 pm ET

Most of the negitive spin regarding Obama has to do with people AROUND him, not the man himself. Then there is Clinton. She FORGOT that there really wasn’t sniper fire she had to dodge! WHAT??? She lied. She didn’t vote for the war. She was voting for our president to have leverage. WHAT? She voted for the war. She changes her opinion and her story and even her accent depending on who, when and where she is speaking. Obama’s story has not changed. His positions have remained constant. He has MORE legislative experience than Clinton and he will be the same age as Mr. Clinton was when he is elected president. If anyone wants to count Clinton’s time in the white house as experience, then she has already served her term. And yes, I pray to God that he is the one representing our country, sitting accross those tables, speaking with the heads of state in Iran, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and even Iraq. He has the inteligence, communication skills and integrity that Clinton does not.

Judi Smith   April 22nd, 2008 10:02 pm ET

I think one of the reasons that Hillary will win the presidency nomination with much less money spent than Obama spent is because many - many of her suporters are the poor and out of work due to lack of jobs. These are the people who need her the most and this is the reason that she will become our next GREAT president. Also she has Bill by her side, almost everyone loves Bill.

Ex fan   April 22nd, 2008 10:04 pm ET

Great articles Lanny…Thinking folks will see the light…now if only the media would. When one spends as much as B.O. did …it becomes obvious that recent news is causing a tidal turn.

Hillary has Brains, Beauty and Ballz….to be POTUS. We are on our way to having a female sitting in the White House, and one who can saddle up to the table with a pedigree in how to micro manage her job. Move over Boys…

Jean   April 22nd, 2008 10:12 pm ET

The typical spin from the media seems to always minimize any win that Hillary has. No matter what, they continue to illustrate only the most negative. This has been the most obvious bias that I’ve seen and did not expect from organizations like CNN but they are one of the worst. As another comment mentioned, the more people find out about Mr. Obama and the people he surrounds himself with, the more worried we should all be. If he is the nominee, then I’m 100% certain that this year which should have been a slam dunk for the Democrats, will go to the Republicans in the fall. He has become totally marginalized and clearly cannot, no matter all the high-flying promises, lead this country. He is also too radically left leaning for the majority of moderate minded Americans who are focused on moving this nation forward, and who do not want us to lose even more credibility on the world stage.

kathy   April 22nd, 2008 10:17 pm ET

Hillary is desperate and will try anything to keep from losing. Has it come to anyone’s attention thought that white republicans are voting for Hillary to keep Obama from winning because they do not want an African American president? If this is true she is up for a ruding awakening in the November election…no white republican votes, not small state votes (and maybe the larger ones she won earlier), and definitely not too many African American votes.

Timothy Thompson   April 22nd, 2008 10:17 pm ET

Put this one in your pipe and smoke it–if the democratic party gives Hilary Clinton the nomination after Obama leading then i feel no need to support the democratic party any further. Sounds like the independent route is for me.

Paul Warnow   April 22nd, 2008 10:33 pm ET

Is Hillary Clinton running for VP on the McCain ticket?

She’s destroying the Democratic Party and only helping McCain.

For Hillary Clinton to surpass Barack Obama in pledged delegates, she will have to win 63% of the votes and pledged delegates, in each and every state remaining.

And for each and every state going forward, that she fails to win 63%, she will have to win increasing %’s, in each and every state remaining.

At this time, it would take a miracle for Hillary Clinton to win 63% of the votes and pledged delegates in Pennsylvania.

And it would take a greater miracle, for her to win a majority of the votes and pledged delegates, in the remaining state primaries.

Consequently, her petty and divisive attacks against Barack Obama; are doing damage to her, Barack Obama, and the democratic party; and only helping John McCain.

Hillary Clinton should withdraw if she fails to win by at least 20% of the votes and pledged delegates in Pennsylvania.

Cynthia   April 22nd, 2008 10:36 pm ET

Lanny, as a Hilliary supporter you have known for some time that Senator Obama had previously stated that Senator Clinton would win Pennsylvania. I am sure you have seen or heard of the projection sheet of the 50 states . Their projections as written have come true (other than one that he projected for her to win and he won). The Clinton name is well known and based on that she should have already blown him out of the water a long time ago, but he is still there and is ahead in popular votes and delegates. He is the underdog and ahead without pulling out every dirty politic known to man. I don’t need pundits and newspaper reporters to tell me what to think.

Deb   April 22nd, 2008 10:55 pm ET

The democratic party needs to think about their future. I happen to believe that both Clinton and Obama are wonderful candidates and would be great Presidents. However, if one candidate wins the primary season, but the “super delegates” decide that the other one would be a stronger candidate, and therefore give the nomination to the candidate who is behind, then we will lose the White House in November.

If a political party is willing to alienate the majority of their voters, then they don’t deserve to win in November.

I will proudly support either of these two candidates who wins - but if one steals the election away from the voters - then I will not be able to support that candidacy. It would be very hard for me to see John McCain win - but it would be impossible to support a party that disregards it’s own voters, or to support a candidate who is willing to win without the support of the majority of the voters in their own party. The dishonesty of accepting such a nomination, while pretending to believe in democracy is untenable.

I don’t believe that the bitterness of this primary race will stop democrats from coming together against John McCain - I do believe that Democratic party leaders throwing the election to the candidate of their choice, overturning the will of the majority of voters in the Democratic primaries, will stop the democrats from coming together. This will not only put the white house at risk - but also the House and Senate. Any political party that decides their party insiders are more important than their voters will never get my vote again, at any level - local, state or national.

Maineac   April 22nd, 2008 11:25 pm ET

CNN, you just don’t get it! What’s Hillary’s demographic? White working middle aged men. Who does this demographic normally vote for? Republicans since Reagon at least. What’s Barack’s demographic? Blacks and young people. Who do they usually vote for? Democratic or not at all.

So what will happen if it is perceived that Hillary has “cheated” to get the nomination, inspite of loosing the popular vote and commited delegates? Half of her nominating demographic will support her, the rest will support the republican as they usually do. Most of the usual democrats will support her, but the young and black voters will either write in Barack Obama or stay home.

And what will happen if Barack wins the nomination? Most if not all of Hilliary’s nominating demographic will vote republican or stay home. Most of the usual democratic voters will support Barack. The young and black voters will turn out in dramatic numbers (as evidenced by the remarkable number voting in the primaries).

So who can win in November? Not Hillary!

j. conley   April 22nd, 2008 11:25 pm ET

Just a quick comment;./ Just remember; the win that H.Clinton rec’d was from mostly white voters. This is a representation of the same old status quo, This status quo will never give a person of color a fair opportunity.
The stakes are to big.

The media continue to bash,.she continue to bash and this type of negativeity is reconized in our country as politics as usual.

There’s no wonder why our country is going to hell. Look at the voters who are putting them in.

j. conley   April 22nd, 2008 11:28 pm ET

It’s a joke, if H.Clinton win most of the voters i know; will vote for J.McCan, because they are no different.

Jeff W.   April 22nd, 2008 11:28 pm ET

I’m a long time Republican planning to vote for Barak this election. But has nobody caught on to the genius of the current Republican machine? Use a well oiled “get out the vote machine” to register republicans in the Dems primary, and get behind Hillary. Worst case, prolong the primary and let H&O bloody each other longer. Best case, create a sub-text, trumpeted by Hillary’s campaign that she is more electable in swing states. Run the numbers. Subtract the votes of newly registered “democrats” in PA and see the actual margin. Turns out the race was a deadlock.

Poor Obama. Happy Republicans. Oh well, if its Hillary or McCain …. Mac is back. Genius.

Nelly   April 22nd, 2008 11:30 pm ET

Watching the commentators (aka exclusively Obama supporters) it was almost difficult to realize that Clinton actually won; good thing the graphics were behind the talking heads. Spin, spin, spin. Fortunately, Hillary made a great speech, which even left a few of them momentarily speechless. Why not just admit it for once; she is a great candidate who can overcome huge differences in spending and CNN/MSNBC media hype to win the confidence of this very important state. She could probably also win huge in Michigan and Florida in a fair fight, and will do well in many, if not most of the remaining states. She is the best candidate for 2008. CNN: get over yourselves and make like legitimate journalists for once.

B. Adams   April 22nd, 2008 11:34 pm ET

By how much should the “white woman” vote in PA be discounted? There seems to be a great desire to discount the “black” vote in states with a substantial black population. Shouldn’t we do the same in states with a substantial “white” population? Is there anything that might be of interest in how people are voting other than whether they are “black” or “white”? Or would that require these so-called political analysts to really provide political analysis? Why bother with Jim King and his board if his only contribution is to indicate where the population pockets are–urban/suburban, black/white. No analysis of the issues, no attempt to understand what drove the voting in any area. Quit “race-ing” the democratic process! Things really are more complicated than you apprehend.

tom   April 22nd, 2008 11:37 pm ET

Why does CNN give this political hack, Lanny Davis, a forum for discussion? I read his article the other day about the tide turning for Hillary several days ago when she went up one day in what he said he considered the only reliable poll, the Gallup Poll. By the time he posted his article Obama was back in front by 7% in the Gallup. Every time he is on TV, I make sure that the remote changes the channel very quickly.

Marvin Nichols (white man)   April 22nd, 2008 11:37 pm ET

First of all I am an OBAMA SUPPORTER. All the primary in Pennsylvania indicates, according to your polls, is that there are a lot of undereducated, racial, elitist, gun toting people in that state, He still leads in popular votes and in delegate count and there are many roads leading into Washington.

robbie   April 22nd, 2008 11:41 pm ET

observation from outside the usa…why are democrats (clinton camp) insinuating that John mcCain will do more damage to Obama than Clinton?..Is this admitting that McCain is more substantial than Clinton?..Interesting.
I have never seen a more negative campaign as the one run by Clinton. It smacks of the bigotry of Old School America…the good old days…

The world needs Obama to be the next President, if only the new america can get it right.
OBAMA for PRESIDENT

Allen   April 22nd, 2008 11:42 pm ET

I don’t know if anyone will ever see this but I have not yet seen my following concerns regarding Obama/Clinton in the General Election in November.
Yes, it is true Obama is ahead in states won and in popular vote but this concerns me and seems to make sense: Obama has yet to win a large state; Clinton has won California, Texas, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, etc. Now if those states hold true at all in November for the Democrats where it is All or Nothing for Electoral Votes, the number of those votes which determine who becomes President becomes huge.
Obama may have won many more of the tiny states but these also have a fraction of the electoral votes that the large states have.
I guess my point is that who has the majority of votes and the number of states IS OF NO IMPORTANCE relative to Electoral College votes.

Juanita   April 22nd, 2008 11:46 pm ET

I fail to understand why there is so much emphasis by the media on the African American vote. Is there any state in the nation where African-Americans outnumber whites? I think not! The media seems to forget about the racial make-up of Iowa and other states where the Black population is miniscule.

Sally Saffer   April 22nd, 2008 11:47 pm ET

Question:

In the past many staunch Republicans have actually admitted they voted in a Democratic primary for Hillary Clinton because they believed the Republican candidate would be able to beat her in November. Then, there were the large number of Republicans who registered as Democrats to vote in Pennsylvania’s primary. I can’t believe they all suddenly fell in love with her and became true Democrats, so why haven’t I heard anyone suggest this may explain Clinton’s “wider than expected” margin of 10 points? Please discuss on your show or ask someone else to address it. Thanks.

Kurian   April 22nd, 2008 11:56 pm ET

The world is watching! CNN needs to show the world that the Americans are not divided by race. They are not doing a good job of it by having their own African American commendator backing Barack Obama and their white commendator supporting Hillary Clinton. This could be a media circus, but does looks bad, especially when it is coming from the educated folks at CNN. It is time to rise above it!

Laurie   April 22nd, 2008 11:58 pm ET

Anderson, I don’t want to answer question posed. I have to comment Jeffrey’s comment. as so incorrect. I think journalist and more so pundits should be very knowledgable about history. It’s so annoying when they are not and don’t bring history into their response to make it more informed.

But the bottom line is that both Clinton and Obama need to be on the same ticket. Neither one can choose another vice president when both have not won the elected delegate count and their numbers are too close—49% to 47%. Neither can be left off the ticket with those numbers. And that’s the bottom line.

Teri Rosa   April 23rd, 2008 12:05 am ET

There is no better reporting to be found than on CNN. I just want to let you all know that the discussions about Hillary supporters not supporting the party in the event she should lose the nomination is foolish. The Democratic Party has failed the populous but in this next election, the populous will not fail the party.
Obama is a great candidate who is likely to win this race not because he is a better candidate. His policies are not that different than hers. I am a Clinton supporter and the fact that the super hero deligates have not fallen over themselves to declare themselves for Obama is indicative that there is still something to be seen in this fight.
The purpose of the convention is to have the candidates for the nomination voted in to represent the party in a general election. This is what true politics is all about…going to the end. If analysts are tired and want this thing over so that they can have a weekend off until the convention they should have chosen another line of work. This is not watching paint dry folks! This is the most exciting time in politics ever. Ride the wave because you will not see this again in your careers.
If Obama is worthy of the vote then let him go to the finish line! Don’t condemn Clinton for making him “run” the race. The only thing more divisive is the poltical analyst declaring that this process is harmful to the party. That is bogus and you know it.
We try to get so finite as to who is voting for whom and quite frankly that is more divisive than any fighting happening within the party. If you can’t take the junk that your fellow dem is throwing at you, just what will you do when the other side starts flinging the mud?
Let them go to the end and support the process!!!
YES…Hillary dos have a shot. Let her take it.

La Sharon   April 23rd, 2008 12:14 am ET

I would like to know why everyone keeps concentrating on Rev. Wright and not on John Hagee? And why would Hillary bring up Louis Farrakhan when her own campaign adviser Ed Rendell is shown on You Tube thanking Farrakhan for being such a great man and great contributor and asset to Philadelphia?

Everyone, including the Clintons, keep saying that Obama can’t take the heat when in fact she is the one who started whining that the media was being unfair to her. Ever since, the media working as her puppets have continued to show and repeat the stories about the small town comments he made and his former pastor. They only mentioned, half-heartedly, the Bosnia nonsense, the story Clinton got wrong about the pregnant lady who died, & the other scandals she was involved in during her husband’s administration.

And you are right, this is not a school president election so as Obama said let’s get on with discussing what’s best for the country. This is our future. This is not about who is best known, the longest in the spotlight, who is more patriotic because he was once a POW (and yes he gets my respect for that), and she said he said.

La Sharon   April 23rd, 2008 12:27 am ET

Can we please given African Americans more credit. We have come way too far for this at least I thought we had as a country. African Americans are not voting for Obama just because he is black. As a matter of fact, he is bi-racial. African Americans are voting for him because he is the candidate that we need to make a “real” not imagined change to politics as usual. There are other races voting for him in droves as well. Explain that away. I don’t care what color he is. I would vote for him because he does identify with the needs of the people. Please stop putting people in categories as the media does…whites, blacks, hispanics, immigrants, older voters, Catholics, blue collar, young, etc. Please go to all of the candidates web sites and get all the facts and make a truly informed decision about what’s best for you and this country. All of these personal attacks are non-productive, sometimes unproven, petty, and ridiculous.

Paige   April 23rd, 2008 12:28 am ET

Obama and Edwards would be the true “dream ticket”
that would set John Kings - IRB ( instant results board) or what ever he calls it on fire

? why do the blue collar voters like Hillary so much?

Bernice David   April 23rd, 2008 12:35 am ET

I used to be a big fan of Hillary Clinton, and now I am scared. The politics have been nasty, and I mean really nasty. The main conversation in cocktail party conversations with professional peers, is that we cannot believe that this is the Hillary Clinton that we once believed that we knew. Disappointment about this election is running rampid in our communities. Do not take this lightly. My son has just made a decision to enlist in the military. Will I be faced with a continuance of the Bush administration with McCain in office, or can Clinton deliver in her promise to begin moving troops out of Iraq within 60 days of her presidency. Democrats don’t know which way to vote. Hillary has been too inconsisent. It is felt that Obama is “green” on some issues. But he represents something that people need right now. People say that he lacks experience. But, there is something about him that the youth and progressive folks are drawn to. We need a real change. Just think about it for a minute. If it is Clinton or McCain, just think how many terms either administration has been in office. Many of us think that if Obama is the democratic nominee, perhaps someone like Biden or Edwards would be a good running mate. Are people really paying attention. The majority believes that Obama has tried to be as soft as possible in his attacks, and that Hillary has been vicious. How can they be running mates after this? This has got to stop.

no to obama   April 23rd, 2008 12:40 am ET

Sami…………you are wrong. Clinton supporters will never support obama. I will vote for McCain because I know he will be better for this country than obama. Don’t you understand we do not like obama and more important, we do not trust this man. And his wife has absolutely no business going near our White House. NEVER obama.

Linda Ruhlman   April 23rd, 2008 12:45 am ET

Hey! wake up - I come from a Steel Mill family - My parents were raised in Pittsburgh and I was raised in Youngstown, Ohio. Have you been to these places lately? I see high unemployment -families loosing medical care and jobs. We are not fooled by eloquent speaking or words. We see a sheep and wolfs clothing. When the going gets tough the tough get going. I am a independent voter - I am leaning towards Hillary because she hasn’t given up. We are hard working American people proud of our flag our soldiers and our county those that try to down play us that we are just the working poor beware - we are more powerful than you think. There are 6 members in my family and 3 of the 6 family members are out of work. We can’t donate to campaigns and promises we CAN vote for who can change the future. Oh, by the way we have college degrees and student loans and mortgages!

Mike   April 23rd, 2008 12:49 am ET

What a bogus “story”! Obama Spin Machine? Another figment of Hillary’s overactive, sniper-filled imagination. No machine is bigger and spins harder than the Clinton’s spin machine.

Face it, IF Obama was trailing in every category like Clinton IS, she, Bill and CNN would be calling for his departure…. and a long time ago! A couple months ago she needed to win remaining states by 65 to 35 margins. Now a 10 point win in her tailor made demographic means she’s somehow in this thing?? Her only hope is to throw mud and hope super delegates reverse the voting publics decision?

I used to think CNN meant news but the bias is ridiculous.

J. Georgino   April 23rd, 2008 1:02 am ET

Thank heavens Sen Clinton took my home state of PA!

The truth is that Obama is all talk and no action. He was unbelievably horrible in the debate last week, but the media acted like they watched something I certainly did not. When did the Am media machine decide Obama should win? He lied about never hearing his minister talk that way over 20 yrs!!??? Excuse me? who is slated to be the idiot here in this play on rhetoric?

And as for a “pundit” of CNN tonight stating that Obama’s “folks” would support Hillary, but not vice versa, I have heard just the exact opposite in Atlanta. What in the world does she know? She has always stated she would support him and he has deterred from saying the same….something like only taking public funds promise and now not wanting to.

Only Sen Clinton has the hoozpa to beat McCain and the sooner the Dem superdelegates understand that herein lies the ultimate goal. the better for the party and America.

Julia   April 23rd, 2008 1:05 am ET

Hillary Clinton is so totally lacking in charisma, it’s almost hard to fathom. And I truly believe that’s the reason why people harbor such an irrational hatred of her. She is not personable. They can’t stand her voice. She appears cold. Barack Obama (who I also like, though not as much) seems to me like a (not that young) guy in a big hurry. What’s the hurry? Both are good candidates, but I think that Hillary is infinitely better qualified for the job at this time. I do not think that Obama is up to what the republican attack machine is going to dish out and she is. What I don’t get is why people keep blaming Hillary for the division among Democrats? Why don’t they equally blame Obama? What’s Hillary supposed to do–just lie down and die because Obama decided he wants to be president?

Lin   April 23rd, 2008 1:13 am ET

I’ve always believed Hillary has a much better chance of winning against McCain in the general election. That’s easy to see!

Lora   April 23rd, 2008 1:13 am ET

I think its a really sad day in our country. We still cant get pass race. I know everyone especially white folk and some token blacks will say different. But why is all the news channels cnn and the others treat Hillary like she is the front runner. why is it that since obama did not win pennsylvania it all of a sudden means he should get out of the race. All the attention is going to Hillary. She is still losing folks. The only thing her winning did is prolong and already decided primary if the powers that be follows the rules. But i as an african american have seen too many time the powers that be (white folk) take what they want and do what they want.
Hillary is negative she has lied repeadtley and shrugged it off like it was nothing. As for me i dont want that kind of mindset in washington its been there too long and it needs to change but as an african american i am very discouraged and i think alot of other african americans will be too. I think that if the superdelegates give it to hillary any way even though she does not have the most delegates the most popular votes we will see a very apethetic community amongst the african american population. they wont vote for mccain but they wont vote for hillary either theyll stay home. but it will seem like more of the same wether we get hillary or mccain. I used to like hillary i used to trust the clintons but their campaining and their tactiics make them seem just like the republicans. So it really doesnt matter who would win.
Myself personally if hillary wins the nomination which seems to be what the news stations want to push for she’ll lose to the republicans cause she has a whole lot of junk in her trunk that came out during the primaries. Obama did not cease on them cause hes wanted to run a clean campaign no matter how much people say he has he has not.

Jerry from Oregon   April 23rd, 2008 1:14 am ET

why does Hillary cotinue to insult everyone’s intelligence and even her own popularity among democrats by insisting that Obama can’t win big states in the general election because seh won the primaries?

like many democrats all over the country, I used to be a Republican until 2 months ago. I changed parties to support Barack Obama in the primaries.

yes, Hillary has won most of the bigger states in the primaries. but what fool thinks Obama won’t win California or New York in the general? But Obama has won some of the ‘big’ states in the primaries, he won Illinois by a landslide, and he won in Texas( he got more delegates anyway)

He has also won some of the other states Democrats have to win in November such as bell-weather Missouri.

He might have won the other, bigger bellweather, Ohio; if Clinton hadn’t lied through her teeth about her support of Nafta.

Hillary should stay in the race until June, but she has to stop the negative campaigning!(she won’t, but we can hope she’ll try not to destroy her own party) She also needs to stick to her vow to do everything she can to see that a Democrat wins in November, especially once Obama is the official nominee. she needs to try to reconcile her supporters to Obama’s ticket

Student   April 23rd, 2008 1:14 am ET

I think Obama is being faithful to his central message which is to run a different campain without as much negativities as it is known about politicians in the past. Especially, he cannot be as negative with his fellow democrat as she is being. That makes the difference. She is running a politic of fear and negative ad, and it seems to be paying off. But we will see.

Trevor Marwood   April 23rd, 2008 1:16 am ET

Obama supporters want HRC to capitulate before M.& F. have there say.Why should she?I believe that the public are eventually seeing through BO and his shallowness.He as achieved his present position by first wrapping up the black votes in many states and also allowing his rottweilers to attack the caucus unrepresentatives in the meeting.Dean and the Democratic higher archy have a lot to answer for.If they had crowned HRC as P and BO as VP at the start which BO would have accepted at that time they could have gone through the primeries as a run up to the real thing gaining unified support for the Democrats not to mention a possible 16 year potential presidency.It reminds you why Dean did not get the presidency.

jill   April 23rd, 2008 1:19 am ET

Frankly after 50 years plus observing and sometimes engaging in politics I would have been shocked if Hillary had not won Pennsylvania. She should have done even better in Pennsylvania than she did in Ohio. In Pennsylvania she had both more backing and she was a ‘favorite daughter”. And unlike in the Western States there are very strong political machines that backed her. Whether she would win was never a question as far as I could see.

But even though Hillary seems to do well the mistake she has already made is to make such a big deal of Commander in Cheif when she cannot top McCain on that issue. Its on tape and then there is Bosnia as well. . That really does her in against a prisoner of War and real Officer. if she were running against Guilliani it would not be as bad, but against McCain? Talk about swift boat, she swift boated herself for a very short term gain if it was one.

Darryl   April 23rd, 2008 1:29 am ET

When is enough…enough already! Clinton can’t win where it really counts and that is in the delegate count. It’s time to stop this crazy process and move on to preparing for the general election. Split the rest of the primaries evenly and let the super delegates make up their minds now. I like Clinton, but sorry Hillary…Obama has won.

Walt Sims Jr.   April 23rd, 2008 1:36 am ET

I have lived in Pittsburgh Pennsylvania for more than half a century. Your team of professionals seem to be skipping all around the real reason that Barack Obama could not win in Pennsylvania. You yourself say that he could not close the deal inspite the 3-1 difference in spending. Do you know that Pittsburgh is known to African Americans that live here as “Pittsburgh Mississippi?” There is a strong racial barrier in Pennsylvania that would prevent Jesus Christ himself from winning a primary here should he appear as a black man. There is no amount of money spent that could change the minds of the hard core racists with their very old money and the influence on their youth. Address this issue on your show and your listeners will have come closer to the truth.

Will   April 23rd, 2008 1:46 am ET

Two questions for Lanny:

1. What does “Why Is Obama is running” mean?

and

2. Considering that Hillary is 10M in the hole in campaign funds right now and you’ve been selected for fundraising efforts, shouldn’t you be spending your time more wisely raising capital to keep this campaign going?

Rich Graves   April 23rd, 2008 1:49 am ET

What is this? did all the peeps in Hillarys campaign HQ get around a computer and type in comments? They are so one sided, they are not believable.

Linda J   April 23rd, 2008 1:52 am ET

It seems the media is trying its best NOT to answer the daunting question … “Why is the wife of a popular 2-term president with ‘35 years of experience’ losing her pants to a relatively unknown african american first term senator with big ears and a funny name?”

Winning a few “big states” is not good enough for a former first lady whose been primed and positioned since “day one”.

Eddie, CA   April 23rd, 2008 1:56 am ET

I don’t think there has to be any spin for why Obama lost in PA. He just lost. There is no way to spin it. The interesting fact is that Hillary has won all of the “battleground” states (the ones that are supposedly going to help her beat McCain) and she is still losing to Obama. That speaks volumes. If she has won those states and can’t defeat the “inexperienced” Obama, what is she going to do against the Republicans and their machine that is proported to be so formidable? She has these “35″ years experience (most shared or piggy backed)…but that aside, and with her being a known quantity, she still can’t seem to catch Obama. The simple truth is that she has won the larger states, many of which tend to lean Democratic anyway, and is still losing. She has to take care of her Democratic rival before talking about McCain. Obama has put enough distance between himself and her delegate-wise and she can’t overcome that. After winning PA, she has only netted 6 delegates. SIX DELEGATES!!! Where was this huge win? She wins two states and she has momentum? What happened to Obama’s 10 states? Have we forgotten those? There aren’t enough delegates remaining for her to close the gap if she ran the table (with the proportional assigment of delegates). If she loses in NC, Oregon and Kentucky, she is toast.

I don’t dislike Hillary but hear that she should be the nominee because of her age makes me sick. Using that argument, they both should step aside for McCain…God help us all! Hillary has to be careful because the very arguments she is leveraging to say she is ready and should be the nominee can and will be used against her. Her baggage?…Clinton…simple as that. She is no better ready than Obama. The only person who has the experience to be a President and knows what the challenges are going to be “day one” is a second term President.

Michelle   April 23rd, 2008 2:00 am ET

I am also wondering why a Clinton campaign manager is posting on a CNN blog. And….good point Rachel…why are Obama supporters on news panels usually black? I’m sure their are some white panelists out there to even out the pro Obama ethnic mix on CNN.

I also agree this is not a big win for Hillary. Obama made significant inroads by closing a 20 + point gap. And remember, Obama is holding his own against several fronts he will not have to face when he runs against McCain…(we hope)…namely the Clinton clan (a previous President) and the Billiryocrats. The fact that Hillary isn’t beating Obama to a pulp with that kind of punch is testiment to his loyal, popular support base and evidence his message is being heard loud and clear. Don’t let this be just another election where we end up being sorry we voted for the candidate who manipulated a win.

Demetrius   April 23rd, 2008 2:05 am ET

All Hillary has learned from her years in Washington DC is how to play the game of dirty politics. (We see that she will do and say ANYTHING to advance her political ambitions.) I am SO tired of dirty politics. If the game isn’t changing I’m going to go back to apathy.

Tiger   April 23rd, 2008 2:07 am ET

I think it’s time for Sen. Obama to step back and let the country move forward. He has tried with inspiring speeches, bringing in a lot of money from donations, and yet he is not able to get the votes required from BIG states. What does that indicate? It indicates that voters do not trust him, his talk, his promises are just empty. He also needs to find advisors or surrogates that have something positive to say. They have nothing new, they say the same thing on every news show each and every day. Gets annoying.
As for CNN, they need to get new panels or pick out the ones that actually make some sense. They also keep repeating the same old stuff. Tonight they looked stumped by the victory margin. You know why they were stumped?. It is because they are also caught up in the inspiring speeches and forget that the voters make up their own mind and do not tell the panel. Also, I enjoy the discussions of the panel who present a view, not what they want. If they are true CNN contributors, then they should present a general view of the country rather than their OWN, so annoying.

Thomas   April 23rd, 2008 2:12 am ET

From my tally, if the Dems had winner take all primaries like the Republicans, Clinton would lead Obama 240-191 after her win in PA. This does NOT count FL or MI. If you give her FL, her lead jumps to 267-191, and if you give her MI, she wins 284-191 (271 needed to win). I am surprise more have not made note of this fact.

Lashanda   April 23rd, 2008 2:38 am ET

Mr. Obama needs to back out and continue to campaign for Hillary Clinton for President. She is clearly a better alternative. There are too many of us that believe that ONLY HER can win over Republicans. SHE WILL WIN if we give her a chance. Please, Mr. Obama, don’t listen anymore to your campaign people who wants to make their money by keeping you in a campaign that destroys Democratic party’s chances to win in November. Mr. OBAMA, BACK OUT!!!!!!

Ray Melnik   April 23rd, 2008 3:47 am ET

Clinton is my Senator and for the last 2 elections I pulled all my local levers and refused to pull hers. What she has done lately concretes even more my opinion of her and now her husband as well. She will do anything to win including hand the election to McCain in the fall by creating his commercials against Obama for him. Never before have I seen such vile and negative attacks from a Democrat against a Democrat. I am going next to donate to Obama’s campaign for the 8th time. If the tables were turned, Obama would have dropped out for the good of the party. If the party hands the nomination to Clinton after all our donations and efforts it will destroy the Democratic Party without a doubt. She has no chance of winning fairly and from the will of the people, so conniving, deceiving and promoting the politics of fear as the Republicans have made into an art form is the only way she will win. If that happens, Election Day I will be staying home, as will all of the new mobilized voters.

Crispus   April 23rd, 2008 4:18 am ET

HRC won by 8 points tonight not 10, she is delaying the inevitable. Also if you want to know what the GOP could use against her in the GE just look at her bio in Wikipedia.

mark   April 23rd, 2008 5:11 am ET

Hi Gang..
Tokyo checking in…question from my Japanese staffers…

If Obama is ahead in delegates..and super delegates have been elected to vote for him, and these are the rules..how can you change the rules in the middle of the game…wont american be upset?

So, you see, its pretty black and white to the outsiders.

William C. White   April 23rd, 2008 5:21 am ET

I keep hearing about the race card with Obama my question what about the race issue with Hillary if Hillary was not a white women running against a black man I believe this would not be an issue. So lets except that Hillary race has a lot to do with her victory. If she was running against a white male with Obama ability and popularity Hillary would be out of the picture. Also I am an African American and I have to say I take offense to you describing the African American community as the black community while in the rural areas in majority white communities are called blue collar workers, last I checked most African Americans are blue collar workers not white collar or do we not count. And to stay on the same issue the evangelical base being considered a republican white group there is a high number of blacks that are Christians that are Democrats what we are considered to count as a Christian based society. It is sad that the only way you can describe us is black or African American we have more to describe us than just by our race.

Mel Stricker   April 23rd, 2008 5:56 am ET

Can anyone say “1968 Chicago, Democratic Convention”. I am old enough to remember the self destructive nature of this party and the unbelievable scenes on TV. Granted the mayor of that city did his best to screw things up outside but the party did the same inside (even attacking reporters).
Then the war was Vietnam but the seated president was a Democrat and the country was a mess. I am looking forward to the drama that unfolds in Denver.
For those of you who remember and for those that are too young, a Republican won, I thing it was Nix.. something or other.
Be afraid be very afraid!!!!!

Dan W   April 23rd, 2008 6:12 am ET

I really don’t know why the Deocrats want Hillary to get the nomination. The democrats really need a lesson in history when it comes to the general election - remember Gerlidine Ferrero and Walter Mondale. The counrty was not ready then for a woman VP, and it still feels like we are not ready for a woman president. However, if you really want to give the general election away to McCain, then nominate Clinton. Remember she has two strikes against her, first she isa woman, second she is a Clinton. In short nominate hillary and the party has no chance of winning> Nominate Obama, the party has at least a fighting chance.

Marie   April 23rd, 2008 6:51 am ET

I will be writing in Hillary’s name on my election ballot. But if Mr. Obama wins then I hope all those that voted for him will remember their vote and take responsibility for that vote. As all who voted for Bush in 2000 and 2004 should remember that they voted for the man. The man who thinks we are in an “economic slowdown” not a recession.

Do the people supporting Obama even know what his policies will be? It is not enough to run on “hope” — that is really the old politics - ever president runs on hope” George Bush ran as a political outsider and he was going to bring hopd and change.

I am 86 years old and have seen a lot of elections. But if the young people want Obama they must take the responsiblity — that is what comes with freedom. Just as the people who voted for Bush shoul have had their children enter Military Service.

Bev Tn of Tonawanda NY   April 23rd, 2008 7:16 am ET

Sour grapes as usual from the Obama supporters. Deep down they’re scared as heck. Funny how Obama can’t win the “big” states. Yes, he’s taken the smaller states, but he is NOT winning the under $55,00 wage earners. If all the younger people were not voting for him in droves, he wouldn’t be where he is. And as usual, from the vitriol about Hillary everyday in these blogs, there are those who are STILL basing their opinions on the right wing nuts’ 15+ years of Hillary bashing. Like I have said before - a powerful, aggressive, smart woman is FEARED by many men (and some women). That’s what I want in my President - not the Alfred E. Neuman who’s in the White House now, or an INEXPERIENCED, several weeks only in the Senate before he decided to run, Senator.

aliou salam FL   April 23rd, 2008 7:47 am ET

what happened to the establishment donors?

Isn’t this the first lady of this country with a lot of money to spend and who said in the begining that Obama couldn’t raise the money?

Now she is whinning that he has outspent her? Get a grip

Keep hoping. … I mispoke… You don’t like hope.

karla   April 23rd, 2008 8:18 am ET

Exactly tangerine.

Why is HRC still running when she cannot win a majority of the delegates or popular vote?

Why are Americans voting for her in the worst economic times in recent history when she cannot even manage her campaign’s finances?

Why are Americans voting for her when the largest organization she has ever run, her campaign, is a disaster filled with in-fighting according to the NY Times among others?

Why are Americans voting for a woman more Hawkish than Dubya who wants to obliterate Iran… a country with 65 million real live people? It’s not like our Iraq experience has gone well… and the Iran-Iraq war was a draw.

Why are so many people who actually worked with the Clintons supporting Obama? That, to me, is very telling.

Obama did better than expected in HRC’s homestate… even after all of her Rovian tactics.

Obama has had one of the best managed campaigns in recent memory… raises more money… manages it better… and would manage the country better as well.

L Daniel, Lovanville, Ga.   April 23rd, 2008 8:51 am ET

Congrats Sen. Clinton, Operation Chaos was a success I guess…PA got it wrong tonight…We need a change in this country from the old politics. THis country is in trouble and we are playing games. Wake up America before it’s too late.

OBAMA ‘08

Laura   April 23rd, 2008 8:53 am ET

It is clear that Hillary should be the nominee. They are always bringing up this Bosnia thing that she told a little fib about. How about wshen OB stood right there on CNN and told them that he never had heard his preacher talk like that and then later changed his tone and said that he had but didn’t agree. This man scares me to death, I hope and pray that Hillary get the nominee.

Taipan   April 23rd, 2008 9:21 am ET

I have listened to the Dem Candidates give their speeches. Obama has repeatedly said he would sit with the enemy and hash out their differences (paraphrased) , however, he criticised Pres Carter for speaking to Hamas. Why is Sen Obama negating what he has been saying, repeatedly, on the campaigne? Can the American people truly believe what he says? Does he speak from both sides of his mouth?
Hey Sen. Obama, ” open mouth wide , place foot in open mouth .”

A.Michael N.Y   April 23rd, 2008 9:22 am ET

OK, let me gess: all indications are that She will NOT win the contest given the number of States left. The idea now is that she will go to the super delegates and convince them that although she didn’t win, she MUST get the nomination? On what basis? Sniper fire in Bosnia? Just let them do that and I will be at J McCain’s Victory celebration; and the Dems will stay out of the White House for the next two decades, because I don’t believe that the American voters want to see their victory overturned by this type of tactics. Barak said it: she can only survive by this type of tactics: Kitchen sinking and knee capping! Have you noticed that even when she invents stories like Bosnia, CNN and the likes close their eyes but when the unconventional B. Obama(or his preacher or his house maid or his barber or simply his neighbor) says something, ANYTHING, it becomes an issue AGINST HIM? If she doesn’t win by the rules and still is GIVEN the nomination, she better NOT count on Obama’s supporters to continue her deceptive game. That’s crystal clear!!!

KC, Texas   April 23rd, 2008 9:54 am ET

Go Hillary! Hillary is the ONLY chance that dems have of beating McCain in November. The ONLY chance.

I don’t like any of them. I am beginning to think that we as a nation are heading down a tube to the pooper. No one is listening to the people that made this country great. And it ISN’T the politicians that made America great. It is the hard enduring work of every man and woman of ANY color that built this nation. Now we are being silently killed by the government’s alliances with oil and money. America needs to stand up and shout from the tops of our lungs: ENOUGH! Change only happens when people get throughly fed up with getting shafted and do take that stand to shout!

Get your voice back America! Read the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence…we are being railroaded. Because we are not SHOUTING loud enough. Which one of these candidates will have enough cojones to listen?! We are tired of speeches and empty promises….ENOUGH! We need a fighter for the people in the White House. Not a lap dog.

Mike in NYC   April 23rd, 2008 10:53 am ET

Larry wrote:

“If Barack is getting the high-educated white-male vote along with 90+% of the African-American vote; are those 2 groups supporting Barack for the same reason(s)?”

No, they’re not.

Highly-educated whites tend to live in overwhelmingly white areas, so racial tension is non-existent, or at least irrelevant. Combine this with BO’s edge among male Democrats, and there you have it.

Where I live, race is far from irrelevant. That’s why HRC won big here.

Duane Ohio   April 23rd, 2008 11:01 am ET

Obama was never going to win Pennsylvania. His goal was to keep it close. He did the best job possible. It is true he outspent Hillary, but she was still favored to win. From the looks of the results, the minds of voters were made up long before the primary. This is no different than other states where Obama was heavily favored over Clinton; Clinton did the best she could in those states, but still was not able to make a dent. And Obama won those states convincingly.

While we have celebrated the 40 year death of Dr. King’s assassination and his contributions to the Civil Rights Movement, this Democratic race has served as a silent reminder that we are far from the end of race relations in the United States. The proof is in the exit polling.

I am reading arguments on both sides. My question is why are we doubting our party’s ability to unite against the Republican Party and John McCain irrespective of the candidate that will be chosen?

Charita Ford   April 23rd, 2008 11:21 am ET

After a very good thumping in Pennsylvania, I think we’ve settled the “large Democratic state base argument.” Is there any way Mr. Obama or his campaign put a spin on this lost–this beautiful morning after Earth Day? I am so glad that money did not determine the outcome of Pennsylvania. Also the pungents who say limit her voter base by race and class must be blind and not see the diverse group of supporters for Ms. Hillary Clinton–especially the diverse group of women voters. I am an African-American woman from Illinois and I am supporting Hillary Clinton. Her experience, compassion, and great love of America is the reason for this support, and she has “always been proud of America” through both good times and bad–and her desire to help make America a place were every person can achieve and have hope in the American Dream is commendable.
I, for one, am not “bitter,” but “better” because I know that Ms. Clinton is fighting and standing firm for economic concerns that are plaguing all of us, for war concerns–a war this country cannot afford, and for health care concerns that reveal if you are poor or middle class you can’t afford to get sick. Ms. Hillary Clinton struggle on and keep the faith and our eyes are on the prize! Charita Ford Illinois

Merna, New York   April 23rd, 2008 11:35 am ET

I AM HAPPY FOR Hillary! I prayed so much for her to win. Also this Big win says a lot about who should be the next president of the United States. However, if Hillary does not win against Obama I will still vote him in November, because no matter what is about putting a Democrate in charge of the country. So people! don’t be naive by not voting for a Democrate because your party does not win, all we do is hurt ourselves by putting another Republican in office. Therefore, lets all stick together, whatever the outcome is we still have to great canadates running for president. I just belive that Hillary is the most experience, and she is what we need to get this country up and running again. I am Hispanic and I did not vote for Bill Richardson because he was Latino instead I support Hillary becuase she has more experience.

Noel from Minnesota   April 23rd, 2008 11:45 am ET

Mr Davis,
Let me turn the table and ask you the question,

1. With all the institutional Democratic power houses backing Senator Clinton in PA, why didn’t get more than 10 point lead?

2. Clinton surely spent less than Obama from her campaign, but with all her Democratic power houses supporters he did not need to spend as they already spent time on the local media talking on behalf of Clinton. Why do you down play Obama’s ability diminish Clinton’s lead to 10 points?

PhillyInKY   April 23rd, 2008 12:18 pm ET

Since 90 percent of black people vote for Obama, isn’t that considered racist??? I think hillary clinton on has 40-50 percent of the white vote…to me that’s not racially driven…….I guess race is a major player in this election…

Tim Anderson   April 23rd, 2008 1:07 pm ET

I’m sorry, I don’t care much for Hillary or Barak, but it kills me that Senator Clinton is calling into question Senator Obama’s electability when she is LOSING! Why is a loser calling into question the guy’s ability to win an election when he’s beating her by more than 100 pledged delegates AND the popular vote AND the total number of states won. If Barak had any sense, he would call into question Senator Clinton’s electability seeing that she will more than likely lose to him after the voters are done having their say. Anyways, if you still believe that Hillary is justified in calling into question Senator Obama’s ability to win the big game, then let’s have the Green Bay Packers call into question the Giants’ ability to win a Super Bowl while we’re at it.

sam   April 23rd, 2008 3:03 pm ET

The demographic that Hillary went for, are the “Reagan Democrats”. They always vote republican in the general election. Have your analysts go back and look at how these areas voted in past presidential elections. These democrats never vote their interests, but vote for wedge issues. They are never there for any democrat in the general election. Another interesting group that help to inflate Hillary’s numbers are the republicans who registered as democrats. That number may account for the 10% that Hillary got. A lot of these people returned to the republicans by completing and turning in change forms at the polling place right after the vote. So if Hillary gets it, the Reagan Democrats will vote republican as they always do, the republicans turned democrats are back with the republicans, and Blacks who are the base of the democratic party will sit home and watch Whites fight it out . . . McCain will win. . .

Shawn Mac   April 23rd, 2008 4:40 pm ET

Why are we remotely concerned about the Clinton Win?
The fact is that she was expected to win PA. And that is how this primary season has gone. You win where you were expected to win. She didn’t perform any great fete here. wake up America. Barack has won more states where he wasn’t expected to win than Hillary has. As a matter of a fact, Hillary hasn’t even turned a tide in this election. Has anybody looked at that? She has won in the places where she couldn’t lose. But look at her margins 10, 15 percentage points therabout. When Barack wins in places where he is heavily favoured, he wins big 20, 25 percentage points.

About closing deals? Why does a freshman senator who is black, not a millionaire, beating a millionaire first lady and a president and a whole bunch of people who benefited from eight years of Bill Clinton’s leadership? The real question is Why can’t she close the deal? If she can’t beat Barack, how on god’s earth is she going to beat McCain?

How can you win the biggest states and still be behind with popular votes?

There are many more questions to ask about Hillary’s performance in this election than we have to ask about Barack’s.

Finally, the CNN analysts speak about a credible argument that Hillary has to make to the Super Delegates in that she can win in the places that matter come November.
Is that really a credible argument? or is it the most credible argument she has?

So she has moved from frontrunner to beggar…. Hmmm…

I end by saying that Barack should have lost since Super Tuesday, he has been winning eversince. He’s the real winner to me.

rosie   April 23rd, 2008 6:48 pm ET

Hilary has lasted as long as she has, because she is running against a man who has great respect for the female gender. She is also running against a man who want the democrats to win the White House, therefore has restrained from giving the Republican’s any help, peradventure Hilary had become the Nominee. Hilary also knew Obama before this race began, and knew he was a man of principles and integrity. She knew he was not going to join the mud fight, which is why she chose this way as her battle ground. But the Republican will not be as Obama, for they too are in it to win at any cost, and the Clinton’s has a lot of excess baggage to air to those who were too young to remember the Clinton’s days in the White House, and believe me they will not hold back as Obama has, because of his respect for women; for they now see what many of the people want, not a political campaign, as Obama and McCain would like to present, but a floor show.

sam   April 29th, 2008 5:53 am ET

I think some of the thing rev wright has said should have came out so that other black people can see that they share these feeling but afraid to show them and choose not to HATE, we choose to love prey and vote.

Jay   May 7th, 2008 1:00 pm ET

8 yrs of the Clintons was enough….The best thing about Pres Clinton’s yrs were the cabinet he had..Nogt him or his wife…I like the statement by her campaign about picking “experience” over style.She has the same amount of experience in the Senate as Obama…And as FL, i will give her the health care issue..but nothing else..Alot of fudging of the facts by that campaign and this campaign was part of the movement to censure Fla and MIch for moving the primaries up..now that they are losing, they are trying to change the rules to benefit themselves..Get over yourselfas! And deal with it!

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