Editor's Note: Carl Bernstein is a CNN analyst and author of A Woman in Charge: The Life of Hillary Rodham Clinton. He is also the author, with Bob Woodward, of All the President's Men and The Final Days, and, with Marco Politi, of His Holiness: John Paul II and the History of Our Time. Here, he writes a commentary on the prospect of a Hillary Clinton presidency. For an opposing viewpoint from former Clinton lawyer Lanny J. Davis, click here.
What will a Hillary Clinton presidency look like?
The answer by now seems obvious: It will look like her presidential campaign, which in turn looks increasingly like the first Clinton presidency.
Which is to say, high-minded ideals, lowered execution, half truths, outright lies (and imaginary flights), take-no prisoners politics, some very good policy ideas, a presidential spouse given to wallowing in anger and self-pity, and a succession of aides and surrogates pushed under the bus when things don’t go right. Which is to say, often.
And endless psychodrama: the essential Clintonian experience that mesmerizes the press, confuses the citizenry, confounds members of both parties in Congress (not to mention the Clintons themselves, at times) and pretty much keeps the rest of the world constantly amused and fixated.
Such a picture of Clinton Redux is, by definition, speculation. But it is speculation based on the best evidence at hand: the demonstrable and familiar record of Hillary and Bill Clinton coupled together in Permanent Campaign-mode for a generation, waging a continuous fight on the national political stage since 1992, an unceasing campaign for the White House, for redemption, for their ideas (sometimes) and for themselves (almost always), especially in 2008.
The basic dynamics of the campaign, except for the Clintons’ vast new-found personal wealth and its challenges, have been near-constant since they arrived in Washington: through Whitewater, health care, the battle of the budget, the culture wars, the tax returns released only under duress, the travel office, Monica, impeachment, the pardons and through Hillary Clinton’s often repugnant presidential campaign.
In many ways, the characteristic tone, secrecy, and resilience of the Clinton political march have been determined more by Hillary Clinton than by her husband, reflecting her deepest attributes and attitudes, fermented in recognition of the antipathy held against both of them, and often, the foul tactics of their enemies. As an aide put it (quoted in my book, A Woman In Charge: the Life of Hillary Rodham Clinton):
“She doesn’t look at her life as a series of crises but rather a series of
battles. I think of her viewing herself in more heroic terms, an epic
character like in The Iliad, fighting battle after battle. Yes, she succumbs
to victimization sometimes, in that when the truth becomes
too painful, when she is faced with the repercussions of her own
mistakes or flaws, she falls into victimhood. But that’s a last resort
and when she does allow the wallowing it’s only in the warm glow
of martyrdom—as a laudable victim—a martyr in the tradition of
Joan of Arc, a martyr in the religious sense. She would much
rather play the woman warrior—whether it’s against the bimbos,
the press, the other party, the other candidate, the right-wing.
She’s happiest when she’s fighting, when she has identified the
enemy and goes into attack mode. . . . That’s what she thrives on
more than anything—the battle.”
The latest transmutation of leadership in the campaign of Hillary Clinton for president –- Mark Penn’s departure or non-departure, be it window dressing or window cleaning –- is perhaps the best index we have of the more absurd aspects of her candidacy and evidence of its increasing bankruptcy.
The Clinton folks asserted to donors and reporters alike that this second “shake-up” in eight weeks at the very top of the campaign apparat represents some kind of great electoral moment, an opportunity for Hillary to state her case “more positively,” as if the negative approach had been forced on her; the beginning of yet another “turnaround” as if Penn, rather than Hillary (and Bill), has been the big problem. As if Penn were not an appendage of his two patrons, as if he were some kind of independent contractor twisting the candidate’s arm to do what comes unnaturally to her. The willingness of so much of the press, sensitized to the Clintons’ off-center complaints about one-sided coverage, to buy into this line is stunning.
In fact, the demotion of Penn –- like the departure of Hillary’s acolyte Patty Solis Doyle as campaign manager –- is a confession that, for all her claims of “experience” and leadership abilities, Hillary Clinton has now presided over two disastrous national enterprises, the most important professional undertakings of her adult life, both of which she began with ample wind at her back: the healthcare reform of her husband’s presidency, and now her own campaign for the White House. These two failures -– and the demonizing of her opponents in both instances –- may be the best indication of the kind of President she would be, especially when confronted (inevitably) by unanticipated difficulty and/or entrenched opposition to her ideas and programs.
It is exactly under such circumstances that she usually resorts to the worst excesses that mark her in full warrior-mode - and all its scorched-earth, truth-be-damned manifestations. Bosnia, anyone? Smearing the women involved (or even thought to be involved) sexually with her husband. Responding to Barack Obama with the same mindset, disdain, and arsenal as she did Karl Rove and Lee Atwater, as if Obama’s politics and methodologies were as mendacious and vicious as theirs–and her own. Tax information kept secret (in 1992 to hide her profits from trading in cattle futures; in 2008 to shield the identities of Bill’s foreign clients.) A campaign that openly boasts of throwing “the kitchen sink” at her opponent.
What you see is what you get: Hillary’s cynical view of the larger interests of the Democratic Party, exhibited in her 3 a. m. red telephone ad. And her simultaneous, incongruous suggestion that Barack Obama –- notwithstanding his supposed lack of national security qualifications to be commander-in-chief -– would make a good vice president on her ticket.
And, yes, a sense of entitlement that veritably shouts, “Look, because I believe in good things, and because of all I’ve been through, I deserve to win this.”
And yet, there is no denying that, compared to the Bush years, the accomplishments of the Clinton presidency, in which she was an elemental force (and generalissimo in the often successful fight against the forces of “the vast right-wing conspiracy”) are prodigious, marked by peace and prosperity, whatever the price of the Clintons’ methodologies and personal failings.
In projecting what a Hillary Clinton presidency would look like, there is the conundrum of her senatorial tenure and what had appeared to be a surcease in her Pavlovian resort to trench warfare: a period in which -– until the day drew near for her to announce her presidential candidacy –- she seemed (to her oldest friends, certainly) happier and more at ease, and straightforward in her public dealings, and less guarded, than at any point in her life since she followed Bill Clinton to Arkansas.
Hillary Clinton’s unique star power, her performance as a senator and fundraiser on behalf of her party are what gave legitimacy to the idea that she might be a credible presidential candidate: all premised on her changed demeanor in the Senate years, compared to her embattled tenure as first lady. As a steward of her state’s interest, and a patient student of senatorial compromise and collegiality, she was widely commended by former skeptics in Congress and the press.
True, her most revealing moment as a senator of national consequence was the vote she cast to authorize George W. Bush to go to war, which she’s been trying to explain since with dubious credibility. (“If I knew now what I knew then,” etc.) Twenty-one of her fellow Democratic senators had no doubts about what Bush intended, and voted against the authorization.
The second most revealing moment was her endorsement of legislation to make flag-burning illegal, the kind of pandering she once attacked right-wing Republicans of practicing. Meanwhile, she and her husband have regularly misrepresented their own postures and statements in the run-up to the war, as well as Obama’s record, with Bill Clinton claiming to have been against the war from the start, and Hillary saying she has consistently been more adamant in her opposition than Obama -– except for the matter of his single “speech” against the war before it started.
The assumption of many senatorial colleagues, former Clinton aides, and reporters (including this one) was that her presidential campaign would be much different from the one she and Bill Clinton waged through the White House years.
In A Woman in Charge, I wrote about her ability to evolve, observable especially in the years before she met Bill Clinton and in the Senate: to learn from her mistakes. Events have proven me wrong on that count.
The 2008 Clinton campaign, in fact, has been an exercise in devolution, back to the angry, demonizing, accusatory Hillary Clinton of the worst days of the Clinton presidency, flailing, and furtive, and disingenuous; and, as in the White House years, putting forth programs and ideas worthy of respect and deserving of the kind of substantive debate she claims she wants her race against Barrack Obama to be based upon.
Bill, meanwhile, has taken up Hillary’s old role as defender and apologist, with disinformation and misinformation, but (far less effectively than she defended him). Also with near-apoplectic tirades that have left their friends worried and wondering.
In the process of their search-and-destroy mission against Barack Obama, the Clintons have pursued a strategy that at times seems deliberately aimed at undermining Obama’s credibility if he becomes John McCain’s opponent — heresy in the view of an increasing number of the Clintons’ former suppporters and aides, a suprising number of whom now back Obama.
The choice ahead -– in Pennsylvania, and the remaining primary states, and for the super delegates, and perhaps even the arbiters of a deadlocked convention -– is clear enough at this point, at least in terms of what the 2008 Clinton campaign is about: the Clintons - plural. Theirs is a campaign for Restoration to the White House, not simply the election of Hillary Clinton. Theirs is, has always been, a joint enterprise, a see-saw routine in which the psyches and actions of each balances the board according to the personal dynamics of the moment.
A long-time associate of the Clintons, with whom Hillary has consulted in their quest to return to the White House, said early in her campaign: “She has a very plausible case for president. She had an eight-year super-graduate course in the presidency, a progressive platform…” He paused, and added: “[But] I’m not sure I want the circus back in town.”
That is what the Hillary for President campaign has become: the whole Clinton three-ring circus, with little evidence that moving back to the White House will alter that most basic fact.
- Carl Bernstein
| mary |
April 12th, 2008 11:35 pm ET Why is Carl Berstein even reporting on CNN. He obviously has an EXTERMELY BIASED opinion of Hillary Clinton, and even more offending is his highly sexist subjective opinion of her and what she has accomplished. If he wants to espouse his own sexist politial views of this nomination race, he should start his own show to let America know that what he says is very sexist coloured politics. If Carl Bernstein can't stand the thought of an effective and strongly opinionated woman who acts on her beliefs as a someone who would make a good presidential candidate – then Carl Berstein should just stop trying to throw his kitchen sink at Hillary Clinton and he should just get out of his own messy Kitchen. If effective and strong leadership with a president who can tackle issues wisely and with detailed precision, and who also holds her staff accountable for their actions is nto what Carl Berstein thinks is good for Amercia, then that is why he doesn't want Hillary to be President. But I think and believe America is smarter than that and hopefully will see the light and bote in HILLARY CLINTON AS THE NEW (VERY DESERVED) PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!! |
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| sue |
April 12th, 2008 11:54 pm ET Thank You, i'ts about time someone is willing to speak the truth about the Clintons, Sen. Clinton has run a incompetant campaign, amost controversy, straight out lies and deceit. What kind of a leader would perfer to win a Presidential Election on the account of her opponents mistakes. How can Sen. Clinton manage the United States when she can't even run her own campaign, |
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| David |
April 13th, 2008 12:15 am ET I'm glad someone is brave enough speak truth about Hillary Clinton. The media let her get away with murder. |
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| Komoa |
April 13th, 2008 12:39 am ET Yep, what Carl jst said. Thank u Carl for jst putting it out there and letting all the readers know wht they will get with I know everything because of my husband Hilary! |
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| Yvonne |
April 13th, 2008 12:45 am ET Thank you Carl. Her candidacy in my opinion is unconstitutional. She's a scary woman. If you ever write another book about her, call it: "Diary of a Mad White Woman." |
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| Saera El Paso, TX |
April 13th, 2008 1:40 am ET wow but, i suppose i'll thank you for your honest opinion. perhaps i might be more inclined to read your book. i haven't decided yet.. again, interesting anyway. |
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| anita sena-johnson |
April 13th, 2008 2:20 am ET Thank you Mr. Bernstein for your insights and comments. I, too, once had a different vision and high expectations of Hillary Clinton. You remind us, however, (it's amazing to me how anyone could ever forget) that if she is elected, we could all look forward to an extension of the chaos and drama of the first Clinton administration. (of course, she and Bill will remind us that it was someone else's fault). We would also continue to see more of her inability to select and manage people, and witness the speed with which she disengages herself from those who disagree with her, and those she who are no longer useful to her, politically. We can look forward to more of Hillary posing as a feminist and as a friend to women, unless they happen to be women with whom Bill chooses to become sexually entangled. At that time, we can witness her, again, turning her back while these women are maligned, called "trailer trash", or "mentally unstable". Hillary and Bill have had one primary goal, and that is power. They are very adept at changing roles, friendships, and professional relationships as needed to achieve and maintain this position of power. You are correct in saying that this is quite evident in her incongruous assaults on Barack Obama's character and ability to lead, while also wanting to leave the door open to the possibility that he would be her underling as Vice President, if it will help her win. She can find a way to get rid of or dismiss him later. Her need and desire for power is also evident in her greedy and instant criticism of Barack Obama's recent remarks as being condescending, and as looking down on people in small towns. This criticism is ironic, given that she delivered it via speeches to people in these small towns in a way that was patronizing and obsequious, playing "good parent" to his "bad parent." She told all of these "good children" that, indeed, they were not bitter, but resilient and hardworking. Her criticism about Barack being out of touch or looking down on these people is also hypocritical, since Hillary cannot honestly say that she identifies with these people, given that she lives in one of the richest counties and in one of the richest states in our country, and that some of her voting policies helped to put some of these people in a bad economic position. Hillary Clinton might not "look down" on these people, but that is probably because she can't even "see" them from her ivory tower in Weschester County. |
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| anita sena-johnson |
April 13th, 2008 2:20 am ET Thank you Mr. Bernstein for your insights and comments. I, too, once had a different vision and high expectations of Hillary Clinton. You remind us, however, (it's amazing to me how anyone could ever forget) that if she is elected, we could all look forward to an extension of the chaos and drama of the first Clinton administration. (of course, she and Bill will remind us that it was someone else's fault). We would also continue to see more of her inability to select and manage people, and witness the speed with which she disengages herself from those who disagree with her, and those she who are no longer useful to her, politically. We can look forward to more of Hillary posing as a feminist and as a friend to women, unless they happen to be women with whom Bill chooses to become sexually entangled. At that time, we can witness her, again, turning her back while these women are maligned, called "trailer trash", or "mentally unstable". Hillary and Bill have had one primary goal, and that is power. They are very adept at changing roles, friendships, and professional relationships as needed to achieve and maintain this position of power. You are correct in saying that this is quite evident in her incongruous assaults on Barack Obama's character and ability to lead, while also wanting to leave the door open to the possibility that he would be her underling as Vice President, if it will help her win. She can find a way to get rid of or dismiss him later. Her need and desire for power is also evident in her greedy and instant criticism of Barack Obama's recent remarks as being condescending, and as looking down on people in small towns. This criticism is ironic, given that she delivered it via speeches to people in these small towns in a way that was patronizing and obsequious, playing "good parent" to his "bad parent." She told all of these "good children" that, indeed, they were not bitter, but resilient and hardworking. Her criticism about Barack being out of touch or looking down on these people is also hypocritical, since Hillary cannot honestly say that she identifies with these people, given that she lives in one of the richest counties and in one of the richest states in our country, and that some of her voting policies helped to put some of these people in a bad economic position. Hillary Clinton might not "look down" on these people, but that is probably because she can't even "see" them from her ivory tower in Weschester County. |
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| Very Concerned American |
April 13th, 2008 6:48 am ET Anderson, This is unfair. One view of someone that does not like the Clinton's is not fair coverage. If in fact you plan on having Bernstein remarks, then you should have someone that dislikes Obama on the show also. At least have a Clinton supporter there. This is so wrong. |
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| C. Elliott |
April 13th, 2008 8:16 am ET Mr. Bernstein – thank you very much for stating the truth. Something that both Hillary and Bill need some schooling in. It truely amazes me that she – of all people – would critize Sen. Obama for making factual statements. Of course people are "BITTER" – I am. And living in rural America and I see it every day. I can only hope that more people will see and take the time to read your article. Perhaps then the light will come on and they will remember the most (perhaps even more so than the present one) scandalous administration in America history. If they will take the time to listen to what she says. How she changes her stance on issues to suit the town/state she is in. How she fabricate an elaborate story that was totally proven to be false. And then how she simply dismissed it as "misspoken". Yet she has the nerve to call Sen. Obama out of touch. Hillary look in the mirror. Again thank you Mr. Bernstein. |
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| Diane |
April 13th, 2008 9:16 am ET So...here we go again! 360 letting their pundits go off on Hillary again! When is 360 going to stop this mess and be fair to them all? You are supposed to be the news and be partial...as of yet I haven't seen anything done that way on here. Please get back to reality and stop this nonsense! You are driving people away. |
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| J. MaHaffey |
April 13th, 2008 9:42 am ET . . .If Hillary Clinton operates in this manner of bad management during a campaign, who in their right mind would want her to be President? Barack Obama conducts himself as the most Presidential by far. |
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| Donna R. |
April 13th, 2008 9:58 am ET I find this story as nothing more than a way to cloud over the issue of the "bitter" statement by Senator Obama. |
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| Sara |
April 13th, 2008 11:59 am ET Well said. Hope this gets a wide readership. |
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| lynn |
April 13th, 2008 12:14 pm ET I hope voters actually read this thoughtful, thorough assessment!! |
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| Eugene |
April 13th, 2008 12:16 pm ET Thank you, Carl Bernstein I could not have said it better. Your writting is Art of the highest level. True realism, now senator Clinton would now address herself as a Victim of Bill Clinton. ' Carl, you might want to watch your back now Senator Clinton and her crew will be coming after you. The Clinton have a history your remember what happen to Peter Paul and the guy that ended up on the park bench. So please becareful. |
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| Bob in western PA |
April 13th, 2008 12:16 pm ET An excellent assessment by Bernstein, who eloquently lays out the discomfort that most of us thinking and reading voters feel about "the Clintons." Let's hope the voters in PA send the Clintons a strong "go home" message, so that real change and healing can begin in our great country. |
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| Benjamin |
April 13th, 2008 12:16 pm ET If you don't want the circus in town, then the media shouldn't BRING it. There are real stories the media refuses to cover, and pop culture gossip stories that the media loves. If the media began treating political culture with the dignity and respect it deserves, it could restore the honor the office of President should be bestowed with. |
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| Herman LA, CA |
April 13th, 2008 12:18 pm ET I totally agree with Carls Bernstein assessment of Hillary campaign and how she would govern and the fact that we don't need this kind of drama back in the white house. |
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| Adrian |
April 13th, 2008 12:19 pm ET I am still for the clintons. I just find it mesmerising people cant see that Obama has the same problems. |
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| elliana |
April 13th, 2008 12:19 pm ET Thank you, Carl, for this very informative, and candid article!! I certainly hope that as many Americans as possible can read the contents and finally confirm that HILLARY CLINTON IS NOT CAPABLE OF, NOR DESERVING OF BEING THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES!! |
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| george Illinois |
April 13th, 2008 12:20 pm ET Superb and accurate assessment. She is also so phony whenever she speaks. |
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| more condescension |
April 13th, 2008 12:20 pm ET Why don't all the Hillary haters take their nonsense elsewhere? Any drama is being created by the media constantly trying to drag a good woman and a great candidate down. If you want to look at lies and distortions and condescension... scrutinize Obama. We are sick of you talking heads. |
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| Cris in PA |
April 13th, 2008 12:21 pm ET This article by Bernstein sums up the progress in my opinion of Hillary since Oct 2007. I started out being an extremely ardent supporter of Hillary. But right now, I am not to sure if she is the right person to be in the WH. Her actions and speeches are just downright presumptuous. She seems to set different rules for herself and her opponents. Not to mention the lies, the self-sympathy, anger, arrogance etc etc which she has displayed. As Bernstein puts it, I am not too sure if I want the circus back in town. There is no way I can bring myself to vote for Obama or any Republican. And that is turning out to be case with Hillary too. I think the Democratic Party is proving to be incompetent in the race to the WH. |
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| Debby Ragland-Lakeland, FL |
April 13th, 2008 12:21 pm ET Right on Carl! |
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| Cathy Lovsmith |
April 13th, 2008 12:21 pm ET I agree with Mr. Bernstein. Hillary is the epitomy of the things I don't like about women. She's sneaky, underhanded, backstabbing, and will lie at the drop of a hat to make herself look better than she is. As a woman, I would have a very difficult time voting for her, or anyone else who has such difficulty with ethical behavior. I don't understand those who idolize her– I expect more from a woman candidate, and I hope someday soon we will see someone with the right qualities, but it is not this day. |
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| Waiting for our tune in Penn |
April 13th, 2008 12:21 pm ET ...because of the respect I have for you Mr. Bernstein...i see this "Hillary" thing for the first time. I have felt these same things that you write about....but could not put into words. I will be for Obama on the 22nd here in Penn now. Thanks. |
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| Roger |
April 13th, 2008 12:24 pm ET I stopped at the second paragraph. All Carl Bernstein has to say was I am pro-Obama and that would have been enough. But instead, he would like to destroy the democratic party's chance to win the general election since Obama's not going to be able to beat McCain. |
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| Kim in Pa |
April 13th, 2008 12:29 pm ET Very true and well put. |
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| beth |
April 13th, 2008 12:33 pm ET What a bunch of garbage. Carl Bernstein is at it again. His opinion is needed why? Oh yes FREEDOM OF SPEECH. |
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| Theo |
April 13th, 2008 12:33 pm ET Whoa..... I could not have said it better myself! Pure elegance in writing! Thanks for making this so much clearer for me. Obama 08! |
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| elise |
April 13th, 2008 12:53 pm ET WOW What a bitter nasty commentary that reflexs his smug demeaner when on the air at CNN. Are we to consider him an expert on Senator Clinton due to his biography of the former First Lady that smaks of Kitty Ketty's style? Whats wrong Carl didn't Hillary join you on your book tour? |
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| Tobias |
April 13th, 2008 12:54 pm ET Having the Clintons back in the White House is just what this country needs. It is also the only choice we have now. Obama has no chance of winning in the general election and if we don't want another Bush third term then we had better all start supporting Senator Clinton. I was a big fan of the peace and prosperity of the 90's. |
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| Jim, American in Paris |
April 13th, 2008 12:59 pm ET Ridiculous! What would people like you do without a three-ring circus to invent and then live on! The United States had 8 years of peace and prosperity under Bill Clinton and Hillary was an oustanding First Lady and politician! |
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| hero |
April 13th, 2008 1:07 pm ET Hillary Clinton is a true hero. She battles daily for her country. She is intelligent, hardworking and informed. If her detractors went away, she could be the best president thus far. Even with all the media fueled hate, and the media created drama... she shine and rises above it all. Other politicians just lie and cheat... she works for everything. |
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| Portland, Oregon |
April 13th, 2008 1:08 pm ET Harvard guy stumping for another Harvard guy? Old boys network? |
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| Victoria in LA |
April 13th, 2008 1:11 pm ET Stop writing this sexist rubbish, Mr. Bernstein. You just can't stand it when a woman is in power, like the rest of the Obama-bots. You've never had anything constructive to ever say anyways. It's OUR time now! HILLARY 08! |
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| S. Holland |
April 13th, 2008 1:16 pm ET Perfectly stated!!!!!!!!!! |
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| Dilly WA |
April 13th, 2008 1:16 pm ET Thank you, thank ,you, thank you. I sincerely hope this is the focus on CNN this week. It is the truth and the public deserves and needs to hear it. Please, CNN stay on this. Thanks. |
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| Sterling Brown |
April 13th, 2008 1:16 pm ET You said is best my good man The circus is not going to make it back to town this fall kids. |
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| Adam |
April 13th, 2008 1:18 pm ET I'm certainly a voter who doesn't want the "circus" back in town. I don't think America does either, which is why Obama is winning and will win the nomination, and will (and should) be our next president. Thank you, Carl, for this article, and for all your work. |
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| honky white boy from cali |
April 13th, 2008 4:12 pm ET Mr. Bernstein You left me absolutely speechless! That was one of the most accurate non bias assessments of this mess I have read to date. All I can say is you deserve a Pulitzer prize and a purple heart for that piece. Very Very Brave!, and from the bottom of my heart thank you! I have had my faith in the media and CNN placed into questionable territory recently but no more that is what true journalism is all about. Go Obama 08 |
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| Siafu |
April 13th, 2008 4:36 pm ET Perfect. Clinton enjoys the battle, damn the result. That would work oh so well with a minority party that's proven adept at blocking just about *any* legislation. But then, should Clinton become the nominee, she would have to beat McCain with the votes of white women over 40, because she should be assured that much of the "new voter" block Obama brings into the mix will not be casting a vote for her. |
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| Panala Kinzie |
April 13th, 2008 4:36 pm ET I beg to differ with you Roger, Obama is the reason we have all the new voters! I for one would sit this one out if Hillary wins the nomination. Perhaps before all her ugliness, I would have considered it. Had she run a campaign of dignity. But as it stands, myself and my family would sooner let McCain win than vote for Hillary. Come to think of it there would not be much difference there as I truly believe Hillary has no intentions of getting out troops out of Iraq. - Not even at 3:00 in the morning after drinking all night. |
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| Gail |
April 13th, 2008 4:37 pm ET This is very well written. Hillary and Bill have been about themselves and riding the country as a personal platform for personal gain. What type are trying to do the Democratice party after her campign is virtually lost, shows how self centered she truly is. Dems Unite for a victory in 08 |
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| Natalie Shepherd |
April 13th, 2008 4:38 pm ET Thank you, I really needed this. I live in Pennsylvania and I am an Obama supporter. I have gotten such a kick out of watching Barack narrow Hillary's lead. Here we go again, though, less than 10 days before our primary and the Clinton campaign has gone negative again and negative BIG TIME. What Barack said about small towns is basically true for a lot of small towns across the United States. What Barack said about peoples' attitudes and mindsets and how they react and / or cope with hard times probably could have been worded better but he iwas not talking down to people or even talking about gun rights or freedom of religion. He was just telling it like it is. It's really scary to see how the Clinton campaign has turned a fairly simple statement into a falsehood and is using it to attack Barack's character and credibility to win an election. The Clintons and the surrogates speak with such certainty, they have got the whole body language thing down and they look right into the cameras with straight faces. The sad thing is that there are people out there who will unfortunately believe what they are saying. I hope to hear more from you about the Clintons so that the American public can be better informed. |
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| George |
April 13th, 2008 4:38 pm ET So you don't think Obama as President would NOT be a circus?? Think of the convocation Rev Wright and Farrakhan at the Inauguration! Think of Michelle and her bizarre comments! Not to mention the "typical white person" grandmother. OMG, are you serious?? |
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| bademus |
April 13th, 2008 4:39 pm ET I too started this primary season taking a close look at all candidates and while undecided I defended Hillary against friend's negative comments about her. Well now I am eating my words and conceding that they were right. I am appalled at the turn of her campaign. It seems as though she is trying to say "if I don't win it then he won't either". Perhaps she is angling for 2012 or maybe just trying to cut him down hard so she can argue that he can't be elected. Who's the Judas of the Democratic party? |
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| Chaz Washington State |
April 13th, 2008 5:09 pm ET Thank you Bernstein, This is something that everyone has been thinking, but just hasn’t put it in words. I can understand the Hillary supporters for standing their ground to still support her, because I wouldn't want to look like a flip flopper when it comes to whom I'm supporting, but the obvious is the obvious. Why continuing supporting someone that is desperate and has no shame in showing it. |
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| gloria |
April 13th, 2008 5:09 pm ET Been to the circus for 8 years. Now her campaign is another circus. I found out I hate the circus. |
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| Mary, Dallas, Texas |
April 13th, 2008 5:09 pm ET As they say in the Baptist, "Let the church say Amen". |
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| deb813 |
April 13th, 2008 5:10 pm ET Roger I don't think you read this post, because if you had you would realize that a second Clinton presidency is a pipe dream. It was a pipe dream after Obama won 11 contests in a row. It was a pipe dream during the four different recounting of her Bosnia story. And it is a pipe dream today. |
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| Dionne M. |
April 13th, 2008 5:10 pm ET Thank you. Hillary Clinton should not be at the helm. |
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| dawn |
April 13th, 2008 5:11 pm ET Frankly, it is amazing to me that there are still people in Pennsylvania, or anywhere else, who would still vote for her after the blatant lies she has told. Now she is jumping all over Obama for telling the truth about the people who are bitter, because they continue to get beat down by their government. Presto...she has turned herself into a gun-slinging, whiskey drinking Pennsylvanian. How can she live with herself? |
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| lynn |
April 13th, 2008 5:13 pm ET This should be on the regular political ticker not buried away!! |
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| beth |
April 14th, 2008 8:12 am ET The best analysis I have read on the Clintons modus-operandi. Carl has put into context, with sound rational, why so many of us get a creepy feeling about this candidate. One can only hope more of our party will see this and votes accordingly. Bravoo, Carl !!!!!!!! |
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| Debi |
April 14th, 2008 1:02 pm ET Thank you, Mr Bernstein, for telling it like it is. The likely scenario for Hillary has resulted in this sequence: |
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| Brendan Wilson |
April 14th, 2008 1:12 pm ET Not exactly Pulitzer-worthy analysis there, Carl. You are simply repeating everything that the Republicans have been saying about the Clintons for the last 15 years or so. They are ambitious, manipulative and duplicitous ...and this is NOT news. Neither you nor the readers that are cheering you on had any complaints when the Clinton methods were being targeted at Republicans. How come? |
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| GG |
April 14th, 2008 1:13 pm ET Every comment I have heard out of this pundit's mouth has been anti-Hillary. He and Dick Morris make interesting bedfellows. |
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| j |
April 14th, 2008 1:14 pm ET Not for nothing, but 8 years ago the election was botched and look what happened. Welcome to the the Bush Admin. I'm not saying she's a perfect fit (or a totally honest one), but at least she's a known evil. Obama has great spirit and ideas, but can he deliver? I'm also not big on his high and mighty attitude that he presents, what makes him better than any one of us? He speaks grandly, but always with a mocking tone. I just feel a known political agenda is better than one no one has ever seen. |
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| Holly |
April 14th, 2008 1:16 pm ET Wow! Can you take out an ad in a Pennsylvania newspaper? That would be wo wonderful! You go, Carl. |
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| MikeyC |
April 14th, 2008 1:18 pm ET There is a morbid part of me that wants to see the Presidency unfold like a reality show on VH1. |
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| JMR PhD |
April 14th, 2008 1:20 pm ET As an amateur psychologist, I can't decide if both the Clintons suffer from a narcissistic personality disorder or a borderline personality disorder, the latter characterized by: re-writing personal history, a strong sense of victimhood and betrayal by others "for no good reason," constant accusation and devaluation of others, inability to *really* feel others' pain, treating others like Kleenex: to be used and abandoned, hair-trigger, bottomless rage, a sense of entitlement, and a corresponding demand that if they are "over it" (anger, lies, various sins) then everyone should be "over it"–because it really didn't happen anyway. All of this appears to be driven by abandonment issues and loss of approval–hence the frantic need to be in the adoring public eye. |
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| Larry |
April 14th, 2008 1:27 pm ET Thanks Carl for a great article. Finally, some truthful analysis of the Clintons without fear. Much appreciated. And Roger, if you think Obama can't beat McBush then are you saying Billory can? That's delusional. No way she can win. No way. Why do you think everyone, including Fox News and Rush jump on Obama at everyone opportunity to try and destroy him. Granted they are racist but they really want to run against Billory. You think John Kerry was attacked and swift-boated, just wait. Both of them will be attacked unmercifully and unfairly. But that's Republican politics. Thanks Karl Rove. They know McBush will be trounced by Obama, they fear him. Not her. |
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| jake |
April 14th, 2008 1:30 pm ET No matter what you say, Obama, if he's the nominee will not beat |
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| JD |
April 14th, 2008 1:30 pm ET "the accomplishments of the Clinton presidency, in which she was an elemental force (and generalissimo in the often successful fight against the forces of “the vast right-wing conspiracy”) are prodigious, marked by peace and prosperity" Excuse me, but what did the Clinton's do in their terms to foster this? Did they bring down the Iron Curtain? Did they create the massive 'peace dividend'? As far as the economy goes they governed over the largest stock bubble in history, the effects of which we are still feeling today – the massive credit bubble we are suffering from today can be traced back to the zero interest rates created by Greenspan in response to the stock bubble and the unchecked growth of Fannie and Freddie under Clinton's watch. Did they pass Kyoto? Bush gets blasted by Gore today on this and why didn't they pass it on their watch? What did they do except coast along during some pretty good times? |
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| Lisa |
April 14th, 2008 1:32 pm ET I live in Illinois and chose to support Obama. It was not an easy decision since I would love to see a woman become President in my lifetime. In the beginning of primary season, I simply preferred him to Hillary Clinton because of his integrity and his courage to say what needs to be said. In short, I just liked him a bit more. As the primaries continued on, my respect for Hillary Clinton began to dwindle. I began to see what the Republicans disliked so much about her (which I used to see as only a witch-hunt to decrease Bill's popularity at the time). By contrast, my respect for Obama has increased proportionately to my growing dislike for Hillary. Each time she attacks him without judgment or mercy, he comes back stronger than before. In short, Hillary is putting her personal ambitions before everything else, including the Democratic Party, this country as a whole, and what's left of her integrity. The only way she could recoup any respect from me at all would be to drop out of the race – - immediately and with grace. |
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| Robert Dalton |
April 14th, 2008 1:32 pm ET Thank you, CNN, for putting Mr. Bernsteins remarks on your site. I'm almost as proud of you as the night I spent with Bernie and the Boys watching the Coalition aircraft bombing Baghdad. At last, the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. |
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| robert |
April 14th, 2008 1:33 pm ET It has been obvious for quite some time that Bernstein had an axe to grind against the Clintons. The contempt oozed throughout his last book leaving stained and greasy fingertips as you turned each vindictive page. He has lost substantial credibility with this crusade, and would now have has bow to the condescending messiah Obama, who pisses on rural white women in Pennsylvannia as he jabs the air with an elite finger lecturing Americans on the 'change' he intends to bring. Why don't you tell us about the back door money Obama plied from Abramoff's law firm while cascading invective against Hillary Clinton for doing the same thing. What people need to know is that these DC journalists are in on the take and Bernstein is just another pig lining up at the Obama trough. Give me a break! |
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| Steven Mays |
April 14th, 2008 1:35 pm ET Very well written article. However, Mr. Bernstein forgets to mention Mrs. Clinton's flip-flop opinion of the Second Ammendment. If Im not mistaken, isnt Hillary one of Sarah Brady's best friends? Everyone should remember Mrs. Brady's total, almost fanatical, commitment to nationwide gun bans. Keep in mind the name Evan Bayh, he is a former Indiana Governor who is trying his best to become the Clinton choice for V.P. Pro-gun?, a staunch Clinton supporter, Mr. Bayh is also the loudest mouth-piece for all of the anti-gun, anti-hunting, special interest groups. I know it may be hard for some to fathom, but could it be that Hillary's sudden "fond memories" of hunting and target shooting as a child are simply one more in the string of lies? Sniper fire, " I support a strong military", ( psst..it was the Clintons who initiated the BRAC process that cut our troop strenght to almost a quarter of where it should be, why do you think the deployments and tours of duty are so long and so frequent?), taxes, Whitewater, Monica, ( I thought you werent some little woman standing by her man, like Tammy Wynette?)..hmmm..so far the track record is'nt looking too good...and last but certainly not least..what did really happen to Vince Foster?..I never have bought into the whole "He shot himself in the back of the head with a shotgun" theory..it just isnt possible. The list goes on and on...NAFTA..the LIncoln bedroom...oh yes, probably the biggest most blatant lie of all...remember when Hillary first ran for the Senate?..what was it she said with a straight face to all in earshot and camera range?.."Absolutely NOT, I HAVE NO PLANS WHATSOEVER TO EVER RUN FOR THE PRESIDENCY"...hmmm, How can there be anyone, possibly, who thinks Hillary is NOT a liar who's sole purpose in life is ..simply..to serve herself and no one else.? |
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| max |
April 14th, 2008 1:37 pm ET Carls sounds angry. I give him credit for his work in the past but every singlr sentance was an attack line...not much of an analysis...it is obvious who he is voting for... this article just sounds a little over the top angry |
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| Chuk Walton |
April 14th, 2008 1:39 pm ET I get the impression that Bill and Hillary will kill to win the ultimate prize of their career. It is an ugly scene. McCain smirks through it all. After the Bush disaster, how could it be. McCain might as well have Hillary as Vice President. |
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| Angelita |
April 14th, 2008 1:40 pm ET Obviously Bernstein is capitalizing via his writings about Hillary Cllinton. Should she get the democratic nomination, why not call his next book Hillary Potter: " A Clinton's Thirst for Power .". I hope she really wins so that it will be a slam dunk in his face. It's time he ends his Hillary hatred and get a real life. |
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| Mercedes |
April 14th, 2008 1:41 pm ET Ho hum......yawn.......I don't have time for all these words. Mr Bernstein's words started sucking the life out of me by the end of the first paragraph. Hillary Clinton is a remarkable woman who has been conducting a fantastic campaign. I know where she stands and I hear her challenge for all of us to help her get this Congress and all the special interests moving in a direction to benefit all of us. Nothing else matters unless you make your living talking and writing in Washington DC. You can't show more than you know. So get out and see and EXPERIENCE the real country Mr Bernstein, Mr Obama, and all the other movers and shakers who think they have seen the light and must tell the rest of us how to live and what to think. |
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| Barry Koch,Va. Beach, Va. |
April 14th, 2008 1:42 pm ET As insightful and as well written as Mr. Bernstein's book...the Clinton's would rather desroy Obama if they can not return to the white house... its always about them not what is best for the country..how sad..but then Hillary showed her true character when she refused to follow her instructions on the impeachment staff of Richard Nixon..and was discharged as a result..why is that never mentioned ??? |
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| ibrahim |
April 14th, 2008 1:42 pm ET The truth will win. If Barack is not elected, then America loses. You don't need to be an Obama supporter to know that. Hilary is doing everything just to spoil this man. Why can't we open our eyes?. In short enough is enough, we are tired and frustrated. Barack needs to be carefull because this woman is dangerous. God, oh God save us. |
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| Peggy |
April 14th, 2008 1:43 pm ET This very insightful look at a "Clinton White House" was admirable! Thanks for putting into such eloquent words- things that I have been thinking and feeling since this election process started. |
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| Bit |
April 14th, 2008 1:45 pm ET One more thing Carl: I have read all the Whitewater scandals and other scandals that went on with the Clintons during Bill's terms as Governor (Mena) and President. In all the scandals, there were peple that were killed that knew too much and who disagreed with the Clintons. I said all of this to say this-watch yourself so that you won' t become a VICTIM at the hands of the Clintons. Well done! |
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| marc1a |
April 14th, 2008 5:06 pm ET Boy...Such an ugly picture of a Clinton presidency. You know, it wasn't too long ago, and from what I remember, things were not so bad. In fact, for me personally and I suspect for many of you reading this, it was the best time of my life economically speaking. I can't believe what s short memory this country has. Sure, some mistakes were made, but do you people and the media really think Obama is not going to make mistakes. The media like AC, Matthews and Olbermann are so in love with Obama that they're willing to forget their journalistic duties, and do their part to influence the electorate. They stack their shows and their blogs with contributors or "experts" that are clearly in the tank for Obama. They are always quick to offer a defense of an Obama gaffe but relentlessly analyze Clinton's. This is total BS and the country is catching up to it. Obama supporters may own the internet but that doesn't mean the rest of the country doesn't see what's happening and Obama will not stand a chance in November without the support of Hillary supporters. |
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| Independent Citizen |
April 14th, 2008 5:17 pm ET Berstein, as always, stands up for objectivity and the American people. This is a well written, well researched perspective on Hillary's political life and style. |
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| Deb |
April 14th, 2008 5:41 pm ET Actually, I like the idea of Hillary as a warrior. Who wants an elitist wimp who can't bowl, talks about arugula, and thinks you take a six-shooter into a duck blind, as president? |
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| Terri |
April 14th, 2008 5:57 pm ET Thank you, Mr. Bernstein. I was beginning to think that there was no one left who has actually been paying attention for the last few decades. Everything you've written is spot on and I'm simply baffled that more people can't see through it all. It saddens me that with the Democratic line-up we had this year, candidates far more worthy were all but ignored next to the Clinton whirlwind. It's a shame that circus has pre-empted serious issue considerations in elections more and more. Let's hope more people turn away from the manipulated distractions and distorted spin and realize that the last thing we need at this time is a return of the Clintons to the White House, and I say that as someone who voted for Bill twice. |
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| Pat Newcomb |
April 14th, 2008 6:00 pm ET This is a tough article and hard to take. I wonder what the Clinton's did to the writer to make him so hateful. Sadly, I did not see anything in this article referring to his personal experience of this behavior. I respect the fact that there is some sort of axe to grind here, but there are so many statements stated so definitively that it's hard to separate fact from speculation. How does the writer answer the fact that Hillary Clinton was elected to the US Senate ON HER OWN – TWICE? Her re-election required her to win over hundreds of thousands of residents of small towns, farmers, factory workers AND small business owners. These folks can see through to someone's character pretty quickly and they must have liked what they saw. How does the writer answer the fact that Hillary Clinton sponsored or co-sponsored so many pieces of legislation – some of which requiring her to sit down across the table with arch rivals and philosophical enemies? As to management of the campaign - in the end, the voters and the delegates have to like what they see. Campaigns will be judged on the ends and not the means. A "well-run" campaign for a candidate who loses because he routinely exhibits his disdain for typical white people, blue collar workers and people from small towns and rural areas will end up in the dustbin of history just like every other second place. |
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| Edward in CA |
April 14th, 2008 10:08 pm ET Thank you Mr. Bernstein, very well said. |
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| JJ |
April 14th, 2008 10:08 pm ET Ridiculous! |
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| jeff |
April 14th, 2008 10:08 pm ET Carl Bernstein speaks the truth. I recommend his extremely fair and balanced biography of HC to anyone who wants to know the pro's and con's of her background. BC is the kind of baggage no President needs to have around. |
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| JJ |
April 14th, 2008 10:12 pm ET Is this what an Obama presidency promises. If you say his middle name you will be put on a list. I’m going to keep posting until CNN stops censoring me. |
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| Edward in CA |
April 14th, 2008 10:13 pm ET Pat Newcomb, you must not understand anything about politics, or not understand anything about New York. Hillary Clinton would not have been elected to office in her own state. So she carpet bagged in New York to get elected, and leveraged her liberal cronies in the state to make it happen. Further, every political expert, even those working in her campaign, characterize her presidential campaign to be one of great folly, mismanagement, disorganization, and incompetence. If that's who you want running the country, then we are in for some serious trouble. |
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| jonathan |
April 14th, 2008 10:13 pm ET If only she would campaign in Dallas. |
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| paul |
April 14th, 2008 10:14 pm ET wow! spot on, carl! |
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| Karen |
April 14th, 2008 10:14 pm ET Mercedes said Hillary Clinton is a remarkable woman. She may have some remarkable accomplishments to her credit, but she is a LIAR as well. She is extremely deceptive, coniving, and not trustworthy. Everytime she tells a story about someone she met on the campaign trail, I seriously doubt it. We need a president we can believe in. That requires honesty. Simply stated, she is a phony. . . certainly not presidential material. |
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| Mary Ann, Atlanta |
April 14th, 2008 10:25 pm ET Carl, We get it. You're just not that into her. Now move on. |
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| Eileen,Canada |
April 14th, 2008 10:28 pm ET Another biased Clinton hater A lot of men just don't want a women president. But they would rather settle for a racist, elitist that we are just beginning to learn about. The media has not done theri job of investigating Obama more. If all these controversies were about Hillary Clinton she would have been asked to step down...double standard here.... |
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| Nan |
April 14th, 2008 10:30 pm ET So Mr Berstein, |
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| JoAnne MN |
April 14th, 2008 10:35 pm ET Carl must be trying to sell his book. No thank you! |
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| Steve in California |
April 14th, 2008 10:36 pm ET It's difficult to digest any of Carl Bernstein's Hillary bashing rants. He's so transparent in his contempt and hatred, I tune out whenever he speaks. CNN and Carl should make more of an effort to appear objective. |
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| Jeanne |
April 14th, 2008 10:39 pm ET I don't even want to think about another Clinton presidency. Just say NO! |
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| A. Freeman |
April 14th, 2008 10:40 pm ET Well said, and thank you Mr. Bernstein |
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| Elva |
April 14th, 2008 10:42 pm ET "We're oppressed as hades and we're not gonna take it any more." Women are sick and tired of settling for a lesser candidate when the best man for the job happens to be a woman. These type of sexist diatribes only motivate her supporters more. Lanny Davis has it right in response And no Carl. You don't have another book sale here. So you can stop pumping free ads for your book. |
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| Ramesh |
April 14th, 2008 10:42 pm ET Brilliant. Perfectly timed, perfectly written. This womans presidency would be run EXACTLY the way this campaing was run. Confrontational, partisan and brutally divisive. Oh and this would be in addition to her colossal mismanagement of people and resources. Best of luck people!! |
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| Tim |
April 14th, 2008 10:44 pm ET Bernstein is so blatently biased against Clinton it is hard to take anything he says seriously. And let's not forget the serious gaffes that Obama has committed so far – Rev, Wright, Tony Rezco, and last but not least the "small town Americans are a bunch of gun-toting bible-thumping idiots who are too stupid to solve their problems" speech that just proves how elitist and out of touch he is with average Americans. Hillary may have made some mistakes, but that is nothing compared to the inexperience and elitist attitudes of Obama, and we are probably just seeing the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the skeletons in his closet. |
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| Jimmy |
April 14th, 2008 10:44 pm ET Bernstein is a prime example of one of those supposedly "neutral" pundits, all the while spinning and injecting his own biased beliefs in to the conversation. There is a difference between analyzying a situation objectively and writing a balanced article about the situation and having an axe to grind with someone and taking the opportunity to slam them in to the dirt every time they get the chance. Bernstein (and his anti-Hillary rant above) is an example of the latter. Whenever Carl can, he sticks a needle in Hillary's back. Bernstein is a man on a crusade to stop the Clinton's in every way, shape and form. It's too bad he can't do a better job of disguising that. |
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| Hillary '08 |
April 14th, 2008 10:52 pm ET Thank you for presenting such an insightful article. You have provided me a perspective that I had not previously considered. I do believe you've convinced me that what I really want is a change from politics as usual. I am changing my support to Mr. Obama, who does seem to represent a real chance for change. |
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| Jessica Schreiber |
April 14th, 2008 10:53 pm ET I am confused by Mary's critique of the Bernstein's analysis. She repetitively refers to it as "sexist" without ever defining the term or providing a scintilla of evidence to support it. She has a right to disagree with Bernstein's analysis - but she cannot refute it by name calling, at least as far as I am concerned. I am a feminist and of Senator's Clinton generation - a natural ally who instinctively would like to support her. But I can't because she no longer seems to stand for anything. I have found her attacks on Obama disingenuous and cynical. It seems she would rather McCain win than allow Obama to run. His has been the better campaign from Day 1. He is the real thing - an authentic, charismatic leader with a remarkable ability to distill issues down to their essence and in inspire the best in us as Americans. Hillary has good ideas and policies as well - she just cannot articulate them very well, she lacks Obama's (and her husband's) depth or scope of understanding and does not come across as deep, or original or authentic. I understand the pain for her, but I cannot respect her self serving ambition at the expense of the Democratic Party and the country. Obama offers the greatest hope of Presidential leadership in a generation. Hillary Clinton is standing in his way. Bernstein is right and I agree with what he has to say. It gives me no pleasure to disclose that I have lost respect for Hillary Clinton as a result of how she has run her campaign. |
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| K |
April 14th, 2008 10:53 pm ET Excuse me, but what planet are you guys on??? The presidency is a job for someone who can manage a country. Central to this job are POLICIES, PLANS, and CONCRETE IDEAS. I challenge any of you to present to me ANY policies, plans or concrete ideas that come from Barack Obama. I dare you. If you give me the same challenge with Hillary, I wouldn't even know where to start. I will come back to you with handfuls of policy plans. Now who's the best candidate? |
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| Joe Terrogano |
April 14th, 2008 11:04 pm ET Thank you Mr. Bernstein for your insights. |
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| Tony Rizzo |
April 14th, 2008 11:08 pm ET The Clinton years : marked by personal failings but with peace and prosperity. I'll take it ! |
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| Carolyn C |
April 14th, 2008 11:08 pm ET Wow! I wish I could have written this. An insightful description of why Hillary's scorched earth approach will never unify the country. Thank you Karl! |
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| Gary in DC |
April 14th, 2008 11:08 pm ET I voted for Bill Clinton, both times. Overall, I think he was good for the country.The last thing I want is 4 more years of the antics we've seen from Bill Clinton during the past 6 months. We don't need 2 presidents! |
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| BCC |
April 14th, 2008 11:08 pm ET Most people capable of successfully leading have visible and many times considerable flaws. This is certainly true with both Senator Hillary and former President Bill Clinton. On-the-other-hand, the one impossible to miss flaw in people who cannot successfully lead is their inability to lead. This is certainly true of President George W. Bush. Based on his agreement with the major policies and failures of President Bush, Senator McCain projects the dominate characteristic of being incapable of successfully leading because he intends to follow the flawed logic and of unrealistic goals of President Bush. Based on a lack of meaningful experience and a lack of details on how to achieve his stated goals, Senator Obama projects the dominate characteristic of being incapable of successfully leading. In a phrase, promising change for change sake is not a strategy for success. So, take your pick. 1) Bash Senator Hillary Clinton, a capable leader but flawed human; or 2) praise Senator Obama an excellent speaker but a man without meaningful leadership experience and without details on how he will actually bring about change and how the change he promises will be a change for the better; or 3) praise Senator McCain who has pledged to follow in the footsteps of President Bush. Footsteps that will continue to lead the USA to foreign and domestic ruin. |
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| Manny |
April 14th, 2008 11:08 pm ET OMG, what an editorial. Whether you support Clinton or Obama, McCain or the Man in the Moon, you gotta love the magnificent prose of an American icon, Carl Bernstein. I found myself suddenly divested of the topic at hand but more so simply enjoying one of the greats practicing his craft. More Bernstein please! Bravo! |
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| blake |
April 14th, 2008 11:09 pm ET It's a blong, people. Nobody at CNN claimed that Mr. Bernstein's piece was neutral.... It was, however, extremely on point. If you like Hillary, get over it. Or see the light - this woman cannot possibly win against McCain, because too many despise her. She lies and bends the truth constantly, is presumptuous and condescending, attacks a fellow Democrat even when it benefits McCain and purports to be one of "us" when she and Bill have pulled in over $100 million in less than 10 years. Thank you, Obama, for pointing out that many of us are indeed bitter and want to move on from the Clinton/Bush legacies that have left us with little to be happy about. And thank you, Mr. Bernstein, for a very interesting piece. |
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| Jonathan |
April 14th, 2008 11:09 pm ET This whole article is obviously a subjective and deliberately negative piece, but the thing I find most appalling is the assersion in the article that Senator Clinton's Presidential campaign is somehow a failure. She has overcome enormous odds, a one-sided smear campaign from an Obama-obsessed press, a vicious and largly ignored onslaught from the supposedly doe-eyed Obama campaign, all to emerge as a lagimate candidate who will not only will Pennsylvania (as well as having won virtually every major state) but will continue to compete for the nomination of her party as the most qualified contender by far. |
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| Patty |
April 14th, 2008 11:10 pm ET Just the fact please! Keep your personal feeling out of the race....I expect these attacks |
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| Ann Zen |
April 14th, 2008 11:10 pm ET Right, but gas was $1.15 a gallon. The first President Clinton really cared about working people. He understood us, and if not for opposition from the GOP, he would have helped people a lot more than he was able. I will vote for whichever Democrat gets the nomination, but I do sincerely hope it is Hillary Clinton. She would do better than another under-prepared, arrogant male like Obama, who is so inexperienced and yet so cocksure. |
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| Shaunte |
April 15th, 2008 1:32 am ET Excellent commentary!! |
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| Blesson, India |
April 15th, 2008 5:46 am ET brilliant material ! i totally agree with this piece of writing. if Obama becomes the president, i can truly say that America would be under one of finest men in power. The man has it all. |
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| Joseph in PA |
April 15th, 2008 5:48 am ET Excellent article! It summarizes how I have come to feel as well about the Clinton's, and I was one of their biggest supporters, but it seems that the Clinton's biggest supporters are...themselves. Interesting also how many more Clinton supporters say they will not vote for Obama as opposed to Obama supporters not willing to vote for Clinton. I am a Democrat foremost before being the supporter of a candidate. I wish Mr. Bernstein's article could be front page on all the PA newspapers tomorrow! |
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| John |
April 15th, 2008 6:19 am ET Boy, was this a great piece of work to wake up to. No, I do not hate Mrs. Clinton. She's been a good senator here in New York State. I hope she remains a U.S. Senator and quits the circus. |
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| jim |
April 15th, 2008 6:26 am ET Carl, how about next time you add some facts to your vitriol? If you want to make a claim, you should support it with something verifiable, not just an appeal to mythology. The Republicans spent tens of millions of dollars trying to get the Clintons on all these "scandles" you cite, but failed. Why? Because there was no there, there. So too one must consider your bit of hate published here by CNN. |
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| R. Martin |
April 15th, 2008 6:28 am ET Excellent piece. Thanks so much–I couldnt have said it better. Lets keep the circus out of town. One extended run was enough and something seems a litlle off with the ringmaster, Bill. Or maybe he is just saying all these things at 10 at night when he is tired! |
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| jim in pennsylvania |
April 15th, 2008 6:39 am ET as iowa goes so goes pennsylvania |
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| James |
April 15th, 2008 8:09 am ET This commentary is a valid and true depiction of Sen Clinton, I still like Bill, but the truth is the truth. This attack and destroy, the win at all cost mentality of the Clintons have become very distasteful to nonsupporters and suppoters alike. Remember that phrase |
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| Tom |
April 15th, 2008 8:33 am ET Funny how anyone who criticizes Hillary Clinton is called a sexist. Does it follow that anyone who criticizes Barack Obama is racist? Interesting that Clinton backers have attacked female superdelegates because of their percieved obligation to back a female candidate for president no matter what. Didn't that King guy say something about having a dream that people will be judged on the content of their character, not the color of their skin? Or gender? So much for that. |
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| Jeff |
April 15th, 2008 8:35 am ET Carl's piece is right on. I voted for Bill the first time he ran and I don't regtret it. The Clinton years were a heyday compared to what Bush has put us through. But any sensible person with any powers of observation only has to watch the Clintons questionable actions and repeated lies to know that they are mainly concerned with thier own image and legacy above all else, including the state of our country. Anybody who saw Hilary get caught red handed lying about snipers and use the laughable political plattitude "I misspoke" and still wants to vote for her, has some serious issues with critical thinking and judgment of character. I get a chuckle out of reading angry diatribes from the brainwashed Clinton zealots who posted their protests here. They mirror the victim defense Carl talked about perfectly. I'm not sure Obama is best for the country and I'm not sure McCain is either. I am sure Hilary is not. We need someone who is more interested in trying to fix our problems than being honored and admired for trying to fix our problems. |
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| Doreen |
April 15th, 2008 8:36 am ET I recall very well that Bill Clinton's Presidency were very great years for all Americans. Great jobs and prosperity. Bill Clinton even left a surplus which George Bush squandered. I hope and pray Hillary wins. |
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| Bruce |
April 15th, 2008 8:46 am ET This is an excellent analysis... The Clintons are a sinking ship... So if you are a Clinton supporter, I would carry a life perserver with me at all times... Her campaign has suffered one failure after another... Sen. Clinton believes, Sen. Obama isn't electible, I would argue, she would fair far less, She not liked by many people, She can't be trusted and she is involved in so many shady dealings... |
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| Lydia |
April 15th, 2008 9:15 am ET Pat on the back for Carl Bernstein, telling the T R U T H. Everyone else seems afraid of the Clintons for some reason. |
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| Jay |
April 15th, 2008 9:15 am ET Nothing so one-sided can ever be taken seriously. Everything in life is much more nuanced. It sounds he just has something against Mrs. Clinton and needs to vent. These one-sided attacks seem to help Mrs. Clinton. There are troubling things about her that need to be explored, but there are positive aspects too. I am concerned about the future of journalism. |
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| zuheir alfaqih |
April 15th, 2008 9:16 am ET Wow ... Am not a Clinton supporter, but this was about as dreary and sangfroid a review as ever I've read ... It perhaps says as much about the author as the former first lady. |
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| Leo in GA |
April 15th, 2008 9:16 am ET great article....reflects my views on the clintons.....8 yrs was enough |
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| rudy |
April 15th, 2008 9:18 am ET This is not a race about the best candidate but rather whether a black man has the right to ask for the presidency because of the color of his skin. Carl has always been perceptive but having said that it makes one wonder; where is the beef in his article. The question voters face is not whether a candidate is the most righteous man, or the one with the pure soul. Rather it is the selectin or choice between two evils. I for one believe that Obama is the worst evil not because of what it has been revealed about him but rather the pattern in which every day the revelations become more disturbing. Can you protect agaist the unknown? Carl, this is the question. I have always understood and admired your clarity of thought but his time, you bring a slight disappoinment. |
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| Lori, Battle Creek, MI |
April 15th, 2008 9:18 am ET It's just too bad that there isn't more media coverage of this than a few misconstrued words Obama said recently. No wonder McCain would rather go up against Hillary then Obama. He will have a field day with all the baggage she has. I hope the superdelegates will have the chance to read this after Hillary batters them about how more electable she is then Obama. Mr. Bernstein, I congratulate you for expressing so eloquently what I have felt about Hillary since she was 1st lady. I just wish more people could see her true colors. I hope your voice will be heard more on this issue. |
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| JustinA |
April 15th, 2008 9:29 am ET Hillary has been known to pick the wrong fights. She alienated senior democrats during her "fight" for health care reform. Leadership requires knowing when to fight and when no to fight. It also requires compromising and the art of diplomacy. Hillary fails miserably and seems to fight for the sake of fighting. |
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| Phoenix |
April 15th, 2008 9:30 am ET I read both these articles carefully. Bernstein's is indeed an opinion piece and a rant only better than some bloggers because of better spelling. He is speculating on a future based on very tenuous observations and a skewed view of the past. Davis draws a distinction between fact and opinion that should be investigated further; the electorate is being dissed here by being fed a constant diet of rancid opinions without specific references to judge the merits of those opinions. I think we deserve better in making such an important choice as POTUS. |
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| Brad IL. |
April 15th, 2008 9:54 am ET Just another article of why I will vote for Hillary. Another kool-aid drinker. Obama had my vote , but after reading this and looking at factcheck.com, I know who should not be the President ( Obama ) . His political career has nothing to brag about, hell Jesse Jackson had more success than this guy. Obama should drop out so this party will have a chance to beat McCain. Alot of people will soon see that Obama has no policies of his own, just someone else's. We do not need a Ted Kennedy, John Kerrey, President. Let this man write what ever he think's is the truth,we all know it's not. Bill Clinton was a very good President , and if he would have had a Democratic House and Senate during this time he would have been a even greater President. So keep spinning the truth and we'll see John McCain in office in 2009 |
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| Kate |
April 15th, 2008 9:57 am ET Living in Indiana, I've had opportunity to hear both Democratic candidates in the recent past. I've read books penned by both candidates. I was leaning toward Obama, but still keeping an open mind. Until these past few days. I have been so turned off by the bulldog, going for the jugular approach Hillary has been taking in regards to Obama's commentary. I consider myself intelligent enough to assess and evaluate statements from each candidate. I don't need his/her opponent to interpret them for me. To me, it smacks of desperation. I am so sick of all the sniping. I need the candidates to just focus on getting his/her own message out. As a woman, I would love to see the best qualified candidate for the presidency be a woman. But I need it to be a woman I can connect with and relate to....and it's not Hillary. |
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| John Mass |
April 15th, 2008 10:58 am ET I could not have explained it better. |
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| Sam |
April 15th, 2008 11:19 am ET Brilliant Carl. Seems like you got the pulse..hope it touches some nerves. |
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| Brian |
April 15th, 2008 12:14 pm ET You see Mary...this is what is known as an editorial. It expresses the opinions of someone and is not represented as a hard news item. Editorials are a valuable part of any news organization. Hopefully your high school civics class will discuss such things in further detail. |
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| Diana |
April 15th, 2008 12:16 pm ET No candidate is perfect; that is a given. But I do appreciate Bernstein's insightful, articulate, subjective perspective The one word that keeps coming back to me is "devolution:" Not only do I believe she is not the best person to fill the role of president, I sense that much of the world feels similarly, and we sorely need someone in the White House who can keep a tighter rein on their ego and work with other countries to build bridges where Bush has created chasms. |
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| Gerald in VA |
April 15th, 2008 12:52 pm ET Very well said, Sir!! |
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| Kristina |
April 15th, 2008 1:00 pm ET Carl is right! I was a Hillary supporter in the beginning, but became dismayed with her circus act determined to say and do anything for power. As a result of her antics, she has lost my respect, and now I do not trust her. I do not trust her to know the right thing to do at 3am or any other time, I do not trust her to do the right thing, I do not trust that she has any higher principles to guide her, I do not trust her, I do not trust her. Barack may have some lessons to learn, but I do not believe he will accept learning to be as disingenuous as Hillary, as one of them. |
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| california Lady |
April 15th, 2008 1:05 pm ET THANK YOU, THANK YOU Carl Bernstein Finally someone has the guts to tell it like it is and give us a snapshop of what HRC would really be like as President. I couldn't agree with you comments more One more thought. People always talk about the prosperous the Clinton years were. It wasn't Clinton's smart economic plans, it was the Technology boom that really boosted our economy. |
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| Susan |
April 15th, 2008 1:06 pm ET What a mean-spirited analysis. He has joined the ranks of latte liberals who prefer feel good hype to the substantive possibility of change. Obama is not the answer. Hillary is the best option. |
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| denise hargrave |
April 15th, 2008 1:06 pm ET OK Carl and where is Obamba's story????? what do you really know about him??? all that i have heard is words, and all i know is that he has to have someone hold his hands at all times(CNN,MSNBC AND NOW YOU!) Well i hate to disappoint you and the others, but i like what i see in Hillary and Bill, was he the perfect president? of course not, but who was??? But he did some wonderful things for us! And this is your story??? Why don't you people tell both sides???? and you call yourselves journalist and author's??? of what??? not in my book! and alot of others! You might as well let Busch stay another 4 yrs!! The way i see it, all you people are trying to do is to cash in on this presidency. Shame on all of you! for not being truthful! I want to thank all the many wonderful men and women out there that are endorsing her and voting for her! Not only do they have wisdom, but they are the ones who are so deserving to be writing a story about her and Bill. |
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| Randall |
April 15th, 2008 1:07 pm ET Hallelujah Carl! Your piece is spot on. And for you people crucifying Mr. Bernstein for stating a subjective point of view in a op/ed blog, please go find out what op/ed means. This is not an "article" or "reporting" as some of you people are calling it, and Mr. Berstein is well within bounds in writing it, as is CNN in printing it. If you want to read another opinion that fits more with your politics go read the anemic response by Lanny Davis. That is also an op/ed piece that Mr. Davis is well within his right to author and CNN to publish. |
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| Mike in Texas |
April 15th, 2008 1:07 pm ET Three months ago – both my wife and I said "we would be happy with either Clinton or Obama. That was when our first choice – John Edwards dropped out. Then came the Kitchen Sink, Bonsia Snippers and the 'say anything to get elected' strategy. Now, both my wife and I say if Clinton in the nominee – I am not voting for the first time since I became old enough to vote – 20 years ago. Clinton keeps saying that she is not hurting the party – I disagree. I wont vote for McCain, I won't vote for Clinton. |
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| Bob |
April 15th, 2008 1:08 pm ET Thank you Bernstien. You opned the eyes of the people and the superdelegates. I wish press will bring this to all American. We do not want a dynasty rule. Then there is no difference from middile east and many other countries. If that happens we can draw parrallel with them. This is a great country. Do not buy into bringing the divisive candidates to the presidential election. |
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| Carla |
April 15th, 2008 1:08 pm ET before people trash this article I would like them to tell me what facts they disagree with. If they can prove this article is not giving accurate facts then you have a point not until then. |
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| JT |
April 15th, 2008 1:08 pm ET Bush ran a well executed campaign, but does that mean he ran the country well? You know the answer to that. |
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| Jon |
April 15th, 2008 1:09 pm ET Tragically, Hillary Clinton's campaign has unfolded like a very badly done piece of origami. Very bad. Very bad. |
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| RJ |
April 15th, 2008 1:10 pm ET For years I held up a fight against so many conservatives who claimed there was a real bias in the media. I was an Obama supporter when this campaign started. The scrutiny by the media on all candidates except Mr. Obama has left me flabbergasted. I'm really embarrassed to say that Fox news may actually be "Fair and Balanced" (or at least more so than the main stream media outlet). Shame on you CNN. And shame on me for coming to your defense for so long. |
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| Nas from PA |
April 15th, 2008 1:11 pm ET I agree. I think Hillary has lost sight of everything except to win and at any cost. Never mind her antics hurt the party she claims she wants to boost. She is unorganized, shows mixed messages and has campaigners that she claims are at odds with her views but retains their services anyway. What?!? She touts her years as the first lady as part of her 35 years of experience-but only the good things. She forgats about NAFTA, whitewater and the questionable pardons. I agree that the Bill Clintons years may have been good in many ways but she is not Bill Clinton and Bill Clinton is not the Bill Clinton of his presidentcy. I vote next week and it won't be for Billary! |
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| BonnieInTexas |
April 15th, 2008 1:12 pm ET I used to have a lot of respect for Carl Bernstein when he was breaking the Watergate story. Now I have to wonder how much truth there was in what he wrote back in the 70s because he is obviously off his game now with his sanctimonious and rabid battle against Senator Clinton. Looks like he needs another 15 minutes of fame. Maybe a wordsmith can only be impressed by a wordsmith. |
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| Lisa |
April 15th, 2008 1:14 pm ET The person who wrote Americans have the shortest memories on the planet couldn't be more right. Carl is a baffoon and just trying to sell more books. Anyone who is so one sided should be a CNN guest, not a CNN contributor. I love CNN but in the last month it has become so anti-Hillary especially Jack and has obviously decided to participate in the Clinton bashing. As journalists, why don't you all take notes from Wolf B., report the news and keep your opinions to yourself. Express them when you get to the voting booth. Hillary would make a much better president than Obama could ever hope to be. You know what tells me that? I'm still waiting for people in America including Carl and Jack C. to tell the American people how he will change and improve things in America. I'm so tired of hearing " I've nerver been so inspired by anyone". Yeh, that'll put food on the table and make other countries trust you again. You haven't gotten for a while America, try doing what is best for your country instead of who you like to most. |
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| melody |
April 15th, 2008 1:18 pm ET Excellent ! As the mother of an 18 year old daughter who will vote in her first ever election, I wish that she could vote for a female candidate for president. It saddens me to watch the way that Hillary Clinton has chose to run her campaign, and maybe it seems like this campaign has gone on too long, much like the Clinton White House years, but whenever I hear her speak, I cringe. So does my daughter. I DO NOT want the circus back in town either. And while some people look at the Clinton years as a time when much was accomplished, I look at those years as a time when 1. Much more SHOULD have been accomplished if there had been less focus on covering up for lies told to the American people. 2. As a parent, I had to explain the actions of a President to my children, explain the newspaper, explain the blue dress, unravel the mysteries of it all at the same time as keeping them from becoming cynical and disgusted like many adults. No More Please, No more circus. |
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| JB |
April 15th, 2008 1:21 pm ET For years I have had respect and admiration for Hillary. I voted for her in my states primary caucus. However, as this campaign has gone on I have lost respect, angered my her negativity, astounded that when caught in a lie she blew it off and expects voters to do the same. |
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| Sheila |
April 15th, 2008 1:22 pm ET Mr. Bernstein, You have no evidence to support the fact that Hillary's campaign would be the same as her presidency. Past behavior is an important predictor of future behavior, but definitely not the crystal ball that you make it out to be (as any psychologist would tell you). You are trying to practise psychology without a license! This is obviously no unbiased journalism either, but acts like an effort to settle a score! At least try to be a bit more humble in your guesses! Anderson Cooper, watch who you have cover for you. |
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| Nancy, Bethlehem, PA |
April 15th, 2008 1:22 pm ET Thank you, Mr. Bernstein! Your analysis of the Clintons is right on the money. Early in the campaign, I wasn't really paying attention to the debates. There were too many candidates to really get a good flavor for any one of them. I assumed that I'd have to pick the lesser of two evils, as in the last 2 elections. I thought I'd have to force myself to vote for Hillary Clinton because I couldn't vote for a Republican again. |
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| Nicole |
April 15th, 2008 1:23 pm ET Thank you Mr Bernstein! Sen. Obama is our only chance to turn our politics around, focus on the real national 'meat & potatoes' issues, and change the global view of our country. Don't be fooled by the silly rhetoric you hear about 'bitterness' and other words. This is just to distract the voters next week. Hillary, McCain, and the media had nothing interesting to talk about going into the PA elections next week. This just gave them a bandwagon to jump on and stir up their supporters-but it is another pathetic ploy. |
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| nick |
April 15th, 2008 1:23 pm ET everything carl has said couldn't be more dead on. what's funny is hillary supporters still think she has a shot at winning, you're all as delusional as she is |
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| Gregg - Blue Springs, MO. |
April 15th, 2008 1:24 pm ET Read all of the blogs..........count them...........read them again..........almost all (at least 80 |
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| Boosh |
April 15th, 2008 1:24 pm ET 1) How does the writer answer the fact that Hillary Clinton was elected to the US Senate ON HER OWN – TWICE? Hello, she didn't win all the small towns, farmers, yada, yada, She won NYC and other inner city votes. She's a carpet bagger. She's waltz's into NYS and is instantly elected Senator? She won on her name alone. Believe it! |
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| ptaylor |
April 15th, 2008 1:25 pm ET Thank you Mr. Bernstein. One of the best articles I have read to explain the conundrum of the Clintons. I am a registered Republican but I am in the process of changing my party affiliation to Independent. I have voted over the years for whoever I felt was the best candidate, Republican or Democrat. I look forward to the time when I can vote for a woman for President, but it will not be in 2008, even if by chance Senator Clinton is the nominee of her party. |
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| Lisa, N.Y. |
April 15th, 2008 1:27 pm ET This article is refreshing in the sense that there are many people out there that is not falling for Hillary and Bills tactics and smear campaign. She has done nothing for us here in N.Y. but make a lot of promises to get elected and held true to none. And the worst part about it is that each time she is caught in a lie she blames it on others. The false promises in NY couldn't be kept she said because of the Republican party. And now each time she is caught in a obvious lie she blames it on the media piling on or tries to say something like "...well Obama also said blah, blah, blah..." I am just getting so sick of Hillary its ridiculous. I must admit I was kind of hesitant on Obama for a while because I fell into the Hillary propaganda. I regret my earlier vote for her, and I now fully support Obama because his views and open understanding on how we as Americans truly think is refreshing. |
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| Brad K |
April 15th, 2008 1:29 pm ET Wow! The most devastating and most insightful portion of this is the passage where Bernstein points out that notwithstanding her claims to be "ready on Day One," Hillary Clinton has in fact bungled the two most important management jobs she's ever undertaken: health care reform early in Bill's administration, and her own presidential campaign. That's not anti-Hillary spin, that's just good, hard-nosed, objective reporting from one of the best in the business. This ought to be required reading for every Democratic superdelegate. |
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| David D |
April 15th, 2008 1:34 pm ET The responses to Bernstein's blog are as revealing as the blog itself. Some posters report that they are becoming turned off to Clinton. And other posters are merely intensifying their negative portrayals of Obama rather than reflect on what Bernstein had written. These are two of the problems that Bernstein was writing about. In my book, that makes the column's message about the dark side of the Clinton campaign remarkably insightful, no matter how unpleasant that message might be. |
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| BevAnn |
April 15th, 2008 1:36 pm ET I have no problems with this HRC hate diatribe – I already know all the bad stuff. But ok, where's the piece on Obama now? Oh, that's right – nobody knows squat about him! And people wonder why witness don't come forward on crimes that remain unsolved. Turn a blind eye everyone. Sure, why don't ya?! It is so much easier to do that. |
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| Zack |
April 15th, 2008 1:39 pm ET Thanks Carls for this excellent piece of journalism. Hillary's presidency will be a series of brutal fights that will leave the nation more bruised, divided and confused. It will be a non-stop media circus where people turn to see who is Hillary's wrestle mania show. For the life-time chance to have a president with the courage to speak his mind, to have a vision and to trust that we as a nation can do better, we need to look to President Barack Obama. |
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| Tom |
April 15th, 2008 1:40 pm ET Perfect! People need to hear this. I would add that my impression is Hillary is only in it for the book and movie deals sure to come. After all if we re-structure the trade deals in favor of America, Bill won't have any income. |
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| Interesting... |
April 15th, 2008 1:50 pm ET Very interesting that all the Hillary supporters that are criticizing Bernstein's commentary are not refuting any of his assertions. I guess they learned well from the Clinton's and are applying their bait and switch spin. That is exactly the political tactic Bernstein states that the Clintons employ. Wake up Clintonites and think about the future of America for a change, not the anointing of a dynasty. |
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| Anne S. |
April 15th, 2008 1:54 pm ET It's always interesting to me (NOT!) when someone writes as Hillary....ignore these opinions. We supporters stand behind you and |
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| Angela |
April 15th, 2008 1:56 pm ET I would like to respond to the person who enjoyed the peace and prosperity of the 90s under the Clintons. I am glad you did. Please remember, however, that she voted to send our troops to die for the wrong reasons, and now she tells us she is the only one she can bring them home. If you think the media picks on Hillary, take a look at the character assassination she has done on Obama. She lied about his NAFTA while she was for it; she distorted his record on abortion in NH, and she is using his "bitter" comments out of context. Which part of the Clinton's way of the White House was steal and sell your jobs to China are her supporters missing? People in PA were interviewed and they used the word "angry" at the loss of jobs. Senator Obama used a stronger term–and what he said is true. How would she know what poor people feel? She and her 109 millions? I am very sorry, but as a woman, I am insulted that she represents me. I will vote my conscience in November and my vote will not be for Hillary or McCain. |
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| Steven Moores, Canada |
April 15th, 2008 1:57 pm ET Mr.Bernstein, thank you for the summary of the Clintons that we all |
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| keith |
April 15th, 2008 1:57 pm ET When Bill Clinton was president we had jobs.the economy was in great shape. CLINTON OR MCCAIN 2008.............................. |
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| chris N |
April 15th, 2008 1:58 pm ET You people are working really, really hard at this, aren't you? If you're willing to think about facts (i.e., if you're not a media hack), Bill Clinton's presidency was the most successful in a long time. The federal spending deficit was reduced, international respect for the U.S. improved, and a lot of other boring details. But let's deny all that now, so we can be socially acceptable, right? Who cares about history anyway, when speeches and character assassination are so much fun? |
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| PLJ |
April 15th, 2008 1:59 pm ET You got it exactly right, without any untrue name calling, or anything that would have anyone to reject or denounce. This Is ALL Hillary Straight up, and I can appreciate the straight talk/ the Truth, finally from someone where Hillary/The Clintons are concerned. Thank You!, Mr. Bernstein.... |
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| Rod |
April 15th, 2008 2:00 pm ET Like me, Carl Bernstein was a Hillary fan. He wrote a book about her when he, like me, was taken by the idea of her becoming our first female pres! He has echoed every reason I have moved on. His commentary is well-founded, and excellent. |
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| Andrew |
April 15th, 2008 2:08 pm ET Speaking as a male who has yearned for a good female president for many years, I am sympathetic to the women who feel injured by this writing. Obviously it is men who are responsible for our crises of leadership in America. But it is also obvious that Hillary Clinton is not the right woman and this is not her time, for reasons that Carl Bernstein stated so eloquently, and for others that would be merely opinion. Hillary lacks "authenticity" which is Obama's major asset. Obama is the most capable candidate in the history of our nation, to affect a "healing" which more than anything else is what we truly need. Unfortunately, Hillary takes too much money from "special interests" and is therefore not able to be a "people's candidate." Americans ARE bitter, angry and pissed off at being pissed on for too long. Out with the old and in with the new. |
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| deb ablin |
April 15th, 2008 2:09 pm ET I thought Carl Bernstien was precise and to the point regading his evaluation of Hillary Clinton.She has used every trick in the book mostly to her disadvantage. |
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| Lennie |
April 15th, 2008 2:13 pm ET It truly amazes me that some people get so angry and stick their heads in the sand when the objective truth is spoken about someone they like, instead of taking the time to analyze what is being said. Most of this article is born out by the truth as we have witnessed by such as the "sniper fire" and further lied about by Bill, a guy I still think was a good President and who I voted for twice. |
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| Anthony |
April 15th, 2008 2:40 pm ET It is strange that this Bernstein fellow put words together to bad mouth Hillary Clinton. He is right but only because that is his opinion and nothing more. It is nothing but an opinion. That is not Hillary and he really doesn't know her at all. Hillary will be alright in any event no matter what happens. Hillary has accomplished much and no one can take that away no matter what opinions are express good or bad about her. You see, the Constitution allows people like bernstein to speak truths or lies because it is his right to speak truths or lies. He comes across as someone who thinks his biomass does not stink. We know otherwise. |
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| Robin in Virginia |
April 15th, 2008 2:43 pm ET According to your logic, Mr. Bernstein, once Hillary wins the White House she will again regain the popularity and esteem of her colleagues as she did after her Senate win. |
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| Mark |
April 15th, 2008 2:53 pm ET sorry, Carl's put his finger on it exactly. She's smart, she means well, but she thinks she deserves it and no one should get in her way. How dare they!! Mary, take back that feminist anger. What he says is true, and why you are so defensive |
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| Jess |
April 15th, 2008 2:57 pm ET Thank you for an interesting op-ed. While I have been supporting Senator Obama from the start of this race, I have always had a great deal of respect for both Clintons. As this race has progressed I have found my respect has turned to dismay and disgust. |
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| Juanita |
April 15th, 2008 3:14 pm ET THANK YOU!!!! The truth has finally been spoken. The Clinton waged this Name calling,racial divide and lie based campaign. |
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| Art |
April 15th, 2008 3:14 pm ET Bernstein needs to go back into the shadows of the infamous underground parking lot, slink behind a pillar and stay there. |
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| Eric |
April 15th, 2008 3:16 pm ET I used to support Hillary but her negative and misleading campaign has turned me off and now my full support goes for Obama. She is unconvincing (Iraq and NAFTA say it all) and as another reader mentioned below, she looks so phony, with her (now) "all-smiles and warm" image. I know I'm not the only one who has made the switch for the same reasons. I'd love to see a woman as our president in my lifetime but please not this one. |
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| Craig, Seattle, WA |
April 15th, 2008 3:17 pm ET It is completely laughable how so many people have this notion of Obama as untouchable or as though he's come to us on the grace of God... GIVE ME A BREAK. It's a political campaign and both sides will fudge the truth. Obama does NOT walk on water. |
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| Jonathan |
April 15th, 2008 3:19 pm ET I don't understand clinton supporters. It's as if they're blinded and don't want to see the truth. Not only is she a sore loser, but she plays dirty politics, and who wants that for our next president? Our country is hurting enough as it is, we need obama to change the way politics are done, and put this country back on the road it's suppose to be. If she can't even lose graciously, how can she lead us? Every other word coming out of Hilary's mouth is to criticize obama, why can't she just focus on the country instead of obama? Superdelegates need to put this to an end and support Barack Obama. |
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| Marc in PDX |
April 15th, 2008 3:21 pm ET She ain't pretty...she's my sister... or something like that... I guess... |
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| Deana |
April 15th, 2008 3:26 pm ET Mr Bernstein, |
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| Judy Bishop |
April 15th, 2008 3:28 pm ET I will still SUPPORT Senator Clinton. I have already voted for her once and hope to do so again. |
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| Steve in Atlanta |
April 15th, 2008 3:28 pm ET A question for all of you who are complaining that Carl is stating his opinion, is bias, etc. If he had written a piece that glorified Hillary would you be complaining about him expressing his opinion or his obvious bias? I thought not. Hillary is the perfect candidate for you. Nuff said. |
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| Lynda |
April 15th, 2008 3:40 pm ET Bravo Mr. Bernstein!! This is a well written article. |
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| Linda |
April 15th, 2008 3:40 pm ET I thank you so much for your commentary, finally someone had the guts to tell it like it truly is. If this woman gets in the WhiteHouse, Heaven help us all. |
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| Rita |
April 15th, 2008 4:00 pm ET Carl, your arguments are right on target. Bill and Hillary will not get to the White House. AsaDemocrat, I do not want them at the White. Voters are sick of their manipulations Even if she wins Pennsylvania, OBAMA will win the nomination. Enough is enough |
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| Wayne Morrison |
April 15th, 2008 4:01 pm ET I am no longer a fan of Hilary Clinton, but I feel your comments are too extreme. I find myself questioning the objectivity of such comments and the article ends up having less of an impact on me than it could have. |
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| debbie |
April 15th, 2008 4:01 pm ET i have been amazed as how she has sold her soul for the presidency and will even sell out the democratic party if necessary to make it to the presidency. It is a pity that the american women have been represented by her as the first presidential nominee. We in american have many women that would be worthy of the position and would have the common sense and dignity of such a high position in government. Just the way she has ran her campaign against Obama, can tell you exactly what Carl Bernstein is saying. She has not shown any respect for Obama from the beginning. I think Obama is just fed up with her demeaning disposition. She would approach him in the debates as a mother talking to her misinformed child. Obama has really surprised her and Bill. He has ran a tremendous campaign and being black and getting to where he is at this point is the most incredible accomplishment of any politician in the last 50 years in america. So I must say that this man deserves every vote from this country that desperately needs a new image. Hillary give it up, it will be a lot better for your soul. |
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| phil |
April 15th, 2008 4:02 pm ET He sounds like a Republican to me. If we get out of Iraq we'll have chaos and if she gets elected we'll have chaos. I find it very interesting that Carl wants to "vent" at this time. He is one of the many wanna-be "serious talking head pundits" when it's plain to see that he carries some kind of ax to grind. I kinda feel sorry for him as he seems eager to stand at the front of the line and throw the first rock at any potential Hillary Presidency. Get a real job Carl. You haven't had much to offer since the one and only worthwhile thing you ever did. |
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| Rob |
April 15th, 2008 4:06 pm ET Carl Bernstein, you are correct! Another Clinton presidency will keep this country divided in a time that we need to stand together. |
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| Amy |
April 15th, 2008 4:07 pm ET Anderson, Carl, why, in all these months, has no one addressed the following in the media?: Hillary is claiming her greatest experience to be that as spouse to the president she was involved in policy, negotiations, etc. But Hillary is also claiming that if she becomes president her spouse will not be involved in her administration so we should never think if we vote for her we're voting for Bill Clinton as well. Does she think we're stupid? |
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| Barbara |
April 15th, 2008 4:08 pm ET Thank you, Mr. Bernstein for stating the obvious. You know what they say about common sense, it's not really common. Hillary Clinton is constantly proving that she will do anything to win, I believe she is dangerous because of her capability to incite. |
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| ralph davis |
April 15th, 2008 4:08 pm ET Sen. Clinton, in my opinion, is a part of the old establishment. Change for some means, my replacing you and doing about the same old things as before, only will a new icing on the same old cake. |
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| alex |
April 15th, 2008 4:11 pm ET wow, i would expect him of all people to know that all politicians are full of arrogant self-grandioseness. how else could they withstand the force of the public personal attack machine? |
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| Gina Mayfield, Ohio |
April 15th, 2008 4:13 pm ET What a phenomenal article carl! Very true and well written. This is a very misguided woman who only cares about herself to win and not the people. I am for a woman for president but such a woman would have to have integrity and character and morals and be likable! All of her flaws through her campaign have made her "UN" Electable!! |
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| Greg |
April 15th, 2008 4:14 pm ET Very well put. I have been saying from the start that one Clinton in the White House was enough. I also think that Obama isn't a good choice either, In fact this is the first year since I began voting back in the 70's that I feel we don't have a good choice for president. I will vote in the election but it will be for the lessor of two evils. Everyone is too focused on getting a woman or a black into the White House and not on the real issues. I hear all three candidates stating what the problems are in America but none of them have clear plans on what to do. Mccain just wants to hit the problems head on and plow his way through, no matter what the outcome. Clinton and Obama say they have a solution but it is always "the American people need to do something about it" They need to spell out what their plans are. Good luck America. We are going to need it. |
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| Mike |
April 15th, 2008 4:15 pm ET I am struck by how articulate and intelligent she is. On the other hand, and this is a big hand, she thinks the rest of us are fools. I cannot fathom how she could tell and re-tell the story about the Bosnia landing. Similarly, I think Barrack has to get a grip on his words as well. |
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| Emma MacKenzie |
April 15th, 2008 4:16 pm ET I had been a strong Hillary Clinton supporter and advocate until very recently when my mind, conscience, political values, and gut feelings (not to mention my long-term hopes and wishes for the United States and my fellow Americans) could not justify my continued support for her. The main reasons are the negative and scary things that she has revealed about her true self during her campaign - through her conduct, her statements, and her actions. It behooves us to be aware and mindful of the pitfalls that reveal themselves in all political candidates, and it behooves us to be thankful that they are revealed for us to our benefit. Hillar Clinton's recent statement in a televised interview that the Democratic Party ("to put it bluntly," as she said) is out of touch with people unveiled her arrogance and narcissism (in the psychiatric definition of the term), not to mention several other things, like the fact that she was lying to serve her own purposes during the interview, at the expense of the entire Democratic Party. Please note how she spoke about Kerry and Gore during the same interview. At this point, I'm not supporting any candidates, although I have been a Democrat all my life, like my parents and going all the way back to my great-great-grandparents. Two of my uncles were Congressmen. Thank you, Mr. Bernstein, for your courage in stepping forward. Your timely analysis reveals several important facts about Hillary Clinton as a politician, which when viewed in context and seen as a pattern, show the tremendous risks to our nation if she becomes a president. |
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| Bob |
April 15th, 2008 4:16 pm ET Obama's compaign is soooooooooo much smoother than Cinton's. Financiing, positive undertones, consistency, nobody's been thrown under the bus!.... he's come out of nowhere and beaten her head-to-head when nobody was giving him a chance just a few months ago. I may be voting for McCain, but I'm rooting for Clinton to win the Democatratic Primary because she's a mess. |
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| Lauren |
April 15th, 2008 4:17 pm ET Clearly, Bernstein has milked his biography for all he can and the only way he can enjoy more personal gain from Hillary’s campaingn is to draw attention to himself by flip-flopping as he does in this article. |
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| Christy |
April 15th, 2008 4:17 pm ET I am supposed to be Hillary's perfect constituent-a mid 40's white woman. I started out as a solid supporter and have watched with dismay as she crumbled before our eyes. She is lying, deceitful, self-centered and grasping. I will bet that if Obama is the nominee, she will undermine his campaign rather than support it. Yes, I would like to see a woman president in my lifetime but I will not vote for her if she is the candidate. I will stay home. Our country can do so much better than the Clintons. |
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| Marko in Vancouver |
April 15th, 2008 4:18 pm ET As a Canadian, I watch the US political bloodsports with a mixture of awe and amusement. You folks sure know how to conduct a tussle. But as much as you all seem to feel that one candidate or the other is Lucifer incarnate, let me just say that I think all three candidates at present would make excellent choices for leader of the free world. I have no doubt that America is moving in a very positive direction, and the entire planet will benefit in the coming years, regardless of who is chosen on Nov. 4. However, getting back to Mr. Bernstein's so called "comment", this is nothing more than old-fashioned copywriting at its best. Excellent sales letter, Mr. Bernstein, but it saddens me to think that this kind of rhetoric could be presented as journalism. You reached deep into your trash bag and pulled out every conceivable negative slight against Ms. Clinton. Thank God that so-called journalists don't select the leader, but the good people of your amazing nation. |
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| Jen |
April 15th, 2008 4:57 pm ET I must say at 1st I wasn't sure who I would vote for. Considering the presidents we've had in the past, I actually liked the Clintons. But after seeing Hillary on tv and how negative she was, I couldn't help but go for Obama. And it seems like with each passing day she gets worse. So thanks for this article because this is exactly how she would act in the whitehouse and I can see how difficult things might be when working with her. |
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| Flavia of San Mateo, CA |
April 15th, 2008 4:58 pm ET Thanks for an interesting and entertaining article. I too think that Hilary reveals only what she thinks the voters want to see. I thought she was too antagonistic and divisive when I watched her in the debates, and now she has a tone like a yoga instructor, soothing and calming and nurturing. I don't think that's the true Hilary at all. Obama has a blue print for what he will do if elected. It's on his website. For those who say he's clueless, they should read that. He is not ill-prepared. He is what this country needs. |
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| Mel |
April 15th, 2008 6:41 pm ET Thank you Mr. Carl for your shiny opinion. At least some body is realizing how she is dangerous for this country we put it on her. |
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| Marko in Vancouver |
April 15th, 2008 7:19 pm ET Mr. Bernstein (or perhaps Mr. Cooper is listening ...), instead of a rhetorical diatribe expressing your point of view, it would be interesting if you engaged in some real journalism and, for example, wrote a story that backed one of your unsubstantiated accusations. For example, show me stats and numbers and examples of people who have been thrown under the bus. Or interview leading HRC backers who have switched to the Obama camp and find out why. Prove to me that what you assert is true, rather than expecting me to believe your assertion simply because you brought down a President many years ago. Are there any real journalists left in America, or just bitter axe-grinders? |
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| Nick M |
April 15th, 2008 8:06 pm ET Thanks Carl you state what America already knows.We are tired of the War,Economy,Housing and Trade we are Bitter.WE need change.Not Drama. |
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