Comments on: Gergen: How Hillary grabs the nomination

By: Tuoyo baltimore

Tuoyo baltimore — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 23:16:15 +0000

I am sick of this Primary to hell with the DNC at this point !

By: Jeff

Jeff — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 23:10:27 +0000

Once again the republicans stole the democratic vote in Florida. There is noway Obama will win in Fla. That is a swing state and the democratic party DNC in particular has screwed up.

And if our voice in not heard in Fla. we will remember come November. And elect Bush Jr. (McCain).

By: Mary

Mary — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 23:08:45 +0000

How can any of you people say that you will vote for McCain because you don't like some part of the Clinton/Obama selection process?!? Have you ever heard the expression "cutting off your nose to spite your face?" You sound like a bunch of crybabies who think only of yourselves and not the future of this country. Anything you do to help elect McCain would just continue the total disaster of the last 8 years. Can your conscience live with that? Face the fact that this country needs a Democratic president and Congress to even begin to right the wrongs of the Bush administration, and do what needs to be done!!

By: Dan in Salem

Dan in Salem — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 23:06:28 +0000

David, thanks for your insights here. I am amazed at the vitrolic attacks of several of your responders toward both Senator Obama and Senator Clinton. Yes I fear the Democratic party has the potential of imploding -as it did in 1968 with its candidates feeding upon and destroying each other. The real issue with both Florida and Michigan should not be foisted on the two Senators but with an incredibly inept DNC leadership. It is that leadership that should be aggressive brokering a workable solution here. The fact that it appears to have neither the will nor the ability to do so makes it seem all to much like another Howard Dean Iowa meltdown.

By: Deirdre Glascoe, Bowie, MD

Deirdre Glascoe, Bowie, MD — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 23:06:08 +0000

I think people who criticize Obama and Rev. Wright are hypocrites. I think if we took 2 of minutes out of anyone's life where they were cursing and degrading others, they would probably look as monsterous as Rev. Wright. Ohh.. is threre anyone claiming that they are so righteous that they never cursed or degraded others in their life?... Yeah!!! He who lives without sin cast the first stone ... and I guarantee that the wind will catch the stone and fling it right back at ya! .

By: Mary

Mary — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 23:03:31 +0000

I see....we are to not judge Obama for what his pastor has said or done yet, we are to judge Clinton for what her husband has said and done. Sounds like a double standard to me but then, that seems to be par for the course with the Obama campaign. The seemed to learn their leader's teachings well.

By: Jon

Jon — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 23:02:36 +0000

Attn Michigan and Florida:

Barack Obama said it should be up to the people to decide who will be the Democratic Presidential nominee. Barack Obama says every vote should count.

But, apparently, he only wants votes that are in his favor to count. Do you hear Hillary Clinton crying and saying that the states Obama won shouldn't count? No.

Barack Obama claims Hillary's sudden interest in Michigan and Florida is just politics. Well, considering Hillary IS a politician, are you guys as shocked as I am that she's...*gasp*...polickiting. But, correct me if I'm wrong, isn't his saying that her interest is politics also....jeez...politics?

Let's call apples apples, and oranges oranges. They're both politicians, but at least Hillary's willing to admit she's a politician. Barack wants you to think he's not a politician, but some sort of deliverer of truth and peace. Get real, Barack.

By: Cheryl, Upstate, NY

Cheryl, Upstate, NY — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 23:02:16 +0000

David,
Hillary Clinton would not be pushing for a do-over if the shoe was on the other foot. If she was ahead in pledged delegates, she would not want the do-over. It simply amazes me what a hypocrite she is. She is trying to place the Blame on Obama so that she can try and cause a negative response toward him. Shame on you Hillary Clinton!!
This is one New Yorker that would never support you. It is too bad the rest of the country does not know how little you have done to help Upstate NY.
NYC gets all her help and the hell with upstate.
Wake up America if you’re not from money Hillary will do nothing for you!
PS:
I sincerely think it is a tragedy that people simple place blame on Barack Obama for things his pastor said.
OBAMA 08

By: George Stewart

George Stewart — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 23:00:43 +0000

If this country that I love has any chance of regaining the stature it once held across the world the only logical solution is stop pandering to "political correctness" where Obama is quick to yell racist with any one who remotely disagrees with his views. Experience in a leader matters much more than a charasmatic speech. If the DNC has any sense of fairness and decency for the democratic process they'll allow the voices of voters in Florida and Michigan to be heard.
I agre with Anna who said, it is too sad the American public has been hoodwinked and bamboosled by Obama "and it is frightening the say the least that Obama voters can't see the forest for the trees. Experience and leadership matter and Hillary is the only reasonable answer.

By: Alex

Alex — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 23:00:04 +0000

Mischelle,

Your statement:
"BUT THAT is the point of having the super delegates in the first place, regular folks cannot decide what is best for the party (obviously) so the system of knowledgeable, cool- headed, and more REASONABLE super-duper delegates was created."

Is completely misinformed. What is the point of voting if a super-delegate is going to override your choice? The point of having INDIVIDUALS vote is that INDIVIDUAL CITIZENS choose the nominee. The Super-delegate system is awful. Nominations should be based on who has the most delegates , more percentage of the popular vote, etc.

It is appalling to me that you think we should be picking a nominee based on what is "best for the party", rather what is best for the country. I am 20 years old, and I am already tired of the same old politicians blabbering on day after day about who said what, and who flip-flops, etc. Hilary and McCain are the same old politicians. If Hilary is elected president, then the SAME TWO families will "rule" America for 24 years (Clinton, Bush, 1988-2012). Obama represents something new, and you cannot argue that he is very different (in a good way) from Clinton and McCain.

Obama '08!

By: Patrick B. Lee

Patrick B. Lee — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 22:58:24 +0000

I just can't fathom the furor over Barrack Obama'spastor...Did he say some ugly things...yes. However there are many clergy who have
said hateful things about homosexuals, Arabs, and even inter-racial
relationships. I think the American public should practice what they
preach and drop the condemnation of Senator Obama. If I remember
correctly Rush Limbaugh once referred to Native American Indians
as "Savages". There is plenty of hate and racism to go around!!

I am white as well as 1/4 Indian. So I can understand the pastors
resentment in relation to rich white powerful people. And I believe that
there are even white people who are not rich and powerful who can
relate to his comments. If I disassociated myself with every person
who ever made a disparaging remark in my presence, I would not have been able to function in this world, and I believe that Obama is
in the same boat as anyone.

Personally I believe that the furor is really the machinations of a news media influenced,by the very same elite mostly white class.
What really is disturbing to me is blatant bigotry by either whites
or blacks or whatever ethnic group, that will not vote a particular
way based on the color of skin or culture.

My personal choice, though I know that it probably won't influence anyone, is Barrack Obama...at least with him you know you won't be
receiving the old B.S. status quo. I think that Senator Obama is the
most sincere candidate of the bunch. Clinton and McCain are neck
deep in "Beltway Manure".

I can "See Through" Hillary Clinton like a freshly cleaned window pane...Misinformation is her middle name and she had an excellent teacher in her husband.

By: roxana

roxana — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 22:58:21 +0000

I am a Florida democratic voter. If Senator Obama wins the nomination,with his "efforts" to resolve the primary's results in my state, why should my vote be casted for him? Florida votes don't count, right?

By: Test Depth

Test Depth — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 22:57:03 +0000

Clinton or Obama, as they used to say, "Those are some slim pickens!"

By: Jamil

Jamil — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 22:55:33 +0000

To all the Hillary supporters who say Hillary is the stronger general election candidate:

How can she be thought of as strong when she completely blew so many primaries and caucuses? And let's not forget that she started out with a 21 point lead over Obama in the polls.

By: LH Dallas

LH Dallas — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 22:54:21 +0000

Here's one more way Hillary grabs the nomination:

We continue to print her lies and distortions as truths, watch as perceived momentum flow in her direction, which should cause voter apathy and viola! She wins. Aren't we lucky to have a candidate who distorts her way into the presidency – again.

Anyone doubting that? She is successfuly blaming the MI and FL re-vote mishaps on Obama. Like it was his fault? duh. And, we allow her voice to be printed...

By: Rey in Michigan

Rey in Michigan — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 22:53:03 +0000

I understand the concept of spin that politicians or the media may have on a topic. However as much News I watch, and all the "cataclysmic" ruin of our democracy that will occur with Michigan and Florida not counting in a democratic primary... Here are some points, and quite simple:

The DNC warned Florida and Michigan about their delegates not being seated; but they had their primaries, acknowledging this consequences.

All of a sudden, it becomes a disenfranchising... Why does it seem that no one is discussing the fact that the rules were broken?

By: lipsrc699

lipsrc699 — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 22:50:38 +0000

Hillary is going to grab the election like Lewis & Clark grabbed land, like our forefathers grabbed Georgia which led to "the trail of tears", the way that California was taken from the real Californians, she is going to steal it of course!!!

By: CB

CB — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 22:48:33 +0000

Hillary is a spoiled sport. She should get a emmy for her don't cry for argentina re-mix, " Please cry for Florida and Michigan". The Clinton's are only running hard because they have favors to repay once she gets in office. Obama is no Rev. Wright, just like Hillary is no former president Bill Clinton! Stop provoking and invoking racial mess into the elections. If Hillary grabs the nomination you can best believe it will be by HOOK or CROOK!

By: LH Dallas

LH Dallas — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 22:47:20 +0000

William,
Touche!
Why don't people understand what is happening? We had so much enthusiasm for this election. Hillary has successfully crushed it, destroyed it and turned it into a war zone. Funny thing is, she can't even win. We are allowing her to continue and destroy the party's chances of success. It's sad to watch.

By: David D Kollie

David D Kollie — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 22:45:40 +0000

AC,
Hillary says that she is ready from day one to lead this country. Where was she from day one when the DNC suppended those two states because of their violations.

Why didn't she speak on their behalf from day one before the primaries began that the voices of those people should be heard regardless of their violations?

Is it becuase of numbers and the expectation to win the nomination that she is now speaking for those states several days and months after the onset of the primaries?
It sounds fishy to me.
The people of those states might not want to vote for Obama but are they really buying what Hillary is saying on their behalf. Just a thought.