Hillary Clinton has many admirable qualities, but candor and openness and transparency and a commitment to well-established fact have not been notable among them. The indisputable elements of her Bosnian adventure affirm (again) the reluctant conclusion I reached in the final chapter of A Woman In Charge, my biography of her published last June:

“Since her Arkansas years [I wrote], Hillary Rodham Clinton has always had a difficult relationship with the truth... [J]udged against the facts, she has often chosen to obfuscate, omit, and avoid. It is an understatement by now that she has been known to apprehend truths about herself and the events of her life that others do not exactly share. " [italics added]
As I noted:
“Almost always, something holds her back from telling the whole story, as if she doesn’t trust the reader, listener, friend, interviewer, constituent—or perhaps herself—to understand the true significance of events…”
The Bosnian episode is a watershed event, because it indelibly brings to mind so many examples of this tendency– from the White House years and, worse, from Hillary Clinton’s take-no-prisoners presidential campaign. Her record as a public person is replete with “misstatements” and elisions and retracted and redacted and revoked assertions...
When the facts surrounding such characteristic episodes finally get sorted out - usually long after they have been challenged - the mysteries and contradictions are often dealt with by Hillary Clinton and her apparat in a blizzard of footnotes, addenda, revision, and disingenuous re-explanation: as occurred in regard to the draconian secrecy she imposed on her health-care task force (and its failed efforts in 1993-94); explanations of what could have been dutifully acknowledged, and deserved to be dismissed as a minor conflict of interest - once and for all - in Whitewater; or her recent Michigan-Florida migration from acceptance of the DNC’s refusal to recognize those states’ convention delegations (when it looked like she had the nomination sewn up) to her re-evaluation of the matter as a grave denial of basic human rights, after she fell impossibly behind in the delegate count.The latest episode - the sniper fire she so vividly remembered and described in chilling detail to buttress her claims of foreign policy “experience” - like the peace she didn’t bring to Northern Ireland, recalls another famous instance of faulty recollection during a crucial period in her odyssey.On January 15, 1995, she had just published her book, It Takes a Village, intended to herald a redemptive “come back” after the ravages of health care; Whitewater; the Travel Office firings she had ordered (but denied ordering); the disastrous staffing of the White House by the First Lady, not the President - all among the egregious errors that had led to the election of the Newt Gingrich Congress in 1994.On her book tour, she was asked on National Public Radio about the re-emergence of dormant Whitewater questions that week, when the so-called “missing billing records” had been found. Hillary stated with unequivocal certainty that she had consistently made public all the relevant documents related to Whitewater, including “every document we had,” to the editors of the New York Times before the newspaper’s original Whitewater story ran during Bill Clinton’s 1992 presidential campaign.
Even her closest aides - as in the case of the Bosnian episode18 years later - could not imagine what possessed her to say such a thing. It was simply not true, as her lawyers and the editors of the Times (like CBS in the latest instance) recognized, leading to huge stories about her latest twisting of the facts. “Oh my God, we didn’t,” said Susan Thomasas, Hillary’s great friend, who was left to explain to the White House lawyers exactly how Hillary’s aides had carefully cherry-picked documents accessed for the Times in the presidential campaign. The White House was forced - once again - to acknowledge the first lady had been ‘mistaken;” her book tour was overwhelmed by the matter, and Times’ columnist Bill Safire that month coined the memorable characterization of Hillary Clinton as “a congenital liar.”
“Hillary values context; she does see the big picture. Hers, in fact, is not the mind of a conventional politician,” I wrote in A Woman In Charge. “But when it comes to herself, she sees with something less than candor and lucidity. She sees, like so many others, what she wants to see.”
The book concludes with this paragraph:
“As Hillary has continued to speak from the protective shell of her own making, and packaged herself for the widest possible consumption, she has misrepresented not just facts but often her essential self. Great politicians have always been marked by the consistency of their core beliefs, their strength of character in advocacy, and the self-knowledge that informs bold leadership. Almost always, Hillary has stood for good things. Yet there is a disconnect between her convictions and her words and actions. This is where Hillary disappoints. But the jury remains out. She still has time to prove her case, to effectuate those things that make her special, not fear them or camouflage them. We would all be the better for it, because what lies within may have the potential to change the world, if only a little.”
The jury - armed with definitive evidence like the CBS tape of Hillary Clinton’s Bosnian adventure - seems on the verge of returning a negative verdict on her candidacy.
- Carl Bernstein, 360° Contributor Editor's note: Read other blogs from the 360° team of contributors at cnn.com/360
| Steve |
March 26th, 2008 10:22 am ET I was thinking about Hillery's comments about Obama's minister, and I thought it was somewhat ironic that she would bring up this again. What did she say, if it were her choice she would not have him as her minister? Well, lets look at Hillery and Bill. The only reason I see that she stayed with "Cheaten" B. Clinton is that she was power hungery and needed him to get into politics, with her eye on being president. She stayed with him through his cheating, and even continues to support him after his comments interjecting race over the last few months into the primary. On both accounts she needs him, because on her own she has no real experience and would not be a senator today, let alone in the primary. The way I see it, Obama needed his preacher to get into office. I do not know of any other way he would have gotten the support of the community he needed without the ministers backing. I see no difference in Hill and obama, execpt that Obama has some loyalty to his minister, a nd I can respect him for this. Hill and Bill only use people for what they can get out of people, and then get rid of them. |
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| Cindy |
March 26th, 2008 10:23 am ET What does it matter that she embellished her trip to Bosnia? It isn't hurting anything! All of them embellish on a lot of things! Why are you all picking on her!? I bet if you searched through Obama's trash you'd find stuff he lied about! Give it a rest and get back to the real issues PLEASE!! Cynthia, Covington, Ga. |
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| Charlotte D |
March 26th, 2008 10:29 am ET Carl, Currently being involved in a sticky situation at work which could have been avoided with a little transparency and honest mea culpa, your words resonate with me. The last thing I want is another President who sees his or her own reality and is not forthcoming. On a more personal note, I must say that my daughters accuse me of embelishing history in much the same way that Hillary seems to do. They say, mom, it didn't happen that way. I say, it didn't? I sure could have passed a lie detector test that it did. Charlotte D |
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| Lynne |
March 26th, 2008 10:30 am ET Ms. Clinton's pastor speaking about Rev Wright this morning: ""The Reverend Jeremiah Wright is an outstanding church leader whom I have heard speak a number of times," Snyder wrote. "He has served for decades as a profound voice for justice and inclusion in our society. To evaluate his dynamic ministry on the basis of two or three sound bites does a grave injustice to Dr. Wright, the members of his congregation, and the African-American church which has been the spiritual refuge of a people that has suffered from discrimination, disadvantage, and violence. Dr. Wright, a member of an integrated denomination, has been an agent of racial reconciliation while proclaiming perceptions and truths uncomfortable for some white people to hear. Those of us who are white Americans would do well to listen carefully to Dr. Wright rather than to use a few of his quotes to polarize." |
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| Mark Sebastian |
March 26th, 2008 10:30 am ET Congratulations on a calm and even summary of a very serious issue. This pattern of behavior is consistent with "magical thinking," and is not only ominous in a leader with ultimate responsibility, but is indicative of a potential DSM (psychiatric) category of thinking disorder. |
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| Tyler, New Jersey |
March 26th, 2008 10:33 am ET The one who is perfect should throw the first stone. Hillary is not perfect. Barack isn't perfect. I'm not perfect. No one is. So when Republicans keep the White House, I know who is at fault. Not Hillary. Not Obama. Not McCain. The Media. If the Media would be unbiased, we would all be happy with either/or candidate. Now, I know that if Hillary loses the nomination, I'm voting Republican. And thank you Media. Hillary may not be perfect, but neither are you. Her pro's overpower her few cons. |
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| Velma |
March 26th, 2008 10:56 am ET I personally feel that the reporter from Pittsburgh was planted at the press conference to ask Hillary the question about Obama's pastor. It was too well calculated with her reading from her notes, as not to forget anything that would make Obama look bad before the voting takes place in Pennsylvania First of all the press conference was for Hillary to answer questions concerning her misspoke words on Bosnia. The words were not misspoken, Hillary out right LIED!!! What part don't the news get? |
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| Annie Kate |
March 26th, 2008 10:56 am ET Carl, Shouldn't your piece be labeled as an op-ed piece or commentary;; your article isn't a presentation of facts but an interpretation of facts by yourself. Some of what you say may be accurate but isn't it time for the press and the commentators to let the voters make up their own mind? Why this pressing need to push HRC out of the election now? There are still primaries to be had and if I were one of the voters in those primaries I would want a choice – not a coronation. We all at some point or another tell lies. We all see ourselves as we want to be rather than how others see us. Its just human. While I would prefer that everyone stuck with the truth I know that its not going to happen and to be quite truthful I'm far more comfortable with Hilliary's exaggerations and misstatements than I am with OBama attending a church for 20 years where the pastor exhorts the Christian god to damn America. While that may be old news as Anderson said last night – the memory echoes still. Annie Kate |
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| Tammy |
March 26th, 2008 10:59 am ET "The only ass you can save is your own." I heard that in Al-Anon a long time ago. It's so appropriate for Hillary and Barack at this point in their campaigns. They both lied to the American people. She beefed up the Bosnia trip. He can't seem to remember when he went to church to hear key sermons. If I have to choose between a person creating a myth to make her foreign policy exploits exciting or a person lying about when he went to church to learn about and experience the God he claims to believe in so much, I'm going with the first one. Lying about your career moves is one thing. Lying about church, your pastor, and your faith to save yourself is a new level of sleeze that even the worst killers in the Mafia know better than to touch. Neither candidate has given a good enough answer as to why they did what they did on these issues as well as the other lies they've been caught in during their political careers. I think telling the truth might just help them save their own asses with those who find very little of what they say remotely believable at this point. What I believe to be most amusing, though, is that the media continues to fuel this fire creating more damage and division among voters when you'd think everyone would be trying to come together to attempt to win in November. I'd love to know when Americans are going to smarten up and see this for the travesty that it is. |
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| allxdreamer |
March 26th, 2008 11:00 am ET The truth is Obama doesn't have anything on Hillary that he can sucessully use and they are so hoping Hillary will says something they can use against her. They dissect all her words, comments, praying to get something. Obama has destoyed his reputation with ppl like Wright, FARRAKIN, Tony RESIN, and being photographed with the Kenyon Ritual outfit, etc. So the Obama compaign wants Hillary to talk person. Hillary has kept to the issues. Whereas Obama has had to explain himself. To be it is a shame that Obama has bought racism into this campaign. Because we had enough problems before this all came up. If a black person wanted to run for President, a qualified black person should have been selected. Not Obama. Obama has issues with his religion, where he was a muslim until 20 years ago where he says he converted to Christian, yet has been attending a church where muslim leaders come to speak and is awarded in his church. And they we have Obama' pastor of 20 yrs cursing America. The pastor Obama said has inspired him. What kind of idiots are voting for this man? When the right black man or woman runs for President, one who loves all ppl and most of all loves "this Country, the UNITED STATES, I will be very open minded to vote for them. But Obama is not that person. It only proves through articles like this one how devious he is. I surely wouldn't want a person as devious as obama and his campaign. Obama is playing unfair and CNN is catering to him. Thumbs down for CNN. |
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| T. Beaconsfield ,PA |
March 26th, 2008 11:01 am ET . . . .NAFTA . . . .TAX RETURNS . . .BOSNIA . . . .ILLUSION . . .DELLUSION. Obama 08. |
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| Shay - Texas |
March 26th, 2008 11:11 am ET You know. I've never liked her, but at least I thought she was some form of honest. The fact that this story was so unbelievably wrong along with the fact she snapped back when confronted about it "You know what I made a mistake, I'm human..." There's better ways she could've handled it. And a smle after a rude comment makes me like her even less. EEK. |
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| allxdreamer |
March 26th, 2008 11:16 am ET Sure it is old news when it comes to Obama and his pastor saying God **** America. But Hillary's tax returns of six years ago to current is not old news. CNN is very partial to Obama and is not fair to Hillary. This article is spectulation and implying Hillary is not telling the truth and there is just no facts to support this. Obama is desperate to try to find something on Hillary and he has not been able to do that. Yet Obama can say he will not disclose his information as like his relationship with TonY RESIN and that is all of that subject. Hillary |
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| Jo-Ann |
March 26th, 2008 11:21 am ET Hey Steve, above who wants to know why Hillary would bring up the Pastor story "again" – Steve she never commented on that – she saw that as Obama's skeleton and she know it would take care of itself – however the other day when asked by a reporter "what she would have done", she answered it. See you don't know everything Steve. Hope that cleared it up for you – Next ! |
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| Trish |
March 26th, 2008 11:23 am ET I am just fed up with the Love Affair between Obama and the media. Hillary Clinton and her family are the most hated family in America. Why? Some of the things that have come from the Obama campaign and contributors are no better if not worst. You can say the torture they go through when reporting anything negative about that campaign. America has not had a chance to get to kbnow this man. They candy coat if not even ignore stories to help us got to know him and that angers me. I am very suspicious of their motives ,is it a Love Affair or just tryinmg to stick it to the Clinton's. I am tired of the treatment of the Clinton's I was no great fan but watching a family just ripped to pieces by the media , every word that comes out of their mouth is scrutinized word for word when everyone else gets a pass. Let's be real, they are all politicians and they all will do whatever it takes to win. Not just the clintons. The media (MSNBC) should just come out the closet and endorse Obama. It is hilarious I don't think they even realize they are doing it, they just can't help themselves. |
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| J Buck |
March 26th, 2008 11:23 am ET I listen to the Media and have to LOL many times. I am not a Hillary supporter, however I know (and so does the Media) that she was asked the question as to Obama and Rev Wright and she answered as to how she felt. What the heck is wrong w/you guys? |
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| Sam |
March 26th, 2008 11:24 am ET Annie Kate: Shouldn’t your piece be labeled as an op-ed piece or commentary as well? It seems that everyone has a view that's biased. It took only one sentence to see where you were headed. Deflection is not an answer as well. You rather have a liar, a documented one at that who has made $ from this story than someone who attends church that had a pastor who said things that were controversial. Not the candidate but the Pastor. It is good he has a place of worship though. What church does Hillary go to again? It eludes me as it does her. There's nothing worse than a made up war story and trust me as a Veteran it's a show stopper. What ever happened to being as good as your word. She promised 200K jobs to Buffalo and it's -30K. She said this was based upon Gore being elected as President! In the end as being born and raised upstate I'm not really proud of her representing my state. Hey maybe Hillary is like Obama. What Hillary said was.."WORDS...., JUST WORDS." Syracuse...signing off. |
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| Allyn |
March 26th, 2008 11:24 am ET Cindy, when you're trying to prove your experience in a way that will help your candidacy and end up lying about it, the American public really has to question what other "misstatements" she's made during the course of her campaign. Are her health care promises going to be "retracted"? What about her plan for getting troops out of Iraq? I don't trust this woman and I never will. |
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| Gail |
March 26th, 2008 11:27 am ET Who cares? Can we ALL get back to the main issue, which is defeating McCain and his ilk (Republicans) in November? Go Hillary! |
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| Brian Walker |
March 26th, 2008 11:27 am ET Maybe if Hillary had Obama's minister, she wouldn't tell so many mistruths? Maybe Hillary's minister never covered "Thou Shalt Not Lie"? |
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| A. Robinson |
March 26th, 2008 11:27 am ET Everyone just needs to SHUT-UP and Vote!!!!! Stop letting the media decide our elections. |
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| Victoria |
March 26th, 2008 11:29 am ET Many of us, politicians certainly included, embellish certain things. But for a candidate to "remember" running across the tarmac under sniper fire? I don't think there's a remote possibility you'd forget those circumstances if they were true. It's like watching George Bush/Karl Rove/et al insist that black is white all over again. No thank you. I had come around to really respect Hillary, but not anymore. I think we all just got a glimpse of the Real Hillary, and I don't like it one bit. |
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| Scott |
March 26th, 2008 11:29 am ET Give me a break! Of course we will find some inaccuracies in her record from what she remembers. This happened a decade ago, WHO CARES. Did it affect foreign policy? NO. Did it affect the Bosnians? NO. I'm certain there are plenty of inaccuracies in Obama's life, but then again where was he and who was he 10 years ago? And now that Hillary is questioning Obama's relationship with his pastor, they say "how can she stoop so low"? At least its current and relavent to his morals and the CURRENT issues at hand. |
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| Ed, Santa Fe, NM |
March 26th, 2008 11:29 am ET Hillary is clearly a liar. She has lied about her "experience" across the board, and this is well documented, especially now that her White House papers have been released. Anyone still wonder why she stalled their release? After 8 years of presidential lies from Bush, we do NOT need another LIAR in the White House. Obama '08 |
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| Kris |
March 26th, 2008 11:29 am ET I don't care about the Bosnia thing, it just doesn't matter. I don't think she lied, she just saw the incident as a little dangerous. On the other hand, we have Obama who has out-right lied about things, called his grandmother a typical white person(what exactly does that mean?). I find him to be racist. Bernnut is crazy and hates the Clintons so much that he just can't let go. Who cares what he has to say anyway. He thinks because of his past we care about his rantings and that is exactally what they are...rantings. Ignore the fool. |
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| Jon P. |
March 26th, 2008 11:29 am ET I voted for Hillary in the primary, and now regret that I did. While the Bosnian story may not be critical, in and of itself, when combined with other recent developments, it paints a disturbing picture. My greatest concern arises from Hillary's "3 a.m. phone call to the commander-in-chief" business. This shows a greater concern for her own skin than with getting her party elected; such a statement is bound to hurt any Democratic presidential candidate and help McCain, and she should have realized as much. At one time, I thought Hillary would be more electable than Obama. I no longer do. Between her unpleasant personality and her tendency to stretch the truth, she offers serious potential liabilities to the Democrats. Her flip-flop on Iraq and general center-right voting record doesn't help much, either. No doubt about it, she is a woman of great ability, but that ability would be best utilized in a Cabinet position or some other advisory capacity. Unlike her husband, she is not a people person. . .and boy is that showing now. Jon |
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| Rhonda |
March 26th, 2008 11:29 am ET Cynthia from Georgia, What "real issue" is more real than truth?? What else needs to be discussed? Obviously, this woman can't be trusted. We really don't need any more gaffes to point this out. Anyone who can't see that after eight horrendous years of Bill and Hill's escapades has on blinders! |
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| Rob L. |
March 26th, 2008 11:30 am ET And what are her qualities again? I see a divisive liar whose self interest is paramount to all, someone who dismisses the people as idiots, for we can't handle her truth.... Everybody calls her the comeback kid? Comeback from what? She's as priviliged as they come. |
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| Oki Niali |
March 26th, 2008 11:30 am ET What do you expect of the Clintons? Theirs is a marriage of convenience based on selfish agendas. Thanks Carl! |
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| Marni |
March 26th, 2008 11:30 am ET A lie is a lie no matter how you spin it. |
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| Andy McCormick |
March 26th, 2008 11:30 am ET Mr. Bernstein makes some good points, but he sounds a whole bunch more like Dr. Phil than Bill Safire. |
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| Michael M. Noonan |
March 26th, 2008 11:30 am ET Bill said he would liked to have broken Safire's nose for calling his wife a congenital liar. I wonder how many noses he would have to break now. Shameless, isn't she? |
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| jb |
March 26th, 2008 11:30 am ET cynthia, character and honesty DO matter. We need leaders who have a moral compass and can offer good judgement. A leader who lies and is so insecure that she must fabricate stories is no leader – she is a farce. put away the rose colored glasses and see Billary for what she is – an insecure, lying meglo-maniac who will stop at nothing to win the presidency – including trashing the democratic party for her selfish agenda. McCain 08 |
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| Jeanne Beans |
March 26th, 2008 11:30 am ET This was a very powerful article! And sadly, it's the truth. All political banter aside, Hillary Clinton is a dangerous invidual whom we shouldn't even be considering being in charge of our country. There is something psychologically wrong with her. I say narcissism, but I'm not one in a position to diagnose. The Democrats so inclined to be afraid to go against her need to find the courage to do so, and all the Democrats need to find a way to end this primary process NOW. Give Barack Obama the nomination so there's time for the party to recover before November. The division she is causing now is not healthy or helpful. This most recent lie...just think about it. Did she make it up and knowingly lie or did she really make a mistake and thought there was sniper fire? Strange also that no one who traveled with her would have corrected her (her daughter, Sinbad, Sheryl Crowe). Or if they did, why didn't she save face before having the truth force her to fess up? She knowingly lies and only tells the truth when forced to. Very very dangerous woman! |
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| Aaron - Iowa |
March 26th, 2008 11:30 am ET I cant believe how many people feel that Hillary Clinton is being picked on and singled out...Her entire poilitcal life has been shrouded in lies and deceit and she has been brought into court on a consistent basis over the last 20 years for questioning... She brought this all on herself...Ask yourselves, "If she was such an honest, upstanding politician, why havent people left her alone?" Poor Poor Hillary.... |
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| Dan - Colorado |
March 26th, 2008 11:30 am ET I saw three clips on Larry King Live last night that showed Hillary Clinton talk about dodging sniper fire at the airport in Bosnia. I also saw the actual footage of her arrival on the airport tarmac in Bosnia. Let me be blunt. Her tale of sniper fire was not a mistake, but a blatant lie. Will Ms Clinton's new campaign slogan be, 'No one died when Hillary lied"? |
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| Kevin |
March 26th, 2008 11:30 am ET Nobody cares about this stuff. Why has the only news about this campaign over the last 2 weeks been about pastors and Bosnian snipers? Is the press bored of talking about the issues? No wonder people are so cynical about politics. |
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| Diane |
March 26th, 2008 11:30 am ET You make some great points allxdreamer!!! DOWN WITH OBAMA!!! HE ISN'T FIT TO BE A SENATOR, MUCH LESS PRESIDENT!! |
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| w lee |
March 26th, 2008 11:30 am ET MISTRUTHS? MISSTATEMENTS? come on....what is a mistruth? a mistruth is a lie. say what it is media. |
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| Charles S. |
March 26th, 2008 11:30 am ET It's interesting how both Hillary and Bill get a "pass" on their actions when the truth comes out. They are both power hungry liars, plain and simple. We don't need them. Let's be done with the whole Clinton / Bush era. It's been one of the most divisive stretches in our history. |
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| TedH |
March 26th, 2008 11:30 am ET There is a definite credibility problem with someone who cannot remember if they were being shot at. In her effort to make herself bigger than she is..... She exaggerated. Having been a flyer in the military for 26 years, I have unfortunately seen others there are only there for a photo op to portray themselves as a dignitary. With our gullible public watching every move, it is unfortunate that the truth never becomes public. We often believe what we want to see. What a fake! |
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| Barry Chien |
March 26th, 2008 11:30 am ET Hillary is conniving period. Something about her makes me not want to trust her. Obama is straight and I love him for that. In the book Blink, Malcolm Gladwell says that your gut instinct and intuition will allow you to judge a person within the first several seconds. This applies to college professors – the book revealed that a student's first impression about a professor is strongly correlated with how a professor is judged at the end of the semester. Likewise, thumbs down to Hillary, thumbs up to Obama. Ignore the pro-Hillary comments early in this comments column since it's Hillary's PR that is trying to help her save face. |
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| Dan |
March 26th, 2008 11:30 am ET For the people that keep supporting hrc, please open your eyes. She doesn't care about you. Obama 08 |
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| Erik Sederberg |
March 26th, 2008 11:30 am ET Facts seem to be at odds with Hillary Clinton. Unfortunately, her love-hate relationship with facts is taking up so much more of the news cycle than the refreshing truthful campaign of Obama–especially his speech on race. By throwing a stick, Hillary's campaign has effectively distracted the press AGAIN from actually giving us the context behind the news. The "journalists" of today are more interested in the cat-fight aspect between the two camps instead of simply broadcasting the facts. This story needs to be shown much more prominently in order for the American public to see exactly how much of a sham she is. And one more note: Hillary has said that she would've disassociated herself from Rev. Wright because of the ideas and behaviors he was exhibiting. Why did she not disassociate herself from President Clinton when it was proven that his ideas and behaviors were just as bad? The only answer is that she stuck by him because of her relentless pursuit of power. She is condemning Obama because his pastor had somewhat militant views on black and white relations, yet keeps Bill around (even though his definitions of "sexual contact" and "is" differ from pretty much every person in the country) because she believes that she can ride his coattails all the way to Pennsylvania Avenue. Therefore, I believe that Obama is the right choice for President. Either him or Al Gore. Or both. |
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| Lee |
March 26th, 2008 11:31 am ET She might've been TOLD there had been sniper fire (or the possibility of it) before actually landing in Bosnia......I mean, I'm sure she had the safety of her daughter Chelsea to worry about!!!!! |
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| Jenny |
March 26th, 2008 11:31 am ET I'm going to have a heart attack before she is done! Someone please step in and stop her. I wrote Edwards the day he left the campaign and asked him to step up and help this country. Please contact him and ask him to support Obama. I feel it is the only way we can get her to stop! |
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| Dan (TX) |
March 26th, 2008 11:31 am ET Even her explanation of her "minor blip" was hillaryous! It's impossible to speak "millions of words" in a single day – look it up. In the U.S. Military, we call those people "losers" and take care of them appropriately. |
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| Apaul |
March 26th, 2008 11:31 am ET The truth is Hillary has no meaningful experience, PERIOD. And apparently no integrity. If the media is so pro obama why is it that everyone said Barrack lied when he did not, then turn around and say that Hillary misspoke, when it's obvious she lied. You mean to tell me that you are running for president and it is no big deal to you when you let untruths fly out your mouth on three occasions? Not the kind of qualities I'm looking for in my next president. |
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| kmiller |
March 26th, 2008 11:31 am ET .......... the snipers MISSED. |
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| tim |
March 26th, 2008 11:31 am ET Hillary lied to make herself look better. She claims she mispoke partly due to exhaustion, but CNN showed clips of her telling elements (niper fire, cork screw landing) of the same false story on three seperate occasions in the last few months. Some don't seem to understand that it isn't a good thing to lie about your expirience when that's your only differentiating campaign tool. There's no doubt that Hillary hasn't ben 100% clean on other comments (I'm sure Obama hasn't either) too and she dos have a long standing record of exactly that. Commenting on Rev Wright the same day was an obvious political play. Seemingly play #1 in the Clinton playbook. The worst part of all of this isn't that she's lieing about her experience, because unless your a Clinton disciple you probably realized that was going on. The worst part is that this lie may have gone unnoticed if it weren't for comedian Sinbad (he was on the same trip) pointing it out. |
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| Chris -- Cleveland |
March 26th, 2008 11:31 am ET Hillary's plan is to lie with such conviction that she can make it "truth". I can't believe how many people just don't care. Would you want someone representing your interests who constantly lies for their own ends? LYING CONSTANTLY is not a "non-issue". |
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| Joan |
March 26th, 2008 11:32 am ET Obama does not know a tax he does not like, he's opposed to murders being put to death however it's just fine to kill babies in the womb, he's not for nafta but his primary consultant is (who we all know he sent to the Canadian Consul), he's not for the war but he said Pres Bush was right in 2004 and voted for all pertaining to the war, he's for hope and change and attends a Church who has a leader who is a USA hater, he's for those who needs help but who purchased a home for 350,000 less than value and his mafia/Iraq for oil friends' wife purchases lot next door for 350,000 more than the lot is worth on the same day and both deals recorded in the wives names (I"m a 25 yr Real Estate Pro and know what that means) – he's for the average people (like heck he is). He talks about bottom to up to make changes and of course he's on the "top" – like heck he is again. He throws his grandmother under the bus, but why don't we hear him do the same to his father who abandoned Obama at 2 years old ! |
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| gerry |
March 26th, 2008 11:32 am ET The lie about Bosnia in one thing, the lie about NAFTA is something else again. These lies show a breakdown in the person's moral code and integrity-not a good thing for a Prsident. However, there are bigger issues the press should be dealing with concerning Hillary and her tendancy to either lie or with hold the truth. These issues include no filing tax information for 8 years, not providing the list of donars for the Presidential libray or the Clinton charity and not producing her earmarks. With 1 donor to the charity rumored to have donated in excess of 130 million as payment for Bill's services in doing a deal with the Kurakistan government ona uranium mine-these things need to be vetted. |
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| Russ |
March 26th, 2008 11:32 am ET Anderson, come on, what has a mispoken word or two TEN YEARS PLUS AGO |
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| MichelleB |
March 26th, 2008 11:32 am ET Back to one of the original references about ministers, as I recall Bill Clinton called upon Rev. Jesse Jackson to 'advise' him about his indiscretion with Monica! Jesse Jackson – REALLY – immediately after his council, it was outted that he had a child with employees. This has never been a topic of conversation. How can a cheater council a cheater? Did they swap pointer on how not to get caught next time? |
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| lou |
March 26th, 2008 11:32 am ET Wow...who sounds like the empty suit now? |
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| tisha |
March 26th, 2008 11:32 am ET All 3 of the candidates scare the living hell out of me....sad that this is the best the country can come up with....we have no statesmen any longer....we have mediocrity..... sad that America is having to "settle" between 3 such possible candidates. Oh, for someone who has some GUTS and is willing to see that we are in the process of dismantling our democracy and our country. |
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| Richard |
March 26th, 2008 11:32 am ET I was listening to CNN at approximately 10:08 am when i head Hillary Clinton making excuses about her account in Bosnia. During her comment she said she had SLEEP DEPRAVATION when she made that comment. If she has problems making true statements because of SLEEP DEPRAVATION, how can she make solid decisions when answering that 3 am call. |
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| Mike, Arkansas |
March 26th, 2008 11:32 am ET I totally agree that she distorts the facts, she lies and avoids when she wants and she withholds documents and information that can prove her wrong in many ways. The watergate documents were never handed over according to information I read. There were Forged documents found in the whitehouse (whether that was going to be her cover up or not who knows) but the originals never came to surface. I have heard of a paper shredding party in Little Rock around that time. Dont know how true that is. But the fact remains... her facts are distorted.. and she lies and then turns the tables to smear someone to take the eyes off her and put them on someone else. To me that is not going to cut it for a President. I want to know the truth about things, not distorted information to keep the blame off her. |
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| Dave L, Indiana |
March 26th, 2008 11:32 am ET Will Anderson or somebody out there please dispel this myth that it is mathematically Impossible for either clinton or obama to reach the magic number of 2024 delegates before the convention. The way I see it, Harry Reid just said today that "this thing will be settled soon." Take that in combination with his statement that the michigan and florida delegates will be counted, then we can see the tea leaves– the DNC will seat the florida and michigan delegates by splitting them evenly for the two candidates. If that's done, then Obama only needs about 200 delegates to secure the nomination. With ten states left and over 300 superdelegates still uncommitted, how can we still say that it is impossible to reach the magic number? |
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| Erick |
March 26th, 2008 11:33 am ET A politician is a politician , folks! Hilary is by no means a forthright person as piece states above but there aren' t any policitian running for the White House who can honesltly claim to stick to the facts ...please this is politics and objectivity and facts are secondary to the rhetoric, mistatements and subjective statements that our candidates make... lets talk about the candor, openess and transperancy of the BUSH-CHENEY Whitehouse not sure if the Clintons were cut above or not ...but I like my applicants to be doers not just sayers...Today our domestic front is a disaster.... credibility globally undermined d/t our great intelligence.... and mission is not accomplished in Iraq... would candor,sincerity, honesty be too much to ask ...NO but LETS GET THE JOB DONE... philosophy, words, fluffy rhetoric for a country in less trouble. Tired of rhetoric into action |
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| bill in houston |
March 26th, 2008 11:33 am ET Hillary Clinton is a 'congenital liar' that was the best part, I had almost forgotten about it Its as true now as it was then. God help us if she steals the white house |
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| Richard |
March 26th, 2008 11:34 am ET I was listening to CNN at approximately 10:08 am when I heard Hillary Clinton making excuses about her account in Bosnia. During her comment she said she had SLEEP DEPRAVATION when she made that comment. If she has problems making true statements because of SLEEP DEPRAVATION, how can she make solid decisions when answering that 3 am call. |
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| Danny in Pittsburgh |
March 26th, 2008 11:34 am ET How many of you Hillary posters READ a word of what Bernstein asserts here??? |
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| Joe |
March 26th, 2008 11:35 am ET Hillary is a ruthless liar who will say and do anything to gain power. A very dangerous person indeed. |
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| Jake |
March 26th, 2008 11:35 am ET allxdreamer....is delusional. |
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| Ann Séror |
March 26th, 2008 11:35 am ET MLK would not have been Hillary's pastor either! |
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| Mike in Texas |
March 26th, 2008 11:35 am ET In this election year, character matters more than anything else. In terms of character, no one beats McCain. Obama is showing himself to be more and more shallow and deceitful with each passing day. Hillary is, well, Hillary. |
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| Rob |
March 26th, 2008 11:35 am ET The Clintons have a history of lying. There are 300,000,000 +/- people in the USA. How can anyone tolerate a liar as commander in chief. Amazing how people will hold their leaders to lower standards than they would hold for their 3 year old child. I'm also dissappointed that the media seems to have forgotten who threw the first stone in the Dem race. Hillary went negative before Ohio and Texas and should be called on it everytime she's in front of the press. Stop accepting this nonsense about Obama going negative. Proving your opponet lied is not negative, is called embracing the truth. Clintonites, try it once in while, you may like it. For the people....WAKE UP! Enough of these entrenched politicians. Get a friggin clue! Haven't you had enough BS for one lifetime? |
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| Vicky Bretz |
March 26th, 2008 11:35 am ET In Arkansas, we call a person who contorts the truth and purposely can't recall events correctly, a Big Fat Liar. Who wants someone so "forgetful" for our President anyway? |
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| Anthony |
March 26th, 2008 11:35 am ET We want a president that seeks to hold the office to wield it to the benefit of the people of this country. The Office of the Presidency should be seen as a means to an end, not the end, the end of a long planned out career to be striven for and sought after like the surface is searched for by a drowning man – AT ALL COSTS. Obama seems to have touched this desire of the American people and for this, Clinton has no chance of victory. Anthony, Stamford, CT |
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| vjh |
March 26th, 2008 11:36 am ET one word......DILLUSIONAL. |
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| tim |
March 26th, 2008 11:36 am ET "I know (and so does the Media) that she was asked the question as to Obama and Rev Wright and she answered as to how she felt. What the heck is wrong w/you guys?" No one is bashing her for answering the Rev Wright question. They're just pointing out the timing. We all know she's been asked that question every single day fo nearly two weeks and hasn't answered it. All people are pointing out is that she used it as a political hip to divert media attention from her lies. |
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| TSimpson |
March 26th, 2008 11:36 am ET I am soooooooooooo tired of everyone coming down on Obama. Over all I think he will be the best person for President. The media is running with stories to slander his name to rip him apart. I think that is sad. Hillary on the other hand is a liar and a person who makes herself looks like a victim all the time. Now, everytime someone from her camp takes a stab at Obama it's okay nothing is said. But things circulate about Obama he has to defend and explain his self everytime. Hillary makes up stories to show she has all this experience and personally, she has none. In addition, Bill and her surrounded themselves with known criminals but no one is speaking on that just google the Clinton convictions and you will see a list of people. |
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| Joyce |
March 26th, 2008 11:36 am ET Hillary reminds of another politician, some guy that ran for President a while back. What was his name? Oh yea, John Kerry. Remember the Swiftboat story and all the embleished stories he told. He had his own truth, just like Hillary. I don't want a President that lives in another reality. |
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| Javed |
March 26th, 2008 11:36 am ET Fact of the matter is everyone in politics has baggage, more experiences means more baggage ............ that's why I like Obama, he is new, different, change, he sticks to his words/ideas (Rev. Wright), he is in for good ............ and I would like to see the vicious cycle of Bush/Clinton/Bush/Clinton to break .......... Obama 08. |
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| Douglas White |
March 26th, 2008 11:36 am ET Carl, And don't get me started on Obama. If you don't believe things that a Pastor says, then don't stay a part of his congregation. Seems like the best person for the job may simply be McCain. |
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| Phil in KC |
March 26th, 2008 11:36 am ET I had supported Biden and then Edwards. So, after they dropped out, I really had no great preference one way or the other between Obama and Clinton. Even on Super Tuesday, I could not pull the lever for either candidate. So I (along with 2% of all Missouri Democrats) voted for Edwards, even though he had suspended his campaign. |
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| Martin |
March 26th, 2008 11:36 am ET The current administration has a rather "distant" relationship with facts. Do we really want another fact twisting government ? Hillary will SPIN from day one. Give her an Academy Award, but |
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| Another Steve |
March 26th, 2008 11:37 am ET I'm a Hillary supporter. She did look bad and I wish she had done a better job of explaining the embellishment. At the same time, she did go. It was dangerous. And, the outcome by everyone involved did a great deal toward healing diplomacy in Bosnia. I'll still take works over words any day. |
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| Connie in Minnesota |
March 26th, 2008 11:37 am ET Lynne, Thank you for posting the comments of Hillary's pastor. Wonderful! |
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| Mauri |
March 26th, 2008 11:38 am ET Carl, I hope everyone reads your article about Hillary all the way through so your qualifying statements concerning her actions won't be ignored. In your lines concerning what seasoned politicians should say, and how they should say it, was surely a criticism of her, but I should like to point out that it applies to Obama as well. The day we elect anyone to any office who has a pearly white record of saying the truth, is the day that should be declared a holiday. As for Hillary's comment about the preacher, what was wrong with her saying it? She is as entitled to her opinion about him as Obama's mouthpiece is to calling President Clinton a "Joe McCarthy" for "questioning tje Senator's patriotism. |
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| Paul |
March 26th, 2008 11:38 am ET The important point here is what she is lying about. Bringing peace to Northern Ireland. False. Opening the borders in FYROM (aka Macedonia). False. Dodging sniper fire in Bosnia. False. All of these have been cited by Hillary multiple times in support of her claim of experience in foreign affairs. It's all nonsense. It isn't an issue of everyone does it (they don't) but a serious character flaw in the individual. I used to like and admire Hillary. Her slash and burn run for the presidency and her serious difficulty with the truth (NAFTA anyone?) has certainly stopped that. |
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| jj |
March 26th, 2008 11:38 am ET OK just say you're for Obama, don't pretend to be open minded about this. You've picked your nom. ok just say so. You don't need to cut the other person down. She has been to so many countries, and I'm sure what happened, happened somewhere else. You remember things in bits & pieces but you remember them, I'm sure she's checking things out to find out where she was when that happened. She isn't lying about her experience, no matter how hard Obama tries to make it out, her office was closer to Bill Clintons that Gore's was, she was in meetings all the time. That's the experience that counts. |
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| JA Cook |
March 26th, 2008 11:38 am ET It has seemed that the Clintons – both of them – have a constant habit of being untruthful or skillfully evasive of the truth. With Hillary's emphasis on her qualifications being heavily padded with exaggerations and outright lies, this is an important aspect of her character that has to be considered. People are fired all the time for resume padding. How can we "hire" a President who has falsified her credentials? Bush has proven that a President who lies to us can be very dangerous. Do we really want to repeat History with a third consecutive liar? |
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| Michael |
March 26th, 2008 11:38 am ET CBS News has good advice for Clinton: "A reminder that in politics, memory should always match the video tape." |
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| ed |
March 26th, 2008 11:40 am ET If we as a country can accept another liar we are in a a path of self destruction. I read some of the comments left by other readers and I encourage all of the Hillary supporters to take a step back and clearly analyze what Hillary says and does, this is a person who cares for herself and no one else. Lying is a sickness and she definetly lies all the time. |
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| JA Cook |
March 26th, 2008 11:40 am ET Hillary is telling us that there were weapons of minor destruction in Bosnia |
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| Terrt S |
March 26th, 2008 11:40 am ET NOBAMA!!!! Hillary 08! I won't for vote anyone who goes to church with a pastor that promotes white racism. NOWAY! NOBAMA! |
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| Elina |
March 26th, 2008 11:40 am ET I personally like both candidates. I think both of them have positive and negative qualities. If you go on the political tab on CNN and check out their political stance you'll see how similar they are and I think it's pretty ridiculous that people are so quick to judge either one. Hillary exaggerated the truth, we all do it. I mean anytime you tell a story you want to make the story appealing to people so you emphasize the facts and no offense but unless you told the story the moment it happened, there is no way any of us can remember exactly how something happened. I don't agree with Obama's minister's comments. I don't think the problem would exist had he just been his minister and not involved in the Obama campaign. I also don't think it's fair what Geraldine Ferraro said but I can understand the frustration. You have two candidates with similar views and ultimately they are both politicians and people are making a saint out of one and a mockery of another. That's not very fair now is it? Focus on the issues and not the person – don't just say I'm voting for Obama because he's black or for Hillary because she's a woman. Vote for the person who's views are those you best agree with. |
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| Wilson |
March 26th, 2008 11:40 am ET "What does it matter that she embellished her trip to Bosnia? It isn’t hurting anything! All of them embellish on a lot of things! Why are you all picking on her!? I bet if you searched through Obama’s trash you’d find stuff he lied about! Give it a rest and get back to the real issues PLEASE!! Cynthia, Covington, Ga. It's one thing to embellish an event such as there were fifty snipers as oppose to one or two. It's another to out right lie, we were under sniper attack when they were not. The issue here is lying to the public. Who does it hurt if baseball players use steriod or HGH and then lie about it? It hurt no one, but the fact is they lie about it. Why will we spend million of dollars to have hearing on this issue? Are we so naive that we are willing to support a candidate that is a liar? Last time this country elected a candidate that lies we ended up in a war in Iraq and the economy in the toilet. |
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| Joan |
March 26th, 2008 11:41 am ET All of the Hillary fans out there MUST remember that if she lies, she lies. Do we want another president who changes history facts to meet their own reality??????? |
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| J.J.S. |
March 26th, 2008 11:41 am ET I have been a huge Hillary fan for most of my greater teenage and adult life. I truly looked up to her as a woman of conviction, inspiration, honesty, intelligence and self worth. After watching her run her presidential campaign and finding out so many things about her I am truly ashamed... I had honestly hoped that she and Obama could make this presidential race for the democrats something more honorable... Hillary has chosen to take the road of smear tactics on more than one occasion... She's tried making herself the victim... And now that it's come out that she's embellished (which is just a fancy word for LIED) a story about a trip to Bosnia that she herself has used as a significant piece of evidence in her ability in foreign policy, people are blaming the media?? SHE DID ALL OF THAT HERSELF!! Sure Obama has had his own moments too... NO ONE is perfect, but the thing is here, she LIED!!! She "stretched" the truth!! Sure, maybe it wasn't about something serious as many of you have noted, but if she lied about that, what else has she lied about?? Carl has pointed to many other instances that she embellished the facts about... It truly does make me sad to think that I've supported and defended this woman for so many years.... I truly thought that she was going to be a kind of person to bring about change in our political system but she is proving to me on a daily basis that that is untrue... She's just like every other lying snake in office who is all about the "ME" factor and the power... |
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| L. Jones - CA |
March 26th, 2008 11:41 am ET Again – - I have a problem trusting anyone who shows a consistent lack of integrity. Her whole career has been splotched with her problem of telling lies and hiding the truth. Too many articles in papers, magazines and news reports about her in this regard for me to ever give her the benefit of the doubt. She comes off as a power hungry woman who will say and do anything to get what she wants – - more power!! |
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| MIke |
March 26th, 2008 11:41 am ET Accountability, Self Responsibility, Truth Speaking, Integrity, Honor ... Ms. Clinton's character has non of these. Her actions and behavior in general is not one of a US Senator or US President. She actions are felonious, while not in prison, she is a criminal. PITIFULL |
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| cathy |
March 26th, 2008 11:41 am ET I would rather overlook simple human frailty as in a politician who doesn't always tell the whole truth – (besides who cares what it was like in Bosnia at the time-the truth is, if nothing else, Hillary has more experience in the Senate and in life) -than trust someone who could have attended a church for twenty years, where the ideas of Reverend Wright had to be blatantly obvious even when he wasn't sitting in the pew ,and who pretends he had no idea that those were Reverend Wright's views, -no idea, indeed! |
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| Tammy |
March 26th, 2008 11:41 am ET It's called integrity. If Hillary will make up stories about being shot at she will lie to the American people. This is one of many that she has told while running for the Democratic Nomination. Assume she was elected the American public will know what to expect from her. Lies. Hillary believes that she is above the standards of accurate information. This is enough of the typical traditional politics that has been going on. I am frankly tired of politicians thinking the American public is dumb. |
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| paulie_nj |
March 26th, 2008 11:41 am ET How many of you folks out there remember exactly how something happened 12 years ago? The fact remains that Hillary is well traveled, has met many foreign leaders and this does count, in my opinion, as experience. It's alot like gathering business cards at a party, you make contacts, you network and when you need something you know who/where to go to get it. I think we should sit both candidates in sound proof booths and give them each a set of the same questions containing "what if" scenarios covering the very topics that are important in this race such as national security, foreign policy, the economy, etc. Let them both answer and let's see who has the best response. |
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| Toni |
March 26th, 2008 11:42 am ET Carl Bernstein – Thank You for your candid commentary. I sincerely appreciate you writing this and I thank you for bringing these points to light – ""Her record as a public person is replete with “misstatements” and elisions and retracted and redacted and revoked assertions… "" The only thing I am amazed at is the lack of historical comprehension and retention on the part of the readers who disagree with you. Do they not remember the past, or are they simply cherry picking their memories as Hillary does...... |
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| jack |
March 26th, 2008 11:42 am ET Hillary embellished her story about her arrival in Bosnia. Barack Obama has blatantly lied about his sitting in church for 20 years and not noticing Reverend Wright's tirades of racism. |
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| Jim |
March 26th, 2008 11:42 am ET Finally. It's always hard to argue with facts. The woman is a creep. |
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| G.E. Coleman |
March 26th, 2008 11:42 am ET It's one thing for Senator Clinton to state that she has more foreign policy experience, and is more qualified to be the Commander-in-Chief than her Democratic rival Senator Obama, despite the fact that she has never had to make foreign policy decisions, nor make the tough calls that her husband had to deal with. I'm sure she feels that simply by being part of the White House during her husband's term, she has gained some valuable experience. I do have a problem, however, when she claims to have been under threat of sniper fire in Bosnia in 1996. That's not something over which you simply have a brain fart. First of all, the Dayton Peace Accords had already been signed several months before. Furthermore, being "sleep deprived" should cause you to be confused about such a high-adreneline rush as dodging snipers. It just doesn't wash. |
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| Jessica |
March 26th, 2008 11:42 am ET I am so tired of the Clintons. They exhaust me. I don't want lying and cheating to be real campaign issues, but they are. If she didn't lie about Bosnia, or NAFTA, etc., if she owned up to who she really was and then said what she wanted to do as president rather than trying to paint us a picture, we could trust her, and then we'd know what we were getting if she was elected. But we don't. I feel sorry for Hillary because I think she is constantly reconfiguring who she is in her minds eye, reshaping her past and her present personality to fit what she thinks the world wants to see, and always doing it in comparison to someone else. That has to be a very hard existance. But it is not an honest existance. Obama may have had the wrong pastor, his grandmother may have said the wrong things, but he doesn't lie about it. He doesn't distort who he is. He has enough respect for the country and himself to let us decide who we think he is. His personailty does not change. And we are allowed to make our own decisions based on his views of the issues and how important his imperfections are to us. |
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| Greg |
March 26th, 2008 11:42 am ET Cynthia's comment above brought to mind a conversation I had with my wife years ago about President Clinton's denial of any sexual liaison which subsequently was proven to be true. My wife said he lied merely about sex and that it was no big deal. My point was he lied to me and the rest of the American people (indeed he lied to the entire world.) I do not want my accountant to lie to me. I do not want my attorney to lie to me. I do not want my doctor to lie to me. Why in God's name would it be acceptable for my President to lie to me? Trust is something hard earned but easily lost. |
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| Emily |
March 26th, 2008 11:42 am ET Tammy, See- the connection doesn't hold- yours is far to far a jump to assume that any church going person is going to remember EVERY sermon they hear. And more importantly, if a particular sermon does NOT resonate with a person- they'd be more likely to forget it. And even farther, aside from all of the was he there, or wasn't he- HE didn't say the things that the Pastor did. I know my dad says things I disagree with and loathe to hear all the time, but does that mean that I will dissassociate myself with him? No- hardly. Adults, intelligent ones- that is, can agree to disagree and take wisdom from mentors where it applies to them and let go of that which does not fit. Hillary, on the other hand changed the story as it relates to foreign policy, and is now saying "I'm human". Give me a break. If we, as Americans, are supposed to have separation from church and state- why wouldn't her recollection of foreign exchanges be more important? |
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| Gillis |
March 26th, 2008 11:42 am ET What beats me is why knowing that she is such "a congenital liar" people believe her and vote for her. She would be worse than President Bush in lies and deceit. |
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| James, Pennsylvania |
March 26th, 2008 11:42 am ET And Obama's inability to tell the truth? When asked on CNN about his knowledge of Rev. Wright's sermons of racism and anti-American rants, Obama stated that he did not know about them until the Presidential election. Then in his "greatest speech ever given on race" (which didn't answer any questions about his belief in Rev. Wright and Farrakhan and his campaign's blasting Geraldine Ferraros comment), he stated that he did know about them but could not disown the reverand anymore than he could disown his "typical white person" grandmother. He also lied earlier in the campaign when he said he didn't know Rezko that well, but when the Rev. Wright story broke he gave an interview with the "hometown paper" he stated that they had frequent breakfasts and lunches and talked on a daily basis. He also lied about withdrawing troops from Iraq and NAFTA when his own advisors revealed his true intentions with both of those isues. OBAMA is a liar and a radical racist dressed in an used carsalesman's clothing and we can not afford to believe in the change he offers! |
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| Russ |
March 26th, 2008 11:42 am ET Anderson, come on what next will Hillary be crucified for, forgetting to brush her teeth? Ten years ago an incident happened. SHE WAS IN BOSNIA. Where has Obama been other than on vacation in the Virgin Islands? How can you and most of the media play up such an insignificant mistake? Is it because you all have a constant battle to see who can bash her before another does? |
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| Rose |
March 26th, 2008 11:42 am ET She has been around Bill for too long and to lie is part of their life. If not, ask them what the meaning of "is" is. |
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| Rough Air |
March 26th, 2008 11:42 am ET An interesting side note to the whole Hillary Bosian Adventure story is the spin the Clinton Campaign has supplied, and a gullible media appears anxious to believe. She has been telling similar versions of the same story since January. It seems that with each re-telling the story becomes more vivid and dramatic, but she has been "mis-speaking" about this event for at least 3 months. Her most recent version was certainly the mist specific and dramatic, but this was most certainly not a one-time event. |
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| Manny |
March 26th, 2008 11:42 am ET Allxdreamer, you are delusional if you think that NO ONE has any thing on Hilllary that they can use.......I believe it is the other way around, they are milking this Wright thing becuase Obama's book of scandals is thin compared to her enecyclopedia of lies and scandal.......You just wait until August rolls around or whenever Peter Paul v. Clinton is scheduled to begin.....I just hope that this time Hillary is thrown in jail for perjury and not slapped on the wrist like Bill was Marian Jones lies under oath about steroids and she gets locked up for 6 months, Bill and Hill lie under oath several times about several scandals and they are still allowed to occupy public office position.....Why? |
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| The Count |
March 26th, 2008 11:42 am ET Hey! Hillary was in the line of fire, Bill "never had sex with that woman" and Al invented the internet! Any more questions? |
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| Caribel |
March 26th, 2008 11:42 am ET Excuse me, I should have left out the word "bipartisan" from my comments. There is nothing bipartisan about Obama's style of doing things – he represents the blacks and no one else! |
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| GS |
March 26th, 2008 11:42 am ET Name one politician who has not embellished anything. Everyone wants to take credit for the whole thing even if they contributed only little. Grow up guys, this is a race for the top most job in the world. Obama is in limelight only for the last 2 years with hardly any accomplishment. He has less positives at the same time less negative. Clinton on the other has been in limelight for atleast 20 years. She has lot of positives and at the same time negatives. Press only likes to talk about negative as they get good viewership. Hillary is not a typical first lady that Obama camp is trying to portray. This is evident from this Bosnia video, she went to a war zone and acted presidential. Hillary had to embellish her speach so that people give credit to her and not think her first lady experience as not just a tea party one. Give credit for that. Not many first ladies have that kind of experience. |
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| j67ff84 |
March 26th, 2008 11:43 am ET Once again we see the true colors of the Clintons. |
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| turner (tacoma, wa) |
March 26th, 2008 11:43 am ET how long wil clinton lied to the american people? they lied when bill clinton had an affair with monica, they lied about the whitewater, they lied about her firing some head administration when bill was president but he didn't call it (IT WAS HILLARY) |
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| Jim |
March 26th, 2008 11:43 am ET Misspeaking, embellishing, misstating . . . The appropriate word is lying. Do we want another president lying to us for four to eight more years? |
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| Andrea |
March 26th, 2008 11:43 am ET Please– these weak, desperate attacks on Hillary are nothing but dogmatic media spin. I guess it's hard to find an argument against Hillary that is more substantial than (mis)interpreted political rhetoric? |
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| dr28 |
March 26th, 2008 11:43 am ET All I know if I was really under enemy fire I would have a VERY GOOD recollection of that. |
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| cthusker |
March 26th, 2008 11:43 am ET What don't people get about Hillary lying again? It was a FLAT OUT LIE! There is no wiggle room because she did it 3 times on this single issue. Why would I want to vote for someone stupid enough to tell a bold face lie, get caught and then claim she misspoke? She LIED.. not misspoke! This women given a clear choice between telling the truth or lying.. will lie every time. Her entire career has been composed of half truths and outright lies! Does any rational person buy the story of the Whitewater records simply appearing in the White House? One of the most highly secure buildings in the world, but they just appeared. If people want to buy into her brand of politics be my guest. I wouldn't vote for her if she was the only one on the ballot. Gosh I guess that already happened in Michigan didn't it? This women is a congenital liar as proved over and over again. People want to make excuses for having a complete liar as president go for it. BTW.. I feel exactly the same way about the lies that GW has been pumping out. How about a little honesty in government? Nah.. the dopes would rather excuse all the lies. Keep those people exactly the same way they grow mushrooms.. In the dark covered with horse manure!... |
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| Thom Yorke |
March 26th, 2008 11:43 am ET Oh Carl, I think you get a little to excited at the end of this article trying to reject Senator Clinton. It seems you have trouble making a choice in your own mind about the Senator. I read your book–it was quite an achivement of being the pretentious person you like to be. These are not the Watergate Years any longer my friend–your days of trying to cast people for your own personal gain are gone. One moment you stick up for the Senator as she is your personal rag doll, the next you burn her at the stake. Pick one. |
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| Brian Brady |
March 26th, 2008 11:43 am ET The devil is a liar and the truth will set you free. Its amazing to see how Hillary surrogates are actually defending lying. And lets be honest, that's what it was – a lie. Clinton jumped all over Obama when he used some phrases from a Duvall Patrick speech, claiming if "your'e running a campaign of words (her evaluation of the Obama campaign) then they should at least be your words." Well, Duvall Patrick is a friend and part of Obama's campaign and suggested he use those words. Clinton has only herself to blame for this Bonsnia business. I say if you are running a campaign based on your experience they should be experiences that actually happened. She did not play a major role in the Northern Ireland peace process, she did not start S-chip, she did not take sniper fire. If I exaggerate my qualifications on a resume I will be excluded from a job. So should she. |
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| Audacity of Hype |
March 26th, 2008 11:43 am ET I can watch family films of myself 10 years ago and not remember things that happened correctly. As for the Bosnian thing the other people on the plane said there was gunfire the plane took on and everyone was told to put on bullet gear and prepare to run out of the plane as the ceremony will not take place as planned. However at the landing they were given the all clear. So who does remember their past exactly right. My family and I argue all the time about how things happened in our past. Hillary is a very private person and smart. She is not going to give anything away she does not have to. This is exactly what you need as a president. Obama openly talks about bombing Pakistan, that is literally going to get Pakistan to declare war on us upon Obama becoming president. You cant talk about everything and you sometimes have to cover up a little in order to keep worse things from happening. Anyone that is married knows you have to stretch things sometimes to get by in marriage. It is not a matter of trust but sometimes your spouse just needs to hear something positive when times are bad. Hillary's heart has been always in the right place. She is the right candidate. She is not a motivational speaker with empty hyped promises but a real person with faults and the willingness to make good. Vote for the right person that can get this job done, Hillary 08. |
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| Michael, Farmington, NH |
March 26th, 2008 11:43 am ET Cindy wrote, "What does it matter that she embellished her trip to Bosnia? It isn’t hurting anything! All of them embellish on a lot of things! Why are you all picking on her!? I bet if you searched through Obama’s trash you’d find stuff he lied about! Give it a rest and get back to the real issues PLEASE!! Trustworthiness doesn't matter Cindy? Our ability to have confidence and faith in our leaders doesn't matter? Of course it does. If you can find a consistent precedent of instances of blatant dishonesty in Obama's record please do. The fact is that the Clintons are liars. Let me say that again: they are liars. There is a consistent precedent of their use of dishonesty as a tool for nothing more than political expediency. Their many closets are filled with the skeletons of Vince Foster, Ruby Ridge, Waco (a debacle that some sources say Hillary gave the final word on), Whitewater, sex scandals, blatant lies, etc. Hillary's "experience" is not much more than a legacy of cheerleading and failures. There's no parallel in Obama's record for the failures and exaggerations and obvious dishonesty that can be found in Hillary's record. |
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| doc |
March 26th, 2008 11:43 am ET I think Sen. Clinton is our only hope, obama is out. There is no way he can withstand the Republican attack machine, however Hillary is one tough Lady that will take Mccain apart. Obama will just whine about Mccain not being fair. This is contact sports. |
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| KT of Pa. |
March 26th, 2008 11:43 am ET Hillary's campaign seems to be missing her biography. There are so many small stories to tell that add up to a remarkable woman who has devoted her life to the causes of the public well-being. The public needs to see this side of Hillary. Otherwise, we all lose. |
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| Brian Brady |
March 26th, 2008 11:43 am ET The devil is a liar and the truth will set you free. Its amazing to see how Hillary surrogates are actually defending lying. And lets be honest, that's what it was – a lie. Clinton jumped all over Obama when he used some phrases from a Duvall Patrick speech, claiming if "your'e running a campaign of words (her evaluation of the Obama campaign) then they should at least be your words." Well, Duvall Patrick is a friend and part of Obama's campaign and suggested he use those words. Clinton has only herself to blame for this Bonsnia business. I say if you are running a campaign based on your experiences they should be experiences that actually happened. She did not play a major role in the Northern Ireland peace process, she did not start S-chip, she did not take sniper fire. If I exaggerate my qualifications on a resume I will be excluded from a job. So should she. |
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| Jeff |
March 26th, 2008 11:43 am ET Interesting analysis. The iconic thing is that her dissembling helped put Newt in the Speaker's seat and now will help McCain win the White House. It is one thing to shoot yourself in the foot; it is another matter entirely to take deadly aim and fire. |
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| Rafael |
March 26th, 2008 11:43 am ET No one is saying she needs to be perfect. Perfection and candor are not synonymous. One can be a candid, genuine person and make mistakes (even big mistakes). The whole point of this article is that Hillary has a pattern of saying things that aren't completely true and then finding a way to rationalize it later. So far all the people who commented on this article that are so appalled that Hillary is being attacked for not being perfect, get over yourselves and your biases. |
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| Joel |
March 26th, 2008 11:44 am ET Cynthia I think you are missing the point. This IS an issue. She was using this story as an example of her foreign policy experience. The example she gave is not true. If she is willing to lie about her qualifications in this one area, then in what other aspects of her experience and qualifications for the office is she willing to deceive us? Think about it like this, if you were hiring someone and found a lie on their resume, would you say "oh no big deal" or would you wonder what else they had lied about and question their overall integrity and suitability for the job? |
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| Dan B |
March 26th, 2008 11:44 am ET Hillary is scary..... Listen, she is not truthful, she will do anything to get elected and she is not effective. Read about her running of her own campain – the teams are disjointed, she is not in touch with the regional managers and frankly, if she can't manage the campain how will she manage the USA? ;-( |
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| Alan - Maine |
March 26th, 2008 11:44 am ET Hillary did not just miss-speak once, she did it repeatedly. The local news here showed her repeating the same sniper story on three different occasions. Either she is lying or she has an incompetent staff. What ever the case may be, this shows she is not fit for the Presidency |
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| Susan |
March 26th, 2008 11:44 am ET What a joke! Carl Bernstein has been trashing Hillary since his book came out on her but doesn't mind making money off of her with same collecting royalties and on book tours, etc. And for lying to the American people, no one can keep up with Barack Obama. If he had been honest about his church, pastor affiliation before he got into the campaign, NO ONE would have voted for him and he knows it. That is why he danced around it and only brought it up when caught through Video footage. Then lied and lied to the American people, changing his story the more he got caught. I see today he has even lied about being a "constitutional law professor". Truth is he is a lecturer (on leave) without tenure. Pretty big discrepancy. His lies can go on and on, but the American people seem to want to give him a pass, including Carl Bernstein. I do not see Carl bringing up any of Obama's "embellishment accomplishments", only Hillary's. Double standard always since this campaign started. |
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| Carl |
March 26th, 2008 11:44 am ET Again and again Hillary shows us that she will say and do anything to become president. |
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| Dy |
March 26th, 2008 11:44 am ET Hillary is still the BEST! NO ONE CARES about the Bosnia issue and EVERYONE will see this when she wins Pennsylvania and the rest of the upcoming primaries. People, wake up and realize that SHE WILL BE THE NOMINEE. Anyone who thinks otherwise is foolish and naive. If the superdelegates weren't going to vote for her, they would have already voted and Obama would be the nominee. But, that is NOT the case. SHE WILL WIN THE NOMINATION. Union endorsements, negatives, adds, and celebrity endorsements have ALL FAILED AGAINST HER! If not Hillary, then McCain! HILLARY 08' 12' |
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| Jay |
March 26th, 2008 11:44 am ET She is the most dangerous type of human being, arrogant, power hungry and stupid. Nobody with half a brain would make up a story like Bosnia with witnesses present. Unbelievable - Ann Curry, a extremely credible source was on that trip with Hillary, and can atest first hand that she's nothing more than a liar. We are not talking about truth exageration here, just out-right lies. See, "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" - runs in the family I guess. She feels entitled and damn the rest of us. Pathetic. |
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| Laura |
March 26th, 2008 11:44 am ET Hillier do not trust this woman;She's bringing shame to the democratic party! Obama,08 |
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| Jeff |
March 26th, 2008 11:44 am ET I truly hope there are Hillary Clinton supporters who read this. There seems to be an opinion throughout her supporters that she is the honest, matronly, "shame-one-you" (but not me!) candidate. I regularly see comments from Clinton supprorters calling Obama a "liar", which is strange because he appears to be the most open and honest presidential candidate I have witnessed in the past 3 decades. Even when it would appear to be to his detriment to be forthcoming (i.e. admitting drug use, where Bush and B. Clinton tried to hide theirs) Hopefully more people will realize this is one of the most devious, deceitful, lying politicians of the past century. All the waving shame-on-you fingers and 3AM threats cannot be allowed to overcome the Truth. |
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| Chris - PA |
March 26th, 2008 11:44 am ET How do you make a "misstatement" about sniper fire. Go Obama! |
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| Linda in L.A. |
March 26th, 2008 11:45 am ET "Nobody is perfect; everyone makes mistakes." But – What we are really talking about here is someone who is going to represent the highest office of the land not only to the people of this land, but to the world as well. From what I have seen and heard of and from Hillary for so many years, with and without Bill, there is no way I would vote this person into office. There is lying and concealing of facts and things that she has done, which have not made the full light of day yet. She seems to have a meanness about her and a bitter, revengeful streak that is relentless, which is why she takes offense at everything. She is rude and crude at times, and seems to be very power hungry. Being President is not about power, but about service to the people: it is about having a humble, willing spirit and the wisdom of the ages. If you don't have these qualities, all the knowledge and understanding in the world can not and will not be apropriately used and applied to situations as they come up and therefore will be of no help to the people. Of the three candidates, she is by far the least capable of representing this country when viewed from the perspective of humbleness, willingness and wisdom. |
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| Cindy |
March 26th, 2008 11:45 am ET Rhonda & Allyn, Hillary has not lied about any of the real issues that matter to us the American people! If so why aren't 360 and Anderson harping on that? They can't because she hasn't!! I'm not for her or Obama I just hate all of the focusing on stuff that in the long run doesn't matter and won't effect us at all! We need to get back to what matters and stop all of this nonsense of the back and forth bickering between the two Dems. It does nothing but hurts them both in the long run. It gives the Reps more ammo to use against them. Cynthia, Covington, Ga. |
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| Eddie |
March 26th, 2008 11:45 am ET Here is what bothers me most about the Bosnia issue: There was no need for the embellishments. In and of itself, it was a remarkable undertaking by a sitting first lady to visit a war zone. Instead of commenting that she remembers being told of the dangers during her trip, but the immense satisfaction of uplifting the spirits of the troops during a difficult time, she had to pervert it. Instead of noting the ceremony was briefer than planned due to some snipers, she had to change it to "running for cover". |
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| Tim, Cincinnati, OH |
March 26th, 2008 11:45 am ET Hillary's lies, to parapharse Rev. Wright, have come home to roost. And Bill's indicretions are coming home to roost for Miss Chelsea. |
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| ng |
March 26th, 2008 11:45 am ET To Cindy who wrote "What does it matter that she embellished her trip to Bosnia? It isn’t hurting anything! "... It's a matter of character. If one has a habit of mischaracterizing basic facts as often as what Carl's piece suggests, then you can not trust the person to be honest about their policies. One thing that we should have learnt from Bush's presidency is that while leadership, vision, experience are all important values for a president, honesty and integrity are most important. Putting a leader and visionary but a dishonest person in a position of power could cause enormous harm. Bush administration was dishonest about the reasons to go to war with Iraq and the implications have been devastating not only for US but for the whole world. |
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| nonecares |
March 26th, 2008 11:45 am ET hes ill not have been my pastor thats cool ! here my question is why bill clinton invite him in white house and pray 4 him about monica lswck ? ofcourse obama pastor he a big and crazy mistake i am afic-americas i deeply reject hes comment ! but u have think hes americans like me and you hes part of you and me so lets forget about the past ! we love this country much we can even american do not love us back ! i am 21 years old black americans so please let b smart this our country unite state of american ! so of you guy talking about obama hes this and that ! hes fighting for us the young generation hes our gift ! you can hate him how much you can but hes honest than the 1 you love ! |
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| Keri |
March 26th, 2008 11:45 am ET Folks, this is Carl Bernstein, a man who proved during Watergate that he could sort out the facts from fiction. That alone should tell you the consequences if the country decides Hillary is the president they want in office. We've had 8 solid years of lying in office; let's not venture down that path again, please. |
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| Lyle |
March 26th, 2008 11:45 am ET Hillary gets high on power. You can see it in her eyes every time she speaks. She was also obviously neglected by her husband and might find comfort and solace in the spotlight. But she's also ruthless in her quest for power, like many other politicians. I'm not thrilled with any of the candidates (and McCain is insane for thinking we can win in Iraq) and once again the presidential election will come down to the lesser of two evils. |
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| AJ |
March 26th, 2008 11:45 am ET It's funny that you pick on Hillary for maybe one thing she has lied about, but you don't say anything about the Bush Administration. They have told one lie after another and you just accept it. Funny how the Republican, Conservative media itself distorts things... Why don't you say anything about that??? We can't trust you, the media, or any of the polititins that supposably "lead" this country... |
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| Eric |
March 26th, 2008 11:45 am ET To an earlier poster- The "real issues" make up very little of the president's job and given how little the planks in the platform of the leading Democrats differ this really boils down to a question of character and competence. Since I prefer the "most powerful person in the world" to be well-connected with reality, I would prefer a president that doesn't lie to me. I am unlikely to get that, so I'll lean toward the candidate that lies less. |
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| Sharon |
March 26th, 2008 11:46 am ET Hillary flat out LIED! Now she's trying to play on our iIntelligents by trying to shift the heat to Obama! As far as I'm concern she cannot be trusted. Sharon |
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| Rob |
March 26th, 2008 11:46 am ET A LIE IS ONLY A LIE UNTIL YOU ARE CAUGHT Bill Clinton said he "did not have sexual relations with that woman, Monica Lewinsky." He simply misspoke. George Bush said there were WMD's in Iraq. He simply misspoke. Then he said "mission accomplished." Again, just misspoke. No biggie. Richard Nixon said, "I have never profited, never profited from public service. I have earned every cent. And in all of my years of public life, I have never obstructed justice. And I think, too, that I can say that in my years of public life, that I welcome this kind of examination because people have got to know whether or not their President's a crook. Well, I'm not a crook. I've earned everything I've got." He simply misspoke. George HW Bush said, "Read my lips: no new taxes." He simply misspoke. My own brother said, "No I did NOT break your Millenium Falcon model." But he, of course, simply misspoke. The pattern I see in all of this is that a LIE is only a LIE until you are caught. Then it becomes a MISTATEMENT. UPDATE: Actually, I don't have a brother. I simply misspoke. |
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| shauna |
March 26th, 2008 11:46 am ET HILLARY CLINTON = ready to LIE from DAY ONE!!!!! (cue to the predictable cheers from Clinton robotic supporters) |
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| Kris |
March 26th, 2008 11:46 am ET Hillary lied. Embellish, exaggerate, misspoke...these are just pretty words that help make the lie palatable. But a lie is a lie. As for the person who said that this does not matter, I would agree if Hillary were speaking to her grandchildren and telling a bedtime story. Don't think that matters? Try doing something similar on your next job application and see what happens when your prospective employer finds out about your blatant deception. Odds are very high that you won't get the job. |
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| KMKY |
March 26th, 2008 11:46 am ET With all due respect to Mr. Bernstein, I do not see how this most recent incident, which apparently was atypical to her characterization of the event in her other book _Living History_ and in the assessment of the then-acting president of the region, could constitute as a "watershed" moment in a discussion of the candidate's honesty. Americans have been fed on the most vile, neocon diet of hatred by Rush Limbaugh and his ilk that few remember the positives of the Clinton administration. It seems we all suffer from the kind of misremembering Karl Rove excels at pushing on us. I also do not see how this can receive so much attention against the bold-faced lie told by Obama in the Myrtle Beach debate that he only worked on a Tony Rezko file for five hours as an associate in a law firm. Then, he later admitted to having a 17-year relationship with the man, owning a lot next door to him, and admitting that both Rezko and his wife served on his campaign finance committee. |
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| Nancy Madison |
March 26th, 2008 11:46 am ET I AGREE. How is it that so many intelligent people just gloss over this fact? She is as 'slick' as her husband. Her dishonesty, or half-truths, are exactly what turns me off about her. Does it occur to her that those of us who will not vote for her now will not vote for her regardless of who's running? That includes 2012! |
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| Mary |
March 26th, 2008 11:49 am ET Obama was never a Muslim, his pastor has not preached hatred for 20 years, the Chicago Tribune (not a left wing paper) ran an editorial two weeks ago saying that they spent 90 minutes with him recently, and he answered every question, and explained in detail his relationship with Rezko, and they were satisfied all questions were answered. Hillary Clinton, who I supported for years, along with her husband, is a Liar. One would not have a fuzzy recollection if one were being shot at, and especially one would remember if one had put their only child, a teenager at the time, in mortal danger. |
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| Lorraine |
March 26th, 2008 11:49 am ET Appalling that people who are old enough to vote do not see the problem with Hillary totally fabricating her experience. This is the "experience" that she put forth as her reason that she is qualified to be Commander -In-Chief. She did nothing in the WH other than act as First Lady..except with her hezlthcare initiative, and that failed miserably. IT DID NOT AND DOES NOT EXIST. She stated Obama only has a speech. She has now been proven to have even less. How does that not matter????? How did we come to a point in this country that people think that deception and fraud no longer matter? Is this the legacy left by George Bush? Or..is it that people who act the same who feel the truth has no place if it will hold you back from getting what you want defned her indefnesible actions her because she justifies their own actions? |
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| nagi |
March 26th, 2008 11:49 am ET please guys look at it this way. This woman has a narrow mind because she obviosly lied about her trip to bosnia. how come you do something like this in the greatest country in the world with all its media. that is mean she is stupid, i'm sorry but this is the truth. how come you lie to the whole country with its media, FBI,CIA ect., about something like this |
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| Anita |
March 26th, 2008 11:49 am ET I am a Canadian watching and reading this stuff with interest but also with fear. America was and should still be a great country – an awesome country – but it has practically been flushed down the toilet over the past seven years. American media today is incredibly irresponsible. Rather than allowing these candidates to focus on the real and important issues like the economy and the illegal war, you are bashing them with senseless and personal attacks; backing them into corners where, yes, they make mistakes (God forbid they be human); and forcing them to turn on each other in the same way, then gleefully reporting on it. You should be ashamed. And, frankly, while most Americans may not deserve what they will get if another Republican gets elected this year, you, the cannibalistic media sure deserve something for your role in facilitating it. |
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| Frances |
March 26th, 2008 11:49 am ET It has always deeply troubled me that both Clintons have so vilified Barach Obama, a man who so exemplifies the kind of "new world" they apparently pretended to advocate in their earlier campaigns and public statements about affirmative action and better opportunities for people of color. One would think that, if a Clinton were not in this race, both of them would be hard on the campaign trail in strong support of Barack Obama. To see their clear disdain for someone who has actually achieved what the Clintons purportedly fought to bring about all those years in politics seems to indicate that all their previous public statements about racial equality were phony, disengenuous and calculated to win the support of blacks and other minorities. This campaign has truly brought out the inherent vicious ambitions of both Clintons – hers, where she has always envied Bill's presidency; and his, where he seeks to extend his presidency, albeit through his wife's campaign. All those Clinton supporters should really think about why they would want people of such false values as their candidate. This is disgraceful, dishonorable, and damaging, not just to the Democrat Party but also to all Americans who stand for true patriotism and justice for all. |
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| Kim |
March 26th, 2008 11:50 am ET Thank you, Carl. Thank you. When I thought of Hillary Clinton and a word to describe her, "Calculating" used to come immediately to mind. Now, "Liar" will be added to the list...as well as "ill" It frightens me thinking that she might somehow become an American President. The damage she is doing to politics is immeasurable. Anything to win. Like a yapping neighbor's dog, it is time for the country to simply turn a deaf ear to her and go on with the business of building a great America despite her. Our country's future cannot be built on lies and mistrust and dirty tricks. Our future stands bright and shining before us. Let this poor, sick woman stand aside to go get the help she so desperately needs. |
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| chris 4 |
March 26th, 2008 11:50 am ET Ahh, refreshing to see media flacks return to their comfortable attitudes of a month ago: Free Ride for Barack, let's pick on Mean Ol' Hillary. Somehow I think we won't see a parallel item about Sen. Obama's candor, which has now failed embarrassingly on several public occasions –involving Big Questions, not just nitpicking. Media flacks know they can safely postpone such attacks until after he has the Dem nomination. Then, we can confidently expect, Free Ride will change to with Tossed Overboard. In the meantime, the game is still Let's Show Hillary How Powerful the Media Are. |
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| Brian Graves |
March 26th, 2008 11:51 am ET Everyone is trying to make Hillary look bad because it is the American thing to do...make fun of someone. I want a leader with experience, not someone who is popular on Youtube. Is Youtube going to defend us the next time we get attacked? Where will Obama girl be when he is president? Will she be supporting him when he doesn't know what the hell he is doing? |
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| Mike Cobb |
March 26th, 2008 11:51 am ET To all of those who say they will vote for McCain if Hillary doesn't get the nomination, I would suggest that you remember that the election isn't about personalities ... it is about public policy. And, McCain's policy objectives are largely those of Bush. The War is one example. Tax breaks for the wealthy are another. Eliminating reproductive choice is a third. Supreme Court appointments are a fourth (and related to the third). There are many, many more right wing positions which he advocates. I support Obama, in part because I what I have seen from Hillary has given substance to the previously not well defined feeling that I didn't like her ... now I know why. However, that said, if her tactics, which could have the result of giving the election to McCain, do gain her the nomination, I will (as is so many previous elections) hold my nose and vote for her. Because, in the end, it is all about policy. |
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| Ann |
March 26th, 2008 11:52 am ET It is interesting to read the various perceptions of Senator Clinton and Senator Obama. I would emphasize the word perception. We each see the candidate through our personal view of the world. We are all flawed. We all have our quirks. If we all viewed the world through the eyes of perfection, it would be such a dull world indeed. I have no idea how to sort it all out. I do enjoy reading the differing points of view allowing me to see the candidates through the eyes of someone else. Your view of Mrs. Clinton is better informed than mine, but it is consistent with my emerging view. |
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| Florio Giolli |
March 26th, 2008 11:52 am ET Let's face it, who can actually read this column and say to themselves, "I have never embellished a story about myself, to gain acceptance". Please, I have never seens such a ridiculous story get so much play. I hear that in fact she was told that there was sniper fire in the hills and to be careful. So she embellished her role, just to make for a friendlier story. But of course the liberal media who is trying to elect Obama in the worst way picks it up and runs with it. I even heard last night on a talk show someone comparing this slip up to 20 years of Obama being in that Churc with that Pastor. Please give her some slack. What about all the goos she's done, when can we talk about that, but that kind of talk does't get Bernstein on CNN. |
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| rav |
March 26th, 2008 11:52 am ET I dont understand how a person can make such a mistake. What else is she misspeaking about????? Did she have a an experience similar to that or was all nightmare she dreamt up? |
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| Karen |
March 26th, 2008 11:52 am ET What does it matter if she lied? What does it matter if there were actually no Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq? We're adults, we've been lied to before. And yes, it does matter. Isn't this a lot like lying on a resume? People get fired for that. I'm willing to cut her some slack, but I'd like to see her try being open and straight forward for a change. This the kind of stuff that made me get out of being politically active back in the 80s. I just couldn't stand the stink. Folks, I used to assure myself that no president could do too much damage because of our system of checks and balances. Bush has proven me wrong. Right now we need integrity even more than we need experience. Only two candidates seem to have that kind of integrity, and Hillary isn't one of them. I'm voting for Obama. |
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| Mike |
March 26th, 2008 11:52 am ET Hillary Lied. Enough said. |
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| Joe C |
March 26th, 2008 11:52 am ET This just reinforces my gut feeling that Billary has to be avoided at all costs. I've actually contributed twice to Obama, something that I've never done before in a presidential election. That's how important I feel it is to put the Clinton Cartel to sleep permanently. It's not surprising that they're already hinting at supporting McCain so she can have another shot in four years. With the Clintons it's never about what's best for the country, especially after eight years of Bush. It's always about what's best for them. |
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| arto7 |
March 26th, 2008 11:52 am ET I agree that this is flaky and we don't need more of that in the White House, however, I emphasize the "more of" because heaven knows the current occupant has a problem with the truth and the straight talk express went off course a long time ago. Where do we draw the line between normal political spin that strike normal people as dishonest and hurt the country dishonesty? Not pushing Obama but I heard him on a radio station in Milwaukee right before the WI primary. The DJ asked him if he almost cussed about something or other. He answered, "I never cuss. Wait, I am a politician, if I say I never do something someone will find a way to use that against me." Now I did it! I put that in quotes but I don't remember if that is exactly what he said. It was a brief call in to WLUM when I was on my way home from work around 5 if anyone wants to find out what he really said and correct me. Or, if I was a politician, call me a damn liar. |
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| Jeremy Whittaker |
March 26th, 2008 11:52 am ET Looks like both Clinton's have the same moral values, huh. Hillary lies about Bosnia, about 4 times by my calculation, and Bill lies about Monica. Take what little pride you have left Hillary, drop out of the race and address your failed marriage. Then we the people will have more respect for you. And tell Chelsea to stop running her mouth at colleges around the country. She's already acting like you, she thinks she is entitled to the presidency. |
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| LM |
March 26th, 2008 11:53 am ET Kris, A lie is a lie! So guess what, Hillary is a liar!!!! Had she mentioned Bosnia only once, I'd be ok with it. No, she has told that lie more than once. |
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| fwhite |
March 26th, 2008 11:54 am ET Hillary has always "stretched the truth" to put it mildly. Her and Bill are two of a kind for sure. I sure don't want to knowingly put a president in office who refuses to admit their faults, and lies without regret, that is except for the regret of getting caught in a lie. |
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| Pat F |
March 26th, 2008 11:54 am ET Good post, Jon P. Measured, sensible. I like John McCain because he consistently tells the truth, even when it's a political liability. Like telling Iowans that he is against ethanol subsidies, and telling Michiganians that some auto jobs are gone for good. Sometimes the truth is hard to hear, and even harder to tell. But it's what grown-ups do. Let's elect a grown-up for a change. |
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| Peter |
March 26th, 2008 11:54 am ET Hillary is a congenital liar. The Bosnia incident is not just a "mistaken memory" – it's part of a consistent pattern that goes back decades. I do not want a liar for President – we have had those, and it is very harmful for this country and the American people. |
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| CB |
March 26th, 2008 11:54 am ET If she couldn't remember the Bosnian trip. How is she going to |
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| Matt Whitman |
March 26th, 2008 11:54 am ET People like Cindy (who posted a few minutes ago), who think that this kind of discussion is irrelevant and not a "real issue" are putting their political rooting interest ahead of personal civic virtue. It is our obligation as voters to carefully scrutinize candidates so that we can choose the one who is best suited to become the most powerful person in the world. This choice effects all of us, our children, and everyone on the planet. When the stakes are that high, a candidate's previous conduct matters. |
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| GARY CRAFT |
March 26th, 2008 11:54 am ET If Hillary would just speak the truth she could keep focused on Sounds alot like someone very close to her. |
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| Matt |
March 26th, 2008 11:54 am ET why even consider electing somebody who obviously has a habit of contorting the truth to her own benefit? is that what we want, another Bush in office? come on people, let's get it together soon!! how can there still even be any debate about who the better candidate is? Obama '08 |
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| The 76th incarnaction of Hillary Clinton |
March 26th, 2008 11:55 am ET Funny. Hillary says Wright would not be her pastor, yet, her pastor is speaking in defense of Wright, and furthermore, he was a guest of the CLinton's in the white house in 1998. |
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| James |
March 26th, 2008 11:55 am ET I think Hillary’s “misstatement” of facts go along way to showing us her “true” character. I don’t mind a candidate that will do what it takes to win, but “misstatements” like this really hurt your credibility. If you were truly fired upon by snipers, you would definitely remember the event like it was yesterday and it would be engraved in your mind forever. I also don’t think you would be on TV smiling and pretty much laughing about the incident. In that aspect, I think she has slapped everyone in the face that has gone through such an event in a foreign country. I’m pretty sure you wouldn’t hear most of our service men and women go on TV laughing and smiling about how they came under hostile sniper fire in a foreign country that could have ended their life. Most wouldn’t want to talk about the incident or if they did, it would be with a big smile on their face. Geraldo Rivera might laugh and joke about it, but that’s another topic entirely. I just think Hillary is extremely fake and it’s hard to trust anything she says. I know most politicians embellish the truth and have skeletons in the closet, but trusting that they will stand by their words and do what they promise once in office is all we have to go on. If she will make a “misstatement” about something as insignificant as this, what else has she basically lied about? Whether it was true or not, telling me you were fired upon in a foreign country isn’t the way to prove to me that you have foreign policy experience. Our service men and women have gone through similar events (for real) and that doesn’t make them qualified in foreign policy. If Hillary wants people to take her seriously, she needs to stop making “misstatements” and stick to the truth. Most voters want someone they feel they can trust in office and could care less if you are more qualified in foreign policy decisions than another candidate. The truth is far more important to voters. |
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| Mckinzie Field |
March 26th, 2008 11:55 am ET Hilary..you are such a Liar Liar Liar that you even beat the reel life Jim Carrey |
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| Alexandra |
March 26th, 2008 11:55 am ET As a Republican, I'm hoping and praying that Hillary wins the nomination. Go Billary!! |
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| jack, Michigan |
March 26th, 2008 11:55 am ET Hillary Rodham Clinton's description of her precarious landing under sniper fire, suggests that it would be more accurate in the future to refer to her as Hillary Rambo Clinton. If you had really experienced an episode where both you and your only child were subjected to sniper fire, you would never forget it. You would remember it accurately and with clarity. Moreover, it is insulting to our fine military to suggest that they would have been stupid enough to put the first lady and her daughter in harm's way. Either she is lying or has early-onset Alzheimer's, neither quality being desirable in a President. You can run her sound-byte next to Bill insisting that he "did not have sexual relations with that women". They both lie. It's on video for everybody to see. |
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| Veronica |
March 26th, 2008 11:56 am ET I am a proud Hillary Clinton supporter and I admit that she either exaggerated her account of the March 1996 trip to Bosnia or she padded the file to look greater than she is. I will say that I do take may trips with my husband and he get his fact all mixed up. He gets confused with the walk we took in Ljubljana and the the walk we took in Split. He confused the Charles Bridge in Prague with the bridges in Dublin. He confuses the walled city in Toledo and Dubrovnik. This does not make him a liar. Hillary Clinton has traveled much more than us and I can see how she could get confused. |
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| Peddy |
March 26th, 2008 11:56 am ET Hillary's attitude of burn down the building, take no prisoners is not helping the democratic chances in November. She cannot be trusted with the truth. It is becoming apparent that is her modus operadi. Take Bosnia, Northern Ireland, NAFTA, Children Health Care 1993. By the way the same reverend she could not have as a pastor was their counsellor during Monica's debacle. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black! |
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| Don - Minneapolis, MN |
March 26th, 2008 11:56 am ET I find it really interesting that folks are either quick to condemn Clinton for her mistakes or equally quick to defend them as just misspeaking... The focus that issue that this episode should be viewed from is the 3AM ad and the constant claims of experience that have already allowed her and John McCain (but not Barack Obama according to Clinton) to have already "passed the Commander-in-chief test". Hillary has (apparently) misspoken about a lot of her "experience" 1) Peace in Ireland – exaggerated amount of participation and influence at best – at worst an outright misrepresentation 2) NAFTA – she was "always" opposed to it but the White House records (and past speeches) show that that was not necessarily the case. This is particularly damaging to Hillary in that she tarred Obama with saying one thing and meaning another on NAFTA, when actually Obama has been consistent in his messages about NAFTA. If you watch the Canadian media you will discover that the Clinton accusation against Obama was actually unfounded – but interestingly enough the Clinton campaign may have approached the Canadians for much the same purpose they accused the Obama campaign of. 3) Opening the borders with Macedonia for refugees on one of her trips. The borders were opened, but a day before she arrived. And multiple sources have revealed that she had no part in the negotiations. 4) Finally the dramatic Bosinia narrative ( a leader under fire) well now we know that wasn't true (and as to it just being a "mistake", CBS has pointed out, with the clips to back it up, that she has made this "mistake" or "misspoken" actually several times starting back in December of last year. That's consistent misrepresentation. Is it a big deal in and of itself? Maybe not maybe yes. But taken in CONTEXT with a string of other "mistakes" "Resume padding" and/or "exaggerations" all the sudden it calls into question both the quantity and quality of all this vast experience she claims, but also the having passed the commander-in-chief test. After 8 years of a lying and secretive administration we aren't looking for a new candidate that seems to have a problem with truth, accuracy and apparently ego. The media attention about the Bosnia story is justified in my opinion. |
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| robert |
March 26th, 2008 11:56 am ET I have supported Obama since day 1 and eventhough I believe that all this feuding may lead to John McCain in office, it has shown how far we have come as a nation to have a 70 yr old white male running, a white woman running, and a black man running. I have been a republican my whole life and still believe that is where I will stay eventhough I will be voting for Obama (hopefully) come November. The saddest part about this leaking is that I do believe it will destroy Hillary's chances. Because when you think of lying with the clinton's you are more like to think of Bill. Not Hillary. I think the best part of this election are our choices. Because I believe we win either way. I read early that someone stated "Did it effect foreign policy "no"" Did it effect the Bosnians"no"". But what they forget to state is, Will this effect the next primaries more than Obama's preacher, YES. When you think of the preacher it was something he said, not Obama. But Hillary lied to the American Public. I would have been happy to look at the difference b/w Hillary vs. McCain come November. But not now. We are currently dealing with a liar and I will not travel down this road again. |
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| AnnaCatherine |
March 26th, 2008 11:57 am ET I guess Carl's book isn't a big seller so he'll try anything. Strange how when McCain told us how safe the streets were when he visited Iraq it took two weeks to find fout that he was surrounded by Marines and military vehicles. Nodody called him a liar. It was turned into 'humor'. McCain's cute grin. And Obama doesn't get an opportunity to lie. Nobody's allowed to ask him direct questions. And enough about the pastor and the speech. |
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| TruthIsTheLight |
March 26th, 2008 11:57 am ET Hi AC!!! Love you and your insightful show, but I have a question for you... If Hillary and her supporters claim she "mis-spoke" (LIED) because she is tired, WHY SHOULD AMERICA TRUST HER TO ANSWER A 3:00 AM PHONE CALL? |
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| My |
March 26th, 2008 11:57 am ET We are ALL judged by the company we keep. It is one of the common lessons we are taught growing up. |
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| Lance |
March 26th, 2008 11:57 am ET Can't believe those stupid Hill's supporters who kept insist that "so what, she misspoke, doesn't hurt anything". Doesn't hurt anything? She made up story to convince voter to vote for her. In court, that is perjury. This is not a book-tour where she misspoke. She is running for president and lied about her record: North Ireland peace agreement, Bosnia, NAFTA, what else? |
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| Soldiergal |
March 26th, 2008 11:57 am ET Scott wrote: Shouldn't that be the point? If you're making the argument that your backstage involvement had a direct effect on foreign policy, and that the President would deliberately send you and his teenage daughter into places too dangerous for him to go in order to have those effects, then it stands to reason that a not merely inaccurate but simply fictitious recollection of an episode can and should be pointed out as a major flaw in your argument. Winning a nomination just can't be worth the polarizing damage being done to our party. Mrs. Clinton is setting John McCain up for a landslide victory in November, and all of you vehement anti-Obamas and anti-Clintons would do well to remember that your threats, and not the big bad media, are responsible. |
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| Smartest |
March 26th, 2008 11:57 am ET Hillary is the only person capable of fixing this mess we are in, here in the good ole USA. Go Hillary. The flaws are out there on all candidates. They all have them, flaws, after comparison, Hillary is still the best choice for President. |
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| Peter |
March 26th, 2008 11:57 am ET This is an important issue. Her entire campaign lately has been about her experience. She has been exposed to be a liar about many things on her resume. If her biggest claims are false, then what does that say about the other items? We've been faced with 2 terms of a president who has not been forthcoming or sought to outright deceived the american people. Hillary has proven she will do the same thing. |
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| CB |
March 26th, 2008 11:58 am ET Put here account of the Bosnian trip and the real trip in a 30 second |
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| Lilibeth |
March 26th, 2008 11:58 am ET I encourage everyone to do their own research on the candidates and make up their own mind as to who the best person is for the White House. It's OK to consider this story, but don't forget to look at the big picture. We'll all be doing a great service to our country by using our own head, and not letting the media do the thinking for us and deciding for us. Thank you. Lilibeth |
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| The Bruce |
March 26th, 2008 11:58 am ET What a shock, Hillary's a liar. McCain can restore integrity and competence to the White House. I believe Obama, for all his amazing political talent, is too unseasoned to consider turning the reigns of the free world over to in these troubled times. |
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| Florio Giolli |
March 26th, 2008 11:58 am ET As I read the posts above, I iterally can not believe the rancor. Someone said that we should stop letting the media run our elections, I totally agree but it's not just the media, it's our own desire to follow them over the edge. Read the comments above, if you have trouble believing me. |
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| Kathy |
March 26th, 2008 11:58 am ET Don't compare the issue of Rev. Wright with this Bosnia story. Bosnia happened many years ago and was a harmless embellishment. It means nothing. Rev. Wright is today. Obama cannot be elected. He has not pulled together the party. Lets get real. He will go no where. Hillary has been able to take the heat. |
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| JRan |
March 26th, 2008 11:58 am ET Hillary just like Bill are both liars. The will do anything to deceive the public to get what they want. The lying show what type of people they are. If you would lie about a small thing what would you not lie about. Hillary's chickens are coming to roost. |
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| Clinton is Hot Mess |
March 26th, 2008 11:58 am ET She lied and she's a LIAR! And she lied again to cover up the first lie. She was not sent into a war zone. The fighting had already end. She didn't misspeak, she lied about this in the different speeches over the past 2 months. It reminds so many votes of the Clinton years and it's why a large percentage of votes do not trust her. Also, it shows how tone deaf and desperate her campaign is. This story has bee floating around for weeks. She had plenty of time to revise her speech. Her attempt to shift the narrative may work with her supporters, but she's giving the story even more has legs because she continues not to come clean and tell the truth. She lied about not supporting NAFTA. – The truth can be inconvenient, but it is still the truth! |
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| Joseph Pessolano |
March 26th, 2008 11:58 am ET Why is it that even those who do not defend the latest "mis-speak" are still willing to accept that it was something short of a deliberate misrepresentation calculated to portray her more favorably to the electorate (e.g. she said it so often, maybe she really believed it–or it's a personality disorder born from her life with Bill–or "she sees what she wants to see")?? Are we so accustomed to politicians' disrespect for the truth that we no longer recognize a lie when we hear one? |
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| Sonal, Chicago |
March 26th, 2008 11:58 am ET CNN and Obama have nothing else on Hillary, so they are using these useless, pointless issues now... Sonal |
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| Frank |
March 26th, 2008 11:58 am ET Hillary is a liar, she will say anything to serve her purpose. In her world she is the only thing that is important. Give it up Hillary, we are all on to your mode of operation. |
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| Ed Davis |
March 26th, 2008 11:58 am ET Everything Bernstein says is true. And sadly, Clinton is still much more qualified and prepared to be president than Obambi. |
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| free bird |
March 26th, 2008 11:59 am ET Why is the media allowing her to get away with saying she misspoke when she clearly lied. No one is using that word. Her apology was arrogant, flippant and dismissive. Do we really want another administration that lies to us and responds by being arrogant, flippant and dismissive? She has clearly learned from Cheney/Rove. |
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| mattyfantastic |
March 26th, 2008 11:59 am ET Yeah I think it is really sad that anyone is even talking about this. It is a NON ISSUE! JESUS. |
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| Dave G |
March 26th, 2008 11:59 am ET Clinton supporters never cease to amaze me. Cindy, this matters because Hillary has made her foreign policy "experience" a major issue in this campaign. It is clear she has exaggerated any role she had in the Clinton White House. She wants us to believe she was working out peace accords when all she was doing was attending ceremonial dinners. The sniper comment may seem like a minor "error" on her part, but it is part of a consistent pattern of altering the truth. I don't want to hear about how the media loves Obama – they should be hammering her on this issue and she is getting a free pass. By the way, I have never a read a more perfect description of Hillary than "congenital liar". |
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| Disappointingly Accurate |
March 26th, 2008 12:00 pm ET Hillary has once again blatantly reminded us all of her ability to not only twist but totally distort the truth to her own advantage. She did not misspeak on Bosnia. She was not simply sleep deprived. It was not the first time in 12 years that she has 'misspoken.' She lied, plain and simple. The reality is simply that. As said in the piece I refer to, the one basic fact that we must require in those who want to be President is the TRUTH. Look at what we have suffered in George Bush's years because of an unwillingness to be truthful with the American people. Hillary Clinton is the one Presidential candidate who has still refused to apologize for her Disastrous vote for the Iraq War. She seems unable to really understand the need for transparency and accountability. In this era when video often can be found to validate or discount someone's account of an event, what was she thinking when she deliberately created a 'story' of what happened in Bosnia. It is embarrassing. Please, MSM, do not let this go underground. More than anything else that has surfaced in this long and intense campaign this deserves to be remembered. The American people need to remember that someone who will LIE to their own advantage is someone who we cannot trust to be our President. |
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| Tyler |
March 26th, 2008 12:00 pm ET It all comes down to being a good person and doing whats best for AMERICA, not HILLARY, which is what she has been doing all along. She needs to relize that just being president is not a legacy, being a good compasionate president that cares about the nation is a legacy |
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| Leann, MI |
March 26th, 2008 12:00 pm ET All three candidates have their short comings, since no one is perfect. I am very disappointed with the attacks that are made on all fronts. It is one thing to point out lies and inconsistencies, but to beat a head horse about the preacher is getting old. I agree that Dr. Wright is being viewed in the narrowest form, through a few sound bites. I found his preaching enlightening, because I didn’t take it personal. I am not black and don’t know how it feels to have security watch me when I shop. I don’t know how it feels to have people be afraid of me because of the color of my skin. To judge and compare any discrimination that I may had experience being a woman or whatever to what blacks face every day is arrogant and insulting. What has become the social norm within whites is NOT talking about repression. I completely agreed with Obama on his views during his speech in PA. I found it eloquent and truthful. Many people say that they wouldn’t sit in his church listening to Wright preach and how could Obama for 20 years. I ask the people that say that, “would sit in ANY African American church and listen to the sermons for 20 years?” Better yet, have you ever been to a sermon at any African American church? |
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| Ben |
March 26th, 2008 12:01 pm ET I've really had a hard time with the way Hillary has ran her campaign. She continues to skew the truth about herself and Obama, to the point of giving the media more stories that will hurt either of their chances againts McCain. Let's face it, McCain can grab the liberal vote just as easy as the Democrats can grab the conservative vote. I don't think Hillary should have dropped out from the race, just stop with the win at all cost attitude. She isn't being sincere, she is just doing whatever it takes just as Bush did. One thing when you look at Obama is that you never really end up questioning his responses as they are directly answered even if it's not the best for his campaign. Hillary will do or say anything to be president, then when the polls close will just make a new excuse that side steps what she says. Is it no wonder that she polls well on the under-educated working class. These are the people that need the most help and they just aren't getting the truth from Hillary. |
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| MMunky |
March 26th, 2008 12:01 pm ET What tips me off to her lying is when she mentions ducking and running, and she laughs. I don't think anyone would recall a time when they had bullets buzzing over their heads as they ran for their lives with humor. If I were in Iraq as a soldier and saw this clip, I'd be very angry. If I were the loved one of a slain soldier, I'd be furious. What Hillary did was disgusting and she should apologize not only for lying but for trivializing something that serious when young Americans are dealing with that very scenario daily over in Iraq. And some actually get hit. Four thousand to date. Where is the humor in that? |
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| Marty from NH |
March 26th, 2008 12:01 pm ET What is everybody so upset by? The Clinton's use memory as a multipurpose tool, when they need to their memory is embellished, when they need to their memory is poor, when they need to their memory is made up, when they need to their memory changes. How do you think they got so far? Memory for the Clinton’s is a matter of getting what they want and changes to accomplish just that! For a woman who could not remember anything during Whitewater, isn’t it wonderful how she so vividly remembers her Bosnian trip, "ducking sniper fire", oh wait! You have tape of that? Oh, I guess she must have misspoke!” “I did not have sex with that women!” “It depends on what is, is!” Wake up folks, this isn’t new, this is the way they operate! |
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| ERW |
March 26th, 2008 12:03 pm ET I DO CARE about this story, it IS relevant, as it shows that she is a liar. I am tired of the liar in office, I don't wish to replace him with another liar. So to the media, please continue covering any and all issues that relate to a candidates honesty! |
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| Heather |
March 26th, 2008 12:03 pm ET Hillary claimed that the sniper story was a missstaement and that she was tired. Why, then, was the same story given in December and February? She intented to deceive the American public about her experience. |
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| Craig |
March 26th, 2008 12:03 pm ET Mr. Bernstein, Thanks for reminding the American people about the Clinton's past. I havent forgotten what a shambles it was and to suggest any other scenario is truly looking through rose colored glasses. |
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| Joe |
March 26th, 2008 12:03 pm ET Cindy – All of this does matter. Hillary is not truthful. Trust is not given, trust is earned. Trust is gained via accurate and concise communication. Hillary is simply a power hungry woman who will do/say anything to achieve her goals. It wouldn't be too much of a stretch to call Hillary a megalomaniac. |
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| A Campbell |
March 26th, 2008 12:04 pm ET When it comes to a Presidential race everything is so critical. The way you speak, what you say, what you did while you were a teenager, etc..I find it comical. So what if Hillary remembered a trip to Bosnia incorrectly. Her life compared to many of ours has been hectic over the years. I would imagine some of her hundreds of trips out of the country would get mixed up. Come on. We are human & destined to make mistakes. This recent mistake on her's has been blown out of proportion. Analyzed to the max...Go figure...it seems like many Americans are not ready to have a women lead this country & will do whatever it takes to take her down. |
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| Penn Dem |
March 26th, 2008 12:04 pm ET So Clinton displayed a more vivid imagination than most people would give her credit for. I can live with that. Obama is telling me on national TV, that, NO, he was never present when his spirtual mentor attacked America, NO, he never heard any such statements, either in public or in private conversation. |
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| Marie |
March 26th, 2008 12:04 pm ET A real leader does indeed have strong core beliefs, sticks by them, and leads largely through example. And, a lie is a lie is a lie. A leader does not need to lie because of the sure knowledge that truth is the best road to take. Hillary is not a leader. |
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| jhartman |
March 26th, 2008 12:04 pm ET How could she still be married to Bill and not think it ok to lie? Anyway, embellishment, evasive denial of true events, and raw fabrication of untruthful events are three different things. She does all, but this was raw fabrication. Sorry Clintonites, this story reveals true character and is hard for the rest of us to swallow. |
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| Blake C |
March 26th, 2008 12:04 pm ET Response To : What does it matter that she embellished her trip to Bosnia? It isn’t hurting anything! All of them embellish on a lot of things! Why are you all picking on her!? I bet if you searched through Obama’s trash you’d find stuff he lied about! Give it a rest and get back to the real issues PLEASE!! Cindy I will tell you what her embellishing hurts. It hurts the patriots through out this country's history who have really faced a sniper's fire. It hurts the real heros like John McCain who has a real war story and who has really risked his life for this country. It hurts myself as a veteren who has put his life on the line for this country. Above all it hurts our kids because if we let this go we are teaching our them that little white lies are ok as long as you have something to gain from it. It is never ok to to lie about the risks that you have made for this country. Too many men and women better than Hillary Clinton have put their necks on the line for all of us, and she has no right to try and make people think that she has done the same. |
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| Joseph (from tampa Fl) |
March 26th, 2008 12:05 pm ET anyone can "missspoke" anytime, but to do it over three times is a plain lie. A trip to a foreigh country does not add up to having national Security experience. She's hiding her records b/c she know that once they come out people will see her for who she really is. If the media was doing its job; we would've known this months ago and the race would've been over by now. Any candidate who makes a claim should be investigate to see if it adds up to facts. |
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| Doug Smith |
March 26th, 2008 12:05 pm ET If I was a U. S. Military Vet who served and sacrificed in Bosnia, I would be livid!! 280 million U. S citizens, and this is our election pool. Are there not 3 decent people out there who can run for this job instead of these actors? |
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| Sandy |
March 26th, 2008 12:05 pm ET Hillary lied...she has lied before and will again. The DNC needs to step in and finish this before the Hillary and Obama destroy the party. The race isn't close – she has a very slim chance of winning. Who owes who favors that will be collected in smoke filled back rooms? Personally, I feel James Carville is shooting himself in the foot. He will be damaged goods after the election. He comes across as 'nuts'. All for the good of Hillary, though. Go James...Go James...the nuttier you sound, the nuttier your candidate comes across. Sandy |
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| Andrea |
March 26th, 2008 12:06 pm ET Thanks to Carl Bernstein. We need intellectuals to place this in the right context. I was shocked by Hillary Clinton's lies about her Bosnia experience. Her statements cannot be explained away by a simple mistake. |
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| DJW |
March 26th, 2008 12:06 pm ET It looks like once again the Democrats will snatch victory from the jaws of defeat ! The party bigwigs better put a stop to this infighting and soon if they want a chance to put a Democratic President into office. Hillary is going down and will drag the whole party along with her along with the senate and congress majorities. After some homework it has become clear to me that Paator Wright's short clips have been taken out of context. If one sees or listens to the entire sermon it is quite different. In the 911 clip he is actually quoting I believe that the Clinton's do not want to reveal their tax returns because they have been renting the caretakers house on their Chappaqua property to the Secret Service for $10,000 a month, same as their mortgage payment on their mansion. Sweet deal, eh? |
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| pk |
March 26th, 2008 12:06 pm ET When is this systematic demonizing of Hillary Clinton going to stop? She is strong because she continues to rally and gain support in spite of media tactics to bring her down. She does not have to answer questions about her marital relationship. Neither does Chelsea, and neither does her father for that matter. Just because people are public officials does not mean they have to reveal every intimate detail of their family life. And they do not have to answer extremely rude questions. It's a perfectly reasonable response to say you're not going to answer a question that you deem much too personal and none of the questioner's business. My hat's off to Chelsea. The media are desperate for something–anything–to report. They have to fill airtime and news holes. Most of the fill is pure junk. I'll end this by saying: May the best woman win in the battle for the White House in 2008. |
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| BW CINCINNATI |
March 26th, 2008 12:06 pm ET I am not going to defend Mrs Clinton's relationship with the truth. I wish she had not said anything about Bosnia I hate finger pointing. however the hateful rhetoric that Rev Wright spoke, would have permanently ruined a white politician if a white pastor had spoken like that. Trying to change that subject by making the Bosnia story into a bigger deal then it is just sounds childish, and doesn't really make a point. I don't think of myself as prejudice person, but until hate is not a part of any speech, racial problems will still exist. Excusing it in a man who worked with a presidential candidate's campaign; The candidate who is suppose to represent both races to the US, and the world is apologia. I graduated from a jesuit college. I was spoon fed the Catholic churchs justification for it's stand during WW2. This feels the same to me. Mrs Clinton has had nearly every aspect of her public life filmed for years. Either she genuinely mispoke, or she is stupid. No one thinks she is stupid. |
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| Trevor |
March 26th, 2008 12:06 pm ET Why is it that every time people with the facts behind question Hillary's character, a bunch of her supporters claim she is being picked on? She is clearly a pathological liar, if that is what you want in your next president, don't vote, because she CANNOT win the nomination. It seems to me, that any objective person could look at the lies she has rolled out, and the fact that she will do anything in hopes that Obama as our nominee will lose in Novemeber with her "kitchen sink" startegy would lose some faith in her. I have, I was sure I would vote for her, but now, I would vote for Obama, and then McCain in that order. She is ruining our party for a power grab, your ears are not tricking you, she lies constantly. NAFTA in Ohio, she was never happy about it right? All the Clinton Staff from the 90s claim she was an enthusiastic supporter of NAFTA until the Ohio primary in 2008, haven't you had enough of this type of leader people? If the roles were reversed everyone would tell Obama to get out of the race, face the facts. Despite the fact that she has zero chance of winning the media continues to say, "You can't say it's over with the Clintons". These are absurd efforts to keep their ratings up, and also because they know Billary will say anything to get elected. |
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| A |
March 26th, 2008 12:06 pm ET If this were Obama the Clintons would have a feast b/c it's their only way to get ahead. This is the difference between the two campaigns. One is about progress with substance. The other is about sketchy experience that's starting to crumble. Stay tuned for more Obama attacks!!! OBAMA 08 |
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| Ulysse in Canada |
March 26th, 2008 12:06 pm ET Clearly, the person who wrote needs to get its head checked. Maybe this person does not know how to read and simply types whats its sees on the posters from her campain. It looks like somebody who is probably in a sect or something because you need to have been brainwashed to write something like that under the current topic. It is not politically correct of me to say that so it might no get printed out but I think somebody has to say it. I am really getting tired to see comments like that from people who obviously do not even have half a brain. If americans elect Hillary Clinton then It will only show that your country has lost its way and I will have pity for all of you to be stuck with her. |
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| Stephen |
March 26th, 2008 12:06 pm ET why is it hillary supporters continually deny the relevance and importance to voters... the aspect of Hillary, and by association with her husband Bill Clinton... a potential president, who makes a wanton habit of lying when it fits her needs in the moment... but serves no greater purpose. Who lies, and avoids questions. Who tells half truths when she says anything, and has this thick cloud of dishonesty hanging around her. That's why people harp on the "sniper" issue. It's another example... of something so insignificant, that she chose to lie about, to score points... just to bolster a case that really didn't need the lie to bolster. But suited her immediate political needs. And therefor was done without hesitation. And then was followed up with half truth lame explanations to the fact on whether she lied in the first place when clearly she did. |
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| Tanya |
March 26th, 2008 12:06 pm ET To Cindy in Covington, I think it's pathetic that you are trying to convince others that Sen. Clinton's bold faced lie is not important. GWB's lie about WMDs is what has us up to our eyeballs in a war that we cannot win. But then again, I guess the issues you want addressed would include Sen. Obama's pastors words. I guess Obama is responsible for that just like all Catholics are responsible for the priests that like little boys??? |
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| semp |
March 26th, 2008 12:07 pm ET If you don battle dress because you may be shot at ... there is no way to mistake that event unless you're delusional, taking LSD, peyote, suffering from Alzheimers or some other such cause. Any of which should kick ya'll off the ol Commander in Chief list |
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| Charles |
March 26th, 2008 12:07 pm ET Lets call Hillary Clinton what she is: a liar. Obviously politics is partly an exercise in bending and crafting the truth and facts, but Hillary goes above and beyond the pale in her consistent false statements and exaggerations. Just a few weeks ago she told bold-face lies to the voters of Ohio of her consistent opposition of NAFTA. As it turns out, she was a cheerleader and champion of the legislation during her time as the First Lady. Not to mention she is committed to tearing down her opponent and the entire democratic party in her obsessive quest to win the nomination. As much as you may want to stick to the issues, trustworthiness and honesty are as important as any virtues a president should have. Need we remind ourselves what our current administration has become. You people need to wake up and smell the coffee. |
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| Vince Casella |
March 26th, 2008 12:07 pm ET Much ado about what Hillary said 10-12 years ago and not much ado at all about the lies that Obama has told and is still telling. He has a knack for lieing then lieing again to cover up his first lie. Can`t understand why or how the media lets him get away with that. Well you Obama followers may be concerned about what the Clintons did years ago but I`m more concerned about what is happening now. The lies that Obama tells now can be far more damaging than anything that the Clintons may have done 10-12 years ago... |
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| law |
March 26th, 2008 12:07 pm ET I have observed her for a long time. She is a contradictory person within herself. Probably that is why that she is conflicting when time needed for making a good judgment. |
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| Kevin |
March 26th, 2008 12:07 pm ET Everyone has some mistaken memories; I know I've "remembered" saying things that I later realized I meant to say but actually never did. But there's a difference when you "remember" being under sniper fire but weren't; the situation would be unusual enough to stand out among routine memories, and thus one shouldn't have a "phantom" memory of it if it didn't happen. I think it's a far cry from being "misspoken". I love her apology as well, saying she says "millions" of words a day. I did the math, and if she doesn't eat, sleep, or listen to anyone else (hmm), she'd have to talk a 12 words a second to reach a million in one day. Perhaps she "misspoke" again? |
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| Indiana Dem |
March 26th, 2008 12:07 pm ET Excellent commentary on perception versus reality. I'm starting to believe that lawyers are not the best representatives of either. Hillary's years of parsing words, using technical legalities that are not relevant or understandable to the general public and now wanting to present herself as something or someone believable and genuine is proving next to impossible. Barack Obama is a lawyer too, but he hasn't spent 35 years "in the business" and being remade because of the hazards of that approach. I perceive him to be more genuine, more believable, and more of what America is and should stsrive to be. During his campaign he has shown to be consistent, steady, unwavering and able to step up to face unprecedented scrutiny of his very core identity and successfully straddle a very delicate balance. Whether he succeeds in being the nominee or the next president, he has been and will be a critical figure in helping this country mature. Presidents come and go but their impact lives on. |
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| Duke K. |
March 26th, 2008 12:07 pm ET Everyone should have recognized the story as a lie from the start. Does anyone believe that the Secret Service would have let Hillary and Chelsea leave the plane, or even have let Air Force 1Foxtrot land, if there were any chance that they would have been shot? |
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| Michele Mateo Rusin |
March 26th, 2008 12:08 pm ET If anyone doubts the importance of Carl Bernstein's revelation of Hillary's 'congenital' deceptiveness, please remember that this is the same Carl Bernstein who outed Richard Nixon in Watergate, which led to his resignation rather than face impeachment. I hope his outing of HRC will have a similar effect – that is, to convince the superdelegates to get her to quit, and to convince the American public that she is nowhere near having presidential qualities. |
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| DP |
March 26th, 2008 12:09 pm ET Hilary Clinton is a liar. Period. |
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| John |
March 26th, 2008 12:09 pm ET Hilarious to watch Bernstein try desperately to argue that Hillary is anything other than a sniveling, lying, ambition-crazed politician that will do anything to get elected. Sorry, Carl, that your hero is such. |
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| TEO |
March 26th, 2008 12:09 pm ET Exactly why she wouldn't have been elected a Senator if it were only up to the people in upstate NY. The majority of us new what she was like but the city out voted us. |
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| Jillian in Chicago |
March 26th, 2008 12:09 pm ET Another embarassment from the Clintons. Hillary out of respect for the position of former First Lady should remove herself now from seeking the Democratic Party Nomination. She is behind in votes, delegates and number of states as many have noted. In the name of the Democratic Party she should get out now so we can concentrate on November. There are those that say we must give the last ten states their vote–mathmatically she will not win so why spend all this money on the primaries? Hillary and Bill along with John McCain are old fashioned politics. We need new ideas to move forward and we can't because the Clintons continue to drag us down into the gutter and embarras the United States around the world as former President and First Lady. They should step out of the limelight immediately and return to New York with whatever dignity they may still have. |
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| nihalsam, switzerland |
March 26th, 2008 12:09 pm ET Thank you for this much needed article. Not only did it refresh our minds about some important matters, it also kept away -probably only temporarily – more stories about "who is related to whom". I just can't wait for the greatest story of all: "Barack once dated Hillary". Great stuff from the self appointed "best news panel" |
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| kbone |
March 26th, 2008 12:09 pm ET It really doesn't matter how bad or good Wright is, anyway. The marker for hypocrisy is clear: If Obama doesn't get a pass on guilt by association, when Hillary has, and McCain has, that's on hypocrite territory. When he gets the same treatment as them, then we can say things have a modicum of fairness. Her comments are hypocritical because they can apply just as easily to her and Ferraro. Her attempt to dodge it by the caveat about "...choosing your pastor..." is nothing more than a weak attempt to avoid classification as a hypocrite, and ignores the fact that Wright was a father figure in Obama's life, in EXACT accordance of the claim she made about not being able to choose your family. Because Hillary has elected to sing in the same chorus as Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh, she is a fair target for accusations of demagaguery (spelling?). The "Enemy of My Enemy is My Freind" philosphy so alive in the Hillary camp is leading her down paths she never should have taken. Hillary believes patching things up with Black voters is a bridge she'll cross when she gets to it, appearantly, AFTER she kills their newest hero. A lot of Hillarites are deluding themselves on this too. I think, when she finally wanders over to the THAT yawning canyon in her political landscape, she'll find them on the other side, laughing at her. Hell, they just might build a bridge for McCain, given it will a choice between one demogague and another. AND, I just don't see the younger voters getting excited over a 60 something women with a sly tongue and a questionable sense of honesty. The feminists may gather around her, but even the feminists must realize that you can't just trade one form of bigotry for another and then sit smugly and try to rationalize away the whole thing. In November, she will pay the piper. As far as I am concerned, until the Democratic party purges itself of racial hypocracy, I might just join them in building a bridge for McCain! |
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| Deb |
March 26th, 2008 12:09 pm ET Hillary Clinton plays fast and loose with the truth. Hillary and Bill have a long history of distorting, dissembling, withholding and hiding relevant, verifiable facts and information. The truth matters, and we need to be able to trust our elected officials to tell the truth. It is not acceptable to assert that they're all liars. We have a choice; we can elect more liars, or we can elect people who tell the truth, even if the truth is difficult for us to hear. The real issue is: does the electorate want to hear the truth, or do we want someone who will continue to lie to us? |
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| Kristyn A. |
March 26th, 2008 12:10 pm ET HILLARY SUPPORTERS ARE BLIND! |
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| darnell |
March 26th, 2008 12:10 pm ET How many war zones has she been to that would have her confused about the circumstances of this trip to Bosnia? How is it that you can take her word at face value when you won't even show 5 minutes of Pastor Wright's comments that lead to the statement that is shown over and over again. |
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| Maria |
March 26th, 2008 12:10 pm ET There is no comparison to hateful , racist , hysterical screams of Obama's pastor, to Hillary's Bosnian episode. After all, Hillary was only second first lady after Elinor Roosevelt to go to a war zone. And it was a war zone, for God sake! Obama is in big trouble, and this is why it is such a big deal with Bosnia now. |
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| Dave |
March 26th, 2008 12:10 pm ET Hillary, Dillary, Doc. |
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| Robin Williams |
March 26th, 2008 12:11 pm ET Perhaps we should elect Hillary just because it will be so easy to impeach her for perjury – because she can't go a day without vomiting forth a porcelain bowl full of lies. |
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| avi |
March 26th, 2008 12:11 pm ET The only one who was under fire, real one, is JohnMcCain. |
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| DRE |
March 26th, 2008 12:11 pm ET Obama is not gettings a pass from the media. They have been killing him, even Hillary been throwing the stuff at him. She was caught not telling the truth, how many other times have she not told the truth? |
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| Martin M |
March 26th, 2008 12:11 pm ET Very serious accusations. But they need balance. What would be useful to us voters is a comparative study of truthfulness of the candidates. They all seem to lie. What we need to know is who lies the least. A good question to ask is what is it about American culture that promotes liars to the leadership roles. |
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| David in IA |
March 26th, 2008 12:11 pm ET I am sad that this primary continues to drag on, and am convinced that the lack of any primaries for the next several weeks are going to cause supporters on both sides to further entrench themselves, in such a way that will make either candidate's election difficult in the general. Keeping this party alive into August is the worst thing that can possibly happen to Democrats, because people like Tyler from NJ will decide that if their democrat doesn't get the nomination, they're going to vote Republican out of spite. I myself have decided that I can only vote for one of the two remaining candidates in the general, though I will certainly still vote democrat downticket. At the time of the Iowa caucuses, I could easily have voted for any of the many candidates (and in fact I caucused for Edwards), but now the divisiveness is wearing my patience thin. I think both candidates need to start acting like adults. It's been awhile since we've seen any discourse-elevation from either side, and without it, what you see in the above comments will reign and people will become more polarized. |
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| Murli Advani |
March 26th, 2008 12:11 pm ET Hillary has a skimpy resume, so she exaggerates and lies to make her resume look good. |
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| Jane |
March 26th, 2008 12:11 pm ET Carl Berstein is just trying to peddle his book for monetary gains. She is not unlike many of her male politicians but always comes under heavy scrutiny and often times lambasted more than her male self-righteous contemporaries, simply because she is a woman. These men simply cannot come to terms with the fact that a woman can run for the highest office in the land. And an intelligent woman like Hillary Clinton. |
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| Tania |
March 26th, 2008 12:11 pm ET Hillary seems to have some significant self-esteem issues. If she were so strong (to be President of the United States of America) she would not have accepted Bill's humiliation. She may be fit to run for "Most Resilient Wife" of the USA, but not for President of the USA. She seems too self-relient on Bill. |
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| Mike |
March 26th, 2008 12:11 pm ET CINDY: |
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| Scott in Boston |
March 26th, 2008 12:11 pm ET I'd bet 99% of those who call Hillary a liar because of her Bosnia blunder, have lied. You folks need to look in the mirror! Truman, Kennedy, and Carter, [to name a few] all lied once or twice [ok 100x] so she's in good company. Is it right to lie? No. Same goes for Obama... Is it right that he's judged by what his pastor says...? No. What's most important is what a candidates track record proves. In Hillary's case we know we will have a champion for universal health care, better education policy, determination to end the war with Iraq, and a person who knows how to operate on the world stage. Finally, they say Hillary will do anything to win. Good. That's what winners do...! |
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| Jill S |
March 26th, 2008 12:11 pm ET Ok let's see now.......... Obama first denies that he was ever in church when his pastor preached sermons against white people but later has to admit that he was in attendance at some of these types of sermons in the 20 years that he has attended Pastor Wright's church. Hillary flies into Bosnia during war time when snipers were in fact known to shoot at planes but exaggerates that she had to keep her head down when getting off the tarmac on her flight into Bosnia. Obviously Hillary is the biggest liar? |
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| Tom D. |
March 26th, 2008 12:12 pm ET Hillary said during an interview on the Bosnian episode that she is tiered and that she made a mistake. She said that this just shows that she isn’t perfect; she is a real human being. This wasn’t a factoid buried in some speech she was reading from a teleprompter. This is an event she was depicting with passion – one that she said she remembered vividly. Also, this was the third time she told this version of it. This was not a tired slipup of a road weary candidate. This was a well thought out, bold face lie, meant to mislead the voters. She then compounds this lie with her bogus story of it being an honest mistake of an exhausted real human being. This is what we can expect from Hillary on Day-One if she is elected… and every day after! The only thing exhausted is her credibility!!! |
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| Mark from Michigan |
March 26th, 2008 12:12 pm ET Two things stand out from this Bosnia story. First, Hillary Clinton has boosted her campaign by touting her diplomatic and foreign policy experience, among them her visit to Bosnia. This story illustrates that her credentials are not as good as she wants us to believe. Second, her recollection of the landing in Bosnia, which she told not once when she was sleep-deprived, but several times to different audiences, was not a mistake. A mistake is thinking she met an 8 year old boy, not a girl. I might feel better if I thought she was lying, but this is worse. Like the Current Occupant, Hillary Clinton is removed from reality. She makes her own reality. That is simply dangerous. |
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| Denice |
March 26th, 2008 12:12 pm ET Truth and Hilliary don't occupy the same space! How anyone can still support her is a mystery to me. Who is her pastor? She should have found one that would teach her the 10 commandments then she would know bearing false witness aka lying is a sin! She is a good example of what coveting political power can do to diminish decency in a person. I have no more respect for anything Clinton. |
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| Rez from |
March 26th, 2008 12:13 pm ET What is being missed here from supporters is that Senator Clinton has had a history of releasing information with facts given the way she wants the issue to be presented. There is no question that others do it and have done it. However, as a candidate for the highest and most powerful office in the free world, you cannot afford to be anything but accurate, forth-rite and truthful. From Whitewater to Bosnia, the facts have been anything but accurate. Is she a good politician, mother, wife and lawyer? Sure. But White House worthy, well, lets get the "facts" straight on issues before deciding if she is ready for that. |
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| KC (Silver Spring, MD) |
March 26th, 2008 12:13 pm ET This is an example of a much larger issue. If she can't be trusted not to embellish small details, how can she be trusted with larger truths? I have a good friend who frequently embellishes the truth, and then believes herself. It makes trusting in what she says on any given topic a great challenge. This is not a personality trait I would want in my president. |
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| Burt |
March 26th, 2008 12:13 pm ET Why all of you are jumping on Hillary's Back? She has been in a gruling race with the media's favorite (Senator Obama and the Obama Girl). Was it news to put on your website Senator Obama's video while vacationing? She is tired and with time, memories become bleury. She said she is sorry and why don't you people leave it at that instead of making money off of her mishaps. When you will all go and stand before God for judgment, he is going to be asking, you media, what you've done good in your life; you will tell him that you've lived off people's miseries! |
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| Jon |
March 26th, 2008 12:13 pm ET re Cindy's comment about Hillary The reason this lie matters, is because Hillary is running on her wealth of "experience" as first lady. This incident reveals the simple truth that this "experience" is largely non-existent. And if that's the case, I fail to see how she has any real claim to being more ready than Barak Obama on Day 1. |
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| Thomas Morley |
March 26th, 2008 12:14 pm ET I love to sit by a crackling campfire or gaze and reflect into the flames of the fireplace. Fire is truly a remarkable thing. When controlled it will heat our homes cook our food or light our way on a dark night. When left unattended and unchecked it will consume everything in site. It shows no favoritism. It's only mission is to devour whatever is in it's path, leaving behind scorched earth. Scorched earth, it's a phrase we are all familiar with. It conjures up images of the final days of WW2, the burning Kuwaiti oil fields of Desert Storm and the final days of numerous dictators and cult leaders that decided to destroy everything rather then letting go. So here we are once again, we are witnessing another scorched earth by the Clinton's. Instead of seeing reality, or despite seeing it, they have chosen to destroy the Democratic Party and the opportunity that 2008 provides. With her candidacy rejected by the voters her husband and herself have decided to leave nothing standing. Like a fallen dictator they are systematically destroying the party. Recent remarks about the Richardson endorsement by their puppet James Carvill bear this out. What stands out to me is the fact that in this all or nothing attempt they are destroying what they claim to matter most. With her continued presence in the race she is effectively destroying Sen. Obama's chance at the White House and ensuring a Republican victory. In doing this she is destroying the things she says she champions, ending the war, health care, jobs and the economy. Hillary and Bill Clinton, if this continues will be responsible for the death of U.S. troops in Iraq. People losing their homes, and no universal health care. The blame will fall squarely on their shoulders. Her actions prove that her desire isn't to serve, it's to reign. It's time she stepped down and show us that her commitment to the causes she champions are more important then her ego. |
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| Erin in NJ |
March 26th, 2008 12:14 pm ET What this article does is establish a clear pattern of lying on the part of Hillary Clinton. The facts are all there for anyone to double-check: what she said, when she said it, whom she said it to... and what the truth actually is in comparison to her claims. The bottom line is that Hillary Clinton is a liar, has always been a liar, and will continue to be a liar. We already elected one blatant liar whose falsehoods led us into a war in Iraq – are we going to do it again this November? She may be a Democrat, but when it comes down to it, Hillary Clinton is cut from the same cloth as George W. Bush – both are pathological liars who just can't seem to stop and tell the truth... no matter how ridiculous their lies are. She misspoke about Bosnia? As if you could forget something as dramatic as being under sniper fire while exiting a plane with your teenage daughter? Give me a break! How stupid does she think the American people are? She lied! The reason Obama's camp is requesting the release of her tax docs is b/c of this pattern of lies from Clinton and her campaign. She has a long-standing reputation for lying – and is clearly against transparency in government, something Obama fully supports and has gone out of his way to live up to. Who knows what else she is hiding? She lied right to Tim Russert's face re: her position on NAFTA during the Ohio debate – even when he read several quotes from her in support of NAFTA. She simply sat there and lied once again on national television. She clearly has no conscience and will say whatever she needs to say to get elected. And if she is elected president, what will she lie to us about then? Will she send our husbands, wives, sons, daughters, friends and neighbors off to fight and die in another illegitimate war? And then 5 years in hit our TV screens telling us we're winning and everything is great and the 4,000 Americans who sacrificed their lives for a lie did not die in vain? She thought Iraq was such a good idea – she voted for it. Who knows what she'll do if elected. Once a liar, always a liar. Face it, people – the woman has no honor and no respect for the American people. Look at how she's trying to convince the delegates to vote for her instead of the people they were elected to represent. Isn't it great to know that you voted in a primary – according to all of the rules (not like MI & FL) – and now your vote may not count at all? Instead, at Hillary's urging, it will be decided in some smoky, back-room deal. Way to disenfranchise millions of voters and set democracy back a few centuries. Thomas Jefferson is probably spinning in his grave at the idea of someone with so little respect for truth and democracy and the Consitution potentially being elected. |
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| Bob |
March 26th, 2008 12:14 pm ET Still the media is afraid to use the "L" word. Hillary "misspoke" (her own choice or word), she "embellished," she "didn't quite remember accurately." At the time she made the comments about ducking sniper fire (which she used in speaches about 10 times) she was suffering from sleep deprivation (each time?) No, Hillary LIED. She misrepresented what she knew as the truth to suit her own needs - a pattern she has carried with her for years - Whitewater? WH Travel Office firings? Don't the Dems get it? She lies. And she sometimes gets caught in her own lies, because when a person begins lying, it's soon hard to distinguish fact from fabrication. |
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| Everett T. Barnes |
March 26th, 2008 12:14 pm ET What else has she lied about! If he was her pastor she would leave like she did with Bill, Ooops She is still with Bill. She meant to say if I couldn't become senator or president I would leave him. What perplexes me, no one on CNN but Cafferty has called her on anything. In closing, if Obama had blatanly lied to the public you would had be all over it. So do your job and uncover what everyone else knows.... She has no integrity..... |
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| Kelly |
March 26th, 2008 12:14 pm ET Am I the only one that finds it odd that she has said several times how dangerous the trip was, yet she let her 16 yr old daughter accompany her??? |
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| Mako |
March 26th, 2008 12:14 pm ET The irony is all of this... is that Mrs. Clinton has often judged Obama over the facts and claims he is living in a fantasy world of his own. Hmmm... really? The diference here is that Obama may be a "dreamer" (MLK anyone?)... but Clinton loves to dream about the past. I mean... literally to the point that she herself believes she was in a TOM CLANCY movie – and avoiding sniper fire – in order to believe she is an actual hero. The problem I see is that each of these canidates have fire in their eyes – but for different reasons. Clinton wants to be president because she wan't the power, the status and to be written into the history books. Obama wants to be president because he (like many of us) actually understands that the U.S.A. is on a downward spiral... and we need someone who has a vision to lead us out of it. In 2008 – I can guarantee you that will not be Clinton... and it will not be McCain. |
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| earl |
March 26th, 2008 12:14 pm ET A lie is a lie is a lie. Hillary needs to quit lying and her campaign would go a lot smoother. I don't think we need another lying aministration in the white house. |
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| Mike |
March 26th, 2008 12:14 pm ET I am a HRC supporter and I will admit its a bit odd. BUT what I will also say is hasn't the CORRECT account of what happened been highlighted in her book? Since that is the case I am going to give her the benefit of the doubt here just as I give BO the benefit he meant nothing racial with the "typical white person" comment. This article like so many on CNN however is presented as a news piece when it really is an opinoin piece. I have seen many such articles from Roland Martin that I thought were out of place on this ticker. |
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| kevin |
March 26th, 2008 12:15 pm ET Embellishing. People says its alright to embelligh, who is it hurting. Well, George Bush embellished and started a war. Whose to say she won't embellish if she is in office and wants to exert her commander-in-chief status. Embellishing, who does it hurt – people. |
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| Ryan Halloran |
March 26th, 2008 12:15 pm ET All the smear tactics, the negative publicity, the supposed lies uncovered in the months and weeks before an election serve to do nothing more than reinforce the plain and simple truth: elections are nothing more than guessing games. We have no way of knowing how any of these people will actually conduct themselves if and when the reach the White House – unless of course all other Americans are soothsayers and I was left out of that gene pool. All three candidates (Clinton, Obama, McCain) have all lied and cheated at some point in their lives – they are human. Therefore, people are so focused on what these people have done in their past, they forget about the future. The American people are then left to guess which candidate they think will do the best job, after each candidate and the media has done an overwhelmingly exceptional job of pointing out the others' flaws. Rather than focus on positive attributes, the ideas they have to improve our great nation, and allow the candidate to articulate how they intend to execute on their ideas, we spend our time talking about relatively meaningless topics such as this. Understanding the platform on which each candidate stands is exponentially more valuable in making an informed vote for President than focusing on the flaws and 'faux pas' of the past. Good luck America – I hope you guess right. The last thing we need is another eight years that result in what we have been through in the previous eight years. |
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| Daniel |
March 26th, 2008 12:15 pm ET Have the people criticizing Obama's relationship with Rev. Wright actually read his speech where he explains the relationship? Many of you literally do not know what you are talking about. If you're going to criticize Obama for this, you should at least make an effort to be well-informed. Obama did not lie about his experience at Trinity Church. I don't see why it is so hard for people to understand why he stayed there, in spite of Wright's inane comments. His whole candidacy is based on the idea that we all need to come together, even with people like Wright who we vehemently disagree with, and put aside our differences for the common good. The alternative—seizing on differences and demonizing your opposition—is the Bush philosophy, and how well has that worked out for America? |
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| Gawania |
March 26th, 2008 12:15 pm ET I am so disappointed in Hillary a woman contender and how her campaign will be remembered in history. She is 1st woman as a presidential candidate and somehow the way her campaign is run, the way she conducts herself is not what exemplifies womanhood for me (of course this is only my opinion). Her behavior appears unbalanced, and like some spoiled, bullying child. When she is challenged on her years in the white house, it is either none of our business, oh you can never understand (high and mighty) or give me a break (get off my back). It is not the American publics fault that what was done by her or her husband in the white house is our business, and we will continue to ask. Whenever she is confronted with her own issues, her response is never to address them but to blame anyone other than herself or husband. Then next immediately she attacks the other candidates as if to say look over here. Well she and no other woman can be proud of this since history is being made. She has brought even the role of a presidential candidate down to some stereotypes woman have strived to overcome for ages. Those stereotype is the witch, the shrew, the gold digger, and the snappish, uptight ticking bomb. Me myself, I would have even preferred the blonde bombshell. |
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| Eric Allard |
March 26th, 2008 12:16 pm ET Hillary Clinton is dishonest, deceitful and utterly unqualified to be president of this country. |
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| Mandy |
March 26th, 2008 12:16 pm ET Obama has been more than forthcoming about all his dealings with Resnick. He has spoken openly about his relationship with Rev. Wright. He has made all his tax returns public. He has been honest about drug use (and who posting here didn't toke in high school? Come on people! Get real.) He has the brass ones to take on race relations in a mature and responsible manner. Bill Clinton "didn't inhale." As if. He cheated on his wife IN THE OVAL OFFICE. Hillary Clinton "misspeaks" at every turn. About insignificant events. Then turns around and changes the subject off of herself. If she "remembers" things differently than they actually happened about rather insignificant events, how much more will that effect her memory about truly significant events if she were to become President? And do you really want to see another co-presidency with Bill and all his whores back in the White House? I certainly don't. I also don't want to see McCain anwering the phone at 3 a..m. I really don't want his itchy trigger finger pushing the nuclear button or staying in Iraq for another 100 years! Every state should have the opportunity to vote in their primary elections. Vote for whoever you want. But make the vote educated and informed. Don't just vote for someone based on their gender or the color of their skin...that is not what our nation is about. If it is, I'm moving to Canda! |
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| Terry from Upstate NY |
March 26th, 2008 12:16 pm ET Hillary can't use her "experience" as proof of ability to become Commander in Chief. The pictures released of her disembarking from the plane in war torn Bosnia speak a 1,000 words, contrasted with the pictures on Sunday of the soldiers standing near the place where the most recent American troops were blown to oblivion. And what mother brings her daughter to such a dangerous place? Yeah Hillary, It may well be the first time you misspoke in 'public', I can only imagine how you speak in private. I bet the words "the American people" never come in to the conversation. But I will cut you some slack, after all you may very well suffer from Post Traumatic Stress after that little girl read you that poem. It has been known to cause memory problems. But I haven't heard of it causing bald faced lying. |
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| wlgblg |
March 26th, 2008 12:16 pm ET As for Chelsea, she is speaking on behalf of her mother, why did she not want to answer question. It's a child trying to do a woman job. Step out the way Chelsea, If she refuse to answer, walk out. |
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| Julie E |
March 26th, 2008 12:16 pm ET Hilary's lying is evidence of her pathological need to make herself more important than she really is.. She desparately wants people to look up to her and think she is [brave] [heroic] [competent] [place appropriate adjective here]. For those of you who blindly support a woman who is incapable of telling and / or knowing the truth (and to any truly intelligent person – it undermines her credibility and competence) – one old saying comes to mind: Dance with the devil, and you're going to get burned. |
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| PAM |
March 26th, 2008 12:16 pm ET Hi , I am Canadian and have been watching the election and I remember the time of the Clinton Administration. How could anyone forget? I respect everyone having an opinion and I give credit to the Hillary Clintons supporters for standing up for their candidate but you can not ignore this article, facts are facts and during the Clinton administration mistakes were made and scandals have followed the Clinton's. Nevermind the Lewinsky scandal that is not what I am talking about . People do stupid things like extramarital affairs but when the Clinton's had dealings with notorious people then you have to question her judgement. To many people that questioned the Clintons on their dealings are suddenly disappear and or facing prison. Doesn't that make you wonder? If you notice Hillary is always has this attitude that someone is trying to frame her, CNN is being unfair to her, sorry this is not true I watch CNN all the time and they have been fairer to her than Obama. When your a reporter then the facts should outweigh tabloid headlines. Media has had a hayday on all this controversy and probably want this to go on because they make money on ratings! So as an impartial person and not able to vote I recommend that all parties Hillary Supporters and Obama Supporters take time to review the issues that each candidate wants to change when they become president. But research and get facts about the candidates, I also recommend the hostility on the blogs, bashing both candidates It is time to stop all this hate on both parties and get to the most important issues that are facing the American people. Also the Media is only creating a feeling of divisiveness. Shame on You! It is time the media rises above this type of reporting and stop this. If you say you are Patriotic then prove it. There is 2 candidates on the Democratic party that I believe want to change Washington. The Will of The People should not be ignored! |
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| GBryant |
March 26th, 2008 12:17 pm ET Why doesn't someone write an article about Obama's flaws? Just push him right in there and find out what happens when he is elected. Inexperienced and hangs out with radical pastors to name a couple. |
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| nancy |
March 26th, 2008 12:17 pm ET it's quite funny now when she says she would not have chosen Rev. Wright as her Pastor but, Hillary and Bill chose Obama's Pastor when they both felt Bill needed some healing during his famous Monica Days and his now, famous quote: "I DID NOT HAVE SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH THAT WOMAN"! It's such a shame how they use people when it's convenient for them and throw them away when it's time to run for President! America is waking up to the powerful and wonderful world of video! No Hillary for President say the People of PA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| Maximo |
March 26th, 2008 12:17 pm ET He "didn't have sex with that woman" and she "misspoke" about the sniper fire. A stained blue dress ferreted out the truth in the first instance and news video in the second instance. When coupled together, the words "Clinton" and "integrity" are a textbook definition of an oxymoron. |
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| Mark |
March 26th, 2008 12:17 pm ET She is a perennial liar. Just an extension of Bush |
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| DeBoth |
March 26th, 2008 12:17 pm ET Everytime I pull up CNN I see another disgusting story about Hillary. If he does get the nomination which I still DO NOT believe he will, he won't win the General. There are way too many Americans who will not allow this to happen and I am one of them. Karl Bernstein is an old fart who has outlived his usefulness and I can't believe CNN even has him on there. GET people like Karl and Jack Cafferty off the air, they are disingenuous, uninformative, old and boring. |
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| do not like Clinton, but . . . . |
March 26th, 2008 12:17 pm ET Although I voted for Clinton in 1992, I could hardly wait for the chance to vote against him in 1996. Also, I have little use for Senator Clinton, and I think she is even dangerous to the nation. At the same time, however, I think the media are failing to get at the bottom of the Obama-Wright connection. His explanation, while inspiring at times, really consisted of comparing his grandmother to Wright, a truly odious comparison the media and pundits bought hook, line, and sinker. Obama is not speaking truth, and the media are giving him a pass. Three questions for him and his supporters: What did he know? When did he know it? What action did he take upon learning it? |
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| Jason |
March 26th, 2008 12:17 pm ET I agree with this article. It points to so much of what Hilary creates around her. It is illusion and lies that will fill the white house once again if she is elected. I am so confused by those who see her as a strong candidate. She moves and shifts more for her own benefit than the people's and finds her comfort in dodging the truth than living up to the hard truths. Her way of running things should throw caution into the face of voters, not lead them to her. Be informed and vote for change rather than a smoke screen with change covering the coat-tails of the person for whom no change can come.... |
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| Donna Harworth |
March 26th, 2008 12:17 pm ET I am personally glad that Mrs Clinton answered the question, I am glad that someone feels the same as me about someone who would preach such hatred towards his fellow Americans. I can forgive and forget mistakes that people make we are all human, but to not be able to make a decision about what we would want our children to learn does not make any since to me. |
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| Jane |
March 26th, 2008 12:17 pm ET Based on the NYPost.com, the Military seems rather upset Hillary would LIE. There are many soldiers fighting for their lives and are trying to avoid real sniper fire. To all accounts, these are the REAL soldiers and maybe they should run for President. They are surely more qualified than Hillary. I lost two US friends in Iraq due to sniper fire so I as an American take this very serious! Hillary the LIAR. She can't be trusted to walk the dog around the block. |
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| Lynn Pecora |
March 26th, 2008 12:17 pm ET Poor Obama. Do we want a crybaby in the White House. Wait to the Republicans get ahold of him. Carl Bernstein has never said anything nice about the Clintons. After 12 years all of us usually don't get the facts right. So give me a break. People don't you remember the 90's. Great years. I believe we can have those years again. I don't hold President Clinton cheating against him. How many people do you know who has cheated. Quite a few and I'm sure a lot more that we don't know but have. We have more to worry about than these stupid things, but i think a person who would attend church for 20 years and listen to the hate America has a problem. I don't want him to be my President. |
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| Terry |
March 26th, 2008 12:17 pm ET Why is it "NOBODY"S" business when it comes to Hillary's credibility and that hidden agenda she had for remaining in a marriage with Bill, but it's "EVERYBODY'S" business when it comes to Barack and why he remained with his pastor? If Chelsea is going to campaign as an adult, she needs to be treated as an adult. Why is the media, including the women on the view, being so nice to her and her "ARROGANT" response to that college student? We all know Hillary stayed with Bill to keep "HIS" supporters, so she would have his base when she was ready to run for president. CALL IT THE WAY IT TRULY IS PEOPLE. I was a Hillary supporter. Chelsea killed that with her rudeness. It's everybody's business; it happened in the White House!! |
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| Deborah, Louisville, KY |
March 26th, 2008 12:17 pm ET I think a lot of people are missing the point here. Hillary Clinton is applying for a job. The job of a lifetime! The debates and speeches are her job interviews for this position. She has, in my opinion, failed in her interview for the job by LYING. When you are interviewing for a job, and the employer has irrefutable proof and information in front of them that is contradictory to the verbal assertions of the job applicant, the interview is OVER for the applicant! The employer does not call this embellishment! And neither do I. By the way, for all the Hillary-supporters who are trying to diffuse and confuse the situation... when applying for a job, it has never been important to ask , "Who was your pastor." |
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| L. Young |
March 26th, 2008 12:17 pm ET As a registered Democrat, I'm glad the veracity of Senator Clinton's claims, especially on her foreign policy experience, are being examined and debated now. Carl Bernstein makes a very strong point regarding the relevance of these comments to primary voters when he writes, "Her record as a public person is replete with 'misstatements' and elisions and retracted and redacted and revoked assertions." Also, as Bernstein mentions, voters need to consider her disastrous handling of healthcare reform, the impact of which we are still feeling to this day. All this makes me wonder if Clinton can't even be honest about what actually did happen, how can she possibly learn from her mistakes, of which there have been (and continue to be) many? If by some sleight of hand Clinton manages to end up with the Democratic nomination, the Republicans will not be gentle in their use of that record and I'm afraid we'll be in for 4 more years of Republican rule. Primary voters need to put an end to this ASAP, starting with Pennsylvania and continuing through Puerto Rico. |
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| krenz |
March 26th, 2008 12:17 pm ET ." I’m certain there are plenty of inaccuracies in Obama’s life, but then again where was he and who was he 10 years ago? And now that Hillary is questioning Obama’s relationship with his pastor, they say “how can she stoop so low”? At least its current and relavent to his morals and the CURRENT issues at hand." I see, so hillary cant remember not being under sniper fire and its ok for her to lie cause it was a long time ago, but you insist Mr. Obama is a liar because you are convinced that he he has to remember if he was in church on a day 5 years ago? Not only that, but he has to be called into account for someone else's words and opinions?? Why the double standard? HMMMMM. I thought i'd seen it all, now because there is nothing else to lynch him with, Obama has to swing because you want to believe he was in CHURCH on a particular sunday 5 years ago????? |
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| Karen M |
March 26th, 2008 12:17 pm ET I would like to think that if a person is under "sniper fire" and had to rush out of a plane to take cover, then this memory, especially a president's wife, would be accurate. Personally, I find it hard to believe that the "powers that be" would even allow a president's wife and daughter to even land in an area that would be "active." These types of statements by Hillary are a problem. They seem to show a pattern. If she is making these types of misstatements now, what makes you think it will change if she is elected as the democratic nominee, and if fortunate, the president of the United States? We already have a liar and an "embellisher" as the president now. Do we really want more of this? |
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| Truth, Honesty, Ethnics, Faith, & Values!!!! |
March 26th, 2008 12:17 pm ET Truth, she don't know how to tell it |
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| James Martin |
March 26th, 2008 12:17 pm ET She is a politician. ALL of them lie, including Obama and McCain. ALL of them. Instead of harping on her lie which did no damage to anyone but herself why don't you report on the almost deadly lies that Bush and company tell daily. |
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| JD, Pittsburgh, PA |
March 26th, 2008 12:17 pm ET It's interesting to me that Reverend Wright hasn't appeared on any of the news networks to defend and/or explain himself. Why? There's more to this story that hasn't come out yet. Barack is NOT the candidate he claims to be. |
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| Dreyfus |
March 26th, 2008 12:17 pm ET If I misspoke on my resume like Hillary did about Bosnia, I would be fired. How can someone who so blatantly lies ("I remember running for cover" is NOT misspeaking) to improve their image be trusted when it come time for them to promote a piece of legislation? How can someone so demonstrably dishonest be accepted as a good fit for the most important job in the world? Yes, all people lie. But some do so far more often than others. Especially now, we need a president who can be trusted. Hillary has proven once again that she doesn't deserve our trust. |
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| Jean243 |
March 26th, 2008 12:17 pm ET If this is an indication of what kind of president she'd be, I'm worried. What she did was to panic when she started falling behind and to correct that, chose to use dirty tactics. When the going got tough, she didn't look at the big picture of the election as a whole, of the Democratic Party's needs, and of the needs of the country. She didn't have a game plan for "what if Obama starts winning." She tried to front-load the primaries but the DNC said "no" to Florida and Michigan. |
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| Isaac |
March 26th, 2008 12:18 pm ET Hillary is a great and she said that she misspoke. She is honest and care about America. I love her because i know like her Husband she will make America to rise up again economically and bring our troops home responsibly...Go Hillary Go Hillary |
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| Sarah Salim from Bend, Oregon |
March 26th, 2008 12:18 pm ET The sad thing about all this is we allow the intolerant republicans to use the ignorant excuse when using these awful tactics but Hillary knows better. I can't beleive that I once said she would be our next president. She better turn around soon if she wants to save any grace she ever had. I don't deny both the Clintons have done well for the country but the power and greed that is so present in the Bush Administration seems to have taken over the morals and ethics of the Clinton brigade as well. |
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| Tom |
March 26th, 2008 12:18 pm ET ENOUGH IS ENOUGH STOP STUPIDITY THIS COUNTRY AND WORLD IS FACING EXTREME CHALLENGES SO SUPPORT THE "ONCE A LIFE TIME LEADER BARACK OBAMA" I AM WHITE AND HAVE MUCH MORE JUDGEMENT AND EXPERIENCE ABOUT THE WORLD THAN ANY OF YOU EMPLOYEE OR ANALYST HAVE. SO FOR GOD SAKE STOP STUPIDITY AND DO NOT DOWNGRADE YOUR SERVICE. ”The Reverend Jeremiah Wright is an outstanding church leader whom I have heard speak a number of times,” Snyder wrote. “He has served for decades as a profound voice for justice and inclusion in our society. To evaluate his dynamic ministry on the basis of two or three sound bites does a grave injustice to Dr. Wright, the members of his congregation, and the African-American church which has been the spiritual refuge of a people that has suffered from discrimination, disadvantage, and violence. Dr. Wright, a member of an integrated denomination, has been an agent of racial reconciliation while proclaiming perceptions and truths uncomfortable for some white people to hear. Those of us who are white Americans would do well to listen carefully to Dr. Wright rather than to use a few of his quotes to polarize.” |
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| chris |
March 26th, 2008 12:18 pm ET it is clear and obvious to anyone who is truthful, that Hillary Clinton will say anything, do anything to get what she wants. It is obvious that the "reporter" in the crowd was planted by Hillary's staff to ask the tired Wright question as a diversion. It is a zero sum game with the Clintons and they are like the Little Prince/Machiavelli. Always have been. She will make a terrible president. People like allxdreamer are "protesting too much" and in deep, deep denial. Lukily, there are less of them in the country. Pennsylvania will surprise America with a resounding victory for Obama. |
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| Paul K. |
March 26th, 2008 12:18 pm ET Hillary supporters, |
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| Chris from North Dakota |
March 26th, 2008 12:18 pm ET Every candidate has inconsistancies. To paraphrase what Hillary said we're all human. We make mistakes. I can buy that. That's an honest enough answer. But the real problem isn't the mistakes, The problem is how consistant the 'mistakes' are. Memories are a strange thing and Hillary needs to either a) straiten up and be honest or b) check her facts before she mis-speaks. She's the only one that knows which of these two things she needs to do. Hillary has a pretty shady past that has been largely overlooked by the general populous. She should be very thankful that Obama has not decided to go for the throat. It would not benefit the race or the Democratic party any. So he has kept his stance combative, but at least within reletively decent taste. McCain will not be so cordial. For those of you who depend on one source for your information to make all decisions. Go find the real stories and make your decisions based on full stories (which no one site seems to have it all). CNN's stories are fairly one sided, which makes it that much more important to find the full story. How many people have actually checked out the candidates' home pages and actually know what their platforms are? Check it out. You might be surprised. Obama is not racist unless he's the best actor I have ever met (which is a substantial list). Nobody gets a national government position by being inexperienced. Even if one is inexperienced in various areas, this is where advisors/the cabinet come in. Any worthwhile leader knows that. So stop with the hate for either candidate. There's not a person in this election that is worth the time and effort to actually bring out comments that strong and it hurts the image of both candidates when you do. |
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| Kristyn A. |
March 26th, 2008 12:18 pm ET What is wrong with Hillary supports? It's clear that Obama supporters are the more educated. We are more open-minded and able to discern fact from Hillary lies. We intelligently listen to Obama and make informed decisions about his statements. We are able to differentiate his statement and beliefs from his pastors. But Obama helps, for he is honest and forthright with the American people. We may not agree with everything he says, but we get a gut instinct that he is sincere in what he says, unlike what we get in Hillary I just don't get these Hillary supports. They support her no matter what lies she tells. Ok, not fair. Some who supported Hillary earlier have crossed over to Obama after seeing Hillary's dirty tricks. But the ones who stick with her even after they see what low and dirty tricks she is capable of, and after seeing her willingness and ability to tear the Democratic party apart, all for the sake of power. Wake up Hillary supporters! |
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| Melanie |
March 26th, 2008 12:18 pm ET I think great leaders are, at their core, honest, open, compassionate and able to see themselves as others see them. I also believe they are loyal to those who have helped them. I do not see HRC as a great leader. In fact, I think she's quite delusional. For those of you who insist that Obama "lied" about his ties to his long-time minister, you have clearly not heard the speech he gave. At least read the transcript. He was not present at the sound-bites you've seen, and he puts those into context in his speech. I think he's a fine man, a fine senator and will make a great president. I believe in him and actually admire that he is not willing to denounce a man who has helped him spiritually. No, not "everyone" lies at some point. Just another excuse to keep the Clinton bulldozer operational. With Hillary saying, "Let the voters decide," why can she not let the super-delegates decide as well. When those who have decided to back Obama let her know their decision ahead of announcing it, they have reported (nicely) that it was an "uncomfortable" conversation. Not surprising. This woman would do anything to win, including making threats and retaliating against supporters of her opposition. Do you really think she could lead a country and spread peace and prosperity? Good grief. |
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| MIchael McCormick |
March 26th, 2008 12:18 pm ET Day by day it is becoming clear that Hillary will do anything, including lying about easily verifiable facts, to achieve her life-long goal of amassing power. God help the United States. |
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| Jen |
March 26th, 2008 12:18 pm ET Hillary Clinton is a congenital liar. Does anyone else find it amazing that she was for NAFTA, for war in IRAQ and now she's running for POTUS and has changed her tune people believe her? American idiots! |
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| Marty Clark |
March 26th, 2008 12:18 pm ET She is much like her husband in one respect....if successful the world will be subjuected to "Clintonisms", which are what the rest of the free world refers to as "lies". This is all about "win at all costs" for her....and for him. Why lie, and more importantly in her mind seems to be why not lie. If you don't lie, you don't have to worry about remembering what happened, it will come naturally. She is a known liar. I am from another country but pay close attention to US politics. I like McCain and I really like Obama. I truly think that if Clinto is elected the US will be begging for Dubya to come back:) |
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| Russ |
March 26th, 2008 12:18 pm ET While it may be true that the biases and fallibility of human nature leads to our own recollection of the "truth" as we see it, it's sadder still that this country's politicians don't appear to have any accountability for their own actions and core beliefs. I've embellished many things in my life, and even recalled things completely wrong, but this doesn't appear to coincide with a "mistake" as Senator Clinton so vehemently denies in her statement. Imperfect or not, if your core values don't align with your rhetoric, then why bother talking publicly at all? Why bother becoming a politician? The fact is, that many of us say one thing, and do another. That's the beauty of being human, of being imperfect. I would imagine it's very difficult being in the public eye so frequently. Yet when your statements don't appear to add up, especially when checked against your so-called "core values", then you begin to have a credibility problem. Even more so when it's been a recurring theme over 18+ years of being involved in legislation, policymaking, and being scrutinized in the public eye. Her behavior isn't the media's fault, Obama, McCain, or even the Republicans' fault. The truth is, it's her own fault for lacking the integrity to tell the truth in the first place. None of these other people I mentioned are exempt. Their lack of candor in many things leaves the door open to complete scrutiny, whether by the media or anyone else. In short, it's their own stinking fault for not aligning their personal and public "values" with their core beliefs. |
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| JB |
March 26th, 2008 12:18 pm ET As I read through these comments, the bias for the interpretation of these facts are evident. In many cases, whichever candidate you support directs your interpretation of the facts. Barack and Hillary have both said and done questionable things before and during their campaigns. The media reports these cases (fairly equally), and for the most part allow the public to decide. There are occassional opinions and bias attached to the reports, but if you read, or watch, them critically you are able to differentiate between the author's opinion and the facts, but the fact that opinions are inserted should not dilute the importance of the issue itself. The cadidates, not the media, have decided through their words and actions what will be fodder for the media. The media presents the story and it is your job to discern its importance. Don't allow yourself to be fooled into thinking either candidate is or has been treated unfairly by the media. Both Hillary and Barack have both had their share of problems, and it is the problems themselves which should be carefully analyzed and interrpreted by each reader, and the candidate's acknowledgement and response which can potentially "save" them from their human errs. |
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| Chris England |
March 26th, 2008 12:18 pm ET My first read of a Carl Bernstein piece, and was very impressed. The details about Mrs. Clinton's failures are troubling. The damage to the Democratic party that she is inflicting in her scorch-earth campaign against the other junior senator in the race is also troubling. |
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| AnnaMae Bean |
March 26th, 2008 12:19 pm ET What the heck is going on here? Every single American has embellished sometime. Why so hard on Hillary. So, if you don't like her that's your right, but to call her a liar is not only unfair but un-American. Obama the pure my unfortunate foot. He is a liar about saying he never heard his Pastor say anything that would denigrate white people. As passionate as Wright was when he smeared Whites, the USA, and Jews in twenty years, Obama can't say his virgin ears never heard any of it. TWENTY YEARS people..........20............It's amazing the press wouldn't run with it when Ron Kessler broke the story more than a month ago. Opray can't make a Prez but the press can................ |
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| L |
March 26th, 2008 12:19 pm ET It's obvious that everyone is very passionate on who they are/are not supporting and why. That is great for our country in this election year. However, it would be nice to read these comments pages (on CNN and elsewhere) without all the negative comments towards other posters. We're all on the same page here, folks. We all care about who is elected and why. I have not liked Hillary since before Bill was elected, and I have seen nothing in recent months to make me change my mind. Do I have doubts about Obama? Sure, but nothing that would not make me vote for him. So his pastor said some things that most of us find repulsive – Obama did not say them. So, he didn't walk out on the sermons. Maybe he wanted to hear other points of view, rather than make a judgement on one or two comments. In my mind that is the mark of a good leader – to be able to listen to everyone's point of view (whether you agree with it or not) and to be able to decide accordingly. That's one of the founding principles of our country – to be able to speak and think what we like, whether or not it's "right" in everyone's eyes. Hillary LIED about her time in Bosnia and had NO reason to, other than to pad her resume. If she is as experienced as she claims, she would not need to do this, right? |
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| Tenchan |
March 26th, 2008 12:19 pm ET Please, dear God, don't let her play the victim and get away with this one, or sweep it under the carpet. She had control of her own actions, her campaign workers could have cut her mic, nudged her ribs... Wright is NOT Obama, and you ~cannot~ say, clearly, Obama made said polarizing remarks, or forced the reverend to do so.. Clinton had full control of herself on every 'mis-spoken' moment. That's the huge difference. |
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| Lloyd |
March 26th, 2008 12:19 pm ET Once again it becomes clear that Hillary is bound and determined to sway voters using mis-statements (lies) and re-inventing history and facts to suit her own view of the world. |
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| William Miley |
March 26th, 2008 12:19 pm ET Regarding Senator Clinton's faulty memory on her visit to Bosnia, it seems to me that someone who had been shot at would remember it clearly in its entirety (the "Where were you when JFK was shot?" effect), been unable to remember it (post traumatic stress disorder), or would have had very strong emotional reactions to it. It is a cataclysmic event. People have developed serious post traumatic stress disorders from it. Many of our men and women in service have developed these stress reactions from real sniper fire in combat. It makes no sense to me whatsoever that she dismisses the misremembered "sniper " experience in Bosnia with the cavalier statement, "I am only human", and "I make mistakes too". It is no wonder some people in our Armed Forces are upset with her. Carl Bernstein's implicit thesis that Senator Clinton habitually misrepresents herself for political gain rings true to me. |
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| Steve |
March 26th, 2008 12:19 pm ET Misspoke. That's pretty funny. I always thought those were small things like, "I said the appointment is at 8:00, but it's really at 10:00". This was a flat out lie, and a lie told to boost her credibility on foreign policy during a foreign policy themed speech. This was they type of carefully calculated lie that was a legacy of the Clinton White House. This is a perfect example how she will say anything to get elected.. Anybody but Clinton in 08. |
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| Chris McCoy |
March 26th, 2008 12:19 pm ET Misstated/mispoke denotes something that happens by accident...once. Lie is domething you do deliberately to fool people...repeatedly. Saying "Obama did too" does not excuse that she deliberately lied in the hopes she could convince us rubes (voters) that she has real diplomatic experience. I'm not sure about Obama yet, he truly seems to have not known about some of reverend Wright's statements. Hillary's lie smacks of another famous lie told to us by another Clinton. Wagging his finger "I did not have sex with that woman." He lied, she lied, I wonder how big of a liar Chelsea will be considering the example her parents set? I am very forgiving of mistakes, but this is a deliberate lie, and I've believed one too many of those from the Clintons already. |
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| John |
March 26th, 2008 12:19 pm ET allxdreamer speaks for MANY MANY Democrats! Keep it up libs. Your delusion is going to get you McCain in the WH. I can hear your crying now, "We've been robbed! Its a conspiracy! Obama DID WIN. Hold me." |
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| Jennifer |
March 26th, 2008 12:19 pm ET I was an ardent supporter of Hillary Clinton, even going so far as to volunteer 4 days assisting the Clinton campaign with fundraising. But this latest “misstatement” bothers me quite a bit and has caused me to reconsider my position and here is why: The past 8 years of the Bush presidency has been marred with exaggerations and misstatements/lies that has unnecesarily cost the lives of thousands of dedicated, dutiful, young soldiers as well as 100+ thousand(depending on which statistic you reference) of Iraq civilian lives. This is not simply a situation where she “misspoke,” this is a situation in which she lied. It is one thing to say that you were in Bosnia and you felt threatened – it is another to state emphatically on multiple occasions that you were under gun fire. This was nothing shy of a self serving purposeless lie that causes me to question two things: 1) Has she “misspoken” in the past on her contribution during Bill Clinton’s tenure in office, and 2) Kitchen Sink/Knee Cap effect – How far will you she go to become President – her deflection to Obama’s minister when questioned about her comments was unacceptable. |
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| Lucifer |
March 26th, 2008 12:19 pm ET If it's Hillary, am keeping my vote in my pocket. |
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| Michelle |
March 26th, 2008 12:19 pm ET DRAFT AL GORE! |
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| Simon |
March 26th, 2008 12:19 pm ET "I would never vote for Obama because of his conduct"- what on earth has the man done wrong? |
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| Rebecca |
March 26th, 2008 12:19 pm ET Carl Bernstein, 360° Contributor You must have a psychology degree. I mean, that would be the only reason as to why you feel you have the right to comment on her personalaity and mental capacity. Sorry, using your own book does not give this article credability. It is only promoting your book. CNN seems to be promoting Hate mongering, because that is all these articles seem to be generating as of late. I am very disappointed. |
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| Larry |
March 26th, 2008 12:19 pm ET I want to vote for Hillary Clinton for my own reasons, not the least of which are that she is a womam, and I have a very cloudy, romantic, fond recollections of the Clinton years. Please, media, stop reporting when Hillary lies! Please stop telling me things I don't want to hear. I will vote for her in any case, but when the media calls her out on her lies, it makes me have to do even more rationalizing. Plus, I'm afraid others might change their mind about voting for Hillary based on the facts that are being reported. |
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| patricia hussein |
March 26th, 2008 12:19 pm ET TO: Cindy in Covington, GA |
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| John Smith |
March 26th, 2008 12:19 pm ET It's not so much that she "embellished" or exaggerated a little, its that she either 1) lied or 2) has severely faulty memory problems or 3) has a horribly skewed perception of reality. Although, apparently, these qualities won't prevent you from being elected president (see George Bush's record), none of these qualities that will make her effective as a so-called candidate of "change" and, further such gaffes will significantly hurt her in a general election against McCain who at least maintains the appearance of being genuine (regardless of what you think of his politics). "Forgetting" where you placed your car keys, or that you once agreed with the DNC on Michigan and Florida or with Nevada elections officials regarding the caucuses being held on the strip, is one thing. But there is NO WAY you can "forget" that you were NOT actually under sniper fire (unless you are mentally impaired in which case you should not be elected president). That would be akin to Bill "forgetting" he had "relations" with miss Lewinsky. Totally disingenuous on the part of Hillary Clinton. But then I've come to expected that from her now. I wish she would just fess-up, be honest and quit exaggerating. She was doing just fine before all of this mess. Not that I ever loved her as a candidate, but now I am starting to like her much less. Obama clearly has the edge on transparency. |
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| mark |
March 26th, 2008 12:19 pm ET Hillary is and has always been untrustworth as far as what she believes and says. It Is just as simple as I do not trust her or her husband. I have supported them both for as long as I could, that time for me as for the majority of the voters in our primaries has passed. |
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| Byron |
March 26th, 2008 12:19 pm ET Unfortunately, Hillary lied. The last thing we need in a nominee, especially because of President Clinton's history, that so obviously lies. On the other hand, Obama answered his associaton with his minister intelligently and honestly. |
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| Janice, Aberdeen, SD |
March 26th, 2008 12:19 pm ET I can't think of any person who isn't usually under sniper fire (such as a soldier) who would mis-remember being under or near sniper fire. The vast majority of us would recall it down to the exact hour and exact place. Even if we take her at her word, she's either seriously out of touch with reality or who knows what..... The more likely conclusion is that she lied about it on purpose and for political effect. And that's pretty serious, too. Can we please have her exit the race now? |
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| koliy |
March 26th, 2008 12:19 pm ET Hillary simply cannot tell the truth. Here’s her scorecard: Admitted Lies • Chelsea was jogging around the Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2001. (She was in bed watching it on TV.) Whoppers She Won’t Confess To • She didn’t know about the FALN pardons. With a record like that, is it any wonder that we suspect her of being less than honest and straightforward? |
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| Michael (US citizen working in Brazil) |
March 26th, 2008 12:20 pm ET In a USA Today/Gallup survey when people were asked whether the canditates were "honest and trustworthy", Senator John McCain came in first with 67percent, Senator Barrack Obama second with 63 percent and Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton came in last with 44 percent. Some of her "mispoken stories" include... 1. Daughter Chelsea was jogging around the Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2001. (In reality, she was sleeping in bed.) 2. She was named after Sir Edmund Hillary. (He climbed Mount Everest FIVE YEARS AFTER HER BIRTH!.) 3. She came running off a plane in Bosnia because she was under sniper fire. (That's not the way the CBS camera recorded it. In reality, a girl presented her with flowers at the foot of the ramp.) 4. She was able to make a big killing in the futures market of what she learned in The Wall Street Journal. (TWSJ didn't cover the market back then.) |
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| Bill Hamer |
March 26th, 2008 12:20 pm ET We all ready have a president who lies to the citizens of this country, we don't need another. |
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| Joe |
March 26th, 2008 12:20 pm ET Hillary Clinton thinks she has automatic title to the White House, but we should skip her and consider Chelsa maybe twenty years from now. She lied at the gate about her trip to Bosnia and called it a mistake, well that 3AM Red Phone call don't allow space for error. Bill Clinton works were no more than what any president should, you superdelegates don't owe the Clintons anything, get over it and do what is right for today's situation. America has become big mess, and we are still policing the world. A billion dollars for the presidency, with sky high gas prices, stagnated wages, and a mortage meltdown. |
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| Steph R. |
March 26th, 2008 12:20 pm ET To all commentators above who think this doesn't matter: |
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| Swalker327 |
March 26th, 2008 12:20 pm ET Hillary is a liar and will continue to lie, scratch and steal to get to that coveted top seat. Now how can you remember being ushered down a runway with snipers everywhere when nothing could be further from the truth unless you are a big fat liar who doesn't know the truth from your own BS. Hillary - do us all a favor and get the heck out NOW!!! You are no different from Bush - a liar and a cheat !!!!!!!! |
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| Brett |
March 26th, 2008 12:20 pm ET How could she be so naive to think the press would have overlooked an attack on the First Lady when it actually happened? Could you imagine the coverage it would have gotten if she actually had come under attack? |
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| Chris |
March 26th, 2008 12:20 pm ET Does anyone remember that will Bill Clinton was running for office, he asked for and secured the endorsement of Rev. Wright? Just something to think about. |
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| Juan |
March 26th, 2008 12:20 pm ET As the article says Hillary Clinton is a congenital liar and everyone who votes for her should know that. If she becomes the President, the U.S. will go down the hill as it had never done before. For the democrats, Obama is the best choice. |
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| Joy |
March 26th, 2008 12:20 pm ET Just another showing of Hillary's scary lack of trustworthiness. It's sad that her devious and flat-out evil nature has actually made me hate her. I can guarantee you this: if she wins the nomination (which she can only do by cheating at this point), Ralph Nader will get my vote. I refuse to be a part of Hillary becoming president, when she is clearly incapable of telling the truth or keeping her own family in check. |
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| Greg Ballantyne |
March 26th, 2008 12:20 pm ET As all the rest of you idiots know by now the difference between Barak Obama and Hillary Clinton on issues is microscopic. For all of you crying about issues get this: THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY NOMINATION IS NOT ABOUT ISSUES THIS TIME! It is purely and only about leadership and ability to effect change. Dennis Kuchinich (sp?) nearly always gets the issues right, but would never get elected and might be a truly lousy president. IT AIN'T THE ISSUES ITS WHAT YOU CAN DO ABOUT THEM! And let me tell you, liars have no credibility. But don't worry, the only one who does not know that Hillary cannot win is Hillary.... but there's no "news" in a race that's over HILLARY WAKE UP – THE GAME IS OVER |
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| Elle |
March 26th, 2008 12:21 pm ET How does the Bosnia exaggeration even compare to the bold and deceiptful lies that Obama has told. |
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| Russel Jeffords |
March 26th, 2008 12:21 pm ET Once again we have Billary lying to the public, the media, herself.....indeed to everyone. Hillary even manages to lie when the truth would serve her better, a trait shared with one of America's great Presidents, Richard M. Nixon. Unfortunately, HIllary has not the intellect, the daring, the certainty, and the poise that Mr. Nixon did – qualities for which one could overlook a collection of faults. Hillary's rabid paranoia is another issue – and very much splashed over the pages of the DSM – and worries me far more than her tendency to lie about facts large and small. This woman will bring the world to war because some leader or another will tell her to jam it – and her tiny little ego will not be able to stand the strain. Worried? More like scared spitless when it comes to Hillary "leading," America. She's dangerous, boys and girls. Take note. |
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| SL |
March 26th, 2008 12:21 pm ET The democrats are going to lose big this coming election. McCain is far from the perfect guy to be the next president especially on his war stance, but he will easily beat either Clinton or Obama. These two have LOSER written all over them. The democrats really need to re-evaluate themselves if they ever plan on winning the white house again. It's really sad because I would surely prefer to vote for a democrat over a republican, but there is just NO way I can pull the lever for either of these two! |
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| Richard Marcus, MD |
March 26th, 2008 12:21 pm ET A mistake is... ...locking your keys in your car. These are all examples of mistakes. You chose to embellish your trip to Bosnia by claiming you were under sniper fire and then blamed it on sleep deprivation...probably staying up for too many 3 AM phone calls. I think I'd remember pretty clearly if I ever had anyone shooting at me. Your foreign policy experience? Would that be Bosnia (a lie)? Ireland (a lie)? China (a lie)? Iraq (you voted for W's policy)? |
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| Alphaman |
March 26th, 2008 12:21 pm ET Cindy, What does it matter that she "embellished"? First, it wasn't an embellishment, it was a flat out lie. A vividly expressed, matter of fact, forcefully delivered lie. In and of itself it wouldn't be such a big issue except for two MAJOR points: 1) Her whole campaing against Sen. Obama has been that she has more experience and is more prepared to serve on day 1. Her examples of this included Northern Ireland and Bosnia. Both have now been proven to be lies. The foundation of her campaign is based on lies. 2) This is becoming a pattern. Northern Ireland, Bosnia, NAFTA, etc... We just had a President take us into war based on lies. Can we afford to elect the next president who has such a tremendous record of dishonesty? Mr. Bernstein's article and book points out the history and record of dishonesty. |
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| Scotto |
March 26th, 2008 12:21 pm ET CNN is biased towards Obama? You have to be kidding! It has not been dubbed the "Clinton News Network" for nothing. Outside of Cafferty, this is the first time I've seen them acknowledge the obvious fact of her campaign: that it based on mis-representing the truth. Most egregious is the idea that it's somehow in the interests of democracy for her to perpetuate a hopeless & increasingly desperate quest when it is apparent that she can not secure the nomination without violating the will of the majority of voters & irreparably damaging her own party. |
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| Chris C. |
March 26th, 2008 12:21 pm ET To the person who wrote, "We all at some point or another tell lies," I want to respond, "No, we don't." Some of us tell the truth. Perhaps (as another writer said) we remember situations from individual perspectives, but most of us try to tell the truth all the time. It seems to me impossible to believe that one would say one had faced sniper fire when one had not. This is not a mis-remembering; this is clearly outright myth-making. Only you can't make a myth when there is video to contradict the story. Besides this, one of the most pressing and depressing problems in this country is the question of health care for those who are uninsured - and even for those who are. Hillary Clinton had a shot at this once and failed completely. I don't believe she can do it on a second try either. For these reasons - and because he is a brilliant and inspiring person who will make wise choices for our country - I will vote for Barack Obama in the primary. If he does not receive the nomination, I plan to vote for McCain. |
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| Chip |
March 26th, 2008 12:21 pm ET To call her "a congenital liar" is inadequate. She does not know the difference between a lie and the truth, and she is totally unprincipled. |
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| Edgar |
March 26th, 2008 12:21 pm ET Hillary made a mistake or better said exagerated her comments. One thing is true – she has a lot more expereince then Barak ever will! Nuff said.. |
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| Bob |
March 26th, 2008 12:21 pm ET Asbestos or not, her pant-suit DOES seem to be on fire... |
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| Jason |
March 26th, 2008 12:21 pm ET I never thought that democrats would be behave so ugly and pathetic. Maybe you should go look at what foxnews bloggers are blogging about the democrats. A recent polls show democrats voting for Mc Cain if there representive dosen't win. Those are not true democrats and that why this party is headed towards destruction. I have always supported the Clintons but it is pathetic that Hillary is still in this race and she does not realistically have a chance to win but I tell you this much I don't support her anymore because the Clintons true colors have shown. They would rather fight till the end and lead the party to destruction. Real democrats please vote for Obama to end this unesscary drama, so we can get those damn republicans out of office!!! |
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| Lea Reiter |
March 26th, 2008 12:21 pm ET Hillary is making comments about Reverend Wright now, because two months from now the story will unfold about her unsavory religious affiliation with an elitist Capitol Hill bible study group called The Fellowship, also knows as The Family. A former member of this group has written an expose to be released May 20, 2008 and published by Harper Collins. The Author's name is Sharlet. Should be a very interesting read. |
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| Rene |
March 26th, 2008 12:21 pm ET I wonder if Sen. Obama ever embellished anything? |
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| HSD-NYC |
March 26th, 2008 12:21 pm ET It seems that Clinton's supporters – like Clinton herself – prefer to cacoon themselves in their own fantacies about this candidate. WE have had to deal with one lier in the White House for 8 years – and now, these so called Democrats are eager to send another lier to the Whitehouse. Could it be that the Clinton Democrats are really Rush Limbaugh disciples in disguise? |
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| Martino |
March 26th, 2008 12:21 pm ET Wow. The women are really worked up. First of all, the facts now show unequivocally that Barack Obama told the truth when he said he wasn't present when the sermons circulating on YouTube were given. |
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| Karly |
March 26th, 2008 12:21 pm ET Hiliary is dangerous – The White House by any means necessary. |
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| Lawrence |
March 26th, 2008 12:21 pm ET As Cindy and others continue to miss the point, A presidential race is supposed to get the the Moral Core of a candidate. In this Clinton utterly and completely fails. Lawrence from Beverly Hills |
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| Rose Aladin |
March 26th, 2008 12:21 pm ET Mrs Clinton's supprters' efforts to underplay her untruths as irrelevant |
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| Howard |
March 26th, 2008 12:21 pm ET We should not have to deal with half truths and misspeak. NAFT, Bosnia, White Water, Monica, Tax Returns, It never ends. Wake up |
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| Gawania |
March 26th, 2008 12:21 pm ET am so disappointed in Hillary a woman contender and how her campaign will be remembered in history. She is 1st woman as a presidential candidate and somehow the way her campaign is run, the way she conducts herself is not what exemplifies womanhood for me (of course this is only my opinion). Her behavior appears unbalanced, and like some spoiled, bullying child. When she is challenged on her years in the white house, it is either none of our business, oh you can never understand (high and mighty) or give me a break (get off my back). **It is not the American publics fault that what was done by her or her husband in the white house is our business, and we will continue to ask**. Whenever she is confronted with her own issues, her response is never to address them but to blame anyone other than herself or husband. Then next immediately she attacks the other candidates as if to say look over here. Well she and no other woman can be proud of this since history is being made. She has brought even the role of a presidential candidate down to some stereotypes woman have strived to overcome for ages. Those stereotype are the witch, the shrew, the gold digger, and the snappish, uptight ticking bomb. Me myself, I would have even preferred the blonde bombshell. |
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| Rod |
March 26th, 2008 12:21 pm ET Carl, face it......you've been making the talk show circuit for at least six months trotting out all your anti Hillary theories and venom. This is just more of the same, and, from the looks of your boring narrative, it's about time you sacked it up and headed for the old folks home. There's a name for folks trying to do what you're doing Carl. It's called "Washed up Has Been" 'Bye Carl. |
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| ann kuminns |
March 26th, 2008 12:21 pm ET Hillary claims that she had been vetted and "crucified" over her life – now the gremlins are coming out. Never one to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but, she has made her principle of telling part of the truth and the rest is what suits her best then. This is the personality that people are supposed to support? The Clintons, from AK through the WH and up to now have shown us that they have no moral fibre; go back to whitewater, firing of travel staff, Paula, Gennifer, Monica, Foster and others, and you see the path of destruction in their wake. They are now intent on doing the same to Obama and many of us are allowing them to suceed. We should find the better part of ourselves, all of us, and stop this destructive couple before we find ourselves in their destructive wake. |
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| Andrea |
March 26th, 2008 12:22 pm ET She is a LIAR! |
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| NObama |
March 26th, 2008 12:22 pm ET So, Messiah Barack is a saint now? They are all politicians. I think Hillary has created somewhat of a bubble around herself as protection from the media. Its not like they haven't beat her up almost continually for 16 yrs. She got my vote in Texas at the primary, as well as at the Obamanista turned scam of a caucus. (Over 3000 complaints made to Tx Dem Party of major irregularities and rule-breaking). GO HILLARY! |
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| vivian |
March 26th, 2008 12:22 pm ET Hillary for President!!!!!!!!!!!100% vote for her.. GO HILLARY |
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| Charles |
March 26th, 2008 12:22 pm ET Kris: Do you know how ridiculous it is for you to find Barack Obama to be racist. You do understand that he is half-white correct? So if he were racist, he would have to be prejudice against himself (or half of him self at least), his mother, his grandparents, etc. It is laughable when people say Barack has injected race into this campaign and that he is racist. It does not benefit him in any shape, form, or fashion to bring up race. It does, however, benefit his opponent to bring up race because by painting him as a racial candidate, his opponent can pander to a large segment of society who has issues with blacks in positions of power. If you listened to his speech in Philadelphia, and actually listened to the words and what the message was, it is clear that he is not about race and racial politics, he is about elevating our dialogue and debate. If anyone has any grounds to talk about race it is Barack, based on his life story and experience. No other politician could have or would have even attempted to do such a thing. Open your eyes. |
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| Just a thought |
March 26th, 2008 12:22 pm ET Just a thought. Yes, she "misspoke," she shouldn't have done it and should have owned it that she did it. That had to be extremely embarrassing to have to admit to embellishment. I see why she defended it. It was too embarrassing to admit you got it wrong. However, yesterday I listened to one of the Colonels that was on the ground in Bosnia during that time. He was very indignant about her comments and stated they had 4000 troops, etc. there to see to her safety. If the security were truly that tight and extreme, then maybe Bosnia was not such the walk in the park that the media and everyone says it is. Again, I agree she shouldn't have done this but maybe we need to really look at the security measures that were put in place before she and Chelsea landed. I know with so many people hating the Clintons, there can never be any justification for her story, but maybe, just maybe, she had reason to feel the danger. Also, where are the security briefings that were made to the military during that time? The press is so quick to disprove her but not one press outlet has verified the security measures, not even the Sainted Carl Bernstein. Again, I know everyone is going to say it's another cover-up by the Clintons but as many people in the press and military that hate the Clintons, surely there is something that gives an accurate description of what measures were taken to ensure their safety. It should give us a better perspective on the actual conditions of Bosnia at the time. True there were no snipers but maybe there was a reason she felt concerned. Oh and if you think I am a Clinton supporter - No. I’m a registered Independent and cannot stand any of the three. I am just sick of the bashing. |
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| Jen |
March 26th, 2008 12:29 pm ET Greg Craig, a foreign policy adviser to Barack Obama who served in President Bill Clinton's administration at the time of the talks, said the "inflated" claim called into question Mrs Clinton's judgement. “But the Clinton White House, while supportive of the idea of expanding children's health, fought the first SCHIP effort, spearheaded by Senators Edward M. Kennedy, Democrat of Massachusetts, and Orrin G. Hatch, Republican of Utah, because of fears that it would derail a bigger budget bill. And several “As Hillary has continued to speak from the protective shell of her own making, and packaged herself for the widest possible consumption, she has misrepresented not just facts but often her essential self." JUST WORDS!!!!!!!... NO ACTION HERE. She is a lying hypocrite. She doesnt deserve to even be working on either end of Pennsylvania Ave. If she were in court, she would have been convicted of purgery a dozen times!!! |
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| No More Clinton, please |
March 26th, 2008 12:29 pm ET The people of Arkansas who want to see the facts have long known that those two will do anything.....ANYTHING....to be elected. They have been on the public dole their entire married life. They are not to be trusted...either one of them. And Bill is actually the more believable. That should tell you something. |
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| Andrew Woods |
March 26th, 2008 12:29 pm ET It is time for the super delegates who are leaders of the Democratic Party to act like leaders and put an end to this campaign. We have had 16 years of divisiveness. We don't need four or eight more. Clinton does not care about the consequences of her comments, so long as they advance her cause. That is not the kind of leader America needs. |
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| G. Morganroth, IL |
March 26th, 2008 12:29 pm ET . . . .For those who continue to choose to be disenlighted, There are Obama 08. |
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| Ray |
March 26th, 2008 12:59 pm ET "Hillary Clinton has many admirable qualities" And what exactly are they? |
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| Stacey, Indianapolis, IN |
March 26th, 2008 12:59 pm ET She lied about Bosnia. Even if one dismisses these are mere exagerations, there is a pattern here and complete lack of self-awareness that should be disturbing. The very things she says make her ready on day one aren't true. |
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| Jeremy, WI |
March 26th, 2008 12:59 pm ET It's time for Hillary and the Clintons to do what they have never done before, and that's put the interests of the people ahead of their own interests. It would take a miracle for her to catch Obama in the delegate count and if she ends up stealing it away from him based on superdelegates, or by any other means, it will not only cause the democrats the white house by splitting the party, but WILL also ruin the party for years to come. She needs to do the HONORABLE thing and step down. |
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| Holly |
March 26th, 2008 12:59 pm ET I found this article fascinating and the responses equally fascinating. For the Cindy whom says it doesn't matter: It does to many of us. As for allxdreamer. This has nothing to do with not wanting a woman in the whitehouse. We just want the right woman whom holds herself up with dignity and respect. In my mind I wish Nancy Pelosi would run. I love the way she carries herself and does not endorse anyone, and only makes comments when she finds someones facts to be incorrect. AS a woman I would love to see a woman in the whitehouse, but I would rather have the right candidate in then just making sure a woman wins. To those that have issues with CNN and their reporting: They publish all the negative aspects about Obama as well including a huge coverage on his pastor. Plus this is a blog that seems to be an opinion article. Why would you blast CNN for an opinion made by one of their writers. This is Anderson Cooper's Blog, not the political ticker. |
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| Taz |
March 26th, 2008 12:59 pm ET Get off her back and start examining the REAL problem, that being the ideologies that Barrack Obama embraces. How can this Country be so naieve to think this man is going to be the " Great Unifer". He embraces left wing ideas that will force an even deeper chasm in this Country. Why does the media continously Praise his every word as though he was some type of " Messiah" THIS MAN IS NO MESSIAH" |
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| David |
March 26th, 2008 12:59 pm ET Let's see . . . eight years of Hillary, then eight years of Jeb, then Chelsea will be old enough to run . . . |
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| Russell |
March 26th, 2008 12:59 pm ET Humpty Dumpty – When I use a word, it means just what I choose it to mean – neither more no less. Alice – The question is, whether you can make words mean so many different things. Humpty Dumpty – The question is: which is to be master. – that's all. |
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| Lorin |
March 26th, 2008 1:00 pm ET I'd like to respond to Cindy's post, if I may. The inherit problem with Hillary Clinton 'embellishing' her roles, stances, and, hell, even her own memory, is that when the premise of a candidate's platform for presidency, such as her own, is completely constructed from her assertions that she is 'ready from day one' and has 'passed the commander-in-chief test', it calls into serious question whether her qualifications are flat out lies. Obama, like many politicians, is selling himself on his roles on a variety of issues. But when Clinton accidently-on-purpose LIES about what she has done to try and distance herself as the most qualified candidate, it's not misstatements, it's called lying. Even 5 year olds know that. She would have been a lot safer has she stuck to what she has done, SLIGHT exaggerations as expected to be included. THIS IS THE ISSUE! She had my respect, but watching these desperate, maniacal tactics is revolting and really has me and ALOT of Americans wondering to what extent she would lie as President and how far her desperation for a Clinton dynasty would bring us closer to transition into ANOTHER failed Republican presidency. GO. OBAMA. |
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| Jim Conley |
March 26th, 2008 1:00 pm ET Ask Clinton about her latest statement "she said she speaks a million words a day" In a 24 hou day with no sleep she would have to speak almost 700 words a minute. She needs to tell the truth |
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| Joy |
March 26th, 2008 1:00 pm ET I find Hilary Clinton to be totally untrustworthy and arrogant. She expects that reporters and the American public would just let her do and say whatever she wants whether it is true or not. It's sad, but it is frightening what she will do and say if she were to become President. Imagine the President of the United States being characterised as a 'congenital liar'. She is completely unscrupulous and dishonest – all the qualities you DON'T want in an American President. |
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| Celia McKoy |
March 26th, 2008 1:00 pm ET Interesting to se the comments from Mrs. Clinton's pastor. Is she now going to repudiate those statements and leave her church? Just goes to show how ridiculous this whole drama is. She needs to stick to truth and real issues and enough with the games. |
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| mary |
March 26th, 2008 1:00 pm ET You are all so unfair to Hillary, Why didn't you write such a negative artical on Obama and his Paster? Myabe you should check Obama's trash bag more carefully,.I am sure you will find more trash on Obama and make sure you will report them and don't close your eyes on them. |
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| justobserve |
March 26th, 2008 1:00 pm ET Oh yeah! Go Hillary! If you believe her lies and spins at this stage, you are as delusional as the Clintons. |
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| Dave M. |
March 26th, 2008 1:00 pm ET Hilary flat out lied. She never had to run from any plane ducking cover from enemy fire. Mispeak would be if she got countries names mixed up. Not totally inventing something out of thin air. |
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| Bill A White of Texas |
March 26th, 2008 1:00 pm ET The bottom line is this: truth matters, being able to tell the truth to oneself is paramount. |
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| Vern |
March 26th, 2008 1:00 pm ET Hillary Lied and that's all there is to say! |
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| Rob North Carolina |
March 26th, 2008 1:00 pm ET How can anyone honestly believe this lie as well as the others in which Hillary has spewed out of her mouth, not be significant? Trustworthy, loyalty, respect of others are not her strongest qualities, with her lies, fake tears, and being a master spin. She deserves an Oscar not the Presidency |
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| Brian |
March 26th, 2008 1:00 pm ET What does it matter if she lies? Well maybe it doesn't. Maybe character means nothing. Maybe honesty means nothing. Maybe the ends do justify the means. So you're saying you don't care about the integrity of the person you elect or the company you keep. Then don't complain that this country is headed in the wrong direction and you need change. What needs changing is your attitude that character doesn't matter. |
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| Pat |
March 26th, 2008 1:00 pm ET I am so confused because both Democratic canidates have flaws. Obama has over passionate supporters but is young and new. Not many known scandals if any at all. Clinton has over passionate supporters and legacy of ommitting the truth and hiding things. Lots of scandals .Lewinsky, Bosnia, Watergate and who knows what else.Plus, a hidden current lawsuit against her. I think we all have to remember we are not voting for Bill Clinton. Its HILLARY CLINTON! Once that is realized Obama( as long as he chooses his advisors carefully )is the clear choice. OBAMA 08! |
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| Tim Scanlan |
March 26th, 2008 1:00 pm ET Telephone in the White House master bedroom at 3:00 AM: RING! RING! Hillary: This is President Clinton, may I help you? Caller: Madam President, this is General Smith. We have just learned that the North Koreans have launched a nuclear attack aimed at New York City, the Iranians have invaded Iraq and the Chinese have demanded that the United States buy back all of our Treasury Bonds! Hillary: Bill, it is for you. |
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| nilo |
March 26th, 2008 1:00 pm ET let's put it this way fellas...if you were going to a bypass-heart surgery who would you prefer to do it...to a surgeon with more experience or to a surgeon just recently graduated and/or passed? think america...it's your call |
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| Carol Levey |
March 26th, 2008 1:00 pm ET I applaud Carl Bernstein for his insightful statement and Anderson Cooper for bringing to light on a daily basis the importance of telling the truth. At the breakfast table this morning, I discussed with my children, ages 8 and 11 (and Hillary Clinton supporters) the important news of the day and that in fact, their candidate had lied about something on several occasions. Interestingly enough, both children had been grounded recently for not telling the truth about something and therefore, this issue was top-of-mind. The eight year-old immediately said ' well if Hillary can lie and not get grounded why should I be grounded for lying?" What is poignant about this statement from the mouth-of-a-babe is that a woman who is also a mother is lying to the American public, and yet seemingly there are no consequences. Now, what shall I tell my children about lying should this candidate actually become President of the United States? I suggest that Mrs. Clinton either be grounded for her lying or face a debate of eight year-olds moderated by Mssrs. Cooper and Bernstein as that would be "Raw Politics" at its finest! |
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| Independent Thinker |
March 26th, 2008 1:00 pm ET Everyone contemplating a choice for the Democratic nominee and posting on this message board should be more thoughtful in your conclusions. Many of you post sound bites fed to you by the media. Several of you have ranted like idiots against one candidate or the other only to expose your initial bias. "Obama is this" and "Hillary that". How many of you have done your own research on the two candidates? How many of you have analyzed the candidates actions and statements independent of media commentary, and made decisions on your own? It's obvious that not many of you have. Prime example of why the Constitution contemplates an electoral college that can elect the President country to what an irractional electorate can come up with. This may be the year that option should be exercised. An objective comparison of the Democratic nominees put Sen. Obama on much firmer ground with respect to the following: honesty, sincerity, forthrightness, ability to unite and inspire, and placing the welfare of his constituents over his own. Unlike most of the opinions individuals have spouted, I will provide clear support for my position. There is no evidence to date that Sen. Obama has been untruthful about Rev. Wright, Resko or Resin, or that he doesn't love his country and countryman. Media reports have done an excellent job shaping the facts to create an fog of questionability about Sen. Obama's so-called scandals, but there is nothing concrete available. Contrast that with repeated accounts of an event in Bosnia that are so far from the scene captured on video and corrobarated by several eye-witnesses. Sen. Obama presented his earmark request records and tax returns. Contrast that with continued delay in the release of Sen. Clinton's information. Sen. Obama has consistently appealed to voters who don't traditionally vote Democrat. Contrast that with Sen. Clinton's appeal to the very narrow demographic of older white women above the age of 50 and historical fued with members of the Republican party. Granted, Sen. Obama has not been in a position to choose to sacrifice himself for the good of the Dem. Party or the American electorate (as we are suffering immensely due to this joke of a primary), but Sen. Clinton has a 5% chance to win the nomination and no way to separate herself from Sen. Obama by the issues. With those facts, she knows her choices are to attack him personally and hope some irrelevant scandal befalls him, or concede with class and dignity for the good of the Dem. Party and the American public. This strategy has and will continue to hurt the Dem. Party in the general election. Yet, she's chosen to "fight on" under the guise of enfranchisement for the remaining States. Further, when Sen. Clinton was the presumed victor of the nomination way back when, the campaign was positive. Sen. Obama played clean politics and still found himself in the lead after reeling of 10 plus primary victories. Then the campaign turned into this circus that is today. We are in the gutter, and you should all ask yourselves why and how we got here? Reasonable people could see this thing clearly. But unreasonable drones, simply lap up the gruel fed to them by the media, particularly if it suits their own pre-disposition. It's a shame. At any rate, this country will ultimately get the President it deserves. Those who choose to make unconsidered decisions based on what others tell them is right or wrong, deserve only to be treated without respect and regard. |
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| Trip |
March 26th, 2008 1:01 pm ET It's called delusion, specifically, in her case "delusions of grandeur". After eight years of this very same symptom, which brought us war, recession, and a collapse of government services such as education, I would vote for anybody with a strong grasp of objectivity and truth at this point. Unfortunately, Hillary displays many of the same character traits as does Bush, albeit wrapped in blue rather than red. But even the best intended ideological leanings will result in disaster without judgement, honest self-awareness, and an open mind on the part of our leader. It is clear that Hillary does not pass this test, and her track record displays a consistent failure of leadership, which, more than experience for the sake of experience, is the essential quality that our nation so desperately craves. |
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| Kim |
March 26th, 2008 1:01 pm ET Sadly, both Democratic presidential candidates lied, misrepresented facts and played dirty politics (also McCain, the Republican nominee as well). What is Whitewater for Clinton is to Rizko for Obama (and the Keating Five for McCain). Obama, too, on a number of occasions, misspoke or lied about passing nuclear waste and immigration reform legislations, about initially not ever hearing Rev Wright's inflammatory speeches, about his stance on NAFTA and withdrawal of troops (his advisors contradicted his remarks on the campaign trail), etc. So, Obama is not any better than Clinton in terms of honesty. Let's just focus on the issues and get America back on the right tract!!! |
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| Katy |
March 26th, 2008 1:01 pm ET The media has done a very poor job again this year and once again it will be the electorate that pays. With all the time to research and vet candidates, the news they play is very biased, inflammatory, and divisive. This does NOT serve the American public well, no matter who your choice of candidate is. It appears from the bulk of the above comments that whoever has architected Hillary Clinton as being "the root of all evil", "congenital liar", running a "scorched earth campaign" has been very successful. I don't think all of this can be attributed to her words and actions. When Obama is the nominee in 3 months, I'm sure we'll begin to get a clearer picture of who he is. Judging from the Michelle Obama comments, the Rev. Wright issue, the most liberal voting record and MoveOn.org endorsement, and now the stories of him co-opting legislation to make it appear he was more legistatively active then his slim record represents I don't think we'll be in for a "good" time either. The Republicans are going to have a field day either way. |
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| Stu |
March 26th, 2008 1:01 pm ET A significant issue in this episode is the certainty with which she originally stated the events. All people can be uncertain about unimportant events over a decade ago. Did I attend a party? Did I speak to you about that? Who first told me something important? That is perfectly understandable. |
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| JT |
March 26th, 2008 1:01 pm ET To use the words of Roger Clemens, she didn't lie, she just misremembered. |
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| James |
March 26th, 2008 1:01 pm ET What's amazing in all this is the amount of women who dillusionally support Hillary even though she's clearly not qualified to be president. Maybe it's because you can identify staying with a person who can be an embarrassment (you talk about Obama with Wright, how about Hillary with Cheater Bill?). Maybe it's because you can identify with lying about your experience at work for personal gain. Maybe it's because you all feel you are due. Maybe it's because you can identify with an irrational woman who cries when 'everyone's ganging up on me'! I mean, if Obama cried like that, the race would be over. If Obama had 18 different psychotic personalities like Hillary, again, over. Make no misstake, I'll cross party lines for War Monger McCain before I give one shred of thought to Hillary! She's unfit and she's psychotic, pathological and evil!!!!! P.S. |
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| neil |
March 26th, 2008 1:01 pm ET It should come as no surprise that she lies. She can't tell the truth about Obama either, she distorts and misrepresents and twists stories to fit her goal. And I WAS a Clinton supporter at one time. Never again!! |
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| eileen hannigan |
March 26th, 2008 1:01 pm ET This is so true. Hillary, after all these years can't resist telling lies and she is so into denial. From Jen Flowers to Monica Lewinsky she was in denial. Her campaign is such a joke. Her reps change the subject when asked a serious question or else they start throwing more mud Sen. Obama's way. The Clintons, I am afraid, are done! No one beleives a word any one of them says. Carl Benstein is so on the money. His words ring so true! |
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| tiger |
March 26th, 2008 1:01 pm ET "What does it matter that she embellished her trip to Bosnia? It isn’t hurting anything! All of them embellish on a lot of things! Why are you all picking on her!? I bet if you searched through Obama’s trash you’d find stuff he lied about! Give it a rest and get back to the real issues PLEASE!! Are you serious when you say what does it matter if she lied about Bosnia? Well, let me tell you what matters, as it was pointed out in this article she has lied about a LOT of stuff ! Stuff that she doesn't even need to lie about and that's a bit scary when you think about this person REPRESENTING the American people. After reading about her record, it's a pretty fair assessment to say that she will at some point (if elected) LIE to the American people to protect herself or Bill or whatever she is lying about. Her response to the latest lie was, sorry, I misspoke, I'm human. Human or not, lying about an incident such as landing in sniper fire and running for your life is a HUGE embellishment of the facts that were captured by CBS news, I bet Katie Couric hated talking about this story, she is a staunch Hillary supporter. And if she is willing to throw the MILITARY under the BUS on a lie while she was first lady; what do you think she will do to the military if she is President?! One thing has become quite evident to me about Hillary, she has NO INTEGRITY just like Bill. |
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| Dave |
March 26th, 2008 1:01 pm ET As a New Yorker I have supported HRC many times, including initially in this race. However Obama continues to impress and HRC continues to digress. Now she's ripping the party apart. Hillary...please go back to being my Senator. Admit you lost fair and square and live to fight another day. Too many Republicans despise you, and the only chance to win was with a mandate from the Dems. I hoped you would get it. You clearly are not. I feel like I did when I asked my family to agree to put my dog down. HRC supporters...it's time we unite behind Obama and move on. Hopefully HRC will learn from this and be the leader we need her to be. |
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| LW57 |
March 26th, 2008 1:01 pm ET Anderson I find it interesting that I have not seen any negative press by you or CNN on Obama concerning the statements he made on your 360 show claiming that he never heard Rev. Wright say those horrible things and two days later Obama does a 360 (no pun intended) and says why yes I did hear him say that. All politicians tend to stretch the truth a bit that is how the game is played so Hillary Clinton stretched the story a bit big deal it happened twelve years ago . The truth is Obama has too many unknowns in his background and has stretched the truth on more than one occasion plus his flip flopping with the Wright controversy will just make it harder for him to win the general election in the fall. We need a commander and chief that shows some moxie when it the economy and international affairs not one who wants to have the American people sit around the camp fire hold hands and sing Cumbiya while our country is going down the tubes. |
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| Rockymo |
March 26th, 2008 1:01 pm ET At the start of this campaign I wanted Hillary but then I started to prefer Obama but would have still supported Hillary if she got the nod. No more-Hillary and the Billary team have displayed a side of them that I thought was only propaganda by the GOP. I don't believe it is and I do not blame the media. While I dislike Bush immesely and dread a Mc Cain presidency I cannot in good conscience vote for a person (and team) who act just like the GOP who they pretend to loath. If she gets the nod I will not vote for her or Mc Cain. I think I will just stay home...like many others who no longer want leaders who are all about ego and put themselves before the good of the country..to win at all costs |
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| Toni |
March 26th, 2008 1:01 pm ET Mr. Bernstein, I applaud you for speaking the truth about Hillary Clinton. Bill Clintons administration was loaded with lies, scandal and nontransparency. Hillary Clintons administration would surely be the same. Barack Obama is such a breath of fresh air. Why would we want to go back and continue another Clinton administration. It's time to bring a new perspective and fresh ideas. I am a 51 year old, white female who voted for Barack Obama in the Iowa caucuses and continue to support him. Thank you. |
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| Willo - Ottawa, ON, Canada |
March 26th, 2008 1:02 pm ET I watched Sen. Clinton's response on Rev. Wright and came to this conclusion. While she says she's responding to a question...I could'n't help it...Was it me or was she not reading from her well choreographed answers... |
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| Karl |
March 26th, 2008 1:02 pm ET The video shows her on the tarmac with her daughter smiling in a dress and no apparent bullet-proof jacket at all!!!!! |
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| Sabina |
March 26th, 2008 1:02 pm ET Hello Carl: I awoke still disturbed by the way the Dems are behaving..it brings out the worse in humans..and yet, NOW is the time for quiet, thoughtful minds. Is it the media that fans the flames to cover each second of each minute of air time? The art of the obvious: Hilary cannot win..it would be a REAL SHAME if she did. Americans would be going backward..at a time when all minds should focus on Peace and Truth. (yes, politics is politics) BUT I think that Senator Obama can* change that! ..or try to. He can handle himself with the Republican McCain, including the Pastor thing. (many agree that the McCain-Bush Team is helping vote her in – because it will be much harder to win against Obama, in November.) I want his clear mind (not an angry, sleep-deprived, foggy, possibly post-menopausal mind [I should know]) to answer the urgent morning, evening and night emergencies. IT IS HE, who has already made history – LOOK at the turn out of first time young people coming into this democratic process. So, how do the American people and the DNC call on the Clinton Senator to "give it up"? I am a woman; I was a hardened feminist. BUT I cannot get over the terrible example Hilary set up for our young women..she STAYED with the abusive husband (a Lying husband) who was continually unfaithful (infidelity is an abuse, especially while in the same house*) Now, she speaks that she would not stay with THAT pastor! ooh, that makes my tummy upset! I hope the Majority insist that their vote was cast – and (although legally even pledged delegates can change their mind at the convention) that Barack Obama will lead us into a healing, globally respected Nation, and a careful* withdrawal of our selfless Troops will happen. IT MUST HAPPEN – for the well-being of our future. Warm Regards, ___________________ My Dad is voting for her! Arrgh! BUT when I asked him if it was really Bill Clinton whom he was voting for – a not a woman – he answered “well of course”. He IS 85, a white male senior citizen and that is the huge part of Hilary’s base..old timers (White, Hispanic, etc.) who vote for what* they typically know; vote on memories of the past) Despite or perhaps in spite of liking BC from the neck up..I would normally* HOPE for a woman President – just not this time, not with this woman. . |
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| Tim |
March 26th, 2008 1:02 pm ET It's funny. The facts are laid out in this article and yet all of the Hillary supporters are doing exactly what she does; distrort reality for her own good and see things through her own lense. You Clinton people think she is a savior. You want her to be president because she is a women, despite the fact that she doesn't have any more "real" experience than Obama, in fact probably less. Being a first lady does not count as experience. You can't say you were a part of all things good and had nothing to do with things that went wrong. She is a pathetic, as are her supporters who can not be objectively. Everything with Hillary is a subjective, emotional reaction. Look at the facts people. See beyond you nose. |
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| Glen |
March 26th, 2008 1:02 pm ET If Hillary Clinton is telling the truth when she said she erred in describing the Bosnia trip due to being sleep deprived, what will she do when she gets "that phone call at 3 a.m.? |
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| mark |
March 26th, 2008 1:02 pm ET Honestly, both are fatally flawed: Hillary and her truth issues and there is no way middle of the road The best the Dems can hope for is a stalemate at the convention and a compromise candidate. |
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| Martha Andrews |
March 26th, 2008 1:02 pm ET After hearing that OBAMA sent a letter (note) to Canadian government telling them, "not to listen to what he says during primary that it's to win the nomination" and knowing that the Republicans (all-mighty–always "right") after all those 8 yrs couldn't find anything to "PIN" on Hillary–then I think they are even. The only questions I have for OBAMA is he prides himself on being "above the old politics" but then tells a government to "not listen to what I say during primary" what else is he hiding? I think we have to choose (as normal lately) the lesser of two evils". I am really sick of no news of anywhere else in the world or this country except the PRIMARY–fed up and really tired of it! The Democrats are giving the "right" the ammunition for the main race against the Democrats in NOV. and may well cause this country to suffer another President that only cares for BIG BUSINESS and people earning over $200K . What horror that this great country can't come up with another Kennedy or statesman has a high IQ and doesn't owe his career to come LOBBY! Where are the GREAT Americans? OH–they aren't cute in jeans and/or aren't so photogenic so Americans won't vote for them. That's the only reason I can fathom that they voted for Bush twice!??? |
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| LeAnn |
March 26th, 2008 1:02 pm ET I am so glad that members of the media are finally taking Hillary to task on her so called "experience". She was first lady, not the president. She didn't negoitiate with foreign leaders, she attended women's conferences. |
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| Larry |
March 26th, 2008 1:02 pm ET Enough, I've tried to stay with Hillary, but now longer the staw has been broken, like many super delegates, this one voter is going with Obama! |
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| Thomas Eatmon |
March 26th, 2008 1:02 pm ET I get so tried of reading, if Hillary don't win the nomination than I will |
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| Peachy Keen |
March 26th, 2008 1:02 pm ET Thank goodness, it seems people are finally realizing the truth about Hillary, she is as dishonest as they come. Hmmm, who does that remind us of, oh yea, eight years of Bill and eight years of Georgie. Go Barack! |
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| Peg Welch |
March 26th, 2008 1:02 pm ET I'm sick of it all! Both candidates are flawed, which confirms they are human beings, right? We need for the super delegates to come in and end this thing way before JUNE. We Dems are "eating our own" by continuing in this daily, hourly, utube, TV, newspaper, internet negative, divisive political conversation. |
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| Antonio |
March 26th, 2008 1:02 pm ET I used to support Hillary over Obama. That is until I started paying attention. The more a saw, heard, read, the LESS I liked her. My final conclusion is that she is just a regular, washed out, sophomoric polititian that's sole popularity is based on her last name and that she is a woman. She has no experience, no candor, no judgement. Ready on day 1? Phonecall at 3AM? She already received that call, in the middle of the day, with plenty of time to think (not day 1), with a good night's rest, with the oportunity to review intelligence reports, and she still failed! Why I like Obama now? He demonstrates leadership. He is refreshing and speaks to Americans like ADULTS. He seems to have the courage to shake this corrupt, rusted govt. Haven't you noticed that politicians (and Hillary) speak as if they were speaking to 10 year olds? Your argument that the media is unfair to Hillary is the same argument that Republicans make about them too...maybe is because Republican just give the media more dirt to report about, maybe Hillary just isn't as good as OBAMA.... right, right, maybe the media has a secret conspiracy organized with the Obama campaign. |
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| Jon |
March 26th, 2008 1:02 pm ET Difficult Relationship with the truth? We used to call such a person a LIAR. Jon in Texas |
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| nowlin w.wells |
March 26th, 2008 1:03 pm ET Hillary should comment on the picture of Bill and Rev.Wright. She should |
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| Rob North Carolina |
March 26th, 2008 1:03 pm ET How can anyone honestly believe this lie as well as the others in which Hillary has spewed out of her mouth, not be significant? Trustworthy, loyalty, respect of others are not her strongest qualities, with her lies, fake tears, and being a master of spin. She deserves an Oscar not the Presidency |
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| E. McLeod |
March 26th, 2008 1:03 pm ET It's amusing to me that the current administration gets away with some of the most repulsive and damaging lies in the history of our country. Yet, Hillary lies about sniper shots and it's front page news. Go American Media! |
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| Jimmy O |
March 26th, 2008 1:03 pm ET Please don't say anything bad about Hillary. Please vote the Clintons for a third term. It is their birth right, they deserve it. We have to allow the Bushes and Clintons to continue to rule us, that is our DESTINY, we do not deserve better. After Hillary 08, Jeb Bush 2016, after Jeb Bush, Roger Clinton 2024, after Roger Clinton, George Bush Jr 2032 (Jeb's son), after George Bush Jr, the person we have been waiting for, Chelsea 2040! Go Hillary.. Hillary for President. She brought peace to the Northern Ireland, She fought back snipers in Bosnia whilst serving as a combat pilot in the airforce/firstlady. She has passed the "COMMANDER-in-CHIEF" threshold. READY ON DAY ONE!! |
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| W |
March 26th, 2008 1:03 pm ET I am tired of the bashing on Clinton as well. Obama has had an easier road through the media throughout this whole campaign and the one time there is a controversary, heaven forbid,about him the media tries to spin it and bash Hillary more. Why do people HATE her so much? Do they hate her becasue of BIll? Stop hating!!!! move on and take care of the things that you cna control in your own life... |
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| JK from Ohio |
March 26th, 2008 1:03 pm ET She lied until she got caught, then she "misspoke". She has the same 'I deserve this' power hungry look in her eyes that Bush did, and look where it has taken us. Obama should just ignore Hillary for the remaining months of the campaign and concentrate on communicating solutions to the big issues. Ignoring her constant cackling would deflate the Clinton tag team. |
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| Reg from Philly |
March 26th, 2008 1:03 pm ET Its really very simple. You have to trust your leaders. And we can not trust Hillary any more. Just like we can't trust Bush. Obama stands for change – and thats what we all need – a break from the past. An echo of her own words "its time to step down." |
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| Tim V |
March 26th, 2008 1:03 pm ET Not only do I consider Hillary's 'mis-statements' to be outright lies to prop up her assertions that she has substantial foreign policy experience. I found her response to this controversy to be glib and dismissive in a manner that is much more telling of her character or lack thereof. Obama will win the nomination because he gives so many people hope of the America dream of. I have voted Republican across the board for 20 plus years. Yet now find myself jumping the isle at the risk of future policy departures that are counter to many of my base ideological views(taxes, social programs, etc.) I choose to do this because I still am a believer in the union we 'might' become. To me, Hillary represents the sickness within our political system that 'has' become the status quo. |
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| Kathy in Texas |
March 26th, 2008 1:03 pm ET I am surprised by how polarized the Clinton and Obama supporters are becoming. What I see is that the people who have already made their minds up are finding ways to blame the other side when anything bad happens to their candidate. For either candidate to get elected they have to be able to withstand whatever comes their way. The Republicans will be far worse than what we have seen so far. Everyone please take a deep breath and please stop threatening to vote for McCain. I admire him but I know that Karl Rove is advising him. His tricks will be far dirtier than anything we have seen so far. I am for Obama and work hard not to say anything bad about Hillary. |
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| chris |
March 26th, 2008 1:03 pm ET CHARACTER IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE HERE. ISN'T THAT WHAT WE DISLIKE ABOUT BUSH..THAT HE WASN'T HONEST ABOUT THE WAR? YET HERE SO MANY DEFEND HILLARY BEING DISHONEST? COM'ON FOLKS..AT LEAST BE CONSISTANT. |
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| beans in Belize C.A |
March 26th, 2008 1:03 pm ET It is so amazing after Hillary is caught lieing, you still have so many people defending her lie. What is wrong with those poeple? And what is wrong with her "misspoke"? If she did not remembered anything about the trip, what happened to the CLINTON LIBRARY do some research!!! And stop misleading the people. |
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| T. Kress (Maryland) |
March 26th, 2008 1:04 pm ET Well written, its time people in this country started realizing just what type of person and potential leader they are supporting. The last thing this country needs right now is Hillary Clinton in the white house. |
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| qin |
March 26th, 2008 1:04 pm ET I like the Chinese way of doing things, and i like what Obama and his suppoters are saying, that Hillary should withdraw from the race. |
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| Jean, CANADA |
March 26th, 2008 1:04 pm ET Please do NOT let thisget spun into her just "Mispeaking"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SHE FLAT OUT LIED TO NOT ONLY THE AMERICAN PEOPLE BUT THE WORLD!!!! How the hell would you forget if you were shot at.....EVER IN YOUR LIFETIME ??????!!!!!! CNN please do not let this story get dropped...we are not asking you to take sides but let's get real....Hillary is most certainly ripping the democrats assunder...SHE cannot tell the truth and when she is confronted with the actual truth she goes into denial mode or just dismisses it as if it were inconsequential. Hillary.....you ARE NOT entitilled to this nomination or to the highest level in your goverment, which is the Presidency... You have been vetted, weighed and now judged...YOU'RE A LIAR...PERIOD!!!! OBAMA 08/12...THE TRUTH PERSONIFIED. |
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| Tim from Eugene OR. |
March 26th, 2008 1:04 pm ET You know if you read all these blogs, you will see a pattern of Hillary supporters that sound like Carl Rove wrote their comments for them. I hear a lot of closet bigots. Why all are so mad about a lier being called out because she is caught doing the opposite of what she claimed on video is a mystery to me! Obama never called her out on this, the media did, and wouldn't have been able to but for the words she spoke on her own, without anyone to blame but her self. She has had to sling mud to even stay in the race. Because she was feeling so entitled she took for granted she would be crowned the dem. nominee, so she blew it and didn't have a back up plan. Now she dosn't care if she blows the election for herself and Obama. Go ahead you dummies that say you will vote republican if she dosn't win the nomination and you will have the supreme court you deserve for years. I am starting to really dislike Hillary, but will hold my nose and vote for her if she manages to steal this election because I still care more for this countrys future than my candidate. One thing you can't say about Obama is that he spends time praising the McWar candidate. |
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| Todd |
March 26th, 2008 1:04 pm ET Hillary's claim to have been under sniper fire is alarming. The video evidence to the contrary makes it look like a fabrication intended to elevate others' opinion of her, and honesty is the most important quality in a candidate. I don't blame her for not admitting she made it up (as I think she did), but her claim to have misspoken is unbeleivable. I think Mccain misspoke when he said Al Qaida was being trained in Iran - he got a couple words mixed up. But Hillary spun a story that was essentially contrary to what happened IN HER OWN LIFE: 'I said we rushed heads-down to our car under sniper fire, but what I meant to say is that we walked across the tarmac, met with some kids, and had lunch.' And it's not like she confused that trip with all those other times she was under sniper fire. And I don't buy the argument that she can't be expected to remember what happened after so many years - people tend to remember being in mortal danger very well. In any case, she would get creamed by Mccain, who'd tell her all about worrying about snipers the last time he landed in Vietnam. Obama is the one for me. |
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| rob |
March 26th, 2008 1:04 pm ET Cindy, the problem is that she flat out lied. She didn't just mis speak. She went on to tell a story that was not true. When she was called on it, she tried to cover it up with yet another lie. Sounds a lot like the "leader" we have now. Besides, even if it were true, that would mean that she knowingly and willingly brought her 16 year old daughter into a war zone. Doesn't that constitute child endangerment at the very least? Yep, she really cares about the children alright. Using her own as a human shield. Fortunately, that isn't the case. Her daughter wasn't in any danger. She just has liars for parents. |
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| Brad |
March 26th, 2008 1:04 pm ET Cindy, What does it matter that she embellished her trip to Bosnia? She is a candidate for the President of the United States! Her past actions are the best precedent for her future actions. She has proven time and time again that she will bend the truth, that she will say whatever sounds best to her current audience. There is no room in the White House for someone whose policy is saying whatever they think people want to hear. |
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| Bobby |
March 26th, 2008 1:05 pm ET Hillary's pro's are greater then her con's??? I'll call your bluff, what has she done that is so outstanding? Lied about Whitewater, withheld records/documents, claims she did so much for our country on foreign trips with her, then husband president Bill, when in fact, acccording to the press, all she did was entertain the foreign leaders wives while "over hormoned Bill" was doing the actual diplomacy work, it's past time the "women" stopped standing up for this lying poor excuse for a woman and voted for a president, not a sex, same with the colored people and their voing for race, thanks to those two classes we let go the only chance of having "good president candidates, Huckabee and Romney, shame should be all around you people. |
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| adamstt |
March 26th, 2008 1:05 pm ET Liar Liar, Pants on Fire. |
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| Nadeem |
March 26th, 2008 1:05 pm ET Rev. Wright came to Bill Clintons defense when he was in trouble with Monica. When the shoe was on the other foot, the Clintons throw Rev. Wright under the bus. Shame! |
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| L. Borgelin |
March 26th, 2008 1:05 pm ET While all of us have, at one point or another, told stories that shade the truth, it is troublesome that Hillary Clinton has invented entirely new memories to replace her "real" ones. This implies that she is not only not able to distinguish between absolute factual reality and fantasy, but that she is willing to make calculated public statements that blur this distinction. I believe that this calls into question how she ethically differs from our current decider-in-chief, whose "truth" goalposts have shifted several times over the course of his administration. To be totally fair, she might have mis-remembered the Bosnian events, but if that was the case why did her campaign not vet it. That is what campaigns do and surely SOMEONE fell down on the job. Lastly, if this was a case of sniperfire, why would Clinton's teenage daughter have been on the trip? Who takes their minor-aged only child to a real warzone? Why would the military have risked landing and killing the first lady and child? etc, etc, etc...her story seems less plausible the more I think about it... Good luck to you Senator Clinton. |
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| HARRI |
March 26th, 2008 1:05 pm ET REV. WRIGHT SHOULD OF BEEN PREACHING LOVE NOT HATE. IT IS UNFORGIVEABLE WHAT HE SAID AND DID. NO TRUE AMERICAN SHOULD PUT UP WITH THIS. I LOVE MY COUNTRY AND RESPECT IT. THIS MATTER SHOULD NOT BE DROPPED. AS FAR AS HILLARY CLINTON SHE CAN STAY IN AS LONG AS SHE WANTS. THIS IS AMERICA. BUT IF I WAS HILLARY I WOULD PULL OUT AND SAY FORGET THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. IN FACT I ENCOURAGE HER TO START ANOTHER PARTY. THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY TURNED THEIR BACK ON THE CLINTON FAMILY. THIS FAMILY HAS DONE SO MUCH FOR OUR COUNTRY |
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| Disgusted |
March 26th, 2008 1:05 pm ET Bravo!..Hillary has lied regarding sd many things, such as Bosnia, Ireland, and being against NAFTA has back to bite her time and timeagain. She is incapable of being truthful. Her continued kitchen sink strategy will prove the undoing of the Democratic Party. This campaign has come down to snide remarks and lies. Wake up everyone, if she is the candidate and eventual president, who will she blame for answering that red phone when she won't take responsibility for her own comments or actions! |
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| Eric |
March 26th, 2008 1:05 pm ET Well this is an issue, If we can't trust what she's saying why would we vote for her? Also were not picking on her. Its not like Barack Obama hasn't had any bad press, its just that Hilary's shines through. Would you trust some one who doesn't prepare for a speech and "lie" about past events. Or some one who doesn't were a flag pin, or "Hussein" Obama? There both being attacked, but Obama's character is still intact. As far as we know Hilary was indeed trying to make herself look better, but either way she needs to prepare for her speeches in a better way from now on to make sure this kind of thing never happens again. |
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| enuff Hillary in PA |
March 26th, 2008 1:05 pm ET Thank you, enuff in SD – I had enough of Hillary when she voted for the war and defended her comments on the floor of the senate using the strong rhetoric right out of the Cheney arguments for the war! She puts her own self-interests in front of the country's interests – just look at the way she's run her campaign! I've had enough of Hillary and divisive politicians!! Enough Hillary in PA!!! |
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| Aaron R |
March 26th, 2008 1:05 pm ET I think it's funny that so many people are posting messages saying that CNN is anti-Hillary. Isn't CNN known as the "Clinton News Network"? If I didn't know I was on the CNN website, I would swear I was reading this on FOX NEWS!! McCain '08!! |
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| suki |
March 26th, 2008 1:05 pm ET This is why I will vote for Obama – Clinton is a liar – there is nothing more to say |
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| Mary Lou |
March 26th, 2008 1:05 pm ET With all the things that Hillary has said over the years, and with each statement examined under a microscope and turned inside our, including her personal life being subjected to over the top prying from a rabid press and ugly republican spin machine, you Clinton bashers catch her in a few exaggerations and misstatements ( what novel concepts - exaggerations or misstatements in politics!!) and label her a pathological liar – |
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| r cameron |
March 26th, 2008 1:06 pm ET Why would the people of the US, particularly the democratic party, support such an obvious, petty liar, who will clearly say ANYTHING to get elected. What makes you all so sure she didnt Coach Bill to do all his lying? Do birds of a feather not stick together? |
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| Mandy |
March 26th, 2008 1:06 pm ET No, Obama is not a saint. Not in any way. He has made it quite clear that he is human and made many mistakes. He is however, honest and open about those mistakes. I'd rather have someone who screws up and then says "You know what, I just messed up royally" than someone who makes a huge mistake (Iraq anyone?) and denies it was the wrong thing to do over and over and over again. Sound familiar? Hillary? |
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| Jerry from Oregon |
March 26th, 2008 1:06 pm ET Hillary's selective interpretation of her past does matter. she has said herself that all people have to judge the candidates on are their records and what they've said. Well, she's shown that you cannot trust what she's said and her record is either a mystery or equivocal. even when she is caught in a lie as with the Bosnia thing, she comes out and says she 'mis-spoke'. let's get real hear, admit you embellished it and apologize for doing so, but take full credit for the successful mission, which no one denies. Look at how Obama handles a scandal; as with his overly-zealous minister. Head on, he comes out and gives a VERY good speech on the subject, repeatedly saying that the controversial soundbites from his former pastor's 30 year career were wrong, explaining where that kind of incorrect thinking comes from, and offers a path for everyone to learn and grow from the controversy. This is what we want and need in a President. Someone who will take the high road and confront issues head on rather than let them fester, distracting this country from the important issues. |
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| tim |
March 26th, 2008 1:06 pm ET Night and day this guy spouts his misery about Mrs. Clinton. |
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| emeka onyekaba |
March 26th, 2008 1:06 pm ET i am not good at taking sides in arguments but in this case i think both candidates should not forget that they are members of a party that they should be a little more civil in their quest to clinch the ticket,i want to call on the clinton's camp to tone down a little because at the rate at which they are going they would arm the republicians in the fall to win the general election.both candidates have the duty of persuading their supporters to vote for whomever clinches the nomination cos their supporters are really divided!i love both of you |
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| Jo |
March 26th, 2008 1:06 pm ET Obama has embellished his whole career. He wrote memoirs in his mid-30s, for God's sake, and when his books came out, there were the little tempests in a tea cup regarding the "poetic license" he took with the facts in his stories. Why not go back and look at his work again, and see how the facts are borne out? Do you really think she told this as a lie? She would have to be a complete idiot to think she wouldn't get caught in a lie on videotape, and she is not an idiot. I will write this off to campaign fatigue and a cloudy recollection of the facts. Forgiveable in my book. |
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| Dave |
March 26th, 2008 1:06 pm ET Hillary should write down on a piece of paper everything she is going to say publicly before saying it- Her worse enemy are her own words- |
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| Dennis-Cleveland, Oh |
March 26th, 2008 1:07 pm ET Wake Up America! Enough with "political correctness". It is not a "misspeak" 'exaggeration" "I'm only human" "it was years ago". It was a flagrant, outright, deceitful attempt by Hillary, not one of her staff, nor the media, no, it was Hillary, no less than three times on this particular occasion, to blatantly attach "foreign policy experience" or "courage""resolve" or any other "positive" attributes one may care to attach to her. And it is not simply a politician "embellishing" their photo op public persona. It was an outright lie. Caught in the truth of a camera lens. Blatant. Flagrant. How many more is she going to be allowed? From Whitewater to today, her record is anything but "misspeak". One more question, can anyone show me proof of her holding any kind of government issued security clearance during her time as First Lady? I'd like to know how she has "Foreign Policy" experience without one, acting as a duly empowered representative of our government, qualified at the least in part with some kind of clearance allowing access to what must have been current, relevant, and necessary information concurrent with those issues she purportedly participated in at the time? Or is this government in general, no matter who occupies the White House, so disfunctional, that now First Ladies are at the forefront of performing those duties which are supposed to be the responsibilites of the State Department? Hillary, you got caught in a lie. Own up to it. Admit you lied. Admit you exagerrated. Show what integrity you have. Oh, and Bill, your wife did get caught in a lie. You know what that experience is like, do you not? And I have absolutely no fear of my nose and its health Bill. Not from you. And Bill, what kind of man, let alone President, would allow his wife, and child, to enter what your wife said (lied) was such a dangerous location to travel to where a President would not dare to go? Anyone who was there knows there wasn't anyone with so much as a spitball within miles of Hillary. |
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| Peter Naisbitt |
March 26th, 2008 1:07 pm ET Why do so many attack our politicians on a personal basis? Is Hilliary the first to have a spouse cheat on her or Obama the first to be tarred with the same brush as his supporters? Can we not have a debate on the issues? Can we not have analysis of what each candidate has done on the floor of the house? Let me see what each has voted for and why...then we can decide... |
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| Paul |
March 26th, 2008 1:07 pm ET Lesson to Hil: Misspeaking: I was 28 the first time I moved to New York (when the truth is, I was 27). Lying: I was shot at the first time I visited New York (when I wasn't shot at). Do we really want another Clinton? REALLY? Obama '08 – Don't let Clinton kill the Party. |
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| EMJordan |
March 26th, 2008 1:07 pm ET Maybe some americans have on BLINDERS and ear plugs on, you SEE NO EVIL AND HEAR NO EVIL.....HILLARY CLINTON IS NOTHING LESS THAN EVIL AND PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT HER ARE JUST AS EVIL......... WHEN WILL AMERICANS REALIZE THAT SHE HAS STAYED WITH BILL FOR HER OWN POLITICAL REASONS. SHE IS SO READY TO RUN THE WHITE HOUSE FROM DAY ONE WHEN SHE CAN'T RUN HER OWN HOUSE AND IF SHE IS SO "TOUGH" WHY DIDN'T SHE DO ANYTHING WHEN IT CAME TO MONICA WHO WAS REALLY THE VICTIM...... LETS NOT FORGET THEY ALSO HAVE A YOUNG DAUGHTER WHAT IF IT HAD BEEN HER.....SHAME ON THOSE SELFISH LYING,CHEATING,POWER HUNGRY PEOPLE. LETS NOT ALSO FORGET THAT SHE IS RUNNING FOR THE PRESIDENT OF UNITED STATES AS A (WOMAN) IS HER CHOICE THAT DOES NOT MAKE HER EXCUSEABLE THIS IS A COMPETITION SO SHE HAS TO ROLL WITH THE PUNCHES.....I'M PRETTY SURE BILL CAN SHOW HER HOW TO DO THAT VERY WELL.............I AM ASHAMED OF HER TALKING ABOUT SHE IS A "STRONG" WOMAM I AM SURE THERE ARE MANY WOMEN WITH NO EXPERIENCE CAN DO A BETTER JOB....AND THOSE OF YOU LIVING IN THAT GLASS HOUSE LETS NOT THROW STONES I AM SURE WE ALL HAVE SOMETHING THAT WE ARE NOT PROUD OF DOING..................... |
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| Brian from Fort Mill, S.C. |
March 26th, 2008 1:07 pm ET Hillary didn't just say it once. She repeated it. She claims that she is thoroughly vetted. This was a stupid lie, because it served no purpose. If I happened to be shot at by the enemy, would that make me a foreign policy expert? Of course not! It's bad enough to be dishonest. To be fair, both Hillary and Obama have been dishonest. But to lie about being shot at by snipers, when your teenage daughter is with you, is just plain stupid. |
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| Ed |
March 26th, 2008 1:07 pm ET Hillary, like Bill, is a liar. There is no reason to get fancy when stating what she does. She is part of a generation that believes in situational ethics and that there are no consequences for acting dishonestly. |
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| Lilibeth |
March 26th, 2008 1:07 pm ET Carl Bernstein, why won't you post this? Lilibeth |
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| lulu68 |
March 26th, 2008 1:07 pm ET #1 Hillary No Obama |
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| Adam |
March 26th, 2008 1:07 pm ET I cannot tell you how upsetting it is seeing people excuse wrong doing. I guess 8 years of Bush has made us think that no one needs to be responsible for their actions. A lot of the people point to Obama when asked about Clinton's lies (As if he orchestrated them or something) but we have seen repetitively in this protracted campaign that he at least comes out and addresses the situation. He addressed the situation with his pastor head on instead of claiming to "mispeak". This especially noteworthy when you view the tape outside of the FoxNews lens and see the comments in context. So many say we all have blemishes and it what makes us human. Clinton and Obama both have their blemishes, the difference is Clinton lies and explains them away while Obama addresses them. Regardless of who you support, please at least demand some responsibility in your leaders. We have seen what happens when the American people write a free pass to a President... let's not make excuses for them and demand that they own up for all their actions, good and bad. |
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| S Stewart |
March 26th, 2008 1:07 pm ET Rev Wright is old news from last week that Billary, could have commented on at that time. I find it extremely ironic that she would take the time to comment on it now. I find it almost laughable that she, woud state, "IF HE WERE MY PASTOR I WOULD HAVE LEFT THAT CHURCH" That is an easy comment to make especially since Sen Clinton does not have a church that she frequents, on a regular. That is if I am to believe she attends a church service at all. How quickly we forgot HER husband's play on words, "I DID NOT HAVE SEX WITH THAT WOMAN", "I DID NOT INHALE" the fact still remains when you embellish the truth, it is still a lie and therefore will affect your creditablity. While I admired her as a first lady, she is just as lacking in experience. I wish that we could get back to the basics of why I should pick either OBAMA OR CLINTON. instead of all this who shot John. Although I am a democratic if they don't get back to the issues at hand, that include the betterment of this country I may just have to look into MCCain |
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| June, Texas |
March 26th, 2008 1:07 pm ET So, okay. Where are we? Draft Al Gore? |
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| K. Harrison |
March 26th, 2008 1:08 pm ET As a Democrat, I am ready for the mud slinging to end for us to have a united party. This will not happen until Hillary drops out of the race and endorses Obama. Hillary knows her days are numbered which is why she is now jumping on the "Rev. Wright is a racist" bandwagon. As an African American who has attending hundreds of Sunday and mid-week services, you are not going to remember every sermon that is delivered from your minister, nor are you going to agree with every word that comes from his mouth. You take what you can apply to your life and you leave behind what you disagree with – its as simple as that. K. Harrison |
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| B |
March 26th, 2008 1:08 pm ET Good Lord people.....quit acting like kindergarteners and take a look at the big picture here. Aside from all of this nonsense that everyone is focusing on, both Obama and Clinton are promising the same things!!!!! I want Hillary, but if she doesn't get the nom., I'm voting for Obama. You all need to get over yourselves before McCain ends up in the White House and everything that is wrong with the country now stays exactly the same for at least 4 more years! And if everyone keeps this up, that's what is going to happen. And then you're all going to be kicking yourselves down the road....just as the people who voted for Bush are now. |
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| Richard Miller |
March 26th, 2008 1:08 pm ET Folks, |
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| C. Kutner |
March 26th, 2008 1:08 pm ET Mrs. Clinton needs to step back from herself and look at how she sounds and appears to others. I had no preconceived idea about her. Her campaign is amazing and very sad. One day she is calm, the next day she is livid. She tells Mr. Obama to be "ashamed" of himself and then she has the vivid imagination that she was in danger when she really wasn't. She is demonstrating with her irratic behavior the very thing people use when describing women's behavior. She is not consistent and it is apparent that she will say anything to win the nomination. One can blame the "press" as that is easy to do; however, those videos of her are not fabricated. It is sad to see how she does not care about the Democratic Party. She should be ashamed. |
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| Spitzer #9 |
March 26th, 2008 1:08 pm ET Bill & Hill are chronic liars and back stabbers. Cut the fake smile and put an end to the candidacy ASAP before more of the filth will be expossed. They CAN NOT be trusted....NO WAY!!!! |
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| kerry d |
March 26th, 2008 1:08 pm ET oh my. it is amazing how the supporters, almost worshippers, of bill and hillary can see the senators words as a mere mix-up. she knew she did not come under fire in bosnia and have to run for cover. that is something that would leave an indelible mark on a person.. if she were to be psycho-analyzed in depth, i fear we would find she has very deep-seated problems that would surely prevent her from being a capable leader of the free world. sad, so very sad. i do not think i would even want her to be my children's college professor. |
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| Steve Ford |
March 26th, 2008 1:08 pm ET Hill-A-Bee Clinton cannot stop creating her own reality. It's that simple. If you're behind in every vote category...offer the leader the Vice Presidency! If you don't have the numbers...stage a "Re-Do" or "Re-Vote"! If you don't have any real experience...make some up! Arriving in Bosnia under heavy sniper fire sounds so much better than reality. If your husband cheats on you and gets impeached...Ignore, so long as he swears he'll help you get elected president by any means necessary! There's actual REALITY...and then there's CLINTON REALITY. I think the Webster dictionary staff should add the following word to their next edition: "HILL-STORY" As opposed to the unedited, unrevised version of events. |
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| I. Endeavor |
March 26th, 2008 1:08 pm ET Saying that a sniper's bullet whizzed right by your head when it missed you by a mile...that's embellishment. Saying that there was sniper fire when there was none is plain old makin' stuff up. Makin' stuff up is commonly known as lying. Change R Not Us. |
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| Jo |
March 26th, 2008 1:08 pm ET All the Obama people are quick to forgive his little misstatements. "I never knew what Rev. Wright said....I wasn't in the pew." I think that is a whole lot more serious. |
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| Mona, CA |
March 26th, 2008 1:08 pm ET I guess lying about attending church is not a big deal – hey it's a SIN to lie and especially about attending church – but hey -it's Obama – the chosen child so who cares. Reverend Wright is cancelling engagements left and right – let's keep a low profile like we tried when we announced our candidacy – Transparency on Obama's part – that's a laugh – where's his state senate returns – HOW did he buy that house? Resko – only 80,000 oh sorry only 250,000 – but I gave it away so it doesn't count – GIVE US A BREAK! Clinton '08 – we want solutions – Obama is so busy vacationing and not saying anything specific while the economic situation in the US worsens each day. Too bad he didn't get his mortgage from a subprime lender maybe then he'd do something. |
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| Mike |
March 26th, 2008 1:08 pm ET What pains me more is her arrogance in deceit. Just hope decent Americans would put a stop to her thrash of deceitfulness. I |
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| bill |
March 26th, 2008 1:08 pm ET I agree with those who say Hillary has more experience than Obama. She has had years perfecting her so called truth telling and tall tale telling, and one must admitt, she has the "I made a mistake" statement down to a T. She is an excellent example of I did, I thought I did, I did not, I will, I meant to I will, I said that. You get the point. She DOES have more experience. Just not the kind I am trust or vote for. |
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| Dave |
March 26th, 2008 1:08 pm ET I only have but one simple comment that I believe everyone should ponder regarding the recent “misstatement: by Sen. Clinton about her trip to Bosnia. Didn’t our current president have vivid recurrences about experiencing chaos and sites of “Weapons of Mass Destruction”in Iraq, which he sold to the American people, to convince us that WAR was inevitable? Here it is, we ate up that story about Hillary and her action packed Rambo’ish arrival in Bosnia, in which she reflected back on, in at least three occasions THAT NEVER HAPPENED. Then tries to explain herself by claiming “human error”!? (Then laughs it off like it was really normal) Ok- Maybe I can see human error if she actually experienced something similar like her story however nothing even remotely close, to her story, ever happened. Maybe it’s me- but I don’t want someone that delusional in office. What if she was in office, as our president, and was experiencing these delusional stories just as the one she told, THAT NEVER HAPPENED. |
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| Carolyn |
March 26th, 2008 1:08 pm ET Hillary talks about Obama had a choice to leave his pastor. Well, she made a choice to stay will Bill even though he LIED to the USA about his affair with Monica. |
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| Phil |
March 26th, 2008 1:09 pm ET Three months ago, though an Obama supporter, I would have supported a fair, honest Hillary nomination. No more. Recent events have underscored the dubious persona of Bill and the judgement of Hillary. Can we draft Gore with Obama as his running mate? |
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| Tim |
March 26th, 2008 1:09 pm ET It is time the voters of this country put the slime-ball Clinton political machine to bed for good. Hillary represents everything that is wrong with our political system today. |
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| teewoods |
March 26th, 2008 1:09 pm ET This whole thing is getting real sick. Let's establish a "STOP THE NONSENSE" campaign. Clinton is like a little kid hanging on to a glimmer of hope that she will get her ice cream cone when mom has already told her no. She won't let go of it and will even lie, cheat, and steal her way to the White House. It's time for the Clintons to move on and ride off into the sunset of their choice. My guess is they will be doing that separately after this race is over. Obama has showed maturity in his responses to Rev. Wright, leadership in his "Union Speech" (not race speech as CNN likes to refer to it), and a vision for where he feels America should be in the very near and distant future. Step aside Hillary and let someone who will not "say or do anything to get elected" be the nominee. |
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| Al in Dallas |
March 26th, 2008 1:09 pm ET Hillary Clinton is a pathological liar. We DO NOT need another liar to take the place of the once we currently have. |
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| tim |
March 26th, 2008 1:09 pm ET Taz on Obama- "Why does the media continously Praise his every word as though he was some type of ” Messiah” THIS MAN IS NO MESSIAH”" ...maybe because his every word isn't a lie. He was praised on his race speach because its so rare that a politician will have an honest dialogue on a controversial issue. Usually they're too busy being politically correct, pandering for votes, or lying about what they have to offer. |
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| Calvin |
March 26th, 2008 1:09 pm ET Cindy, I am a staunch supporter of Hillary Clinton, but she didn't embellish, she out and out lied. Don't make excuses for her, make her be honest. |
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| Rob |
March 26th, 2008 1:09 pm ET The press has such double standards.. its not even funny.. I do not want to defend Hillary but why Why did the press not run and re-run clips when Obama mis speaks. On his Pastor controversy, on Friday he was all over TV saying that, he never heard anytconterversial comments. On monday in his speech, he claimed that he had heard some controversial words from the pastor. The press choose to give him a free pass. They were so enamored by his "race" speech... On rezko, he said that he has received 100k, then 150k and then went to 250k.. The press didn't dig into it.. On Nafta ( one thing to American people and another to Canada)... the press let it go and hillary's campaign had to bring it up.. ofcourse they were vilified for it... On Iraq, Obama said he will withdraw in 16 months and he even went onto criticize the fact that Hillary did not have a date in mind.... then he changed his stance and now he says he will get input from commanders on the ground... Ofcourse his advisor, Samatha Fox told BBC totally different things... He has exaggerated his resume by claiming he passed legislation, claims that were refuted by others.. MY POINT IS: WHY DOUBLE STANDARDS... point out facts for both candidates and let the public decide....i resent the fact that the media is electing the President for us. |
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| Smarter than the Clinton Supporters |
March 26th, 2008 1:09 pm ET Did you all see the lecture from Chelsea? A student asked if she thinks Monica Lewinsky hurt her mother's reputation and just like her mother, she gave some BS and then said, "I don't think that's any of your busniess." For those who want to congradulate her on her response, shame on you. That is a valid question. We have the right to her opinion on it. When he committed adultery in such an institution as it was, we the American people have EVERY right to ask that question. Unfortunately, Chelsea, your father made it our business. Hill sets a bad example for all of the young women in America, by not only letting her husband do something like that to her (more than once I'm sure), but she is completely inconstent and she lies. She attacks her rivals. She is emotionally unstable (see crying in NH primary, which was actually at a restaraunt right down the street from my house, and see reactions when she is on the defense.) You people make me sick. You may as well be voting for HW for a third term. |
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| Chris |
March 26th, 2008 1:09 pm ET I find it funny that Mr. Bernstein included so many quotes from his book. This was the equivalent of a free advertisement for him. I'm also tired of the media's bashing of Hillary, while they fawn over Obama. I can't stomach Fox News and their conservative spin, but over the past several months I've found CNN's drooling lovefest for all things Obama just as disgusting. |
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| Astounded democrat |
March 26th, 2008 1:09 pm ET I am baffled by all the outcry about the media favoring Obama. I just don't see it. Also, why should what one thinks about Obama, good, bad or indifferent, have anything to do with one's assessment of Hillary Clinton's honesty? Bernstein's piece does a nice job of placing the Bosnia incident within a persistent pattern of behavior that makes many of us uncomfortible voting for H. Clinton. I think she has done some good things. I think her position on many issues is solid. But I don't think I can trust her to tell the truth. After 8 years of secret wire taps, secret prisons, secret energy meetings, and secret e-mails, don't we have a right to say that we want our next president to be someone is at least mostly honest and transparent? |
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| Mara |
March 26th, 2008 1:09 pm ET The Clintons lie when they need to, when they do not need to and when their lips are moving. |
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| drzoon |
March 26th, 2008 1:09 pm ET do we want ANOTHER LIAR in the White House? if you do.. then vote HRC. as anyone who has followed HRC since the early 90's can tell you... she just is uncomfortable with the truth. ME? i think there has to be a better woman out there to break the political glass ceiling than this over inflated lying sack of cow dung. Her experience? What experience? |
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| Tom Bruce |
March 26th, 2008 1:10 pm ET Hillary promises to stop lying the day we elect her President. Scout's honor. If you've got a couple of hours, to an Internet (thank you, Al Gore) search for "Lies told by Hillary Clinton." There's a l ot of material there. She's as bad as hubby "I did not have sex with that woman" Bill. Run, Chelsea, as far and as fast as you can before you catch Clintonitis, too. |
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| Sean |
March 26th, 2008 1:10 pm ET Cindy, It matters, as you put it, because she is using the Bosnia trip as a prime example of how she is ready to lead. If that example, one of the glowing examples of her leadership, is the best she has to offer, then it becomes a major issue of the campaign. The issues have been directed by her refusal to acknowledge anyone, other than herself and Sen. McCain, as being ready to lead. This begs to differ... |
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| w lee |
March 26th, 2008 1:10 pm ET mistruths and embellishing stories got the US into Iraq...come on folks...H Clinton, well, both the clintons lie...who wants another liar for president? |
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| Josh |
March 26th, 2008 1:10 pm ET Why can't we all agree that she is a lier!! If some buddy was telling that story and you saw a news story completely different, what would you call him. Thats right, a lier. It is that easy. |
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| Sue in Raleigh |
March 26th, 2008 1:10 pm ET Who cares what Bernstein says! He might have been relevant in the 70's when, along with his partner, he broke the Watergate scandal. yawn, ho hum...so long ago. He and his thoughts are no longer relevant. Hillary Rocks!! |
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| Smarter than the Clinton Supporters |
March 26th, 2008 1:10 pm ET Did you all see the lecture from Chelsea? A student asked if she thinks Monica Lewinsky hurt her mother's reputation and just like her mother, she gave some BS and then said, "I don't think that's any of your busniess." For those who want to congradulate her on her response, shame on you. That is a valid question. We have the right to her opinion on it. When he committed adultery in such an institution as it was, we the American people have EVERY right to ask that question. Unfortunately, Chelsea, your father made it our business. Hill sets a bad example for all of the young women in America, by not only letting her husband do something like that to her (more than once I'm sure), but she is completely inconstent and she lies. She attacks her rivals. She is emotionally unstable (see crying in NH primary, which was actually at a restaraunt right down the street from my house, and see reactions when she is on the defense.) You people make me sick. You may as well be voting for W for a third term. |
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| James Baker |
March 26th, 2008 1:10 pm ET Why is everyone using the word "misstatement" instead of the word "lie"? And why do some people wonder if if makes any difference that their preferred candidate for the highest office in the land LIES about their experiences and qualifications for public office? Lies on resumes get people fired. Lies in court get people charged with perjury. Lies in relationships lead to divorce. Lies on the campaign trail should lead to elimination. We've had eight years of a president who lied to us about everything. Think people! |
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| RRE |
March 26th, 2008 1:10 pm ET "The Truth will set you free." This should include George Bush's war on Iraq, Cheney's Halliburton' fiasco, Obama's Resko dealings, Spitzer's paid sex dealings, Detroit's Mayor's affair, O.J.'s murder.....these compared to Hillary's misspoken words ..give me a break. The Bosnia trip was a successful trip. Thank you Hillary. |
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| john brauer |
March 26th, 2008 1:10 pm ET At least Hillary didn't spend 20 years listening to Rev. Wright condemn the WHITE MAN! She also doesn't hang with Louis Farrankam. Obama is the biggest sniper in this campaign. He has the people or had the people thinking he is the man for the White House. That's not going to happen. Of course he didn't hear the pastor make those comments about this country or the white man, because he was in the Mosque with his wife and kids. Go Hillary!!! |
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| Gary Lumsden |
March 26th, 2008 1:11 pm ET Everyday I try to imagine the United States without a Clinton in power. |
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| rebra r stevens |
March 26th, 2008 1:11 pm ET Every body...please STOP!!! Ask Hillary why she didn't leave Bill after being so pubicly humiliated with his extramarital affairs, that is a breach that most peopl would find unforgiveable. But I am going to give Hillary the benefit of the doubt and that is that her 20+ years of a relationship with him could not be overshadwed by his horrible acts of betrayal. |
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| Laura Herold |
March 26th, 2008 1:11 pm ET We Obama backers want some form of DIGNITY brought back to our country....I want to be able to respect my President and believe in his ability to take care of the country. Get off REV WRIGHT all ready. Nobody asks Hillary about PETER PAUL or VINCE FOSTER or some of the others they used in their 8 years of White House soap opera. Why does anyone want this back in their lives? I don't get it. Hillary should be gone...we need a dramatic change of politics and major attitudes. Haven't you all suffered enough under Bush? Don't you want these propaganda politicians gone!? Watch the news and youtube because Hillary plays the game well...all the little tricks of what to say and how to say it. MARK PENN did it the same exact way with BILL. WAKE UP REMAINING STATES...it's your turn next to save a nation from the CLINTONS. |
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| Truth Teller |
March 26th, 2008 1:11 pm ET Clinton supporters – I respect you for supporting her, but don't try to excuse this. Excusing lying is a prime way to act as an "enabler" for bad behavior. She didn't misspeak, she didn't have trouble with her recollection. This was a lie, plain and simple. You can and must accept that. Once you do, then decide whether it affects your support for her. If the answer is no, then support her and move on. But stop trying to make this "OK" – it isn't. |
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| Jonathan Aid |
March 26th, 2008 1:11 pm ET Hillary's misrecollections matter. She told this same flawed story several times; she misremembered the same exact details and probably would have gone on telling the same truth-challenged story if she hadn't been caught. This makes me question her judgment, experience, and truthfullness. All things that are crucial in a good president. The more I learn about Senator Clinton the more I realize her experience in the White House was visiting classrooms, speaking at woman's clubs and hosting State Dinners. |
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| Donald Sutton |
March 26th, 2008 1:11 pm ET The Clinton's are crooks and liars, we don't need them. Have they ever explained the pardons? Let's see those tax returns. |
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| Ken E. |
March 26th, 2008 1:11 pm ET Why is this writer trying to defend Hillary?! Once more she has come out and told what my grandparents would call a bold face lie. Yet this writer tries to down play this by talking about her protectiveness of herself, and the way she always holds back from the whole truth. Buy calling this another instance of "faulty recollection", he spins a wonderful set of platitudes that encourages the public to but in to this whole "misspoke" pile of bull and forgive her. Here is the WHOLE TRUTH. She lied. How can someone equate a simple airplane landing where they meet with a girl on the tarmac to hear a poem, to her tale of a cork screw flight path to land, putting on gear in the airplane as it was taking sniper fire, and then rushing to base huddled across the tarmac. That is NOT someone mis-speaking. Refering the to the girl as a boy would be a misspeak. Saying she was on the flight with Tupac instead of Sinbad would be a misspeak. But the whole element of sniper fire and protective gear and running huddled (despite the photographic evidence to show this is far, far, far from the truth). It was not "Misspoke". It was a lie. Think of it in this fashion. Either Hillary is lying through her teeth in order to boost her image to the voters. Or, more frightening, she really remembers events in the manner she spoke of. For both cases, she has just proven she is unfit for ANY political office in this country. |
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| Brian |
March 26th, 2008 1:11 pm ET Is this REALLY newsworthy?? Big deal, she embellished some details of an overseas trip into a dangerous, war-torn nation. The IMPORTANT item is that she was there and she had a purpose. I find it ironic that the news outlet has communicated her miniscule and isolated alteration of the environment (which is absolutely irrelevant to anything in this election) with such transperancy and chooses to leave us all guessing what her foreign policy experience looks like in it's entirety stacked up to her opponents. This type of news has a place in the election...and it's certainly not on the front page. |
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| Bob |
March 26th, 2008 1:11 pm ET The media is making too much punditry (as usual) of this story, and the video should've been checked long ago to confirm stump speech details. In the real world, when a person claims to do something they never experienced (in a speech, resume, etc), we call this type of conduct LYING and UNETHICAL. It's an Obama Nation. |
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| Max |
March 26th, 2008 1:11 pm ET Finally, HER lies are out there... stil more to come.. How can anyone vote for such durty person? Max |
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| mary OK |
March 26th, 2008 1:11 pm ET I think both of the candidates have problems with embellisments of their record or down right lies. You all know you have seen them both doing it. I count three for Obama and three for Hillary that I can personally enumerate – in just this campaign. I've read so many accounts of how incidents in Barack's books are exagerated, I've lost count. I also have read that Barack's legistlative record has been created for him in the IL Senate. His name was put on legislaton that others spent years working on. This was done in preparation for his run for the US Senate. The earmarks he requested for Illinois were in payment of that debt. Another intersting thing I read today is about Obama's tax returns. He used to check the box about adding $3 for public financing of elections He quit doing. He hasn't added the additional money to at least his last two tax returns. Wonder why he no longer wants to fund his competion? Anyway, Ever since I read that Carl Bernstein had expressed disgust at Hillary's "thick ankles.", I wrote him off as any kind of objective commentator on Hillary Clinton. |
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| Kevin |
March 26th, 2008 1:11 pm ET Isn't the whole point of this election to get rid of megalomanic politicans that have no trouble lying to the public so that they can get their way? That's what we've had in office for the last eight years, and look at where that's brought us to. Running for the presidency ought to be about what's good for the country, not about personal ambitions. Hillary supporters need to wake up and have a clear look at what she's doing to our chances of getting rid of the dysfunctional and don't give-a-crap-about-anyone-but-the-rich Republican administration that we've got, otherwise we're headed for more years of the same policies. |
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| Barry |
March 26th, 2008 1:11 pm ET Yes Hillary exaggerated, and yes she has a history of doing this, as do most polticians, but have we forgotten so soon that Obama lied about never hearing his Pastour speaking hate sermons, or his email to the Canadian government after his statement on Nafta, not to mention his exaggerartion on a bill he wrote for Nuclear energy. I would rather Hillary who embelished a little on Bosnia than a racist liar who attends a church that in my opinion is the Black equivalent to the KKK |
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| Saul |
March 26th, 2008 1:12 pm ET If Jeb bush weren't govener of FLA in 2000, half of what we are fighting about wouldn't even be an issue. You all can figure out the rest from there. |
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| Tracie |
March 26th, 2008 1:12 pm ET I don't care who you are, but if you were actually dodging sniper fire you would definetely remember that. It's not like it would happen every day. Hillary is trying to make her life sound more exiciting, experienced, etc. It reminds me of her husband Bill and the Monica thing. He kept on and on about how he never, ever did anything wrong.....until confronted with DNA on her dress, then he couldn't hide it anymore and finally fessed up. I guess the Clinton legacy sould be "Lie you butt off to make yourself look good until you're caught at it". |
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| Dave |
March 26th, 2008 1:12 pm ET Hillery for president, what a joke. |
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| G. Otto |
March 26th, 2008 1:12 pm ET The biggest difference between Mrs. Clinton's "misspeak" and Mr. Obama's association with Rev. Wright are that she actually said those things. For those of us who lump Obama in the same group with Clinton, I urge you to check the facts before assuming too much. It's not even close to enough to use mere seconds of video footage from literally thousands of hours of sermons for ammunition. |
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| Tara Finch |
March 26th, 2008 1:12 pm ET Karl Bernstein is doing nothing more (or less) than giving his same, old, tired (much like himself) opinion .. NOT a factual news piece. This is an opinion article from a man who has made a living of off bashing Hillary. It's very obvious that Karl is intimidated by Senator Clinton, as he should be, she's far more intelligent and accomplished than he. Mr. Bernstein is what, about 200 years old? Nobody is really interested in hearing him spew his Hillary hate. Shouldn't he be in a nursing home? GO HILLARY!!!!!!!!! ALL THE WAY TO THE WHITE HOUSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| Living in the U.S.A. |
March 26th, 2008 1:12 pm ET Hillary answering the 3:00am call. Phone Rings: BRRRRRRRRIIIIGGGGGGGGGGG You answer: HELLO Hillary: This is Daffy Duck calling to let you know we are at war. You: Who is this Hillary: Oh I'm sorry I thought I was calling Disney World We don't need people who are forgetful. It would be a mess. |
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| Audrey |
March 26th, 2008 1:12 pm ET Carl, I attended your talk on Hillary at the 92nd St. Y a few months ago, and frankly doubted your claim that "A Woman in Charge" was written without bias. On my way home that evening, I stopped at Barnes and Noble to pick up a copy, began reading, and couldn't put it down. I went into your book a Hillary supporter, and came out a Hillary supporter, pleased to discover that you had, indeed, written without bias on "the good, the bad and the ugly." I've followed your commentary on CNN, and your ongoing assertion that the thing to watch in this Democratic bloodbath is the manner in which each candidate runs their campaign. Although I voted for Hillary in the NY State primary, and have had heated arguments with my husband (a Hillary loather and an Obama supporter), I have to say that I am increasingly disappointed with her campaign for all the reasons you stated in your CNN.com article. Maureen Dowd's NY Times column today raised the chilling hypothesis that Hillary would rather have McCain win the election if she is not the 2008 nominee, so that she could run again in 2012. A few weeks ago I would have read Dowd (a Clinton basher par excellence) with smoke coming out of my ears. Today, however, I sadly shook my head and thought, "This rings true...." |
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| Shane |
March 26th, 2008 1:12 pm ET Bernstein's comments are just another example of previous Clinton advisors/biographers/colleagues finally seeing the light after they get out from under the Clinton tent. See also: Bill Richardson, Dick Morris |
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| Tn Guy |
March 26th, 2008 1:12 pm ET Whats the big deal she is only a presidential nominey who happens to be a life long habitual liar. To the avg person being shot and landing in a hostile enviroment while running for cover would be burned into their mind. But to a habitual liar it is another day at the office. |
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| Sam Texas |
March 26th, 2008 1:12 pm ET Hellary, Billary, Liary. This woman is not only power hungry but also a maniac. She is probably bipolar or something. She might wake up at 3AM and unleash nuclear weapons on Russia or China for sniping at her in her dream! |
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| Harold |
March 26th, 2008 1:12 pm ET This does bring up some serious issues. How do you know where she really stands on any issue? NAFTA? The economy? Health care? Without any shred of credibility, an administration will get nothing done. At this point a large part of the Democratic party seems to be questioning her candidacy as well. This coupled with her nihilistic approach, seems to sum up why she should not be the candidate for president of the United States. Too many doubts to be comfortable with a "3 AM phone call" if you will. |
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| Pierre |
March 26th, 2008 1:12 pm ET Some here are saying that Hillary's [misstatements, embellishments, lies, whatever] as not mattering because she did not actually have any effect on the Bosnian conflict as First Lady. So, um, doesn't that torpedo the whole "experience" argument? I have visited quite a few countries in my day (including one in the midst of a war in a neighboring country) but, of course, my visits also didn't have any effect. Does that mean I'm just as qualified to be prez as Hillary? |
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| Bummed Voter |
March 26th, 2008 1:12 pm ET This bickering back and forth between Obama and HRC supporters is really quite amusing. Both of them can quibble about who's best qualified or has the best chance to win, but the bottom line is that neither one of them have what it takes to unify the country and get us going in the right direction. Both are polarizing figures right now and will continue to be. Obama's got more hot air than Texas and Hillary has a vivid imagination. ... I wish we had another choice, but McCain has a record of getting things done and is much smarter than Bushy boy. (reluctantly) McCain '08 |
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| brian |
March 26th, 2008 1:13 pm ET Allxdreamer, you may hate Obama (and clearly muslims), but at least get your facts right before you spew your hatred. Obama was NEVER and HAS never been a muslim. Farrakhan chose to endorse Obama on his own, Obama did not seek it. Hillary asked him to denounce his endorsement, which Obama did. Allxdreamer, your lack of intelligence is shown by the fact that you cant spell Kenyan .. what is a Kenyon ritual outfit? It is Kenyan and if you had choosen to read up on your facts instead of displaying your ignorance, you would know there is no such thing as a Kenyan (or as you spell it Kenyon) ritual outift. The outfit was specific to an area of Kenya that Obama was visiting and the leaders in that area chose to dress him in their traditional clothes. This is a very common tradition when diginitaries visit foreign countries and if you did your research, you will find many examples of Bill, Hillary, Bush etc. all adoning traditional outfits of the regions they are visiting. It is unbelievable CNN gives such idiots as Allxdreamer a forum to display their ignorance without checking the facts. |
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| wildweasel |
March 26th, 2008 1:13 pm ET one thing i learned talking to people who have been in combat, is that you NEVER forget when where and how you came under fire – whether one engagement, or 50. each leaves a distinct indelible impression in your memory that cannot by synthesized. it can only be embellished. and if it doesn't exist, it can only be made up fairy tales. |
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| Chris K | ||

